7 Billion Humans - Not Safe For Work

[@movingparts6270]

This is Jon's way of secretly learning how to program so he can start a new career and not have to play hours of Crusader Kings for strangers on the internet.

[@Volvith]

With the amount of unpublished modding i've done for CK2, programming and CK2 are basically the same thing for me. :| ... Also, yes, of course i have terminator teddy-bear/mylittlepony centaur events. (That's not a joke. They make the black death seem positively forgiving. :)

[@movingparts6270]

@@Volvith I've never known I needed something so much. I'd love to have MLP and other random reference shoehorned into CK2 in the most horrifying way possible.

[@ChaoticNeutralMatt]

@@Volvith I'm actually curious

[@Thundahgolem]

Jon is perhaps the best advertisement for this game, as every single messy program he makes only urges me to buy the game so I can make something less messy

[@TheHalffire]

This game is a fairly good example of theoretical multi threading. In the real world you need to imagine you have 8 puppies, and 8 food bowls. Two puppies decide to share a bowl; one is asleep; 4 of them are eating from their own bowls like you wanted; the last puppy has found a power cable and thinks it's food.

[@ChaoticNeutralMatt]

Yes

[@Lampomaniac]

And also the puppies are seperated by a wall and if they get lost on the way to their food bowl, may god be with you.

[@ebbingtime]

also you're missing 8 semicolons and the puppies won't tell you where they are

[@roccolombard965]

Jon, I may just be a hobbyist programmer, but your code efficiency (specifically your if statement nesting) is causing me physical pain.

[@Septimus_ii]

He's used to excel where you have to use horrible nesting

[@bubbadoo10]

Well even less care about your shitty comment, at least they added something interesting instead of being a dick.

[@codingfreak]

Yep, there were a few times where I thought "just let the control fall through and go from there". But then again everyone writes code with horrible control flow when they start programming.

[@leolion960]

Efficiency is like a pain, butt.. ok. I've stepped out on this moment (as i see it): "if you see no wall ahead OR you see a void in front of you - just step into it. Everything's gonna be fiiiine! WHOA? Claire, why didn't you tell me about a hole in front???"

[@KuraIthys]

It's not like the available instruction set allows anything particularly elegant. Not that anything which relies on large sections of alternate code paths is ever going to be all that elegant.

[@Rhetam]

To quote Claire: "Jon, no!"

[@ManyATrueNerd]

This all happened while she was on vacation, so she couldn't stop it :D

[@physical2564]

that needs a muhahahaaa after it Jon

[@Rush2201]

When the Claire is away the Jon will play.

[@CloakedC]

As a programmer, I am quite proud of your learning progress from all the different programming games Jon

[@mrfurious018]

As someone who knows nothing about programming Im always amazed watching him solve these pretty handily.

[@minscandboo9749]

Another programming game... This can only go well...

[@badatnamesrea5217]

Minsc And Boo and it did

[@Atropos148]

It actually went better than I expected

[@logan8638]

Hmm

[@princeamongkings343]

How is Boo doing by the by?

[@ze_rubenator]

I'm a huge fan of Human Resource Machine and other zachlikes, so naturally I bought this game literally the second it launched. Yes, literally. It's great, just like HRM, but one level of abstraction higher, so to speak. I already played about half of it. Highly recommended to anyone who likes HRM, Opus Magnum, TIS-100 or other such games. Now, to go watch Jon make the most hideous abominations of spaghetti code the world has ever seen. I even bought sweets specifically for this occasion.

[@enjoythelife1]

Jon be like: "WOW, if is amazing, it allows you to do basic logic stuff" I actually love seing him being completely amazed by stuff that are basic to be. BRILLIANT!

[@DisKorruptd]

yes, but making games about the basic logic stuff is the impressive part,

[@enjoythelife1]

Actually, I love these games and I acknowledge those are nor simple for every body. The game is impressive and takes a lot of work to put up. But it is still funny to see how Jon sees some basic programming concept like if statements and gets all exited while I take it for granted. It is amazing and fun. The game is impressing, and Jon is awesome.

[@robingrimm3443]

I was so irritated when I played Human Resources because there was no ‘if’ function

[@entropiCCycles]

I mean, they did introduce a "jump if zero" partway through.

[@enjoythelife1]

@@entropiCCycles actually, I realize Human Resources was assembly like, but 7 billion humans us actually higher level(c, java, ...)

[@Blubb3rbub]

Soo... you excel at Excel?

[@maximthemagnificent]

Friend's eleven-year-old went to Lego robot camp this Summer and perhaps this (or the first one) might make a good next step for them.

[@AndreiTache]

I don’t really recommend the first one unless they are really good at math. (I still really enjoyed it though, and this one looks just as fun, except you don’t need a Ph. D to play :D )

[@Toylore]

This is very challenging to watch as an actual programmer.

[@totalmetaljacket789]

Seconded.

[@nialltownley1788]

Painful indeed

[@alexandereastwood1]

I disagree he did very well with his code, and came up with interesting ways to solve the problems, it even if I knew a better way his weren't that bad. Disclaimer: I like teaching code, and I like seeing bad code work...I am strange that way.

[@fuzzymurdermittens]

The part that hurt me was all the unnecessary Jump statements. So many unnecessary Jump statements...

[@sinomirneja771]

His logic hurts my head! I would do all the nested loops, ... , differently! He starts from the inner loop and the makes the outer loop start within the inner loop! If you are confused, you can empathize with me!

[@athath2010]

30:05 The issue that happened there was that you used an OR command, not an AND command. So, if the thing below the person was either not a wall OR not a void, the person would walk down. Since voids aren't walls, the first condition ("not a wall") was satisfied (and so was the if statement).

[@TheCarrot11]

"They are replaceable, there are 7 Billion of them." Someone has the mindset of an American business owner to their workers, good on ya Jon! :)

[@shawncat]

So... It's just a jump to the left - and the a step to the right. Hmm, still needs a hips, knees and thrust command.

[@MW-pb2gf]

Put your left foot in, your left foot out, your left foot in, and shake it all about; do the hokey pokey and turn yourself around...

[@Jennikiko]

I see you're a transsexual transvestite from Transylvania.

[@shawncat]

On my off days.

[@xenxander]

Step left, around, and together with the right.

[@amyaurion]

I'm going to send this to my brother, he's an actual programmer. I feel like this will bring him "joy".

[@jesuschristonabike8878]

I absolutely love these games, the creators manage to make such great ambience.

[@liaminfinitelogik9082]

after all these years I've watched KZbin videos you are defo my favourite one ..

[@ShadowViewsOnly]

The Pickup command has a direction too! :) Stepping down, picking up from below, stepping up... Geeezz... :D Also those jumps to next line of code.... :D

[@elias_hi]

After watching this, I feel like eating spaghetti.. hmmm

[@drezhb]

Your code is awful. I love it :D

[@xenxander]

You should do the challenges that say 'do in so many lines of code' or 'do in so many number of seconds'. That's why we have three tabs for programs per challenge :3 A do - loop while command set would make some of these challenges so much easier.

[@biscuit715]

Jons inefficient programming really helps me feel better about mine

[@benwhite5042]

7 billion humans - "Oh God, not the nesting"

[@Swift_The_Leapzard]

*Insert Little Inferno song here*

[@eyesaac965]

You should play little inferno, it’s made by the same people and has the same style

[@MikaAndrianoelison]

cool game, are they the same guys that did world of goo? (same-ish characters style and UI fonts) :D

[@johnhenderson4833]

Same guys that did little inferno, world of goo and human resource machine. They also have the most terrifying company name possible.

[@bubbadoo10]

What's terrifying about the company name for the developers, lol? They went by 2DBOY with World of Goo and then Tomorrow Corporation with Little Inferno and beyond. I don't really see either as a terrifying name, 2DBOY is pretty not scary and Tomorrow Corporation is just like a little jab that goes hand in hand with their stories that are kind of anti.. would it be anti capitalism or just like anti business/corporation? I guess more the latter, as it tends to be a story against more greedy business types fucking up everything. Hopefully you know what I mean though, they have had that type of story since World of Goo.

[@johnhenderson4833]

I see that jab as creepy, though I know they mean absolutely nothing by it. just "The corporation of tomorrow" fills me with suspicion.

[@TYKUHN2]

Hey Jon. A hole isn't a wall. Which means the statement "The hole below me is either not a wall or not a hole" is true

[@Davy-yg4jl]

A floor is not a wall either

[@AlphaHawk115]

Human research machine would have been infinitely easier with if statements.

[@markdfox]

Human Research Machine felt like an approximation of assembly, where this has more of a C vibe

[@asj3419]

C with gotos *everywhere*.

[@ze_rubenator]

There were two if statements in HRM, if zero and if negative. Without them it would have been quite a dull game.

[@markdfox]

I think I've only had to use goto once in the entire time I've been working with C... and I still feel dirty about it to this day

[@KuraIthys]

I can't think of any good reason to use a goto in C... Basic maybe, but even then only the most ancient variants.

[@SangoProductions213]

12:41 As a programmer, I find your structure utterly indefensible, and demand you pretty it up. *Goes back to working with COBOL* *Cries himself to sleep*

[@KuraIthys]

As a game engine programmer working with retro hardware, I drink the tears of coding purists. I need more speed, dammit! Screw the consequences!

[@pale2457]

The music is incredibly depressing and hopeless, it fits the theme really well.

[@theobrill5161]

Jon, you do not need that many jumps when you have else commands, it'll automatically run through all the ifs, and then you can jump back to the start of the code, especially when you have a jump command not actually jumping whatsoever, and actually just going to the next logical step

[@origulator]

...should've called it "Not safe *from* work" tbh

[@sander_bouwhuis]

Despite all the comments about the 'poor programming skills', I think you actually did very well for a non-developer. If you have never been taught programming paradigms and are not used to dealing with performance and optimization issues it's probably quite difficult to come up with better/succinct code. Thumbs up for the video!

[@Alluvian567]

After an if statement runs, the code moves on to the next line. You never need all that identical code at the end of every branch. Just put that outside of and after the if statement.

[@polishenglish8356]

Daaamn, you truly understand programming! :O

[@AsamiImako]

I really hope this is sarcasm

[@dragonjaw95]

Might be better solution for 44:40 1: Step down 1 2: pick up from 13 3: if left = hole 4: step down Taget from 10 5: if right = wall or right = person 6: drop 7: end 8: else 9: step right 10: jump 11: else 12: step left 13: jump

[@Rateus_Johanson]

"My solution is slower, but with less death" Jon must've recorded this video on opposite day... "Everyone does a little dance, just some busy work to keep them out of the way" Jon are you in my companies middle management on the sly?

[@dpwellman]

I just bought the game on the strength (or lack thereof) of this upload. Worked through tp year 20 in a couple hours, Hint for those going for challenges: Lines of code and execution time are often exclusive of each other: fast code is not necessarily elegant and vice versa. The reverse kicked my butt. Been doing OO too long.

[@skele3310]

I love how this game calls out corporations for wanting increased productivity by sacrificing their workers (not always literally in real life but the point still stands)

[@KurosakiYukigo]

Oh boy, I can't wait to play this one

[@mandymaclean1055]

"omg the sequel to HRM?? Yes! ... wait... Jon's code breaks me... I'll just buy the game and play it myself"

[@robingrimm3443]

As a programming child of a programmer who, admittedly, likes redundancy (idiot-proof code) - your code caused me physical pain. It is interesting seeing your line of thought, but the times where I could see your problem before you (the woman who walked into a hole was because you used an OR statement, and there wasn’t a wall so she could walk there - some variant of (if wall OR hole then walk right else down) would have likely fixed the problem) were both interesting and infuriating. Glad you enjoyed it tho!

[@jedimastersterling1]

I'm very glad I don't have to refactor your code.

[@KurosakiYukigo]

25:12 Jeez Jon! A bit on the nose with the "humans are expendible" joke from earlier.

[@thijs3666]

What a amazing video! Please can you make more video's of this?

[@argonaut4063]

If this game features a statemachiene, it's an instant buy for me. Statemachienes are awesome!

[@keisukebajipup4072]

Hopefully you start a series it’ll probably take like 4 episode but it will be fun to watch your mishaps.

[@BRUXXUS]

For that sequence reversal program, I think a follow the leader style thing would work better?

[@toniocartonio708]

i love how similar that is to C++

[@alexkantor8238]

So we've gone up a bit. HRM seemed like it was just assembly code, with just add, subtract, compare. Now we have IFs and such

[@MulleDK19]

30:02 The reason it failed, is because it should have been AND not OR.

[@atlvol]

Holy redundant jumps Batman!

[@andymci3246]

awesome! i got the advert for Dr Byke de amsterdamse fietsenmaker

[@hephaestus5964]

As an amateur coder this gives me physical pain

[@GldnClaw]

If programming problems were this easy to see and overcome, then I should get into it then.

[@John-uw2je]

They are, but its when you make pages of code and algorithms that you start to tear out your hair. Having to parse thousands of lines, to find that reason for the entire thing not working. AND when you have to type EVERYTHING out, and make sure you put the right amount of spaces, or else the entire thing is invalid.

[@FlyGirl774]

7 Billion Humans is the Sequel to Human Resource Machine is a prequel to Little Inferno and that is a sequel to the world of goo

[@kdog290]

This teaches bad programming. The jumps are the beginning of spaghetti code. Still enjoyable to watch.

[@edward9487]

30:30 My god. Sets it to does not equal and thinks it's equal to.

[@Xenotric]

needed more indirect steps

[@tetsubo57]

I wonder if Jon and Claire have the same definition of 'sexy'.

[@reallybadmeme2838]

The goto label is making me cry

[@danielemessina1979]

18:25 you just need a single jump/loop at the end

[@alexandersvanes453]

Jon STOP, Claire said NO

[@cyansius3950]

Number 3: Can't you just get rid of the else?

[@SLKibara]

Oh God Jon NO! What will Claire think?

[@terrrario1014]

"Jon No!"

[@chiefmaggot360]

I thought this was gonna be a simcity esque game. Oh well still fun

[@matcat4]

i have not purchased a game so fast in a long time ... curse you jon

[@CommissarMitch]

Question. Are the guys who made this behind World of Goo?

[@malikhawkins6118]

Mike Fluff yep.

[@ammararran4916]

OMG!! you make programming so complicated man!! it is not that complicated but jon apparently love to do the complicated way.

[@nahco3994]

This game is a perfect example of why the goto statement is so heavily frowned upon in C/C++

[@macoud12]

I should get this game.

[@AndreiTache]

I *NEED* this in my life now!! Just really hoped they’d release it for mobile... Loved the concept of human resource machine but found the puzzles to be too math-related (I’m horrible at math), so this game looks like GOTY material for me :)

[@FairHavenFire28]

Jon.. at end of an if test it will automatically kick you out to the end you don't need 400 jump statements. Being a programmer watching you play this hurts my heart.

[@numbers3268]

I'm not much of a programmer but I know that some of those codes are horribly messy just by looking at the sheer amount of goto-equivalents.

[@BrknSoul]

44:51 couldn't they simply remain in place and takefrom down-left?

[@asdfgyjhvj7881]

This seems like it will be very... enjoyable...

[@quma2590]

You should try Arma 3.

[@Silverhawk100]

Suddenly we have come to world of C

[@davidjames4890]

What next? A PowerPoint tutorial?

[@humantryh4832]

Yes

[@katiepotatie1615]

David James 400k subscriber special perhaps 😁

[@Atropos148]

I would like to see that from Jon, yes

[@georgetaylor100]

is this a good way of learning basic code?

[@Alluvian567]

Does this game have active steam workshop support? Human resource machine was fun, but way too easy. User made levels would have been awesome in that.

[@thomasmiller8289]

For the code you had to fix: Have a think about what Or does vs. And :)

[@CommissarMitch]

Is this the prequel to They Are Billions?

[@T--xo2uq]

With your magnificent Excell skills, you could get a better paying job at a scientific company examining huge amounts of data. Just putting that out there, someone's got to make sense of numbers.

[@Sannoso]

Unfortunately analyzing large sets of data is beyond the capabilities of Excel. He would need experience with MapReduce or Hadoop and probably basic machine learning as well. Statistics has come quite a long way!

[@ZechsMerquise73]

I would recommend Hadoop, because it's fun to say.

[@EVERSMAN42]

I feel like I am at work

[@MitchellGardnerAngryMonkey]

Thank God for my shooters... Lol !

[@Blewlongmun]

Aww it's the art style of Little Inferno.

[@ollyclass]

It's the same people who made it.

[@Blewlongmun]

I assumed, I just love the art style and forgot about it.

[@T--xo2uq]

Also world of Goo.

[@ze_rubenator]

Also the predecessor to this, Human Resource Machine.

[@aligallaton3978]

Jon should do a video when he tries scratch

[@mymy-nv4er]

Yes!

[@theminer3746]

This is why you shouldn’t use goto statement.

[@YesMan_Lucky38]

My head hurts

[@ChimeratAlpha]

*jaw drops* Okay. Less than a minute in, and I'm already hoping they've made steps to release the DRM-free build. EDIT: Yes, GOG has it, though at nearly $20 Canadian... I'll wait for a sale. I already have Human Resource Machine, so the "incentive" is useless.

[@tigrecito48]

i came up with the idea years ago that companies that have people working on computers in offices should turn all work into games... an APP... imagine if instead of boringly entering data all day on spreadsheets, you play a farming game collecting stuff but the programming to that game does the same thing that would have happened if you'd been programming a spreadsheet or c++ software or something? so all the person is doing is farming, growing crops and spending hours do fun things that dont use their brains (but that people happily do for hours and hours in their own time) - and imagine if such work software games provided them with in game benefits for doing their jobs faster (ie farming/grinding) you get better clothing for your character, better stats etc etc.. wouldnt these ways make people more productive and work faster? just think of the amount of hours people spend grinding for resources in games like fo76... if that was your job.. but everything you did in the game was actually producing something.. making profit for a business... now wouldnt that be great?

[@FatalKitsune]

*Looks at the game Jon is playing* God help us all.

[@Rap7OrZ]

Ow, hell nah, this will fry my brain

[@chronosschiron]

john i was dong this on a commodore vic -20 in 1980...i was 12....in fact even mad emy own database software so i could use it with all my games i made

[@ChaoticNeutralMatt]

You don't need to loop.. everything. Or jump.. everywhere

[@ChaoticNeutralMatt]

Grr thus makes me want to buy this to simplify his code

[@samjackmartin]

I NEED TO BUY THIS GAME NOW JON SO I CAN FIX ALL YOUR CODE.

[@tach5884]

I've bought a few games for reasons like this : \

[@cadefreer6118]

I guessed before this video it would go terrible