7950X3D Setup Guide (Bios Settings, Ram Timings, and Undervolting)

[@Beefy-Tech]

WARNING: if you have poor case airflow or can tell the inside of your case gets really hot, don't set the TREFI timing more then 35000-40000. It is EXTREMELY temperature sensitive, and can cause random shutdowns or restarts despite your ram seeming stable! In this video mine was 50000, I tried max it out at 65000 and noticed the random shutdown after a day...I did the research and lone behold here I am! Just had to let you guys know so you don't have the same issue!

[@n0pe_7]

My 6400 cl32 runs 50.000 in the xmp profile. Hm no shutdowns since weeks. But i also have an lian li lancool III with very good airflow

[@Golyem]

For those of us who know nothing of OC'ing or anything but just physically building the system: How do we figure out the reason the pc is shutting down or BSOD'ing is RAM or temp related? Is there a win11 log tool or 3rd party we can use to figure this out?

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@Golyem not that I know off...the easiest way to troubleshoot issues is to test all hardware before software. First step is replugging absolutely everything in. If you don't have an integrated gpu in your cpu, your next steps is to swap to a spare gpu of any kind, and retry to boot to rule out gpu. If you have integrated gpu, plug hdmi into motherboard and try boot. If your motherboard has some little lights on it with writing next to them, it can even tell you what the issue with booting is. It depends what motherboard you have.

[@Golyem]

@@Beefy-Tech Thank you, I appreciate your time to respond!

[@thedo0d255]

Beefy, I do not have the cppc setting in my bios. I’m trying to figure out how to get my machine to “prefer cache”, but can’t find the setting. I do have AMD CBS, buts it.

[@MustafaGT]

Welp, I spent the whole day gaming. About 5 hours of Warzone and 4 hours of MSFS 2020. Not a single crash or issue. Running rock solid with big time performance boost. I kept tref at 40000 as you recommended and is solid so far. Really didn’t think fine tuning my Gskill Trident Neo 32GB CL30 6000 would get any better from the already Expo profile. Boy was I wrong. Also, I ran Memtest86 for 4 passes which lasted about 4 hours and passed with no errors. Thanks again so much for this. Keep us updated with any new tweaks

[@Beefy-Tech]

That's perfect to hear! I'm also rock solid at 40000 rn, and it's definitely worth doing a custom tune even on expo kits! Beauty of this tune is that it'll work for 99% of 6000mhz cl38 or below kits, and worst case scenerio setting a timing or 2 higher gets it to full stability, so def worth it over stock given the gains 🙌👍

[@YashvirGaming]

@@Beefy-Tech Hi, i have AIR cooler fuma 3 sythe, whats best for me to Undervolt i kinda got lost here at 7:19 undervolting so do i set all of them to negative 20 or only the first 1-8 to -20(Negative) & the rest to Positive?

[@ITSMTAKANJITOOU]

Can you help me I have the same ram

[@ITSMTAKANJITOOU]

Why set to 40000 I thought lower was better

[@ripleyhrgiger4669]

@@Beefy-Tech What about GSkill CL30 DDR5? Should I leave it alone and only use the stock EXPO profiles?

[@MustafaGT]

So I did a few test with SMT On and Off and it seems it all depends on the games. For example, in MSFS with SMT off, I get a few more FPS but in Warzone I get less FPS with SMT off. With SMT on, I get more fps in warzone but less fps on MSFS. So it all comes down to the game I guess

[@MustafaGT]

Dude, I applied your RAM timings to my Gskill 6000 CL30 and gained me huge performance boost. Thanks for this.

[@Beefy-Tech]

Quick mention, If you get any restarts of any sort, Lower the TREFI to 35000. It's super heat sensitive and can result in restarts as a result of high heat. otherwise the ram tune should be perfect stable 👍 enjoy the performance fam!

[@MustafaGT]

@@Beefy-Tech I have a fractal torrent with a 360 AIO. It’s a pretty good case for airflow. Did you leave your setting at 50000 and have you been stable with it? Or did you go down to 35000 as well?

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@MustafaGT on a white coolermaster h500 mesh and I took it down to be safe, didn't see much of a performance loss at all, but will have to do further testing.

[@xFMJ1Q8]

Whats your GPU AND CPU ??

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@xFMJ1Q8 RTX 4090 and a 7950X3D with 32GB of ddr5 ram

[@R4ND4LLL]

Hey man thank you so much for the guidelines, after 8 years with my 4790k 4.6 1.25v 2400 cl12 1.6v i decided to upgrade to this cpu and holy moly amd bios infinity fabric tons of new settings lack of manual voltage section etc hit me so hard. But you explained it very well and made things more clear. Again thank you so much this is just a appreciation comment ❤ Hope i can squeeze max oc of this cpu but i need to learn what curve, offset and every other settings mean.

[@Beefy-Tech]

Gotchu fam! In this guide I didn't include using Process Lasso for setting up the cpu so if you bought a 7950x3d I highly recommend learning how to use process lasso, it's quiet simple at its core but looks intimidating. If you use process lasso, It'll guarantee you get all the performance from your brand new fancy CPU👍

[@officialyashvirgaming]

@@Beefy-Tech can you put bottom fans in that Coolermaster h500 mesh and side fans cuz i cannot , i only have a 360mm AIO deepcool LT720 + 1x 120mm REAR fans + 2x 200mm front fans I wanted to remove both PSU box + HDD cadddy box and try to put bottom or side fans, The side fans i think we cannot as there is no brackets to screw those fans DAMN we're screwed

[@genergia]

Some games don’t benefit of 3D vcache. Also, when Ray tracing is active on some games, the chipset driver wants to use the frequency CCD in addition to cache CCD. I advise to let CPPC option in bios to default. Last chipset drivers, last bios, game bar updated and « game mode » enabled are sufficient to manage CCD’s as they should, whatever the applications.

[@michaelduernecker684]

Thank you for your great Content. Update: On my Asusboard with the newest Firmware, all Sims (DCS, Xplane, MSFS 2020 a.s.o., works best with CPPC Auto. I test it much. So smooth. Driver and Cache works not so good as Auto. My Setup: Asus x670e-f, 7950X3D, RTX 4090, 64 GB DDR5 6000Mhz, Reverb G2 with OpenXR 150% Setting. All other Settings from you in the Bios. Core 1-7 -20 only core 1 -25. Thank you very much. Regards Michael

[@n0pe_7]

I think -20 is very good on a ryzen 7950x(3d), not mediocore Not seen many who get more than -15 or 20 on their 7900x. Only ob the smaller chips like 7600 or 7700x ive seen people gettin -30 My 7700x does only -18 stable on all cores I didnt want to sacrifice the time to test on a per core basis. But also mention that my 7700x runs with an Infinity Fabric of 213hz and 6400 cl32 ram. Maybe with 2000 and 6000cl30 i would get an better undervolt🤷🏼 who knows

[@Beefy-Tech]

To be honest I just compared it against the 5800x3d which I know ran -25 or -30mv quiet commonly. I'm glad to know -20 isn't actually bad for these cpu's. They go up to -40MV so I thought I got unlucky! Also 2133 with 6200mhz is really good. I'm considering giving that a try but I'll have to adjust the timings if so, and indeed it might affect the undervolt when hitting such a High FCLK + frequency on ram, but who knows, we can only test xD

[@n0pe_7]

@@Beefy-Tech -30 curve optimizer doesnt mean -30 mV Every point in curve optimizer is 2-3 mV So at -30 you get actually -80/90 mV

[@JuZz97]

Only in warzone I have bad fps, in other games I have super fps and as it should be

[@Beefy-Tech]

Yup. Unfortunately warzone 2 is a mess for optimization!

[@JuZz97]

@@Beefy-Tech best settings for a 13700k ?

[@IGame4Fun2]

What is "bad fps" anyway??😂

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@JuZz97 should be similar to what I had in the video

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@IGame4Fun2 60 fps probably 😂 but tbh anything under 100 isn't great for WZ2.

[@Boba_Gaming]

Nice video. Yesterday i turned resizeable bar on and got 340fps on my 7950X 4090 setup. I don´t know if i get more performance out of the 7950X3D

[@toknowiskey]

Yeah I just learned about that

[@Beefy-Tech]

Yes, it is on in these tests👍

[@Remu-]

If you force Resizable Bar on globally with Nvidia Profile Inspector you can get even more fps. I've seen 10-25% boost. Google "resizable bar nvidia profile inspector" for instructions.

[@YashvirGaming]

@@Beefy-Tech What is your bios are you on latest v1.30 beta ? im on 1.28 Asrock bios

[@andremessado7659]

I have the same board and CPU and my ram speed is the same. Thank you so much for this info. The memory timing info was a huge help.

[@officialyashvirgaming]

And i have the same PC case as he has and yeah he mentioned we are kinda limited with cooling, there are NOT much options to install bottom fans or side fans And it's TRUE. As I too cannot , i'm depending on my 360mm AIO + 2x front fans 200mm + 1 rear 120mm fan ... That's all. This case is big yes but is a nightmare

[@sxx01]

Why do you recommend 1.4 for the ram voltage. Thats not what was recommend for this. Works fine with the recommended 1.36 This timings are tested for hynix btw Prefere cache, doesn't it mean all processes will prefere cache? Means all shit will run on the ccd where you want your games running.

[@Beefy-Tech]

1.4v is because not all kits are equal, and these timings are For Hynix M die and above, Essentially 95% of ddr5 6000+ mhz kits. If I gave everyone 1.36v and the fully tightened hynix M die timings (which can get tighter) a lot of people would have issues with running it, so I gave them a voltage that'll work on basically all 6000 32gb kits, and timings that'll work on any M die and above, and a lot of samsung kits. Also yes, prefer cache doesn't guarantee it'll run on cache, that's where I recommend you either consider running lasso and AMD intended setup... And yes, all shit NEEDS to run on ccd where your games are or you'll see a hefty performance penalty. If both CCD's are being heavily used by 2 more intense tasks ull lose performance.

[@YashvirGaming]

@@Beefy-Tech what if i skip the ram timings and just set the undervolt only will that work?

[@milordas]

i found only g.skill ram support 1,35v, as kingston is 1,4v

[@sxx01]

@@Beefy-Tech ​ i missed this reply somehow. Cant remeber the ram part 1 year later tbh. I cant confirm your Theorie about perfomance penalty when spreading load about both ccds. using frequenzy and binding games on cash ccd via lasso is giving best performance in most cases. Tested different games with all available options. And disableing smp is better in some games like tarkov.

[@MiciiMicii]

does this video works for kingstone hyper beast 6000mhz? At the voltage i see you set 1.4 1.4 and 1.8 on the package says it runs at 1.35v

[@kapitumbulu]

If You set CPPC to CACHE the cpu will always prefer 3DV Cache, which is good for gaming but worst for other task (productivity) where the frequency is more important; ok that you only do gaming, but that is almost olalways not true (every user do other things, occasionally) but, most of all, with cache and frequency you will basically always use only HALF of your CPU. the correct setting is DRIVER, then be sure to have windows and AMD drivers set according to AMD indication and the CPU will use the correct CCD, according to what you’re doing… JZtwoCents did a very clear video, recentely, about this……

[@pumpkinfury]

I'm running the Driver settings now, and it's working like a charm! Games pull the 3d cache CCD, and everything else is on the high boost non-3d CCD side.

[@kapitumbulu]

@@pumpkinfury😎👍🏼

[@killerbsting1621]

Exactly never disable the ccd1

[@johnpaulbacon8320]

Nice how-to video.

[@patrickfuchs7552]

Hi Beefy, in my case it looks like the GPU doesn‘t run iver 4.2Ghz. May you have an idea which settings I did wrong in bios? Thank you

[@Beefy-Tech]

If you aren't boosting at all hours most likely have not updated your bios and your chipset drivers. Not only, but once you do the update you'll Want precision boost on advanced and core performance boost on.

[@patrickfuchs7552]

thanks,you are so fast and helpful👍👍👍

[@danielkelsosmith]

Can I set it to prefer frequency and then use project lasso to move only games to v-cache ccd?

[@mikew1080]

Are you on Windows 10 or 11? On 11, as long as everything is updated(chipset drivers, bios, etc.) It automatically puts your games on CCD0. I've never had to change anything from older titles to the newer ones. If you do, just mark it as a game in gamebar, and then it will run off CCD0. You don't need to go to extremes like you did when the cpu dropped. Most of it has been sorted. I'm getting the same performance as this guy without undervolting or changing ram timings.

[@tinayang3902]

I'm very new to PC Built. Is the UCLKDIV1 = Gear 1 / Gear 2 settings?

[@oldschool_bamagatrader9960]

thanks dude for this info its really so helpful .. i have ryzen9 7900x3d & RX7900xtx any suggestions or i can use same setting ? i use MOBO asus rog strix B650E-E

[@thedancingfridge]

This video is awesome.

[@DigitalPlacebo]

Should have just bought a 7800X3D if you're going to limit your processor

[@mudayshankar1708]

Doesn’t it increase latency if game runs os ccd0 and all other process run on ccd1? Or its better to disable ccd1 in bios?

[@aditesto7918]

You the best Brother ! Greetings from Berlin

[@natharajguendaraju1934]

will stock performance 7950x3d+7900xtx+32gb ddr5 6400MHZ gives similar performance as this?

[@Beefy-Tech]

This is old footage and not comparable to today's performance sadly. The 7900xtx wouldn't make a difference as in the MW2 Bench, 4090's and 7900xtx's are pretty much on par aslong as the 4090 is on a good driver. Meaning your performance will be slightly lower unless you tune the 7950x3d and the 32gb of ddr5.

[@razoo911]

you can overclock infinity fabric to reach 6400mhz

[@Beefy-Tech]

Yes, I have not done it yet as I dont have a ram kit capable of doing super good timings at 6400mhz. I will toy around with it at 6200mhz soon though.

[@FlexyLexGo]

Hi Beefy, thanks for the many informative vids! Can you tell us what the benchmark results are in 1080p? Thanks!

[@Beefy-Tech]

I haven't tested 1080p due to cpu being the bottleneck at 1440p meaning at 1080p gains would be really small over 1440p. I can check since it's easy to switch to 1080p and compare.

[@FlexyLexGo]

Thanks for the quick response and your time! Glad I found your channel 👍

[@officialyashvirgaming]

@@Beefy-Tech hello sir Are you able to put 3x bottom fans in that Coolermaster h500 mesh and 2 or 3x side fans cuz i cannot , i only have a 360mm AIO deepcool LT720 + 1x 120mm REAR fans + 2x 200mm front fans I wanted to remove both PSU box + HDD cadddy box and try to put bottom or side fans, The side fans i think we cannot as there is no brackets to screw those fans

[@Spydur__]

How are you hitting these high fps numbers. my setup is a Crosshair x670e extreme, 7950x3d, geforce rtx 3090ti 2x32 g.skill 6000m/ts ?? I used all your numbers within my bios and am only average 145fps in mw2 resurgence

[@Beefy-Tech]

You'd want to also set your render worker count to 7, and preferably use my configuration file for cod. I also run process lasso now to force only 3D cache ccd for games. Ull find my config file in my latest videos.

[@Spydur__]

@@Beefy-Tech is the render worker count within bios?

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@Spydur__ Its within the warzone 2 config file. Its the amount of threads that your CPU will use for warzone 2

[@ignacioutges8198]

Hello dude! I testing yesterday reaching 170 on almazrah... 7950x3d 7900 xtx 32gb gskill 6000 cl 30... I do several tests stable but low fps... I have some questions, 64gb should be giving me better performance? Windows 11 is the problem? In the last week the game has a lot of issues regarding fps... Is the reason of my 170 fps? Thanks in advance

[@Beefy-Tech]

Hey, I do recommend re-instaling windows, and changing a couple things differently from this video as it been a while since it was posted and things are a bit different. Reset bios, and re-apply all your settings. Set your Game Mode On within windows, Apply Balanced power plan And this last one is insanely important...if you have the steam version of cod set the voice chat to party only...this alone can be 40+ fps.

[@michaelduernecker684]

WOW Thank you very much. I Wonder it works one to one perfect. Could i give fixe Voltage on CPU? and how much?

[@thaddeus2447]

I don't hope to get an answer but still: Whats the best ram for 7950x3D currently ? will it work with 6400mhz memory kit ?

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@thaddeus2447 any 32gb+ 6000mhz kit will work fam

[@AegisDynamics]

I am shocked in 1440p the 4090 is bottlenecking the CPU. In the g9 resolution which is like 5120*1440p is the GPU still gonna bottleneck the CPU or the game will be more GPU bound?

[@Beefy-Tech]

Its in the benchmark within Modern Warfare 2 that the 4090 is the bottleneckm, within warzone 2 battle royale the 7950X3D with my latest Undervolt and setup takes 4090 to 85-95% usage, so its theoretically the CPU thats still the bottleneck in Battle Royale, but by extremely little.

[@tbaforlife]

Been unable to get expo to work on my system with 4x16gb sticks, will give this a try when i get home😅

[@christiancastell1026]

Wait so what should the infinity fabric be? 2000? Or ?

[@iNasteable]

well i just received my 7950x3d and asus rog strix x670e-e. I haven't tested yet, but i set EXPO to II, PBO Enabled with Max boost +200, and set negative undervolt to all cores -20 and it crashes, at the moment all i can do, when i set them all core -15 is max for my unit. What do you think, should i return and buy new one, or just fck it? im 70% gaming 30% productivity.

[@Pieddrik]

Set your loadline calibration to a higher Level.

[@bombazeer6163]

i got lucky, -25 all cores getting locked 5250 while gaming the wholeday. will continue testing if its stable.

[@Beefy-Tech]

That's really good! After full testing I've only been able to sustain -20 on 6 cores and -25 on 2 cores without any restarts or crashes. Clearly the cpu lottery is still a thing🤣

[@bombazeer6163]

@@Beefy-Tech yeah, seems that -25 is stable so far. played warzone for a full day no chrashes or weird things happening.

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@bombazeer6163 ive had bad luck. played with -20 for a while and Ive had a restart towards the end of an intense endgame in warzone 2... ill have to see if its ram or undervolt causing issues but it seems i may indeed have a pretty mediocre bin, so u defo got a good one!

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@bombazeer6163 nevermind, one of my ram settings was too aggressive I believe... tuning it down seems to have fixed occasional crash.

[@bombazeer6163]

@@Beefy-Tech so, i got bad news. running cinebench stress test for 2 hours made my pc restart and showed error code 00. reseted the cmos and will try again with curve opt -20

[@AlviRieZel]

is it just me or it's intended? since i kinda have similar build, and kinda new on Ryzen Platform is it normal when you're fine tuning the curve optimizer, your system would instant restart (not BSOD, even already change the setting of BSOD to not auto restart) and got kernel 41 error in event viewer? like when i'm trying -30 all core, it will restart frequently and -30 CCD0 and -25 CCD1, is rarely restart

[@Beefy-Tech]

I have never actually had a crash that reset my bios, so def intended. Whenever something is unstable, computer will simply restart lol. I run -30 first 4 cores and -10 last 4 on 3D v cache ccd and it works perfectly 0 crashes, but at -30 on 4 and -15 on last 4 cores itll cause the restarts. So yes, if you get random restarts, its a sign of instability.

[@AlviRieZel]

@Beefy Tech ah i see, thanks for confirming it, now im trying -20 and -25 all core (coz im lazy to check one by one), sofar its good no crash atm, tried disabled PBO earlier, and crash as well but this must be causing by secure boot is disabled and virtualization security is on, also do you mind write the timing stuff in description? For easier to copy, im using gskill cl30 with expo atm, thanks

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@AlviRieZel you'll have to test it best on what you play. I only care about optimization on warzone 2, so I set my thread count within config file to 7, and then undervolted 8 threads as much as I could to specifically benefit warzones use case. As for the timings, I think ull find it easier to copy if you go on your phone and screenshot the video, it'll have a similar effect xD

[@michaelduernecker684]

Thank you so much for this important Infos. Now with RTX 4090 , 7950x3d combi - corsair DDR 5 6000 CL 30 AMD Expo advanced, it works amazing smooth in all Sims. RAM is maybe very important too. Curve Optimizer -25 per Core without SMT and Limit to Motherboard in Bios.And all your Settings too. +200 overwrite. The best Solutiion at the Moment for VR Flightsimmer. WOW WOW WOW. Intel by by for a wile 🙂

[@psour33]

I'm not confident with this BIOS cppc cache/driver thing. Driver should be the choice because when Windows is properly setup (balanced power mode) the cache driver and Game bar use the 3D vcache die. If you don't want to use frequency core, better go for a 7800X3D.

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@psour33 yeah, it's supposed to do that, but I've had an extremely inconsistent experience with it. The intended method that's supposed to choose the correct ccd and park the other ccd just tends to break after a while even if set up perfectly correct. Over the course of 6 months mine failed every month on several games, and every time I had to reset it and re-set it up. Basically, windows updates would break it, and changing any game bar settings or bios settings could also break it. Basically, it just stops working if you fiddle with your settings or do updates lol. So yes, you can use it, but if you suddenly feel stutters in games you had no stutters in, that means the core parking isn't working well.

[@dogu_vn7851]

Hey i build and did everything you did everything works finde bur how can i reset all settings at once if anything goes wrong?

[@Beefy-Tech]

For the bios settings, you cab click Optimized defaults option below where you save your bios settings and it'll revert your bios settings to default👍

[@quicogil4565]

I am not having any luck with Curve Optimizer. Even something significantly higher than your settings is unstable. 1 hour of ycruncher was perfect but then it crashed in Premiere and basic windows stuff. Shame, cause I had a -30 all core 24/7 stable 7600X before this. I have a Noctua D15 and I am thermally limited. The chip hits 89C really fast regardless of settings. Stock PBO +100mhz is running faster than negative curve optimizer. Latest result 34.528 in Cinebench R23.

[@Beefy-Tech]

I noticed 7950x3d's don't really do much more then negative 20 on just ccd 0. Also if you test stability with benchmarks, do also test the games you play. Cinebench score being higher thanks to ccd 1 being boosted won't result in better gaming results for example.

[@DhalonTech]

Which is best bios right now?

[@xPlasmaz]

what were your before/after temperatures please from undervolt? I am worried that 360mm AIO and a Fractal Meshify 2 won't be sufficient to allow a 7800x3d to boost well.

[@Beefy-Tech]

To be honest, I did a full cooling solution upgrade. I think the UV was about 3-4C less ingame overall, but the boost frequency was at about 5.0ghz on the dot. I got Noctua NT-H2 thermal paste, and slapped 6 fans on my 360mm AIO (3 slim fans and 3 full fams), and I Removed my old fans entirely. Not only that, but I run the cpu at 60% fan speed at 55c, and 70% fan speed at 65c, so keep the Temps under 65. Now I see between 60-64 in wz2. The undervolt helps a lot, but the thermal solution will help just as much. Make sure you get a good thermal paste👍

[@xPlasmaz]

@@Beefy-Tech Are you running the CPU radiator as intake or exhaust? I will almost certainly be undervolting, it seems quite easy thse days. Probably go Arctic Mx6 thermal paste. The case I'm looking at won't support a push+pull config on the AIO so I might be stuck. I could choose a different case but the one I've seen looks to have quite good dust control which I need.

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@xPlasmaz i run it with push pull as intake, with a single 140mm fan as exhaust. You shouldn't have an issue running just 3 fans, I'd recommend running them as "Push" in the sense the they blow the air through from above the radiator as that'll result in slightly better performance then just pull. Downside is inside of case will look slightly worse. If you want to have fans visible on the inside though, I can understand, and it'd still run within 1-2 degrees celsius of the push config. MX6 is fine, and I think it even comes with a thermal paste spreader if I remember correctly👍

[@mikebarron8702]

Have you tried higher frequency on FPS games.. Apparently they prefer the Higher frequency?

[@Beefy-Tech]

Most 7950x's can't really do more then 6200mhz with tight timings, but some handle 6200 and even 6400mhz, it just takes a lot more work to stabilize. I tried 6200mhz and it was stable on my cpu, but had to loosen timings on my ram kit to where there was no difference in performance within warzone, so I'd need a Hynix A die kit to actually test this properly, until then I can't confirm or deny it for sure

[@GLOCKRIVERSTV]

Got a sweet update, finally got my 7950x3d in- couldnt expo at 6000, couldn’t boot past 5600 stable…With your guide im running at 6000, and much faster boot times. Gotta test stability now, so far benchmarks are all above average (crosshair extreme/7900xtx/7950x3d/32gbcl30.6000mhz gskill/hynx

[@Beefy-Tech]

That's great to hear! I wonder what the issue with the ram kit was,,but good it's working!

[@GLOCKRIVERSTV]

@@Beefy-Tech Honestly not sure or if just a rough go with silicon. Going to do some uv testing tonight. Also considering returning the 7900xtx for the 4090… but the sapphire card is gorgeous!

[@officialyashvirgaming]

@@Beefy-Tech can i skip the ram timings as my board already find the best for it

[@IgnacioUtges]

Hello can you put a new video like this one but with the things we need today? thanks!

[@Beefy-Tech]

I'm going to do an updated setup guide for this, but to be honest with you I'm not 100% sure of the time due to an insanely busy schedule these upcoming weeks.

[@CarnivoryHODL]

How do these ram timings compare to Buildzoid’s “easy” timings video?

[@Beefy-Tech]

Pretty much identical, I used the basic timings he gave to hardware unboxed and only messed around with TREFI.

[@KGPBDKNIGHT]

@Beefy-Tech hmm maybe I misunderstand something but how do you set the CCD0? I have folloewd your step by step in BIOS but think I maybe have overlooked something? but thanks for the upload very helpful

[@Beefy-Tech]

You need to go to advanced, AMD CBS, SMU Common options, and the CPPC Dynamic preffered cores. You will only see the cppc dynamic preffered cores option if you update both your chipset drivers and bios drivers to the latest versions.

[@officialyashvirgaming]

@@Beefy-Tech can you put bottom fans in that Coolermaster h500 mesh and side fans cuz i cannot , i only have a 360mm AIO deepcool LT720 + 1x 120mm REAR fans + 2x 200mm front fans I wanted to remove both PSU box + HDD cadddy box and try to put bottom or side fans, The side fans i think we cannot as there is no brackets to screw those fans DAMN we're screwed

[@milordas]

CPPC set to cache is wrong, as you set the pc on game mode, but for other jobs frequency is peferred, so it SHOULD be set to driver, as windows drivers decide wich one to use and when. And seems your integrated gpu is not disabled, another cpu worthless usage

[@JuZz97]

4090 50% 13700k 32

[@MustafaGT]

Have you been able to tweak or change anything since this video that changed anything for more performance?

[@Beefy-Tech]

I have yes. Significantly improved undervolt, and process lasso is now being used, undervolt improvement making most significant difference, of about 3 degrees celsius of less heat. So -30 first 4 cores, -10 core 5, -20 last 3 cores. Core 5 is my fastest Core but also needs more voltage to run stable, so I can't go higher then -10 on it, that way other cores can be undervolted more separately and maintain perfect stability.

[@MustafaGT]

@@Beefy-Tech ahhh nice. I’ll try these 😁

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@MustafaGT use Ryzen Master and see which is your best core. That core may need less of an undervolt so those other cores can be undervolted more.

[@skylernicholas5429]

Any ASUS guys have their curve optimizer numbers? I have an E670-E MOBO

[@Beefy-Tech]

It's more to do with the cpu than the motherboard here. Ull need to tailor the undervolt based on the games you play. I play warzone 2 mostly. And I have switched to running -30 on first 4 cores, and -10 on last 4 cores of 3d v cache ccd. Warzone 2 allows setting thread count, and I set mine to 7, meaning it only uses those fastest 3d v cache cores with -30 undervolt on them.

[@skylernicholas5429]

@@Beefy-Tech same I really only play COD/WZ

[@RedShadow166]

It doesn't work for me, I get a blue screen with an error

[@Beefy-Tech]

Something is most likely not set up right🤔 hard for me to identify what but I recommend you re install the newest chipset drivers, and then re-install your bios again. Also, not copy my undervolt number for number, start lower, and go upwards

[@neilweber1749]

Will these ram timings work on a 64gb kit? The expo timings are bad af. But not sure what i can push without breaking it. already had to reset cmos once.

[@Beefy-Tech]

They won't translate 1:1 to a 64GB kit unless you have an extremely good 64GB kit or just get lucky. I've had a guy tell me the timings worked on his 64GB kit, but my assumption is the guy had gotten lucky and picked up a Hynix A die kit as a lot of manufacturers are changing all their 6000mhz M die kits to Hynix A die, which is the die capable of 7000mhz + or CL28 and below...it's just a lottery on if yours is A die or M die, but if you are having trouble with timings, it's probably an M die kit. M die kits are fine with the timings when it's 32GB of ram, that can be seen by the fact I have a 32GB M die kit myself...but I assume 64GB of M die is too much for memory's controller or Motherboard to sustain.

[@officialyashvirgaming]

@@Beefy-Tech Hey pls reply to me too Greetings, are you able to put 3x bottom fans in that Coolermaster h500 mesh and 2 or 3x side fans cuz i cannot , i only have a 360mm AIO deepcool LT720 + 1x 120mm REAR fans + 2x 200mm front fans I wanted to remove both PSU box + HDD cadddy box and try to put bottom or side fans, The side fans i think we cannot as there is no brackets to screw those fans How are you doing with that big enormous coolermaster 500 mesh case of yours ? Did you swap case already or still using it

[@officialyashvirgaming]

@@Beefy-Tech Cuz im thinking of getting rid of it soon and getting Hyte Y60 or Y70

[@ceuser3555]

My gskill ram can’t take it.

[@Boba_Gaming]

What core count you set in MW2 config profile?

[@Beefy-Tech]

I go for 6,7,8 depending on the cpu's I'm using. For 7950x3d I use 7 though👍

[@Swistak65]

What about: "Windows Game Mode"?

[@Beefy-Tech]

I didn't touch it for these settings as it doesn't affect 95% of situations with my setup. If you have any issues, just use process lasso to force 3d cache ccd cores.

[@turbokiller]

Merci de guide :D pupici din cluj

[@Beefy-Tech]

🤝cu placere☃️

[@C4RP3_N0CT3M]

Does using an XMP profile not cause any performance hit when compared to EXPO for the 7000 series (specifically X3D)? I was under the impression that it did. Edit: Also, can you do a video that covers timings for your 6400 kit on EXPO instead of XMP?

[@Beefy-Tech]

Hey, XMP and EXPO are just pre made timings and voltages. If you manually tune everything as I have it will not make a difference which kit you get. I run my 6400mhz kit at 6000mhz with 1.4 volts cl 30 38 38 30 68 48 + rest if subtimings with no tertiary timings done. Essentially buildzoids timings with slight adjustments made for my pc specifically. I will be doing a video reviewing my experience with the 7950x3d after 2+ months spent overclocking and optimizing it. Found dozens of quirks with this cpu thar affect its performance. IE: windows 11 is worse for 7000x3d cpu's and the chipset drivers can hurt performance in some instances. Will get into it within the video.

[@YashvirGaming]

@@Beefy-Tech Hi, i have AIR cooler fuma 3 sythe, whats best for me to Undervolt i kinda got lost here at 7:19 undervolting so do i set all of them to negative 20 or only the first 1-8 to -20(Negative) & the rest to Positive? also my ram kit is only 6000mhz

[@mikebarron8702]

With the current issues are you still using these settings?

[@Beefy-Tech]

Pretty much...just improved my undervolt and timings slightly. Now at a -30MV on 7 cores, and -10MV on 1 core (the best core). Timings I had to set TREFI to 38000 (so looser) but I've now adjusted Terchiery timings too (the timings below the ones I showed which were left on auto this video).

[@MustafaGT]

Question, I’m using your RAM timings on my Gskill Trident Neo 6000 CL30 which is 30-38-38-96. In your timings, you are using 30-38-38-30 which I’m currently using and have not had any crashes or issues. I tried to use 96 and found no difference in performance. But should I keep it at 96 since it’s the stock number? I believe buildzoid stated to leave these figures same as what they came as but now seeing that using 30 doesn’t hurt it, I’m kinda stuck and what to use. Thanks so much for the quick replies

[@Beefy-Tech]

The primary timings make a very small difference in performance, but if you are stable at a lower individual timing, use it. The point of tight timings is so they all separately add up to less latency. The lower they all are together the less overall latency there is.

[@MustafaGT]

@@Beefy-Tech Thank you!

[@officialyashvirgaming]

@@Beefy-Tech hello sir Are you able to put 3x bottom fans in that Coolermaster h500 mesh and 2 or 3x side fans cuz i cannot , i only have a 360mm AIO deepcool LT720 + 1x 120mm REAR fans + 2x 200mm front fans I wanted to remove both PSU box + HDD cadddy box and try to put bottom or side fans, The side fans i think we cannot as there is no brackets to screw those fans

[@AdamRabczuk]

You should set CPPC to auto or driver, not cache, and make sure core parking works correctly.

[@christiancastell1026]

Why not cache?

[@chrisibrandstetter]

because with cach are be all tasks preferd to get the 3d cores, all background tasks. That is not the way. With driver windows use 3d cores for games and background tasks for non 3d. Also more Cpu power for 3d cach cores for games

[@Shadowboiy]

i kinda have a problem my gpu (a rx 6900 xt) is arriving before my other components and i was wondering weather I could put it in my old rig my old pc, it has a 3700x and a 650w psu probably a bad idea as the minimum requirement of a 6900xt is a 850w psu

[@Beefy-Tech]

It'll work but if u push the GPU too hard it might crash the computer when that happens. Just depends if u push the gpu or not.

[@Shadowboiy]

@@Beefy-Tech so i should be fine if i don't draw too much power to the gpu got it

[@Shadowboiy]

@@Beefy-Tech is there any chance of anything getting damaged?

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@Shadowboiy extremely unlikely, but my recommendation is just wait for the rest of the parts anyways..ull get a huge FPS boost with all new parts, while if you put 6900xt in now u won't see any gains most likely! It'll be a much nicer feeling to just see huge fps increase🤣

[@Shadowboiy]

@@Beefy-Tech definitely 🤣

[@skrajina8037]

Would you say this is worth $190 more over 7950x or 13900k if you are going to do 24/7 rendering?

[@Beefy-Tech]

13900k might be more worth it if you render. The extra E cores do actually equate to better rendering performance. Only thing to keep in mind is that 4 dimm motherboards don't really work with 7200mhz+ ram, so ull either need to get a fancy 2 Dimm slot motherboard like the Asus Rog Maximus Apex, or be okay with ddr5 sub 7200mhz. 👍

[@skrajina8037]

@@Beefy-Tech thansk for answer...the issue with this is that the temps and power consumption will be crazy on 13900k....I was thinking of going 125W for 13900k eco mode, but that is equivalent to 65w 7950x, so I am not sure what to get man. I just want something which is not hot and doesnt take too much power but still has very good rendering power. Ill be doing rendering in ffmpeg not premiere pro

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@skrajina8037 I mean pretty much all big boi 16-24 core options are pretty hot without ECO mode.the 7950x3d will be the best at gaming if set up right, but will be the slowest rendering cpu between the 7950x, 7950x3d, and 13900k. Whichever cpu you get, ull need a 360mm aio for sure, even if you plan to use Eco mode, it better to be safe then sorry. 13900k will be better at any gaming tasks then a 7950x, but will lose to the 7950x3d. 13900k does also use most power by a lot, so if you want a cpu with less power draw, the 7950x3d is the play, but it still gets hot even with low power draw, and it's the slowest at rendering on the 3.

[@Jose-vb7py]

Thanks for the video but a doubt. If I have an ASRock X670E Taichi, in Advanced PBO Limits 7:09, wouldn't it be better to put it on Motherboard, because of the VRMs so good that my Taichi has?, best regards

[@IxNAPxI]

I can't manage to set my timings manually. No matter what I do on Asus bios AI tweaker memory timing don't stick at restart and keep running the stock values

[@brandonhoud42]

Hey brother, do you have Accelerated gpu enable in windows? How about gamemode or game bar? I'm copied your setting with 6000 cl30 ram and still not hitting 280 in warzone on the highway

[@Beefy-Tech]

So I also use a config file you might want to try. It's in my config file wz2 video, I just updated it for season 2.

[@davidm71]

Is it a must to set VDDIO to same volt as VDD VDDQ? My ram is rated at 1.4 volts. Does that mean all three have to be at 1.4v ?

[@nathanwhite617]

How do you determine that that you can only get -25 on two cores? Seems like that would take quite a few tests

[@Beefy-Tech]

It would. I tested until last week and my final setup is -30 on first 4 cores and -10 on last 4 cores of 3D v cache ccd. Its essentially trial and error until you get something stable. I got the idea to do -30 on first 4 cores as that means 8 threads will be faster then the other 8 threads, and if you set your render worker count in Mw2 to 7 or 8 threads, itll always use those fastest cores. Now i know its at its max, because -30 on first 4 and -10 on last 4 is perfectly stable, but if I change any of the last 4 cores to -15 instead of -10, I get a restart within 30 minutes.

[@YashvirGaming]

@@Beefy-Tech Can we undervolt this microATX board Asrock M.2/HDV or do i need X670E boards only to overclock the CPU

[@hepy_strongman]

@Beefy-Tech i can see you have 192 MB L3 cache, how is that possible? Ryzen 9 7950x3d used to have 128 MB L3 cache (at 5:34)

[@iNZANiTi.]

Excuse my ignorance but will this make my processor go beyond the base 4.2ghz? And if so, will the new value appear in the Bios or will 4.2ghz continue to appear? Thank you

[@Snakey066]

I followed every steps on this video but for some reason no matter what value i put on my curve optimizer they wont apply for some reason on my asus rog strix x670e-e on latest bios.. tried the other bios too.. same thing. I hope someone can help me out here. Thanks

[@Beefy-Tech]

Are you on the latest Chipset drivers and the latest bios? It could be tied to the bios version. You need to make sure you select negative, and then just put 20 as an example.

[@Snakey066]

Yes i am on the latest chipset and bios.. but regardless how much i put on negative curve between 0 or -30 its its performs the same.. so im assuming the CO is not working..

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@Snakey066 download Ryzen Master, if your CO is applying you will be able to see the undervolt in Ryzen Master. Also make sure your render worker count is set to 7-8, ideally 7. If you see no performance difference even with ryzen master showing the undervolt applied, reset bios, re-apply settings, and make a significantly more aggressive fan curve for your cpu.

[@Snakey066]

Took me awhile to figure out how the 7950x3d works. Thanks for helping me.. and keep up the good work on your videos.. cheers..

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@Snakey066 gotchu fam! It's not particularly straightforward to set up, but a great cpu once setup🙌

[@Emp3ror]

Cant understand your temps.. what was your stock temps while gaming? I have a ryujin ii 240 aio but my tems is about 80c when gaming, if i set cores to -15 the temps go way up and tickle Tclt max. Is my X3D broken or what? AIO is sat correct, good thermalpaste with good coverage. Looks like my CPU does like the 7950x just want to go to 89 and stay there

[@Beefy-Tech]

Its a bug, I had to re-install bios and chipset drivers to fix that exact issue you had. Itd happen at random to me too where itd lock TJ max while not doing anything at all after i ran a MW2 benchmark, I havent had it happen in 2 weeks since I last re-installed bios/chipset drivers.

[@Emp3ror]

@@Beefy-Tech Hmm, i see more ppl having the same temps as me though when benchmarking apex at 1440P. its just when im playing, idle theyre like 45-55c. If this is a bug, AMD have to come out with a driver to fix it then?

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@Emp3ror I have a very overkill cooling solution and as a result temps are lowered by quiet a bit. My idle temps are around 38-42 within OCCT. The temps are unfortunately normal unless you are at 60+c at idle, and most people with anything other then a 360mm aio and great thermal paste will have issues maximizing performance of the cpu. Even with 6 high end fans on the 360mm AIO, and the best thermal paste I could find (Noctua NT-H2) I still can't lock 5.25ghz in CPU bound scenerio's such as AL Mazrah In Warzone 2 due to requiring about 5 degrees less of heat to do that lol. Best solution if you have high temps is make sure your TJ max is 89c, and your fan curve on cpu cooler is aggressive. Given you already bought your cooler and thermal paste, try make the most of what you have. They probably will release a bios/chipset update soon because Derbauer recently damaged his 7950x3d with voltage, causing some concerns, meaning AMD may actually try do something about it indirectly. We will see. As an example, I run 60% fan speed at 50 degrees, 70% at 60 degrees. This cpu def takes a bit too cool despite only using like 90 watts in gaming xD

[@byriel7630]

Can I do this with the following kit: F5-7200J3445G16GX2-TZ5RK (G.Skill 7200 c34) on a 7800x3d? All the best

[@murilocantharino2034]

Thanks for your video. Realy nice. I have a 7950x3d with a 6900xt. Im getting in season 5 500 on AVG, 410 on 5% and 375 on 1% Low. It seens perfect. But i think that my GPU maybe is a bottleneck. In real game on battle royale, my average is 240. But my lows is about 200. Is that correct ? Maybe is that a way to get always 240 FPS + without dips ? Thanks in advance.

[@ripleyhrgiger4669]

I do game but I do a lot of CPU intensive business related tasks as well. I'm guessing I don't want to touch my CPU if that's the case?

[@AjRatman]

Hi. what values ​​​​when manually overclocking the memory can increase the processor voltage? I don't want it to burn.)

[@Beefy-Tech]

None other than the SOC voltage itself. If you enable an EXPO profile it may set SOC higher automatically. If you have the latest BIOS version ud be safe to change anything without worries

[@AjRatman]

@@Beefy-Tech yes i update bios to last version . I have 2x32 samsung memori kits with 4800 . i can overclock it to 6000 or 6400 ?

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@AjRatman you should be fine fam, I don't know if you can OC to 6200 or 6400 but that's fine because it won't make a massive difference on X3D

[@AjRatman]

@@Beefy-Tech ok. thank you . wish me a luck !)

[@AjRatman]

@@Beefy-Tech hi again. I can't overclck memory even to 5800. Can you help me? Do you have fb?

[@KetogenicGuitars]

Just because the Asrock support pages are so very good I'll go for Asrock. Not really, but it is light years ahead of competition.

[@KH-cs7sj]

My CPU is 7950x3d and mb is gigabyte b650 gaming x ax, mem is 4*16 6400. On F8 bios, I was able to hit the same settings as yours. However, on F9 bios, I was only able to hit 5600.

[@ITSMTAKANJITOOU]

I have a b650 tomahawk board click bios 5 I see fclk frequency and in amd cbs I see infinity fabric it’s confusing

[@ZSteven]

This seems more gaming focused. Why not undervolt ccd1 ? I am getting better overall performance with driver setting for cppc. This seems quite high undervolt. I never got that low :(. it works fine under load, but not at idle. (I have same MB same CPU, similar pcu, memory and cpu cooler (1,2kw TT pcu, 6ghz gskill memories cl30, 360mm eisbaer pro). Do you have some cinebench r23 scores or any other benchmark scores ?

[@kakarottosupersayin8]

pin, dont do the cache method, itll just increase cpu 5 to 7 degrees by just watching twitch lol

[@CarnivoryHODL]

Can’t wait for the 7800x3d to tune similarly

[@Beefy-Tech]

It's a monster of a cpu, ull really enjoy it!

[@shopzGG]

Does cppc prefer cache also work on 7800x3d or should I use frequency?

[@blackeagle041]

You only have a single CCD on the 7800X3D. All of which has 3d vcache.

[@chrisbullock6477]

I did everything but mess with my G.Skill Rip Jaw S5 6400mhz memory. And could once I restarted I took every change I made and I could tell immediately that it was alot more responsive and loaded web pages much faster just by making those few tweaks. I did adjust my fan curves as well and noticed I could get lower fan speed while staying just as cool. I'm using a CoolerMaster NR200P MAX with the AIO and 7900XTX that's undervolted, so I needed this further optimization to help with temps even more

[@F1monster1]

Thanks for the video

[@UltraCon79]

Please update us on these timings with the new SOC limit of 1.3v

[@Beefy-Tech]

If you look at my Bios settings. My SOC was at 1.25V within this video, and the settings in this video even work at 1.2v. The Dram voltage being at 1.4v is separate from SOC voltage, and that one remains 1.4v.

[@UltraCon79]

@@Beefy-Tech yesterday I watched a board say 1.2 soc and the voltage meter said 1.41

[@Beefy-Tech]

@@UltraCon79 chances are that board is broken to overshoot by so much. Normal overshoot would be 0.1-0.3 over bios voltage, and functional motherboards would all perform within those parameters.

[@xVertigo101]

Master don't work for me, program causes a black screen until bios is reset. I don't have expo just docip

[@MajoraEXP]

Wanted to thank you for this video. My pc has never been this stable and high performance until i used these settings. Thanks so much!

[@xPlasmaz]

I am looking at building a PC with the 7800x3d and quite concerned about CPU temps as I know it can affect boost clocks. So with an undervolt and a 360mm AIO you're reaching about 70 in Warzone 2. What about a full on stress test what temperatures does that reach?

[@Beefy-Tech]

I upgraded cooling solutions since, so it wouldnt be representative of this test anymore, now I run 63c instead of what used to be 68c. but the upgrade consisted of changing my main 3 fans to better ones, buying an extra 3 slim fans to make it a push pull configuration (6 fans on a 360mm radiator) and changing thermal paste to Noctua NT H2. That isnt realistic as a cooling solution for most people though, but the hottest I ever saw it get in a game was 85C with my previous basic 360mm aio with 3 fans set to pull configuration (this is within a different cpu bottlenecked game, not warzone)

[@rindrasi]

@@Beefy-Tech What's your boost clock now? Are you hitting 5.25 ghz?

[@KenzieNakamura]

That sounds low most intel have 86-95 degrees on that game.. 😢

[@bin20]

i realy like what you doing here , i will be getting soon 5800xrd cpu will do the same undervolt

[@Beefy-Tech]

Good idea! The 5800x3d behaves the same in that an undervolt improves temperatures, and as a result it also improves sustained frequency, so totally worth doing.

[@bin20]

@Beefy Tech thanks alot buddy

[@officialyashvirgaming]

@@Beefy-Tech hello sir Are you able to put 3x bottom fans in that Coolermaster h500 mesh and 2 or 3x side fans cuz i cannot , i only have a 360mm AIO deepcool LT720 + 1x 120mm REAR fans + 2x 200mm front fans I wanted to remove both PSU box + HDD cadddy box and try to put bottom or side fans, The side fans i think we cannot as there is no brackets to screw those fans

[@jonnybullock3277]

Can I copy these timings and voltages with a 7800x3d?

[@Beefy-Tech]

Yes fam.

[@AntonioValencia-d1t]

I have 4080 super and asrock x670e taichi carrara and ryzen 9 79503d You think this will work for me ?

[@QuaK3RRR]

best x3d guide! :D

[@paulglasermonleon1677]

Thank you 🙏🏼

[@babadominator2730]

I had on cpu prefer cache in auto mod but idk why my performance was low in almost all game i put not prefer cache should be better? I have ryzen 9 7950x3d

[@evolutionTR]

Can you share your process lasso settings?

[@Beefy-Tech]

I am honestly still experimenting with it. I momentarily just run all my background tasks on second ccd to decrease background usage on cpu.

[@Beefy-Tech]

I will make a video on process lasso soon

[@JuanGameplays4k]

Great video bro!

[@Adel-sj4ue]

I guess u should do this vedio once more after the new bios updates And new ram speeds

[@silfrido1768]

Can I set cppc to cache on my 7800x3d or just leave it as is ?

[@r3l3v3n]

Thanks a lot ! You saving my Live!