7 things I MISSED about NL while in Italy

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[@ottot3221]

Great video! I always get the idea Americans often think that Europe is all very much the same but each country is wildly different. That is sometimes confusing but also a lot of fun.

[@thephilosopherofculture4559]

The daughter of my girlfriend brought a tangomaster from Buenos Aires to The Netherlands. This guy got a complete cultureshock. He had NEVER been to a country or met anyone who could not speak Spanish. In his mind, Spain was the most important country of Europe and therefore everyone would at least speak a little bit Spanish. The other even more severe culture shock was that in Amsterdam there were more tangomasters than in Buenos Aires. It was mindboggling for me, too, by the way.

[@cynic7049]

About Italian organization you know the old joke: Heaven is where the cooks are French, the police are British, the mechanics are German, the lovers are Italian and everything is organized by the Swiss. Hell is where the cooks are British, the police are German, the mechanics are French, the lovers are Swiss, and everything is organized by the Italians

[@incompresa]

As an Italian, I've always loved that joke. It's more like a true representation of reality rather than just a joke. 😅

[@ankavoskuilen1725]

Een gouwe ouwe! :)

[@intersezioni]

I remind you that Italy is the third largest economy in Europe, the eighth in the world and the second industrial power after Germany, unlike Switzerland or Holland for example. 😉

[@ChrisMcCandless77777]

@@intersezioni wel said dude no Netherlands and no Switzerland 🤪

[@erikaverink8418]

@@intersezioni You better be with the bigger population. (not a hateful comment) Btw Holland are 2 provinces in the Netherlands. I know it's confusing, Holland is part of the Netherlands, we call ourself Dutch and while we have a red,white,blue flag. We wear orange with a international football match. If i wasn't Dutch, it would confuse me also.

[@edoardorossi5031]

- Most restaurants don’t give you water for free in Italy, not even tap water (some do), but if they are not the super cheap restaurants, it will be glass bottles, not plastic - You don’t have to order every drink in advance if you go to a club in Italy, this must be a rule of the Eurovision clubs - Your Dutch data provider probably doesn’t rely on a good Italian provider when you use roaming. Signal is quite good in Italy especially in big cities. - It was the taxi driver who didn’t know where you could get food late at night (or early in the morning). Or just didn’t bother. Shops’ opening hours are much longer in Italy compared to the Netherlands and there are several supermarkets that are open 24/7, including in Torino not far from the center (just checked). There are snack machines at train stations also. - The heating/cooling thing is not really enforced except maybe for public administration buildings. Probably hotel owners didn’t want to pay for an even bigger electricity bill… - The deodorant thing: really??!!

[@eddys.3524]

Nice to see a video by you again... My own Italian experience? I didn't miss the Netherlands for a day. I guess I needed the break and the top-quality Coffee...

[@alessandrarastelli4227]

Well, organization is not something we are good at. I don't know why, I often get angry at this, but apparently there isn't a solution. However there's an explanation about the double queue. In Italy for hygiene prescriptions, the person who touches money cannot serve food. Obviously the rule is not always followed in small shops, but in places where you attend many customers, double queue is normal. Regarding A/C, you must consider 3 things. 1. In Turin, in the days of Eurovision, It was very hot, for being the first half of May (27-28°), but not so very hot if you consider that in summer temperature can rise easily to nearly 40°. 2. Electricity is very expensive in Italy, and after the Ukraine war the bills have skyrocketed. 3. Cause the war, government has created the rule about keeping minimum 25° when turning on A/C. You will understand that if you have 27° outside, it doesn't make much sense to turn on A/C to obtain 25°. It would only be a waste. If you will visit Italy in the winter, you will see that we must (by law) keep the temperature inside our homes at maximum 21° . I've known swedish people, visting Italy in february, complaining about how cold was the hotel. Obviously there's not the police checking inside private homes, but there are controls for public buildings. However the bill for heating is so expensive that people keep temperatures even lower at home. And next winter will be much worse . If there's a positive side to all of this is that our way is certainly more friendly to the environment.

[@simosom1]

Thank God in Italy we don’t have machines selling those horrible snack made of god knows what left over junk , fried in what chip oil and tasting horrible! You were hot with less than 25 degrees outside because you come from a country where is raining most of the time.

[@floris-janvandermeulen8054]

On my next trip to Italy I will miss Domino's Pizza. 😉 But seriously: after restaurants close - no food for you! Some people (at least the Dutch) prefer a fried "horrible" snack over going to bed with an empty stomach. I was in Florence last week. Next to the central train station is a McDonalds. On its windows printed in BIG letters: "APERTO 24 ORE". I was there at 8 am and wanted a cup of coffee. No luck: it was closed although the employees were inside, chatting with each other. BTW, one small correction: in the Netherlands it rains between 120 and 155 days per year. So at least 240 days a year are totally dry. And on most rainy days it does not rain for more than about an hour. On those days you can use an app like "Buienradar" to see when it will be dry in your area that day.

[@logangarcia]

welcome back queen! 👸🏼

[@Zwaantjes]

Water comes in glass bottles too 😀

[@madamnicknack]

I was in Italy at the same time and most of the times they were indeed glass bottles (but I always ordered a liter which cost between 2 and 3,5 euro)

[@tannergruene8937]

Welcome back! It sounds very different than Rome! We just went and the heat was crazy compared to the Netherlands! But the food was SOOOOOOOOO good and it actually had seasonings and flavor! Since moving ti the Netherlands, I find it hard to find food that tastes good with any flavor unless I cook it myself. Even foreign food joints tone down their flavor for the bland Dutch market. But for sure, the organization in Holland is some of the best!!

[@Dutchbelg3]

For me it is very strange to notice people from some areas in the USA eat everything with hot sauce!! We Dutchies appreciate the taste of our ingredients. And being in the USA right now.. i understand why Americans have to blast away the real taste of ingredients with hot sauce! 😜

[@tannergruene8937]

I think we eat hot sauce because we have a significant Latin American influence. I lived in a heavily Mexican area, so I grew up with Mexican food. I’m not a big fan of a lot of “American” food, but I would choose it over frikadel, bitterbolen, and whatever other mystery meats they sell at the AH with no spices 🤮

[@Dutchbelg3]

@@tannergruene8937 The Dutch cuisine is more than the junk food section of the supermarket.

[@tannergruene8937]

Dutch food. Yeah. Stampot. Boterham. Frites with no salt. Yeah, I think you’re biased since you grew up with this. It’s fine if you like flavorless food, but as someone who has traveled the whole globe eating real food, I find the Dutch cuisine to be horrendous. That being said, I do like the transportation system here!

[@madamnicknack]

@@tannergruene8937 F.e. Fries, it depends if you eat it on the street or take away, but for fhe last is a very good reason. Take away fries don't get salt on it because the salt will extract moist and fries will loose crispness. You always do that yourself at home.

[@clivegilbertson6542]

Yes, people speaking English...I spent a lot of time in the 80's working in France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Nederlands and Germany...I found especially in Franc that it was amazing how many people could suddenly speak English when they found out I was Australian and not British or American...Cheers!

[@priscillamckinney6688]

Has Daan not done a lot of traveling? It's great that your channel gets to show him different places. I personally have not traveled much so I am always surprised by things.

[@vervideosgiros1156]

"Why so late?" Because there is sun in Italy!

[@MultiCombo1]

Sometimes things are just different because people are used to work like that and it works for them. I'm curious to see what someone living in Italy would miss when they'd visit the Netherlands. Happy to hear that things are going really well at your new job.

[@martina_trees]

Hi, Im here to satisfy your curiosity. I will begin saying I recognize all the issues with Italy regarding quality of life, politics and job situation and they make my life hell and my possibilities very slim even with a graduate degree in physics, in fact I am going to move soon. What I missed in the Netherlands was the beauty of the cities. In Italy 95% of the time even small cities or towns are beautiful, just going out and taking a walk makes you feel surrounded by peculiar architecture and landscapes. I found Dutch cities to look very similar to each other except for some cases, I guess that may be boring to me after a long time. I spoke to a group of Italians in the Netherlands and what they mainly miss is the sunny weather. Italy is unsustainably hot but it is sunny almost every day in some regions, looks like rainy weather messes with your mood on a chemical level and makes you overall more sad and more prone to depression

[@harrybruijs2614]

​@@martina_trees the last sentence was quite unnecessary. When you ever have experienced a Dutch party, you know they are not sad and depressive.

[@martina_trees]

@@harrybruijs2614 That is absolutely not what I meant. My boyfriend is half Dutch so I had some kind of experience with Dutch people (his relatives and his friends) and they all seemed pretty chill, much more relaxed and overall with a healthier approach to life than Italians. However, some stats for example about the UK show an increase in the cases of clinical depression. They are obviously somewhat biased (more awareness means more cases diagnosed) but there is quite some scientific literature about the cyrcadian rythm. The stats about suicides in Scandinavia also show something similar, despite the quality of life is exponentially better than in other countries. This is obviously not a way to say these people are more annoying or negative or something, as I in fact envy them for the relaxed lifestyle, boi Italy makes my mental health so bad lol

[@brunobastos5533]

Not Italian but being from south Europe northerners are more cold people and lack something , you know if a group is from the south

[@celinecathz2280]

About English speaking (or not): there is one reason why people in NL, Denmark etc. speak it a lot better than people in France, Italy and Spain for ex.: Dutch is not a widely spoken language, no one speaks it outside of NL and part of Belgium, whereas French people can travel to many different places such as Morocco, and still be understood speaking French. I have not even mentioned that Dutch is quite close to English so easier to learn for Dutch people. People need to stop taking for granted that everyone in the world speaks or should speak English!

[@andreanecchi5930]

I'm glad you liked Italy 😁🇮🇹

[@antjuh25]

Glad you guys had a wonderful time. Also glad ti see a video of you.

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[@vervideosgiros1156]

In the majority of european countries it's it's easy to find people who speak English, but before going to a country it's wise to gather information about that country!

[@lidijabirsa7768]

...... and learn a few words in the language of the country you're going to! That's what we here in Europe think is the basic politeness!

[@vervideosgiros1156]

@@lidijabirsa7768 Yes, sure! 😊

[@jacquelinebm17]

We were just in Italy and we were able to order a taxi to come the next day at 4:00 a.m. I couldn't believe it the man showed up punctually. Not something we could manage to organize in America. Lol

[@GabberPinda]

I experienced that to in the club (in italy), when I was to a big rave. If you lose that card for your drinks at the end when your leaving you still have to pay the full price of that card (50€).

[@widmawod]

About the air conditioning, only public places have to follow the 25 °C rule (only in the summer, it's 21 in the winter), in our own houses we can set whatever temperature we want at any time. But it's not the outside temperature that has to be 25°, it's the AC temperature that can't go below that in the summer, which is... you know... a lot, especially considering this applies to all state-owned spaces such as schools. The thing is... I don't know that a hotel counts as a State-owned building though, maybe this was because it is technically an event indirectly organised by the state

[@Alejojojo6]

Well Dutch is way closer to English than Italian is to English or Slavic languages, so that's a main reason why many countries in other areas of Europe, specially among those age 50 and above dont speak English on average (Im neither Italian or Dutch btw).

[@martina_trees]

This is true, French for example is easier to study as an Italian, though I can assure you the issue is with the Italian school system (which is pretty bad overall): we "study" English from 6yo to 18 but it is based on learning grammar and vocabulary and almost zero practining the language to improve your fluency. This is the case for all the languages you may study in Italy (Spanish, French, German). My parents spent their own money in English courses and exams for me.

[@lullalalla8891]

Let's not forget the school system started teaching English quite recently before everyone learned French as an international language. So with older generations like 55+ you might have more luck speaking french with them.

[@kote8660]

I lived in Florence for a while, luckily there was always a döner place open, even at 4 am at night. We were regular customers after going out 😂

[@cyrielmartens3575]

Welcome home! LOL it's after seeing some comparisons to US. To see now a NL vs IT video hahaha. Very interesting though. I'm sure that some countries are better in organizing stuff. Although a big event like that usually stresses everybody out I think. Still nice to know that ou do appreciate the Netherlands' organization more now hahaha.

[@kimpelders4996]

In many European countries you can't drink tap water. That's why they use bottled water.

[@harrybruijs2614]

they have often two taps. When it says potable or potabile it is fit for consumption otherwise you can do your dishes with it and clean with it, including yourself. One time in Serbia the water was pink and it smelled worse then I a swimningpool

[@madamnicknack]

@@harrybruijs2614 And when you drank it, you'd become fluorescent? 😂

[@martina_trees]

In Italy tap water is fine almost everywhere, the issue may sometimes be with lead plumbings which I know is an issue with the older buildings in the Netherlands too. Sadly for some reason people are used to drinking bottled water and that is what they also offer at restaurants (mostly because they earn money from it). Recently most of the "bottled" water you pay for at restaurants is just a bottle refilled with tap water many times so its also a bit of a scam for the price

[@lullalalla8891]

As stated in another comment tap water is potable almost everywhere in Italy, and usually, the exceptions are some small islands. Feel free to drink as much tap water when there, just be aware that right now some regions are going through an unprecedented dry season. So they try to discourage the use of tap water when possible.

[@harrybruijs2614]

​@@madamnicknack I didn't even came close to drink it.

[@johannessugito1686]

Well, the Italians knew they are not talented in organizing. They hired some expert from The Netherlands with experience at the festival in Rotterdam to assist them. There was a Dutch TV program having interviews with Dutch managers working at the festival in Italy.

[@frdml01]

The great thing about Europe is that you cross a border and you are in a different world, a different culture, a different language. Used to be a different currency as well. The only things that are the same everywhere are IKEA, McDonalds and Starbucks. That even already applies to Belgium versus NL.

[@pppetra]

No IT starts when you enter the Randstad..

[@moladiver6817]

@@pppetra Another Calimero huh?

[@jeanettenfreeland1408]

Hello Jovie how are you?? Welcome back

[@autohmae]

7:21 it's funny to me you mentioned the Dutch kassa first, it probably says something about how well you are doing with becoming Dutch.

[@incompresa]

In Italian it's also "cassa" pronounced the same. 🤷‍♀️

[@bdscranton]

Hallo Jovie! I’m making my first of several trips to NL before I move there. I’m going to be there in October. Recommendations on places to eat? I’m going to be based out of Rotterdam, and taking day trips to Den Haag, Delf, Amsterdam, and maybe Gouda. Any suggestions would be great. Dankuwel.

[@hunchbackaudio]

If you go up north of Europe, to Scandinavia, the English will be sufficient. What I miss most in Italy, is some sanity in the local motorists.

[@tompiper9276]

No, it's not so bad once you figured out that the other motorists function more like pedestrians on a busy side walk. They all have their own personal space and respect others. Road rules are secondary. In addition the road sinage seems to tell you that you should have turned left 100 meters back. Relax and go with the flow. Oh, things get more informal the further south you go... Enjoy 😁

[@alhagiedrammeh1010]

Thank you so much for your lovely gift and wishing you all the best maybe see again 🇮🇹😃👍💪

[@ankavoskuilen1725]

The paying system, pay first, collect later, already existed in the seventies en nineties when I was in Italy. Apparently it works for them.

[@harrybruijs2614]

it at least creates more work. But there are more countries that do that, it is based on mistrust in your customers and staff.

[@tic-tacdrin-drinn1505]

​@@harrybruijs2614 It's based on ORGANIZATION.The cashier collects and the waiter prepares and serves. Money and Food are kept separately.

[@bjarneboy]

You must travel to Scandinavian countries. They are super organized. I'm from Denmark. I have been to Amsterdam several times. The Dutch and the Danes are very similar.

[@johnroekoek9864]

Gezellig = A certain time in a place, with or without people where you feel very comfortable and content. Alone - When you close your windows and light the candles in your favorite suit and relax and you feel comfortable and content, you can say next day: "Last night I made it gezellig, so I had good time". Agree?

[@irynaklein5503]

I moved to the Netherlands, particularly to The Hague 1 year ago. Agree, it’s wonderful and comfortable country, but regarding wifi, I can’t order wifi for all this time due to various reasons, just mainly the companies rearranged appointments and then didn’t show up. So I’ve been using only mobile internet. So sad

[@nimwey7701]

That is really weird, i don't know if you have internet trough a modem, but if so then you also have wi-fi

[@nourahnielson6204]

Are you going to share some videos of your time there?

[@dutchyjhome]

Hey Jovie, nice video ;-) Are you aware of the fact though that this time your footage was in mirror..? Usually the windows are at the right and now they were at the left, and the text at your hoodie was in mirror as well... Just so you know ;-)

[@gordonwallin2368]

Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.

[@harrybruijs2614]

they did probably not lend someone from Fiat to help with the organisation. If you travel by train the difference between Torino and the rest of Italy is staggering. The organisation of the communicationssystem is very strange every few km's another one. But food and views great and culture the best. Conclusion, you are very Dutchified.

[@elisabethbjork2717]

Try the nordic countries and you will see that almost everybody speaks english very well

[@jtinalexandria]

Not surprising no free tap water in Turin, Italy... there's a big drought around there now. Plus, the Turin area is known for loving bottled sparkling water.

[@floris-janvandermeulen8054]

Actually there's now a big drought in the Netherlands as well...

[@alhagiedrammeh1010]

It was very lovely for me me , because I meet lots of friends from other countries . It’s very truly that italiano don’t want to speak other languages only italiano.😃👍 it’s very true 👍

[@FG-nu1bg]

Hello, i would like to give some italian perspective on your "culture shoks" :) 1. regarding tap water is not usually served beacuse of course restorants gain money on selling you bottles of mineral water and at the other hand they probabibly think of giving a "poor" service to costumers giving them tap water. Lukily the environemtnal issue is raising up so most restaurantes use glass bottles the are "a rendere" so they ae cleande and reuse, and some restaurant is starting proposing tap water (quite rare to be honest). 2. Englis for italians is quite difficult to learn for many reasons: our edicational sistem focuses to much on grades instead of really speking a language (you have to try and make misteke in order to learn.. if you are avaluated every time you will be inhibited), dutch and english belong to the same language family, italian instead come from latin so spanish and franch are more easy to understand for us, moreover in Italy movie and series are allways dubbed so people lack exposure to foreing languages, starting a vicius loop. 3. Organization: i gree. Period. I don't know why. From school projects to work assignements, it's alwais a mess.. i swear we try our best but we all scrumble untill the last minute whe stuf magically happens. I wish i know why. Really. The drink stuf its weird..never hear about it. 4. Internet connection is not so bad.. probably depending on the area.. 5. actually there are secret pleces where you can by fresh pizza and croissants at 4 am. They are only known by locals and the secret is well keeped ;) 6. Rules regarding heating an cooling buildings are related to public places, offices and hotel, at hom you can do what you want 7. i traveld from US to Turkey and I've always, always, found some people smelling. Why? because we are human. Italians use deodorants. Period. But hot weather doesn't help. You can scrub your self with alccol but and the end of the they you will smell anyway. Moreover peopole do physica work and use public transportation and they not always have the chance to take a shower before coming home. Anyway nice video, looking things from other perspective always help to improve!!

[@alhagiedrammeh1010]

Ciao , hello , thank you for your lovely vodies I live in Italy Torino for 6 years now. I was in Euro village party for almost all the time because it was colse to my house 🏡

[@darinakalinova2180]

Haha Jovi, Italians are not living to work. The lifestyle there is significantly different to The Netherlands. If I want to really simplify a lot The Netherlands is more nordic culture while Italy is definitely southern. Happy summer time😊

[@ronaldderooij1774]

The coming winter, you will notice that the Netherlands too has laws about heating your house. Just wait. These are emergency laws, but I think they will be applied for the first time. I have been to Italy many times, also professionally. And to Greece as well. I describe it with my Dutch eyes as "an adorable chaos". Years later, I still wonder how everything turned out so good. How? Because I had, without exception also great times in Italy and Greece.

[@tic-tacdrin-drinn1505]

It seems chaotic to you because things may be approached differently. There are many ways to approach and resolve situations. Would you say that the Chinese or Arabic way of writing is messy just because it's so different from our alphabet? It works for them.

[@arankin2914]

I'm laughing while you're talking about the receipts, queueing in two places to buy things. I went to Naples for a few days and found some AMAZING bakeries. First time in Italy, I'm thinking I want to buy that cake now! I stand at the display and point to something. They just stare at me and point to another line of people. I was like ... why? That's so weird, who thought of that idea.

[@chubbymoth5810]

In the UK they will hang you for skipping the line. And then que back up in the correct order like civilised people do.

[@arankin2914]

@@chubbymoth5810 we're not talking about skipping lines. We're talking about having two different lines. One at the counter with the item you want to buy and another to pay for it.

[@MrNoncredo]

​@@arankin2914it is a hygienic rule pre-Covid , that whoever touches the food cannot touch the money

[@toaojjc]

Yay you're back!!!!!! Missed you!

[@elenalarrea5734]

I’m surprised by certain things. Like the deodorant situation as my experience in the Netherlands is that hygiene is quite lacking. As soon as the sun is out the smell of people is terrible. Not everyone, but the amount of people smelling bad as soon coats are off is shocking to me.

[@maartjewaterman1193]

I guess you have never been in a shower at an Italian camping during the weekend, where Italian women leave their menstrual cloths etc. lying on the floor or put them in the hole in the wand that is meant for putting soap in.. Nor even crossed a spot in Italian nature where Italian picknickers have been too lazy to take their rubbish, inclusing plastic bags and cups, home. I guess you as an Italian are not shocked by that but most foreigners are.

[@elenalarrea5734]

@@maartjewaterman1193 I’m not Italian nor have I ever been to an Italian camping 🤷‍♀️

[@MiguelJW]

Those aren’t Dutch people but Poles!

[@VulcanOnWheels]

4:50 Maybe I'm taking you to literally here, but not everyone in The Netherlands speaks English. Still, thank you for the compliment that you spoke a few seconds later. One thing about where we were -- not sure if this is true throughout Italy -- but I remember getting into an elevator in our hotel and having to choose a floor before the door closed! Why? Because as soon as the elevator door was closed, the light was off.

[@tic-tacdrin-drinn1505]

A single adventure with ONE elevator cannot be reason to judge an entire nation. How do you react when you encounter something unexpected somewhere?

[@mz8194]

The airconditioning rule should be world wide. Just open the window.

[@lidijabirsa7768]

..... and lower the blinds when you left the aptm!

[@alhagiedrammeh1010]

I study here in Italy but I want to move to other countries to see .

[@victorperlain]

The personal hygiene in older generations in Croatia is also in question...uh... Another subject: for gluten intolerant people (plus vegetarians like me) the snack machines are not an option, unless there is a potato salad in there, but l don't think so...lol

[@destiny035]

Tbh I usually don't drink tap water in Italy :) Tap water in the Netherlands is drinkable in the whole country. Organisation wise I can only say "Welcome to Italy". Also people in the north, in my experience, are more focused on the German language (around Lago Maggiore anyway) and in the south (Paestum, Napoli) English was pretty good. I got in a taxi in Spain, that guy didn't speak English too. So not just in Italy. The event with the bar line, strange. I do know that in autogrills and such (restaurants on the autostrada) you have to tell your order to one person, get a receipt and you go pay while they warm up your bread or something.

[@djkenny1202]

Surprised the food, end. I’d think Italy would be better. I loved The Netherlands, but food was just “okay”. Indonesian was just alright. Cycling access is what I especially love in the NL.

[@vincentgraziani6714]

7 things I missed about Italy while in the NL. 1. The people, 2. The culture, 3. The food, 4. The art, 5 The history, 6. The beauty, The fashion😊

[@janrobertbos]

...so....go back....................lol.........

[@escapefromzombieisland3690]

The US is worse..

[@jaybaker8938]

Any person can say that in all countries they visit. Haven't you got anything that isn't such a general thing? Something that refers to an actual, tangible difference?

[@vervideosgiros1156]

That card is pretty organized: you carry that card and when you leave you pay just one time, instead of wasting your and the bartender's time! You don't have to know in advance what you'll take: the cacheer writes in each square what drink you want to drink and at the end of the night you pay altogether. A card isn't even heavy so, what's the problem?! Besides that, it's a question of hygiene: it's pretty dirty to seeve drinks and grab money, which is the dirtiest think you could grab!

[@fabioflorio6922]

7 answers: 1) Italians don't like tap water (bottled water is cheaper than in Holland, that's why the Dutch drink tap water 2) Why haven't you tried speaking in French or Spanish? Maybe because you Americans can't speak other foreign languages? 3) Was disorganized Eurovision ... not all Italy 4) In Italy you have to get the receipt first for a matter of hygiene ... whoever touches the food must not touch the money (not like in Holland where whoever serves you touches everything) 5) The speed of the internet depends on how much you pay ... those who offer internet in public places pay the basic rate to the companies and are therefore very slow. 6) The shops that sell food in Italy open at 7 in the morning and close at 7 or 8 in the evening..... try looking for a food shop or a bar open in Amsterdam at 7 in the morning and then tell us how many you find; moreover, Italians do not eat food from machines, which is done in an industrial way (only Americans have the courage to eat it) 7) The rules for turning on the air conditioning depend on the city and the month. .... I won't comment on the use of deodorants ... evidently you haven't met a Dutch when he comes to Italy for summer holidays!

[@lidijabirsa7768]

👍👍👍👍👍And I'm not even Italian!!!

[@haniameziane274]

Hi Jovi!That's right people don't speak English but they try to do their best to help you ;) You can definitely ask for tap water if you want at least in Roma or Milano.the snack machines are not part of our food culture 😉 I am myself Italian living and working in the netherlands We have to be fair..there are also good sides in Italy that I miss here in the netherlands I personally prefer the Italian healthcare system since I'm struggling with the dutch one (no offense dutchies)

[@natalieb6956]

I'm not offended :). If it doesn't work for you and if we can improve things we should see how it goes in other countries as well. What are you struggeling with? Maybe someone can help you to figure things out. I can imagine when you come from another country it could be difficult to understand the system and where you need to go etc.

[@harrybruijs2614]

​@@natalieb6956 probably the huisarts

[@brabbo77]

how much envy of italy ;)

[@halapunjete]

By the same token, the Italians are so damn good at everything else, that it makes up massively for the few shortcomings. Think of all the brands Italy has given the world. Fashion is probably the most notable. Gucci, Armani, Prada, Fendi, Versacci, Dolce Gabbana etc. Think of the automotive industry. Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati, Fiat, Alpha Romeo, Pirelli, etc. Think of all the food and beverage brands like Nutella, Fererro, and Lavalla, or think of the Italian kitchen in general. I can go on and on. So before we take this opportunity to gloat about the Netherlands as we usually do in the comment section, just a friendly reminder that the Italians in general are so far ahead of us in every sense.

[@harrybruijs2614]

In every other sense you mean. Because when you have ever waited in Italy three hours for the train to come or tried to get something done from a official, you forget all those things. I once bought a first class ticket and got a second one and couldn't get it changed because the gentleman didn't talked a word outside the border and even seemed not to understand his own language. Primero is not Secundo or am I crazy. His younger and female college who spoke perfect English was not allowed to, because he was older and therefore manned the international desk while only speaking Italian. And then, in Second Class, you indeed discover, that some people in Italy smell, as there are in the Netherlands, but far more so. Eating garlic doesn't help but my girlfriend is Hindoestaans and never smells.

[@halapunjete]

@@harrybruijs2614 They may not be the most organized nation. But interestingly enough, Italy is one of the key manufacturers of trains in Europe. Same with perfumes and colognes.

[@madamnicknack]

@@halapunjeteEuhm, in 2012 the NS had lots of problems with Italian trains they had purchased. Mentioning Fyra to an NS-employee will give them headaches (it's not that I hate Italy, far from....)

[@martina_trees]

Your quality of life is not noticeably impacted by Gucci or Lamborghini unless you work for them. Life here is the worst of the whole UE. Young people with graduate degrees are getting paid 800 euros a month for a full time job, 12h a day. If you are in STEM you can hope for something better but you will most likely never get your pension. Italy's economy will probably crash in the next 10 years. Young people see no future here and are emigrating massively.

[@lullalalla8891]

​@@harrybruijs2614 Neither Primero or Secundo is italian. One is Spanish and the other is Ancient Latin, so that might be one of the reasons for your misunderstandings. When someone visits Italy or the Netherlands or any country for what it matters I always suggest learning some basic words of the local language, it really goes a long way. Another tip when in Italy is to try to speak French, older generations used to study that in school instead of English. On the other hand, I would please ask you to not carry on that racist stereotype of the smelly Italians. Come on, I am sure you are better than that Harry!

[@PApauloantonio]

Where are you from?

[@armandovanhaaren9823]

Be careful about tap water in other countries it's not like tap water in the Netherlands

[@escapefromzombieisland3690]

So, first the taxi drivers don't understand you & then they do?

[@LindaCasey]

🤣Oost, West, Thuis best 🤣

[@ChrisMcCandless77777]

Jovie i hope the whole world has your luxury problems. Sometimes i mis your power too relativize. But I notice you are really becoming a dutch girl😉🤪

[@escapefromzombieisland3690]

douche girl?

[@lazios]

I understand your audience is Dutch, I also understand that the organization (or the hotel) was not to your liking but smelly people (said with that voice?) ... really? People like you can (peacefully) not come to Italy, and this not because your opinions/criticisms. PS Yep, I'm one of the many Italians who don't speak English (sorry).

[@MrNoncredo]

ok ti senti in grado di giudicare un intero paese (nel titolo parli d'Italia e non esclusivamente di Torino) da una esperienza di una piccola vacanza di un weekend? ok do you feel able to judge an entire country (in the title you speak of Italy and not exclusively of Turin) from the experience of a small weekend break?

[@jacobroberts4106]

Please say hello to Daan for me. 🙋

[@e1calling763]

By the sound of your endless nagging you've becoming a proper Dutchie - you've turned into a real 'zeikwijf'. Complaining is definitely one of the Dutch' favourite pastimes. You've passed the final test. Congratulations 🤣

[@intersezioni]

I remind you that Italy is the third largest economy in Europe, the eighth in the world and the second industrial power after Germany, unlike Switzerland or Holland for example. 😉

[@harrybruijs2614]

yes but because of that we are not allowed to point out some peculiarities. Without this you would probably be the first economy in Europe. The Romans have proven you have it in you.

[@retardno002]

Haha enjoy it while it lasts, definitely downwards trend.

[@floris-janvandermeulen8054]

Unfortunately the quantity does not match the quality...

[@nachbarslumpi7093]

No reliable internet? Sounds very German 😂😂😂

[@HomeWorkouts_LS]

13:25 Actually, this is a very very new law in response to the Ukrainian war and energy from Russia. :(

[@TheMntnG]

work is not so important. taste is.

[@etenmaken9464]

This is sooooo funny, to me. You were in the North of Italy. The North is relatively organised, comparing to the South. Here you are with American and Dutch-coloured expectations/experiences traveling to a fundamentally chaotic country, where you have to live with whatever is thrown at you, but added to that: in the North you are confronted with lots of strange rules and customs. The combination is bound to result in lots of surprises and revelations. Which it clearly did!

[@stepheng9607]

I think you just have to go with the Italian spirit. We were on an Italian cruise ship once. The food was fantastic and the entertainment was phenomenal. Very stylish and clean. However the organisation was hilariously chaotic. You could just see the car crash of things getting more confused. The day before we entered Portugal, they decided that ship's time would not be changed to Portugal's time. So they had to explain this in seven languages before the show because people's smartphones might change automatically when they went ashore. Of course this caused total confusion. We were late leaving Portugal because no-one knew what time it was. But it was a wonderful experience.

[@-ParisTexas-]

Italy is VAGUE. Watch *La Grande Belleza* .

[@purplebox433]

I am half Italian and I work with Italy a lot. This is Italy not just your experience with Eurovision there. They blame EU for their economic decline, but the reality is, that in a global market if you are not efficient you don't exist. Regarding the air-conditioning, let's wait until this winter and see if you can still afford the heating. Have you tried "aperitivo" in an Italian restaurant? You pay for the drinks and food is all you can eat. :) I miss that.

[@janklaassen6404]

Cheaper than in the Netherlands?! Say no more, I'm going! I don't care about anything else!

[@hanspfaff3433]

😅

[@nachbarslumpi7093]

No releable internet? Sound very German 😱😱😱

[@cinziacioni8891]

why do you think that every Italian should speak English ? Try to learn some Italian words, if you travel try to respect the locale culture or stay in Holland. Holland is a "tax haven" despised by many

[@peterhaggerty7400]

😀😀👍

[@oruam5667]

I’m an Italian living in the Netherlands, the part about organisation made me laugh oh so hard! Here’s definitely better. Just one thing: I hope you kept your receipt. A genuine Italian receipt? That’s worth millions, it’s a very, very rare collectible! Oh and by the way, that AC law is not a thing. I’m afraid someone just wanted to save some bills money…

[@lillyblack3322]

In the south of Europe is a bad quality of water especially in touristic areas.

[@incompresa]

I mean some things for sure... internet is the worst in Italy and we are world-famous for our disorganization. 😅 As well as not being particularly good English speakers... oops. But other things... extremely weird and not representative of all of Italy. Not being able to get tap water is actually something that I find way more here than in Italy. You always get a glass of tap water when buying coffee even if you don't ask for it. And for the club experience where you had to buy everything in advance... never ever ever seen anything like that in Italy. It might have been a Eurovision thing because they were expecting a lot of people? No idea, but definitely not an Italian standard. One more thing... we can all buy deodorants!! We have easy access to deodorants! Please don't think that all Italian people smell bad, this is kind of a very old racist stereotype. 😞

[@lullalalla8891]

My jaw dropped when she mentioned that same old racist trope.

[@vincenzodigrande2070]

Italians aren't actually a different race though, and I think it would be much more 'racist' if she had just blamed the people, instead she blames the deodorant.

[@incompresa]

@@vincenzodigrande2070 please let's not. There are two options here: 1. She's implying that Italy is such a backward country that we don't even sell deodorant, or 2. She's implying that Italian people are smelly just because they are and decide to not use deodorant. Whatever it is here, they're both bad. I agree that we're not a different race, call it discrimination then. Italians and generally people from "the south of the world" have been discriminated against with this exact same excuse in the US since they first started emigrating there. There's a history of this type of thing that just should not pop up again in 2022. We should be over this.

[@JoviesHome]

I wasn’t implying anything. I shared my own experience, based on my own observations. I didn’t say everyone was smelly, but we definitely noticed more smells on our trip than in NL. Also, “Italian” isn’t a race and what I’m saying is not racism.

[@incompresa]

@@JoviesHome I'm sorry that this comment section is getting out of hand. I corrected myself about the "racism" thing and called it discrimination instead. The thing is that there are a lot of Italian people living in NL, I'm sure a lot of us follow you too and, while we recognize some of the things you mentioned, some other things and the last one in particular just don't resonate with us and we feel hurt by having this said about us on the internet. If you scroll through your comment section, you can already see some (apparently very nationalistic) Dutchies being very discriminatory towards the Italian people in general. I don't feel like we deserve it, and maybe your comments have been taken the wrong way by us or them (I hope by them) but still... this is not fostering a nice environment of discussion, it's just creating division.

[@gerbentvandeveen]

We went to the Wrong party of Qmusic. And just like at any concert or party in the Netherlands. Do you need to buy Coins. soda and beer is 1 Coins and if you go stronger then it is 2 or 3 Coins. I lost €40 for 11 Coins. You also have to buy this in advance, but then you can choose what you want to drink later. Greetings from Spakenburg, the Netherlands

[@shootingsportstransparency7461]

Frikandellen from FEBO,,, America has lost you and now I also understand Italian cuisine could no longer appeal to you

[@fransezomer]

Lol, this video made me laugh so hard! I remember being on a business trip to Milan a long time ago as a young VP-IT working for a large multinational. I had to get a whole lot of prerequisites agreed for an international IT-system rollout, like business cases and personnel reductions, a million legalities, license fees, management commitments, etc. My team and I got through the whole process within a week or so. Everybody was happy and we were about to leave the next day... Then the Country Manager walks into our last meeting and literally STARTS THE WHOLE PROCESS FROM THE BEGINNING! At some point I dragged him into a separate room and had to threaten him that I would change the rollout schedule and put Italy last in the country order, directly affecting his P&L, if he did not get back in line. When I talked to my CTO about it at HQ, all he had to say was: 'Typical... Italians...'. BTW the entirety of the Eurovision Italian hosting bits with Mika, Pausini and the other guy was such a mess! It looked as if they did not rehearse the show at all!

[@tompiper9276]

Rehearse 😆😅🤣!!

[@lorenzoruberto1500]

1) I was not allowed to give tap water in the restaurant I was working in the Netherlands and I know of other places where this i the case too; 2) no need to speak English for the average Joe in bigger European countries like France, Germany, Italy; 3) lunch breaks in many European countries are longer and it’s a given that shops/offices close for a couple of hours so that’s why you were confused; 4) this double line thing is also the case in several dutch restaurants, maybe you only go to upscale ones; 5) junk food you are referring to which is widespread in the Netherlands is not as accessible in Italy due to how unhealthy it is; 6) This AC law-> just open the window lol; 7) the comment on deodorant is quite ignorant, also have you tried taking public transport in big cities in the NL?? What a biased comment…; overall seems like you either live in the middle of nowhere in the Netherlands/live an upscale life and that you should learn to adapt to the rules/customs of the country you visit besides the NL.

[@retardno002]

1) wow, that's rare, have yet to encounter it in the NL in 3 and a half years of living here, 2) yes, business is international and we live in a global market, the internet is in English, any tourists that might visit will most likely speak English, the nationalist bullshit and dubbed movies and TV shows are to blame, the need is definitely there, 3) many European countries? the only ones I know about are Spain and now apparently Italy, 4) the double line thing is not something you can defend and after travelling to many countries, not something I ever encountered, it's the definition of inefficient and distrusting, 5) nice one, you could have prosciutto melone machines then, or serve something else at night, but it's hard finding good service during the day let alone at 4 AM, 6) greenhouse effect can make a room up to 20 C hotter than the ambient temp outside, not to mention a lot of hotels have windows that barely crack open, 7) the body odour is mainly a weather thing, not a hygiene thing, it can get really smelly in Dutch trains too when the mercury climbs above 25 C. And btw, before you call me a stupid American or whatever, I'm half Canadian and half Romanian, have lived in the UK and NL the past 10 years, speak all latin languages at a decent level (gotta admit, mainly Spanish and French, Italian and Portuguese less so), am fluent in English and Romanian, and can even read Russian and Greek. I've travelled a lot but the level of laziness and inefficiency that Mediterranean countries show is more akin to what I'd expect from countries like Romania and Bulgaria, not main players in the Western EU. Keep your excuses.

[@svengoessens7283]

😂 when you're in Italy you need to know that guy. a Guy for your drinks, a guy for your Internet, and a guy for snacks. And guy for the AC. Without a guy, special friend, or a cousin nothing goes smooth in Italy. 🙂

[@madamnicknack]

Hi Sven, how do I get 'a guy'? Trying to go next year for 6 weeks/2 months, partially working. I could use one. 😁

[@floris-janvandermeulen8054]

Can you please give me the name and phone number of that guy / these guys?

[@asaenco]

Most people, maybe exept maby old people speak very good English

[@tonys1636]

Welcome back, you were missed. Italians have never been known for their organisational skills, great design yes, and in the UK for Ice Cream Parlours and Hairdressing Salons in the past along with the Pizzeria and Coffee House, oh and very temperamental waiters and Chefs, who inspite of the temperament, which could be down to passion, cook wonderful food, just don't complain about it if not quite to one's liking.

[@joopspeth6483]

Though I saw on TV that het songfestival was partly organized by Dutch staff, hired in. Perhaps to prevent from total disaster.

[@ianp7661]

Italy was the least favourite country I have visited. They don't seem the like visitors. Italians are gonna be triggered by this video.

[@willy4170]

No actually even after 6 days, still no one “triggered” Why you didn’t like it?

[@DutchangelDaniela]

Yes, Italy is disorganized, network quality sucks, the opening times of places are a bit crazy because almost all services (not just shops have a “siesta” like break during the day that mostly is from 12:30-15.30.) and because mostly Saturday is a full working day, many restaurants, shops and services have an off day during the week. In some cases an entire town is picking the same day for closing. I used to live in Conegliano and on Mondays it used to look like a ghost town as everything was closed. The tap water quality in Italy is not always good and over the past couple of years when it’s hot in many places you get a legal limit on tap water use. Besides that Italy has many more options in spring water than the Netherlands and they are very strict about recycling (at least in the north) so buying bottled spring water doesn’t seem as horrible. Their inability to speak English used to be even worse and it used to drive me crazy. I’ve only lived there as a teenager, but my mom has been spending about 8 months of the year there for the past 30+ years so when she is there I get to hear this kind of stories every week.

[@swanvictor887]

Italians....disorganized...? Colour me shocked lol!

[@peggypolo3643]

Put things in perspective. Someone from Ukraine would have loved to trade places with you.

[@irynaklein5503]

So truuue😭

[@floris-janvandermeulen8054]

Trading places is not necessary. Ukrainians are very welcome here, and as long as the war there continues: no visa required. A few hundred metres of my place an old school is demolished to make way for housing a few hundred Ukrainians. And if they speak some English - there is plenty of well paid jobs for them as well.

[@irynaklein5503]

@@floris-janvandermeulen8054 , thank you for your information. These days I saw the statistics and according to that around 40% of all Ukrainian refugees in The Netherlands already found jobs mostly in hospitality . Really good that country provides opportunities to feel more independent even though person has a tough time 🇺🇦❤️🇳🇱

[@floris-janvandermeulen8054]

@@irynaklein5503 It's hard to imagine what it's like to be forced to leave your country. In a few weeks we can meet our new Ukranian neighbors and I have volunteered to help them find their way around Arnhem, my city. Get them bikes, and if necessary teach them how to ride, so they can move around independently. I think having a job (paid or as a volunteer) will take their minds off the situation back home. For kids this won't be a problem: they arrive here right at the time the school year is starting. For adults I think it will be harder. Of course, those with PTSD will need professional help.

[@irynaklein5503]

@@floris-janvandermeulen8054 , thank you for your solidarity and warm words. I’m blessed to live in such a wonderful country 🥰