70-years-old master of long pimple rubber

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table tennis "PingSunday EmRatThich"

table tennis "PingSunday EmRatThich"

Күн бұрын

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@robertfolks5590
@robertfolks5590 2 жыл бұрын
I am 84 and still playing in the Birmingham League. It's great for keeping fit. 👍👍👍
@GhanaTableTennis
@GhanaTableTennis 3 жыл бұрын
The energy level,speed and skill of this old man, is impressive.
@killseacocks
@killseacocks 2 жыл бұрын
I am 72 and I can beat him easily.
@GhanaTableTennis
@GhanaTableTennis 2 жыл бұрын
@@killseacocks @coach we have a grudge match on our hands. Between Lucas who is 72 and your 70 year old long pimps master
@Lol-ej2uh
@Lol-ej2uh 2 жыл бұрын
@@killseacocks Yeah he doens't do anything more than just block with this long pimple without moving much. Everyone can do that.
@eloimumford5247
@eloimumford5247 2 жыл бұрын
Ping pong is the secret for longevity and the road to alertness , getting old should not mean being less , just mean we have to work harder to keep the rust away ! Thanks Coach.
@darrylkassle361
@darrylkassle361 3 жыл бұрын
I would not of believed this had I experienced it personally. When I was playing local A grade A1 I was in the top 5 of local seniors comp and I was the A1 junior.. This is in Australia. In Melbourne actually. On practice night one day an old. Vietnamese- Cambodian guy came with a family that used to play lower grade like C and d grade. They asked me to play their grandfather and the younger guy around 50 his son said just play his good he used to represent his country. He was a chopper but he was like 70-75 any way I could not beat him and I had a very powerful loop kill forehand. The son could tell I wa incredulous and thought and could tell I thought it was a joke. I was only 16-17 then and used to play in state tournaments. If I had not experienced it I would of definitely been commenting that this is not possible. That is another thing I love about table tennis you can be small, big, old or young and you still have a good chance of competing satisfactorily. It’s the great equalizer in a certain sense!!!
@bruce3906
@bruce3906 3 жыл бұрын
i wish i'm fit and healthy enough to play table tennis at 70 years old in future.
@bobmalack481
@bobmalack481 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I m 66 now and I can clearly move faster and with more flexibility than this guy. He is very stiff, but skillful with his wrist and hands. He uses traditional penhold which is practically dead after Ma Lin era. RVP/RPB is the more modern superior penhold style which I use. I pattern after Wang Hao.
@lildavey09
@lildavey09 3 жыл бұрын
Also, the young player is putting almost all his shots to the backhand court, no variation, no middle or FH placement. Every shot to the BH makes it easy for the Uncle to just stand and control the court.
@limanson3927
@limanson3927 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@mariomoraga3891
@mariomoraga3891 3 жыл бұрын
That is what defensive players force you to do. Especially the ones who play with a tacky rubber.
@nanookamotocnc
@nanookamotocnc 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think he is a pro, his skill is less than some of my friends who are just occasional university players. He is just an average amateur club player, who has got no variation, no adjustment and can't even make a consistent top spin drive, which is a must if you want to be a serious ping pong player.
@damiancasanova6549
@damiancasanova6549 11 ай бұрын
I see so many people saying what the young player should have done, but i want to see each one of them play the pips guys. Everything looks easy or clearer from outside.
@pitzburgscotish
@pitzburgscotish 2 жыл бұрын
Generally speaking,the long pimp rubber is very suitable for the aged players' usage. Its advantage can allow the aged players have few needs to play ping ping games vigorously or intensely with one another in games as well as its unique performance features often interferes with mediocre players' judgement for balls in games. In general,it's a kinda tricky weapons.
@meenakshisundaramvenkatach8044
@meenakshisundaramvenkatach8044 2 жыл бұрын
I am 73 years old I am having passion playing table tennis. Still I am playing. Hats off to the young old man. Super.
@buckrogers5331
@buckrogers5331 2 жыл бұрын
You should show what is the long pimple rubber vs the inverted rubber.
@ChessArmyCommander
@ChessArmyCommander 3 жыл бұрын
Don't listen to the comments that act like the pimple player should lose if only the spinny rubber player knows what they are doing. That's bullshit. A pimple rubber player almost won the world championships not that long ago. Early 2000s. Playing a modern defensive game with pips.
@urbanknight2808
@urbanknight2808 3 жыл бұрын
if my memory is correct, this old man won a single title in the world veteran table tennis championship 11 years ago.
@jennyovtcharov11
@jennyovtcharov11 3 жыл бұрын
His serve is awesome!
@pingsunday
@pingsunday 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Jenny, nice to meet you here. I'm fan of your @TTSmashCity
@604painters
@604painters 3 жыл бұрын
most of his "awesome" serves were illegal. Basement rec style with the toss going 2 inches up instead of the required 6
@임엘리사-q5q
@임엘리사-q5q 3 жыл бұрын
극찬합니다. 저 정도, 젊은 선수의 실력은 프로 수준에 가깝습니다. 옹에게 찬사를 보냅니다.
@apudas4615
@apudas4615 3 жыл бұрын
Long pimple rubber works like antipower when someone defence, but its pimples work like spin when attack and chop.
@l.franfort6340
@l.franfort6340 3 жыл бұрын
I know a player playing the same and all I have remembered is to never push cause is a gift for this TT style.
@egghead1969
@egghead1969 3 жыл бұрын
That is how to play against LP in the 1st basic step now, push-attack-push-attack. Put it this way, if you cannot attack the LP's push (拱), it is hard for you to win. I believed that kid had a court-side coach. YOu could see he changed his tactic and this forced the old players to start twiddling.
@jasv49
@jasv49 Жыл бұрын
The one in a million LP players who does more with it than push and wait for opponent mistakes, respect
@jk9111
@jk9111 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, well said. If you want to win the pimple player, you need to make him move.
@a.m.9466
@a.m.9466 3 жыл бұрын
About 30-40% of the 70 yr. old serves are illegal, he doesn't throw the ball up high enough and sometimes he doesn't pull his free arm back. BUT, I like to practice with a pip penholder type of player before I go to a tournament.
@renechavarriaportillo3398
@renechavarriaportillo3398 Жыл бұрын
Cual podría ser una combinación de hules : long piples en el back y liso o inverted en el forehand? Que rubber puede sugerir? Gracias
@tabletennisgoosebumps1104
@tabletennisgoosebumps1104 3 жыл бұрын
The young player was playing a lot of aggressive shots where the uncle was standing so it became easy for the uncle to block.It would be quite hard for the uncle if the young players attacked on deep forehand.
@DaigoParry
@DaigoParry 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading this. This makes TT interesting for me again.
@stephdechatillon6591
@stephdechatillon6591 3 жыл бұрын
Well played by uncle pimp, but hard to believe the young player is a professional. He seems completely lost and unable to develop his game or to overspeed uncle pimp.
@chrisooi5545
@chrisooi5545 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. A young pro playing like a headless chicken? Nah, probably not even good enough to be a province player.
@ramonbannister9498
@ramonbannister9498 3 жыл бұрын
Agree.
@nanookamotocnc
@nanookamotocnc 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisooi5545 Definitely not good enough to be even a provincial level amateur player
@ploui6414
@ploui6414 2 жыл бұрын
Young player is letting old guy control the table. The red player does well when he hits deep because old guy is pushing his short balls side to side throwing young guy out of position to loop him. Oldie is playing belly-to-table so young guy needs to play deep and cause him to just block it back.
@rotallud3485
@rotallud3485 3 жыл бұрын
are his serves legal with that low toss?
@RamilTabiolo
@RamilTabiolo Жыл бұрын
Super good player old guy also we have here also in philippines 70 years old still playing and also very good he still can beat a young generation😊 bravo👏👏👏
@cpasvraiyouman
@cpasvraiyouman 2 жыл бұрын
Which blade and long pips uses wonderful uncle ? Very impressive
@adriandanan2124
@adriandanan2124 3 жыл бұрын
Uncle Wang Yin is very² good skill, good technique,good serve..
@technoxtreme178
@technoxtreme178 3 жыл бұрын
I play long pips and have beaten players who were much better/younger/talented than me because they do not understand the spin reversal. (I am 63). Berating the 70-year old because he does not move like someone 1/3 his age is just wrong; I would be so happy to have that physical condition at 70. I would like to know his blade and forehand/backhand rubber types??
@MaximeTanti
@MaximeTanti 3 жыл бұрын
Who is berating him?
@Aku-mg2go
@Aku-mg2go 3 жыл бұрын
I guess the old man played with a Super Block rubber types... a different type of long pips common rubber
@abdrazak8310
@abdrazak8310 3 жыл бұрын
Thibar grass d.tec....ball is short
@darrylkassle361
@darrylkassle361 3 жыл бұрын
@@MaximeTanti that’s what I thought. I think he means when Emrat says you must make him move as a tactic to counter the pips. I am sure he did not mean anything personally he was just pointing out that that is what would work. You can tell Emrat is actually resptful and has admiration for the old guy. The guy that thought his berating him has perceived his comment incorrectly.
@permyakovkirill2195
@permyakovkirill2195 2 жыл бұрын
The guy had to play without power, since the old man passed all this power back to him through the pimples. I play with pimples myself, but if they play with me without power, I turn the racket over and attack, the style of holding the racket at the old man does not imply an attack with rubber)
@thomasleifseth5201
@thomasleifseth5201 3 жыл бұрын
this uncle reminds of a player in my club, he does the same. He only push or block ball back and ball placement is so good. Some people dont understand how they loose against him, its the worst players i can play is this kind. Ball is so loose/no spin i shoot the net or over the table or loose to placement
@luisarielcorrogutierrez
@luisarielcorrogutierrez 2 жыл бұрын
Buenas tardes, tendrá videos de jugadores que usen puntitos largos pero que sean sheakhand?
@elllllllllaija1163
@elllllllllaija1163 3 жыл бұрын
Where do u find those videos? Would be good to get a link
@shazalishaharuddin7220
@shazalishaharuddin7220 2 жыл бұрын
Long pimpled rubber is tricky, esp when the player rotate the bat, It can cancel spin or feign a spin,
@alfonsochavez1310
@alfonsochavez1310 25 күн бұрын
Disculpen... alguien sabe que gomas utiliza... soy Alfonso chAvez de México... tengo 64 años...y hacia llorar a Marcos Madrid cuando tenía 6 años 😎
@황민순-u1r
@황민순-u1r 2 жыл бұрын
내 이래서 탁구가 좋아.. 노후대비 최고운동!!!! 역시 펙홀더는 쇼트야!!!
@z0uLess
@z0uLess 2 жыл бұрын
those kids shouting in the background give me an eerie feeling
@odrauderojas2576
@odrauderojas2576 3 жыл бұрын
Jugué durante años contra masters que usaban gomas con pinchos. Es realmente difícil.
@The144Kth
@The144Kth 3 жыл бұрын
Only the young think 70 is old. I am 65 and I am now faster and more agile than when I was in my 20s.
@duonghanh6251
@duonghanh6251 3 жыл бұрын
anh có thể chia sẻ bí quyết được kg ? làm sao de nhanh nhẹn như 20 tuổi 👍👍👍
@RickAnderson1
@RickAnderson1 Жыл бұрын
you don't say that someone is "ignorant" about a rubber. You say they are "inexperienced".
@glendaubney9633
@glendaubney9633 6 ай бұрын
Inspirational !
@davehess1982
@davehess1982 3 жыл бұрын
Why do they use the net so loosely?🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐
@anhngoceducationtv
@anhngoceducationtv 3 жыл бұрын
Very good!quá tuyệt vời khi cụ đã lớn tuổi mà đánh vợt dọc rất hiệu quả
@HansDampf5
@HansDampf5 3 жыл бұрын
A year ago I lost against a player exactly played the same way. It was in Germany but he was a Chinese player from Shanghai. I lost in the final set and he was about 70 years too. Normally I like playing against long pimples but these style was new to me. He finally lost in the final of the tournament against a half pro player.
@Skrippykrotangler
@Skrippykrotangler 3 жыл бұрын
You don't see long pips played this aggressively much. Very impressive. I am not good enough to beat a good pips player with my inverted rubbers, so I would probably try and beat a pips player using a blade with anti-spin rubber on my backhand. The pips player use your spin against you, therefore, anti-spin rubber and technique is a good alternative for intermediate player, maybe even professional. Thoughts?
@ΝτίνοςΠετράκης-ο7σ
@ΝτίνοςΠετράκης-ο7σ 3 жыл бұрын
It needs a lot of patience when play again someone with long pips (either he plays as a classic chopper, either he pushes with them), as they reverse your spin. If you keep that always in your mind while playing and if you are quite consistent with your attacks, 8 out of 10 times you will win. I would recommend you, especially if you are young, keep on using the inverted rubbers, both sides.
@nickclarke4926
@nickclarke4926 2 жыл бұрын
Pimples out should be banned! TT is the only racket sport where different equipment can drastically change a person’s results! After a few weeks of practice long pips can add a few points to anyones game, what’s the point! Win at all cost? Not for me! I’ve seen too many youngsters put off the sport for life by pip players! Nick (level 4 coach)
@AcheLone
@AcheLone Жыл бұрын
@@nickclarke4926 long pip are not OP equipment. nothing does. it has certain playing areas where they excel and that is true. long pips also require a lot of training to be at higher level such as the grandpa in the video. most high level very rarely using long pips and there are reasons for it.
@bastiaensS
@bastiaensS 3 жыл бұрын
Does he play one side short pimps & one side long?
@stevemor165
@stevemor165 3 жыл бұрын
The young man's handshake at the end was too casual.
@604painters
@604painters 3 жыл бұрын
it doesn't actually qualify as a "hand shake". He was frustrated and last thing on earth he wanted to do was to shake the guys hand. So he didn't
@emiliosaure9261
@emiliosaure9261 3 жыл бұрын
the red player is the defensive player
@Golden-Boy-
@Golden-Boy- 3 жыл бұрын
this is way table tennis is the best Sport. you are never to old fore table tennis
@ikaros21
@ikaros21 Жыл бұрын
it's actually easier to master a long pimple rubber, that's the reason why you see this 70 year old gentleman competing at such a high level. He would not be on the same league playing with a smooth rubber!
@bobik3788
@bobik3788 11 ай бұрын
You are wrong
@ikaros21
@ikaros21 3 ай бұрын
@@bobik3788 Why is that?
@gfdggdfgdgf
@gfdggdfgdgf 2 жыл бұрын
Not mentioned: his long pips rubber is not legal, the pips are softened and enlarged.
@Ivan_tmb
@Ivan_tmb 3 жыл бұрын
impossible to beat grandfather so badly working with your feet
@phieutran565
@phieutran565 2 жыл бұрын
Anh Ban Gìa kinh nghiêm Gìa gįån qúa !
@chrisooi5545
@chrisooi5545 3 жыл бұрын
It is strange to say "His long pimple rubber is unpredictable". But, long pips IS predictable. But perhaps I may have misunderstood what you meant.
@ndragon88
@ndragon88 3 жыл бұрын
Does he play Dawei 388d-1 extra long or whatever those treated LPs are called?
@Aku-mg2go
@Aku-mg2go 3 жыл бұрын
I guess the old man played with a Super Block rubber types... a different type of long pips common rubber
@ndragon88
@ndragon88 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aku-mg2go those are banned though. Even in China in a match like this I don't think he would use it. But I've seen China sell a couple of treated pips but it's legal because it's done in factory similar to factory boosted inverted rubbers
@TuanNguyen-xk2vb
@TuanNguyen-xk2vb 2 жыл бұрын
Very good
@madtaqwachannel
@madtaqwachannel 3 жыл бұрын
The Young Guy "KOYAK"
@Questioneverything72
@Questioneverything72 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo to him at this age. But many of his serves are against nowadays rules. He doesn’t toss the ball high enough. And the referee apparently doesn’t know or letting it go.
@slannastro2023
@slannastro2023 3 жыл бұрын
Does long pimple rubber illegal in professional competition? Long pimple rubber deflate the power of rotation. That is not fair.
@乒乓杂货铺
@乒乓杂货铺 3 жыл бұрын
You konw this is china
@martinjandijkstra3205
@martinjandijkstra3205 3 жыл бұрын
Ofcourse they are fair. But some people dont know what to do and think it is not fair.
@Dreamer23245
@Dreamer23245 2 жыл бұрын
i have myself a long pimple rubber too. i don't use it that way though..
@СергейБарлет-ч7ч
@СергейБарлет-ч7ч 3 жыл бұрын
Если у него длинные шипы, это совсем не значит что он игрок защиты, от играет активным блоком в атаке! Не вводите людей в заблуждение!
@keke5662
@keke5662 3 жыл бұрын
At 7:15 the young man leads 9-5, then the old man has two faults, how could he win the set?
@dwarfrom
@dwarfrom 3 жыл бұрын
cheater
@hadiwuu6147
@hadiwuu6147 3 жыл бұрын
What fault?
@nwcwww
@nwcwww 3 жыл бұрын
Not entirely sure but I guess the first one didn't count. The young chap just served twice (from 8-4 to 9-5) and it should be the senior's turn. Instead it was still the young player serving.
@DHUUSS
@DHUUSS 3 жыл бұрын
Спасибо братух за хороший контент!
@yagoaguero88
@yagoaguero88 3 жыл бұрын
rotate the paddle = twiddle. Looks to me like he only has pimples on the black side... he is not just blocking, he is clearly attacking tho. Often coaches don't teach students what is going on with the long pimples!! it happened to me!
@vutrung12345
@vutrung12345 5 ай бұрын
Why nobody pros use that style of defence in any tournament?
@bakervinci163
@bakervinci163 3 жыл бұрын
I think the young pro was being respectful of the uncle
@bakervinci163
@bakervinci163 3 жыл бұрын
Respect and family values seems to carry a greater weight in China
@hokeekeng2166
@hokeekeng2166 3 жыл бұрын
@@bakervinci163 u are kidding
@604painters
@604painters 3 жыл бұрын
if you're implying that the young guy wasn't trying as hard as he could have because he was being "respectful" you are 100% incorrect. The young guy couldn't handle the rubber and got frustrated. The young guy actually showed disrespect at the end by not actually shaking the older guys hand.
@nanookamotocnc
@nanookamotocnc 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think he is a pro, his skill is less than some of my friends who are just occasional university players. He is just an average amateur club player, who has got no variation and can't even make a consistent top spin drive ( which is a must if you want to be a serious ping pong player).
@abdrazak8310
@abdrazak8310 3 жыл бұрын
The young boy..serve....the problem come back to him...
@user-SahiShegebaev1960
@user-SahiShegebaev1960 3 жыл бұрын
Бәәәрекелді!
@FreyFahren
@FreyFahren 2 жыл бұрын
Great💪
@pgirl2400
@pgirl2400 3 жыл бұрын
Would you pls explain how to play with short pimps forehand... [Rakza po]
@ВладимирНаугольный-х4о
@ВладимирНаугольный-х4о 2 жыл бұрын
Я не мастер и мне 70. Игра этого мастера НЕ впечатляет.
@masdikaaa_
@masdikaaa_ 3 жыл бұрын
Jadi pingin main sama kakek ini. Hehehe
@icelolliyt6357
@icelolliyt6357 2 жыл бұрын
If an uncle stand still, play it on the middle so he has no space
@ОлегБерезнев-н3з
@ОлегБерезнев-н3з 2 жыл бұрын
The guy clearly lacks a topspin on the left
@Rog5446
@Rog5446 2 жыл бұрын
Are you sure he's 70, as he looks, moves and plays like an 85 year old?
@pingspiritpingspirit4099
@pingspiritpingspirit4099 2 жыл бұрын
Respect 老师
@taarishmittal9608
@taarishmittal9608 3 жыл бұрын
Sir in my academy there is 79 years old
@dadidu9417
@dadidu9417 3 жыл бұрын
Play with use long pimple do not raley n just control must attack all time..
@leonardoluc6362
@leonardoluc6362 2 жыл бұрын
Nightmare to play against pipper the pip at least this old man has skills.
@dragondragon8689
@dragondragon8689 2 жыл бұрын
年輕時說不定也是國手 顆粒面不只防守也有攻擊力
@tnvol5331
@tnvol5331 2 жыл бұрын
The young player gave the older player a big advantage by allowing him to serve illegally.
@SSJ-Catania
@SSJ-Catania 3 жыл бұрын
Both are penholder.
@hokeekeng2166
@hokeekeng2166 3 жыл бұрын
Win refer to as beijing area team or who and who sparring partner, lose to elderly man is refer to as young man
@warrenewing5728
@warrenewing5728 3 жыл бұрын
Why did the young player not serve or play wide to the mans forehand, and then he would have to move to play backhand. The younger man played to the mans strengths over and over again. Not smart.
@nanookamotocnc
@nanookamotocnc 3 жыл бұрын
He is just an amateur club level player, not a pro
@paidjan1239
@paidjan1239 2 жыл бұрын
Di Indonesia usia 70 th lebih banyak yg mampu main seperti itu aku berani lawan pal itu. 😄
@Жэк
@Жэк 3 жыл бұрын
70 лет прыщавому мастеру.
@fermosofiore1336
@fermosofiore1336 3 жыл бұрын
more like if you make an old people move like young people youll get disliked and be called dishonorable to the elderly so hes playing it safe
@scottbaker-ScottyB
@scottbaker-ScottyB 2 жыл бұрын
Net tension loose
@Разборкимеждустримерамииблогер
@Разборкимеждустримерамииблогер 2 жыл бұрын
То что играет короткими шипами это необорона, а атака
@shanelawson5072
@shanelawson5072 2 жыл бұрын
70...?!? He looks at least 85yo. Lol.
@bigperson5568
@bigperson5568 Жыл бұрын
Both of them are amateur players. The beginning of the video showed the Chinese words of this tournament
@enisnaeni249
@enisnaeni249 2 жыл бұрын
Waw begitu kuat bapa usia lanjut tapi tetap sehat dan kuat
@AOV_yutiensu
@AOV_yutiensu 2 жыл бұрын
看年輕人感覺他打起來很陌生 腳步節奏都被伯伯的顆粒影響了
@СергейГригорьев-в1г
@СергейГригорьев-в1г 2 жыл бұрын
Перевод на экране долго держится!!! Невидно нихрена аа!!!
@maloghurst2741
@maloghurst2741 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see him against real top rated pro. Just for fun
@naka23
@naka23 3 жыл бұрын
「長いにきびゴム」という訳が面白い、直訳なんでしょうね。
@pippus59
@pippus59 2 жыл бұрын
70 years old is not ...old!
@andreika6681
@andreika6681 2 жыл бұрын
you observe "young man", he does alternate his responses to long pips, so, he DOES know styles. old dude is just better than him, commenter may just lack attention here
@nelsonnoronha2565
@nelsonnoronha2565 2 жыл бұрын
I can defeat this uncle it is piece of cake, this kind of players should be delt carefully, specially shot pimps, while serving them serve shot with heavy underspin, otherwise they get to ur nerves. It looks you dealing with a chopper, if you don't read their spin your done, While playing with these players an opponent should play mid to close, serve long fast serve straight to the body to gain points, that's it
@Teluric2
@Teluric2 2 жыл бұрын
Yeh I can date any supermodel
@glennlubomirskynovitch3254
@glennlubomirskynovitch3254 3 жыл бұрын
This long pimples is forbidden nowadays by ittf law.
@604painters
@604painters 3 жыл бұрын
there are currently over 20 long pips rubbers allowed by the ittf. equipments.ittf.com/#/equipments/racket_coverings 61 second Wind FT 115-001 Red,Black 2 Colors Long - No Artist61 second Image Artist61 second 61 second Artist 115-004 Red,Black 2 Colors Long Expiry Dates No Cobra61 second Representational image of Racket Covering Cobra61 second 61 second Cobra 115-007 Red,Black 2 Colors Long - No UpupupupAir Image UpupupupAir Air Upupupup 106-003 Red,Black 2 Colors Long - No L3Akkadi Image L3Akkadi Akkadi L3 95-005 Red,Black 2 Colors Long - No ChaosAndro Image ChaosAndro Andro Chaos 03-006 Red,Black 2 Colors Long - No Rasant ChaosAndro Image Rasant ChaosAndro Andro Rasant Chaos 03-034 Red,Black 2 Colors Long - No TwisterArmstrong Image TwisterArmstrong Armstrong Twister - Red,Black 2 Colors Long - No MoAvalox / AVX Image MoAvalox / AVX Avalox / AVX Mo - Red,Black 2 Colors Long - No Legend LongBarna Original Image Legend LongBarna Original Barna Original Legend Long 193-003 Red,Black 2 Colors Long - No Classic DefenceBarna Original Image Classic DefenceBarna Original Barna Original Classic Defence 193-004 Red,Black 2 Colors Long - No TalentBomb Image TalentBomb Bomb Talent - Red,Black 2 Colors Long - No Ilius BButterfly Image Ilius BButterfly Butterfly Ilius B 14-042 Red,Black 2 Colors Long - Yes Ilius SButterfly Image Ilius SButterfly Butterfly Ilius S 14-043 Red,Black 2 Colors Long - Yes Feint AGButterfly Image Feint AGButterfly Butterfly Feint AG - Red,Black 2 Colors Long - No Feint Long IIButterfly Image Feint Long IIButterfly Butterfly Feint Long II - Red,Black 2 Colors Long - No Feint Long IIIButterfly Image Feint Long IIIButterfly Butterfly Feint Long III - Red,Black 2 Colors Long - No Feint-OxButterfly Image Feint-OxButterfly Butterfly Feint-Ox - Red,Black 2 Colors Long - No Feint-SoftButterfly Image Feint-SoftButterfly Butterfly Feint-Soft - Red,Black 2 Colors Long - No JayroDarker Image JayroDarker Darker Jayro 19-002 Red,Black 2 Colors Long - No
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