One interesting story is that of the "Pentagón curse". is that the Pentagón gimmick (as you can tell by the video) seems to have a high turnover and injury rate (the first Pentagón retired after being clinically dead in the ring for a minute), with pretty much all Pentagóns also not really having significant careers. According to Pentagón Jr/Penta El 0M, the story went by that the Pentagón gimmick was thus cursed and he was advised not to accept it when it was pitched to him, which is where he developed his famous mantra of "Cero Miedo!/Zero Fear!" to signify his fearlessness towards the alleged curse of the Pentagón gimmick. He really struck gold with that one. Became the best man without fear this side of Daredevil. Keep up the good work, Dave!
@nybxcrotona4 жыл бұрын
That's cool. I never knew where his "Cero Miedo" catchphrase came from. I always thought it was due to some AAA rivalry that blew up for him.
@ComicBookGuy4204 жыл бұрын
Nice one
@lewisaino3 жыл бұрын
Siempre desafiante . 0M nunca caerá
@richardrodriguez3575 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I would like to hear about La Parka, El Hijo de La Parka, LA Park & the rest who use that name or a offshoot of it
@HyliRelaxed9 ай бұрын
also awesome Penta Jr has the hardest chops in the biz!
@mariotrujillo88604 жыл бұрын
mil mascaras: a dude with so much heat his own family wont take up is legacy.
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Ouch.. burn
@KingBenny4 жыл бұрын
By the way.... not every "jr" in lucha libre is the legit son of a luchador sometimes they just put the mask on some random to out them over
@Impact954 жыл бұрын
Some legends in Mexico rent his name for money to others wrestler and they uses like a jr. character, some examples are Cien Caras Jr. and Mascara Año 2000 Jr.
@rogregg294454 жыл бұрын
Yeah Rey took the name from his uncle
@alexandersilady47514 жыл бұрын
A lot of the times it actually is the original wrestler's nephew or younger cousin.
@lewisaino3 жыл бұрын
Blue Demon Jr is adopted Pretty much the blood tie is Hijo de
@tafua_a2 жыл бұрын
I guess that's why "El Hijo De" is often used. "Jr." means "the young one" and "El Hijo De" means "that guy's son"
@KlaunVI4 жыл бұрын
Your voice is buttery smooth. I enjoy it. Cheers.
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@vincentestrade12834 жыл бұрын
Also worth mentioning the Great Sasuke mask/outfit, being heavily inspired by Octagón!
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Not a bad little tidbit there
@liviolangella27773 жыл бұрын
If you do a sequel I would like to hear about Octagon, La Parka and Mascarita Sagrada
@vicentenavarro54944 жыл бұрын
To answer the question at the end I'm a fan of Doctor Wagner Junior, but I don't know anything about the original, great video as always. Love hearing you talk about Lucha
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
I did think about putting Dr Wagner on this list
@lewisaino3 жыл бұрын
He was a member of the Ola Blanca with El Solitario and Angle Blanco Sadly the latter 2 died
@Backwoods_Squatch4 жыл бұрын
Great Video, Dave! Especially for those of us who need "Closed Captioning for the Lucha Knowledge Impaired".
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked the video! Lucha!
@OrioleFan4434 жыл бұрын
Wrestling Bios brought me here. Nice vids, thank you for your contributions! I miss the 80's 'rasslin
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to WrestlingBios and thanks to you for being here! Welcome!
@kingoftheswing384 жыл бұрын
Wrestling bios sent me great colab i f'n loved it
@asantemoitt1334 жыл бұрын
Great work. I appreciate the historical aspect of your videos. All I knew about luchadors I learned from WCW. Thanks for throwing an assist to Wrestling Bios on the Great Muta video!
@kingfathersuperstillhatesk73494 жыл бұрын
Rey Fenix vs Pentagon jr was an amazing match
@chrishodges74114 жыл бұрын
I would ask which one, but pretty much every match I see of them against each other is the highlight of a show.
@kingfathersuperstillhatesk73494 жыл бұрын
@@chrishodges7411 the one from last night but overall all of them together are pretty good
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
I will say I timed this video pretty well to line up with those two going at it the night before on AEW
@kingfathersuperstillhatesk73494 жыл бұрын
@@DaveKnowsWrestling you even had him in the thumbnail
@worldpeaceprowrestlingworl30654 жыл бұрын
Yes! Great stuff Dave! More info needs to be out there about Lucha!
@shapshapshapshap28294 жыл бұрын
Wow...... their is a lot of mysterios I’ve never heard about
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Some of those are for the best
@kyleozeroff6764 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video. Very informative. Would love to see something on tiger mask and black tiger as well.
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
I have touched on both of them... surprisingly enough in was in an episode about British Wrestling
@Ilriz8174 жыл бұрын
May god rest Mark Rollerball Rocco’s soul
@shawnoandrew4 жыл бұрын
Wrestling bio sent me here. I'm glad to find your channel
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to WB and thanks to You for being here!
@ChristopherJohn43894 жыл бұрын
Wrestling Bios brought me here. Just subscribed!
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to WB and You for being here!
@adrianrussell51694 жыл бұрын
Wrestling Bios sent me following your intro to The Great Muta. Wow, I can wait to dive into your video content!
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to WB and You for being here!
@broncobalboa4 жыл бұрын
came via wrestlingbios, checked out 2 videos...and thats a subscription. gotta love quality content without time wasting, click baiting or other bs. just good old school pro wrestling stuff! hope this channels grows, double quick at best.
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much and I hope it grows double quick too. Thanks again for being here
@ahffah48524 жыл бұрын
Wrestling bios got me here
@shittalkerskywalkertm94304 жыл бұрын
Wrestling Bios sent me and I'm not disappointed brother. 🖤🖤🤙
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to WB and You for being here!
@bhumibolrushing78304 жыл бұрын
Wow had no idea rey mysterio was a mantle...that's so cool.
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Fun bit of trivia there for ya
@suedenim4 жыл бұрын
I want to see King Cuerno 2!
@alexandersilady47514 жыл бұрын
Considering King Cuerno is Hijo de Fantasma, wouldn't his successor be Fantasma III lol?
@burritoboy27514 жыл бұрын
Hey, Dave. Wrestling Bios sent me. 🙂
@beane104 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, wrestling bios provided a fantastic recommendation and your coverage of Japanese wrestling is incredibly intriguing. Subbed to you right away. I became an NJPW obsessive fan in 2013 and wish I would’ve found it sooner. Cheers mate, can’t wait to go through ur vid library!
@jonathanhensley61413 жыл бұрын
I remember when rey wrestle in 1990 in that tag team tournament.
@logia64 жыл бұрын
Perro aguyo would be a good one to add, love the channel btw!
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
He would be good, I almost did, and thank you so much
@Ragan316874 жыл бұрын
First video of your I’m seeing after seeing you on The Great Muta video over on the Wrestling Bios Channel. Great stuff
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to WB and You for being here!
@smhgaming32594 жыл бұрын
Dave your blowing up I'm so happy for you! I hope if I start to blow up that we will do a wrestling video game video together
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much I do appreciate the support this whole time
@BigSidDefcon54 жыл бұрын
Stoked to watch this!
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoyed
@bernardlim12742 жыл бұрын
I came across this now, and surprised you didn't touch on Shadito Cruz and the Brazo family line.
@robsenzig57204 жыл бұрын
Technically speaking, I would have to say that Doc Wagner and Doc Wagner Jr. along with Psycho Clown would have to rate as good luchadors
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
I did think of them too
@rubysilvereye36112 жыл бұрын
I recently got to meet the current Blue Demon at a recent Lucha Libre event this past weekend it was amazing
@billfranco47314 жыл бұрын
Very cool and interesting
@EdgeOfEntropy174 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool. As always.
@LuchaGangsta4 жыл бұрын
The dr wagner dynasty is another famous one thati would say belongs in the same mention of blue demon and el santo legacies
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
He is another prominent luchador as well
@hitemwithaclothesline75614 жыл бұрын
Damn Dave really does know wrestling. I feel like I just learned the entire history of Lucha wrestling . Good video bro 👍🏻
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
I try
@danielnoriega75954 жыл бұрын
Los dinamita brothers were a great family too
@lewisaino3 жыл бұрын
I liked the Villanos
@marovahauhulh70543 жыл бұрын
Damn this channel is underrated.... Keep it up Dave 👍
@jonathanhensley61413 жыл бұрын
Great video
@sanny874 жыл бұрын
Wrestling Bios brought me here.
@jckorn91484 жыл бұрын
I'm incredibly impressed with Dominik Mysterio. Watching him evolve and hopefully put his own twist on the Mysterio legacy will be fascinating to watch. He's only 23, should be a fun ride.
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
I am impressed too, but I wish he was in NXT right now
@0fficialdregs2 жыл бұрын
PENTAGON JR VS OCTAGON JR (kalisto) is the highlight of my youth watching them wrestling in 2012
@trosinesss4 жыл бұрын
Los Alvarado are really big, even though they don’t have the same gimmick passed on generation to generation they all have enjoy success although their careers.
@GQRS4 жыл бұрын
Bro i remember blue demon, Santos and mil mascaras for all the action movies they did back in the day. You couldn't watch channel 34 sat night without a movie of Santos, blue demon or mil mascaras being in it....lol
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Rock totally stole their gimmick being in movies
@Slapsamillion4 жыл бұрын
Wrestling Bios sent me!
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
So glad you're here. Thanks so much to WB and You!
@kesterdanger52154 жыл бұрын
Dave do a video of shoot style wrestling
@thomasjohnsonwolfbane54942 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you cover Dr.Wagner Jr. And his legacy and the LA Parka family legacy
@_The_Journey8 ай бұрын
You should look into to the Chivos Dynasty also 💯 El Chivo Garcia who wrestled against el santo, blue demon and Dr Wagner, had 3 sons, Pepe Ramirez, Enigma De Oro and Kayam who would form the famous tag team Los Chivos, Enigma also wrestled as El santo De Oro, and Estudiante. El Chivo the grandson of Enigma debuts June 2nd in east LA also
@bowtiesarerad4 жыл бұрын
The original Rey Misterio was in the movie Wrestlemaniac.
@anandhk41114 жыл бұрын
what about la parka that character was also potrayed by many luchadores
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
As stated, there are plenty more out there
@anandhk41114 жыл бұрын
@@DaveKnowsWrestling love ur videos so can you make a second part
@NotAGarage4 жыл бұрын
Wrestling bios sent me bro
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to WB and You for being here!
@benidomgaming82784 жыл бұрын
Wrestling bios sent me here
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to WB and You for being here!
@benidomgaming82784 жыл бұрын
@@DaveKnowsWrestling some great content look forward to what you have coming next
@y0Karn4 жыл бұрын
So kalisto in wwe was allowed to be kalisto after pentagon jr?
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
No, Kalisto wasn't called Kalisto until he joined WWE
@y0Karn4 жыл бұрын
@@DaveKnowsWrestling oh okay,
@neighslayer7684 жыл бұрын
Does the Tiger Mask/ Black Tiger lineage count as Lucha?
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Not to me
@supersasukemaniac4 жыл бұрын
i would count it since only Gaijin, and even then mostly Latino Gaijin like Eddie Guerreo and Rocky Romero have worn the mask.
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Just wearing a mask doesn't make you a luchador
@varitsvq90022 жыл бұрын
Quick fact: Villano V confirmed that a wrestler named Difunto I is a blood son of Ray Mendoza, but no one knows why he did not use the Villano name.
@unanimousyhwh110510 ай бұрын
The Perro Aguayo and LA Park legacy
@emilioestaban34493 жыл бұрын
Viva Mexico
@Emperor_x84 жыл бұрын
Wait extremely short simple names and over the top characters is Vince McMahon secretly a lucha libre fan
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
I don't know have you seen how Lucha get treated in WWE
@Emperor_x84 жыл бұрын
@@DaveKnowsWrestling true but he may just be a fan of the style the wwe presentation does have similarities plus has he ever had a true heavyweight luchador in his roster
@ozrix054 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about the Hermanos Dinamita
@naheemquattlebaum22674 жыл бұрын
Luchador Wars: Attack of The Clones
@lewisaino3 жыл бұрын
Espectro and Huracan Ramírez were more Spammed than Jotaro's Oras.
@pyrothefriendlyarsonist91954 жыл бұрын
Cero Miero!
@dynamicjaethought77883 жыл бұрын
Juventud Guerrera, Psycosis, La Sombre/Andrade Cien Almas.
@DaveKnowsWrestling3 жыл бұрын
All good choices for Luchadors
@ComicBookGuy4204 жыл бұрын
Dr. Wagner Jr. still one of my favourite legacies
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
He has def been mentioned for this video
@ComicBookGuy4204 жыл бұрын
@@DaveKnowsWrestling Thankyou, a lot of people don't care much about the Luchador history
@lewisaino3 жыл бұрын
Sad that he lost the Mask. I felt a bit of my childhood die.
@lewisaino3 жыл бұрын
Strangely Octágon has his own problems with CopyRight , the Penta situation is tamed in comparison
@DaveKnowsWrestling3 жыл бұрын
Oh copyright... always ruining something
@mk30b254 жыл бұрын
Does tiger mask count?
@UntaintedSKS4 жыл бұрын
Don't Forget (La Parka/L.A. Park) (La Parka II/La Parka Jr R.I.P) (L.A. Park Jr) (El Hijo de L.A. Park) (Super Parka) (La Parka Negra)
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
As stated, there are plenty more out there
@Slapsamillion4 жыл бұрын
La Parka...the Chairman...best luchador ever.
@lewisaino3 жыл бұрын
@@DaveKnowsWrestling LA Park I call him Tapiark and La Parka is called ParkAAA so maybe that helps.
@quinnsanders46764 жыл бұрын
My favorite not on the list Guerrero’s and texano family and Garza and caras family
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
So many great wrestling families out there
@lucassamuelacosta4 жыл бұрын
faltaron los alvarado
@FernandoGarcia-ui6yf2 жыл бұрын
El Rayo De Jalisco
@EDSupay4 жыл бұрын
0 Miedo!
@MJ617 Жыл бұрын
👌🏾⬆️👌🏾⬇️
@mml88137 ай бұрын
la park
@varitsvq90022 жыл бұрын
El hijo de Blue Demon Jr
@jayfasey97112 жыл бұрын
Confusing. Are some of those luchas ripping of others by getting instant fame from the masks
@JeremyH-n5qАй бұрын
Rey fenix
@johnpalomo1688 Жыл бұрын
Learn how to pronounce names Villano is pronounced Vi Ya No the double L makes the y sound.
@Impact954 жыл бұрын
Also Ray Mendoza Jr.(aka Villano V) have two sons: Villano V Jr. and Rokambole Jr. this last son use the original character who Ray Jr. uses before became a Villano and join the rest of his brothers