[626] A Pick Proof Master Lock? ALMOST! • [626] A Pick Proof Mas...
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@freshjnew3 жыл бұрын
"MasterLock is darned close to producing a lock that I can't pick open" This statement carries heft.
@lockhurst76806 жыл бұрын
I've owned this lock for over a year and have tried picking it several times, unaware of the side bar. I'll be able to get it now. Thanks for the great bit of knowledge.
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
Good luck with it!
@bryansullo97984 жыл бұрын
@lockhurst, how'd you do?
@smeipalmu59703 жыл бұрын
How did you do?
@iyeetsecurity9222 жыл бұрын
Turns out it wasn't _his_ lock he was trying so hard to pick opened, and was finally caught by the owner. A one sided gun fight ensued and he was permanently dealt with.
@scrappy07292 жыл бұрын
@@iyeetsecurity922 It is the only answer.
@forrestmorgan32225 жыл бұрын
I have been picking locks for 40 years, and am blown away by what Lock Lawyer does. He has extra feeling in his fingers, a gift from God. MOST will Never ever come anywhere near him, no matter how much practice.! So be happy at your plateau !!
@Magisktification5 жыл бұрын
So Masterlock made a lock that you can steal and reuse with your own keys 😅
@TheNuclearBolton4 жыл бұрын
It would be extremely tedious having to apply torque on the keyway and simultaneously holding the factory tool to reset the key. If you were that experienced in lock picking, you wouldn’t even want that trash core for yourself other than for resale value.
@Herberthishful3 жыл бұрын
Stonks
@stucurtis51023 жыл бұрын
Once its unlocked it looks like you simply rekey it as normal
@WineScrounger6 жыл бұрын
I love the rekeying mechanism though, it’s incredibly clever.
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
It is... the reprogramable sidebar is clever.
@rogueace98976 жыл бұрын
Master lock: "ha! We have finally gotten him!" Lpl: all we need to do is shove this thing in here and this lock becomes easy" Master lock: "Mo!#$&F&#%$@"
@vector69775 жыл бұрын
I read this in Morty's voice.
@acklan35 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@sadmanh05 жыл бұрын
it's still a pretty good lock since your average lockpick won't know the specific weakness
@BansheeResearch5 жыл бұрын
Master lock: (rages in AGK)
@Dakshohri4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@ronpalmer13716 жыл бұрын
@5.10.........I can just imagine the guys at Master Lock (who must watch your videos) bury their heads in their hands and weep.
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@who45355 жыл бұрын
lolololol i bet they do too
@brucebuckley2855 жыл бұрын
When the guys at master lock watch his videos, I doubt they are weeping. Probably sound more like a bunch of drunken sailors on a rampage. LAMO
@PapaTrump5 жыл бұрын
They don’t care about it being picked, out of every break in maybe 1 out of 1000 it’s due to it being picked. edit: fixed spelling error of word maybe.
@fulkthered5 жыл бұрын
Video after video keep showing the people at Master Lock they make junk.The only reason they would bury their heads in their hands is because they like to smell their own farts.
@polygoncrazy6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this channel, i can entirely blame my start into the world of picking on you. I hope you continue making vids, they have been incredibly helpful.
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
Lol... good luck with your new addiction.
@JaWz66 жыл бұрын
I tried so hard And got so far But in the end It doesn't even matter
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Dakshohri4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@powerpug9644 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@andymorin91634 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@silentmajority85184 жыл бұрын
I Love that song!
@lisainAZ6 жыл бұрын
My LOCKPICKING kit arrived today .. thanks for the inspiration
@Biped6 жыл бұрын
If you're anything like me it won't stay the only one :)
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the club. Good luck wrangling what will soon be your new addiction. 😈
@lisainAZ6 жыл бұрын
Ebumbaya ' I am sure!! Any recommendations to try?
@lisainAZ6 жыл бұрын
LockPickingLawyer yes and thanks to you I am prepared
@Biped6 жыл бұрын
Uhmm... obviously it's a personal thing but I started with a cheap one-of-everything kind of kit from china but soon found that I rarely use anything besides the short hook. Sometimes a medium one, sometimes a half diamond. It's cool to have the rest lying around and play with it but once you know a little bit what works for you and you're not too harsh on your picks anymore (we all abuse them in the beginning :) ), I would go for a little thinner steel, a little higher quality and small kits or even single picks. I recently got a few things from sparrows which seem really quite nice but it's a bit pricey imo. As long as you're having fun and are not breaking your bank it's all good :D
@jamesg13676 жыл бұрын
Doesn't it figure than an actually pretty good Master lock would be unobtainium!
@dancindan844 жыл бұрын
"Masterlock is very close with these to making a lock that I can't pick." *Proceeds to pick the lock in under a minute*
@johncrowerdoe55274 жыл бұрын
Close but no cigar.
@JimmieDoolittle32 жыл бұрын
Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades
@davidissel79805 жыл бұрын
I thought this lock looked interesting... but, a lot of the reviews I'm finding online say the lock fails fairly quickly in the wild--fails to open with proper key. Plus, this lock has been discontinued by Master... so that's probably why it is hard to find. This really seems a shame as everyone loves the ability to key this to a kwikset key. My search for a good lock continues...
@charlesrich39753 жыл бұрын
Massive difference between the model 530 and 532!! I have a 530 that opens up to me like a drunken prom date and I've only been picking for 2 weeks.
@mysss295 жыл бұрын
Hmm, it's almost as if there was some kind of drill and pick protection plate in the design that got deleted before manufacture. : )
@AlbertLebel6 жыл бұрын
This lock is "almost" a great lock. If they address those failures this could be very hard to pick
@silasmayes79545 жыл бұрын
You have to know it's there and whats the likelihood of that.
@niccatipay4 жыл бұрын
They would pay him not to review their locks.
@KTMcaptain4 жыл бұрын
Silas Mayes exactly. Best thing master lock can do is to hide model numbers to prevent people from researching various attack methods.
@casperswift4 жыл бұрын
LPL should work for a lock company honestly his ideas are some of the best, His super logical way of thinking could really design some great locks, I'm always amazed by the bypasses and picks he's able to do... I wish my mind worked like his..
@gotchurebeacons-gaming90235 жыл бұрын
Well, I’m a puzzle solver guy...and I can’t get enough of these episodes. My favorite new pastime. This episode makes me wanna ask, “Why aren’t the lock companies contracting with you to help design a pick-proof lock?” It sounds like you’d be a natural consultant for these guys...and your input and the execution of your ideas would significantly increase the market value of their product. (I hear a few “cha-chings” when I say that)
@diakmef2 жыл бұрын
I guess if more locks get destroyed and picked it means you need to buy another lock
@ElectricalExistence6 жыл бұрын
I picked my first lock the other day using what I learned here, it was my dads favorite master lock bar style lock, it took me about 5 mins to get it the first time, then less than 1 min the other 4 times I did it.
@lockhurst76806 жыл бұрын
Dr. Strangelove I remember when I picked my first lock, I kinda felt like James Bond haha. Happy picking.
@ElectricalExistence6 жыл бұрын
Lockhurst thanks!
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Be careful... it’s addictive!
@ElectricalExistence6 жыл бұрын
LockPickingLawyer I should be ok, I don't have a very addictive personality. Lol. Thanks for the reply.
@ElectricalExistence5 жыл бұрын
@Benjamin Ale well, honestly I haven't picked another lock since, my father has since died and my financial and personal priorities don't allow for things I enjoy often, I'm currently trying to save money to sue my step mother who won't even give me any of my father's ashes and is breaking the law as she is also refusing to give me the portion of his personal property allowed to me by state law.
@bellybuttonfishkisses6194 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Thank you! Helpful and informative as usual! I have a M532 that I use to secure my tools at job sites and love but it failed open last week... apparently the re-keying mechanism had somehow become activated and wouldn't allow the lock to stay closed, after running it through the re-keying procedure described in your video (using a paperclip lol and the original key) and it appears to be working correctly again! Thanks again!
@aarond235 жыл бұрын
Master Lock could hire this guy as a million dollar consultant and make their locks the best in the business
@Soandnb5 жыл бұрын
Why do that when clueless people will buy their locks anyways?
@kelvinyonger88855 жыл бұрын
@@Soandnb that's probably Master's main business model.
@kelvinyonger88855 жыл бұрын
Also that could drive the price up, and they cater to the average ignorant Joe, so it wouldn't be that useful to have lpl and he can't really praise other lock companies anymore in his vids.
@DonzLockz6 жыл бұрын
They need to hire you as a consultant. Great video as usual LPL.👍🏽😎
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
👍
@medes55975 жыл бұрын
Masterlock is weirdly hostile to locksport people. They hate the community, and won't work with them.
@JimmieDoolittle32 жыл бұрын
@@medes5597 that sounds awfully counterproductive.... most industries/companies pay people good at defeating/ruining/breaking/exploiting their products so they can learn and improve.....
@Frosty9016 жыл бұрын
Very clever attack buddy. Thanks for sharing. Hopefully Master sees this and the next generation of this design is improved upon.
@bitkarek6 жыл бұрын
they should pay you for testing it :)
@bdf27186 жыл бұрын
They should pay him for telling them what's wrong with it.
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
I charge for evaluations done at the prototype stage. At this point, master lock has spent tens maybe hundreds of thousands of dollars tooling up. They are not making any changes anytime soon.
@bitkarek6 жыл бұрын
fair enough... now i know :) anyway - keep up the good work with videos. I think i will get some picking toolset sometime soon (i wanted to start long time ago)
@bdf27186 жыл бұрын
+LockPickingLawyer If the parts are machined, CNCs can be reprogrammed. If they're stamped, the tooling wears out over time and must be replaced anyway. The actual cost of tooling changes may be lower than you estimate (or a lot higher than I estimate). Even if you're right and it's up in the hundreds of thousands, how many of these locks do they sell and how many more could they sell if they were a lot harder to pick? Only Master Lock have those figures. But the fact that this core addressed some of the flaws you found in its predecessor indicates they're willing to make improvements. However, they're probably not going to pay you for your advice. You've already said what's wrong, so all they have to do is figure out how to fix those problems. OTOH, if they'd asked you at the prototype stage they'd have been ahead of the game.
@RPRosen-ki2fk6 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the fix to the two biggest flaws could be only ... modifying the core retainer. A beefier part, that just overlaps the face of the core where you're inserting your tensioning tool. Only one part and no change to the assembly process.
@RyanInRio6 жыл бұрын
The construction of the bodies on those magnum locks are very tough. If some thief comes across this padlock even if they have some skill picking they won’t get this open. Very cool
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
Except for the bottom plate. I’ve become less and less impressed with them the more I test.
@RyanInRio6 жыл бұрын
LockPickingLawyer very true, I’m sure any attack focused on the bottom plate would tear this lock apart
@wolfpackflt6704 жыл бұрын
Ultimate troll: Find a person using this lock and pick it open. Then re-key the lock with some random key and lock it back up.
@stevee77744 жыл бұрын
Wolfpackflt670 - You have a very devious mind. I like it!🤣
@asmosisyup25574 жыл бұрын
based on the complaints about "not working" with the proper key, I'm pretty sure this already happens :D
@pmcKANE6 жыл бұрын
I love those screwdrivers. I've got a stack of maybe a dozen of them. £1 each... bargain. Also well done with the pick. That seems slightly more relevant!
@DrumDudeMatt6 жыл бұрын
Hopefully Master looks at videos online showing faults in their locks. I can understand not wanting to spend more money on a design already manufactured and sent to shelves, but good R&D should see faults before the lock is made and sent to the press. Bypasses come to mind more than the internals, as most thieves aren't concerned about actually picking a lock.
@medes55975 жыл бұрын
They don't. They hate the locksport community, they think all these lockpickers make their products look bad and thus refuse to engage with them.
@bdf27186 жыл бұрын
8:20 Damned with faint praise.
@danielroglich33094 жыл бұрын
Great video and picking as always brother and thanks for sharing it with us
@WineScrounger6 жыл бұрын
So close, Master Lock. So close. Oh well.
@RPRosen-ki2fk6 жыл бұрын
On the bright side, probably the, closest Master Lock has ... EVER been.
@JessicaFEREM5 жыл бұрын
I have a lock picking set, thanks for teaching me the laws of the lockpicking, lawyer
@JMLockpicking5 жыл бұрын
Jesus...your just on a whole another level dude.
@forrestmorgan32225 жыл бұрын
SO TRUE !! and Just like a Professional basketball player, you could practice all your life, and NEVER be that good.
@adamcady110 ай бұрын
So that’s a really bad ass lock. Impressive for sure
@irishdrunkass Жыл бұрын
5 years later....Masterlock did NOT protect that sidebar better...
@gkeyman5656 жыл бұрын
as i said before, reverse sidebars, protect the reset access, now if they can protect the "outside bar access", and the cover plate of course, you would have a real lock
@huxleypig696 жыл бұрын
Until the sidebar springs fail. Which they will.
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@brucebuckley2855 жыл бұрын
Great job LPL. You have inspired my new hobby. Keep up the good work !!!!
@richardd3752 жыл бұрын
Was just able to make a key for one while locked. Put pressure on sidebar with paperclip and decoded with lishi. Read the cuts 1 cut to high. once I cut them all down one extra cut turned perfect.
@arthurneddysmith4 жыл бұрын
6:48 Master Locks: "YES! We got the C clip right!"
@thesaint84006 жыл бұрын
Hey, have you ever tried cracking an ABUS defender bicycle wheel lock? They're really weird. Love the vids!
@hydra665 жыл бұрын
to be fair, this looks like a decent lock. Takes a reasonable amont of prior knowledge to actually pick this
@RolfMikkelson6 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to (re)program this lock to your own key after you pick it? Without using the correct key...
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@nobodydoesithalfasgoodasyou6 жыл бұрын
But that would be evil 🙊
@darrenjacobson74566 жыл бұрын
Couldn't they just make the front face of the core wider than the rest of the core? Then you couldn't get a tool down there right?
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
Yup... that’s the one aspect to it.
@clydeperrine29593 жыл бұрын
Given the construction of this Master Lock model is made a little tougher to pick for unexperienced and even some experienced chaps I would consider purchasing it.
@frezzy12316 жыл бұрын
Master should hire you to develop locks
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
I’m always happy to help... lots of ideas
@gereral1_jackofalltrades5 жыл бұрын
That 180 degree weird key lock was unpickable. I saw your video and its impossible to tension anything to pick as its protected by the tube.
@proberts344 жыл бұрын
I'm curious if Master Lock ever addressed the flaw that LPL pointed out in this video. Anyone know?
@forrestmorgan32225 жыл бұрын
Lock Lawyer is one out of 10,000. You could get the BEST tools, and Practice your whole life away, and NEVER be 1/4 as good. NEVER !!
@heathenbushcraft29816 жыл бұрын
Seems like a simpler solution would be to cut the top portion of the key away. The remaining bottom part of the key would deal with the sliders and would double as a tensioner. Its a wide open key way so there would still be plenty of room for a pick.
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
There are lots of options if you want to be destructive.
@jayraymond94603 жыл бұрын
The point in picking is that you don't use a key
@heathenbushcraft29813 жыл бұрын
@@jayraymond9460 The point in picking is to open the lock in a non destructive manner.
@jayraymond94603 жыл бұрын
@@heathenbushcraft2981 correct, when a key is not immediately available.
@heathenbushcraft29813 жыл бұрын
@@jayraymond9460 Are you high?
@lmars59336 жыл бұрын
They were so close but yet so far away lol.great video LPL,🌟⭐🌟🌟🌟⭐🌟⭐😎⭐🌟
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@RPRosen-ki2fk6 жыл бұрын
The balls in ML's court now. They could very easily impress me, or they can hold true to history. I AINT holding my breathe. By the way minutiae ... great word.
@BrianMDPhD6 жыл бұрын
Are you able to brute force turn the core on this lock because it is internally rekeyable like you can with the Kwikset "Smart" Key system?
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
I doubt it. This is a much more robust sidebar/slider design... also Kwikset fixed that on the gen3 locks.
@haileylvndrkittnz97215 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a lock pick set and managed to pick open most wafer cores and pin and tumbler cores and it’s become an obsession
@RDeathmark4 жыл бұрын
I feel this is overly harsh, Yes Master Lock could solve these problems, or at least the sidebar problem, however picking this lock open requires two details which you have to actually have knowledge of the internal mechanism of the lock in order to bypass and one of which requires a tool that you specifically made for doing the job even if you could fabricate that tool out in the wild it seems to me that this is a relatively secure lock for most purposes, the lock itself looks strong, the mechanism is good for the most part, but again I agree that it seems like it would be easy to solve this problem and so masterlock should do that unless there is some reason why they can't from a manufacturing standpoint
@Biela20086 жыл бұрын
Hi LPL! Can you do a test with eurolocks? The test is: Try to pick them with the key inserted and turned somewhat (30 to 45 degrees, this way they can't be pulled out from the lock) on the otherside! Can't wait for the results! :)
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
That depends on the cam mechanism. There are hundreds of variations.
@JimmieDoolittle32 жыл бұрын
LPL I swear you're the Bob Ross of B&E....
@effrus16 жыл бұрын
Very informative,, thank you. Keep up the good videos.
@Kraken10006 жыл бұрын
So close yet so far - if you have the skill.
@ThisGuyCJ6 жыл бұрын
Oh damn, looks tough, reminds me of how someone opened a kwikset Gen 3...
@knoblick75366 жыл бұрын
A cool masterlock. What's the world coming to.
@william211864 жыл бұрын
Whoa whoa whoa.... Hold on a sec.. It's not nice getting Master Lock hopes up... 😕😂
@coladict4 жыл бұрын
A MasterLock that impresses LPL? That's amazing!
@mrkultra16557 ай бұрын
So basically, it's a wafer lock, with a secondary locking mechanism.
@thorlancaster56416 жыл бұрын
Maybe you could dremel out a recess on the inside of the lock body and JB-weld a thin piece of metal to the side of the core. Then, you'd finally have an unpickable Master lock!
@grouchyed25616 жыл бұрын
LPL, what other padlocks (other than Master) would be compatible with this core? Is the tailpiece detachable? Such a nice core for 15 dollars!
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
None.
@pappaflammyboi57994 жыл бұрын
Master Lock: Ah Ha! We have finally foiled the lock pickers! LockPickingLawyer: Hold my beer.
@12gaugeCharlee6 жыл бұрын
Couldn't you overcome the side bar with a brute force attack? The materials the core are made of look very weak. I'd say that a small cold chisel wedged into the keyhole and a long wrench should be enough to overcome the side bar.
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
I doubt it. A chisel would cam out, and something that fits would break. The old smartkey locks were an anomaly.
@quintonwilson85653 жыл бұрын
Master, are you taking notes?
@ofekpearl6 жыл бұрын
So will the next Master Lock video be the final chapter for lock picking? :/
@JMSynthetics2 жыл бұрын
So if the core cover on the bottom of this lock was a little wider to cover the gap between the lock body and the core, the sim wouldn't be able to get in there making it pick proof?
@NicholasAarons5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Video & Work As Always LPL. Keep up the great work. Nick🧔🏽🔐🔒🔓. Lock Pick Nick.
@AuraMaster74 жыл бұрын
It's crazy that all it would take to make this lock extremely difficult to pick is to make the keyway plate radius just a bit larger... And they don't do it.
@TheMje196321 күн бұрын
I have 2 of these and wish Master Lock still made them
@gereral1_jackofalltrades5 жыл бұрын
They should hire you and pay you for testing!
@Sicsicka4 жыл бұрын
Let’s take it apart lol you mean put the last nail in the coffin 🤣
@kilewinfrey49176 жыл бұрын
Is this susceptible to the torquing method like the other re-keyable kwikset cores?
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
I highly doubt it. Reverse sidebar locks are very resistant to that type of attack.
@LogicBob6 жыл бұрын
Impressive work LPL!
@ArchieStiglitz4 жыл бұрын
When adding like 1 mm of metal would have made all the difference. it's like they want their locks to be pick-able. embarrassing.
@klj23825 жыл бұрын
They should pay you to test out a prototype lock to find any weaknesses before mass production.
@hightttech6 жыл бұрын
Nice video LPL
@RevMikeBlack Жыл бұрын
Since it uses a Kwikset keyway, will a Lishi KW1 work on it?
@macnutz42065 жыл бұрын
That did take you longer than other Master locks.
@shualang6 жыл бұрын
LPL u need slapping.... slapping for being so bloody good .. i myself have improved from your vids. thankyou very much sharing your talent
@thelockpickinglebowski6336 жыл бұрын
Which Peterson pick did you convert?
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
.015” half diamond.
@bradleysmall22305 жыл бұрын
if i fill the key hole with jb weld glue after an hour it is unpickable
@bradleysmall22305 жыл бұрын
I got to thinking in a devilish way about people locking doors and front gates and stuff . I thought a locked from gate like a wrought iron gate can be a blessing and a curse. Sure it can keep people out but a chain and another lock from a prankster can lock you in. Or epoxy glue can prevent you from opening the lock you used to keep thieves out....
@chemusvandergeek12095 жыл бұрын
Along with someone with LPL's lockpicking and analysis ability, that rekey function could be rough on someone.
@richscott20906 жыл бұрын
wow very impressive pic
@Knolraab2 жыл бұрын
I would really like to have one of those. However it seems like they are no longer sold. And definitely not in Europe :(
@notottomedic2 жыл бұрын
A pick resistant masterlock? Oh wait this isn't April fools
@dennyskerb49926 жыл бұрын
Genius
@HenrikNjgaard6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant...!
@bryancomeaux49612 жыл бұрын
now they have to call it master luck....
@skygh6 жыл бұрын
My guess is these locks wouldn't appreciate much heat. I bet it wouldn't last a minute. Value engineering strikes again.
@expertoflizardcorrugation39674 жыл бұрын
If a lock properly does this, they'd make a very nice lock Assuming it didn't have any major flaws, id consider throwing a decent amount of money at it. Basically what this says is "masterlock don't fuck it up a third time" Sorry for any errors. Cat is bein' lovey
@c2music26 жыл бұрын
i would like to see what locks he does recommend, for doors as well
@TechGorilla19876 жыл бұрын
I before the lock pops. Greetings, LPL!
@thumperlockpicking92696 жыл бұрын
In terms of picking locks,you really need to know what lock dose what,it's not as easy as shoving a pick in a lock and working it. Is it ?
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
You are correct. An encyclopedic knowledge of locks is a powerful tool, and is often a great substitute for, or supplement to, picking skill.
@FlergerBergitydersh3 жыл бұрын
Isn't there some kind of user mod someone could do to protect the sidebar, or is there just not enough room? The only reason I hold out hope is because there's at least enough room to shove your pick back there.
@ChubbyTheChecker2 жыл бұрын
Once you identify the exact type of core is in a lock, design a specialized tool to exploit that specific cores design weakness...picking this lock is remarkably easy lol.
@zini4GRUNT6 жыл бұрын
That could be awesome lock if ML made core covering plate to cover a bit bigger. What a shame.
@kitsunekid165 жыл бұрын
I like lock picking because it's like a puzzle that has tonnes of variations and is useful should you loose a key