I really want to hear what one of these sound like through some headers
@jlo138003 жыл бұрын
brapppp
@davidgriffin86743 жыл бұрын
Yeah, with a nice choppy sounding big mutha thumper camshaft and some 2 inch primary headers. Bet it will sound like a monster! Nothing sounds as badass as a big cube motor with a long duration and a tight lsa cam running thru some quality big thick tube headers and a set of 3 inch in/out flowmaster 10's !! Man!! I can almost hear it now rumbling from under the hood of my black metal flake 65 mustang fastback with 15x10
@davidgriffin86743 жыл бұрын
Cragar ss on the rear and 15x4's on the front .
@davidgriffin86743 жыл бұрын
And a smile plastered ok permanent on my face. Lol
@superduty45564 жыл бұрын
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate that the cam is inside the block like God intended?
@jeffmiller31504 жыл бұрын
Are you not familiar with the SOHC 427 from the 1960's!??
@superduty45564 жыл бұрын
@@jeffmiller3150 well yeah, Pontiac fooled around with one too. The cam belongs in the block.
@PureCountryof914 жыл бұрын
😂🤣 yeah. No. It's for sizing. The 5.0 coyote makes 460hp/420lbs of torque on a mustang tune. If this thing wasn't gonna be enormous, an ohc version would easily be 500hp out of the box
@superduty45564 жыл бұрын
@@PureCountryof91 I'm sure GM engineers could wring the same power from a 5.3 if it wasn't a truck engine. Big deal.
@roninkraut68734 жыл бұрын
PureCountryof91 It’s not just sizing. It was also simplicity, low end power and longevity under load. This was always intended to be a commercial truck engine. But let’s just appreciate that we get more Ford engines to play with
@zackfishle10094 жыл бұрын
@8:45 "We cut this block with a bandsaw." Thanks for sharing. Great info
@revanevan4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@fiveohn4 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that the Ford designer of this engine is a drag racer and knew this motor would make its way into the hotrod scene. Also it will help Ford take away from the LS base and its about time. Lovin it !!!!!!!
@andyharman30224 жыл бұрын
It probably won't poach a lot of LS users until Ford makes an aluminum block version. Of course, the stock iron block will be great for boosted drag race applications...
@mikekopmanis20994 жыл бұрын
It's not mentioned, but the crankshaft laser hardened, superior to induction, developed by Ford and and an industry first. The first engines crank is a prototype, as it's discolored from furnace tempering.
@revanevan4 жыл бұрын
Thank for mentioning that and for checking out our channel.
@andyharman30224 жыл бұрын
GM was doing laser hardened cams in the 70's and 80's.
@mikekopmanis20994 жыл бұрын
@@andyharman3022 Sorry, but in the 70's and 80's a 6kW laser did not exist to the public, and the military didn't even have them. You are likely confusing this with induction hardening, which largely replaced conventional heat treatment.
@andyharman30224 жыл бұрын
@@mikekopmanis2099 Didn't need 6kW to do laser hardening of cams. The laser was pulsed to heat a spot about .030" diameter, then turned off to allow the heated spot to mass quench, thereby making the martensitic transformation for hardness. If you would look at a production cam from that era, you would see the raster pattern of hardened spots. Not likely that I'm confusing it with induction hardening, as I wrote my engineering thesis on contour induction hardening.
@GucciBodyBags4 жыл бұрын
Im a simple man. I just want this in my sn95 in place of my windsor.
@daisbestDA94 жыл бұрын
I want one for my obs haha
@roninkraut68734 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about my Panther
@csampang14 жыл бұрын
In a perfect world I'd love to swap this into my 97 Thunderbird
@sorshiaemms59594 жыл бұрын
i wouldn t knock the windsor too hard
@jlo138004 жыл бұрын
Tilt it upside down and run oil injection. My OMC Johnson v8 2 stroke can do this and im sure this 7.3 can. im getting some ford v8's from a junkyard for my dry sump oil injected 2 stroke oil experiment. I will be using Motul 800 2t for my experiment. i cant wait to try this and will it survive? lets see?
@jpp98464 жыл бұрын
The 7.3 stuff is 🔥🔥 1800 HP.... unbelievable we're talking these numbers and the crank is a definitely a chunk of badass! This man does a great job at explaining the features... You've surrounded yourself with a lot of knowledge E 👍
@fread514 жыл бұрын
Did damn thing ain't going to make no 1800 horsepower gtfoh
@nordic54904 жыл бұрын
600hp mate. I have an daily driver powered by an unopened Barra making 800hp. That 7.3L is a massive boat anchor.
@boblogIIIfan4 жыл бұрын
@@nordic5490 lol do u not realise people make 3500 from those 5.0 fords? Id ne surprised of they dont hit 3000 with this knowing the yanks
@spankthemonkey34374 жыл бұрын
billy heaton yea tell me about it specially on those toothpick rods
@spankthemonkey34374 жыл бұрын
Nor Dic no way stock bottom end of Barra making 800hp
@dannycalley77774 жыл бұрын
R.E. ………..great job , Im old so tell Ford enginners to send 6,, 7.3 s to Kasse and the Gliddens and big check for both and get out the way so they can make POWER !!!!!!!!!!!
@chucksgarage71654 жыл бұрын
Boss nine heads would be so cool on top of that block!!!!
@brandonpelham94824 жыл бұрын
Yes jon kaase needs to build one of these lil monsters
@RSDX994 жыл бұрын
I like how people point out Kasse and Glidden as great Ford engine builders (they are) but nobody gets more power per CI NA than the Engine builders in NASCAR 358 CI 850HP on 99 octane unleaded is pretty stout. Plus they run for 500 miles not 8 sec.
@UnityMotorSportsGarage4 жыл бұрын
Since both the 7.3 and 6.2 share the same bore spacing of 4.53" we are looking to put the 7.3 crank in a 6.2 SOHC! According to Brian the main and rod journals are the same size... So it's party time!! Thanks Again for such awesome Vids...
@2011metalmaniac4 жыл бұрын
Do people swap the 6.2 into mustangs? Excuse my ignorance I’m in the uk so I’ve never heard of it.
@ivanmunoz77464 жыл бұрын
2011metalmaniac no one does that in the states
@2011metalmaniac4 жыл бұрын
Why what’s wrong with it?
@TqSNv9R0iG5Ckxew4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you will need to clearance the block for the rods?
@ivanmunoz77464 жыл бұрын
2011metalmaniac One of the reasons are that it is to big and the 5.0s and others are better anyways because they’re lighter and higher reving
@smokenchoken17364 жыл бұрын
Fork me i love those heads, everything we always wanted, and its stock!!!
@smokenchoken17364 жыл бұрын
Would be so easy to do individual stacks on this like an old school FE, speaking of which the bottom end is designed similarly and i am in LOVE
@Tanner7314 жыл бұрын
@@smokenchoken1736 it would sound so good with 8 stacks screaming at wot
@aaronkeller82694 жыл бұрын
Being a Ford guy, I don't like this engine being called "Godzilla". That names already been taken by a legend.
@imakittycat13024 жыл бұрын
Yea and Godzilla is Killed by the Japenese in the end also. Not a Good name for American Muscle.
@aaronkeller82694 жыл бұрын
@@imakittycat1302 I was referring to the RB26 who's claimed the name "Godzilla"
@Internet_Handles_Are_Dumb4 жыл бұрын
Aaron Keller yeah they could’ve called it Hercules or King Kong or whatever.
@Diesel2573 жыл бұрын
"Clydesdale" would have worked
@hieronymus..bosch85323 ай бұрын
@@aaronkeller8269right wouldn't more of an appropriate name been King Kong
@dorightal49654 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you optimize the 7.3 for max low end to mid range torque. A real stump puller for RV hill climbs!
@tomjacka74014 жыл бұрын
thank you henry ford. for all the fun you have brought all of us gear heads.
@concretejungle774 жыл бұрын
I want to put one of these in my 96 F-superduty(450) reg cab flatbed!
@daisbestDA94 жыл бұрын
Same !
@jlo138003 жыл бұрын
more like a Hirth sled motor, i got a few gallons of XD-100 BRP for these sexy 2 stroke 7.3's!
@jlo138003 жыл бұрын
Oih the 2 stroke is the only american engine that is worth a shit! fucking hate joke oh there fun to destroy they got some use, haha.
@jlo138003 жыл бұрын
well a 4 joke stroke is fun to bash with a sledge hammer!
@BeanoNoir4 жыл бұрын
This could be an interesting series, except instead of all the commonly rodded out motors that there are a billion videos on, it would be interesting to see some of the new half ton diesels and everyday ecoboosts etc. all pulled apart. No one breaks down the engineering in some of the most common engines like this. I particularly find it fascinating.
@briansemder5652 жыл бұрын
Cam phasers are garbage ford should give up on building engines, seen videos of customers with these engines that develop knocking noise at low miles, why does it always take the aftermarket world to make ford engines bulletproof ?
@Random122314 жыл бұрын
Going to be putting in my order for a 7.3 F350 in early fall. The more technical detail I see around this engine the more excited I get. Thank you for these videos. Very informative and well done. 👍
@johnsbullard4 жыл бұрын
I already put in my order at the local junk yard.. When they get 1 in call me.. I still can't get over the 1800 hp comment 😬😲😎
@GreatLakesLogger4 жыл бұрын
Ya.... I have a little struggle believing that block will hold that for any length of time. Mains and crank look great but that slit in between the cylinder walls was a performance mistake. There will be sleeves coming out for this I guarantee. At that point I could possibly see 1800. Not trying to be that cold water pourer tho🤣
@bri-manhunter26544 жыл бұрын
Your going to pay a fortune
@Achernosky854 жыл бұрын
The slit in between the cylinders is a point of failure (for a boosted engine) not an increase in reliability. I've replaced shortblocks for nearly 100 Ford Ecoboost 4 cylinders that had coolant consumption CAUSED BY THE EXACT SAME SLIT!!! In May Ford released a revised block that had a hole bored between the cylinders that connected to the coolant passage in the cylinder head rather than the older slit design. Mark my words, that slit is a death sentence if you run high boost!
@andyharman30224 жыл бұрын
Good point. The new GM 6.6 gasoline truck engine has a hole drilled at the top of the cylinders for ring pack cooling.
@anthonysgarage4 жыл бұрын
How did you guys hook up with a 7.3 so soon? Glad to see a good jump into the aftermarket so early in production, but it’s gonna be several years before they turn up in salvage yards for any reasonable price.
@atomatom73554 жыл бұрын
we all work or worked for Ford...
@kyboy54 жыл бұрын
Motorhomes my friend
@cheyenneobregon1844 жыл бұрын
atom atom how bai it disassembly manuals? How do you guys get those for such a new engine?
@brentiaconelli64844 жыл бұрын
Several years?... Your forgetting about crashed trucks. Im surprised there's not dozens on eBay yet
@mikekopmanis20994 жыл бұрын
Brian Wolfe was Chief of Product Engineering before he retired....I am responsible for Ford global crankshaft manufacturing.
@forestlawrencegrading91544 жыл бұрын
I love it it reminds me of two things the old Fe side Oiler and the LS I was a Ford guy all my life until the modular yuck what is sad is, it'll be 15 years from now before I can get my hands on one of these I'll be too old to really give a shit by then I don't think I've ever owned a vehicle less than 13 years old I don't believe in payments for giving my money to some big Corporation I prefer my money to go to the private individual
@rickeydriskill10964 жыл бұрын
Im in the same boat as you. One of 3 is a mod clunker 2v that is my wifes. What a mistake and a pile of junk. No way as good as my 351w and 460.
@user-gz8id4vf1i4 жыл бұрын
I'll keep my old 460 thanks, it's been on the road since 1983 and has 480,000 miles on it and still runs like a champ. Not dissing the the 7.3 or anything, its a great looking engine. Might be a fun swap later on.
@tracylemme13754 жыл бұрын
I have farmer friend with a 460 powered water well. After ten years (about 65000 hours) it is still running strong.
@mikecubes16424 жыл бұрын
was the engine ever rebuilt? what kind of oil do you use?
@frankdiii12234 жыл бұрын
I'm a pretty DieHard LS guy. But I can't deny the fact Ford has really been stepping their game up since the coyote. And this engine has me excited especially that it's a push rod. Way to go Ford.
@Godscountry2732 Жыл бұрын
Yes Ford has some really great engine packages.The Coyote is a monster,mid 9 second performance with low boost.Personally speaking I would advise builders to turn down the power if the car or truck is going to be driven on the street.The big HP numbers work best on the racetrack.
@mfree802864 жыл бұрын
p.s. you guys seriously need to go back in and stack the sections from your cutaway block and demonstrate exactly what type of deck is used and where these slits run and how deep because you've got a million and a half commenters going on and on about head gaskets....
@rickriggs72334 жыл бұрын
They need to sell that as a crate engine but with an aluminum block.
@anytakers4 жыл бұрын
Ford is so close to actually giving the people what they want. A pushrods motor with a good block, crank and heads but yet they are still to dumb to put a good rod in it. For heavens sake take notes from chevy and put a good rod like a gen 4 LS motor has.
@andyharman30224 жыл бұрын
It will be easy to get rods from Carrillo or many other aftermarket sources in the near future. They can easily sniff out a new market.
@anytakers4 жыл бұрын
@@andyharman3022 Yea I understand that part but it would be nice to have a good rod from the factory. Not something that almost imediately needs upgraded.
@EgoTheSavage4 жыл бұрын
Will be interesting to see what this costs as a crate engine. Hopefully they start to show up for sale out of recked trucks for a better price that coyotes. An engine can only be as cool as it makes sense.
@hendo3375 ай бұрын
I think his stroke recommendations are way conservative, I would concur that for higher boost 4.1-4.2" stroke is probably for the best. Remember this is a 9.65" deck, an LS is a 9.2" deck, they run high boost on a 4"-4.1" stroke LS prettry regularly, a 3.622" or 3.856" stock LS/LT or L8T stroke is probably a better idea for over 1000-1500hp+ regular racing use, however for N/A work aftermarket 9.2" LS are frequently run with a 4.125"-4.25" stroke. I have seen than Callies is coming out with a 4.6" crank for the Godzilla which I am guessing is for n/a application. I figured with a 4.225"(0.005" over hone) bore and 4.6" stroke you can have a 522ci Godzilla and I would guess that with a shorter rod to allow more piston thickness and that ample cylinder thickness 1,000-1,200hp operation with boost or nitrous should be safe enough. 9.65"-9.2"=0.45"×2=0.90"+3.975"=4.875" So there's no reason even at that stroke with the added deck height that the rod can't be shortened a little if necessary and still allow at keast equal piston crown to what an LS with 4" stroke with moderate boost has. I would imagine that a stroker Godzilla should be able to be built with 800hp+ n/a and make 2,400hp+ on 3bar no problem, especially considering that a rod and piston engine with head work can make 750+hp already. Shame Ford didn't sneak in an easter egg in the Godzilla block design, since it has a 4.53" bore spacing, where it has FR9 Nascar headbolt pattern allowing one to buy a bare factory Godzilla block for $1,500(they were $995 for a short time) and put a set of cheap used Nascar FR9 heads on it. I still think Dart or someone is missing out on a goldmine if they produced affordable cast iron(instead of CGI) blocks (possibly with a taller deck for strokers) that can use all the cheap used Nascar R07 and FR9 heads and accessories. With the wide bore spacing that would mean much larger than the 4.185" bore also, surely more like 4.250"+ bores, which means 371ci instead of 358ci with a standard used NASCAR 3.25" crank and could mean 454ci with a 4" stroke at standard deck heaight without oil sprayers in the way and 511ci+ with a tall deck and a 4.5" crank, which are also number a Godzilla could be built too.
@SoI_Badguy4 жыл бұрын
I know this is probably sacrilege for such a nice new engine, but I wonder how well these things will just take abuse in 6 years when people are picking them up for dirt cheap and throwing ebay turbos on them. Will we finally have a motor that can dethrone the 6.0 Vortec for cheap power? One of those made a tad over 1,400hp with nothing but gapped piston rings and a couple turbos on an engine dyno.
@mexital11594 жыл бұрын
Fully skirted cast iron block, 6 bolt mains, beefy head bolts, and a stout crank. Yeah, I am guessing this engine will last.
@jimm2442 Жыл бұрын
I claim that Ford completely blew it on the block design of the 7.3. That "coolant slit" between the cylinders is a joke and head gaskets will blow like popcorn on these. There absolutely needs to be coolant flow between the cylinders and a solid metal area for the head gasket to seal against. For Ford to siamese cylinders is flat out stupid they know better. Look at the 2.7 Ecoboost and the issues there. Ford continues to produce garbage and this engine is just another example. A single row timing chain really? An oil pump driven with a single row a chain and shaft? These engines are having camshaft and lifter failures at around 40k filling the crankcase with metal. Do even a little research and discover how bad these engines really are. As a Retired mechanic with 40 years of on the job experience you will never see a Ford in my garage. From spark plugs blowing out of heads, water pumps driven by a timing chain so when they fail is fills the crankcase with coolant, dual clutch transmissions, 6.0, 6.4 diesels, CP4 high pressure fuel pumps, check engine light on normal, and so much more Ford continues to produce pure crap.
@RK-nr8qf2 жыл бұрын
Only thing on this engine that's impressive by todays standards is the forged crank,port injection, cubic inches and it being a new pushrod actuated engine from Ford. Nothing else reallly stands out. Gm was first with cracked- cap rod technology.
@BrandonLayMusic4 жыл бұрын
Only thing I’m not crazy about is water pump bolts going thru front cover but I suppose if your a die hard ford guy you’ve about got all the gasket timing down. Can’t wait to see what a cam will do. The intake and exhaust manifolds already look good so I doubt theirs gobs of power to gained but still exciting to see these vids! Keep it up
@jamie307014 жыл бұрын
Only thing I don't like is the plastic looking timing chain guides and the oil pump chain driven with a big plastic guide looks like weak links to me for high end stuff. Rest looks strong af though.
@MikeVieira4 жыл бұрын
Would be fun if Ford threw this in a new version of the Mach 1!
@joenobody25804 жыл бұрын
428 cobra jet ;)
@knutendreringhagen2894 жыл бұрын
Would be to front heavy, otherwise cool idea.
@MikeVieira4 жыл бұрын
@@knutendreringhagen289 just give it a nice set of springs!
@adamdodsy844 жыл бұрын
Ford did iron block DOHC 5.4s WITH blowers on top of them in mustangs for a few years. This engine being a push rod engine carries the weight lower and would be lighter than an iron 5.4 even without the blower.
@davidparker45774 жыл бұрын
Yeah supercharged 1100 horsepower come factory with some sticky Mickeys
@vintagetintrader10624 жыл бұрын
This engine is using all the good designs of the past, the full skirt block of the FE and Y block, the cantered valves of the Cleveland and 429/460 and the timing cover a bit like a Windsor, just hope it has the firing order of the old Y block to get that sound. Also with the chain driven oil pump there must be a way to drive a external oil pump to lower the oil pan for engine swaps/racing
@bradpittman50754 жыл бұрын
Fractured rods are awesome. In caterpillar land we have been using them for ever. Although all the bolts we use are torque to yield. I dunno about this ford rod but it’s something to keep in mind if guys are going through there oem rotating group to balance it or whatever they may need to change the rod bolts. Maybe they will make an arp bolt or something. Please put some pistons and rods in this engine and a 102 on it and a little methanol lol.
@duncanseuropeanautomotive81234 жыл бұрын
Interesting that the top compression ring land has a steel insert on the piston, should equal many years of durability.
@sammyvices25474 жыл бұрын
Built for strength and longevity I like it a lot👌🏼🏁
@sammyvices25474 жыл бұрын
J Smith the first gen had problems but they have been resolved, not like government motors type of problems though lol
@dr._breens_beard4 жыл бұрын
@J Smith agreed, gm literally forgot how to make engines that run properly. Ford seems to be the only one that can figure out how to make a turbo engine that doesnt shit itself when worked hard
@PureCountryof914 жыл бұрын
You wan Ford reliability, look at that Barra i6. Sadly they're out of production and big externally for a 4.0/245cid.. but damn if they can't make power
@PureCountryof914 жыл бұрын
@J Smith what don't I know? Hmm? That the Barra i6 are capable of street power levels in the 600hp range? That they're reliable, or that they're externally large? I mean, I have one sitting in the back of my truck.
@dr._breens_beard4 жыл бұрын
@J Smith you spelled ecotec wrong
@pryme20132 жыл бұрын
Are those chain guides plastic? I would think metal for longevity. who cares about a bit more noise.
@michelboos77784 жыл бұрын
Great video! Would love to have a version of this engine in my Raptor.
@Rome_5044 жыл бұрын
Me too bro
@thomasdebord11444 жыл бұрын
Pretty similar to a LS based engine. I bet itll make massive power.
@freedomisntfree_44 Жыл бұрын
But a lot beefier
@63bbray3 жыл бұрын
What is the maximum overbore you can get with that production block? I am thinking for high performance applications you could weld up that coolant saw cut in the deck?
@adamlemus75854 жыл бұрын
After my VW and Datsun is done I want to build a Ford Galaxy with one of these 7.3’s.
@pablotharpalo56854 жыл бұрын
I hope you dont put a cruis-o behind it 😂
@adamlemus75854 жыл бұрын
Pablo Tharpalo Nope. Six speed
@marcusladon17964 жыл бұрын
@@adamlemus7585 Man I had a 66 Galaxie 500 xl with a 390 in it...It sat on my granpa farm here in Texas for yrs I sold the 390 out of it bought a 429 block with the intent to build it but kids wife and farming takes most of my time
@adamlemus75854 жыл бұрын
Marcus La'Don I have a line on a 64 Galaxy that a friend of mine has and may be willing to trade a few Honda Mugen parts I have. It’s a 64 black on black, no motor, no transmission just right for a project. But yeah family and spare time is expensive
@pablotharpalo56854 жыл бұрын
@@adamlemus7585 I feel ya. I just bought a teal 63 4 door project 352 + cruis-o-matic. Gonna chuck a C6 in there instead
@P00katube4 жыл бұрын
It's high time for Ford to build a 7.3 Litre Cobra Jet and put it under the hood of a Mustang so it can go head to head against the Dodge Challenger Hellcat.
@MmeDesgranges3 жыл бұрын
Great 7.3 content. May I suggest you create a playlist just for the Godzilla videos?
@joenobody25804 жыл бұрын
You guys aren't concerned about the saw cuts at the head gasket surface ?
@adamdodsy844 жыл бұрын
Joe Nobody doesn't look like they are deep enough to cause any weakness. Look maybe 2mm deep.
@davesperformance882 жыл бұрын
no bearing tangs on the rods? I thought that was only a audi/vw thing.
@michaeljordan45714 жыл бұрын
don't know how i feel about that saw cut between the bores, metal looks pretty thin.
@akman19314 жыл бұрын
I cant wait for the flood of mod videos.
@cb25364 жыл бұрын
Cam phaser? Not good for reliability.
@revanevan4 жыл бұрын
They seem to work fine in the Coyote.
@cb25364 жыл бұрын
@@revanevan Going by what I read from Ford techs on the F150 forum about the 5.0 cam phasers failing on 5.0 engines and personal experience with the 5.4 3V. One as low as 5k miles and others in and out of warranty period.
@BarnStangz4 жыл бұрын
Looks like one hell of the beefy engine. The only thing that I'm on the fence about is the chain driven oil pump. I just remember all the shitty Mitsubishi engines that would fail because of the chain... I'm not saying that this is going to happen with the Ford... Just sort of curious I guess...
@spike6622 жыл бұрын
Chain drive oil pumps are very very common. And very reliable. Bad design killed the ones you know to have problems.
@BarnStangz2 жыл бұрын
@@spike662I'm sure that there are better, more well thought out chain oil pump designs, but in my opinion, it's hard to beat a gear driven oil pump.
@spike6622 жыл бұрын
@@BarnStangz in my opinion, the gearotor pump directly off the crank snout is the best way to go. But, they also have their issues. The best drive system is probably gear to gear, but not the old type with the 90° rotation chance like the ones off the camshaft. That was probably one of the worst designs that ever worked 😅
@garcjr4 жыл бұрын
Ford can you please sell this engine with a manual gearbox for us neiche manual gearheads?
@PureCountryof914 жыл бұрын
I suspect a powerstroke Bell or modular fits. You're welcome
@thacarter88214 жыл бұрын
I may be wrong, but it would make me uncomfortable putting very much boost to that engine with the semi free floating siamesed cylinders. I just get the feeling that heat would build between them and they could possibly move around causing head gasket failure in the least. Similar to the ford focus rs engines that have the same type of cylinder setup and are popping head gaskets at very low mileage. Just doesnt seem like very much support around those cylinders. Just my opinion though.
@Wildpony984 жыл бұрын
Does the factory save that much money per unit that they can't upgrade the engine to fully forged (everything) and then be able to promote as such ? I'm sure in a $50-$80k truck they can hide the extra $300-$700 'cost'.
@void2618_4 жыл бұрын
Forged pistons expand more meaning they wear the bore and pistons significantly more than a hypereutectic piston as it goes through heating and cooling cycles
@allanb32224 жыл бұрын
Yes they save millions. Not to mention NVH requirements.
@Wildpony984 жыл бұрын
@@void2618_ Cool thanks.
@jeffschwartz51994 жыл бұрын
Like your thinking . Always thought that if you do it right , then they would only ask for "more" work done, not repairs!
@corystansbury4 жыл бұрын
@@void2618_ Also expand at different rates and tend to have poorer start-up emissions. OEM engineers have a million considerations the average hot rodder doesn't. Rarely is "better" a simple metric!
@DC-si8xw4 жыл бұрын
I didnt see anything cast into the block to keep the cylinders stable to the walls of the block? i think ford focus rs had a problem with cylinder wall flex related to this?
@jimkalfakis98934 жыл бұрын
That’s great Evan, I never knew that you had a channel. Was a fan of your column, wayyyyy back
@revanevan4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jim, let me know what kind of stuff you want to see.
@jimkalfakis98934 жыл бұрын
Evan you’re doing great man, usually you’re covering the newer and some of the one off stuff. I go to Uncle Tony for the older stuff. I remember you driving The Fridge when that was new, I still have my Lightning.
@Turbo_Todd4 жыл бұрын
That "saw cut" between the bores seems problematic from a boosted application like Ultrastreet that they mentioned. Not much room for the headgaskets to seal. Thoughts?
@robsorgdrager84774 жыл бұрын
I need one of these mated to a ten speed in my 09 p71.
@PureCountryof914 жыл бұрын
Or just drop a v10 in front of the 4r70 with a j-mod kit and send it
@selflessserviceful4 жыл бұрын
That "slit" in between the cylinders is a huge problem with our eco boost 4 cylinders, hopefully wont for this engine.
@PureCountryof914 жыл бұрын
They're turbo.. lots of cylinder pressure. For a low comp, low revver it's fine. But if boosted I'd worry about it..
@ProjectFairmont4 жыл бұрын
Very modular like design on the bottom, and that is muy bein!
@takayama16384 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting 446 cubic inches. I’m old. Like oil filter placement too. Whew, nerve racking music at start and end!
@alexs31874 жыл бұрын
It’s actually a 445.
@ryanhuser7744 жыл бұрын
I normally dont comment on these things but that was great content you have answered most of my questions about this block solid info all around
@revanevan4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ryan, I'm all about the detail. Much more to come.
@randysrestoration4 жыл бұрын
New engine lists for 10,226.00 plus 1500.00 core.
@revanevan4 жыл бұрын
That's probably dressed and ready to go, I guess we'll have to wait for junkyard pullouts or for Ford Performance to develop a cheaper crate version designed for swap.
@CanIbeFrank4 жыл бұрын
I'll be frequenting junk yards lol
@kylelove9274 жыл бұрын
@@CanIbeFrank Heck yeah!
@CanIbeFrank4 жыл бұрын
@@kylelove927 I'm gonna put one in a miata
@kylelove9274 жыл бұрын
@@CanIbeFrank That'd be a blast! Streetcar, dragcar, driftcar???
@repairvehicle4 жыл бұрын
coolant flow? why ford hasn't done it this way on other trucks, 6.7, 5.0, 5.4? Looks to me a design flow.
@joeschlotthauer8404 жыл бұрын
At 5:00, don't like the coolant chambers/passages hidden and contained within the front cover, I see a direct path for coolant to enter the oiling system...
@sps-vf4qq4 жыл бұрын
Need one of these in my 84 Bronco. Thanks for the great video on this, everyone has been waiting to see in detail the godzilla
@revanevan4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@David-yy7lb4 жыл бұрын
Go back to the drawing board a chain driven oil pump vs a camshaft driven oil pump like in the old days....it will be a matter of time when that chain gets slack and breaks engine loose oil psi and a blown engine....how much more would it had cost ford to design the 7.3 with a camshaft driven oil pump....its a shame that manufacturers will find a way to build a car or truck with the cheapest design possible and charge the public outrageousl prices
@prevost86864 жыл бұрын
Bullshit. Chain driven oil pumps have proven reliable on various engines for over 200K miles. It’s a truck engine designed to make all of its power at very low RPMs.
@dinosshed4 жыл бұрын
I'd much prefer a crank driven oil pump than a crank driving a cam driving a shaft of various length to drive the oil pump. It's a proven design and the oil pressure builds quicker when it's already in the oil rather than having to suck it up from the sump.
@mexital11594 жыл бұрын
Well, if that timing chain breaks you will wipe out a couple of pistons and valves. Oil pressure will be the least of your worries, plus oil pumps were driven by the distributor shaft which was driven by a gear on the cam. Yes, a solid design. But I haven't seen a distributer on an engine in a few years. And the cam was driven by a timing chain... Hey wait a second!
@buzzpedrotti54014 жыл бұрын
Some of these components look lightweight for such a powerful motor. The chains are tiny. The sprockets seem lightweight for 500 ft-lb.
@adamdodsy844 жыл бұрын
Looks similar in size to the LS stuff I'm sure it'll be fine.
@mfree802864 жыл бұрын
No auxiliary shaft off the cam... cam's not driving a distributor and oil pump, no need for extra beef. Actually thinking about it now, what on earth were manufacturers thinking putting that kind of load on a gear off a shaft drive by a chain anyways, unless it was about dampening any flutter by having a load....
@andyharman30224 жыл бұрын
What are the bearing diameters? What is the deck height?
@darrinbunston59324 жыл бұрын
I got a stupid question this engine your showing is this gas or diesel
@brianwolfe29934 жыл бұрын
Never a stupid question, this is a gasoline engine
@boblogIIIfan4 жыл бұрын
This bottom end with some sleeves , rods, pistons would be ready to send to 2000hp
@scrappyjackalope95584 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a little bit of a beefier timing chain. I like the look over all though.
@brentiaconelli64844 жыл бұрын
It's really overkill in the strength department and is only steel because its the cheapest way to get the job done. It also transfers significant harmonics to the valve train. The best timing chain available is actually a rubber belt w/ adjustable aluminum gears. the timing belt's unbelievably super thin and narrow. It's a "jesel belt drive" and costs 1500$ for a Ls. Once u see this in a 4000 hp engine your opinion on timing chain girth will change
@scrappyjackalope95584 жыл бұрын
@@brentiaconelli6484 I am familiar with a belt conversion. And no it doesnt change my opinion. I would like to see a bigger chain or double roller chain for this application. Harmonics are not a issue. Double roller chains have proven their dependability for probably trillions of miles or more. What it really boils down to is ford did the math. The can use the little chain and it will make it out of the warranty period. Then on top of the that they are going to save $15 per timing chain. Multiply that by 500,000 units and they saved 7.5 million dollars. It was one way they saved money, just like plastic valve covers, Plastic intakes thinner castings etc...
@station084 жыл бұрын
What....and a cam phaser. Does that one have a low volume pump too. GTFO
@revanevan4 жыл бұрын
Oil pump video is coming up next, be sure sure to subscribe so you don't miss it. Thanks.
@Tanner7314 жыл бұрын
this engine would look so good with Individual throttle bodies
@ydiaz80804 жыл бұрын
This engine only belongs in a truck 😂😂
@bearsendproductions18434 жыл бұрын
That timing chain is junk Can ford please spell double roller
@scoutsniper86884 жыл бұрын
That tiny timing chain will be its Achilles hill
@aaronallor96353 жыл бұрын
Will this fit into a 1969 mach 1? Not looking to ditch the shock towers. I know its smaller than a coyote but slightly bigger than a small block... was planning on a 427 Windsor stroker but this might be the way to go...
@PMCJohn2 жыл бұрын
So odd question and I know it’s been 2 years but, from the one y’all cut apart, do y’all have any of the pistons and con rods from the engine that you’d be willing to sell just one? Cause I want to make a piston & timing set clock
@Cneal834 жыл бұрын
So we got in a long bed 350 with 5 people and this engine sounds and moves so much better than 6.2 and 6.8 liters it’s pathetic can’t wait to see what the aftermarket does with these and what ford does themselves but it does look like a LS when you really look at the engine in a new truck
@brianbenson57694 жыл бұрын
Recently, Unk tony went on to say he would love to ger hidms mitts on a crat motor..... His theorem envisages a XR7 Zephyr Unk'ed out. Why not paint it primer grey m, pitch black the windows & put a skimull & crossed pistols on the1/4's & a grimacing 'ziller in trunk ^ a moving away from a scene of mAhed mopars (my old pig ain't runnin' or chevbies (,when this mill reaches crate atatus, chebby L.S will be called L.S.-low speed). Just like the desecrarmtion of many old Fords with 265's & 283's.. Maybe Ford WILL GET THE MESSAGE!!!!!!! Cannot let obama's generic do us again.... Maybe our sufferance has ended.
@nathancole98234 жыл бұрын
Why won’t they bring the excursion back? It would sell very well the SUV market is big right now I would love to see one with this 7.3l and they would be the only ones with an actual work capable diesel option.
@TheNuclearBolton4 жыл бұрын
Find a junkyard mini bus and slap this in there and put a flatbed in the rear. You could do anything with this engine.
@TheBikemaster944 жыл бұрын
Or find one from a church or moving company with the 8.1L vortec. Maybe $3500 for one that runs 👍
@tarl18122 жыл бұрын
This totally amazes me now the ford 7.3 and dodge 6.4 have great potential, Heads-block and both Forged cranks great so far yet both put shit Rods & pistons in them. I mean just how much to upgrade to Forged rods & pistons. Both use full forged in their high output Engines, and will promote these cheaper engines for use in classic and swaps, fully knowing people want to add Boost like 8-9 psi, but both are safe with 5-6 max if want reliability. I'am looking at a 250 truck either ram or f250 in gas, don't want Diesel expense but do I have to tear down a new engine just to do what both Factories should have done, actually pisses me off. What extra $1000 to put forged, my cost $5000 plus.
@diegoranchinc53894 жыл бұрын
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@frankponte4031 Жыл бұрын
I love the beefy bottom end but am skeptical about the open deck block design with the saw cuts between the cylinders. Looks very similar to the 1.2 & 2.0 Liter Ecoboost engines which have a horrendous reputation with head gasket issues. Not much meat there for good sealing. I'm also concerned about the internal coolant passages between the aluminum front cover and the cast iron block and the potential for leakage. We all know from history what happens with dissimilar metals and heat cycling.
@victorxavier99774 жыл бұрын
Love the channel Evan and all the content! I have to ask if you saw the end of MM&FF coming before it happened? Really sucks I had a subscription since 1993.
@revanevan4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I did see it coming. Really stinks though. I'll just have to keep the spirit living here. Thanks for subscribing and watching.
@CanIbeFrank4 жыл бұрын
@@revanevan mmff was my car Bible. I read all my issues several times. Hated school and barely graduated with a 2.0 GPA but ask me anything about any Mustang or Ford and I got you!
@joshturner89934 жыл бұрын
Weigh one of these please! Sick of hearing how its to heavy from people don't know the weight. Old big blocks fit mustang and weigh 700lbs this should be around 525 is my guess. That's only 75lbs heaver than coyote engine. Chevy and dodge guys fear Godzilla and they should.
@jeffschwartz51994 жыл бұрын
Hey Evan, got a question for you . Is Brian from the Detroit area? Cause that would make him, not that far from me . Sorry if I'm jumping from vid to vid, but I'm watching them all again. Obviously I'm very interested in the his take on the new 7.3 . ✌
@GnBst4 жыл бұрын
So, Ford just pulled a shanghai and copied the Chevy LS, basically bolt for bolt? I guess it's a bit of a nice departure from their last two decades where they were copying BMW. Nice try boys, I have more respect for the Windsor.
@spike6622 жыл бұрын
I'm just curious what levels the powdered rods could go to? It sucks that Ford uses them in things we want to race. I'm someone who's just curious because I'd like to know if the thing would hold up to some boost right out of the junkyard in 10 years. Or if it's going to require new rods for anything more than stock power levels.
@melspencer1890 Жыл бұрын
Wondering , like many others I'm sure , why isn't there a kickass car out there with godzilla power ? Maybe I just haven't seen it yet ?
@bradpittman50754 жыл бұрын
People going bananas on the horse power comments for the stock crank. I think he was talking about turbo. Obviously centrifugal is harder in cranks. But it’s common for oem coyote cranks, ls cranks and even Honda cranks, all of which are forged, to make big boy hp. Just bc someone may have thrown some parts together and didn’t check squat and they grenaded their stock ls or coyote crank doesn’t mean it can’t be done or isn’t done all the time by real builders. The stock forged units are very good. And the blocks now days are also very good. I forgot to mention, many gtrs out there making north of 2000 wheel use a stock crank. Anyways those pistons look like mahle power pack 26 cc units aside from the compression ring insert. I am super pumped on this engine. I think this engine with a piston and rod upgrade will be strong enough for most of us knuckle heads. Very happy to have a ford pushrod engine that you don’t need to dick around with aftermarket crank and cam sensor setups etc. Wish ford would get away from dumb coils and go to a smart coil. But that’s just bc I don’t want to buy a coil driver to use the stockers lol.
@hithereperson8137 Жыл бұрын
This engine was wholeheartedly designed to be a competitor to the LS, ford just looked at the LS market and realized people didn't like putting chevy engines in fords
@DUSaggin Жыл бұрын
this would be a great engine if it wasn't for Fords weak timing setups. plastic chain guides, chain tensioners, oil pump and dual chains. timing shouldn't have wear parts, blown timing = blown valves. engine top end rebuild if a valve doesn't punch a hole in a piston head.
@VTLIFE-so4dc4 жыл бұрын
15 PSI should make 900+ HP and 1000 Ft-lbs. Homeboy should gap the top rings and send it to Richard Holdener for a Godzilla big bang.
@leestewart36904 жыл бұрын
i would like to know about the motor mounts, we all know this motor shares the same bolt patter for the bell housing of a 4.6 and the 5.4, see I am aiming at putting a 7.3 in a 05-09 mustang, big motor little car, like my dads 70 boss 429.
@raginroadrunner Жыл бұрын
Siamese cylinders??? Where is Ford getting the guys to design this carp...some third world craphole???
@spiv_gennedy4 жыл бұрын
Liked this engine right up until I noticed the water passages to and from the water pump with mating surfaces INSIDE the oil side of the timing cover. Longevity my ass.
@johnosbourne5089 Жыл бұрын
Garbage engine i have been told by a Ford mechanic, the oil pump set up is a disaster waiting to happen, he said what would posses them to place it at the back and run by a chain, he has seen lifter, valve and cam failures at 40-50 k, he says leave it in the showroom