Passenger Stops Pilots from Landing | ATC vs Pilots

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@omniryx1
@omniryx1 3 жыл бұрын
On my very first solo cross country, I was to land at a small suburban airport outside of Atlanta. Something happened to close that field and I was told to divert to Hartsfield. To say that stark terror ensued would understate my feelings at that moment. As I listened to the complex, rapid fire radio chatter, I thought, "I can't do this. I should just fly into the side of Stone Mountain and save everybody a lot of trouble." In panic, I blurted, "I'm a student. They diverted me here and I have no idea what to do." a few seconds later, a grandfatherly voice said, "it's OK, son. We're gonna get you on the ground just fine." He talked me through the approach and I landed without incident. Now, many years and thousands of hours of airline flying later, I've never forgotten the patience and kindness of that unknown controller.
@chuckinhouston9952
@chuckinhouston9952 3 жыл бұрын
Son! It must have been Jerry Reed.
@EA-vd4gd
@EA-vd4gd 3 жыл бұрын
Great story. Thanks for sharing.
@jcburleigh
@jcburleigh 3 жыл бұрын
Epic!! I'm a new PPL with just over 140 hours (working on my instrument rating) in the ATL area, and cannot IMAGINE dealing with landing at KATL, emergency or not! Of course, I'd love to get good (not just bold) enough for that to be feasible...lol!
@iainmillar1532
@iainmillar1532 3 жыл бұрын
Great story. I remember my first solo cross country being asked by tower to extend downwind so far that I lost sight of the airfield 😧. Many years later I flew to Texas for the first time and couldn’t even understand Houston centre’s accent on the radio 😆 ATC are there to help keep everything moving smoothly and can do a lot to help if a pilot asks for help.
@wfemp_4730
@wfemp_4730 3 жыл бұрын
I don't work in the industry, nor am I a pilot, but it sounds like your "blurting" was succinct and appropriate.
@monagranat1280
@monagranat1280 3 жыл бұрын
I was taught, when I contacted ATC on a solo, to say “student pilot on a solo”. It was very helpful as ATC started talking slower and was very helpful right of the bat. They immediately understood what/who they were dealing with and communicated accordingly.
@CognitiveDissident.
@CognitiveDissident. 3 жыл бұрын
Very useful info, thanks for sharing that tip.
@charlotteinnocent8752
@charlotteinnocent8752 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't have to say that and it wasn't asked of me. But the airport I solo'd in was easy enough and I was okay with radio. Also, pretty sure they KNEW I was on my solo!
@garyb8528
@garyb8528 3 жыл бұрын
I typically, when early in my solo days, used the “student pilot solo” only once that I can remember. While on short final to runway 11 at KHPN (home base) the controllers asked me to land and hold short of 16 for landing aircraft. I wasn’t confident enough back then so I expressed this to tower who simply had me go around. I was proud of myself for not pushing my personal comfort level and actually expressing it.
@korbell1089
@korbell1089 3 жыл бұрын
@Karen S Thanks for the help, I have trouble with BKingese but I am fluent in Maccideez, for example, "ghiiogb jjesda ffgghhhh" means the McFlurry machine is broke.
@lindqvistsandra
@lindqvistsandra 3 жыл бұрын
Same for me! ATC was amazing on my first solo and cheered me on :)
@ChronosWS
@ChronosWS 3 жыл бұрын
I love how humble Kelsey is and how he reinforces practice and that making mistakes is part of the process. This will make you better in literally anything you do.
@mikeposer2149
@mikeposer2149 3 жыл бұрын
Well said
@center4nerds
@center4nerds 3 жыл бұрын
Learn from your mistakes and the mistakes of others. Doing this will help you and others make less mistakes. I know a lot of these are done in a fun and joking manner but there is also a lot of valuable information to be learned while keeping it in a light and joking manner as well.
@geekgee
@geekgee 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I feel that part of Kelsey's charm is his humility.
@Tmanaz480
@Tmanaz480 3 жыл бұрын
It helps that commercial aviation has a culture that supports this approach, rather than simply firing everyone who makes a mistake.
@cremebrulee4759
@cremebrulee4759 3 жыл бұрын
Humble and down-to-earth. He is not being dramatic or silly in an effort to get more viewers. That is very much appreciated.
@mish130
@mish130 3 жыл бұрын
So much good advice. I'm a former Air Force pilot, and I can't recommend this advice enough. I wish I had this advice as a kid when I first started flying. Great job, Kelsy
@74gear
@74gear 2 жыл бұрын
glad you enjoyed it and thank you for your service Mish!
@cbufffly
@cbufffly Жыл бұрын
mish130. Did my flight training at the NAS Barbers Pt Navy Flying Club, on Oahu where most of my CFIs were military aviators. Just wanted to say thank you for your service...and that I feel incredibly lucky to have trained with them! That also goes for some of the controllers as well. And extends to the inter-island and ATPs who would let all us rookies know approach speeds and stuff for our aircraft. There is nothing like the spirit of ohana among the Island pilots. The willingness to share their knowledge and experience always made for wonderful training flights! Like how many newly licensed pp's get to fly a GCA? It was a rarity even then and something I'll cherish forever! Note to student pilots: Never pass up the odd opportunity to catch a flight you hadn't anticipated. I had such an opportunity along with a CFI and a staff photographer from the University of Hawaii's anthropology department to get some infrared shots of a potential archeological site. It was a chance to get in some practice with turns around a point while keeping a steady altitude, not to mention exploring a personal passion. We'd only made two fairly wide turns when the photographer said he felt sick. Anyway, that's how I ended up with a very expensive camera and no idea how to use it. He gave me a quick brief, and sat back looking really grayish. I popped the Cessna's window and positioned the camera and shot a bunch of frames. We headed back to the club house, fixed the photographer up with some 7Up and a few cookies...and the very expensive camera I was terrified of dropping while we were circling and called it a day. About a week later I learned that some of the shots I took were now on display in the campus museum and that yes, it was an ancient village, so my name was on the floor to ceiling shot and a few others. I nearly fainted, but it turned out to be an honor to be included as a team member. Life is definitely a highway with lots of turns and has a way of calling your name. Answer it.
@kamakaziozzie3038
@kamakaziozzie3038 Жыл бұрын
yup. Lots of advice👍
@andreaholcock8992
@andreaholcock8992 Жыл бұрын
What did you fly? My dad was an aircraft machinist for the majority of his enlistment.
@CoffeeCupVT
@CoffeeCupVT Жыл бұрын
@@cbufffly That's a marvelous story! You stepped up when you were needed, to do something you'd never dreamed of doing, gave it your best, and just kept going - and somehow, when we handle things this way, they almost always turn out so much better than we anticipated. It's great that they credited you as one of the photographers, which you surely deserved. Really enjoyed your story.
@opiumextract2934
@opiumextract2934 2 жыл бұрын
I work for a railroad, my 16 year old son wants to be a pilot(which is why I'm here) One of the hardest things for any new employee is the radio and the lingo. Hell, I had a hard time when I first started. It just takes time and repetition and you eventually get it. But anytime I hear a new employee get on the radio and repeat something very basic you can tell how nervous they are. And when they do get it right (because they will eventually) they have a sense of accomplishment in their voice. Just wanted to share
@Shasha_Mynx
@Shasha_Mynx Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the parallel
@thepenguin9
@thepenguin9 Жыл бұрын
I can expect the curmudgeons of the workforce will be quick to judge them too Luckily they tend to not be liked anyway
@desertdaisymarie6951
@desertdaisymarie6951 9 ай бұрын
There's a trick to learning it, learn how to spell using the NATO alphabet and start with your name.. I know the whole thing well enough to tell bad jokes using the NATO alphabet 😂 For me, it's useless information.. I'm going to teach my son so he knows it when he joins the Navy..
@CLMbesties4life
@CLMbesties4life 3 жыл бұрын
I love how humble Kelsey is, and even when he’s critiquing someone, he says “it’s okay-I’ve done it too!” Such a kind soul. Also, LOVE that he’s a Texan!!
@arlberg2006
@arlberg2006 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr! Being just a glider pilot, I enjoy hearing things Kelsey says about flying, as much of what he brings up - it's always a been there/done that. The humbleness, the proper explanation, the going into their shoes, love it 😍
@coltonnewkirk326
@coltonnewkirk326 3 жыл бұрын
Wait??!?!? He is a Texas too??!??!? shit I knew I loved that guy!
@txcrix9236
@txcrix9236 3 жыл бұрын
He is Texan! I just knew it! Luv ya Kelsey! :D
@ThanosPapas
@ThanosPapas 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't he from southern California?
@worstgamer1162
@worstgamer1162 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh since when he said he's from Texas? Just asking not hating or anything
@7atthew
@7atthew 3 жыл бұрын
" *We don't become super snipers once the turbulence hits* " Best part of the entire video
@Mon.M0TIVATION
@Mon.M0TIVATION 2 жыл бұрын
Lol super snipers
@RainbowSushiii
@RainbowSushiii 2 жыл бұрын
most disgusting tbh. just sit down ffs
@manbunmyname5866
@manbunmyname5866 2 жыл бұрын
@@RainbowSushiii Like your drunk hover is any better...🤣🤣🤣
@edwarwick8790
@edwarwick8790 3 жыл бұрын
We don’t become super snipers when turbulence hits…you really make me smile sometimes funny as.
@MultiMatFuzz
@MultiMatFuzz 3 жыл бұрын
Reading this comment out of context before watching and thinking "what the f*** could you be talking about", makes it even more funny when you get there 😂
@HerbProductions
@HerbProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Hey he can’t speak for all men tho. I grew up in a house of women, I was forced to be a sharpshooter
@Nathan_Jay
@Nathan_Jay 3 жыл бұрын
I hard disagree with this one 😂 we HAVE to become super snipers
@RocketAnthem
@RocketAnthem 3 жыл бұрын
SUPER SNIPER
@_Caedwyn
@_Caedwyn 3 жыл бұрын
i AM super sniper *puts sunglasses in a cool fashion* lol
@TheBicycleGuy
@TheBicycleGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I really feel bad for student in 8236B as her instructor had not set her up for success. Those exchanges really show that she may not have been totally prepared. Although I learned on a small field, we flew to towered airports enough before my first solo cross country flight to know what to expect. I was also given the homework of taking my little aircraft band radio to a towered airport and just listen to what was happening there and to hear the rhythm of the communications. Despite all of this, I still wound up getting behind the plane when the approach controller gave me instructions that I wasn't expecting. I totally went into brain lock and wound up too close to the class D airport when I checked in. I got scolded. But I learned. This poor girl just learned a bunch all at once and the hard way.
@drsudz
@drsudz Жыл бұрын
Agree that her instructor did not prepare her. But...… every single kid I see in flight school today thinks they're ready to solo long before they're ready to solo. One young man confided in me that his instructor was "slow-walking" him bc he wouldn't let him solo. He has 9 hours.
@IGrocker
@IGrocker Жыл бұрын
I have about 11 hours right now, working on my PPL. Once you hit that radio button, all of the thoughts in your head go out the window lol. That said, unless it’s something new, I’m confident in most of my radio calls, and I’ve been making most of them the past few lessons.
@bricehawley6693
@bricehawley6693 Ай бұрын
Agreed. Instructor did not set her up for success! What a shame.....
@dwtees
@dwtees 3 жыл бұрын
I was so Lucky my instructor was also an air traffic controller. He had me extremely sharp on the radio's. I live in Houston and I was able to fly into the complex Houston George Bush airport with low flight time for practice on the weekends when I flew solo. The controllers let me in sometimes if they weren't too busy when they would turn others away because I was good on the radio. 74 gear this is so good advice and such a good video. Always if you get nervous you can tell ATC you are a student pilot and they will give you more help. That is one of the tricks my air traffic controller taught me. When I soloed a jerk in a twin cut across the uncontrolled airport mid field unannounced heading straight for me when I was on my first downwind leg in the pattern. This scared me badly and shook me up. Can we say adrenalin rush. My hands started shaking. I turned away from him and did S turns to give me us safe distancing from each other. My instructor is to be commended because he hammered radios and safe distancing and other stuff in my head. He complemented me for distancing myself from the jerk and was hopping mad and chewed the twin driver out when he landed.
@timtam6442
@timtam6442 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a student, my instructor taught me the six Ps. Prior preparation prevents piss-poor performance
@skyhawk_4526
@skyhawk_4526 3 жыл бұрын
I was taught the 7 Ps. Same meaning, just more wordy, I guess: Proper prior planning prevents piss poor performance. And then there's also the inverse: Poor prior planning produces piss poor performance.
@bikeny
@bikeny 3 жыл бұрын
@@skyhawk_4526 I learned it (the 6 P's) at a bank I worked. It was explained as yours, but without the 'proper.' No matter which version, one needs to plan. We were also told, "failure to plan on your part, does not constitute an emergency on my part." Of course, working in a bank is not the same as being in a flight crew, so plan or no plan, you'll get the help.
@roadmonkeytj
@roadmonkeytj 3 жыл бұрын
I learned the 7th P version as well lol
@daveroche6522
@daveroche6522 3 жыл бұрын
And presentation skills (+ talking to ATC) - K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple, Stupid).
@webcucciolo
@webcucciolo 3 жыл бұрын
On my first solo in pattern, after 11 hours, I said "student on first solo" on every call, and the controller spoke at the same fast speed (I am not even a native speaker) and at the end of the day a technical issue with the aircraft resulted in the tower filing a possible pilot deviation, tower number to call and a nice chat with an FAA guy who basically told me that he had no idea whatsoever why ATC did that to me, considering that I followed perfect aeronautical decision making. At 300+ hours, IFR, CPL, working on my CFI and CFII, I am still based at that same airport, KLAF, I love ATC, and I visited KLAF and KIND tower a couple of times :) Bad days happen to everybody.
@andy5392
@andy5392 3 жыл бұрын
Im someone who can barely hold a conversation while driving a car nevermind flying a plane and talking to someone on a radio. Mad respect to pilots
@millomweb
@millomweb 3 жыл бұрын
You sound like a better person than most.
@margotrosendorn6371
@margotrosendorn6371 3 жыл бұрын
I could see myself learning to operate the controls on an aircraft, but I'm super spacey and could never handle all the radio chatter...
@rdizzy1
@rdizzy1 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, no way in hell could I do that. No matter how much practice, wouldn't even be able to practice to begin with, would crash the plane with the instructor in it, 100%. I get distracted far too easily, and even have issues driving alone if I don't take my meds, let alone flying.
@lukeorlando4814
@lukeorlando4814 3 жыл бұрын
@@margotrosendorn6371 like Kelsey said, the key is preparation. If you studied the charts and you know how to get where your going. Then the read backs are just repeating what you already know. Like driving a car. It can be quite stressful when your lost. But if your doing a journey you do all the time it’s quite easy to get there and realise you were day dreaming the whole way and have no recollection of the journey.
@Kristian-vt7fp
@Kristian-vt7fp 8 ай бұрын
The "we don't have perfect aim" joke got me, good job Kelsy.
@calebhollen5316
@calebhollen5316 Ай бұрын
It's not manly but I sit at home so there is less clean up on isle 4
@ray3maxwell
@ray3maxwell 2 жыл бұрын
WOW did this bring back memories... I was on my first solo cross country. I flew over my destination and looked down to check the wind. The airport had a wind tetrahedron. I had read about them but never seen one. I went through some mental gymnastics and decided which way to enter the pattern and land. I then taxied into the FBO and got my log book signed. When I was ready to leave, I asked how to taxi back to the departure end of the runway. The person who signed my log book smiled and said, "Oh you are the one that landed downwind." Now then guess what airport I was landing at...Joplin MO...the same airport in your story. This was more than 50 year ago before they had a tower. Yes, I had about 20 hours when this happened!
@drewsmith3973
@drewsmith3973 3 жыл бұрын
Well, everyone starts like that. For non-flyers it may seem like these pilots are idiots but when you’re flying, your brain shrinks to the size of a pea. I had the pleasure of working with understanding and dedicated ATCs. I wasn’t the sharpest flyer when I was a student. I now fly a big jet. Goes to show you can definitely improve.
@lucasbrien5008
@lucasbrien5008 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree, however I think there is no way this student was prepared to solo. Students I know were amazing on their solo, and I wasn’t that bad (I certainly wasn‘t a hotshot though). Maybe that’s anecdotal.
@funny_man8779
@funny_man8779 3 жыл бұрын
Nice . How long did it take to be able to fly that jet?
@drewsmith3973
@drewsmith3973 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucasbrien5008 Maybe. First time I flew in a busy class C airspace, I read back all the headings and altitudes wrong. I was prepared(on paper) but hearing that an A320 was waiting for me to do the approach just threw me off my game. So…. I don’t know man.
@drewsmith3973
@drewsmith3973 3 жыл бұрын
@@funny_man8779 2 years. :) I was lucky to be a part of an airline program.
@funny_man8779
@funny_man8779 3 жыл бұрын
@@drewsmith3973 nice . I am Considering joining flight school at some point .
@denisew.123
@denisew.123 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not a pilot nor am I gonna be one - yet I love watching your videos as you are such a humble human being! Real quality content! 👍🏼
@oliverwest3010
@oliverwest3010 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in the same boat as you Denise W!
@rjhornsby
@rjhornsby 3 жыл бұрын
I’m trying to understand how an instructor signs her off to solo, unless now in the airplane alone for the first time she’s forgotten damn near everything. You made a great point: she was not prepared for this flight, and that’s an instructor’s job to ensure. I believe that after ground, on initial contact with tower, we would tell them “departing to the north” or “would like to remain in the pattern”. Either her instructor never demonstrated or made her do this, she’s simply way under-prepared for towered operations (her initial call up sounded like a class G airport), or it all melted out of her brain. This is not her fault. If she’s not ready, she’s not ready. Spend more time in the right seat making her do everything and correcting where needed. That’s better than sending her into the air - she doesn’t know what she doesn’t know - and then finding out the worst way possible she’s so worked up she can’t remember how to land.
@jmitterii2
@jmitterii2 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that doesn't make sense to me that the controller thought she was departing to somewhere else. We never heard her clearance. He did say to contact departure. Which should have been a big clue that he was trying to hand her off and she was leaving the airport... I don't get what was going on. My first solo was strictly a supervised solo in the traffic pattern. Supervised meaning the instructor was there at the airport listening on a radio and even watching from the ground. And in the traffic pattern literally meant I wasn't to go anywhere outside the airport pattern and control. This first solo was strictly for touch and goes. I was originally following part 141 rigid curriculum which helps... and converted to the more loose curriculum style part 61 as I had more than enough hours to do part 61 to finish the necessary instruction and take the exam for my PPL. So maybe she was part 61 and they had her do multiple things on her first solo... which I think is crazy. I was in class C so you call up clearance in which you state your intentions for the flight, but even in D you would advise ground of all your intentions. And this would get passed on to the tower. And if it wasn't, my experience weird things can and do happen, we're all human, you would correct ATC when things aren't happening as planned... hearing the controller passing me on to departure when I mean to stay in the pattern is sort of those red flags that things are confused... time to speak up and say something asap. Everything about this seems odd.
@Vousie
@Vousie 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, surely the instructor should've done at least a flight or two where he's there but not actually saying/doing anything unless he needs to - as a "practice solo" flight... If he'd done that, then he would've seen her poor radio communication...
@SF-eo6xf
@SF-eo6xf 3 жыл бұрын
It's pretty standard that people fly solo after 20 hours. She made sure by not studying that she is not ready
@Vousie
@Vousie 3 жыл бұрын
@@SF-eo6xf I think in this case I'm gonna go with the actual pilot, Kelsey, rather than a random person on the internet. In any case, it's still the instructor's responsibility to check that the student knows enough before letting them on the solo flight. If she hadn't studied enough to get there, then the instructor shouldn't have let her go fly solo.
@SF-eo6xf
@SF-eo6xf 3 жыл бұрын
@@Vousie and where did I disagree with Kelsey?
@bobsemp
@bobsemp 2 жыл бұрын
49 years ago when I did my first solo 3 takeoffs and landings, I was well prepared for the radio work because my instructor made sure that, in addition to learning the mechanics of flight, I was competent on the radio. I've seen way too many instructors "handle" the radio for the students, and then when the students are first confronted with fast-talking (normal speed to everyone else lol) controllers, they are totally lost. Not suggesting her instructor did this per se, but the student obviously wasn't properly prepared for the clearance / readback procedures, or proper vernacular for that matter. That's not on her, but on her instructor. I really chuckled at her response re: her finally saying she was a student - "well you didn't ask"... I made sure, as a student pilot, that the guy on the other side of that $5 radio shack speaker (back when that was state of the art in a Piper Cherokee 140) knew I ws just learning. Likewise, when building my Instrument rating, giving the controllers a tip that I was a newbie in their realm went a long way to slowing them down and getting my clearances right the first time around (most of the time). Clear skys and full tanks to y'all!
@animehuntress9018
@animehuntress9018 Жыл бұрын
Not aeronautics, but my riding instructor was similar, lol. It Saved my bacon when a rattler spooked my horse and again when I was jumping and lost my stirrup. There were tons more times that her making sure I had everything down to the nines saved me but those were the most dangerous mishaps that could have happened but didn't. If you set your student for success then when they do get into the thick of it, they have a ton more under their belt to handle it.
@tmcfarland5630
@tmcfarland5630 Жыл бұрын
"...the winds were probably calm" Sir, your modesty is admirable and occasionally cracks me up!
@scottmeischen3287
@scottmeischen3287 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, as Kelsey mentioned, her radio skills need a lot of work. And he is right that the instructor has a little to do with how unprepared she is for this solo flight. I also love how Kelsey is very humble in how he said he was horrible at ATC conversation at one point as well.
@MKucheran
@MKucheran 3 жыл бұрын
Just gonna be “that guy” and go ahead and point out that wasn’t Katherine Hepburn. That was Cate Blanchett playing Katherine Hepburn in The Aviator. The accent may vary from the real one that Katherine had.
@hasyourgulaggotplanningper2459
@hasyourgulaggotplanningper2459 3 жыл бұрын
Ha ha - I was going to say the same. Cate Blanchett did a pretty good job with the accent, I think.
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it took me half a second. I thought perhaps he was going to give two examples & show them both. But, having watched my share of Hepburn movies & some of her interviews as well, I’d say Cate is surprisingly accurate here. Maybe just a little exaggerated, which is often what you’ll see when someone does an impersonation.
@ginog4480
@ginog4480 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, saved me from posting it. True, she did a very close version though.
@bobd2659
@bobd2659 3 жыл бұрын
I'll play the role of "the other guy" here and point out it's not generally called a "Trans-Atlantic" accent, it's a "Mid-Atlantic" accent, at least when taught in drama schools.
@88michaelandersen
@88michaelandersen 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobd2659 Both names for the accent are given on the wikipedia page for that accent.
@jordillach3222
@jordillach3222 3 жыл бұрын
Before I even took my first flight lesson, as a lover of all things aviation, I got an air band scanner and armed with all pertinent charts for at least a year, I think, I spent hours and hours listening to ATC and picturing in my mind everything was happening at airports and aloft. I also decided to sign up with VATSIM to use it with my flight simulator at home and used it all the time. Then, a friend of mine who was a pilot, just like several times before, took me to fly with him in a C172 and asked if I wanted to do the radio calls. I of course immediately accepted and oh, it was just second nature! It was as if I had been doing it for years! No stage panic at all and I had also created my own system to take notes of instructions as Kelsey suggests, so, no sweat. It was a wonderful day. Ever since, I recommend that practice to anyone who wants to take flight lessons.
@rnbham39
@rnbham39 2 жыл бұрын
Humility in life, in any domain or industry is starkly underrated!!! I so appreciate this guy!!!
@JoeCubicle
@JoeCubicle 2 жыл бұрын
I could watch your videos all day long. My Dad was military ATC and I have never really appreciated it until now in my middle age and he has since gone 'Home' a few years back. I appreciate hearing both sides. Aviation is amazing.
@shannaveganamcinnis-hurd405
@shannaveganamcinnis-hurd405 Жыл бұрын
Same here. My dad was an International Airline Captain and I didn’t really appreciate what he did like I do now. I was always proud of him, but now even more so. ❤
@robbflynn4325
@robbflynn4325 3 жыл бұрын
I did my first solo in a Cessna 172 back in the mid 80's at Sebring Airport in Florida. I completed it after only 4 and a half hours of instruction. I was on a complete high afterwards. I thought I was destined to be a pilot flying 747's, or even be the next Maverick flying the Tomcat (Top Gun was the big movie at the time). Didn't quite work out. I built up enough hours to obtain my PPL but never got it. Was too easily flustered, amongst other things during my first solo cross country I somehow managed to land at the wrong airport! I just never trusted or had faith in myself, lacked maturity and didn't have the smarts to proceed as things got more difficult. Still love all things aviation though. I now drive a truck, lol.
@charlotteinnocent8752
@charlotteinnocent8752 3 жыл бұрын
I'd bet if you solo'd 2 years older you'd have been alright.
@robbflynn4325
@robbflynn4325 3 жыл бұрын
@@charlotteinnocent8752 Maybe. I think I could have possibly obtained my PPL but not much beyond that. I look at the stuff pilots have to grasp and be comfortable with, for example, instrument flying, and I reckon it would be well beyond my limits. Now I'm older I would love to get into flying microlights just for the fun element and the simplicity, maybe it's something I'll pursue when the pandemic is over.
@charlotteinnocent8752
@charlotteinnocent8752 3 жыл бұрын
@@robbflynn4325 You could always have stuck with a VFR license! But you should give it a go, you can't say for certain you couldn't handle it!
@robbflynn4325
@robbflynn4325 3 жыл бұрын
@@charlotteinnocent8752 Thanks but too old now but as I saw flying a microlight may be something I look into, there is a microlight airport pretty close to where I live!
@robbflynn4325
@robbflynn4325 3 жыл бұрын
@Cindy Tartt aw thanks, yes it can be somewhat of a disappointment not to achieve something you set your heart on, but you just have to move on and stay positive!
@mshighaltitude
@mshighaltitude 3 жыл бұрын
Kelsey you are getting better and better at explaining these ATC calls! In the Joplin case, I do feel the responsibility primarily rests with the instructor. True, the student was clearly unprepared and I wouldn’t have gone if I were her. I mean, how could someone be sent out to solo without even knowing how to taxi around her home airport is beyond me. But like you said, she didn’t know what she didn’t know, and even if she did, she’s probably so young that she didn’t know to decline when the instructor sent her out. Also, at the end of the day, she’s flying on the instructor’s license. I would have a lot of reservations letting a student like that go do her solo but I’m just a low time private pilot so what do I know. 🤷🏻‍♀️😂
@behindthen0thing525
@behindthen0thing525 3 жыл бұрын
Are you the girl
@VictoryAviation
@VictoryAviation 3 жыл бұрын
She was set up for failure, but she had quite the self entitled attitude as well. I would be embarrassed if I was one of her parents just based on her attitude.
@mshighaltitude
@mshighaltitude 3 жыл бұрын
@@behindthen0thing525 no her English is a lot better than mine. 😄
@mshighaltitude
@mshighaltitude 3 жыл бұрын
@@VictoryAviation Agreed. I didn’t want to jump on the “you didn’t ask” part but definitely raised an eyebrow when I heard that. The controller put up with a lot and honestly was very nice about it. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’d just send her back to the ramp at a busier airport and ask for her instructor to call in for a chat.
@bobroenigk
@bobroenigk 3 жыл бұрын
She seems to be talking like Paris Hilton.
@115garyman
@115garyman 3 жыл бұрын
I am forever indebted to the ATC crew at Teterboro back in 1970. I was an 18 yrold student pilot with 4 solos under my belt, still nervous as hell, on final approach when ATC told me to check my airspeed. I pushed the aircraft's nose down just as the stall warning went off. Fortunately, I completed the landing with no problem. With my heart in my throat, I was able to thank the folks in the tower.
@82Echo411
@82Echo411 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations. Training @ Teterboro is like taking driving lessons in Manhattan. Teterboro is complicated since its runway is almost an extension of Newark's N/S runway.
@antiqueradioarcheology-wil8878
@antiqueradioarcheology-wil8878 2 жыл бұрын
On my first solo, the instructor had me pull up in front of the Tower at PDK (Peachtree Dekalb Airport) Atlanta. He told me I was doing my Solo then hopped out of the plane. I proceeded to taxi to the end of the runway. Did all my checklists, and prepared to take off. As I started the takeoff, I got my speed, climbout was great, then I entered my left crosswind and that's when the door on the right side of the plane popped open! It went from an easy solo to controlled chaos. I kept trying to stick to my flying, communicating, checklists, and was trying to close and latch that door, which was slightly out of reach all at the same time. Instead of doing a touch a go, I landed the plane instead. When I taxied back to the tower, I started screaming at my instructor for not latching the door. He couldn't stop laughing. I thought he did it on purpose, but he really didn't realize he didn't latch it. But I'll tell you what, I never take off without checking that door!
@BrowithStoryCool
@BrowithStoryCool 4 ай бұрын
Had doors open all the time as a student pilot
@dansbrown1313
@dansbrown1313 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Kelsey, Paramedics also communicate with dispatch centers using the phonetic alphabet, so I always advised my students to read off vehicle license plates as they drive around. It quickly becomes much easier for them to use and understand. Cheers
@kayelle8005
@kayelle8005 Жыл бұрын
My Dad taught me the military alphabet in the 70s and I perfected it watching The Bill, listening to the police say plates.
@desertdaisymarie6951
@desertdaisymarie6951 9 ай бұрын
Learn to spell using it, starting with your name.. Works a treat 👍🏻
@PetThePeeves
@PetThePeeves Ай бұрын
My brother would drill me on it before we’d fly his plane (hobby pilot). If I’d had that trick it would have been MUCH faster!
@ModernClassic
@ModernClassic 3 жыл бұрын
Well, Cate Blanchett doing Katharine Hepburn, anyway :) As an instructor on a recent instruction flight, I actually had a student solo enter the runway in front of us while on final to land. The tower instructed us to go around, told the student solo to get off the runway and then asked her what happened. She said, "I was trying to line up and wait!" He had told her to hold short, which I verified by listening to the LiveATC recording afterwards. An interesting facet to this is that my flight school had just the day before sent out a message to all students and instructors about the "line up and wait" instruction, because apparently several student soloists had received that instruction and then taken off. This student who did the runway incursion in front of me probably had that in her head and was determined to do it right, lining up and then waiting without taking off. That message from my flight school is the law of unintended consequences in action...
@spvillano
@spvillano 2 жыл бұрын
In the case of abbreviated read-back, I'd likely include the potential conflicts in front of me back. I learned to be *really* clear on comms in the Army. An error could put the artillery strike on my head, rather than on the other guys.
@falyoung2784
@falyoung2784 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love how the controller is talking to her, taking her under his wing (no pun in tended) and being so paternal and patient with this nervous novice student. That's a good controller.
@toericabaker
@toericabaker 2 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? he was a little irritated at first, then got snarky with her at the end?
@rogjack9425
@rogjack9425 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't she with ground first?
@Rocker-1234
@Rocker-1234 2 жыл бұрын
​@@toericabaker that was the second controller wasnt it? the first one was kind but after the frequency change to tower the new controller was a grumpy a**
@oahuhawaii2141
@oahuhawaii2141 2 жыл бұрын
@@toericabaker: While she was in contact with the ground controller, he figured out by her bad comms that she was a student doing a solo. Once she switched frequency to ATC, she continued with her bad comms, but ATC didn't know she was doing her first solo with 3 takeoffs and 3 landings. She should've stated her solo status and intentions, rather than let ATC figure it out, because once she gets the runway and then takes off, the risks become far greater for everyone on the ground and in the air.
@brian7908
@brian7908 3 жыл бұрын
I’m often amazed at how many student pilots I see getting lost at on ground. Flight instructors- how are you not teaching your student pilots to review the airport diagram and discuss the likely taxi routes prior to calling ground? Or at least teaching them to tell ground they are students and would appreciate progressive instructions. I am much happier to give you turn by turn instructions and baby you around the airport, than to turn my attention elsewhere for a minute only to find you halfway across the a/p and lost. Communication with ATC is not nearly emphasized enough during training and it leads pilots to being scared of us and trying to avoid us. The whole point of our job is to baby pilots around. The more experienced you become as a pilot, the less handholding I need to do, and the more your able to handle on your own. The tone of your voice and your pace of speech tells me what I need to know about your experience- so don’t try to sound more capable that you actually are. Just be an adult and ask for some assistance if you need it- like when the lady here ask ATC to go slower. That was good, but she probably should have just said, you know, I might just need some progressive.
@spvillano
@spvillano 2 жыл бұрын
Even with intimate familiarization, one can easily go into information overload. I'm well known to thrive in steep learning curve environments, but even I can get overloaded in a fairly novel for me environment. After handling some of the more complex tasks has been achieved, one lose the ungrounded, confused overload as habits begin to form. Hopefully, good habits. My experience taught me, be the first to ask for help when I'm out of my depth and before the need becomes emergent. Well, that and challenging instructions that are clearly suicidal, clearly outlining why it's a suicidal instruction, s gently as is reasonable. Gotta be polite to the air buss, while not allowing the bastard to kill you. ;) So, when one has that sensation of floating over themselves due to overload and one is solo, there's only one other source to offload to, that's a radio call away. The reason that ATC exists is to get aircraft and crew from their travel point to another safely and to as fully facilitate that accordingly. On occasion, that's to offload an overloaded pilot as much as is possible.
@74gear
@74gear 2 жыл бұрын
not just student pilots, it happens to airline pilots too just easier with two or more of us up there... and a few thousand hours doing it.
@tirsden
@tirsden 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder if more time should be spent doing simple taxiing around an airport during non-busy times, with ATC giving semi-random instructions and the student pilot doing readbacks and trying to follow the taxi route with the instructor present. Honestly have no idea how pilot training goes with that, but it sounds like the girl in this video had very little of any of that kind of practice.
@gbeving3167
@gbeving3167 2 жыл бұрын
I was taught not to write, I’m starting today
@annem1816
@annem1816 2 жыл бұрын
With how many people who can’t navigate out of IKEA, or properly exit roundabouts, you are kinda expecting a little much here...🤣🤣 (not that there’s anything wrong with standards)
@EdSmith93277
@EdSmith93277 3 жыл бұрын
I just recently found your channel and am having sooo much fun. Thanks. This particular video gave me flashbacks! I'm 60 now but in my 20's I was in the USAF and in training at Keesler AFB. My roommate was studying to be an Air Traffic Controller. I remember coming into my dorm room and he has socks and shoes and underwear placed all around the room. He was practicing giving taxiing instruction, landing instruction, planes in the pattern.... As a young guy you want to make fun of him - but I respected his dedication to practice... study... and get it right. I don't know what happen to him - but I'm pretty sure he was amazing. Thanks for the memory.
@mikylak7983
@mikylak7983 Жыл бұрын
This made me chuckle a bit. When going to school to be a surgical tech I did pretty much the same thing. Towels, bowls, kitchen utensils, i found anything and everything to practice opening and setting up. I'll admit it I felt stupid when people would see me but I was also the only student in my class to get a job offer from the hospital I did my extern at. Not sure now, but I also know I was the only one in my class actually working in the field a year later. It may look silly but it pays off later when you've got the basics down and can actually set your mind on the important things you should currently be learning.
@elisaduffy5950
@elisaduffy5950 Ай бұрын
I love how you include passenger etiquette and appreciation for that the crew is actually doing. All passenger need to be quiet, listen, follow directions, be respectful and considerate. The way I traveled is now on display at the Smithsonian in D.C. Very, very beautiful way to travel. Passengers understood that the crew is highly trained and keeping all passengers safe. We would clap when we landed. Huge appreciation to all for delivering us safely. I loved flying.
@pulpopelirojo68
@pulpopelirojo68 3 жыл бұрын
Actually I think this controller showed extreme patience and consideration for the learner pilot, who should be far more confident on the correct radio comms - definitely an area to improve on for both the learner and the flight school / instructor.
@Reaperdeathpunch
@Reaperdeathpunch 2 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair she did say she was doing her solo then the dolt in the tower acted like he didn't know that after her telling him she's doing her solo.
@oahuhawaii2141
@oahuhawaii2141 2 жыл бұрын
@@Reaperdeathpunch: I thought while she was in contact with the ground controller, he figured out she was a student doing a solo by her bad comms. Once she switched frequency to ATC, she continued with her bad comms, but ATC didn't realize she was doing her first solo with 3 takeoffs and 3 landings. She should've stated her solo status and intentions, rather than let ATC figure it out, because once she gets the runway and then takes off, the risks become far greater for everyone on the ground and in the air.
@oliverwest3010
@oliverwest3010 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree.
@Zhincore
@Zhincore 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like most of the stuff he says can be applied to most things in life... accepting your mistakes, not blaming others, treat other people nicely, etc. etc. xD I love it
@redboyjan
@redboyjan 2 жыл бұрын
We called that common sense once upon a time
@caseydykes117
@caseydykes117 10 ай бұрын
I love aviation for this reason. Common sense, simply, isn't common. To have some reasonable guidance and genuine advice is priceless❤️ makes those that may feel 'slower' then the rest be seen and heard!!!
@annt7384
@annt7384 9 ай бұрын
So true! You don’t have to memorize different sets of rules. Treat others with respect and behave honorably. And stay curious!
@garyb8528
@garyb8528 3 жыл бұрын
I had my PPL and had always prided myself on trying to always sound professional and it really worked. When I started my IFR training however, the first cross country I was going to do with my CFII, I was immediately humble copying and reading back my clearance. I was lost immediately and my CFII had to take over. I always monitored ATC broadcasts from home and within a few flights, I was back with my professional attitude and “pilot” voice. Thanks for this one Kelsey. Love the channel
@EarleBeasley
@EarleBeasley 2 жыл бұрын
As you mentioned (04:08), Kelsey, a compact airplane potty can soon become quite nasty if too many of its visitors stand in front of the bowl and ignore their splattered and missed shots. My mother taught her four boys one simple act of bathroom etiquette that has helped us avoid "sprinkling" the toilet, thereby creating a sanitation crisis for the next person visiting the lu. Her advice (command) established that a gentleman ALWAYS SITS so a lady NEVER has to stand. Good idea. She also added one more directive that was especially helpful in airplane potties. "Before you leave, take a towelette and do something (anything) to make the facility cleaner than it was before you came in." Mom died back in 2017. But, whenever I think of her and her wise counsel, I become "flushed with admiration".
@Sally4th_
@Sally4th_ 2 жыл бұрын
"If you sprinkle when you tinkle, be a sweet and wipe the seat."
@spvillano
@spvillano 2 жыл бұрын
My aunt had a plaque on the bathroom wall that read, "If you sprinkle when you tinkle, please be neat and wipe the seat". On an Army latrine wall, "Be like Dad, not like Sis, lift the seat before you piss".
@MyHentaiGirl
@MyHentaiGirl Жыл бұрын
Same apply for construction potty Seriously some people just make it more nasty for everyone Those potty are hot like hell and it doesn't help if there is piss everywhere and unflush toilet paper stuck with shjt Always save my business for lunch so i could go in a Maccas's toilet
@SobeCrunkMonster
@SobeCrunkMonster Жыл бұрын
why would you sit and pee when you can just pee like a man and then also just wipe the seat real quick. wtf???
@samuelese22
@samuelese22 Жыл бұрын
@@SobeCrunkMonsterhahahahahahahahh 😂😂 I was hoping there was a comment like that in this thread and you delivered 🤝🏼
@FredFolkerts
@FredFolkerts 11 ай бұрын
Two year old video and yet it speaks volumes. Pilots and the ATC working together is so important. As you mentioned its a team. Yes it might be a short period of time but its so important to work together.
@terrynorton4561
@terrynorton4561 3 жыл бұрын
Was flying out of San Francisco in a cyclone while pregnant. I must have filled 6 plus sick bags; people were handing them to my hubby. I was fine once we got past the Sierras. It was embarrassing but the flight crew were soooo nice and everyone was sympathetic.
@millomweb
@millomweb 3 жыл бұрын
Pregnancy is a statutory defence to being human.
@Crossword131
@Crossword131 3 жыл бұрын
Do you mean hurricane? We don't have cyclones at SFO.
@Crossword131
@Crossword131 3 жыл бұрын
Or hurricanes really... You mean there was turbulence, yeah?
@LethalRain9
@LethalRain9 3 жыл бұрын
Why was there a dire need to fly when pregnant?
@philtll
@philtll 3 жыл бұрын
@@Crossword131 a supercell thunderstorm is a type of cyclone (mesocyclone)
@drummerpatrick18
@drummerpatrick18 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched a lot of your videos, and I gotta say, after this one, I subscribed. The fact that you look at the situation from so many angles, and the fact that you're understanding and compassionate really speaks volumes on your character. Keep the blue side up
@carschmn
@carschmn 3 жыл бұрын
“We don’t become super snipers once the turbulence hits” 😂
@moodrider
@moodrider Жыл бұрын
Thank you for these videos. I am a severely nervous flying passenger, but I have to fly for work. And I LOVE my job. I must have flown at least 150 times and still get so anxious (although better than I was, Ive stopped dying a 1000 deaths every time the engine noise changes) I do find watching your videos is helping me a lot. So THANK YOU a bazillion times
@74gear
@74gear Жыл бұрын
happy to help do my little part!!
@rustyclam238
@rustyclam238 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you talk about general aviation on your channel. When I was starting to learn to fly it was from PBIA an International air port. I had a radio at home that I could listen to ATC. It helped greatly.. I was never intimidated by large fast talking airports.
@tlgibson97
@tlgibson97 3 жыл бұрын
When you're a student pilot sometimes you wish you could hit pause and collect your thoughts. The more you mess up little thing the more overwhelmed you get.
@georgew.detuccio6259
@georgew.detuccio6259 3 жыл бұрын
Like quicksand.... the more you get flustered, the worse it gets.
@ivechang6720
@ivechang6720 3 жыл бұрын
True in so many areas in life. 👌
@charlesandresen-reed1514
@charlesandresen-reed1514 3 жыл бұрын
There's one aspect to learning any skill I think a lot of people either disregard or don't fully think of; you don't know what you don't know. If your instructor missed something, or your instructions were vague or you heard/studied wrong radio phraseology or anything of that nature, well, you don't know what that instruction missed. Your first opportunity to discover what that was... is when you fail to do it/know it. And then, exactly right, once you discover that, you get a bit overwhelmed, because you also get that little voice in the back of your mind going "well if you didn't know that... what else don't you know?" And now that gets to be something that you consciously think of for the remainder of that experience.
@lisamaranto353
@lisamaranto353 3 жыл бұрын
I love your recommendations for how to improve her confidence & skills, as well as ATC’s role in improving the team dynamics. Snarkiness never works. You break it down so concisely. Love your videos!
@dotesondots
@dotesondots Жыл бұрын
I know nothing about aviation except as a passenger. I came across your channel and really enjoy seeing the "inside story" of flying from your viewpoint. It was obvious that the student pilot was not prepared for her solo and that she was rattled and very anxious which I would be also. Your suggestion that the ATC wait until she parked the plane then give her a phone number for a conference call with her instructor was excellent. I'm sure she became even more anxious after speaking with ATC because she stopped using her call sign. A little kindness goes a long way. Thanks for the great videos.
@benjammin1001
@benjammin1001 2 жыл бұрын
I was very apprehensive about having good phraseology. I did exactly that -- When I was a student pilot, I used my scanner to listen to the local airport and it really helped.
@mrpmessina
@mrpmessina 3 жыл бұрын
I never heard that term “Super sniper” to identify someone who absolutely nails the toilet bowl every time and in any condition. Absolutely loving it. You crack me up, Kelsey! Loving it. Keep up the great work!!!
@DivisibleByWaffle
@DivisibleByWaffle 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Kelsey! I just wanted to drop a line here and say thanks for thr great content. I'm a medical lab scientist, so aviation is about as far out from my professional knowledge as it gets. It's really fun and rewarding to watch a pilot talk about the ins and outs of aviation. I've learned so much since I started watching. Keep it up!
@minoew5
@minoew5 2 жыл бұрын
The training requirements for student pilots is not common knowledge at all for controller. I know them because I took some flight training, but I had no idea about the 3 takeoffs and landings before that point.
@PetThePeeves
@PetThePeeves Жыл бұрын
Art teacher so I win on the “why the hell are you here” thing haha but it’s fascinating!
@Cre8tvMG
@Cre8tvMG Жыл бұрын
If you love aviation videos I bet you’ll be a pilot some day. If you think listening is fun, just try soaring!
@caramanico1
@caramanico1 2 жыл бұрын
I feel HORRIBLE about this. I was the arranger for Red Cross Blood Drives for my company. I set one up and it ended up being on the day I was flying out on vacation in the late afternoon. So I figured I would give blood first thing very early morning, triple up on being hydrated before and after and eat super well. STOOOOOPID. 2-3 minutes after wheels up I grayed-out about 95%. Could not open my eyes but could hear the attendant and communicate with her fine. She kept telling me we could turn around for an immediate landing and I kept insisting that I was fine. I would not have said that if I honestly did not think so, and I was. The pilot talked with me upon landing, I told him of my precautions, then he told me that they are grounded for three full days after such a medical procedure. My fault entirely - I should have done some research. Thank Christ I didn't ruin the flight for everybody on board.
@McPierogiPazza
@McPierogiPazza Жыл бұрын
How embarrassing. But kudos for being a donor and helping others give. This story may be the only time I'm glad I can't give because of a medical condition. That and I miss out on the cookies.
@pentabular
@pentabular 2 ай бұрын
Phraseology is so important in multiple professions! Seriously patient ATC.
@justanotherguy3850
@justanotherguy3850 3 жыл бұрын
I love this video. It reminds me of when I was at 20 hours and soloing for the first time. I did not tell ATC I was a student on solo. I was at an airport that I was familiar with and they were familiar with me. I had an excellent flight instructor. In fact when I soloed he was up in the tower watching me. Each time I would land the tower would congratulate me on a good Landing. We had good communications. On one of my short lengths I went to an airport and I was too low and ATC asked me my altitude and then politely gave me the correct pattern altitude. A pleasant exchange and a lesson learned. Thank you for another excellent video!
@bobbnick
@bobbnick 3 жыл бұрын
That was why I became an air traffic controller, as a student pilot I was afraid to go to a tower controlled airport. I couldn’t understand them, then I became one, no problem now. That might be a bit extreme, lol.
@lizzy23123
@lizzy23123 2 жыл бұрын
Live ATC combined with the airport diagram and flight radar is gold for training. Either starting private or just getting used to an airport.
@bladebaron9351
@bladebaron9351 Ай бұрын
Oh God, you just made me crack up. Writing out the whole "Bravo Delta Charlie" when those are only there as stand-ins for the letters themselves, that just struck me as so funny. Good laugh!
@kaotichippo
@kaotichippo 3 жыл бұрын
The pilot booking desk usually broadcasts the radio. I'm almost positive that every instructor hanging out at the front desk heard everything.
@jimknapp8731
@jimknapp8731 3 жыл бұрын
I would hope that most instructors would be listening to their student's first solo.
@loopbackish
@loopbackish 3 жыл бұрын
If the instructor had a transmitter they could have done the radio for her and just left her to fly 😄 I wonder if ATC has VDF and would notice the transmission coming from the wrong direction!
@CaptainKirkW
@CaptainKirkW 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimknapp8731 instructor wasn’t there.
@jimknapp8731
@jimknapp8731 3 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainKirkW Understand, yet that doesn't mean he / she couldn't monitor knowing student's plan to solo.
@CaptainKirkW
@CaptainKirkW 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimknapp8731 very difficult if the instructor isn’t even at the airport.
@wings2004
@wings2004 3 жыл бұрын
When I was in military pilot training they appended solo to the end of your callsign when on solos. This way everyone in the pattern or areas know you are solo, all the controllers know you are solo, and they give you a wide berth. Not sure if they are doing that now, but it was really helpful and you were able to find your classmates to throw them in the dunk tank after much easier on the scanner that way.
@michaelirwin7258
@michaelirwin7258 3 жыл бұрын
I did something similar when I was stationed at Ramstein working on my PPL in the late 80's. All communications included "student" somewhere in my transmissions. There was never a doubt I was not an experienced pilot yet.
@joshuapatrick682
@joshuapatrick682 Жыл бұрын
"You didn't ask"....I honestly don't know if those will be her last words or not. Kind of amazing.
@Spacepokem
@Spacepokem 2 жыл бұрын
Your chanel helps me a lot because i hope to be ground controler one day where i control the planes on the ground so these videos always help me to know what to say
@sjfanning7711
@sjfanning7711 3 жыл бұрын
Yay! A fellow Texan! I’ve been “displaced” for a while but it’s still home. When I grew up, my dad was a salesman who flew a lot. Practically grew up in Love Field!
@DisneyDancer1990
@DisneyDancer1990 3 жыл бұрын
Just soloed on Friday -- luckily I had calm winds at my home airport. And you're right, biggest confidence boost ever!!!!!
@rezerder466
@rezerder466 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations!
@DisneyDancer1990
@DisneyDancer1990 3 жыл бұрын
@@rezerder466 Thank you!!!!!! I am still over the moon, even 2 days later, hahaha.
@rezerder466
@rezerder466 3 жыл бұрын
@@DisneyDancer1990 well deserved!! Good luck and stay safe!!
@tomcorwine3091
@tomcorwine3091 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@regiondeltas
@regiondeltas 3 жыл бұрын
Well done dude! If you thought solo was good - wait until your first solo land away! That's the day you become a pilot, IMHO! Parking up a plane, at another airport and going for a coffee - can't beat it
@Albe3331
@Albe3331 2 жыл бұрын
I like your management approach. Short and to the point without condemnation. Makes it a more pleasant atmosphere to learn.
@lastingfreedom8912
@lastingfreedom8912 2 жыл бұрын
I hate that I found this channel. I am addicted to it.
@EzleRS
@EzleRS 3 жыл бұрын
i've never flown before but if this man was my pilot I'd have 0 worries. This guy seems like a great dude and i love his videos!
@margotrosendorn6371
@margotrosendorn6371 3 жыл бұрын
16:20 regular immersion is such an underrated strategy. Even if you're not trying to learn something, you naturally pick it up when it's a part of your daily life. For example, I speak a fair amount of Spanish, with barely any accent. I took maybe two years of classes; most of it just comes from hearing it spoken around me a lot and watching Spanish TV at home.
@barrymcnamee507
@barrymcnamee507 2 жыл бұрын
"broader scope of responsibility" wise words from a kind man.
@pozzee2809
@pozzee2809 2 жыл бұрын
I love that “she doesn’t know what she doesn’t know”! Absolutely spot on!!
@mamatuja
@mamatuja 3 жыл бұрын
I thought when the air traffic controller says Bravo they mean to compliment me on what I'm doing.😁
@geneharrel773
@geneharrel773 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite Texas phrase (spoken by a true Texan): "I'm just about fixn to get ready". If that ain't Texan I don't know what is.
@donschneider7252
@donschneider7252 3 жыл бұрын
I used to hear I'm fixn to and I'm aimn to and there was a big difference between the two. ha
@bikeny
@bikeny 3 жыл бұрын
@@donschneider7252 For those of us, like me, that are not Texans, should I be worried for what comes after the 'to' for either of those phrases? Or is it a timing thing? Thanks.
@donschneider7252
@donschneider7252 3 жыл бұрын
Fixen to means maken ready and aimen to means thinking about doin it 😁
@markpalmer9002
@markpalmer9002 3 жыл бұрын
Another hotel room, another great video. Heard a galaxy pilot talking on the radio once, he definitely was from Texas.
@goodmeteorologicalmorning4754
@goodmeteorologicalmorning4754 2 жыл бұрын
“We don’t become super snipers once the turbulence hits” Legendary quote
@DragerPilot
@DragerPilot 2 жыл бұрын
I’m proud to say I soloed at 7.8 hours. It’s the realization as soon as your shells leave the ground, that “ oh shit, there no one in here but me”.
@MrRezRising
@MrRezRising 3 жыл бұрын
I guess binge watching your channel is leaving an impression. I was actually able to follow the first guy's comm with the tower, and noted how he was making it so much easier to understand. Then you confirmed. Nice moment. Great channel, K.
@JouMxyzptlk
@JouMxyzptlk 11 ай бұрын
"We got a guy throwing up in the bathroom" - funniest video so far. Will be hard to beat :D.
@elizabethhenderson869
@elizabethhenderson869 2 жыл бұрын
So this explains why my father liked to listen to the tower around the house. Good memories. Love your channel!
@maxboskeljon6440
@maxboskeljon6440 3 жыл бұрын
Hey kelsey! I had a question. What was your most recent mistake you made during a flight? Btw love these vids, Keep it up!
@ElverGalarga-tw4cc
@ElverGalarga-tw4cc 3 жыл бұрын
Kelsey doesn’t make mistakes!!! 🤣👍🤣
@internationalnews5669
@internationalnews5669 3 жыл бұрын
@@ElverGalarga-tw4cc every pilot makes mistakes
@matb9027
@matb9027 3 жыл бұрын
@@internationalnews5669 every human makes mistakes. People should be judged by how they learn from them, rather than the mistake itself (assuming no negligence)!
@CharlieTheAstronaut
@CharlieTheAstronaut 3 жыл бұрын
want to get him fired?
@MorgaineRiddlePrince
@MorgaineRiddlePrince 3 жыл бұрын
Kelsey in a vid about unfortunate landings he mentioned how he landed in a cross wind and made a big bump and also drove in the grass. Not said if same landing.
@odeplugged
@odeplugged 3 жыл бұрын
air traffic controllers speak so damn fast 😂 I don’t know how foreign pilots are able to understand them or keep up with them when speaking
@Iceking007
@Iceking007 9 ай бұрын
Yes I completely agree with your comments about the ATC helping the student pilot out. It didn't seem like he was busy and it was causing problems, so that would be very beneficial for her.
@Ryan-hi6zg
@Ryan-hi6zg Жыл бұрын
Prior to flight school, I found it VERY helpful to play flight simulator on VATSIM. As you are role playing COMS but obviously things are not serious when a mistake happens. Really helps getting used to the lingo and certain details to take note of.
@mashaieanna
@mashaieanna 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! i love listening to ATC and pilots talk. it’s so interesting and also educational. i love your channel!
@vapormissile
@vapormissile 3 жыл бұрын
I love your channel. "You can learn from listening to ATC in your off-time, but only if you aren't doing something dangerous like driving, or doing something weird..." (filmstrip starts in my imagination)
@ArchGBUStanton
@ArchGBUStanton 3 жыл бұрын
Ummm, that's not Katherine Hepburn doing a Texan accent, that's Catt Blanchett doing a Katherine Hepburn's Connecticut accent in the Aviator.
@alancolenso3895
@alancolenso3895 3 жыл бұрын
You’re right, of course, but I’m guessing that it was a joke to make people like us either comment or scratch our heads.
@ArchGBUStanton
@ArchGBUStanton 3 жыл бұрын
@@alancolenso3895 IDK.
@stevendegiorgio3143
@stevendegiorgio3143 Жыл бұрын
Back when I was learning how to fly,it was 'taxi in position and hold",now it's" line up and wait."
@ClearedAsFiled
@ClearedAsFiled Жыл бұрын
I like the old phraseology better...
@balesjo
@balesjo 4 ай бұрын
Speaking of accents, I used to work for a charter operation in Dallas. For a number of years we had regular flights scheduled out of Newark and had pilots and flight attendants who were based there. Most flight attendants had actually been recruited from the NY/NJ area so many had quite the heavy accents associated with that area. I'd worked in flight ops and then moved over crew scheduling so in both positions I had to speak to our crewmembers a lot. Most pilots I had no problem understanding them, but about half of the flight attendants required total attention on my part to understand what they were saying. One of my favorites had a heavy NY accent and her voice was raspy liked she lived on martinis and cigarettes (think Elaine Stritch singing "The Ladies Who Lunch' in the musical "Company"). Loved talking to her. She was really sweet person when I finally met her when she was in Dallas for training. After years taking with crewmembers, I became very adept at quickly being able on heavy accents and following what was said.
@WhiskyCanuck
@WhiskyCanuck 3 жыл бұрын
Not Katherine Hepburn, but Cate Blachett playing Hepburn.
@wiltchamberlain9920
@wiltchamberlain9920 3 жыл бұрын
Just came across your channel recently. I have been spending the week catching up on your log of videos. They've been amazing. My dad worked for TWA for something like 35-40 years (even did some with American after the merger) as a ticket and gate agent (also did a stint in In-Flight Movie as a moonlighter). I have an uncle who did ATC at ORD and a cousin that's a commercial airline mechanic. So, airlines are in my blood. My dad would have absolutely loved your channel, especially these ATC and the Viral Debrief episodes. Not to get sappy about it, but he passed a couple years back from Alzheimer's. So, in a way, watching your videos gives me a loving reminder of conversations I had with my dad about things that would happen at the airport, or of things from family trips we'd take all the time. Oh, the stories he'd tell... Thanks for the posts. Keep flying safe. Glad to subscribe and always excited to see new episodes.
@mertergene9240
@mertergene9240 3 жыл бұрын
I remember my first 20ish hours.. flying the plane was the easiest part... atc was the challenge. If I got my squawk right, major accomplishment. By the way, I think she had to tell the atc at the initial contact that she is a student pilot, on first solo. At least that’s what my instructor told me to do so.
@countluke2334
@countluke2334 3 жыл бұрын
He probably guessed as much, though.
@dk2428
@dk2428 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing out the dificulties and not roasting the novice cessna pilot. As an aircraft engineer i remember how nervous i was, the first time i had to tow/taxi an AC to the other side of the airport. I use the same system, writing down the essentials. 99% of the time ATC will be very helpful. Just do your homework and be prepared. Great channel, new sub!
@higgydufrane
@higgydufrane 3 жыл бұрын
Props for putting some of this on the instructor.
@spike238
@spike238 3 жыл бұрын
Practicing the phonetic alphabet, I'd call out license plates while driving ,
@dstone1701
@dstone1701 3 жыл бұрын
When I was taking lessons, there was a controller that no student wanted to deal with. He would take you to task for even simple beginner's errors, including obvious 'lip slips' or slight hesitations. He expected *everyone* who called the tower to communicate as if they had been doing it for years. He appeared to save his best snark for the novices. Fortunately, I was well versed in both the phonetic alphabet, radio talking and command/response procedures, so I was a lot more comfortable and didn't fluster as easily. I also practiced, as much as I could, what I was going to say, so that I was at least somewhat prepared. Part of that was due to the instructor who always tried to give us plenty of time to hear and repeat what was coming up, so that it wasn't suddenly 'call the tower and ask for inbound touch and go' or whatever.
@redboyjan
@redboyjan 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. Someone needs to do something about this before it affects someone?
@zparkyy1800
@zparkyy1800 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope that girl gets in the air in some bigger aircraft and gets to tell this story. I mean we all know our solos aren't the best, but this is a hilarious string of events during a solo.
@burumunwolf7879
@burumunwolf7879 2 жыл бұрын
It's the same for me, I'm a train engineer. If our dispatch reads out a certain instruction, we have to repeat verbatim. If we say something, even slightly off, our dispatch will repeat the instructions and we will say it again until it's right. It protects them and in reality we our in control of our equipment. Our tain number (call sign) must be stated for all transmissions
@ChrisMuellerMusic
@ChrisMuellerMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Kelsey, I usually like all of your content but this - even though I already knew about the incident with the vomiting passenger - was outstandingly funny. Especially your explanation of how the poor soul has probably been in the lavatory with the door open. Well done man! Thanks
@ramrod132
@ramrod132 2 жыл бұрын
If I was the person sitting next to the vomiting person, I would have been extremely grateful that they went to the bathroom.
@anonanon1597
@anonanon1597 2 жыл бұрын
@@ramrod132 as long as you didn't miss your next flight, that is
@4xoverland
@4xoverland 3 жыл бұрын
Oh. I really felt for her. Been there, done that.
@charisma-hornum-fries
@charisma-hornum-fries 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. She must’ve been intimidated by it all.
@irishmist2969
@irishmist2969 10 ай бұрын
I do not want to be a pilot, in fact I have a fear of heights and flying but am I weird for enjoying these videos????? I have learned so much from them and really enjoy Kelsy's delivery, humour and humility. Think I need to see a shrink 🙃
@randallshughart
@randallshughart 2 жыл бұрын
This is so painful to hear how much she struggles. I've passed my license in the UK, most of us students were foreigners. Never had any problem being French, nor the other nationality in my ATPL course. On top of that, we add "student" in front of our call sign to specify to control that we are flying solo.
@johncast9565
@johncast9565 3 жыл бұрын
Houston also says it's a "intercontinental" airport rather then a international airport 🤷🏼‍♂️
@LKA-si7ln
@LKA-si7ln 3 жыл бұрын
It’s because it used to be the home hub for Continental Airlines before they merged with United. So they decided to get cute with the name.
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