Lock: "100% resistant to picking" LPL: "sounds like a false marketing suit to me"
@blackthrone69764 жыл бұрын
Picking Resistant isn't Picking Proof. Yeah, it's hard, but not impossible...
@Sip_Dhit4 жыл бұрын
If you resist damage 100% it means you're immune, but if you're restrained struggling 100% doesnt mean you're free, so 100% resistance could go either way
@TimLF4 жыл бұрын
They just round it up; LPL is 1/8,000,000,000 so accurate to 8 orders of magnitude
@Bikertrons3 жыл бұрын
well thank fuck he's a lawyer
@vast6343 жыл бұрын
It might be opened by an expert in his lab, but that does not mean its not pick proof from an average picker at an actual door (with limited time and not knowing the lock and key).
@AalbertTorsius6 жыл бұрын
"Bill, thanks for giving me a shot." How's the leg?
@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja3 жыл бұрын
He did say that, didn't he?
@kman17596 жыл бұрын
You know it's gonna be difficult when the key looks like a saw
@MrSonny61556 жыл бұрын
It's actually a message to the picker to use a saw instead because you are gonna have an easier time.
@solidus31686 жыл бұрын
BZZZZZZ a drill
@ericsarchive77185 жыл бұрын
All that does is turn a 30 second video into a 2 minute video.
@Kadeo-ms6qw5 жыл бұрын
EricsArchive but it’s still easier than picking
@amandajensen33824 жыл бұрын
Nasty bitting, lol
@hightttech6 жыл бұрын
ad says, "cannot be picked" ... LPL says, "Open mouth, insert foot, chew vigorously."
@bertrandhustle6 жыл бұрын
"This lock is advertised as unpickable, looks like I got it open in 26 seconds."
@thomasblake51745 жыл бұрын
Nice
@Papinak22 жыл бұрын
I have one minor and one major remark: the eurocylinder is usually mounted upside down. But it also needs a full rotation or two, to actually unlock. Half rotation is needed to just engage the lever, while you left it in 90° position
@DannyGraves1775 Жыл бұрын
That's why the gods of lockpicking invented plugspinners 😉
@youtube.commentator6 жыл бұрын
LPL - I saw you switch between picks, without knowing how the key was designed, would you have used the same strategy?
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
Yes. When I move between pins, I ride my pick on the pin I just picked. That makes it fairly obvious when I can’t reach a pin. That’s one of the reasons I always go front to back. 👍
@youtube.commentator6 жыл бұрын
LockPickingLawyer awesome, thanks!
@jrmbayne6 жыл бұрын
Amazing tip. I've accidentally done that a few times while counting pins, will remember to do it purposefully in the future
6 жыл бұрын
This comment is pure gold ! So what made you realized you didn’t touched four was that when you came into contact with five it was way too far from three to be four ?
@buggsy55 жыл бұрын
@ Correct.
@nicksenske6626 жыл бұрын
If you would be able to get your hands on a matco toolbox, I would love to see you try to pick it. You have to push in against spring pressure to turn the key. If you couldn’t find one, I could try to get an extra and send it in
@brokencookieuwu6 жыл бұрын
I'm really bad at counting pins, your videos always make it seem like you can actually see everything inside the lock, great video!
@matthewmenich79155 жыл бұрын
Reach out, with your feelings Luke!
@MrGSSM5 жыл бұрын
I was working in Tokoz 11 years ago. They probably makes the best locks in the Czech Republic
@sitdox4 жыл бұрын
Been watching a lot off your videos My first comment The man that made art and spectacle of picking the locks My huge respect to that man He goes through the locks like squirrel through the nuts 😆 Thank you for your great videos
@tomhejda64506 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a Czech lock having been in the naughty bucket. I think I'll soon contact you, I've got some Tokoz to send your way. They are largish padlocks, and they are the things from them people know here. I believe the company entered the europrofile market only quite recently.
@Hrethgir4 жыл бұрын
Oh, THAT'S what wafers are in a lock! I just assumed it was a metal disc with notches the key goes thru. Good to see this one gutted.
@Malta-fn9wf6 жыл бұрын
So glad i found this channel. I’m new here but i watched like 30 videos of yours today. Your channel is truly addictive. Keep it up 💪
@dheller7776 жыл бұрын
Great pick. Have you ever thought about letting Bill try to open some of your tougher locks that might have given you trouble?
@wiredwater73316 жыл бұрын
I wanna see bill cry
@allothernamesbutthis6 жыл бұрын
He smashes them fire and might, never an unopened lock with lpl :D
@ButterBallTheOpossum6 жыл бұрын
I feel like LPL is on a whole different level of skill than Bill. He opened most of bills naughty bucket locks in under a minute. Anything LPL can't open Bill will never open.
@hannesmorgenroth71495 жыл бұрын
I doubt LPL has one single lock he can't open.
@Bialy_15 жыл бұрын
@@ButterBallTheOpossum "I feel like LPL is on a whole different level of skill than Bill." feelings are irrational thats why u "feel" that. Bill chanel have completly different format, LPL is doing only short movies after he allready found solution to the "problem".
@danielroglich33094 жыл бұрын
Awesome picking brother,thanks to Bosnian Bill for providing the locks for your naughty bucket chronicles videos!
@rabidr3aper2132 жыл бұрын
This dudes forplay is 100% a chastity belt. Love these videos.
@Pheorize6 жыл бұрын
Haha, I like how you're saying that this was a tricky lock to pick, especially with this lock being a naughty bucket one, but you pick it in 2 minutes flat. Great job and video!
@ivan_pozdeev_u29 күн бұрын
It's not his first time picking it. When he films a video, he already knows what to do.
@MorellioBenoir6 жыл бұрын
It lasted barely over 2 minutes. Wow LPL, very nice. Extra thanks for gutting that one!
@GeoMan12176 жыл бұрын
Loving the naughty bucket picks.
@DaniCalifornia443 жыл бұрын
“Okay and we’re going to start by inverting gravity.”
@kasuha6 жыл бұрын
European locks are mounted the other way, with pins being pushed down rather than up. I wonder if their anti-picking measures can't be designed for that and if you're not bypassing them by picking the lock upside down.
@Second_UNIT4 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. It might requiring a bit more finagling, but I’m sure that for lpl he’d have no problems since he’s shown capability with both top and bottom key way tension
@ivan_pozdeev_u29 күн бұрын
I guess it would be more awkward to have to push the picks up rather than down and not have the convenience of them resting on the bottom of the keyway (which would then be the top).
@Joe.Rogan.6 жыл бұрын
I've been really enjoying this series. Awesome content.
@AlbertLebel6 жыл бұрын
Very good picking there LPL. And what a great lock. Thanks for sharing this one
@brianhignett89546 жыл бұрын
Hi Harry, Interesting lock, certainly a variation on wafers. I guess they could be Master Keyed using smaller wafers between top and bottom wafers ...? No lip on the front of the core could leave it vulnerable. Regards, Brian.
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
Yup, shimming from the front is definitely a problem with this design.
@88673486 жыл бұрын
I think the key was using that deeper hook and not over setting #3 wafer. Good job. Lol, I'm talking like i know what I'm talking about. I just started this hobby a few months ago thanks to Mr Bills inspiration. I thought i was doing pretty good until i started using a vice to hold the locks and now it feels like i am starting all over again. Lol.
@DonzLockz6 жыл бұрын
Pretty mental seeing a wafer lock in a naughty bucket but good job as those wafers are definately alien technology.😎✌🇦🇺
@two_tier_gary_rumain6 жыл бұрын
They're definitely not normal wafers.
@DonzLockz6 жыл бұрын
Gary Rumain that's for sure Gary. I must say, I've never seen anything like them before.
@guyfromostrava6 жыл бұрын
Since this is a eurolock, I think you should pick those upside down, or for us europeans, the correct way a lock should be installed :-P
@chefgav16 жыл бұрын
Seminko thrse are installed both ways depending on door in southern hemisphere
@Golegoth6 жыл бұрын
I agreed, I think it's kind of cheating as the upside down should make the overset way more difficult to deal with.
@buggsy55 жыл бұрын
@@Golegoth I have picked locks in both orientations and have not noticed any difference in overset feel or clearing. The weights of the pins are so much less than the pressure applied by the springs that it doesn't matter. But that would certainly be an idea to try in a challenge lock. It would require some very fine tuning of spring pressures to make a difference.
@Pyrolock6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting Mr. LPL -- Never seen anything like it. Thanks for showing it to us, + thanks for showing us your understanding of the lock and how to pick it.
@s1lver0014 жыл бұрын
Let's get this out onto a tray. Nice!
@jooei28103 жыл бұрын
I know this meme! :D
@larrybe29006 жыл бұрын
Looks to be a challenge to assemble.
@khagaroth5 жыл бұрын
FYI you messed up while reading the TOKOZ catalog. The TECH cylinder is not the one they say is 100% pickproof (they have it listed as highly resistant). The lockpicking/bumping proof one is the PRO 300/400 cylinder which uses rotating discs locking mechanism.
@fastcharlie40546 жыл бұрын
Very cool wafer lock. I was not expecting that. The guts of an Illinois Duo are interesting but this is as well having wafer drivers.
@RAkers-tu1ey6 жыл бұрын
Wow. really interesting design I would likely never see otherwise. Thanks.
@halfdeadedlifereturningwit34206 жыл бұрын
New subscriber with quick question; Were you born with a set of picks in one hand & a tension bar in the other? You make picking locks seem like child's play. Lock manufacturers must really hate you...
@GusBDamme6 жыл бұрын
id say its probably give and take, on one hand he shows how to pick a lock, on the other hand some companies have sent him locks to test before they release him to get input
@japascho5 жыл бұрын
It's a bit depressing to go back to picking after watching his videos as a beginner 😅 feels like my cheep training locks are much more difficult than his security ones
@buggsy55 жыл бұрын
@@japascho One thing to keep in mind - he may spend several hours learning how to pick the lock before making a video of the process. All that time is not shown. Also, he has many years of practice. Picking locks sometimes requires a very fine touch/feel. It takes time to develop sensitivity to slight changes in position or pressure.
@leechowning27125 жыл бұрын
He has had a couple bets where he has to open the mailing pouch and open lock it 5 or less... The whole video was 3 minutes.
@ziiofswe5 жыл бұрын
@@leechowning2712 On the other hand I remember seeing a video with a rather tricky lock that he had to battle with for 4 hours... (The video itself was quite a bit shorter of course.)
@amberstails4 жыл бұрын
How long do locks have to resist Bill’s picking efforts to be put in the “naughty bucket”?
@Kalriostraz4 жыл бұрын
Just watched the video on Bill's channel. The locks were in the range of a few months to a few years being in there, but every one stumped him for a dozen hours or more of picking attempts as I recall.
@Deerslyr815 жыл бұрын
I believe that’s the longest pick I’ve ever seen you have to do. Good job though. Waiting on my pick set to come in so I can start my journey!
@Inactive123f4 жыл бұрын
Good luck
@HomestarCrawler4 жыл бұрын
I have a better version of this on a storage room in my building. I have the Tokoz 400 pro (a little more than 2x the price of this one) and it's a beast. People have tried to break in to it in the past, they tried to smash it, drill it, etc. No one's come close. About a year ago we installed cameras and a security system at the front door, and no more attempts have been made 😁 But I have to say that I'm pretty happy with this brand.
@stevechurch31316 жыл бұрын
So.... It's ALMOST 100% lockpicking proof. Lol. Well done and keep on picking
@gecko4ever4 жыл бұрын
Since the core slides out towards the back, doesn't this make the lock vulnerable to sliding a shim between the core and the cylinder from the front? @LockPickingLawyer Maybe something to try if you still have the lock.
@georgelangrick73843 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking the same thing, it looks ripe for a shim picking. The tolerances do look quite tight though. I've never shim picked a wafer lock or even considered it, maybe it would be a tricky process but at least in theory it should work like a pin tumbler lock... I would love to know if this lock is susceptible to that form of attack.
@buggsy55 жыл бұрын
Instead of using a magnet to get the wafers out of the core, use a pair of tweezers with fine points. That way you don't run the risk of magnetizing the wafers. Of course, the wafers could just as easily be brass, in which case magnetism is not a problem.
@michaelmendillo46145 жыл бұрын
We are going to need a bigger bucket Bill ! Lol,, 😁✌
@zbyszanna6 жыл бұрын
Number four is like "can't touch this".
@taboripeter Жыл бұрын
What about a tokoz 400 pro? I've seen a pick on yt but I would like you to take a shot at it as your presentation is superb. The 400 has a special locking mechanism plus coupling so they claim, that you can lock it from the inside and not even open it with a key.
@thumperlockpicking92696 жыл бұрын
Very cool lock,and you picked it like a champion
@DeetexSeraphine4 жыл бұрын
eeeeeh, that keyway doesn't look too bad... unless it is extremely paracentric and I missed it. It never ceases to amaze me just how much tension you put on those locks, dayum... (DISASSEMBLY) It's a waver lock?! okay did not see that coming...
@chunkymunkey9182 Жыл бұрын
You know its a challenge when there is an AD interrupting the lock picking process😁
@ronniefaisstfan6874 жыл бұрын
startin to feel real bad for bill xD
@kilroy19646 жыл бұрын
Absurd bidding? I actually thought that was a bump key at first!
@codyduff6553 жыл бұрын
Hey, can you shim this lock. Slide a shim inbetween the cylinder and bible?. I didn't see and counter sinking or overlap to prevent a thin shim from being slid down on the shear line keeping the key and driver waffers from interacting. It may be too tight of a tolerance, but that may work.
@DrSid426 жыл бұрын
Uh .. no indent on outside ? Can't it be simply shimmed ?
@tomhejda64506 жыл бұрын
I believe the core housing is "closed" from the front; that's why you can't gut it through the front and that's also preventing shimming.
@THR33STEP6 жыл бұрын
A wafer lock!! I didn’t expect that!!!
@TCGProductions036 жыл бұрын
Pin 4: Cant touch this doo doo doo doo do do do do
@wiredwater73316 жыл бұрын
MC HAMMER
@metamorphicorder6 жыл бұрын
But lpl is too legit to quit.
@crewmanderek36412 жыл бұрын
💯 pick resistant. 😂 LPL has the last laugh again!
@markleng676 жыл бұрын
I thought with that bitting that it was a challenge lock. Thanks for pointing out that MACS doesn't seem to apply to this style of lock.
@wreckelite4 жыл бұрын
Seems like the student has surpasses the master, nailing these locks Bill had problems with.
@MrBeeblebrox856 жыл бұрын
Great video! But when is LockPickingLawyer after dark coming out?
@frank92406 жыл бұрын
the new snail spiral core will exceed all picking expectations, including sets, feedback, false gates, shimming, etc....
@hssnov6 жыл бұрын
Very nice explanation i like this one much. Can you give us a brief about your picking history and how did you start this skill.. thank you
@TS_Mind_Swept Жыл бұрын
It would appear that flatter is not better, unfortunately; but hey, trying something new, I respect it
@Argosh5 жыл бұрын
Is there a video where you explain all the terms you use?
@rougnedodor2505 Жыл бұрын
This man is a badass
@TheGeezzer5 жыл бұрын
Where experts fail...LPL steps in! 😮💨💯
@LanceRyley4 жыл бұрын
0:50 - "I will certainly take this apart to show you what's inside toward the end of the video." 01:40 - actually starts picking the unpickable lock. That's not arrogance, that is supreme confidence.
@JasonZakrajsek4 жыл бұрын
Except he’s picked it before making the video, so it’s not just him saying “yeah I’ll take it apart” without knowing that he’ll actually get to that point. He already knows he can pick it.
@MultiVde6 жыл бұрын
I've never seen anything like it, very neat lock!
@3gsFreak5 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 1M Subs!
@boybilbo816 жыл бұрын
Interesting lock there. Thanks for showing it. 👍 🔐
@lukd4 жыл бұрын
Not sure why KZbin recommended me this 1-year-old video today... but I have to say TOKOZ 300-series are not being marketed as 100% resistant (at least not in Czech Republic where they are being made). However they have the PRO 400-series which ARE being marketed as 100% resistant to lockpicking...
@RAkers-tu1ey6 жыл бұрын
do you think a relatively minor change in tolerances would greatly increase security?
@bladactania4 жыл бұрын
Technically speaking, "100% protection against picking" doesn't mean 100% pick proof, it just means it's the maximum amount of protection against picking that is possible.
@coladict4 жыл бұрын
Does this wafer and ball-bearing alternative to regular pins make it more durable, like that large prison lock you showed us in 919?
@adamackels736 жыл бұрын
Is this what we get when a Kwikset Smart key cylinder (missing it's sidebar) mates with a wafer lock?
@martinnystrom79144 жыл бұрын
I wonder, sins you take it apart ”in revers”, is it open for shimming?
@reedleatherware2 жыл бұрын
You pick all these European locks upsidedown. If it was in a door you would have to pick the other way. How come you dont practice both directions?
@michalmarek20284 жыл бұрын
Hey @LockPickingLawyer have you also tried the flagship model of Tokoz? The Tokoz 400 PRO lock? Should be way better than this one and I could not find any mention about someone lockpicking it.
@SunnySidhu_TinyTauTsss4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile LPL and Bill making videos on yt about picking locks Me trying to pick a lock, Mother sees me doing something with a lock which is locking nothing. Flying shoe coming towards my face. 😂
@crackrazor1875 жыл бұрын
Nice pick job LPL. As always, I enjoy watching your videos. I was just wondering if these kinds of locks can be picked with an EPG?
@melomidi5 жыл бұрын
"okay we hit 4 and dropped into a false set" you mean you hit pin 4 and fell down the stairs smashing a vase and killing a cat along the way into a false set every other click to me was so quiet I didn't hear it and then this false set comes out of nowhere and it's loud enough to unlock all of the doors in a postal code radius of your home
@deerejohn72094 жыл бұрын
yay, longest LPL video not involving tape also not sure how I feel about a Lawyer that can pick locks
@Darth_Chicken3 жыл бұрын
The lock is being picked upside down to how it is used in the door. Surly that makes some difference in picking it?!?
4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Tokoz is from my country :-) Czech republic. Have You tested Padlocks Gamma 70 CS and Golem 70 ? There are disk cillinders and some special security profile in Gamma
@shamimhasnath4 жыл бұрын
This looked fairly easy for LPL. I’m curious why Bill couldn’t pick it!
@davidstowe56524 жыл бұрын
Great job and good luck
@bird7186 жыл бұрын
do you think that the wafer ball bearing design is better than security pins?
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
No
@buggsy55 жыл бұрын
@@lockpickinglawyer I agree. I feel that the design is less secure. The difficulty on this lock was due to the extreme bitting.
@donnierobertson30883 жыл бұрын
Great job and video like always
@JackdeDuCoeur6 жыл бұрын
As always, nice work. (Wish I were so dexterous.)
@ariesmars296 жыл бұрын
I have to ask you something, do you read from a script because when speak on a video it's perfect every time and it's the same depending on the video.
@Reapsin5 жыл бұрын
Do the bearings make it more difficult to manipulate the wafers? Are they free rolling whilst assembled?
@niagra8986 жыл бұрын
Does LPL have his own naughty bucket ?
@lockpickinglawyer6 жыл бұрын
Yes. It’s big and heavy!
@niagra8986 жыл бұрын
LockPickingLawyer Whoa the man himself! Thanks foe responding LPL,have a great weekend 😀
@StefanPettersson6 жыл бұрын
LockPickingLawyer, ok. But do you have locks in it?
@scottcaltagirone6 жыл бұрын
Really cool! A general question if you don't mind - how many times do you practice the pick & gut before recording these videos? (or how many takes?)
@DonzLockz6 жыл бұрын
Scott Caltagirone I asked him once before... he said he doesn't practice and I believe him.
@chefgav16 жыл бұрын
Don'z Lockz really? so he blinds picks?
@JamieClark16 жыл бұрын
This clearly wasn't a blind pick - the bitting was revealed at the start of the video
@Mmmyess6 жыл бұрын
In a recent video -- probably a Naughty Bucket lock -- LPL said it took him three hours to pick the lock the first time. So I think he has to practice on some of them. On the other extreme was the plastic and Chinesium piece of shit that he broke open with a screwdriver. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHqtdIyKbNOjn5I
@DonzLockz6 жыл бұрын
chefgav1 I'm just going by what he said at the time. Im sure I recall him saying if he has tried them a few times but if he hasn't, then I assume it's a virgin pick for him. Not seeing a key before picking could also mean a blind pick I guess, depends on how you want to think about it.🤔
@321981jdm5 жыл бұрын
Maybe a stupid question But since the cylinder exits the housing from front to back, instead of back through the front. Have you tried shimming the lock?
@trevort42866 жыл бұрын
How long have you been picking locks and wow I love that lock it's so different
@TREXdudi6 жыл бұрын
Masterclass pick, as always, thanks.
@dman14564 жыл бұрын
The only thing that will ever be pick proof is a keyway that has been welded shut.
@aettic Жыл бұрын
Wow, that bitting is extremely aggressive.
@DirtyRobot6 жыл бұрын
Bill has another one for you LPL.
@robertwest3093 Жыл бұрын
That kind of bitting will keep the amateurs out.
@toastycarpet98736 жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@puirYorick5 жыл бұрын
What style of lock was that? I'm guessing it goes into a cabinet door or something. I can tell you defeated it obviously but I can't picture what it's meant to protect.
@jestestuman4 жыл бұрын
Europrofile is standard type lock for doors in Europe - both out and inside.
@ashlyy13412 жыл бұрын
does the US really insert its keys w/ the bitting pointing upwards ?
@userhere30285 жыл бұрын
I love that this happens to me first it was bees then ants now its locks