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@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks Ай бұрын
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@jasonsiebold
@jasonsiebold 4 күн бұрын
I lost my Dewalt due to having to pawn it after my wife divorced me. After some health issues i wasn't able to make the payment and it was sold immediately. I was able to get my jointer but the planer was gone. I'm hoping to get my woodworking going again after the new year. This is definitely going to be my first major purchase. Thanks for the great review.
@Coopersmith7718
@Coopersmith7718 7 сағат бұрын
After seeing your first video on Channel Struts I went out an made my self a set. First project was combining two old farm house doors into one for a sliding barn door. It was easy and dead flat. I’m sticking with the carriage bolts, they are just so simple, and so cheap. I am going to use your idea with adding wedges, so I can skip the bar clamps. That is so simple and genius. Thank you so much for this life-changing idea.
@dschlicks
@dschlicks Ай бұрын
I work and teach at Woodcraft in Austin, Texas, and the new Oliver 13" lunchbox planer is a true badass. Thanks to the helical cutter head, cuts are every bit as shimmering smooth as the Powermatic planer in our shop. Combined with the precision digital height gauge and dual speeds, it's a great choice for pros with a limited budget and/or shop space. Highly recommended.
@marcoz2470
@marcoz2470 28 күн бұрын
Im just getting into the hobby. I bought the DeWalt with the mobile stand on Black Friday for around 630. They have the Oliver for 800. I had a hard time deciding. Should I return it for the Oliver?
@dschlicks
@dschlicks 24 күн бұрын
@@marcoz2470If it's within your budget, absolutely. We sell both, and the Oliver is a superior planer.
@richardbaynes3862
@richardbaynes3862 Ай бұрын
I bought the Dewalt used from a fellow who retired for $250 with the stand...purchased a Byrd helical head for right around $400...about 5 years ago...still going strong.
@grannydeen1586
@grannydeen1586 Ай бұрын
I paid 175 for my DW733 from a retired builder about 15 years ago. Mine is only 2 blade but it works just fine. And he gave me a new set of blades.
@DjLooN
@DjLooN Ай бұрын
Just got mine from woodcraft on sale for $899. Glad you reviewed it because this is my first planer and even though I love it I couldn't compare it to the others on the market
@VictorTellez-q4u
@VictorTellez-q4u Ай бұрын
I bought the old model about a year and a half ago because that’s when I saw your original post on the previous model. My Oliver replaced my old straight blade planer. The helix head reduced my hand sanding down to just doing a light pass at a higher grit. I can’t imagine this new model being that much better than my model. Thanks for the review!
@Damon_Barber
@Damon_Barber Ай бұрын
Great review and comparison! It’s so good to see when tool companies listen to customer feedback and modify their products for the customer. 🎉
@kevinshea4353
@kevinshea4353 Ай бұрын
I do like the side dispensing dust chute. The Dewalt comes out the center and when you connect a hose to it it always seems to get in the way of the out feed of the wood!
@GolemGolem-h4m
@GolemGolem-h4m Ай бұрын
It does get in the way but I solved the problem with a bungee cord attached to one of the posts and around my hose. I think Dewalt opted for the center chute so the dust comes out in a straight line instead of making a 90 degree turn; avoiding turns is supposed to be more efficient.
@FLPhotoCatcher
@FLPhotoCatcher Ай бұрын
@@GolemGolem-h4m I have the Dewalt planer in an outdoor, covered shop, and have the dust chute simply throwing the shavings out of the shop onto the ground. But just a 20 degree turn in the dust chute would keep me from getting covered in wood shavings.
@JoshCVeteran
@JoshCVeteran Ай бұрын
I would love this but can never afford. You said you’re not keeping it but if you give away, I hope that person loves it. Keep up the good work. OLIVER ALL THE WAY.
@JamesSmullins
@JamesSmullins Ай бұрын
I think I'd go with the Oliver. The digital Guage and having the helicoil already installed is a big plus over having to install it yourself and voiding warranty on the dewalt specially when you're in for the same amount of money doing it. When my old delta finally gives up I'll be looking at the Oliver for sure.
@kencrisp6333
@kencrisp6333 11 күн бұрын
Thanks so much for this excellent review! I am going to buy the new Oliver planer -- it's just what I've been waiting for for years, actually. I wouldn't be too quick to bash DeWalt. Years ago, I read an article regarding installing helical cutters in portable planers. The article talked about how those cutters require more power than traditional straight blades and cited that most portable planer motors would be taxed more than they were designed to handle, should you replace the straight blades with helical blades. DeWalt may be discouraging the use of helical cutters in their portable planers for that reason, erring on the side of practicality and safety. The Oliver planer in this review was obviously designed to use helical cutters, which is one of the main reasons I'm going to buy it. I believe DeWalt will be coming-out with their version of a portable planer with helical blades, especially since we've been seeing their prices drop on the DW735.
@joeleonetti8976
@joeleonetti8976 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the review on this updated version. Two years ago, I was ready to make a Black Friday planer purchase. The Oliver had just come out but I couldn’t find any reviews. Lack of reviews made me nervous so I went with the DeWalt. Happy with the DeWalt and no desire to change. Glad to see Oliver made improvements.
@ronaldberger2170
@ronaldberger2170 Ай бұрын
I've got the new Oliver- love that helical head! One thing you didn't mention is that the infeed and outfeed rollers on the Oliver are closer to the cutterhead compared to the Dewalt. This makes a different when planing really thin stock, or short pieces.
@incognitotorpedo42
@incognitotorpedo42 Ай бұрын
That's good to know. Closer rollers means less wood will be impacted by snipe, to the extent that it happens. (In my experience, you always get a little, unless you use sacrificial boards before and after the work.
@RYwoodview
@RYwoodview Ай бұрын
Dewalt with the Shelix head is #1, this new Oliver is without question very close and beats all else. I got a factory refurbished Wahuda 2-speed planer with spiral cutters on sale. Very similar to the Shelix, but fewer cutters though still excellent finish. It's cast base was broken, leaving one side lower than the other. Wahuda said it wasn't worth returning it & refunded my money. I fixed it with JB Weld and now have an excellent planer for free!
@rickbraden4272
@rickbraden4272 Ай бұрын
I'm kind of a newbie & got the DeWalt 735 & installed a FoxBc helical head. It works great. Wat hing this Oliver, I am very impressed.
@b3owu1f
@b3owu1f Ай бұрын
Man I probably would have bought this had it been available a year ago over buying the dewalt and then doing the blade replacement myself. Makes sense to go this route if you dont want to do the blade replacement on the dewalt.
@frrapp2366
@frrapp2366 Ай бұрын
just getting started in fine wood working and picked up an older Ryobi 10in at auction for 85$ would be great to win something like this glad someone is listening to their customers!!! have fun with it while you have it !!
@jdscally
@jdscally Ай бұрын
Oliver. I have a ton of DeWalt tools, but voiding the warranty by putting in the helical head vs. having the warranty (+the digital gauge) makes it an easy decision in my opinion.
@michaelkonieczny863
@michaelkonieczny863 Ай бұрын
i will definately look at the oliver. as long as it is as wide as the dewalt. my issue is the cost for width of board, for my next planer, but the cutter is a must.
@michaelkonieczny863
@michaelkonieczny863 Ай бұрын
I bought a cutech jointer. 800.00 for the 12". Fabulous. I don't remember if you reviewed it and that was were i saw it or not. I will have to compare the Oliver to the cutech planers. The jointer is great.
@anthonyharrison6068
@anthonyharrison6068 Ай бұрын
Its cool that the company actually listened to your ideas!! I would choose the oliver!!
@erickdanielsson6710
@erickdanielsson6710 Ай бұрын
Matt, A couple years ago I fitted my 15" Delta planer with a bird/helix head. I love how it works, BUT if I were to do this now, I would sell the Delta and Buy the Oliver. The Oliver comes fitted and Designed to use a Helix head. The helix head is constantly cutting vs the blade type head which has 1/3 turn of the cutter between cuts. Bottom line with the helix I has to remove less wood per pass than with the blade type cutter head. BUT the finish is Sooo much better A Winner for helix!
@stevenmoritz2914
@stevenmoritz2914 Ай бұрын
Matt, great review. It is on sale at Woodcraft for 899 until end of month. For the capabilities and price, it is a great deal. Love your channel.
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks Ай бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the review!
@rgrpncs
@rgrpncs Ай бұрын
Thanks for the needed update. I also liked the increase in capacity size from 12.5 to 13 inches. I know it's only a half an inch but it seems significant. Oliver missed a chance to "knock it out of the park" though because they could have gone to 14 or 15 inches while they were redesigning. Woodcrafts $100 off right now makes it $900 and I think it's a no brainer. I appreciate what you do, thanks.
@BerlinTrainStation1
@BerlinTrainStation1 Ай бұрын
I love that it has the helical cutterhead without the finnicky nonsense that getting the Shelix head on the Dewalt. I was really hoping it was more affordable because for $1200 you'd only be getting a smaller planer for the space saving at that price point. I'm glad it exists and ai'd love to get this on sale someday!
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks Ай бұрын
Woodcraft has it on sale now, link in description
@phillamoore157
@phillamoore157 Ай бұрын
Excellent! I really like the DeWalt, and I think the extra weight, stabilizes the unit, which I think helps with the snipe. But, DeWalt REALLY shot themselves in the foot with the warrant void. I’ve been a fairly loyal DeWalt user (although, that’s starting to change as of late). But, with quality issues being almost a gauranTEE in one form or fashion, warranty means a LOT more to me know than it used to, and I want a company to stand behind their product. *And why DeWalt hasn’t made a planer with a helical head is astonishing to me, with them knowing that’s what anyone who cares enough to buy a planer in the first place is goin got want. So, instead they penalize us for it…..makes NO sense.* Another outstanding video!!👍
@matthewblumenthal804
@matthewblumenthal804 Ай бұрын
I already have a planer. I'd buy the Oliver if I needed one. I will put a bird/shelix cutter on my old Delta eventually. As Delta is gone at this point, the warranty is a non-issue.
@GaryGiffin49
@GaryGiffin49 Ай бұрын
About six years ago I bought the General Helico planer its really wonderful, but can't find parts in Canada anymore. Wish they were still around.
@fierceflyer5
@fierceflyer5 Ай бұрын
IMO one of the most important thing is the dust collection. I’ve tried several planers and hands down the Dewalt is the best. Wish you showed the comparison between these 2.
@erichelton1888
@erichelton1888 Ай бұрын
In my area, a new Dewalt 735x with aftermarket Wixey digital gauge and shelix head comes in at 1138 while Oliver is 1135. With the added blower of the 735 for chip collection and increased bed area, it looks like the 735 is still the way to go.
@Sebastopolmark
@Sebastopolmark Ай бұрын
Yet another honest non-partial review. I do see, right now, Woodcraft has it for $899 + $41 shipping. It does look like a great value, thanks! !! !!!
@huntermark1160
@huntermark1160 29 күн бұрын
my woodcraft has it for 999.00 and I would pick it up as the store is really close.
@NormanT.MclauryJr
@NormanT.MclauryJr Ай бұрын
Great vid…thanks! It’s gradifying to hear of companies listening to their customers wishes! If more of them were to understand the benefits input from others…they could rule the business world!
@frankrossi5019
@frankrossi5019 Ай бұрын
I bought the Oilver about 3 years ago. I had a Delta for years and wanted to upgrade to a Helical head cutter. Looked at the Dewalt and thought about just changing the cutting head on the Dewalt when the Oilver came available. My first cut with the Oilver was a disaster. The Oilver made a deep grove in my test wood. I opened up the planner and found four broken/cracked cutting heads. Called Oilver and was told the screws holding the cutting heads were over torqued. Oilver sent me four new cutting heads plus four spares. I lessened all cutters and reset the torque. Since then it has been perfect. I have even planned end grain cutting boards and got a great finish if I glued on a sacrificial board to precent tear out.
@hubgold487
@hubgold487 5 күн бұрын
Still using 30 year old Ryobi 14 amp 12.25 inch planer. knives are cheap and easy to install. All steel weighs 63 pounds and made to carry with one hand. I don't make fine furniture so don't need the finish these machines probably deliver. A good planer can salvage a lot of wood that otherwise might become scrap.
@RogerDickenson
@RogerDickenson Ай бұрын
I’ve got the Makita with normal blades. Cost just over £500. Great machine now set up, beautiful finish zero snipe. Powerful, quality tool, Love it!
@rickcimino5483
@rickcimino5483 Ай бұрын
Oliver. Thanks for the video. Anyone could look up the price but it would be nice to know at the very end.
@MoyockScorpion
@MoyockScorpion Ай бұрын
Nice review and not biased. I have the DeWalt 735x with the shelical head for a few years. Works for me. However for a first time buyer you may want to check out this one as well. Both seem to do what you need it to do. Have a great night.
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience!
@RenegadesGarage
@RenegadesGarage Ай бұрын
731 Woodworks.. Matt I am just getting into woodworking a little more and learn a lot from your videos. So thank you for sharing them. I guess I still need a good planer and a jointer and well, maybe a few more woodworking tools. I have the SKIL table saw and miter saw that you showed and those are great tools so far.
@svedalawoodcrafts
@svedalawoodcrafts Ай бұрын
I especially love that digital scale, the height lock, the helical cutters and the ease to turn them for fresh blades, looks like a quick release dust exhaust and a depth gauge. I have the Craftsman, it's nice but this is the Rolls Royce of planers. One day I will be able to afford it :) PS, nice review!
@highlandsconstructionsoftw687
@highlandsconstructionsoftw687 Ай бұрын
I completely match. For a hobby planer user the Craftsman for the price works for me. Right now its Craftsman 400 (i think mine was 350 on sale), Dewalt 700, Oliver 900. (lowes and oliver pricing rounded up a dollar). As far as affording, if I wanted it all, why would I buy Dewalt and add to it, instead of just buying the Oliver? Upgrading isn't free and it puts the responsibility for mistakes on the owner. One day.... These reviews are really helpful.
@lightspeedguru
@lightspeedguru Ай бұрын
I own the DW735 but given the same choice today, I would buy the Oliver. Once you add all the mods, the Oliver product looks like a much better deal. What I still don't understand is why these tools (unlike all others) include blowers. My jointer is functionally identical but does not include a fan that blows shavings out the back of it. A big part of the noise produced by a planner is from the blower. If you're going to hook it up to a dust collector anyways (which you should), no blower is needed. Case in point, I bought a mod for my DW735 from Etsy that by-passes the rear dust port and allows me to position my 4" dust hose out the top of the unit (I had to cut a hole in the lid to do this). The blower still runs but it has been completely cut off from the cutters and I don't miss it. The dust collector still gets all the shavings without it. I say, Oliver should ditch the rear dust port and blower... instead, make the shroud point straight up... mount the dust port like a chimney that goes through a hole in the top of the unit. We'll call it 'The Dust Chimney'!! Remove the blower fan entirely and lower the noise. Make the in-feed and out-feed tables longer and let them both fold up nicely... even with the carriage all the way down!
@ar15gator
@ar15gator Ай бұрын
Agree!💯
@mojo6524
@mojo6524 Ай бұрын
One advantage of the Oliver is the direction of the dust hose outlet. With the Dewalt outlet, I have to take extra steps to keep the hose out of the way.
@BethesdaWoodworks
@BethesdaWoodworks Ай бұрын
I recently picked up a DW735 with a helical head second hand for $500, which to me was an absolutely steal for that machine. If I had to choose between the two (Dewalt at $1600 vs Oliver at $1100, I think the Oliver would win, mainly because of the preinstalled Wixey depth gauge. Thanks for the awesome, in-depth review!
@mikeh4924
@mikeh4924 Ай бұрын
I have a DW735 as well, straight blades, for now. Not sure how he got to $1600 with the helical head. DW735 new is $600, Helical head is $400-500. Maybe since they "Preinstall it"? Either way, you got a great deal! 🙂
@BethesdaWoodworks
@BethesdaWoodworks Ай бұрын
@@mikeh4924 Yes, of course they charge WAY more to preinstall it. I've watched videos on swapping the stock head to a helical head, and I'm glad the guy I bought it from did it! Saved me a huge headache and a lot of time. :)
@JacobNeff-oq5km
@JacobNeff-oq5km Ай бұрын
@@BethesdaWoodworks A lot of time? It takes less than a hour to swap heads.
@stevennachlas9596
@stevennachlas9596 Ай бұрын
Wixey also sells the digital readout by itself for $74.99 and I have it on my DeWALT DW735X. Works great so that is good that Oliver includes it.
@SuperSpiderman1979
@SuperSpiderman1979 Ай бұрын
I bought a Metabo planer recently. Looks Very similar to this model. Love my planer !! Nice video !
@petrash88
@petrash88 Ай бұрын
I just ordered a DW735X on your Black Friday recommendation! It comes in tomorrow! I can't wait to use it!
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks Ай бұрын
Congrats! I hope you enjoy it!
@souprmage
@souprmage Ай бұрын
I have the first version. While I haven't used it a ton, I love it. I'm sure it'll be fine for everything I need it for. If I ever need to upgrade, I'd jump up to a larger free standing unit. But until then, really glad I went with it.
@leif913
@leif913 Ай бұрын
Have you looked at the Cutech planer yet? A 13 inch with spiral blade is less than 700.00. I love mine. Have had it for 3 years and have not yet even turned a blade. Maybe check one out and review? Always enjoy your vids.
@tomblanar2592
@tomblanar2592 Ай бұрын
The Oliver is a very impressive planer and the helical head is a major plus. However, I would like to know more about the availability of spare parts. Availability of parts and factory support is a huge tie-breaker when all else is equal.
@nicholascirino1856
@nicholascirino1856 Ай бұрын
Just picked this up at woodcraft for $899. Can’t wait to use it
@christophervanmeier1648
@christophervanmeier1648 Ай бұрын
I like both...now there is a comment for you! I have a 'small shop" question for you. Is there, or would there be any problem with setup if I were to mount either one into a firm, true, and well braced rolling cabinet?
@RayandSandysWoodworking
@RayandSandysWoodworking Ай бұрын
Not in my budget so I'll stick with my Craftsman, which does a good job for what I need. Thanks for the review, it's nice to keep up with new tools on the market!
@phillamoore157
@phillamoore157 Ай бұрын
Amen. But, just out of curiosity, do you know if can you retro fit that Craftsman with a Helical blade?
@RayandSandysWoodworking
@RayandSandysWoodworking Ай бұрын
@phillamoore157 I'm not sure about that. Sorry!
@phillamoore157
@phillamoore157 Ай бұрын
@ No worries 👍
@RandomAngle9
@RandomAngle9 Ай бұрын
I’d buy the Oliver. Pre-installed helical and digital scale. Lighter weight too. Perfect. I own the Dewalt, so won’t buy the Oliver until the Dewalt fails again. I’ve had to repair it twice…and the in-feed gauge hasn’t worked in years.
@aquarellefoto
@aquarellefoto 17 күн бұрын
Seems like there’s a new flavor of the month in bench top planers. Three bladed planers with two feed speeds still provide the smoothest finish IMO. Helical cutter heads certainly have advantages, but every engineering decision involves compromise.
@billgatewood9578
@billgatewood9578 Ай бұрын
I have one, works great.
@richpeggyfranks490
@richpeggyfranks490 Ай бұрын
It looks like a great tool. But, I have had 2 planers with the 2 threaded adjuster posts and 4 smooth guide posts w/locks. Both planers ended up having issues after a while. The first was a Ridgid planer that I was able to return to the design engineer at Cutech tools. He verified that the small flex in the chassis had ultimately tweaked the entire power head unit. The second was a Dewalt made similarly (I know) and had the same issue after using it for a while. I operate a small cabinet shop and use these small planers for smoothing hardwood boards coming straight from the mill. Each planer lasted nearly 4 years, running About 2 - 3 hours daily. So, probably not an issue for most folks. I then got the Dewalt 4-poster. It is made similarly to our Grizzly 20" floor planer and has now operated for nearly 8 years and is as accurate as ever.
@fry216
@fry216 Ай бұрын
Got the Oliver with a Shelix last year. Love it! Thanks for bring all the good reviews
@squarelevelplumb
@squarelevelplumb Ай бұрын
I would love either one. My budget would force me to the DeWalt 3 blade model. Great review on your part. thanks
@raulangelfonseca9955
@raulangelfonseca9955 Ай бұрын
Great review. I would go with the Oliver
@awgk14
@awgk14 Ай бұрын
Well just got one from woodcraft on sale to replace a Ridgid planer, enjoyed your review. Hopefully next is a jointer upgrade
@tims6376
@tims6376 Ай бұрын
I still using my craftsman plainer and jointer benchtop models they work ok the plainer gets a bit choppy but as for the jointer I use it but I am learning how to use hand plains and I'm liking those. Sometimes I feel that with low quality tools it limits my true abilities in my shop.
@vegass04
@vegass04 Ай бұрын
I'm a newbie and I'm in a process of buying a planer but I'll buy a surface planer/jointer combo. This seems like the cheapest option to start with. By the way, I've made a few small tables with panel gluing 1" pieces of wood, and I can tell you that I've used more sanding paper on a cheap orbital sander than some people spend in a year. And that's why I'm getting this.. (Well not this Oliver machine but a cheap thickness planer/jointer combo). Wish me luck people..
@stevestormssr5492
@stevestormssr5492 Ай бұрын
FINALLY, someone paid attention!
@geebsmi8854
@geebsmi8854 Ай бұрын
Paid almost $1000 for my Oliver 3 yrs ago. I am able to use much cheaper rough sawn lumber and it has easily paid for itself at least twice. (I've made like 40 projects.) Really happy with this purchase.
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience and happy to hear you're pleased with your Oliver!
@scottbyrd2157
@scottbyrd2157 Ай бұрын
Kudos to you Matt!! Finally a company that took your feedback seriously! You deserve a doughnut!!😂. I know you been missing them!!😂😂 Great video and you should be labeled the “Tool whisperer “!
@smokeserpent9375
@smokeserpent9375 Ай бұрын
The Oliver was worth every penny and the wait. I was kind of surprised at the lack of advertising to the lead up to its launch. I found out about it through contacting Oliver about the 12.5 and they informed me it was being discontinued for this model. Hoped on the wait list and the second it got off the truck it was paid for and on the way to me. No way I will ever get rid of this machine.
@tomhostetter8516
@tomhostetter8516 Ай бұрын
I'm an Oliver Guy, Dewalt has known about Helical heads forever but still continue to sell straight blade units, knowing people will void their warranty to upgrade. I think it's a poor way to do business. It's not like the R&D department can't add helical to the Dewalt. They choose not to.
@Regolith86
@Regolith86 Ай бұрын
Legally, they can't void your warranty for that unless they can prove your modification caused whatever you asking for warranty service on.
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan Ай бұрын
They come with straight blades because most people don't wanna pay for helical blades. It's the same reason new cars don't come with the very best tires available unless you're buying a supercar. Dewalt is not a company geared to high end craftsman. If they were, they'd make a 240v cabinet saw.
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan Ай бұрын
​@@Regolith86 they absolutely can and have voided warranties for using helical heads.
@actionjksn
@actionjksn Ай бұрын
How would DeWalt know that you had a helical head on there? If I had to return it I would just put the original cutters back on. I wouldn't want to send it back with the helical cutters that I paid for.
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan Ай бұрын
@@actionjksn it's not terribly difficult to tell that the head has been removed. Of course, you could remove the original and replace it with the same thing but they know that's not happening for most users within the warranty period.
@caodesignworks2407
@caodesignworks2407 29 күн бұрын
If I could afford either, I'd probably go with the Oliver. It's slightly lighter weight and slimmer design feel better to me, but more importantly, I like the built in gauge
@Milministry
@Milministry Ай бұрын
Thanks Brother for this video! Now I’m in a conundrum as I have been considering that Dewalt planer.
@ErniePantuso
@ErniePantuso Ай бұрын
How would you set the helical head cutters? I mean how would you make it in to a straight plane?
@Danman1972
@Danman1972 Ай бұрын
I have a 735. Wish it had options for the helix head and the digital scale. Since I own the 735. I can install both of those options, but if I were buying new it's nice to not have to install it and it come that way.
@timlawrence3906
@timlawrence3906 Ай бұрын
It figures theyd upgrade it! 😅 I bought my Oliver a year ago. I'm very happy with it, but the sturdier top and 2 speed would be nice to have.
@jamestaylor9106
@jamestaylor9106 Ай бұрын
Great info. For the money i would prefer the Oliver. 899. vs 1,500.
@jimrosson6702
@jimrosson6702 Ай бұрын
Great video Matt. I have the DeWalt planner just hoping to be able to up date it with the Byrd helical head soon. If I can get a good deal on it. Thanks for sharing
@hansdegroot8549
@hansdegroot8549 5 күн бұрын
Great review and video. Thanks for sharing. A"bit" pricey for me though. First I followed the Woodcraft link. And to compare prices I also followed the Amazon link. But there it show a totally different machine (jointer, other brand)
@J20Jeepster
@J20Jeepster Ай бұрын
Totally agree with the helical head.... Unless you are planing Epoxy.
@martinmand45
@martinmand45 Ай бұрын
Love my Oliver Shelix, big improvement on my old Craftsman. Thanks for the video!
@marknichols5827
@marknichols5827 Ай бұрын
My 28 year old Delta is still going strong. Hopefully these newer models are built to last also
@mrgunn2726
@mrgunn2726 Ай бұрын
Great review Matt! I would love to see some reviews of benchtop combination planar jointers.
@tgrubb28
@tgrubb28 13 күн бұрын
I bought an Oliver because of your video
@kylek29
@kylek29 Ай бұрын
Those wanting the digital-readout, you could probably rig a digital caliper (the cheap ones should have sufficient accuracy for wood) to most planers, that's basically what this unit seems to be, just a rehoused version (a 3d-printed mod could even do that).
@PolskieForum
@PolskieForum Ай бұрын
You forgot to mention what is the highest thickness you can put inside the planer, I try to put through the DeWalt 6" rough cut post and I was not able to pass it through.
@akita96th
@akita96th Ай бұрын
The dewalt didn't come with those fold up tables when I bought mine. I had to pay $70 to order them. So I had over $700 in mine and it is 8 years old and still kicking butt.
@DavidATakes
@DavidATakes Ай бұрын
I would hold off and get the Oliver 10055 that is coming out in early 2025. It is also a benchtop and more closely competes with the performance of the DeWalt 735, but it is a 15" and has some other nice features. It seems like the model in this video is more of a design match with the DeWalt 734 with some nice additional features. In either case I think Oliver will eventually become the benchtop planer king if DeWalt maintains the status quo.
@grantvanhalen
@grantvanhalen Ай бұрын
It’s gonna be 220 though. So gotta have that in the shop
@lakesteader
@lakesteader Ай бұрын
Was about to pull the trigger at the 899 price and saw your comment. Now holding off for the 15" coz that would mean I never need to upgrade again. Worth the extra 300-600.
@joshuacrowe2752
@joshuacrowe2752 Ай бұрын
The last Oliver I used was 50-60 +years old and it was a beast
@billfischer9
@billfischer9 Ай бұрын
Great review. I am going to start saving up for the new and improved Oliver planer.
@michaeliannantuoni5664
@michaeliannantuoni5664 Ай бұрын
Interesting product. When I finally have a chance to buy a planner this is definitely a option.
@staudtj1
@staudtj1 Ай бұрын
Nice Presentation! I would caution against planning Walnut without dust collection. Walnut dust is dangerous to breathe.
@baguleyonbaking-zt2kk
@baguleyonbaking-zt2kk Ай бұрын
would like for you to review Cutech planners and Jointers
@renitatrujillo521
@renitatrujillo521 Ай бұрын
I love watching your videos. I'm new to working with wood. A planer is on my wish list.
@ProfessorVector
@ProfessorVector Ай бұрын
Your planer videos tipped it over the edge for me i bought the Craftsman niw building a cart for it. $285 was a good deal
@jeffmclaird6597
@jeffmclaird6597 Ай бұрын
It looks exactly like the wen that has a helical head - wonder if the heads are interchangeable
@leehaelters6182
@leehaelters6182 Ай бұрын
9:10 does two speeds mean gearing, or a separate feed motor with electronic control? I have come to really appreciate your enthusiastic but rigorous examinations and reviews! Thanks so much, and keep it up!
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks Ай бұрын
Gearing is what I would suspect
@davidmaclean5065
@davidmaclean5065 Ай бұрын
@@731Woodworks Two speed AC motors have two different internal windings, one for each speed. That's why a simple toggle switch can change the speed.
@gfarious5389
@gfarious5389 Ай бұрын
I've been wanting a tabletop planer. Maybe in the future I'll be able to afford this one
@jtbess69
@jtbess69 Ай бұрын
I would choose the oliver! thank you
@robertalcock7801
@robertalcock7801 Ай бұрын
Another awesome video - I would probably buy the Oliver between the 2.
@corym2513
@corym2513 8 күн бұрын
Gv. Should I or shouldn't, don't know, they both do good.
@scottallen2804
@scottallen2804 Ай бұрын
Appreciate your videos. Love your shirts and that your demeanor supports them.
@VitalPolymath
@VitalPolymath Ай бұрын
I'd buy the Oliver. If I can get make enough stuff this winter, maybe I can
@angazi1341
@angazi1341 Ай бұрын
Oliver definitely seems the way to go for me
@bobhoyer
@bobhoyer Ай бұрын
Thanks for the review, I am upgrading shop to immediate, good bye to H.F. planner and welcome to ... I am stuck between these two funny enough. Do I want to install helo into DeWalt or buy it done ... hmm, TBD. Thanks
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