70,000 APM LATE GAME! - Ketroc vs Caninana

70,000 APM LATE GAME! - Ketroc vs Caninana - Starcraft AI

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@asdfasdfasdf1218 2 ай бұрын

At 20:24 the resources lost jumps up for Ketroc by about 10k so it seems like repair loss is counted when the building is destroyed.

@LaughNgamez 2 ай бұрын

Wow great catch! Definitely didn't know that but I wonder if it does that for units getting repaired too.

@Ketroc 2 ай бұрын

@@LaughNgamez ya, units lost includes all repair costs... but only if the repaired unit dies. The time and cost of a full repair is 25% of the production time and cost. Once corruptors charge up to that 5x damage mode, the repair cost is very significant.

@Markfr0mCanada Ай бұрын

Interesting stuff to learn, but it would be better if repair costs were counted at the time of repair. BC wave for example is efficient (if done right), but not free.

@Ketroc Ай бұрын

@@Markfr0mCanada ya, at most a BC costs 100/75 to repair. So Yamato 1 unit and jump away is barely profitable if the BC loses all its HP in the process. When you account for lost mining to repair, opportunity cost on the BC cooldowns, and chance to lose the BC, it's pretty bad to roam with BCs only enemy antiair is strong.

@symmetricat188 2 ай бұрын

Resources lost on repair should definitely be integrated. That one ling, though...

@viliuskukanauskas6902 2 ай бұрын

at 2:40 the ling run by stopped the barracks from landing, that broke bots mind :D

@Zilican 2 ай бұрын

Nah there was already a supply depot there, which is weird, did the bot misplay?

@TheAgavi Ай бұрын

I really enjoy your commentary and nobody else is casting bot games, man. I watch so much sc2 and it's awesome to have something different to watch. Subscribed. More bots!

@philmiller2465 Ай бұрын

I haven't seen any bots land vikings. Is that a game version thing, or just none of them are programmed to? Like with burrow micro, it seems like something bots could use way more effectively than humans.

@anarchosnowflakist786 Ай бұрын

I'm not sure but it seems like in the end repairing that planetary might not have been a mistake because for all that time ketroc was mining caninana's gas, and in the end lack of gas was what killed it

@ciCCapROSTi 2 ай бұрын

You can simply direct missiles turrets where to attack.

@Knowbody42 2 ай бұрын

yeah, but a human can't tell the turret to just not attack anything when there is _something_ in range. You can tell a unit to move command, and it won't attack things while moving. There is no move command for buildings (well, except for lifted/uprooted buildings)

@ciCCapROSTi 2 ай бұрын

@@Knowbody42 you can spam stop though.

@kirvanp Ай бұрын

corrupter 35 dps * 5 = 175 PF hit points = 1500 8.57s to kill the PF Full repair cost 138 + 38 138/8.57 =16.103 min/s 38/8.57 =4.434 gas / s Mineral Cost of attack = 16.103 * 60 = 966 min / min Gas Cost of attack = 266 gas / min

@leafykille Ай бұрын

Surprisingly close, nice game :)

@Eliteownage Ай бұрын

GG, max game length is actually set to 1 hour on the ladder, so there was actually plenty of time

@maestro56777 Ай бұрын

Is SSCAIT done for? I haven't watched them in years and don't see any new uploads:(

@StevenNess 2 ай бұрын

MOAR BOTZ! too bad they retired Alphazero

@FlyWR Ай бұрын

Rather alphastar. Alphazero was for board games IIRC

@StevenNess Ай бұрын

@@FlyWR yes! Right! Thank you 🙏

@commonwombat-h6r 2 ай бұрын

i wonder why the zerg bot never produced vipers. Fungal growth + parasitic bomb should have been very effective against terran's sky army

@brandonsaffell4100 Ай бұрын

Most zerg bots are not programmed to use vipers. We might speculate about the "eat your buildings for energy" mechanic. Regardless, building vipers is rarely programmed into zerg bots.

@ratoshovit Ай бұрын

Caninana has Viper support, but based on enemy composition it decided to not use them as with that many Vikings they most likely will be killed before casting a spell. It considers fungals and neurals a better option.