7mm PRC vs 300 PRC: Which one is the best?

In this video I compare the 7mm PRC to the 300 PRC. Which one is a better hunting cartridge and which one is best at long distance target shooting? Let's find out!

[@poorthingproductions]

I own both and have to agree with you. Of the two, I prefer the 7 PRC. As always, really enjoy your content.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Thanks for commenting and watching!

[@ReloadingQuest]

I like the 300 prc with a 250gr a for long range shooting. Other wise I am going with the 7mm prc

[@dankcincy]

Thanks for including us target shooters. I truly believe its a "30cal vs 7mm" marketing strategy for Hornady. They have captured both markets with these cartridges. Imo...the 7 makes sense for hunting as well as lr target shooting due to the lesser recoil allowing for a lighter rifle. But Im not a hunter so take that with a grain of salt I reckon.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Thanks for commenting!

[@dankcincy]

​@@ReloadingWeatherby Have you gotten your 7 yet? I won't be getting mine back till February or March. I'm excited to get some rounds through it.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

@@dankcincy Not yet... trying to be patient. Earliest... maybe late January

[@garrytalley8009]

Hornady does know how to market and sell. The 6.5mm has a large following as well. If you noticed, they marketed these calibers most popular for long range shooting. They put them in order to popularity in caliber as well. After successful launches they added the next one. I would just leave it where it is and let the wildcatters do anything more with them. You don't want to be like Winchester did with the short magnums over doing it some of them won't make it in the long run too many too soon.

[@eiszeit9795]

curious to the see the result.

[@Snailz5]

The three PRC cartridges can all be loaded to similar ballistics which means it comes down to recoil vs terminal performance. I’d say this has always been where the 7mm bullets have shined; enough mass and cross sectional area for good terminal performance on all North American game while keeping recoil to a manageable level without a suppressor or brake. It’s the sweet spot.

[@steveelder5306]

sounds like you get it

[@Stewart7516]

I'd have to agree, the 300s are a bit stout for Lighter framed people and the 6.5s are a little light for the heavy game.. 7s are kind of a sweet spot, although I could argue the same for the 27s which I wish would get more attention from the mainstrem ammo companies.

[@Snailz5]

@@Stewart7516 I get it, but it's a redundant caliber to 7mm. .277 to .284 is the smallest jump between calibers among what's commonly used. I don't know that there is enough difference in the trajectory - weight- terminal perfomance balanace between the two to justify calling one better than the other. With that being the case, defer to the one that is already more widely used.

[@Stewart7516]

@Snailz5 I sort of agree except for the fact that the 6.8 western uses much less powder than the 7prc to achieve similar results.. it's alot cheaper to reload for in the long run.

[@EasternMountainHunters]

Awesome video and great comparisons of the two. I’d agree the 7mm is better ballistically but I like the bigger frontal diameter of the 300 PRC.👍

[@captainnitro4459]

7mm PRC isn't even close, the .300 PRC is (Almost)on par with a .338 Lapua

[@EasternMountainHunters]

@@captainnitro4459 the 7mm is flatter shooting and has less drop the 300 PRC takes over after 1700 yards but it’s still not a huge marginal advantage

[@garrytalley8009]

No doubt a larger bullet heavier in weight will kill easier in all situations with the same bullet construction. If I have a rifle with less velocity I definitely would prefer the larger bullet. Sometimes there is overkill like blowing a hole as big as your fist out the other side of an animal. The downside on the 300 vs the 7mm is recoil. With a muzzle brake not so much but it is still a factor. No doubt long range deadly the 300 wins hands down if you make the shot.

[@DS-gd1xw]

I have 300 PRCS"s love that cartridge. 30" & 28" barrels

[@jamessammann9183]

How is recoil.7prc vs 300 prc

[@johnvillalovos5082]

Good points in this comparison video. I find both of these PRCs interesting, but I’m not sure I will ever pull the trigger on getting either of them. But, as far as those wanting to get either the 7mm PRC or 300 PRC, I think the 7mm version will be more popular due to adequate ballistic performance, for most situations, and lower recoil. And perhaps a bit less cost as well and greater availability, which should only increase as time goes on.

[@eskimo_airgunner2314]

I think it is fun to watch all the younger generation fall in love with these new cartridges. It reminds me of the 90's when all the WSM and WSSM cartridges were coming out in every brand rifle. People got excited and would spend their days arguing, which was better. Hornady picked just the right time to start introducing new cartridges. Of course, the big drawback for handloaders is that to optimize these cartridges, you have to go buy newer modern powders. Yes, you can load them with older version powders but not to optimal performance. Also, who wants to load their new cartridges with old-fashioned bullets, no one, so you have to get boxes and boxes of new bullets. Do I think PRC is just marketing? Sure, I do, but that won't stop me from getting a 7mm PRC.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

I definitely lean old school

[@chipsterb4946]

Nailed it! “PRC” is all about marketing. New bullets, new cases, new powders, new rifles… new dies and mo’ money! I think the 7mm PRC is the best of the three and a really cool cartridge. I started planning a rifle build and then realized “oh sh!t it uses large rifle magnum primers *and I don’t have a stockpile of those*.” Don’t have new powders either. I do have regular large rifle primers and plenty of H-4895 and H-4831SC. Also CFE223 seems readily available. Hmmm… does 7mm-08 make more sense for that build after all? Yep

[@garrytalley8009]

You made a good point. I have bought 2 out of 3 of the new PRC's They are well thought out and designed well.

[@eskimo_airgunner2314]

@ReloadingWeatherby Yes, if the particular variant of the Weatherby Mark V was made in 7mm Weatherby, I'd probably go that route. I guess their custom shop could help in that arena. I really want one of their High Country models but not in 28 Nosler or 280 AI.

[@garrytalley8009]

Interesting outlook. I myself own too many guns if that is possible and one of them is a 7mm PRC. It looks like they are doing better than the 300 PRC that preceded it. I also have a 6.5 PRC that I would not have purchased if they had the 7mm PRC first. I am not sure that all people will have to get all new everything to reload though. It makes sense if you want to get most of the cartridge for what it is designed to do long range. But I being a hunter with the one I purchased am not necessarily going to follow the suit of the bullet it was designed to shoot seeing I do hunt less than 300 yards. These new cartridges are not hype they are better designed. The new powders as well with the copper reducer and being more temperature insensitive are also great improvements. I myself find myself buying them when I have a lot of good powder that will do the job on the shelf. It is a sport that costs money and why waste money on shooting sub-par combinations when you can get it right. I do use much of my older powder loading for my rifles of yesterday like my 300 Win Mag. I have a couple of kegs of the old WMR, Winchester Magnum Rifle powder that was discontinues years ago because there just were not enough magnums out there to sell it in volume. And the powder works well in my 7mm STW as well. Newer isn't always better, but so much of it is. PRC's at least the first three will be here a very long time. If one will be faltering it will most likely be the 300 PRC, you can see by the market and sales. Recoil has a lot to do with it. If someone has a good 300 Win Mag, they are not going to replace it with a 300 PRC unless money is not an obstacle. Many people will upgrade a 6.5mm or 7mm rifle for more punch. Have a good one great comment.

[@BadKarma.-]

Off topic but ever since I got my 7PRC Ive gotten the itch to get a 7SAUM

[@jk-kr8jt]

Good video RW. These new cartridges show me nothing over what I already have. Probably nothing wrong with the PRC line other than the lack of availability of ammo and choices of factor ammo. In a crowded pool a few cartridges will drown.

[@garrytalley8009]

Anything new takes a little bit of time. It wasn't that long ago the 6.However,

[@Longtrailside]

The old debate of the old cartridges spills over to the new cartridges...lol. The battle continues.... Personally i like them both, just like the the old magnums. They are both more than enough for anything in north America as long as its not charging you. Personally i like the 30 cals better for hunting. Ive seen what they both can do and 30 cal won me over. Which was suprising because i was always a 7 fan due to it being my favorite number from child hood. But visual damage changed that real quick, especialy when hunting solo in bear country.

[@user-eg8hb8xt3j]

When it comes to hunting ethical ranges either one does enough differently than a 7mag or 300 mag to replace them if someone already owns these rifles . Maybe if I was buying new I would go 7prc once the ammo is more wide spread . Until then the old 7 mag will kill elk and moose like it always has .

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

I agree

[@rkgs2782]

So, for a hunter like me who really doesn’t need another gun but wants one 😂 currently owning 7mm08, 3006, and 35 Whelen. Where would I go next? 7 mag vs 7PRC, 300 WM vs WSM vs PRC? I would like a nice magnum. Thoughts?

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

I'm biased.. I say 300 Weatherby. But any of the ones you named work great

[@rkgs2782]

@@ReloadingWeatherby thank you, I had a 300 weatherby years ago. Should have never sold it. Ammo got very expensive and I’m not a hand loader.

[@RockinRack]

​@@rkgs2782 it's still expensive. Which you should get depends on what you plan on using it for plus personal preference. Like is weight or recoil a deciding factor? You don't handload so my opinion is the 7 or 300 prc is a great choice. Cheap factory ammo that shoots 1/2 moa. There's an argument that there is far more ammo options for a 300wm but do you want to buy 12 boxes of ammo to find one or 2 that will even shoot sub moa? Sometimes less is more. If you dont roll your own and want an easy button that's what hornady is trying to do and in my experience they have done so successfully. 7prc will kill anything in north America. 300prc will also and maybe a little better with a larger surface area and more energy behind it. But you could argue that dead is dead and the 300 won't make anything more dead than the 7mm

[@mikemelina7395]

I see the PRC cartridges as an answer to questions only a very small segment of the gun world was asking. Neither the 7 or the 300 is even the "best" 7 or 300. The 6.5prc is matching the performance of a .264WinMag...a cartridge from 1959. All honors to the original 7 and 300 magnum cartridges.

[@dankcincy]

"Best" is very application specific and everyone has their own criteria for defining their application.

[@zebacake4683]

Not if you use the right powders for a 264 mag. The load data for it is also very under pressure, they did that because of the barrel burn drama back when it was released

[@drdes9609]

Nailed it.

[@RagnarWarteeth]

Just a tad better is still better. Factory ammo vs factory ammo the prc is better and the guns being build for the prc are better too.

[@ShaunZimmerman668]

​@@RagnarWarteeththey claim chambers are tighter and better but the 7mm rem mag that I have shot was a dime stacker! So if the other works then I guess it can be subjective idk

[@D.C7MM]

It would be nice if the 7prc factory ammo speed came close to what the box’s says I was getting 2950 with a 24 inch barrel my 7MM rem mag with federal factory ammo is getting 2945 out of a 25 inch barrel

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

2950 is pretty close. I've seen much worse

[@D.C7MM]

Yeah I think it will be better when a few more companies make some ammo hopefully

[@tommysmyth254]

I like the 300 Winchester magnum best

[@hopefulballistics]

Both are good. Best for Extreme Long Range Target Shooting and very large game… 300 PRC. Best at everything else…7 PRC. My pick? 7mm PRC

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Thanks for commenting!

[@anthonymurphy2540]

At 1000 yard it seems that the 7 prc Is more consistent more accurate.

[@user-kv8zt8rh2l]

I think the biggest reason these new cartridges are so popular is the allure to hunters that they can make that 100 yard farther shot. When everything is advertised as a longer range cartridge, people see that and think, man I need that, next time I see that deer at 300 yards I’m going to get him. That and almost every hunter is looking for a good excuse to tell the wife they need a new gun

[@Andrew-jm4tp]

Is Hornaday leaving Superformance out of their load book because they don't want handloaders to play with it because they want to use it as their secret sauce in factory ammo?

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

I don't think so... it's there for the 6.5 Creed and a lot of other cartridges

[@jdxxx92]

Are many PRS and F-Class competitors using the PRCs? I googled most popular cartridges for these competitions and most are 6 mm. The only prc i saw was a 7mm-6.5 prc wildcat. That was a 2023 article. If they're so grest at long range why arent they being used more? Or, am i missing the plot some how?

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

PRC cartridges are marketed to the casual long range shooter and hunter. No serious competitive target shooter is going to use a 7mm PRC or 300 PRC

[@Marcus-jg4jb]

I don't know enough about F class but PRS shooters are usually shooting much smaller stuff aren't they? I think 6mms were the hotness in that game right now.

[@RockinRack]

Prs is not long range and without a spotter they prefer low recoil over long range energy on target. They simply need to make a hit anywhere on a steel target and 6mm and 6.5mm are very capable of doing so with minimal recoil. When you get into elr competition people are using 416 barrett and mostly wildcats that make the 7prc look tiny

[@PhilHewkin]

Can you tell me, if a rifle chambered in 308 Norma Magnum can be reamed to 300 prc? If it is larger in length + diameter, it should be do able. WHY= brass availability . could be a practical modern solution.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

I think it's possible... but I would talk to a gunsmith. It's cool you have a 308 Norma

[@PhilHewkin]

not yet. found a PARKER HALE jn mint condition. if the reamer will do, it may happen. waiting to seewhat gunsmith says. I wonder if the guys at HORNADY had this in mind when they designed the 300 prc.@@ReloadingWeatherby

[@Stewart7516]

The thing i have a hard time getting on board with is that the prc cartridges dont start having any sort of advantage until you are way beyond ethical hunting ranges and beyond most shooters skill levels. Most folks who are into long range shooting are not shooting factory ammo either so it really just comes down to bragging rights at the hunting camp. Kind of like having a 1000 cc hunting quad when a 400 or 600 cc is going to serve just as well for the application.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

I agree

[@BadKarma.-]

Ethical hunting distance is dependent on the game and the shooter. There is no putting a hard stop, some guys shouldn't shoot at an elk past 200yds and some could kill a Coues at 800+. The ethics of long range hunting comes down to the shooters skill, the equipment, and their judgment on if conditions are good enough for that kind of shot.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

@@BadKarma.- I generally agree with you that just because it's a 200 yard shot doesn't mean an average Joe is going to make a good shot. Everyone should be at the range practicing with their gun. Here is my question for you... Why? Why shoot at game out to 800 yards? Is it just for bragging rights at your hunt camp? Why can't you get closer? I shoot long range about once a month from 750-1200 yards. I still think it's not ethical to be taking game at that distance. For the sake of the animal get closer.

[@Stewart7516]

@@BadKarma.- just because you can doesn't mean you should.. how long does it take a bullet on average to fly 800 yards?

[@jameswilson5562]

Very informative video i will chronograph mine today see what i get all factory no hand loads. Hornady could have done way better if the 7 prc had about 5 to 10 grains more case compacity

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Please let me know!

[@jameswilson5562]

@@ReloadingWeatherby will do it the 175 eldx out of a ruger American go wild 24 in barrel

[@jameswilson5562]

@ReloadingWeatherby well it lacks alot for 3000 fps 2749 fps is all I could get some say well slow barrel. Possibly ok.i have a jp sauer 6.5 prc factory 143 eldx 24 in barrel shot a Lil less than that also shot nosler and norma ammo it did break 2800 fps. So what's the odds of to different rifle manufacturers same Barrel length be slow just my 2 cents 😆 🤣 😂

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

@@jameswilson5562 Thanks for sharing.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

@@jameswilson5562 I hope it's accurate for you...

[@Minowa50]

Get a 32"+ barrel on the 300 PRC and the 225 over 3000fps and its very close to the 7mm @3000 fps with a load more energy on target for killing stuff. Target shooting wise have different considerations.. accuracy and recoil over speed and energy. 7PRC runs exactly the same numbers as the long throated 7WSM i have and its a dream to shoot and super accurate, like mommy bears porridge... just right. Its the efficiency sweet spot of powder, efficiency, high BC bullets, velocity and recoil.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

I have a friend that get's 3000 FPS with the 225 ELD-M with LRT in a 26 inch barrel.

[@chipsterb4946]

There’s an aspect to these discussions that’s like the “9mm Luger is great now with the new bullets.” Yeah, but .38 Super is just as much even better. So is .357 Magnum. Put a 145 grain Hornady ELDX in your old .270 Winchester (1:10 twist is ok according to Hornady) and you’ve got a better cartridge. Put a Barnes TSX in almost any rifle and it becomes more effective than an old-school cup and core bullet.

[@ronlowney4700]

🤭 6.5 prc and 6.5 "Needsmore" Fans Are Having A Meltdown Over Your Conclusion, But Your Right! 🥳 The 6.5 Cartridges are Fine For Deer and Antelope, But Anything Bigger Than That You Had Better Be Using At Least a 270 Caliber For a "Humane" (Quick) Kill! 🤑

[@hunterjohnson5635]

.270 is the GOAT. Glad to see my fellow .270 enjoyer here.

[@ronlowney4700]

🤠 ABSOLUTELY 🥳

[@derekmcmurry]

@@hunterjohnson5635 Count me in on 270. I have 8.

[@draconian6692]

Having affordable factory ammo makes a chambering❤(less that 3$ a round)

[@terencemarkiewicz3908]

What happens when you put 190g in 300prc vs 7prc ?

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

190 doesn't have the highest b.c. it will drop worse than the 7mm PRC

[@joshclemons9975]

All PRC's have the same 375 Ruger parent case just cut to different lengths and calibers

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Yep

[@ronlowney4700]

🤴 While the 30 Caliber is King, It Is Already a Very Crowded Field (Between Established Cartridges and Wildcats, So the 300 prc Doesn't Bring Anything New)! 😯 However, the 7mm prc Does Basically the Same Thing As the Popular 7mm RM in a Better Designed Cartridge (Something That the 300 prc Doesn't Do in It's Caliber)! So, Give Me the 7mm prc! 🤑

[@aerialexcursions]

I could see the 7mm PRC ballistically becoming the best all-around hunting cartridge for North American Game

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

It's good... but overhyped. There are certainly better ones

[@RockinRack]

​@@ReloadingWeatherby like what?

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

@RockinRack 6.8 Western, 27 Nosler, 28 Nosler, 300 PRC, 300 WBY, 30 Nosler, 300 RUM and 30-378 Weatherby to name a few

[@slaydeday5677]

The PRC cartridges interest me more than any other magnums. The old magnums are great but belts and radiused shoulders make cartridges hard to reload for beginners and present accuracy issues based around their chamber designs. The PRCs are efficient and offer fantastic performance.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Have you reloaded before? I reload belted magnums all the time. The belt hasn't been an issue once.

[@slaydeday5677]

@@ReloadingWeatherby only a very limited amount on a friend’s equipment.

[@mryang3644]

Compare the 7mm Wby VS 7 PRC

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

I did!

[@zebacake4683]

They shouldve used the 300 prc case for the 7 as well. If you wanna go fast then go fast. Id take a 280ai over the 7 prc

[@derekmcmurry]

The PRC line was not introduced to go the fastest or substantially faster than anything already available. They were designed to maximize case capacity by seating bullets out further. 180 grain 7mm bullet at 2950-3000fps is plenty don't you think? I have four 7PRCs and two 280AI. They are all awesome. Just shot my newest 280AI today. I chose not to get a 300PRC and instead went 300WSM with my reamer design which follows the AW PRC concept. Should have that reamer in the next 2 weeks

[@richwc1]

The 280ai definitely should be more popular than it is. I have 4 different 7’s, including a 280 and a 7mmPrc. The 280ai is just the most impressive.

[@zebacake4683]

@@derekmcmurry for how they market the cartridge, as being this long range hunting cartridge, 2900-3000 fps with very thin jacketed bullets doesn't seem like it's really anymore capable than a 280ai and handload to handload a 7 rem mag can still beat it (and yes there are 7 rem mags with 8" twist barrels). If the cartridge was really the best at what they say it's best at, they would've used the 300 case.

[@derekmcmurry]

@@zebacake4683 Did Hornady claim it's best at anything? I was not aware of this. If they are marketing it as a long range hunting cartridge, it is, just like a 6.5-284 Norma, 6.5PRC, 300WSM, 7RemMag, 280AI, 270PRC and a lot more. I have a kickass 7RemMag I'll never part with, several 7PRCs and two 280AI and one 280 Rem. I'm well aware of 7RemMags with 8t barrels.

[@zebacake4683]

@@derekmcmurry so here you are proving my point, the cartridge is no more capable of long-range hunting than what has already existed in its class. It's not a bad cartridge by any means but if it was really all that great and better than a 7 rem mag or 280ai then its velocities would be much higher. Not to mention nobody should be hunting at these distances anyways

[@madman432000]

I would choose the 7 but probably only shoot 160g bullets

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Thanks for commenting

[@brandonrenner9597]

They definitely inflate velocities

[@brandondavis5249]

It seams like you tube guys are giddy about the 7mm, but i honestly dont know anyone who has one or wants one. However I do know guys who want the 300. Interested to see what he says about them

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

I think it depends on where you live

[@brandondavis5249]

@ReloadingWeatherby first thing is i enjoyed the video. I think it's what your focus is. As a target cartridge, the 7 is superior. In the Rockys 300 might be marginally better. In the west coast mountains and Roseavelt elk, I don't think either would be necicary.

[@dankcincy]

I pulled my 300Prc barrel off and is currently at LRI getting a 7Prc barrel fitted so I guess you can count me as the first person you've "met".

[@brandondavis5249]

@dankcincy HI, nice to "meet" you.

[@dankcincy]

@@brandondavis5249 nice to meet you as well.

[@goranmalnar5172]

They are wery close in performance like old 7,300 magnums. But this improvement in prc cartridges is not worth 50-60 years development after oldys.

[@jaybailleaux630]

Don't care which one is better I will never own one. High prices, shortages, and the fact I have more firearms than I can handload for and improve. Interesting though.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Thanks for watching Jay

[@DrewEdwardBacklas]

Is anyone actually getting close to box claimed velocity with 7prc factory ammo? I don’t own one, but all the chrono numbers I’ve seen it’s 150-200fps below advertised.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

One person has told me they get it with a 25 inch barrel. All others that have told me are way below 3000 FPS

[@richwc1]

Personally experience with 22” I’m farther below 3000 than I should be. I’m liking the cartridge, super easy to load for but I don’t think there’s any way I’m going to hit 3000 fps. Definitely not with hornady brass If I want it to hold a primer again.

[@Stewart7516]

Sadly no.. the 175 ELD-X factory ammo out of a 24" barrel isn't getting very much more velocity that the 6.8 western gets either the 175 grain browning loads.. I think real world numbers are putting the 7prc a little over 100 fps faster than the 6.8 western with the sMe bullet weights.

[@mryang3644]

Best? Half and Half...... 7-300 prc ... best of both cartridges.... thats what i would build as a roader tho.

[@markcarew6724]

The 7mm PRC is possibly the most overhyped Hornady cartridge since the 6.5 mm Creedmoor.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Don't disagree

[@jeffreywilson690]

I want a 6.5 prc nicked down to 6 mm

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

That would be sweet

[@Basically_a_nobody]

300 round barrel life lol.

[@Marcus-jg4jb]

I've been thinking that that 7 PRC necked up to 35 might be a sweet little cartridge. Good video!

[@Stewart7516]

Or a 37 😂

[@Marcus-jg4jb]

@@Stewart7516 375 Ruger Short Magnum has a nice ring to it. Lol

[@Stewart7516]

Didn't t start its life as a 375?

[@Marcus-jg4jb]

@@Stewart7516 The 7 PRC is the 375 ruger necked down and shortened. Neck it back up to 37 and you'd get a ruger short mag... lol.

[@Stewart7516]

@Marcus-jg4jb it's not a bad idea.. honestly I don't hate the 7prc I just don't think it was really necessary in the current state of our economy and whatnot.. it doesn't really answer anything I have been needing that other existing calibers don't already do.

[@jamespmullin21753]

What cartridges are NOT precision rifle cartridges? Which military specops longrange sniper units are using PRC cartridges ? What's next the 338 PRC? How about a 50 PRC with a 1,000 gr bullet at 3,000 fps mv?

[@haydenhumpherys1578]

Department of defense snipers uses 300 PRC

[@billmccrackin8825]

Where are the recoil numbers? I would think they are both uncomfortable to say the least.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Both recoil a lot

[@cabochris100]

Talk about caliber frontal area, in regards to big game killing effectiveness. 30 cal and up just seems more reliable? Is the questionable for hunting 7 PRC ELDX bullet magic? In other words, out to 400 yards, will a 7 PRC kill as quickly as your 300 Weatherby???

[@Samuel-vm7hn]

270 win has done it for years, i guarantee you 7prc will kill just fine out to 500

[@justahologram2230]

I never understood the hype of .300 PRC over .30 Nosler or .300 Norma, both of those seem just as good if not better

[@dankcincy]

​@ReloadingWeatherby This would make for an interesting video.

[@Marcus-jg4jb]

The PRC is getting within 100 fps of them with about 10 grains less powder.

[@dankcincy]

@@Marcus-jg4jb All around it's a more efficient option.

[@jeffwilliams3436]

When was the last time you saw those boxes on a store shelf?…there’s the answer to your question.

[@kylecasetta4091]

To me its marketing to a niche club. as a hunter none of their " new and improved attributes" mean anything. A marksmen sees how far they can shoot a hunter sees how close he can get. Just my opinion. For the target crowd i could see some advantage getting hand load performance from factory equipment.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

It's all fancy marketing. Good handloaded ammo always beats factory ammo. Thanks for watching

[@kylecasetta4091]

@@ReloadingWeatherby I won't disagree custom hand loads are a nice feature especially if you end up with a picky rifle. But for most hunters it's not needed. Great content, and you do have a very good way of presenting your information. Thanks for the good content

[@wilsonbelle6600]

The 300 sure kicks harder.

[@thehardieway]

Unfortunately you didn't actually chronograph the 7 prc. If you did, you'd know it's actually 140 fps SLOWER - even with a 24-26 inch barrel than what it claims.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Very true

[@diggernash1]

If someone is buying a new 7mm caliber rifle on a budget, with magnum level performance, why would you not buy the 7 PRC?

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Factory ammo options are extremely limited

[@diggernash1]

@ReloadingWeatherby Good point. Hopefully that will change soon. I'm reloading for mine, so it didn't cross my mind. The outfitter shoots the best of the factory options for me, followed by PH...match is the least accurate in my rifle.

[@Marcus-jg4jb]

@@ReloadingWeatherby That's true, but don't you think we're max two years away from wide industry support? Hornady has a way of getting the industry on board.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

@@Marcus-jg4jb For 7mm PRC? Yes. For 300 PRC? No

[@Marcus-jg4jb]

@@ReloadingWeatherby Yes I meant for the 7. The 300 I think has just failed to hook up with the broader market, and has probably found all the niche it's going to find.

[@11mchristo]

7 PRC factory advertised velocities have repeatedly been shown to be artificially inflated

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Yep

[@userJohnSmith]

At 9000ft, the lowest altitude where an elk shot is likely, the 175 is still over 2k fps at 1000yds. You should absolutely not text that, but it's important to be honest.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

I do the ballistic data the same way the ammo manufacturers do it... At sea level

[@userJohnSmith]

@@ReloadingWeatherby Normally, that's fair, but neither of these rounds are likely to be used there domestically. Might be worth adding altitude corrections as a big fat caveat, given the channel's focus. But then I live at altitude so I don't care much what happens at sea level.

[@derekedgley5074]

Go to Africa and either your 7mm or 300 PRC ammo doesn’t show which is not uncommon scenario. Most good African gunshops or your PH will be able to outfit you with either 7REM Mag or 300 WIn. so your hunt can continue, not a dissimilar prevailing situation throughout USA at this present time and I’m in Scotland. Of the 7mm REM Mag 7mmSTW 7mm REM Ultra Mag and my Lazzeroni Firebird the STW was my favourite , haven’t seen a factory rifle here yet in 7mmPRC but some factory ammo is available from both Norma and Hornady for my 6.5PRC albeit the Norma 143 is almost double the Hornady price at circa $100/20 but of course it’s several hundred ft lbs behind my custom Shilen 264 Win Mag. Unless as others have written you’re in the market for a new rifle and calibre, for hunting purposes the legacy cartridges concede very little with readily available ammunition and a proven track record to boot on game, on many continents

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

I agree.

[@dbeardsley0]

Both PRC cartridges can be found in South Africa, its growing more common there. So far I haven't had an issue taking my 300 prc over there. I hunt at Frontier and they are seeing the PRCs more and more. But other countries on the continent who knows how available it is yet.

[@richwc1]

I think the magnum length action doomed the 300prc and the 7mmPrc will kill it off. I believe Hornady released them in the order they did on purpose. If the 7 had come first, they would have not sold many 6.5 or 300’s .

[@jasonthiele2898]

300 prc all day🎉

[@weinerdog137]

Marginal improvement, but do expect? The technology is 100 plus years old. What it does do, is sell new guns, and ammo...which is the point.

[@kerrypurcell6022]

the two best are the 7mm weatherby and the 300 weatherby,,,guys like you are are chasing trends,, we already have this type of cartridge performance,from the past,,as well as the 300 win and the 7 rem mag,,,,nothing new here,,yes i know the barrels have a quicker twist,,but so could the oldies if they make them out that way,,, the belt is no problem,head space off the shoulder,,,the 300 win has proved a belt is no problem,,,,

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Umm... I own and love the 300 Weatherby.

[@dankcincy]

​@@ReloadingWeatherby Hmm, what was the name of your channel again, I must of missed it. 😅

[@rickeylahey2152]

@@dankcincy😂😂

[@SamLloyd-fp8dq]

The 7mm STW puts 7mm PRC to shame

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

It's a power house

[@dankcincy]

Combining this video with your "300 PRC vs 338 Lapua", and knowing the ballistics of the 7 out to 2k, makes for some interesting conclusions. Just saying. Lol

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Yeah... 7mm PRC has flatter trajectory than a 338 Lapua

[@dankcincy]

@@ReloadingWeatherby Don't say that too loud, going to piss some people off. Add to that the cheaper price, less recoil, and better/comparable BCs.

[@stephenkennedy3145]

7 rem mag and 300 win mag for hunting all day every day

[@mrV69]

I don’t like ELD X. I just use them to practice

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

I don't like them either

[@mrV69]

@@ReloadingWeatherby do you think the 7mm PRC is better with factory ammo then the 300?

[@erikwallen4483]

7mm PRC vs 300 PRC - which is the best? 300 Weatherby of course

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Heck yeah!

[@jasonlommen4769]

Nope. 7 and 300 prc are about $2.50/rd. 300WB is $4.50/rd. That’s nearly 2-1 in cost. Most people are on a shooting budget. Big difference.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

@@jasonlommen4769 I reload

[@edleifer6719]

not everybody does@@ReloadingWeatherby

[@WaPiTiChAsEr]

Could not disagree more with your assessment of these two calibers. You’re comparing apples to oranges & only including the raw data that supports your opinion. The 7PRC has less bullet drop because it is faster at the muzzle…other than that the 300PRC beats the smaller caliber. Bullet weight/diameter/energy cannot be discounted. Proof is in the pudding, 30 Cal Magnums hit harder than the 7mm Cal Magnums. Shot placement is & should always be taken into account, most hunters take shots that are outside of their comfort zone. Knowing this, the 300’s give hunter’s more room for error than the 7’s do. Shoot whatever gives you the most confidence to ethically harvest whatever you’re hunting. People who hunt big game with small calibers have a tendency to shoot more than once & wound more game without recovering those animals. Ask me how I know? As a guide, I deal with 15-20 hunters a year & witness all that I’m saying with my own 2 eyes.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

I appreciate your input! For the record I use a 300 Weatherby

[@WaPiTiChAsEr]

@@ReloadingWeatherby For the record, I’ve owned & hunted with every 300 Magnum except the 300 Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum. Based on my experience with each of these calibers & various types of factory & hand-loaded ammunition….the 300 PRC is hands down the most efficient of the 300’s when hunting Deer & Elk. 2nd to caliber choice is Bullet choice, ELD-X’s are great but not every rifle shoots them accurately. Shooting the bullet that the rifle likes versus what we the operator like is what causes lots of headaches. The 300 PRC loaded with a Barnes, Berger, Nosler, Sierra, etc….makes this caliber even more of a hammer! I push Berger 210’s at 3100ft/sec, with room for more powder without signs of pressure. The terminal ballistics on game is wicked, even at ranges that some would consider unethical.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

@lwbode12 Well... I was with you until you said the 300 PRC is the most efficient and that the ELD-X is a great hunting bullet... bahaha.hahaha. Let me guess... you think the 300 Weatherby is overbore and not efficient. Even though the 300 Weatherby only has 1 more grain of case capacity than a 300 PRC. For the record... 300 WSM is far and away the most efficient 30 caliber magnum.

[@WaPiTiChAsEr]

@@ReloadingWeatherby 300 Weatherby is a solid caliber, not my cup of tea…now the 30-378 Weatherby on the other hand is a grown man Weatherby😉

[@derekmcmurry]

My experiences lead me to disagree with your assessment, respectfully. With my 2 eyes, every hunting season, hunting whitetail, mule deer, black bear, pronghorn, elk, hogs, (moose and caribou hopefully in the near future), I take note of shot distance, shot angle, bullet used, cartridge (of course), shot placement, and outcome. I've done this for 40 years. I'll streamline it to the current hunting season since this one is where I had the biggest variety of cartridges and will focus only on whitetail for brevity. Two deer were killed with 300mags, a Win mag and a WSM. At 190 yards a 150 pound doe was shot with the 300WM, 150 Norma Whitetail ammo as broadside as it gets and perfect shot placement in the lower 3rd of the pocket which destroyed 50% of the heart and blew a golf ball sized hole through the lungs. With all that energy she still managed to run quite a distance. The 2nd deer with the 300WSM was shot using 168 Barnes TTSX at only 80 yards. This shot was through both shoulders. You'd think fracturing all that bone it would drop but this one managed to run quite a few yards. To add one more 30 cal, a 30-06 was used on a doe at 180 yards, 185 BLVD. It ran quite a few yards. The ammo in both mag rifles grouped 1" or less at 100 yards. The 30-06 is a one hole 4 shot group rifle (custom rifle with a Brux bbl). The only DRT with a 30 cal was a Tikka 308 Custom, Norma factory whitetail ammo using the same 150 bullet as the 300WM but this was a big buck at 90 yards quartering away. In a nutshell, the weakest of the 30 cals was the only one to drop an animal where it stood Compare this to 2 deer with a 6.5-284 Norma, Lapua brass, 140 BVLD, H1000, 210M primer, literally a one hole grouping load from this custom rifle with a Brux bbl, one buck at 150 yards weighed in at 200 pounds, the other a nice doe at 90 yards weighed in at about 160 pounds. Both broadside. Both hit where the neck meets the bulky start of the shoulder. Naturally both dropped and never moved again, not even a stiff leg relaxing or tail flicker. Of course this boils down to shot placement (as you mentioned) which worked as intended. Next is a kill at 200 yards with a 270 Win, 130 Swift Scirocco II, Fiocchi factory ammo, broadside, DRT. Next, is a kill at that same spot a week later, 6.5PRC 143 ELDX, DRT, Next, 7PRC, 180 ELDM, 200 yards, deer made it about 3 yards, done. Next a different 7PRC, 175 ELDX, 250 yards, DRT. Then a 280AI shooting factory Norma 280Rem ammo to fireform the brass, 160 tipstrike, broadside lung hit, DRT, 275 yards. Both of my sons hunted their first time this season. Both shoot 270Win and both shot 4 deer each. Load 1 - 130 TTSX over Superformance, all DRT, all shots 75 to 310 yards. Load 2 - 150 Nosler ballistic tips over VVN165, all DRT. With one of my 270s using 110 TTSX over 4350, 60 yards, DRT. And on and on and I've seen this for decades Ultimately, what I think is that each game animal has it's own level of tenacity at the moment a bullet hits it and it may drop it may run but as many have said, there are no levels to being dead. But again, the most powerful cartridge used on a whitetail this season, with all that energy/power, that I saw, that one deer made it the furthest distance. I'd like to know what makes an animal capable of traveling as far as some do despite a fatal hit. I ruled out the 30 cal is king mentality about 20 years ago after watching quite a few animals, even little 120 pound pronghorn bucks, run a long long way after a fatal hit from a 180 Swift Scirocco II out of a 300RUM. I got that rifle buying into the hype. Had to part with it because I saw way too many game drop to the 6.5-284 Norma with it's tiny 140 grain slugs even out past 800 yards. My longest shot on a mule deer was 800 yards measured with a Leica rangefinder. Not my preference but last day last evening. Dropped it with a 168 BVLD over Retumbo, once fired Win brass, 215M primers in a custom 7RemMag - McMillan stock, Jewel trigger at 1 pound, 26" Krieger #4, 4 groove bbl, and a Stiller Predator action, NF optics with MOAR reticle - high shoulder shot. I've concluded there IS NO magic cartridge. The Swedes have been dropping 1000+ pound moose for a long time with their 6.5 Mauser. I've watched heavy old bull elk drop to 7mm, 270, 6.5mm bullets (as well as 30 cal and larger).

[@keithprinn720]

few can handle the 300 PRC in many rifles , simply too much recoil plus what target requires? it or the 7 in most cases. . needs rather than being a sheep following the trends and media hype.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

There is a lot of media hype for these cartridges

[@mikebodnarchuk2056]

My Bergara ridge 300 prc I had recoiled about the same as a 7 rem mag, def less violent recoil than a 300 win mag

[@jeffwilliams3436]

I swear it’s like you fudds forget brakes and suppressors exist. A quality brake on a 300 prc knocks it down to 6.5 creedmoor recoil. Also I hunt whitetail with it. It knocks them down and with a good shot placement i don’t get bloodshot meat. So what are you talking about?

[@texpatriot8462]

I submit that nobody needs a 300 PRC for hunting.

[@Marcus-jg4jb]

Does no one need a 300 winchester mag either?

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

That's a hot take

[@texpatriot8462]

@@ReloadingWeatherby From hunting positions at ethical distances, I suspect the high recoil would create more real problems than any perceived benefit would get the hunter. I foresee a lot of flinching and missed shots.

[@rickeylahey2152]

@@texpatriot8462300 prc recoil is not that bad. From my experience, it’s about the same as 300 wm. Your reasoning would be due to inexperienced shooters. If someone flinches before shooting they should practice more before taking a shot on an animal.

[@texpatriot8462]

@@rickeylahey2152 imo - in almost all situations, a 7mm PRC, 7 RM, or 280AI with good bullets would be a better choice than either 300 magnum. If a hunter cannot kill a North American animal cleanly with a 7mm, a 300 magnum is unlikely to make things better. If people who are good shots "want" to use a 300 magnum, I am fine with it. I just don't think they "need" it

[@user-gb8gg6ho4q]

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[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Thanks for watching