Roland TD25KV Vs TD30K

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[@65Drums]

Lies Section: The 3rd tom on the TD25kv Is actually a 10 inch PDX-100 drum pad. Also I was half right about the number of kits. There are only 18 kits or different sounds, but there son extra empty slot adding the total up to 36.

[@pasias5159]

65 Drums make a dubstep fills series

[@skirwan78]

should add that Roland also have 18 more drum sets for download off their site that are pretty good for the TD-25. It's a pretty painless load too, simply format thumb drive off the menu on the brain and copy over a folder from your pc.

[@dzre2087]

I get that you're tall... but LOGICALLY speaking, all drummers should want SMALLER -everything (since drums are THE most inefficient of all instruments) ,for many obvious reasons.

[@nickavalos5154]

65 Drums Hey man I was wondering if you could help I'm looking into buying the TD25KV but I'm not sure whether to get the td-25KV tor or the TD25KV. I know both drum sets are basically the same Except for the fact that the 25KVV tour has different pads for The toms And an additional crash cymbal. I noticed the the pads that come with the TD25KV are similar to the TD11 except for the snare which is the PDX 100. But The thing I'm wondering is I had a chance to play on ATD11 for an entire semester and I hated The way the pads felt. But I never had a chance to mess with the tension of the pads. I Figured if I went with just the 25KV i would just buy the extra symbol because I like that the 25KVV tor comes with the extra cymbal. Should I go with the 25KV or just go with the V tour? I know it's about a $500 Jump between both kits but I'm the type of person that would prefer not to spend extra if it doesn't make any sense for me to. Any info would be awesome. thanks

[@Vdrumtips1]

That video was needed! Well described! I would like you to make a video comparing the aD5 with TD-25 and 2Box module. They are all in the same price range. One thing. The TD-25 does not have 3x 8" toms. It has a PDX-100 as floor tom (same pad as the snare).

[@65Drums]

+Vdrum Tips Thanks Vdrum Tips! :) yes I missed that while doing my research, (you know how it is) in all of my travels I STILL haven't seen a 2box module, I really want to play one some day and make a video.

[@65Drums]

+Vdrum Tips also, I need to read up on how the aD5 has evolved. They did more updates since we reviewed them. And that new set they have looks very interesting too

[@markomarkovic5729]

I can't wait to see review of that ATV drum-set by one of you 2 guys :)

[@ttommyschannel1149]

Great comparison. I own a TD25KV and I thought your summation was spot on. I love my kit and love the sounds. I appreciate all of your hard work and advice!

[@finn3939]

65 Drums I want to thank you for your awsome channel and your really good unbiased reviews.

[@masoodkeyvanpoor2675]

Finn 😀😀

[@SoCalDan530]

I just ordered a Roland TD-25KV because of your channel. Thanks for your work. It helped me decide on the best kit for me.

[@agdrummer2610]

I could be wrong about this but I believe the TD25kv has a pdx100(10" pad) for the floor tom as well as the snare. I have a TD25k and it comes with the pdx6(rack toms) and a pdx8(floor tom) pad which are not as nice as the pd85's and pdx100 on the kv model. That being said what Justin says about the solid feel of playing a Roland kit is soooo damn true. I know they are expensive but if you are serious about drumming you really gotta go Roland. I'm super happy I did.

[@Kariel1996]

AG Drummer you're right, it's 2 8"rack toms, 10" snare and 10"floor Tom (I have the TD25KV)

[@agdrummer2610]

I thought that's what it was cause I wanted the KV but sadly it wasnt in the budget

[@Dante-ve1ox]

Love your vids man I am a drummer myself and you have helped me so much

[@russian_fsb_blyat]

I was put off the Alesis by the early adopter problems they were having. The TD25KV was the end decision that was made. I think Alesis need to adopt much more rigorous testing, especially when releasing a "flagship" as it is supposed to represent the companies standards as a whole. They aren't a bad company, just a bit reckless sometimes.

[@jerrinthomasofficial]

Well said!

[@jpaulotv247]

Yes they suck, just say it like it is

[@cubeincubes]

I have the TD-25 and this is TOO TRUE. great points about being twice the cost for advancement. THANK YOU for teaching me the difference between Highhat 10 and 11. The 11 is AWESOME. Worth every penny. E drums are kind of in a world of their own. If you don’t already know how to play it’s a lot of money just to have a set thats fun with headphones on. Most people I come a crossed have tried and failed at some instrument or another before finding what they enjoy

[@Delston05]

Here I am, almost exactly a year getting a 25KV...wishing I could add more cymbals & toms, bidding on TD30 modules on ebay and upgrading my snare and bass drum. If you're on the fence with about a 25KV, I'd say go even a little more if you can swing it.

[@SuncityMexico]

Hello regards from mexico. I have an alesis strike pro, can I use a Roland td30 module on this kit ? Thanks buddy

[@annacallegari6470]

Justin, I've actually owned a TD-25k (for 2 weeks) then returned it and upgraded to the TD-25kv. I had that for just under 60 days before returning it (I purchased at GC with pro coverage). During the time I had the 25kv, I really enjoyed it. I thought it was a great set. I mastered the module quickly. The set build is really solid, but the biggest problem I had with the set was lack of expandability. As the 25kv comes with a 2nd crash, that left only one input left and you can't assign separate sounds to the head/rim or bow/edge. To overcome that obstacle, I bought a TM-2, a BT-1 and a cy-12. I ran the TM-1 output into the aux of the TD-25 module. However, then I lost the ability to run my phone or iPad into the unit for play along, so I went out and bought a small 6-channel mixer. Then I had to buy a stand and a mount for the mixer and all the additional cabling. When all was said and done, I didn't like any of the sounds on the TM-2 except the stacked cymbal. Having lots of sound libraries, I loaded a ton of cymbals (wav files) on an SD card and plugged that into the TM-2. The sounds were ok, but limited to single sample hits… not worth all the money I spend on all the add-ons. Seeing the writing on the wall, I immediately rebooted everything up, returned it and ordered a TD-30k kit. The upgrades to the TD-25kv were over 500.00 bringing the grand total to over 3,000.00. I got a good deal on the TD-30k and paid 3,400.00. I don't regret it. The td-30 is far superior in every way. There are no limitations for expandability. Head and rim can be assigned separate sounds, there are extra inputs, all drums and cymbals have absolute control over sound modeling and and has 3 band eq (the td-25 has 2-band), compression, master compression, a mixer, sequencer, midi in/out, a 12 inch snare, 3 10 inch toms and Roland is now shipping the TD-30k with the MDS-50k rack and a separate DW3000 snare stand (guess they don't make the MDS-12 anymore). I went to Vics Drum Shop in Chicago (the most awesome drum shop in the country btw) and picked up an extra pd-125 for an additional floor tom. Bottom line: the TD-25kv is an awesome sounding and playing drum set, but has too many limitations, and for the additional cost and of expanding, I would highly recommend going with the TD-30k if your budget allows it. I just couldn't swing the TD-50, but I'm happy with the 30-k right now. If you're serious and passionate about drumming, then the additional money will be well worth the investment. The TD-30 has been out for some time, but I look at that as a positive as it has lasted this long for a reason: it is well built, versatile and sounds great.

[@65Drums]

+Anna Callegari thanks for sharing your experience Anna :) I think the TD25kv is great, but it's not for anyone what want a lot of flexibility. Those kind of options are, and always will be reserved for flagship modules :/

[@raynardtschulze-messing2847]

Great information guy! Appreciate it. In south Africa, there are hardly any music shops that have a td25 or td30 available to demo, which sucks a lot. Thus one ends up buying something before you can try it. This information was very useful

[@jeroromouse9699]

I own a TD-30kv for two years never had any problems never seen any bits of rust or ware! Its the best decision in my life in that time when I buy the version of 2012 And they free Roland drumthrone, snare stand and roland single pedal after I upgraded to the new speedcobra double pedals

[@65Drums]

+Jeroro Mouse It's a sweet drumset

[@edsalisch4322]

I think the analogy between guitars and electronic drums is not valid. The problem with electronic drums it that there is planned in obsolesence. You buy a Steinway piano, that piano will last the test of time. You may have to get it restrung every five to ten years but it maintains its value long term which is the same for accoustic sets as well. I figured the TD30 would have stayed the flagship for Roland until 2019 but they replaced it with the TD50. If you bought that Gibson or the Steinway, would you still play it in 2027 or 2037, sure you would. However, the TD30, 50 or 25 will be considered stagnant old or mediocre in a short 3 or 4 years. I thought my TD20 was the bomb when I got it in 2005 but then it is for the most part worthless, now. Electronic drums are like cars or even cell phones whereas Steinways, accoustic drumsets or guitars are like buying a house.

[@65Drums]

+ed salisch valid points

[@drumyogi9281]

ed salisch this depresses me. I only play acoustic but i want an electric. I don't want a gimmic, i want an instrument that is timeless.

[@edsalisch4322]

I hear you brother. This is the philosophical difference between now and when Electronic Drums were first created. Then they were their own instrument because it was synthesis not emulation or samples. Look at videos from the 80s, almost every drummer had the simmons hex kits, roland triangle kits in their sets. Watch videos on youtube of Bill Bruford from the period or Alex Van Halen. You see people converting their accoustic kits to electric with those internal triggers... Justin, could you put mylar heads on your sonor kit to see how it sounds with those triggers inside them(acoustically)? The name of the game is versatility. In the studio, you have all of the effects to make things work but to schlep your laptop and in the middle of a song you get a blue screen your show is shot to hell. PLaying live you need to adopt a KISS mentality of keeping it simple. The truth is, Murphy is alive and well and sometimes bad juju happens.

[@pwcurtisjr]

ed salisch

[@rayescalante8093]

Very well said

[@skirwan78]

I was debating between the TD-25kv and the Alesis Strike, it was agonizing as it was literally just a few months ago when the talk was all about the release of the strike. I decided I couldn't wait and grabbed the 25, I'm really thankful that I did as I've heard quite a few horror stories from people that jumped on the strike, it seems it was too good to be true, for the time being at least.

[@65Drums]

Yeah I'm still thinking the Strike isn't really fine tuned yet. It's a shame, but once they nail it down, It'll be a great set.

[@randalscandal1588]

@@65Drums It seems like the strike's issues are going to be tough to totally fix. Triggering is just bad. Sounds are ok, the fact you can load multi layer samples it is awesome, but it just doesn't seem to trigger well. I plugged in a td12 module and triggering was worlds better. Sad.

[@SteveTheDrummer]

Sooo... I finally did it and replaced my td11kv... with, the td30k. I've watched a ton of videos and ultimately got a great deal on a lightly used 30. Thank you so much for the videos and information, I played my td30s for the first time today and it was awesome...

[@nepentheworld]

Thx sharing this video. Would still worth to get a used TD30 rather than TD25 in 2019? I'm struggle to make decision to choose one. Please let me know what's your thoughts. Thx

[@katmckool]

Great comparison video! Thanks! Since I am triggering Superior Drummer 2, EZ Drummer, and Studio Drummer, I just cannot justify the price difference for TD-30. I would love to have bigger pads and more inputs but I do not plan on using the internal sounds. I'm putting it in a small place anyway so the smaller size works to my advantage.

[@65Drums]

Hey everyone uses a different strategy. Nice setup

[@matthewharrington5526]

Found a deal for a Roland TD 30 K for $2800 (not kv)....good deal? Only 2 years old and looks nice

[@jamesfisher2575]

Nice timing! I just purchased a demo td25 from guitar center this afternoon.Thanks for the videos Justin.

[@65Drums]

Hope you like it :)

[@jamesfisher2575]

65 Drums I am planning on turning my acoustic kit to an e-kit eventually. Thanks again for all the info!

[@MalachiMarvin]

As you've already noted, the TD25KV comes with two 10" pads. It also supports 36 kits (6 per genre). Per genre, three of them are pre-programmed and the 3 are for user defined kits (though, the user can redefine all six). I haven't had an issue with the kick-drum moving. I use a dw3000 pedal which has velcro under it, which grabs the carpet pretty well. A couple of gripes of my own with regard to the TD25KV. 1. The snares can't be turned off. 2. I wish the metronome was more adjustable. When I get into 8th note triplets and above, with 11 identical clicks in a row (or more), it's hard to pick up the beginning of the bar. I end up using my phone most of the time. 3. The lack of expandability. I'm sure I'll think of more after I post this.

[@65Drums]

+Malachi186282 dang dude, you're doing some complex metronome patterns.

[@MalachiMarvin]

Really? Hmm. I can't say that I ever thought of playing triplets or 1/16th notes on the metronome as being particularly complicated. Certainly, I could just play quarter notes on the metronome, or in the case of 1/16th notes just play 1/8th notes at twice the tempo, but that's really beside the point. The metronome on the TD25 lets you select, for example, 1/16th notes. But, because it plays all the notes identically, except for 1, it's hard to catch the beginning of the bar. And, I do like to catch the beginning of the bar so I can use it to make sure I haven't gotten out of step. So, maybe my complaint isn't so much that it be more configurable but that it implement its current feature set more usefully.

[@markomarkovic5729]

When Alesis Strike gets perfected, Roland will came up with something new, maybe something like td-45 - stripped down version od td-50, and td-30k will cost less. Just my thoughts..

[@andrewvosecky9413]

Just bought a 25 on Saturday. looked at the Strike but as you say the cymbal sounds are, as you quite prefectly described it, meh. I think a video like this of the td-11 vs. the td-25 would be a good one too. Those were the 2 I was going back and forth with.

[@65Drums]

+Andrew Vosecky good video idea :)

[@rjsal246]

Hey Justin just subbed to your channel, great content, honest and straightforward I appreciate that! I do have a few questions hopefully you can help me, I’m currently looking at these 2 options. Is there any new updated editions coming out on these? do you think maybe buying some used ones would be a good option? And Is there any major difference as far as build quality and response between td25 or td30? Thank you

[@rhythmcaster2018]

Recently, I've tested both TD-25kv and TD-30k in my local music store. The questionable reliability of TD25 Module as you've mentioned is real. The big chromed knob and other knobs come loosed very easily even the kit (mesh-head) seems pristine. So, I assume that not many people has tested on it. The other side, the dirtier mesh of TD30, everything seems legit and pro-alike gear. The price then makes a hard swallow. Thanks again Justine, love your contents.

[@65Drums]

Glad I'm not the only one that noticed that!

[@5haneOmac]

So bummed at the 'pad note numbers' in the TD-25 module for MIDI. For the crashes, they only provide bow and edge(no note for chokes) and the positional sensing feature on the PDX100 pads is useless as the module doesn't provide any midi note for the snare side(only head and rimshot notes are provided). Seriously, ROLAND?!?!?! i wonder why they chose to omit these features. Is there a way around this? Can you tell what the 'pad note numbers' are for TD 30? I don't have access to any music store to go check it out myself. I feel cheated right now with this 'dumbed down' module.

[@NeilDjents]

Justin do you suggest me to upgrade the td-25kv bss drum pad to the one on the 30kv? Do you sugguest me to buy td25k or td25kv? Can you a video about comparison on td-25k and td-25kv? Thanks soooooo much

[@alexfung6321]

Buy 25k, then sell all tom and buy pd85@2 and pdx100 as tom. Buy one more crash online You'll save 500~600 dollars Thanks me later

[@NeilDjents]

Wing Alex Dang just saw this and this is smart!

[@stevenwelsh98]

I have been in this dilemma for months.. in the UK the td 25kv is £2299 and the td 30 k is £3049 I just can't make my mind up. Thanks for the great vid though it's helped a lot.

[@65Drums]

+Steven Welsh thanks for watching :)

[@SteveTheDrummer]

Glad you made this video, I've been toying with the idea of getting one of them in the future. I guess a concern is that the td 30 is several years old now and the td25 is actually newer... I know you have advised in the past against going back more than a generation or 2 when purchasing electronics. That being said, I really don't like the td50. Only 2 ride cymbals and the disproportionate sizes are a big turn off...

[@65Drums]

+Steven Delamar The TD25 sounds are based off the td30 sounds actually. I still think the td30 is a solid module.

[@cadenceangel]

Hey Justin superb video as always!!! The guitar is my first instrument and I also play drums. I can tell you there are plenty of complaints about Gibson s outrageous "prices" through-out the guitar playing communities (facebook guitar groups, forums and KZbin). The difference is guitarist have so many more excellent guitar companies as"options" to turn to, than drummers that play electronic drums. Your videos are awesome and highly informative (I think I m gonna pass on the Strike Pro and save up for a Roland kit).

[@65Drums]

+Joey Dang thanks man, and you're right, guitarist have an ocean of great guitars to choose from. There just aren't enough solid edrum companies out there.

[@cadenceangel]

Thank you Justin for your awesomely informative vids. No doubt they will be part of the helpful process for me, in choosing a higher end Edrum kit. Of course, I wish Alesis would get their act together as it seems they ve always had the right "basic" idea. Bigger pads and now a very sweet "acoustic" looking Strike Pro for an extremely reasonable price. Alas, I ll probably end up spending the bigger buck$$ on a Roland kit. Roland s durability n edrum sounds combined are still Top notch. Thanks again Justin!!

[@JohnDRobinsonelectronicdrums]

great comparison video, Justin as usual.

[@65Drums]

+John D Robinson Thanks John :)

[@godwinowulo]

Hi, 65 Drums. I'm just curious.. Is it possible to have the tracks out/stems of the TD 25 inbuilt sound for further editing? Thanks

[@Flexapr]

Great video! I just subscribed. Question: I have an V-Custom and TD-8 module kit I bought new in 2002. Is my TD-8 obsolete compared to a new T-25 Module? Also, is my 8” KD-80 nylon mesh kick pad inferior to the newer, cloth-like KD-9 kick pad? I ask because you say the old KD-120 kick pad is superior to the KD-9 kick pad. My 8” KD-80 mesh pad’s response and feel are just like the 12” KD-120 pad (minus the size difference). tried out a new TD-25KV kit last night and may buy it for $2500. Thanks. 😜👍🏻

[@65Drums]

Yes the TD25 is several levels above the TD8 as far as sound quality goes. But I think it has less sounds. Yes I think the KD80 is much better than the KD9

[@Flexapr]

65 Drums Thanks. Funny how they did not continue producing the KD-80 (white) and KD-85 (black) kick pads. Is that Roland’s way of forcing one to buy a KD-120 or KD-140? They’re unnecessarily Big, IMO. I guess I’ll buy a TD-25KV kit and sell the inferior KD-9 kick.

[@samwilkins4890]

I have a D-Tronic q7 Look that up and tell me what you think of it compared to Alesis strike or Roland TD-25 I bought the thing for $600 and I hate it because it actually sucks, I wanna know if I'll see a huge difference moving up to a better quality kit such as ones mentioned and will it be worth it if I do?

[@jakelucas5588]

I have the td 17kvx. I like it but wish there was more quality kits. There's six or so that I like personally. What I do love is the bluetooth feature. Why do these higher end modules not have the bluetooth built in? Just wondering, love your videos.

[@sang2910]

Good vid. For A2E conversion do you recommend a TD25 or AD5 module? Anything higher is out of budget

[@65Drums]

+San G TD25, the ad5 was lacking last I played it, had one for 2 weeks. but there have been software updates since I had one, so I don't know all of the current features.

[@cbee7405]

Hey Justin, I just recently got into the market of electronic drums and i was wondering what are your thoughts on the Roland TD9SX? I know it was discontinued, but im just curious if its still worth buying used.

[@65Drums]

I like playing it. The sounds are a bit weak, but the TD11 sounds honestly aren't a big improvement. The TD9SX still competes with current drumsets in that range

[@cbee7405]

Thanks for the input! I was debating buying either a used TD9SX as I mentioned or a Yamaha DTX522k. Which do you think is the better option?

[@exorcius980]

Hi Justin, thx for you advice👍 But what if i use pd 105 as toms and pd 125 as snare, and cy 14, cy 5 as additional pads? Or this drum module (td25) not support this tips of pads?

[@mst7806]

I just bought a TD 25K and I love it. The only issue is the kick moving around, I'm thinking of nailing it to the floor...;)

[@theheartbreaker1931]

Can anybody help me!!! I’m trying to find the td30k... the model in this video. The only ones I’m getting in my search are not the one in this video. It’s like it doesn’t exist😡 does anybody have a link??

[@BadAsteroid]

I have a TD25kv, and in the future I want to sell the TD25 brain and upgrade to the TD30 brain (for more inputs, sounds, flexibility). Is playing the TD30 brain on a TD25kv kit reasonable, or should I just sell/upgrade the whole thing?

[@65Drums]

+Bad Asteroid it depends on you really. The td30 would be a nice upgrade. It just depends on how large of a drumset you want when deciding to upgrade one part or to sell everything buy a new one.

[@joevation]

I’m not even a drummer but I’m putting together a digital band (4 Bose L1’s, kempers, and e-drums) Loving your vids and I’m following anything on the td25kv pretty closely. I’m leaning toward td25kv but strike pro + mimic pro seems sweet.

[@randalscandal1588]

Mimic is easily the best, but is also priced like it.

[@TheJayco93]

Hey Justin, I have about 800ish dollars to spend and I was looking at either the alesis dm10 studio kit, the alesis command, the Yamaha dtx522k, or the Roland td11k. Which one do you suggest?

[@65Drums]

+BTS Jpscpro dtx522k hands down

[@jero4578]

Please do one of these with the TD25kv vs TD50k!

[@DirtyJobsGuy1]

Asking if I don’t know, but are the pads interchangeable from kit to kit? In other words could I one day get the bigger pads if I came across them?

[@jimp8069]

This was very well done with great information! Thank you -

[@jayem5954]

Quick question- I also have the td-30k. Was just wondering without tweaking or changing anything, what are your favorite stock kits from the td-30.

[@chaseallsup10]

Maybe you can help me with this question since you own a TD-30 module. I've owned a TD-25 and a TD-4 module for about 2 years now. The TD-4 lets you assign any input as any pad type. (ex. setting "tom 2" as a side snare or an extra cymbal). However, the TD-25 does not let you do this. The TD-25 only lets cymbal inputs be set as cymbals and tom inputs be set as toms (which I have learned to dislike a ton). Does the TD-30 have this same problem? If not, i'm considering upgrading.

[@65Drums]

+Chase Allsup you can assign any sound to any input with the td30, and separate sounds to the rim and head zones too.

[@chaseallsup10]

65 Drums thank you! now I want a TD-30. I never understood why the 25 is limited in that aspect

[@joshraleigh6885]

one thing ive noticed from working at a sam ash the last few months is that people tend to just buy a td 50k instead of td 30k because its only a few hundred more

[@charlesadamson8227]

Good job Justin,every time I have a question about edrums ,your latest vid answers the questions ! I'm getting worried about this, are your physic !! you are right to push the roland kit, they are there when you press the on button,fact! Style is very personal, and to me as one who will never play in a band or are restricted in space, loudness , and peer pressure,the small kits are a blessing. In fact,I must admit to using an spdsx, long silence and aghast reaction, What........Yup theres 9 pads, ohh just the same as a td25! add to my td 11, well I like the sounds!

[@65Drums]

hahahaha glad it's working like that

[@clemkelly2159]

What do u think is better td17 module vs td25 ..

[@epochstudios8142]

is $899 a good price for a used Roland TD9SX drum kit?

[@CyberIllusions]

THX for the interesting comparison, Justin! I disagree on the size of snare/toms/cymbals, because to me this is definitively a benefit regarding portability. I love the compact size of the electronic set up and also the weight benefit. Cheers!

[@65Drums]

+CyberIllusions We just want different things from edrums then, it's cool :) glad you liked the video

[@rjsal246]

Great video! I was sold as soon as you said “playing experience” it’s exactly what I wanted out of an e drum set besides all the features. Thank you

[@ruckusallen]

I have a TD- 7 only thing I use it for is a kick trigger, I only play on acoustic, should I upgrade?

[@demonocusmetalocus3558]

no

[@rcbeachflyer2174]

I wish you had made this video last week...just got a 25k set. Your videos have been very helpful)

[@65Drums]

+RC Beach Flyer thanks for watching anyway man :)

[@Kylebleder101]

hey Justin this might be a stupid question .a friend of mine is using a cheap used yamaha e drumthats was like 150 dollars,when he was a beginner. now that hes better what would be a better acoustic or edrum that is around 500 that doesnt sound bad.

[@65Drums]

+Kylebleder101 A DTX450k or The Alesis Forge are the best options for that price

[@MrMishgo]

Hi, Justin! Can you make video about Roland KT-10 or say few words about it?

[@65Drums]

+Michael Smirnov I'll keep it in mind :)

[@theFloxie]

I really want a 25kv, but i can't really afford it at my current life situation.. So i'm looking at a TD11KV with a vh11 hihat instead. Would you say it's a good kit for a ~intermediate drummer?

[@65Drums]

+theFloxie I agree with peter on this one

[@georgeweller6023]

On the td-25kv, is it possible to move a Tom down to have the 1-up 2-down configuration?

[@markado07]

is it possible to use the usb midi to use as a midi in to use a trigger interface or run it thru a recording interface to use the outputs on it to separate signals?

[@Rushfan74]

Hey Justin, Would you recommend a Roland Hi Hat on the Alesis Strike pro kit as a replacement to theirs?

[@65Drums]

+Rushfan2112 I would, but I'm not 100% sure it's compatible or not

[@Rushfan74]

Could we work something out where I send you the Alesis module to confirm?

[@Tbasker]

You made the video TD 25 now or wait for Alesis strike pro later. I had hoped you would make the comparison, now that Strike pro has come out.... But now i also want to know, what you think Strike pro is in relation to all Roland´s drum sets, (From TD 25 and up to TD 50... subject: sound, quality and function, and the usability of the module. if you have tryed it Of course :-)

[@65Drums]

+Thomas Bo Andreasen I can't find a Strike drumset to play to save my life, but I do want to make that video.

[@tonybergeron4226]

Can you buy a td30k or TD 30kv kit and use the td 25 drum kit?

[@MiamiHeat2014]

what is the kit in the background? thnx

[@ricardoalegre3654]

I was waiting for this video a long time ago. But If you only had 3000 dollars would you buy the td25kv? Thank you very much!

[@ricardoalegre3654]

Yeah I know and I thought about that too, but the main reason for buying an Edrum for me is that I live in an apartment, so space and sound is an issue. Also I'm traveling to USA to buy it because in my country is twice the original price. Thank you anyway!

[@65Drums]

+Ricardo Alegre Yeah that's what I'd get :) or a used TD30k, they are selling for around that price.

[@Memoreno94]

Question: Can I use a TD30kv kick drum on a TD25kv? Thanks

[@BallotBoxBoogeyMan]

I played in public for my first time fathers day and my second time this past Sunday at church with my TD25K, my biggest gripe is that I wish I had gotten the KV. I would love the TD30KV but not only do I live on a government salary I am also not at that skill level and although I really want one...... well you know the rest I ain't getting one for a while

[@BallotBoxBoogeyMan]

I also should give you the obligatory thank you for turning me onto Roland, our other drummer plays an Alesis DM 6 off something and it sounds like crap

[@65Drums]

+Adrian Stutzman You can still upgrade the pads if you want :) ebay is a wonderful place. Glad it's working for you and you didn't get a dm6 😜

[@BallotBoxBoogeyMan]

65 Drums I'm planning on ordering the extra cymbal and Tom our maybe just 2 cymbals I dunno yet! I watch your channel pretty religiously thanks for all the info, we have been working with our sound guy trying to get the drums to sound best, could you do a video on that? right now when I use my drums I use my monitor and they run it from my monitor to the board and then out to the pa' s and I use a headphone monitor tat we got from Sweetwater for a full mix monitor, is that the way to go? we are looking for any input that could help

[@morbidangel7275]

Can I use an 18 inch bass drum with the 25KV rack?

[@dreamdrummer5]

TD20 X or TD25 KVX ??

[@ottawapop]

I’m just starting my e drum shopping journey. I played a tad 25kv the other day and holy smokes is it ever small!! Im only 5”6” and still I felt like a giant on this thing.. is it designed for 10yr olds?I’m in a good spot in life where money is not the only factor in my decision making but I could never buy it at any price.....I did like the sounds though, I didn’t”t get into much detail with the module but it seemed promising.

[@65Drums]

I really like the kit, but i agree, it feels a bit small

[@ottawapop]

I just came back from another store (I'm lucky to be on the road a lot of the day at times) and played again with the TD25kv and Yamaha dtx700. They pretty much had the same pad sizes. I walked away feeling like I'm missing something, I liked the DTX heads better. Just felt more like a real drum head.Something about the bounce of the Rolands just seem unnatural and too soft yet too bouncy at the same time. Maybe I should have grabbed a drum key to see if it improved things...Yamaha seems to be discounting all there higher end products, is there rumours of a new release coming soon? The current modules seem to have been around for quite a while.....

[@65Drums]

I hope they will come out with somthing soon. The drum modules they have are getting pretty old.

[@ottawapop]

Thanks for touching base, you have a very helpful bunch of videos. Keep 'em coming, I just subscribed.

[@caradesalsa]

Great vid! Great discussion points! Keep it up

[@65Drums]

+caradesalsa thanks :)

[@ironblast5]

My only thing i disagree with on this video is discontinuing 8" pads I love having a 8" high tom my ideal kit will be a 8,10,12,14, and 16 toms with a 18x14 or 18x16 kick. Having more options are never a bad thing. Besides some guys still like saving space and using smaller pads

[@65Drums]

+Andrew Miller We'll agree to disagree :)

[@91962]

Using USB midi out on the 25kv module into Reaper with the EZdrummer VST (Win10 - I should add), the drum notes are barely audible and increasing the gain in either Reaper or EZdrummer results in horrible peaking/distortion/clipping, etc. Could any of you lovely people on the internet help me out here? Also, thanks for the video, Justin! Obligatory "you basically got me into electronic drums" thank you.

[@65Drums]

+91962 Awesome dude! :) one idea is to get a audio interface. It has a gain knob on it, so you can increase volume without clipping and distortion.

[@richdefazio2497]

From what I've heard, the Roland snares and Hi hats sound the most playable and Musical. But I can't tell if the foot chick and splash are velocity sensitive? I would love to put a cymbal on the high hat that has a bell, because it needs it. It would also be nice if I could put a ride cymbal pad in the crash input so that I could have a bell on the left too. As sophisticated ( and expensive ) as the Roland drums are, you would think they would at least give you bells on all the cymbals, and three zone drum pads, like the Yamaha, But the Yamaha does not sound very good, by that I mean the articulation doesn't translate to what you actually played, even though they are a great Drum and hardware company. I want to be excited about the TD 50, but besides the fact that I can't afford them, the snare drum sounds really weird to me. It sounds like the head is a half inch thick, and the snare wires are choking the drum, even though you're hearing the virtual sound. I also can't figure out if you can add snare wire sympathy to the other drums, the way real acoustic drums vibrate? I haven't seen anybody mention that.

[@troublesomecorsair]

This is the question! TD25KV or TD30K? That's how I found 65 Drums.

[@ahmetcuce9183]

troublesomecorsair if you can find a used td30 for 2900 bucks as he mentions, I don't think it's really a question

[@65Drums]

+Ahmet Cüce That's a real life purchase, I know a guy that got one for $2900

[@65Drums]

+troublesomecorsair awesome!

[@ahmetcuce9183]

That's an incredible deal

[@knoxoxo5123]

Um, what's a cable snake?

[@groad8612]

knoxoxo5123 it's like a really thick cable that other cables all connect into

[@georgelyndall4430]

A cable snake is a multi pin connector that plugs into the drum module and from that snakes out 9 or 10 cables that you hook up to your pads and cymbals where as a standard module you have quarter inch connectors to go into the module into each cymbal and pad I just bought a td 25 but I still wish it had individual plug in because if one goes bad how are you going to replace the cable connector to the module to the cymbal if it goes up get a spare cable snake which I got.

[@exorcius980]

And pls tell more about positional sensitive of this drum module (td25)

[@jloading23]

can you make a video about how to set up cheap speakers on a electric drum set? i can seem to have my drum set make any sounds.

[@65Drums]

+LB Josh I'll keep the video idea in mind :)

[@jloading23]

nevermind i dont need you to do that i figured out how to.

[@65Drums]

I'm probably still going to make a video on it. ive had a few people ask me about it.

[@jloading23]

ok

[@averagejackmedia609]

Living in Canada (Prices are essentially double or close to it) my music store wanted 3 grand for a new TD-25K... not the KV. But they took in a TD30K Very lightly from a guy that added on TD30KV snare, bt-1 and a extra CY12C and they were selling it for a grand more. Right after I made the purchase the prices inflated again and a new TD30K was listed at $6,000, its fallen back down since the td50 came out but..ughh.

[@demonocusmetalocus3558]

Ya we get screwed in canada

[@MrEmanthedrummer]

Really need help choosing between the TD-25 and the TD-15 guys.. anybody have any advice for which I should get??

[@65Drums]

+MrEmanthedrummer tough choice :/

[@MrEmanthedrummer]

65 Drums well I found a td15 for 1200 and a td25 for 1500. worth it to go for td25 or go with td15?

[@ArlindoCardoso]

You have to do the comparative between TD30 and TD50 Ehehe cheers, Justin!

[@65Drums]

+Arlindo Cardoso :) that would be fun

[@relikvija2]

dude, you are right about pretty much everything

[@jamiesea231]

So what are the drums behind you? Pearl mimic with the Slate?

[@65Drums]

+Jamie SEA td30

[@jamiesea231]

Is it the MOST sensitive drums you have played for snare buzz rolls and Ghost notes? I've asked this question on your other vid (sorry for the repeat question) but looking for the best sensitivity for triggering. Thanks for your help! :-)

[@65Drums]

Dude it's not the drum module that makes a Kit sensitive to buzz rolls. It's the pads. The drum module just interprets the data the pad sends it and puts out the sound.

[@jamiesea231]

WIll the Roland V Snare work with the new Alesis Strike? I hear version the Strike's 1.2 fixed a lot of the sensitivity in the Alesis triggers and if needed, perhaps pick up the Roland PD-128S and AB ya know ;)

[@jamiesea231]

I also heard the Alesis Strike 1.2 firmware fixed the buzz rolls according to Robert L. so perhaps the Alesis pads were fine but the firmware needed some love ;)

[@broooksly]

The TD-25KV has 18 preloaded kits but 36 total.

[@65Drums]

+radiojam yeah but they are blank :(

[@broooksly]

65 Drums oh I see what you are saying now. So any kits that I create myself to fill up the other spaces I would essentially have to "reuse" sounds from one of the 18 kits? That's kind of disappointing. I am thinking of trying one of those vexpressions packs though because I am definitely NOT a tweaker type :)

[@skirwan78]

There's a download link in the user manual and off of Roland's web page where they give you another 18 along with a firmware update

[@jayman9388]

Can you swap the kick pad for the kd120 to put it on the td25kv

[@65Drums]

+Jay Man yup

[@jayman9388]

65 Drums appreciate it man

[@AtTheSourceStudios]

haha love that Alesis dig

[@65Drums]

When they make crappy pads I gotta call them out on it. Already had to delete a butt-hurt alesis fanboy an hour ago.

[@AtTheSourceStudios]

65 Drums ya man the hype was dead in the water as soon as the strike was out for over a month and still sounds clunky and people still reporting issues. TD25/TD30 and Roland quality FTW.

[@moonabys]

i own a TD25KV and to just play normal along with songs to not annoy the neighbors instead of my aqoustic one. it does the job but all he says is true. if you're tall you need a bit better toms and symbals. also i love allot of different symbals and you can have 4 symbals incl the ride.you can split em but you have 2 same sounding ones then.anyone else here happy bout price/ quality here?

[@bignatemadeit3764]

3:09 😂😂😂😂😂 electronic drum set humor 😂😂😂😂

[@65Drums]

;)

[@relikvija]

dude! thanx for these great videos! I agree with pretty much everything that you are saying in your videos(I know you care a lot about that:) anywayz, I got td25k for 1600 new couple of months ago. It's a good kit.

[@65Drums]

+relikvija awesome :) glad the kit is working out for you

[@bv9434]

Dang. How’d you get a deal like that?

[@veltri8134]

lowkey i really wanted this video haha

[@65Drums]

I was lowkey hoping some would

[@book9066]

Should've done Roland TD25 KVX vs Roland TD30 KV

[@henzaayn9156]

When does he actually play his drums

[@swankieracorn2170]

I prefer the td30 Great Video!

[@65Drums]

Thanks for watching :)

[@drumobsession8644]

Hey, you’re not sunk if you don’t like the kit sounds, you can change the pitch, muffling, drum itself, SO MUCH you can change the cymbals, the cymbal sizes, blah blah but yeh you can make the kit sound like what you want

[@hmanh2135]

You hit it right on the head..lol. Good video man.

[@johndef5075]

I actually dont want a 14 inch snare. A 12 inch snare is plenty big enough on an edrum set.

[@babarambasumatary8279]

India price please

[@mikestein1024]

Call me crazy but I've just never liked the sounds of any of Roland's modules except the td-50 too processed and fake sounding the newer modules that use samples sound much more realistic but I've always thought Roland's hi hats played the best out of all the rubber ones

[@65Drums]

+Mike Stein It's all about personal preference :)