6502 childhood dream come true (+VGA, Pi Pico, and Lode Runner too)

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Eric Badger

Eric Badger

Күн бұрын

It was always my dream since childhood to build a computer.
This is the story of my hobby activities over the past 2 years and the host of new skills picked up along the way.
The story starts with the Ben Eater 6502 kit: eater.net/6502
The ACIA datasheet is here: www.westerndes...
Source code for Wozmon can be found here: www.sbprojects...
Create your own version of Microsoft Basic for 6502:
www.pagetable....
Logisim is a free digital logic simulation tool:
sourceforge.ne...
KICAD download:
www.kicad.org/...
Retro Ports: Apple II Lode Runer for the Coco 3 Beta 2: retroports.blog...
Lode Runner - 1983 Apple ][ port to the Tandy CoCo 3 by Mark McDougall:
• Lode Runner - 1983 App...
​‪@DavePoo‬ Emulating a CPU in C++ (6502) videos: www.bing.com/v...
Klaus2m5's 6502 functional tests: github.com/Kla...
V. Hunter Adams VGA on Pico blog post: vanhunteradams...
ebadger/BadgerFrotz: Frotz Z-machine ported to a Raspberry PI Pico designed to run on the ebadger LodeRunner platform (github.com):
github.com/eba...
‪@GeorgeFoot‬ The World's Simplest TTL Video Card?
• The World's Simplest T...

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@zgolkar
@zgolkar 2 жыл бұрын
I lost count of how many times my jaw dropped watching this. That’s raw motivation! Wow.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ftsy98
@ftsy98 2 жыл бұрын
from never doing hardware to a 4 layer board? nice stuff dude
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt Жыл бұрын
Isn’t 4 layer the easy, lazy solution to distribute power? From the EEVLOG I learned that with through-hole routing is criss cross on the surfaces. Like in a breadboard: internal is vertical, then there is space for your horizontal colored wires.
@akamadman203
@akamadman203 Жыл бұрын
@@ArneChristianRosenfeldt if it works does it really matter? its not a final product of any kind
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt Жыл бұрын
@@akamadman203 I just say that the hi tech solution is easier. If you need to save any penny in a series production, you try to reduce this to two layers like Nintendo had done with the N64.
@sansmojo
@sansmojo Жыл бұрын
​@@ArneChristianRosenfeldtHaving just designed my first PCB, yes. I had a choice between figuring out some clever way to route traces between top and bottom (because too many traces needed to overlap) without causing lots of EMI, or just switching to 4 layer. I probably saved myself weeks by switching to 4 layer.
@TimePilot2084
@TimePilot2084 2 жыл бұрын
If this doesn't go viral, either within the maker circle or the retro-gaming/emulation circle, then... then... then life isn't fair! This was an amazing feat. I'm interested in owning my own Lode Runner Appliance.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Please send mail to Eric.badger@gmail.com
@Nevir202
@Nevir202 Жыл бұрын
Seems life isn't fair...
@erichey6394
@erichey6394 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Eric. I am in the same rabbit hole. After 25 years of software engineering, I am starting to use my electrical engineering degree again, recalling my younger years, and having a lot of fun learning. Hope to see more videos from you.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Best luck - any project you're focused on?
@TheSulross
@TheSulross 2 жыл бұрын
do a YT search on the Agon Lite SBC - aimed at retro hobbiest. It uses the Zilog eZ80 as it's CPU. This is backwards compatible to the Z80 but also has a 24-bit mode where can address up to 24MB. And there's an 8-bit base register so that multiple 8-bit Z80 programs can be loaded into that address space for some multi programming fun. Me thinks this Zilog eZ80 CPU is just the bees knees for designing new hobbiest retro-themed SBCs around. Give it a thought for next projects that up the ante over 6502 systems.
@vbachris
@vbachris Жыл бұрын
stuff like this make you really appreciate those who did this back in the 60s 70s and 80s
@elitemantis
@elitemantis 2 жыл бұрын
I watched one of Ben Eater's videos some time ago (the Let's Build Video Card), but didn't understand too much due to not following from start and never having done any serious engineering on my own. Couple years passed and I saw this video. Then I started watching Ben Eater series from start, interrupting from time to time to re-watch this video as my understanding of what you're saying grows more complete. Now, after watching this video maybe 10 times, I think I'm going to create my own 6502 computer. Thanks for the inspiration!
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@robinpalmquist3679
@robinpalmquist3679 Жыл бұрын
This is just amazing
@danielpaurat1783
@danielpaurat1783 2 жыл бұрын
Man, your video resonates so much with me =) I also watched Ben Eaters videos without an electrical engineering background at the beginning of the pandemic and had to start tinkering right away. This kickstarted such a rewarding hobby for me. Since then I build his 4 Bit breadboard CPU, started modding it over and over and ended up building a whole computer around a Z80. Just the other month I saw a video of a guy building Pong from chips, so I had to do this too. Thank you very much for sharing this great video and you are absolutely crazy (in a positive way), for taking it so far. Kudos!
@drivers99
@drivers99 2 жыл бұрын
That's so cool! I just built the Ben Eater 65c02 project. Bought the 8 bit (4 bit?) computer kit. Right now I'm working on learning KiCad while designing a PCB for the 65c02. Maybe I'll do the clock module too while I'm at it. This morning I ran across the pre-made W65C02SXB and was enjoying reading the data sheet and the schematic and actually understanding most of what I saw, which was awesome. It makes me want to do more projects too like Z80 (like following John's Basement) or another channel I saw building one with an 8088. But I also want to make my own little computer (cyberdeck) with a Pico as the base. I have to stay focused on one project at a time haha. Oh yeah I also want to create a Forth (it lets you move from assembly to high level language quickly and easily, while using very little memory) for one or more of those computer (or just run an existing one).
@danielpaurat1783
@danielpaurat1783 2 жыл бұрын
@@drivers99 It's a rabbit hole, isn't it? I really like your Forth idea; reminds me of a video I saw about a guy who took Ben Eaters 4 Bit SAP-CPU and extended it until he was able to compile C code for it. (I think it was mainly turning it into an 8 Bit one and adding a Stack module.)
@cburgess5294
@cburgess5294 Жыл бұрын
late to the party but this video had me smiling from ear to ear. Seeing the entire journey was just delightful and reminds me of some many fun projects I have done in a similar fashion.
@jsmythib
@jsmythib Жыл бұрын
You mentioned several of my favorite builders/channels and hit on every bit of tech I like... The algo is good today. :)
@MikelNaUsaCom
@MikelNaUsaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job. The biggest challenge is keeping your hobby from being just more work. I built 8 bit cpu, was going to expand memory, but it's on the back burner, as I've shifted to doing machining and metal working for hobby, currently. Welding is proving similar to sharpshooting, breath and sight picture are weirdly similar to keeping a consistent distance and bead size on the welding. never enough time if you have too many hobbies.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. I try to keep it fresh by continually learning and adding new skills. Welding and metal work is actually on my list!
@scotty3114
@scotty3114 Жыл бұрын
I was a hardware tech back in the day.. Lode Runner was my favorite game. Have tossed some ideas around, but you are beyond my wildest plans! Good work! I am interested in a Loderunner box.
@rallokkcaz
@rallokkcaz 2 жыл бұрын
Saw your booth at the PRGF, didn't have enough money at the time to support your project but I'm excited to see that a video about this and the progress you've made since then.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Hope to see you this year
@rduckey1956
@rduckey1956 2 жыл бұрын
I am truly impressed. You have a serious amount of drive and I truly applaud your dedication. Lode Runner was the first game that I spend 4 hours straight on in 1983 on a C-64. I still love the game, Email incoming.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@cianmoriarty7345
@cianmoriarty7345 2 жыл бұрын
1:48 Eric Badger: "A close second was Ultima IV" Me: "Thou art a cad and a bounder. Thy presence is an affront. Thou art low as a slug!"
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
I take it you’re an Ultima IV fan. It is a masterpiece in my opinion.
@Joorin4711
@Joorin4711 2 жыл бұрын
You have fine tuned the ratio between information and visual data perfectly! Even though the pace is high in your video, at no time did I think "What was that?" nor did I feel the need to rewind. Excellent work!
@vonchilliman
@vonchilliman 4 ай бұрын
Incredible work!! Very well done. Kid love to buy one of your lode runner emulator boxes!
@rafaelgadret
@rafaelgadret 2 жыл бұрын
very cool! I am impressed and envious of your dedication and skill!
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@delmonti
@delmonti 2 жыл бұрын
...there's no 'off' on the genius switch! You are amazing Sir!
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@dolsthoo
@dolsthoo 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting to learn about your journey of building a 6502 computer and running Lode Runner on it! Your video has a nice pace and I like the editing and your voice-over.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dion! You did a great job on the LodeRunner 2600 game btw. I wish I'd grabbed a photo with you. Are you planning on attending the PRGE again this year? Any new homebrew 2600 games in the works? Any other projects?
@dolsthoo
@dolsthoo 2 жыл бұрын
@@thecodesorcerer Thanks, Eric. Yes, I hope to visit PRGE again this year and then make sure we make a photo :) So cool to know that you helped backing up the original LR source code. I don't have new homebrew 2600 games in the works; currently I'm spending my spare time on restoring an old Out Run arcade cabinet.
@MotownBatman
@MotownBatman 2 жыл бұрын
This is Killer, My Adult ADHD Engineer butt couldn't comprehend this but always wanted to make an apple 2 and find an old case to repurpose; Great Job! Hit that Sub button! Keep it Up
@skellious
@skellious 2 жыл бұрын
IT was fascinating watching your progress! Thank you!
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@not_the_best
@not_the_best 2 жыл бұрын
Well this is awesome. That Pico case is gold!
@egorsolominov3096
@egorsolominov3096 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive amount of work, my congratulations! Thanks you for the links!
@mammouth2727
@mammouth2727 Жыл бұрын
Wow. I am speechless. I am without speech.
@jengelenm
@jengelenm Жыл бұрын
A huge journey in a tiny video. Beautiful man!
@someusername1
@someusername1 2 жыл бұрын
This is deeply impressive work. Wish I was this clever.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ridiculous_gaming
@ridiculous_gaming Жыл бұрын
My computer love path is literally identical to yours regarding owned systems, except I would never dream of creating hardware. You would have made Jay Miner proud!
@bobbazley5376
@bobbazley5376 2 жыл бұрын
Just stumbled across this video but thank you for sharing as it’s amazing to see what people develope. I’ve always enjoyed retro machines especially when we all had to know just some basic commands to get it to do the most basic of stuff. These days we only have to click on an icon and it’s all done for us. Maybe you can emulate another great 6502 computer called the BBC B micro from Acorn. Keep up the work you have done some amazing cool things :) regards from across the pond… the remote Scottish Highlands
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@jurgenskrause
@jurgenskrause 2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing, I am busy doing the nand2tetris course and would love to build a 6502 machine when I'm done. Unfortunately living in rural Africa means sourcing parts is nigh on impossible. Thanks for letting me live vicariously through you!
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Where in Africa are you?
@jurgenskrause
@jurgenskrause 2 жыл бұрын
@@thecodesorcerer In the Kingdom of eSwatini!
@Coillcara
@Coillcara 2 жыл бұрын
You don't give up! Great stuff 👏
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙌
@glarynth
@glarynth 2 жыл бұрын
The algorithm sent me because I've been learning to program an Atari 2600, but this is next-level!
@jimpyle99
@jimpyle99 2 жыл бұрын
I’m interested in the appliance! Nice work.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Send mail to Eric.badger@gmail.com
@davidhand9721
@davidhand9721 Жыл бұрын
"If you want to learn an instruction set, build an emulator" is so, so true.
@OddObsolete
@OddObsolete 2 жыл бұрын
This is incredibly cool and inspiring! Awesome work and great video too!
@crusader2.0_loading89
@crusader2.0_loading89 Жыл бұрын
This is incredible
@sulrich70
@sulrich70 2 жыл бұрын
what a journey! well done sir.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@dragoncracker
@dragoncracker 2 жыл бұрын
such an adventure, great job!
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@TheSulross
@TheSulross 2 жыл бұрын
a retro computing hobbiest over achiever - kudos!
@peteratkin3788
@peteratkin3788 2 жыл бұрын
I am most interested in buying your 'load runner' kit and congrats, a good job well done.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
To clarify, I’m selling the PI Pico based boxes that are running the emulator. They’re currently finished although I’ve been thinking about making into a kit. The “beast” 6502 computer + vga using TTL is still under development.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Send mail to eric.badger@gmail.com
@barmalini
@barmalini 2 жыл бұрын
I love that processor, it was the first chip I learnt to program in assembler
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt Жыл бұрын
I still feel like it has the best use of flags. Once a CPU has a barrel shifter, flags are only useful for ADC and a for loop. LDA sets the zero flag. This promotes zero termination of strings. This lead to a lot of bugs. With 16 bit instructions on JRISC or SH2 it still hurts to waste too many bits on operands. Fusing the CMP and test instruction with branch allows us to cover a lot of use cases. Without flags, instruction re-ordering is easier. RISC is not foremost about the number of instructions. At least I say that we are allowed to specify if ADD listens to the carry flag and if it writes it. Then don’t re-order those ADDs. Loop instruction from 8086 ? It is so weird that there is no clear upgrade path from 6502. ARM is so complicated. I guess that 32 Bit instructions are necessary for the absolute addressing mode.
@ThecrackpotdadPlus
@ThecrackpotdadPlus 2 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, I love this video, made with such love. Check out the rest of you videos now.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@cthutu
@cthutu Жыл бұрын
I'm attempting to do the same thing with a 6809 chip. This is a very inspirational video. I am too feeling intimidated doing my first PCB with KiCad.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer Жыл бұрын
It is so worth it, and in retrospect not as hard as it seemed to be. Do it! 6809… hmm CoCo?
@cthutu
@cthutu Жыл бұрын
@@thecodesorcerer I am Welsh, so I would say Dragon 32 :)
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer Жыл бұрын
@@cthutu best computer name ever
@cthutu
@cthutu Жыл бұрын
@@thecodesorcerer both Dragon 32 and Coco were based off the Motorola reference so they quite similar.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt Жыл бұрын
6809 has MUL. So please show off some DSP audio stuff and 3d !
@GaryLaRocco
@GaryLaRocco 2 жыл бұрын
Most impressive indeed! I'd love to purchase a LR build as well. :)
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Email me at Eric.badger@gmail.com
@tenminutetokyo2643
@tenminutetokyo2643 Жыл бұрын
Done up in blueprint blue.it’s like a dream come true.
@petermuller608
@petermuller608 2 жыл бұрын
Quite an achievement! Also, nice video editing
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@EngineeringVignettes
@EngineeringVignettes 2 жыл бұрын
You crammed a lot of info into this video! Looks like you gained a lot of valuable info in this quest. LR is a good benchmark for 8-bit machines and is a good game, I'm partial to an offshoot of the game (Lode Runners Rescue) as it was the first iso game that I saw in my youth running on a C-64. Cheers,
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@tenminutetokyo2643
@tenminutetokyo2643 Жыл бұрын
And Xbox 360 Achievements. Well done, young Skywalker.
@UndiagnosedGenXer
@UndiagnosedGenXer 2 жыл бұрын
Very Nice!! I'm on the same path (dev for 25 years, started on an Apple IIe, found Ben Eater, etc), but nowhere near your level of awesome.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
You can do it!
@Draculinio
@Draculinio Жыл бұрын
Loved it.
@feedle
@feedle 2 жыл бұрын
I love my Lode Runner box! BTW I'd have a strong personal interest in your Frotz project.. a friend does a lot of Frotz work and I write IF.. See you at PRGE 2023!
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely, I can send you a BadgerFrotz image if you'd like to flash it on your box
@GeorgeFoot
@GeorgeFoot 2 жыл бұрын
Well done, it's great to see how this has all come together! For counting in 7s, it's probably fine if it's just the addresses being done like that - you can make the least significant counter be a 4-bit one and make it wrap after 7, or initialise it to 9 whenever it reaches the terminal count, which I think wouldn't require any external logic
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
I can read a byte at a time but would need to have pixel clock such that 7 pixels are output per phi2 cycle. The high bit is a conditional palette bit. I think I’d need the pixel clock to run at 1.79MHz instead of 1.57. (Reading 8 bits and outputting 7). If I did 280x192 (apple hires) I think I’d need to use a 22.02813 MHz clock. Maybe 22MHz would be close enough. Not sure I could reliably generate the sync signals though.
@madeleinemcandrews6712
@madeleinemcandrews6712 Жыл бұрын
Hey Eric, I’d really love to buy a Lode Runner appliance! How awesome 😅
@stevemcknelly5036
@stevemcknelly5036 2 жыл бұрын
This was great fun to watch!
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@pinchopaxtonsgreatestminds9591
@pinchopaxtonsgreatestminds9591 2 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting hobby you have.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@taskanawa9604
@taskanawa9604 2 жыл бұрын
awesome work
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@gordong-me7df
@gordong-me7df 2 жыл бұрын
i am interested in a load runner gizmo, load runner is one of my favs too. also Mister FPGA i have 5 different systems that have load runner on it. the x68000 god computer i think is running the apple ][ version of it on the mister FPGA. Thanks for your work! -G
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Send email to Eric.badger@gmail.com
@BBfanfun
@BBfanfun 2 жыл бұрын
Great Memories ! for me , it was the Commodore 64 version ! along with ARCHON & JUMPMAN , i wanted to learn Basic to make my own games , HA ! enjoy that 8-bit goodness !
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Archon is a favorite of mine
@JSRFFD2
@JSRFFD2 2 жыл бұрын
Great work! I've personally written a few 6502 assemblers and emulators, but have always shied away from real hardware. Your work is a real inspiration! I've always wanted to make my own video card too. If you would be willing to share schematics or other resources, I'd definitely be interested!
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to share. Kit was amazing at kicking off the hobby.
@ErzaRosenberg
@ErzaRosenberg 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome project.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@rille47
@rille47 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and amazing work, well done sir, the breadboard route is a very ambitious path - respect! My favs from the early 80´s were the same on the beloved Apple II - Lode Runner, Ultima IV (can not even understand today how many hours I spent on it). The Apple had some other games worth mentioning, Sabotage, Boulder Dash, Archon, MonteZumas Revenge, 7 Cities of gold to mention a few that also got some time put in to them.. ;)
@jimweil8879
@jimweil8879 Жыл бұрын
Same here. Throw in Pinball Construction Set to make the hat trick.
@elektron2kim666
@elektron2kim666 Жыл бұрын
Pumping something out of the Pico/MMBasic myself. It's closest to the ZX-Spectrum/Psion with potentials for sensors, keys, displays. I hate all the wiring and tests with failures. The cutest construct is a PWM Throttle for a BEC (RC) which could become automatic one day and for now it's just up and down + emergency stop (3 keys) and I enjoy a propeller under my command. It's just showing -99 to +99% on a display and looks like a tiny PC. My idea with it is a servo tester, but I would like to mount a propeller on an RC car and such construct is a bit confusing, still.
@VauxhallViva1975
@VauxhallViva1975 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@ChadDoebelin
@ChadDoebelin 2 жыл бұрын
Good job! I've subscribed and will keep watching!
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@gameboyv1790
@gameboyv1790 Жыл бұрын
Wow
@derekchristenson5711
@derekchristenson5711 2 жыл бұрын
Great job!
@cellularmitosis2
@cellularmitosis2 7 ай бұрын
Great video!
@williamtell1477
@williamtell1477 2 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah, this is super cool!
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@markfisher696
@markfisher696 2 жыл бұрын
Why is the 1040ST mirror imaged in the opening intro? Minds boggle.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Missed that detail
@atariastinus
@atariastinus 2 жыл бұрын
VERY cool video! I really enjoyed how you covered your journey. I'd love to see more detailed videos of how you worked through various aspects of your design. I've been wanting to build the Ben Eater kit for some time now. Amazing how you took it to the next level. Where can I get one of the Lode Runner appliances?
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
You should, it’s a blast. What would you like to see specifically? Please send me mail: Eric.badger@gmail.com
@atariastinus
@atariastinus 2 жыл бұрын
@@thecodesorcerer I'd love to see more on your PCB 6502 work and the video output. It was cool how you could see the interference in your early video work. Was that system data writing into video ram? Thanks again for sharing.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
In the v2 version, video and cpu RAM were separate. In v3 they’re shared. While clock was high, cpu would control video RAM. In order to have 4bpp the video logic needed to read from RAM at ~6MHz. Couldn’t get the timing just right at that speed. Newer version reads at 1.57MHz which creates a lot more timing grace.
@rumbledethumps
@rumbledethumps 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the algorithm thinks we're the same person? W65C02S. Check. Pi Pico. Two of them. Iterating on EPROMs is lame. Indeed. Woz monitor in 256 bytes. RP6502 monitor in 32 bytes. VGA. Same, but no graphics mode yet. Z-machine? On the 68000. KZbin. KZbin. Well done.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
The similarities are uncanny. I enjoyed your recent video with the FPGA and Commodore keyboard.
@karlramberg
@karlramberg 2 жыл бұрын
Cool. You went through it so fast it seemed almost too easy. Each minute could be a separate video
@RistarteYoshiCH
@RistarteYoshiCH Жыл бұрын
Hello there! Love your vids! May I know where you get infos concerning hardware text mode? I got a vga board but have no idea how to implement the hardware text mode
@shawnbadger2737
@shawnbadger2737 2 жыл бұрын
So cool Eric! I love how you established the goal of running Lode Runner (such an awesome game!), and then just took one step at a time to get there. If I wanted to delve into learning hardware, do you consider the 6502 kit a good place to start?
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bro. 6502 kit and video series were super helpful. I’ve watched the 8 bit computer series. I have the kit but haven’t done it yet. You might want to start with the 8 bit kit.
@retrokayla
@retrokayla 2 жыл бұрын
This is great! I can't wait to see Loderunner running! As for porting Frotz... is a computer even truly usable if you can't play Zork on it?
@untodesu
@untodesu Жыл бұрын
5:56 that's some cga-esque snow right here
@63801170
@63801170 Жыл бұрын
woah! 🤯 Amazing...
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@captainmoonlight829
@captainmoonlight829 3 ай бұрын
I'm interested in owning a Lode Runner (just the PCB board) Appliance.
@erkl797
@erkl797 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Eric, I do love playing Lode Runner. I still have my original cart for the C-64, and a disk with levels I made in my teens. I always wished the C-64 version was blue like the original. So ya I'm interested in one of your LR Kit. I'm Eric as well.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
let's connect over mail, eric.badger@gmail.com
@mdrake42
@mdrake42 2 жыл бұрын
Love the video. You tube recommended it, and it was a great watch. You mentioned about purchasing a load runner appliance at the end of the video. Any still available? If so, are you ok with international shipping?
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Mail me at Eric.badger@gmail.com
@mnewman7303
@mnewman7303 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic!!! I remember playing it on a apple II. Great simple game. How can I get one?
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer Жыл бұрын
mail me at eric.badger@gmail.com
@MD_Mastro_Commodore
@MD_Mastro_Commodore 2 жыл бұрын
fantastic!!
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 2 жыл бұрын
To handle 7 bit wide blocks, just load a new byte into the output shift register earlier, and possibly rewire the parallel input to load the compatible bit position into the shift register output bit. Almost any complex logic circuit can be built cheaper by programming it into a modern CPLD or FPGA, this is the modern equivalent of the "uncommitted logic array" chips that 1980s computer makers customized for fabrication, but available as single units with a 4 pin programming port or a connection to an external flash chip storing the logic design.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
For this project I would consider FPGA to be cheating. That said I have an arty7 on my desk for a future project.
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 2 жыл бұрын
@@thecodesorcerer Hence my suggestion to use a CPLD or old school PAL instead of a large number of 741xx chips, such as 74166 pixel shift registers for the 7 or 8 bit formats of fonts and graphics. 6845 controller chips would be time appropriate but are hard to find these days.
@Xsiondu
@Xsiondu Жыл бұрын
Nice!!
@JasonTaylor-zf6fo
@JasonTaylor-zf6fo 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I enjoyed playing doom on the sansa clip.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
What’s sansa?
@jason.arthur.taylor
@jason.arthur.taylor 2 жыл бұрын
@@thecodesorcerer 1 inch x 2 inch tiny mp3 player with a square display.
@Oregun
@Oregun Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Hardware is nothing more than software in 3D ... says this old software guy. :)
@RetroDawn
@RetroDawn Жыл бұрын
Great projects! Couldn't understand what you said about the Atari HCS and C64 source code, though. I think you said "not" (still on floppies). Are they (as of now) lost forever, or already preserved? I assume the former.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer Жыл бұрын
As of now. Still only on floppies!
@RetroDawn
@RetroDawn Жыл бұрын
@@thecodesorcerer Oh, then my guess as what you were saying (hard to hear the last word in the sentence) was wrong. That's good news! So, they're still on floppies. I wonder if the company could be convinced to share them with one of us in the community, so that we can preserve that source code, as well. I have both systems with disk drives (many of Atari HCS and C64/128 and many drives) and would love to volunteer for that. That was so amazing that they did that with you. Most companies wouldn't do that.
@dazetwenty346
@dazetwenty346 2 жыл бұрын
thanks youtube algorithm! subscribed!
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@ml.2770
@ml.2770 2 жыл бұрын
Cool.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@dazealex
@dazealex Жыл бұрын
I'd like to buy one, please!
@nrnoble
@nrnoble 2 жыл бұрын
Very Very Cool! Thanks for creating this video. I am interested in a Lode Runner appliance. In 1981 I was in HS, and I bought an Apple ][+ (48K, 1 disk drive, $2100) with my own hard-earned money. Lode Runner was the first game I purchased and I played the game for 100s of hours. The game still holds up today as a fun game to play. Thumbs up!, Subscribe.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, $2100 in 1981 dollars is no joke. So glad you enjoyed it. Please send me mail at eric.badger@gmail.com and can work out arrangements.
@jamescole6846
@jamescole6846 2 жыл бұрын
Me and you are about the same. After I graduated HS and was going to tech school for EE, I bought an Apple 2e in 1983 for about the same price. Had the Koala pad, color monitor and all the other options. It was an upgrade from my Ti994a. I played the crap out of LR as well as Choplifter, Wolfenstein, Galaxia, pitstop, and the others but LR was one of my favorites that I also had 100s of hours in. FF to today and the last games I finished were FC6 and RE8. how things have changed. I was a big Doom, Quake and UT for years as wells as every COD but I'm pushing 60 so I am very selective and I don't even try to play games like WarZone anymore. Hands just don't work that fast anymore. But I do still watch the good streams on the tournaments. FYI, if you never played the TF2 single player campaign your missing one of the best stories/games ever made.
@pauldourish
@pauldourish 3 ай бұрын
I just got PCBs working for my own home-built 6502. My ears pricked up when you mentioned a port of frotz. Do you have your port available online, any pointers to where you started, or suggestions?
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 3 ай бұрын
My port is on GitHub. Search for BadgerFrotz. It’s for the PI Pico. You could probably port to a 6503 though with CC65
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 3 ай бұрын
Oh, hey Paul. I’ve been watching your videos for a while.
@Dodo-bf3dm
@Dodo-bf3dm 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! When you ask about buying a Lode Runner machine, are you talking about the Pico, or the actual hardware?
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for asking. It’s the PICO. The “beast” is still a work in progress and may be for some time.
@b213videoz
@b213videoz 2 жыл бұрын
My childhood dream was to hack "Robin of the Wood" - a ZX version by removing that annoying witch 🤪
@krakulandia
@krakulandia 2 жыл бұрын
How did you make he HW text mode?
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Fonts are stored in a rom chip. 1 pin on the chip for each bit of the 8 bit ascii value from memory plus 4 pins indicating the screen row are combined to retrieve an 8 bit value representing the pixel pattern. That value is loaded into a shift register and out put on each cycle by pixel clock. VGA circuits are scanning through system memory. Maybe I’ll make a video describing it.
@krakulandia
@krakulandia 2 жыл бұрын
@@thecodesorcerer I would be interested in seeing a video about this topic :)
@saganandroid4175
@saganandroid4175 2 жыл бұрын
7:21 Commodore and Atari source are what? Bad audio edit.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Are next
@skeleton_craftGaming
@skeleton_craftGaming Жыл бұрын
Did you say Portland? Surly you don't mean Portland Oregon?
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer Жыл бұрын
Yep. Portland Oregon
@Eightbitswide
@Eightbitswide 2 жыл бұрын
Where do you sell the loderunner pcbs/etc?
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Email Eric.badger@gmail.com
@PeterRichardsandYoureNot
@PeterRichardsandYoureNot Жыл бұрын
Yeah as good as Apple ][ graphics were at the time, I am still to this day, perplexed as to what won was smoking when he decided to setup the graphics modes and memory mapping for graphics on the Apple ][ at the time. In short, don’t bother trying to make it Apple ][ compatible unless you have some SM desire.
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer Жыл бұрын
Haha, yeah. Woz is a madman. Too tempting to access the Apple II software library, so I’m doing it! Graphics are basically already working.
@kostis2849
@kostis2849 2 жыл бұрын
You should change your channel's name to "Epic Badger"
@thecodesorcerer
@thecodesorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
You are too kind. Thank you.
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