7 Reasons Why Porsche Are So Expensive (You're Going To Be Pissed)

[@kup3344]

I for one think the electric car market is going to die and so do most of the current new car manufacturers.

[@trigganometry168]

I just bought my first Porsche which I having been dreaming about since I was 15. I was able to spec it the way I wanted and that is such a treat to pay for everything you want and not anything you don’t want. I live in a middle class neighborhood and don’t like to flaunt the car. It is kept clean in my garage and I sneak it out the house early Sunday mornings to rip in the canyons. I enjoy my Porsche the most when nobody’s around and it just me and the car.

[@mikeb2777]

My wife and I test drove a Miata then a 718 (Boxster). When she heard the door close on the 718 she was sold. Quality is everywhere in the build. For my part I love the handling, fuel economy and storage for road trips. Top notch car for the money.

[@WARDADDY72]

I would love to buy a new 718 coupe. I am a 911 freak but the 718$ have really grown on me over the past several years. Congrats.

[@guessdxb]

My 992 is coming in 4 months.. I can't wait, and I do not care about any prices or EV things

[@martingregory5955]

I finally managed to buy a 986 as a toy at 60yo and love the thing! I hate the thought of losing petrol engines so get one while you can and enjoy.

[@davidowen2859]

Had my 986 from new for 24 years. Great little car, enjoy.

[@rebelliosaurus429]

​@@davidowen2859 Same here. 2000 with 310.000 km...wonderfull thing at affordable costs.

[@jonmitchell2424]

I think this video raises some good points. I have been a Porsche specialist technician for 35 years. In that time I have seen my fair share of change in legislation, change in the economy and in particular the cycle of recessions and booms. One thing in particular on this point I have seen the early phase of a recession causing some people who are overstretched to sell their cars, and then panic when they can't sell them quickly, which makes them drop the price, which in turn makes others see a lower price, which makes the Porsche market slip down.. Then what happens is that stocks and shares stop doing well, especially if there is inflation, which in reality can make their portfolios start to seem like they are shrinking... So they put their money into Gold... Gold goes up in value, so then more people pile in, the value of gold goes up further and eventually stops increasing in value... So where do they move their money next? While all this has been happening in the financial markets, some of these Porsche at the bottom end of the market vanish from the market, either they crash and their market value being lower means they get written off, or some end up getting exported to markets not suffering from a recession so much, for example, another right-hand drive market like Australia... So just as Gold is topping out, people with some spare money go looking for what is becoming less plentiful on the market and seem to have plateaued and begun to rise... Classic cars... Then Porsche start shooting up in valve as more people jump into that market seeing the rise, which is a feedback loop of rising prices causing more people to jump in, which results in the prices rising more and so on... I have seen this happen in the late 80s and early 90s, I saw it at the end of the 90s, and I saw it after the 2008 credit crunch... And it will happen again and there is already signs that the first phase is happening now with the values of many Porsche models at all price points having fallen already, but anyone selling at these prices is quite frankly mad, because give it 18 months to two years, the prices will be shooting up again and over the next couple of years after that, they will end up twice the price they are now... Similar things happen with house prices, but the Porsche values recover and explode a couple of years earlier than house prices, or even while house prices are still going down... Many of these investors going from Gold to Porsche, tend to also see the benefit of something that is appreciating, but at the same time something they can touch, enjoy and drive as an investment. With the advent of electric cars, I also think that even once the production of combustion-engined cars may end (and there are signs this might not happen with developments of clean fuels which some manufacturers including Porsche are hedging their bets on) fuel will still be available, either fossil or new fuel replacement technologies will still be available as long as someone wants to buy it, which means the existing ICE engined Porsche, will continue to be scrapped (when their value is low) and become desirable once their value increases with lack of supply, which means I can see classic Porsche being cherished decades after the last ICE Porsche models are made, with values ever rising.

[@Looney21]

Porsche has been very public is saying that the 911 will NEVER be fully electric. It will forever have an internal combustion engine.

[@jontheodore8450]

Don’t like to put a damper on things but as a dealer i’m starting to see Porsche prices collapsing even in classic auctions cars 20 to 30k below bottom estimates GT3 prices falling weekly we are definitely going through a realignment on prices only the good low mileage cars are doing OK, so be careful when buying…

[@alsatch_]

Thanks nice to hear info from a dealer 👍

[@jonwarshawsky5288]

If you want to drive a RELIABLE classic sports car, your options are limited. Porsche takes the fear out of classic ownership. If you have a nice 911, it will never go out of fashion and will run forever.

[@dacat8171]

Nothing from Germany does its job forever.

[@DonBMW]

Fake news. 996. - IMS failure 997.1 - Bore scoring 997.2 - Bore Scoring 991 - Sludge and Bore Scoring None of the Porsches after the classic air cooled are built well and are garbage. $35k to rebuild on of the failed designs.

[@keithrichards-io5db]

True re Porsche reliability- recently was comparing what I could get in the price range of a GT3. Talking to people who own McLarens in the same price range, along with equally performance cars at lower prices (Z06 Vette, Lotus, Nissan GTR) you cannot get a car that will withstand the punishment of the track in a reliable and classic car that will look like a Porsche 20 years from now

[@troytempest290]

Truth.

[@johndouglas4528]

I own two Porsches. A 1984 911 Carrera and a 2002 Boxster S. Three years ago, the Boxster's AC needed some work. I took it to the shop where I have my Porsches serviced. The shop owner asked, "When was the AC last serviced?" I said, "Never. Well, I mean it's only 19 years old!" The shop owner said, "Well there is that."

[@paulfastbikes361]

Bubbles burst sitting unsold for months prices dropping now

[@asianfilmfan1]

Personally I test drove Camaro, challenger, corvette then Porsche and nothing compares to Porsche precision and performance. You get what you pay for.

[@marcosvaldes8910]

Your last point was a big motivator for me to take the plunge and buy my 981 S flat six, one month ago. The visceral feel and sound it makes, cannot be replicated by an EV. I have no regrets.

[@allogan7428]

I’m an owner of 991.2 carerra S , my last car was a model s performance. The carrera is slow compared to the Tesla but the difference is how the Porsche makes me feel. I’m financially much worse off- she likes a drink but she’s worth it. The car has had new air con, rear coil springs, new air oil separator, new water pump, new oil lines to turbo, new turbo’s , new brake lines . So in my experience they are not reliable. The benefit is waiting 6 weeks for the car to return from the latest repairs and I have that new car feeling again. If you buy one I would very strongly recommend a Porsche approved car with 2 year warranty. The repairs so far have been £15,000 all covered under warranty by Porsche. My Model s was trouble free with no breakdowns or servicing costs over 120,000 miles. That makes the Porsche seem very fragile- but in away more special

[@robinoconnor1203]

A new Porsche is an expensive car. Compared with other brands it is a sound purchase. Depreciation is very low, I have seen 2-3 year old base model 911s very close to new prices. So its a good investment. Used prices are higher than many other brands, partially because unlike other brands, Porsche factory options retain a large amount of their high cost. There is a limited number for sale at any time. I also believe Porsche artificially restrict first time buyers of new cars, hence high used prices. Another factor is, they are an aspirational car, because to the majority of people, a 911 has looked the same since it was first launched, so having a 997 or a 992 impresses a lot of people. I believe its perception may be changing. My 28 year old Son does not understand the 911 following, yet loves my Cayenne.

[@frankdepasquale8715]

With Porsche you get what you pay for best car ever

[@vonbraun8051]

By percentage, Porsche is number one in this category: The percentage of Porsches that have ever been made and still on the road being driven is more than any other car manufacturer. Porsche motto--"Built to be driven hard".

[@danieltackett4089]

Your last point is 100% why I ordered a Cayman GTS 4.0. 2024 is the last model year before the 718 goes EV (Porsche *may* continue to build the ICE a bit longer). I wanted to get a new manual car to last well into the EV era. As a BMW fan, I’m not fond of the current M model design and the Lotus dealer network is sparse in the USA. That led me to Porsche, and I was lucky to get an order allocation. I will have an EV as a daily driver, where they are optimal, but the fun ICE manual cars are in their final models now.

[@andrewlee387]

me too. I ordered a boxster. 4.0 manual as well. good luck to both of us🤞😊

[@Contractor815]

The impending mid-engine switch from ICE to BEV is what pushed me to get my 987.2 after four years of Cayman lust. COVID pricing was ridiculous, but post-BEV pricing will be even worse.

[@AR2Rcayman]

Same here. I currently have PHEV as a work horse and 987.2 base Cayman for a weekends (to remind me what the real car is 😁)

[@wokka6850]

Here in Australia, a 991.1 when new was 280 AUD. A used 991.1 with 40k mileage is circa 160 AUD plus. A used 981 Cayman GTS is around 160k. There is an exchange rate difference of course. Even taking this into account you can see how silly porsche pricing is in Australia. A lot of this is also due to high import tax and low sales volumes and a low population in Australia. Used car values also really jumped here during covid with low interest rates available.

[@danhall5761]

They’re settling a bit, but most definitely cheaper in the uk

[@winnershandbook1069]

A porsche 911 here in india is 550,000 USD. absolutely insane. even a 718 boxster is 200,000. as much as I like porsche it's not worth paying that much

[@a.c.e.7568]

While on the Gold Coast I had some time to check what a 2018 911 Carrera 4 GTS goes for with the options I have on my 2015 911 Carrera 4 GTS that I bought used in 2018 with a mere 157 kms on it (yes, less than 100 miles). The original owner would have paid CA$208,800 "out-the-door" WITH OPTIONS compared to Porsche Australia's Drive Away Price of AU$323,994 WITHOUT OPTIONS. My car had CA$45,620 in Porsche factory options and those in Australia (less two options that were not listed) were AU$76,330. The Drive Away Price with options was AU$404,520, so basically almost double the price. And we in Canada pay a lot more for Porsches than they do in the US. My theory is, any country under British rule (UK, Canada, Australia) gets taxed to death and everything costs more. I could never afford a Porsche in Australia, too bloody expensive. And that is why I have a Dan Murphy's card to save on my drink.

[@seandenny1553]

My opinion I grew dreaming about my dream 1979 911sc because my neighbor let me drive his when I was in high school. Finally could afford one and the bank said they will not loan on cars older than 10 years so that made me switch from a 997.2 to a 991.1 so after 2 years of hunting for the perfect spec I pulled the trigger . Could’t be happier!

[@varinvajanapornsand8960]

I agree with your last point. Just bought a 2023 C2S and hoping the 992.2 will be hybrid.

[@FrankGallagherr]

Market is going to crash hard

[@TheBiggerestDave]

Prices are massively down right now and I continue to see them drop. I use the AutoTrader Price Tracker and you can see Caymans, 911s, etc being dropped by £7k->£20K in some cases. I personally think due to two main reasons. 1. Interest rates for cars have gone mental and its just not as affordable as it was previously for people. 2. Mortgage rates have also gone crazy and we see people going from 1/2/3% to 4/5/6% it leaves less room for luxuries like a Porsche. I do think long term though your last point about the upcoming electric cars will mean these cars will retain their value but in the short term I think we will continue to see massive drops in prices.

[@O1012-u7q]

I think the real reason was that Porsches were in a bubble. Historically they have depreciated like every other car. In 2015 I bought a 3-yr old 911 Turbo S for 120k, about $100k off new price. Lately, 3-yr old 911s have been damn near original MSRP, which is totally insane and unsustainable. They are not really limited production cars, it was just a temporary mania triggered by lockdowns like a few other market segments.

[@sevesellors2831]

I think there are two buying groups, those that love the cars so buy them Then you get the group that buy Porsche as an investment to make profit but the bubble has burst prices now falling I know somebody with a Taycan lost £40,000 in 6 months even the petrol models now dropping£20,000. The cars were overpriced and the extras ridiculous so reality has now arrived.

[@ianmcshane9728]

I agree with your last point. I bought mine because they simply won't be available new for much longer. It's also worth pointing out that prices are on the way down in a big way now. You can pick up new 911s and Caymans at a discount where they're in stock. I had to wait nearly 2 years for mine 2019 -> 2021.

[@s10lucky]

Great video 👍. I aspired to own one since I was a kid. I’m lucky enough, through hard work, to own a ‘modest’ Porsche, a 981 Cayman S, but it’s the best car I’ve ever owned. The quality is incredible. A 10 year old car that feels newer than my year old Tesla. Also not crazy money to run. No more than my old MK3 Focus RS or c class etc.

[@derrickgreen9020]

You’re right mate…same here…the salesman asked me how long I’d been looking for a Porsche…I told him since I was 6😂

[@len333p]

I agree with both of you. I have a 2013 Boxster S and it’s the best engineered and best car to drive I have ever owned (I’m 64). Not the brand or ‘doing well’, just plain old smile on my face when I drive and take care of it. I love doing my own maintenance and it’s easier than I originally would have thought. Interesting video, made me think honestly why I bought it. 👍🏻

[@tedshaw4160]

It used to be that you could buy a new Porsche ( Cash ) and sell it 5 years later for close to the amount you bought it for. Sometimes more for the " Right " model. I did it twice in the 70's and 80's.

[@MotoMark55]

I suspect that manual, flat six, analogue Porsches with no IMS/RMS/bore score issues will become highly sought-after vehicles once people start to tire of white goods BEV's & yearn for the good ol' days of soulful, characterful ICE cars. Car culture is very much alive in the UK & will only get stronger in my opinion. All we need is for synthetic fuel to come down in price & become widely available.

[@retributionangel5078]

They price development Cost in. When the next generation Car is released they price it in again ontop. So 50 years later, you have Cars that have 50 years of develoment cost priced in. 50 years ago a porsch was 20-30.000,- now they cost 200.000,- You pay develompent cost for technologies that are no longer in the car.

[@Datimdavis2900]

I own a 2022 718 Cayman S. Why? I have been looking at them since 2004 and finally found myself in a position to afford mine. I keep it because at some point soon, there will be no more gas powered engines. And it give my son and I another reason to spend time together.

[@24hourgmtchannel64]

I currenty own a 996 and 928. I badly want an air cooled G body 911 but I am not willing to pay the insane prices of late 70's - 80's air cooled cars.

[@vtgenius]

its the Apple or LV brand tax equivalent, US$600 for a go faster stripe on the roof is priced to sell!

[@davidfletcher5227]

Perhaps the reason for Porsche charge so much money for porsche motor cars is because they can, and people will pay it.

[@stephenbennett8228]

I agree with what you say Satch, here in Australia the used market is still high, however, it has cooled a bit now due rise home loan interest rates. I bought a 987.2 Cayman just before COVID and sold it late last year for 17k more than I paid for it, only sold it for that reason but still would like another Porsche though

[@geoffclarke3796]

Great cars. I've owned 3 Porsche's going back to the late 90's, a 944 Turbo, 1 911 3.2 Carerra & a 996 GT3. All were reliable and the GT3 which was mildly modified and which I had for more than 10 years, was the best car I've owned by a huge margin. Looked great, sounded epic and the handling, especially on track, was just sublime.

[@jimgraves665]

997 is the sweet spot. Get one!

[@D992]

Those who have jumped in the market purely to make money are now being left out of pocket. 😵‍💫 The market has turned 👋🏼

[@rocko107me8]

The reason they are so expensive is that the brand is one of the only cash cows left in the VW group and they need the profits to fund the cash bleed of building EVs and for continuing to pay loans related dieselgate, it’s as simple as that

[@williamjackson5357]

I agree with all of your ways to afford a Porsche, except the last one🏎

[@curvetrcalinga]

I’m content with my 2 sports cars; a spec 987.1 CS and 4C. Light mid engine sports cars. I’m still searching for a non molested Lotus Exige.

[@SkippyPB.]

Here in the states, a 991.1 will set you back around $68k-$75k for something with around 60k miles.

[@edchang9521]

Prices are the same here in the US IF you can get an allocation! There is a premium added to most 911 -ADM

[@lunytrickz]

the EV market is imploding

[@allogan7428]

It is for Taycans but not for Tesla. You need to look at the adoption curves across the world , tipping point for exponential growth is 10% adoption. Look for Tony Seba - he’s the main man talking about disruptive technology. The consumer rules- if a product is cheaper and in some ways better they will purchase the new product - think horse and cart to car took 11 years to go from zero to over 80% adoption. Adoption starts slowly then rapidly accelerates following an S shaped curve. I love Porsche and have a 911 but I also have a Tesla and love that for different reasons

[@johnwilliams727]

Fossile fuel powered EVs are clearly not a viable solution, obviously.

[@adam964]

​@allogan7428 Well said. Same as you, I will cherish my manual 911 for as long as I can, however my Tesla is also a remarkable vehicle for what it does.

[@aged7968]

Your last comment about EV’s is important. Time will tell how EV’s will end up (the battery tech is not reliable long term, and people tire of the tech just like with old smartphones). Something else to consider is the demographically shift. Are today’s young people interested in mid ‘70s air cooled 911’s with no air conditioning or Bluetooth? I know I am, but I love those cars because they were part of my youth. I don’t know if 15 years from now, when today’s middle age guys want to unload their old 911’s that there will be young people interested in those old fashioned cars. I suspect todays high prices aren’t sustainable because todays youth just won’t be as interested in the near future. My humble opinion. Great videos, you have a great channel!

[@Xspeedspec]

I was lucky to find a 2018 cayman gts for $64k with 39k miles…cayman gts are not easy to find used and cheap

[@slipsen1843]

Ofcourse Porsche has to meet the demand for electric cars BUT look at prices on used ones you can buy them for almost half the price,at least in sweden i think that the real fan of the brand dream of the sound and smell from the normally asperated engine,Porsche are as well experimanting with fuel in argentina to avoid getting electric.i read an articel in the swedish porsche member magasine written by walter röhl about this and,it looks sucessful so far ,we will see,and look at toyota they are also experimanting with fuel to avoid going electric Best regards from Sweden

[@JamesParus]

Porsche is rare that its cool when old. Not many sportscars stay that way. Most well off rich people would not buy any other car so old. Like amg mercedes. They buy new and 10year old is not ok for them anymore

[@godspeed6315]

Great info buddy , I have a 997 c4S study like yours wonder if I should sell it or keep it Iv had a little over a year now, by the way where did you get that Porsche shield emblem on the wall behind you as I fancy one myself 😊

[@alsatch_]

I got it from a place in the Lake District (Keswick) called poets interiors but the don’t have a website. They said I got the last one but they do get new stock in and do have some good automotive decor if you’re ever in the area 👍

[@godspeed6315]

@@alsatch_ hey thanks for that buddy , it’ll be worth the drive to those ends in the 997 so 👍😉

[@kingy23king17]

Another bang on video, cheers mate.

[@ErnieBerckman]

It’s the technology that goes into them. The engineering is beyond nearly anything you can imagine. If it’s not hardware, it’s the extraordinary software that runs the vehicles.

[@boxsterbenz4059]

EVs will be a bust.

[@steffidas4785]

It's more about will I drive that perfectly then being expensive is worth it and this goes for any car bdw,any costly car tries to make the most compact and driver friendly components in one package that never means the driver will drive it well,it all depends how much and what you have driven in your experience,no clap is formed by one hand likewise no best car will be there without the best drivers,and there is minimum one exclusive feature of each car brand which is highlighted primarily then comes the other ones

[@shelloiluk]

I've had 5 Porsches. Latest is a 992 911 S. I've ordered a 992 GTS now. I'm paying for engineering and performance and a car that not every Tom dick and Harry has. I also have a smoking hot blonde Russian girlfriend who looks amazing next to a Porsche.

[@danrook5757]

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[@DanB-]

Electric only cars will not happen in my opinion and I 100% believe that! Porsche themselves have already made a solution with their synthetic fuel which is used in their own race series. On electric you cannot have charging cables down terrace streets(UK) on every house imagine the claims from tripping over them haha. We have made pretty much zero effort as a country to get the infrastructure in place so why would that change? Then what are we going to do with all the old knackered batteries, hardly good for the world is it haha. Porsche prices are always high and in demand for 911's anyway no other model really, down to desirability and when we justify buying one to ourselves we "think" it will be much cheaper than other alternatives. For eg I dont know why anyone would want a 911 for say 60-80k over a Ferrari 360, but once you think of running costs, reliability, parts availability etc etc you think I will get a Porsche :D

[@drbobs8267]

I could be wrong but I think most people who buy a Porsche will pay cash and not finance the car.

[@adrian-qr6zk]

wrong

[@worldtravel101]

Hard to believe

[@O1012-u7q]

Paying cash is a poor person’s idea of a rich person’s behavior. Only pay cash if interest rates are higher than the return on your investments. Thats usually true as of Nov 2023, but with historically lower interest rates it was better to leave money invested and finance the car.

[@a.c.e.7568]

I bought both my 993 and 991.1 Carrera 4 GTS and paid cash. I do not take loans out for toys and besides, I am too poor to make interest payments as a "tech".

[@danhall5761]

So so wrong, probably 1 in 10 less than 5 years old are paid for with cash, what makes you think that?

[@a.c.e.7568]

Are Porsches that expensive? Compared to what other cars? Lets look at a Corvette C8. If you work on these cars and I am not talking about an oil change, you quickly find out which of the two is better built. And if you cannot tell, buy the Vette. You pay for that plus the Porsche has import duties and shipping which increases the price even more than a domestic Vette.

[@De132an]

40% markups!

[@atrottycre8tiveconnections]

I feel like you were spot on!

[@danmetz5112]

The new car prices of Porsche products are bad enough, but try to spec one out and prepare to gasp at the you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me prices for options! Why should one paint color, for example, cost more than any other? And that's just one of many, many examples. I'm not talking about paint to match, which used to be a Porsche Exklusive option; I'm talking about catalog colors. $800 for different color gauge faces! And on and on.

[@daivietnguyen7289]

They are expensive due to the fact that they are the only automaker who can build a rear engine sport car, and they have perfected it for more than half a century !!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@rebelliosaurus429]

EV's won't have the same lifespand as ICE cars all because of the batteries. Massive writeoffs are to be expected on them. My 986.2 is paid for and even at ridiculous gass prices it would be cheaper to run and maintain than an butugly EV..

[@teslapower18]

If one says that any purchase, like Porsche here, is too expensive…then that person most obviously does not have enough money. Few friends owning currently a Porsche are not happy about the high need of professional maintenance and service. I switched to Tesla Model S few years ago and will never look back. Instant power, great handling in high speeds on autobahn and minimal service needs just make the life much, much more fun.

[@squashum778]

I think if you REALLY want something ( like a Porsche) you’ll find a way. Work harder ,longer hours , sell your house, invest, crimp& save and if all else fails …. Rob a bank. (Oops)

[@sixtrejody]

Sell coke.

[@k3V2181]

My car was only $197,000.00 and it brings me and my son endless joy every day of our life. that’s a bargain.

[@afoolandhismoneychannel]

I think the more that unwanted EVs are shoved down our throats, the more valuable older and fun ICE cars will become. And if I'm wrong, there will be lots of cheap old Porsches around again for proper enthusiasts to enjoy.

[@YumboYack2521]

Having both options is great. I daily drive a Rivian R1S, and it’s one of the best vehicles I’ve ever owned. Comfortable, quicker than most Porsches, and great tech. Combined with solar and cost of ownership including free electricity has been low. I have a manual 997.1 C2S and manual 992 base for the weekends

[@WARDADDY72]

I HATE lecteic .!!! It is ruination of the entire auto industry. It puts China in control of the worlds traspo and that is a nightmare. Just saying. Love Porsche cars and agree that a super cheep car made by the brand would cheapen it. Especially in the U S market.

[@AbyNeon]

electric cars only will never happen, .... you need one big nuclear plant to power them for every 1.5 million population city. a country like Germany UK or Italy will never ever have 50 plus nuclear reactors. and if they ever did, the cost to run your car would be a whole family of 5 household electricity bill, for commuting every 90 miles or 150 km. basically 250 pound's or 300 euro with today current average Kw/H prices. There isnt enough uranium in the world to run this kind of uthopia. The whole electric car bullshit is all about getting people to stop owning cars and instead rent whatever the governments and financial institutions will push down your throat instead... After that will have happened, they will forbid owning a house, and we will go back to feudal system....which by all means is already in act. if You want to have a good life in the future, become a politician with a good position in the euro parliament, where all the euro mafia resides.. Unfortunately they are brain washing people to confuse carbon monoxide with carbon dioxide, and not telling that 90% of the air we breathe is produced by our oceans and not by trees. if they really wanted to do something about climate change they they would have stopped china from practicing artificial climate change which has been going on for over a decade now. If even the whole eurozone canada and united states banned cars all together, there wouldnt be any change at all given that the other 5 billion people living on thsi planet dont give a crap about electric cars, electric cargo ships and electric cargo trucks. You really wanna stop pollution in cities,,, BAND BUYING ANYTHING ON THE INTERNET...so that we get rid of all delivery trucks and personnel, which consist of over 80% of traffic nowadays..

[@0728451031548270jeff]

Where did you get the Porsche sign on your wall? My feeling is once the Porsche logo goes on the hood, the quality is implied. Therefore I don't think they will lower their quality, because they have no problem selling what they produce. Electric SUCKS period and have reached a saturation point, they are sitting twice as long as ICE on dealers lots.