7 Days To Die - Vehicle Fuel Efficiency - Which Vehicle Is Best? (Alpha 19)

[@Dosbomber]

Good timing on this video. In my current A19 playthrough, I finally got a minibike (on day 13-14.. ugh). Just having a vehicle, ANY vehicle, makes the game so much more playable. I always HATE that first week or so, having to walk/run everywhere, dealing with stamina, inventory limitations, encumbrance, and horrible slowness.

[@asevrinx]

My father and I were debating this last night. We rode side by side on our mini bikes, him not using the shift key and I using the shift key to see who was running out of gas first. Thanks for sharing!

[@capp00]

Hope I helped you win the argument :)

[@mrsheeple3930]

I KNEW that damn trader was lying about the MPG of the truck. This proves it.

[@vyrankthequiet6093]

Although the 4x4 has two people being carried with it. That doubles the efficiency for fuel usage

[@pbsixgun6]

That's assuming you don't play solo though.

[@vassoritzen]

Agree!

[@soundslave]

Need friends first

[@pbsixgun6]

The best combo is a gyrocopter for getting to new towns and minibike for tooling around said town for mapping good POI's and then looting said POI's. Being able to go STRAIGHT without having to deal with rugged terrain, trees, hills/mountains is QoL...and lets you take back a decent amount of loot when done each day. You could even leave the minibike in that town until you are done looting everything you want to loot there.

[@jarlgawain8876]

Well done cap. I did these tests myself back in A18, the results look about the same. I found the Motorcycle the best combo of speed, fuel cost, and carry capacity. That's the one I use all the time now. I'd send you my spreadsheet, but I don't think youtube supports that file type.

[@thephoenix8739]

Well that just proves for me that me using the minibike for an extended time in game isn’t as crazy as my friends think! I rarely ever upgrade beyond it. Thanks for investigating!

[@capp00]

Same here. Got chastised in the comments by how long it took me to make one in the last lone survivor series. well, turns out I had good reason lol

[@thephoenix8739]

I think it also has a lot to do with how long you’ve played 7d2d. I started in Alpha 14. People don’t get that this game was primarily on foot unless you found Minibikes for Dummies, which was like finding the holy grail. So I never would knock anyone who didn’t want to make vehicles ASAP.

[@attackanddestroy]

I agree. Save all the extra gas for Molotov's.

[@thephoenix8739]

Attack & Destroy exactly!!!

[@picklep3076]

If traveling flat , straight roads i agree with your results. Depending on terrain the gyrocopters could be way more efficient. As for fuel efficiency. Once you can make the motorcycle, jeep and gyrocopters. Fuel in the current build isn't an issue.

[@yissnakklives8866]

Now the question that needs answering is - if we bump up the speeds in the XML file, what does that do to fuel usage....:)

[@alanea5860]

it works on distance / fuel so speed doesnt matter at all

[@yissnakklives8866]

@@alanea5860 figured it was something like that :)

[@sarahnachtrose]

Thanks for the video (I know how much time and work there is in it, the common consumer likes to forget that (or doesn't even know)). That was really interesting. So especially at the beginning, if you don't have a stable fuel supply yet, the minibike is the choice. I would be interested in the cross-country mobility. 4 players look for a start and end point across the map and then see who will arrive first. I always quarrel between the truck and the motorcycle. The truck seems to be faster and can carry more, but the motorcycle is more likely to get through wherever the truck gets stuck.

[@burning_cities]

Interesting, so Turbo on the minibike takes you as far, for the same amount of gas, as a non turbo motorcycle... and both take about the same time (33 in game minutes). I say go Motorcycle and keep you finger off the shift, more storage and less frequent fill ups.

[@ssnpixie]

I think the great all rounder is the motorcycle, in early days ... take a wrench or ratchet in your inventory and take apart cars to get gas, if chem station unlocked ... go get you some oil shale!! the storage + speed = awesome! also you look cool to boot!

[@capp00]

yeah, the motorcycle is a good balance for sure.

[@kevinwallis2194]

a large part of which one to use is speed. If theres no hurry, the minibike would be best. I will always use the bike over anything, because the sound of the motor relaxes me.

[@errolmorris6135]

Thank you so much for this. I will now use the mini bike for all my exploration at night.

[@scarletkitty4826]

have found in my gameplay that the jeep handles some of the rougher terrain better - since i often play with my bf, we load the motorcycle into the jeep until inventory fills up, then pull it out and keep looting until both are full. it's interesting to see the gas mileage, tho haven't had issues since vehicles make it easier to get places that have more gas

[@VeganGorilla555]

Cool test! It's pretty much what I expected. I never did build the truck and went from the motorcycle to the gyro copter. I think the gyro copter is too awkward to use as a main vehicle so I pretty much just stick with the motorcycle.

[@TizonaAmanthia]

This is great info, exactly what I was looking for! what I would have loved would be a Race. like..full tank, fixed duration, and Turbo/no turbo race to the finish line. gyro...landing optional. heh.

[@Peonforlife]

Awesome vid! That really confirms what I suspected. It will take much more time but I'd love to see which has the longest range at a full tank.

[@izaacwallis8619]

mini bike is good for scouting, i tend to use the 4x4 as a mobile base, couple of turrets, a generator and a land claim block and your good to go for quite a while

[@lorgrenbenirus]

These vehicles have very different settings indeed, for example: Gyrocopter: "fuelKmPerL" value="0.15" Minibike: "fuelKmPerL" value=".4" Motocycle: "fuelKmPerL" value=".2" 4x4: "fuelKmPerL" value=".1" Car being the worst when it comes to efficiency, but packing at the same time most of inventory space and can carry two people at the same time. Bike somewhere in middle but has the best speed. Gyrocopter has worse efficiency when I thought at first, but the bonus is it can just go over everything so it can technically still take one pretty far. And minibike, good old classic and most efficient. But yeah, numbers are boring, actual test is more fun and informative :) And your test reflects these values practically to a point. Thanks for that.

[@insidethelyrics]

Great test!

[@mrwallygator501]

I really like these testing videos.

[@capp00]

Thank you!

[@rubikmonat6589]

Thanks for the work you put into this. It's fantastic.

[@applefunk9905]

Great info!👍

[@streamdungeon5166]

Very useful video!

[@jackmyowl]

Alright Capp00, I have a hoard day challenge for you. Try and Survive while in each one of those vehicles while driving around, what could go wrong...

[@davidodonovan1699]

Remember to press: "E" to exit you gyrocopter, when at maximum altitude. Darwin Awards competition must have plenty of entries. 😊👍 I'm joking. Great video Capp00. It's great to find these things out. Thanks Capp00.

[@karabou1432]

Poor @Jawoodle lol

[@davidodonovan1699]

@@karabou1432 yeah. 😊👍💚

[@FranticDan]

@@davidodonovan1699 good thing I got some Oh Shitz Drops!

[@davidodonovan1699]

@@FranticDan 😀👍💙

[@CODGODS11]

Thanks for another awesome video. It looks like the motorcycle is the best overall.

[@christinahankins4114]

So... explore with the minibike, take a motorcycle or jeep in the inventory, when you load up on loot pull out the bigger inventory vehicle and get home with all the loot. Gotcha. :D

[@darkstar1980]

I've found that once you find some oil deposits fuel efficiency becomes irrelevant. Gas is so easy to make.

[@Elmoriel.]

Great video! I for one was very excited to see a Capp test video! And I hope that when they finally leave alpha, you will consider a whole new testing series because these videos are darn useful! Despite the fact that you didn't use paint for your start line or include the storage capacity in your fuel efficiency test. 🙄 Love you Capp!

[@capp00]

Thanks Shannon

[@LagunaFox]

I mean... the inventory space also factors into the fuel efficiency of the vehicle as well because the one thing you didn't test was if you had say a full storage chest (I make those and set them up outside of POI's as drop chests all the time) and you need to transfer all of those items back to your base say 1.8km away but your inventory is full, then obviously you have to use the vehicles storage space. Minibike having the smallest storage space means you will need to take the most trips back and forth to move all those items, which basically negates the advantage it has in terms of fuel used per distance traveled.

[@capp00]

Storage doesnt affect vehicle speed or other stats

[@LagunaFox]

@@capp00 Storage effects number of trips necessary to haul all your loot. Minibike isn't the most efficient vehicle if it takes 2 trips to haul loot instead of only 1 trip with a motorcycle for example. Sorry this is so late, used to doing this on my phone and I never got a notification about your reply on there.

[@chad134]

Thanks for the really great content! I've been wanting to know this. I would like to have also seen the gyro tested with the hold C and space at the same time bug being exploited.

[@tyraelpl]

If you press space and hold to long enough for the vehicle to stop and exit it like that it will stay still even on an up or downhill slope.

[@thealicemonster9217]

Thanks for this :)

[@capp00]

No Prob

[@sadisticangel16]

I'mma still hold down the shit button in the truck, I'm super impatient lol

[@capp00]

Same, 100% same.

[@Nightmaaron]

Great video Capp!

[@capp00]

Thank you!

[@vernonhall6939]

your vids are always helpful Capp00

[@capp00]

Thanks man :)

[@officialstarfish2296]

I think the bicycle is the most fuel efficient though

[@C0d0ps]

@cap00 there is a handle/parking break to the 4x4 truck. Glock taught me that

[@nellywilde1911]

I think it's awesome that you still do the testing videos and messing with the XM:. You don't see this much on YT, well I don't know anyone else. So the carrying capacity is the only good part of getting the 4X4 and being able to make your own gas. I personally don't like the way it drives. I stick with the minibike or motorcycle as my preferred.

[@mousegirl6817]

Very interesting test! Motorcycle will always be my vehicle of choice because it’s so much fun to drive!

[@capp00]

And it's the fastest too.

[@GwenHembrock]

LOL, I still like the truck! And motorcycle with turbo! The minibike is what I expected. A great little vehicle if you don't have excess gas and/or nostalgia for 16.4 when minibike was the thing. Fun test.

[@hiddentruth1982]

huh. I knew the minibike was the most fuel efficient due to travel speed relating to motor size but I didn't realize the truck was that much of a gas hog.

[@InTheWrongTimeline]

They aren't actually far off. Most mopeds get ~100 mpg, motorcycles generally get around 50mpg, jeeps and similar vehicles get around 25.... not sure about gyrocopters. I think they should half the moped storage (that blue cart is worthless...) and double the jeep storage, but it's all good enough.

[@belladivine7944]

When I do solo runs I use the mini bike... My husband uses the motorcycle. When we do raids together we use the truck. I like the mini bike 👍👍.

[@alanea5860]

2 motorcycles = same fuel usage and space as truck ....and far less clumsy

[@belladivine7944]

@@alanea5860 yea, we have 2 motorcycles, truck and the mini bike... we have 2 other people playing with us too.

[@dphalanx7465]

Sounds like they need to introduce a Horse--faster than the Bike, slower than the Motor Vehicles. Feeds itself off of the land; carries somewhere between the Minibike & Motorcycle. Only serious Con is that Zombies will try to eat it, LOL. (Also, it might get sick occasionally, and you'll have to doctor it.)

[@Dezil]

Appreciate you doing these vids my man, handing out that knowledge, good stuff

[@Greenmarty]

Might be just a feeling but flying gyro by tapping gas at slow pace just to barely stay in air seems to save fuel.

[@CampamentoUL]

If you brake with the 4x4 you can park it in hills and stuff, i find it useful

[@clarkkent1521]

I spent two days in an oil shale mine and have nearly one million gas cans. I'll never worry about gas.

[@mitchellkrever421]

Thanks for this! I bought a motorcycle but im thinking of switching cause I dont have gas tank unlocked and im thinking of buying the minibike till I can get gas up and running

[@patthompson1761]

The scientist in me approves! Although a true test should be done in triplicate to allow for standard deviation and means. Well done though.

[@capp00]

Actually did test it twice off camera, just to make sure I didn't need to show deviations in results. They were the same :)

[@patthompson1761]

@@capp00 my man!

[@rachdarastrix5251]

You know what this game needs is a 90mm RPG fired from a mortar cannon using 7 bags of gunpowder. That should be enough to bring bears and mountain lions down to 20% health in 1 shot.

[@armandoblanco-naranjo1208]

Hope you're havin' a good day Capp

[@capp00]

I am, and I hope you are too.

[@juststeve8286]

Nice. Never thought of this test.

[@mightymaxx1]

Awesome video and very informative. This will actually influence my gameplay. There's another 7 days youtuber I like a lot called Reach Gaming. I'd love to see a collab. They are a bit smaller than you, but have a similar vibe. Thanks Capp.

[@capp00]

I know Reach. Good people. Challenge with collabs with them is time. My recording time is like 4am where they live. lol

[@mightymaxx1]

@@capp00 I'll ask them to take naps. A collab would be too fun to pass up. I deal with a similar issue arranging game time with a friend from Norway. Naps is the answer...lol. Thanks for the reply. Keep up the great content. Good Stuff.

[@AvidusReader]

Would love to see how far you can get in a set period of time for each vehicle.

[@capp00]

Might make for a good follow-up video.

[@jefo2405]

Thanks! Suggestion: Fuel efficiency according to storage size. How much gas does it take the mb and bc to haul one truck load from a to b times the amount of times you have to go back to get the rest. Or something line that.

[@DrZaius3141]

4x4 has 81 vs 36 (mc) and 27 (mb). So it's MB > 4x4 > MC > Gyro. If you now consider how much it would annoy you to travel 3 times with the MB to haul the same stuff as one time with the 4x4, as well as the fact that the truck is the fastest vehicle in the game (if you use the saved time to mine oil shale, you're coming out well on top^^), there shouldn't be any doubt as to which vehicle is the best in almost all situations. Heck, even if you want to travel long distances (which could make the Gyro more appealing according to Capp, the small trunk is just prohibitive. You should always get a minibike early and once you can have a crucible (and thus steel), go for the 4x4.

[@navneetsingh6317]

Super informative 👌

[@nmkurian]

Great video.

[@HubbaBubbaD]

Something I noticed now but never noticed playing the game was that just getting on a vehicle takes 1% of your gas immediately...

[@LagunaFox]

It doesn't actually, the game simply displays the gas % as a rounded value and rounds down. For example with the truck 100 gas gives you 1% of the tank, but as soon as you use even 1 unit of gas that % will drop below 1% to 0.99% and thus the game display rounds that down to 0%. So it isn't using a whole % (or 100 gas in the trucks case) as soon as you get on it just uses a unit of gas immediately and thus if you were right on the threshold of any of the % values then the game display will show the % going down immediately.

[@harleytutor]

What about distance tracked on full tank? The Jeep holds the most fuel, but is the least efficient on gas. Will they all travel the same distance on a full tank? Does the efficiency and tank size even out.

[@skug978]

If you saved the test, it'd be good to load it up again and test mini-bike and motorcycle with turbo-tapping (pressing the turbo button once per 1 or 2 seconds, continuously) and compare that distance too.

[@TheWowX]

I wonder if anything changed with Alpha 20

[@mattisandersson9661]

in the turbo test the gyro did better then the motorbike, but in you summery you said that both tests had the vehicles in the same order

[@foxsquirrelgaming2463]

Fuel consumption is terrible on all the vehicles. It seems to have changed in alpha 19 to consume more fuel. I find myself fueling vehicles more frequently in this alpha.

[@1969chgoodwin]

Capp with the mod slots in the motorcycle etc. have the fun pimps ever said about having any to put in them ( larger fuel tank, weapons etc)

[@capp00]

Yeah, they are definitely planning on adding some, we just don't know when.

[@guywithjeep]

Alpha 20 is supposed to have vehicle updates

[@gamingwithsmokeydan]

@Capp00 Guessing this was already said but can't be asked to search through the comments, Did you check or have plans to find out the distance covered with a full tank in each vehicle? I know they all hold different amounts but would also help to know if when running on full if the results change. Also great work and thanks for uploading this video.

[@obuw1]

It would take some very basic math to deduce that from the information in the video. If minibike goes 4x km with 10% fuel, it goes 40x km with a full tank. Motorcycle goes 2x km with 3.3% fuel, so it goes 60x km with a full tank. 4x4 goes 1x km with 1% fuel, so it goes 100x km with a full tank.

[@brandonguillory242]

great video sir

[@billyjack5463]

I really think they should change the chopper in it game, up and down so we can build a pad on the roof of are building

[@drewdatification]

Can't recall if you mentioned this in the video but does a fully encumbered vehicle make a difference in the distance traveled? Would the trip be even shorter?

[@matty64aaron31]

Can you do a fall damage test with all the types of boots and the fall damage prevention upgrade on them

[@victorhyman9715]

Try it with the gyrocopter holding down space and c at the same time.

[@saltyshellback]

SCIENCE BABY!!!

[@raisinggrainwoodworking]

My question is what does fuel efficiency really matter? I went on one mining run and grabbed a few full stacks of oil shale somewhere around day 10 and now I'm approaching day 100 and with the help of breaking down cars my half storage box of fuel has only dropped 2 stacks and I only use shift when driving. Fuel efficiency is inconsequential.

[@capp00]

Depends on how you play. If you're doing a wasteland only series like, or a snow-only biome, you don't find shale like that, so you have to rely on learning how to make it (late-game) or spend time breaking cars down.

[@BrokenCans]

Good video. I knew it was bad on gas, but my word, the 4x4 is just awful. Kinda like real ilfe :-) Usually (when possible) I explore using the Gyro but bring a 4x4 along in storage, then loot everyhing and return to base in the 4x4. Now the fun part will be waiting for some sweaty tryhard to come around, watch the video, and tell you how you did everything wrong. :-)

[@capp00]

That's the part I wait for most :)

[@jameswatsonatheistgamer]

I use the 4x4 just to annoy the liberal eco warriors. The same thing applies in the game. The rosie o'donnel zombie is furious.

[@fredjung]

In my A18 coop game with my 3 brothers, i rode my bike with a 4x4 in my pocket. Eventually I built a gyrocoptor for my brother, but A19 experimental started. Now we started over.

[@alanea5860]

yo be honest its fine for looy run in big city near your base .... but thats all

[@schuttrostig5729]

If you are 2 people on the server the truck has double efficiancy :)

[@RubyMorton]

Nice!

[@sparrowhawk6484]

But darn it Capp0 the answer is obvious.. its the bicycle.

[@sparrowhawk6484]

Oh wait... in A19 you run out of food and die after about 100 yds of pedaling.

[@capp00]

Yeah, we are players are very fuel inefficient lol

[@MrZombieexpert29]

A better way to test fuel efficiency is by factoring in vehicle storage space. Which vehicle will allow you to store the most loot while also getting the most out of your fuel capacity? If you you have to take multiple trips to get all the items you've looted, which vehicle will let you take the least amount of trips in a timely manner?

[@capp00]

That's a test I don't want to do lol

[@MrZombieexpert29]

@@capp00 Just a thought. Wish I could play 7 Days 2 Die, I don't have a computer to play it on though.

[@redefv]

We need a Riply loader exo suit.

[@capp00]

Hell yes we do!

[@sevendaggerssix7298]

Jawoodle c/space bar tricks need testing

[@anthonyboley5066]

Interesting nice to see this

[@toysoldier46552]

I'm going with the bicycle being the most fuel efficient lol.

[@capp00]

I dunno, in A19, you run out of food and water fast! Thinking you will peddle yourself to death lol

[@toysoldier46552]

@@capp00 Naaa, just fill er up with canned food :P

[@bretthenderson2759]

@@toysoldier46552 You have to use cat food for something...

[@toysoldier46552]

@@bretthenderson2759 Hahaha

[@sapphyrus]

@@capp00 Exactly, I’m starving all the time while sitting on a mountain of gas cans. It’s easier to gather gas than food.

[@jackmyowl]

I envy all 7 Days To Die PC players... Still love watching & living vicariously through all the PC 7DTD KZbinrs...

[@markbaken84]

Not everyone has the money, nor the space. Myself running 8x3ghz i7, 12gig ram 11years old both. And 2 years ago bought a 1060 6gb second hand and win 10 on ssd. Cant play it on max setting without getting lag and at some point 1fps (horde night). But I make due.

[@rushbcykablyat1792]

Just join us pc master race, you non-pc infidel!

[@zanaros2606]

@@markbaken84 Still better than mine, lol. I play on lowest setting but are very used to it now.

[@jackmyowl]

@@rushbcykablyat1792 *AUTISTIC SCREECHING*

[@MrBunni]

That was actually a very impressive experiment. Well thought out and nicely executed. I am not surprised about the results though. However, I AM surprised you did not mention the caveat that is the gyro's next-to-nil-fuel-use turbo boost.

[@mithryanna]

Can the truck carry multiple passengers? (I haven't gotten far enough with friends to try it yet!) And if so, do passengers affect gas consumption?

[@sonnygulisao1887]

Curious to see how fast the mini bike w/ turbo is compared to the motorcycle w/o turbo.

[@jessd.1983]

Could you please do a test of the current A19 loot system and how loot bonuses work (i.e. perks, goggles, eye kandy)? Do bonuses affect loot type, quantity, quality, rarity? If im looting Crack a Book, will loot bonuses mean i get MORE books, or just rarer books, or both?

[@capp00]

Man, you want to see me dig deep into the code huh :)

[@jessd.1983]

@@capp00 lol, Yes! You're the guy for the job!

[@redefv]

Has the motorcycle always gone faster when you hold down shift?

[@GamingwithGameChannel]

Thanks for all of the work that went into this! However for me I’m wondering speed vs this fuel efficiency since covering X amount of miles faster does weigh in here. Otherwise we would never leave the mini bike.

[@justin.s9783]

cool. really good test, MPP= Miles per Pixel. lol. The motorcycle seems to be the all around best choice if you only could have one . like a challenge or something. though having a 4x4 for major hauling with a mini as a small raid or everyday travel would be good. im surprised you didn't do a speed test though with lag and frame rate results would vary.

[@Darkness_Embraced]

I still love the truck even if it's loud enough to wake the dead. lol

[@capp00]

I like it too, just guzzles gas like a champ.

[@roryduguay3726]

That makes sense. But I still like to fly in this game

[@bzebarth]

The disappearing and reappearing trees was kind of odd. Did you have to redo parts of this later after cutting trees down? But the most important question is, does anyone not just hold shift down the whole time they are driving? I don't think I've ever driven any of these without holding shift the entire time.

[@capp00]

No, I teleported back to the starting line each time, which can cause pop-in of textures and stuff.

[@Elmoriel.]

Depends on the terrain and my frame rate ;)

[@ryanhibbard5478]

Thanks for doing this! Hey, do you know what setting I have on that gives me double copies of each looted book and recipe I loot? It’s kind of annoying. Thanks!

[@henrymca]

You probably have loot settings at 200%

[@pbsixgun6]

@@henrymca Even 150% can do that.

[@navneetsingh6317]

Today we'll talk about fuel efficiency 🤣🤣 Btw nice video

[@capp00]

Thank you and I'm having a great day. I hope you are too.

[@kevinlamke4163]

that starting line probably would have been better with paint

[@capp00]

lol I actually tried that, but you can't paint concrete/asphalt. So I dug up a line and put down blocks and painted those, but when you dig up the ground and place blocks in them, it leaves a gap on both sides, so all the vehicles had a speedbump at the very beginning.

[@kevinlamke4163]

@@capp00 I thought once I posted that you might not be able to paint, but I've never tried, still, traffic lanes...

[@karabou1432]

Like the proper 'MERICAN I am.... don't touch my truck! Love my gas guzzling tank lol in and out if game LOL