8-0 TCU & Texas Tech preview, Joel Klatt has Georgia, Michigan & Tennessee in Top 10 | THE HERD

As he does every Wednesday, FOX Sports CFB Analyst Joel Klatt stops by The Herd to talk the latest in college football with Colin Cowherd. Klatt weighs in on the committee’s most recent ranking of the top ranked teams. Klatt explains the biggest issue with the ranking system is the committee has brand biases that favor some teams over others. The two discuss the aftermath of Michigan State’s incident in the tunnel following their 7-29 loss to Michigan. The two also revisit Klatt’s Top 10 college teams and decide whether Michigan should be ranked higher than Ohio State.
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8-0 TCU & Texas Tech preview, Joel Klatt has Georgia, Michigan & Tennessee in Top 10 | THE HERD
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[@deathgrinderb3284]

it took penn state having the worst qb in history for ohio state to win. michigan destroyed penn state. both sux in comparison to the sec.

[@theoneandonlyak9780]

@@deathgrinderb3284 Michigan struggled with Iowa and Ohio st beat them by 40 whats ya point?

[@edwardandra9724]

Could only kick field goals against MSU too.

[@deathgrinderb3284]

I made my point. Ohio state sux mochigan too but better then bucks

[@blackfootcheyenne860]

So, based on Hurd’s logic- there will only be four teams ever envited to the championship

[@ProfHoff]

Joel and Colin's chemistry continues to be unrivaled. So many guests on this show look afraid to challenge Colin. Joel on the other hand loves to mock him! Makes for amazing TV.

[@bellamafiaquackafellarecor7770]

Disney ghost likes

[@Rwdogg21]

He beat boxed Colin's ears in!

[@MisterDigDug]

Joel is awesome. I like him much better than the Herd.

[@Itachi-xi9sl]

@@MisterDigDug everyone does

[@jamesonmyers1316]

Ya it’s refreshing to have a weekly guest that doesn’t go along with all of Colin’s dumb takes

[@PastorTrue93]

Colin struck gold with the Sean Payton & Klatt segments on Monday and Wednesday

[@ethanspraggins6542]

Plus Wright and when Schlereth comes on

[@dunzweiler]

And I’ve been enjoying his Joe Burrow segments too.

[@ricocheteraw90sthebestdecade]

@@dunzweiler the Joe borrow segments is too much 🍆 riding for me ..colin crushes on Joe 🤣

[@bLacKxxxLoDgE]

Plus the Shreger segments

[@budgar]

2 of the best and most knowledgeable sportscasters of their genre

[@michaelcali8304]

Klatt almost always schools Colin but this week he absolutely DESTROYED him. Gotta love it lol.

[@WadeInTheJeep]

After that long debate about history playing a factor in rankings, my first thought was how Klatt just cooked him 🤣🤣

[@SuperGOVTCheese]

Klatt does have a blind spot with Ohio St, he is absolutely using history to over value them.

[@kalel352]

In what world did Colin school him

[@bryanwilley2468]

@@SuperGOVTCheese how? Can Michigan score 28 points in 3 mins like OSU did ?

[@ericspicer5132]

@@SuperGOVTCheese Right now if you only look at 2022, Ohio State has objectively been a better football team than Michigan

[@kalebpost20]

“Ghosts of Championship Past,” Klatt, you’re a genius, dude

[@danceyrselfkleen]

Maaaan you can just tell that Klatt is packing an absolute hog, like at least a girthy 8"++ what do you think lol

[@guacamole7198]

@@danceyrselfkleen ?????

[@danceyrselfkleen]

@@guacamole7198 what’s up bro what do you think

[@kendallandrews8691]

Klatt is definitely girthy

[@danceyrselfkleen]

@@kendallandrews8691 for sure. I bet it’s veiny a f and he drops huge loads too

[@sstorey79]

I can’t believe they did a entire College football segment without Colin trying to turn it into a USC segment. It’s a Christmas miracle lol

[@bash8257]

Lol. Good point

[@pleaseshutup7053]

Colin the goat stop hating

[@exclusiveman5]

@@pleaseshutup7053

[@hillboycejr4939]

@@pleaseshutup7053 ite Colin

[@KTF0]

Cuz they lost. Had they been undefeated Colin would go overboard.

[@ZingyCreature2]

Jesus Klatt mopped the floor with Colin in that debate.

[@danceyrselfkleen]

Maaaan you can just tell that Klatt is packing an absolute hog, like at least a girthy 8"++ what do you think lol

[@element720]

😂 no

[@ZingyCreature2]

@@danceyrselfkleen lmao just saw this, you probably right!

[@juanjuarez6416]

I love that Klatt tells Colin he is wrong every time he is on the show 😊

[@user-wo9jj6ii6t]

and better yet, he does it with his dad voice

[@danceyrselfkleen]

Maaaan you can just tell that Klatt is packing an absolute hog, like at least a girthy 8"++ what do you guys think lol

[@malonmickey5207]

klatt been wrong all year. He said oklahoma and ok st was good! then he said the BIG 12 was good. all not true

[@danceyrselfkleen]

@@malonmickey5207 we can kind of give him a pass tho because he’s got great BDE just a whole vibe

[@GrumpyLib6969]

@@malonmickey5207 lmao explain what’s wrong about his TCU argument? It’s all facts. He said OU was good back when everyone else thought they were good too. They were top 5 or 6 in the country for 3-4 weeks. Klatt is normally one of the most accurate analysts in all of CFB.

[@Tj-rr2mc]

From the UK but Joel Klatt has had me in a chokehold since he started featuring on the Herd, he fully got me into college ball and now I prefer it to NFL. Every time Colin uploads a Klatt video I drop everything I’m doing to watch

[@stephenayeni992]

YOO same here and I stay in Canada. His analysis is so good. You should check out his podcast?

[@kalebpost20]

I love the passion! What’s your team or teams you root for?

[@CinnabarCalisthenics]

What got you into football in the first place?

[@Reynolds69er]

Also from the UK, do you watch the games? And how would one go about doing that?

[@ap396z]

Listen to his podcast, it’s really good

[@karlpanton1055]

Klatt makes my week man

[@chipsaunders5109]

Absolutely incredible. Klatt freaking out over Colin's clemson take is why this is always the best segment of the week

[@danceyrselfkleen]

Maaaan you can just tell that Klatt is packing an absolute hog, like at least a girthy 8"++ what do you think lol

[@921athletics]

Waiting on ur response to Klatts hog lmao

[@MrInternational201]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@TigersTilliDie]

@@danceyrselfkleen Klatt definitely has a baseball bat tucked in those skinny jeans

[@josephwhiteside9479]

Man I love these segments. You can tell Colin respects Joel and wants to learn from him but it’s still so funny seeing Klatt freak out over his takes

[@wilfredberqvist9096]

That last 3 or so minutes was pure gold (the whole segment was but that in particular). Unreal chemistry between Colin and Joel. I look forward to this segment every week.

[@ezrageasling]

Always nice to see Colin spending some quality time with his father

[@billbilly8709]

I was thinking the Same thing

[@redstr86]

I quite literally look forward to this segment every single week

[@danceyrselfkleen]

For sure and mannnn you can just tell that Klatt is packing an absolute hog, like at least a girthy 8"++ what do you think lol

[@andim.8788]

Me too

[@MeJamesah]

Me too

[@BrianDurstMusic]

Lol "Wow that's interesting why is that" Klatt is hilarious everytime

[@chadd3299]

Ohio State’s last quarter against Penn State was incredible. Agree completely they went to 6th and 7th gear. However, I’d argue, they can’t replicate those gears on command because JTT had the single greatest defensive effort in a game I’ve ever seen and no human being can do that week in and week out. Nor will Clifford be there to make bad reads and mistakes to put them in a position to do so.

[@Cpnweze]

Well as a osu fan ill say its highly likely that your theory will be tested . Its our defense thats has been a huge questionmark every year we are in the playoffs.

[@justinbrosious6601]

Yea we beat ourselves with 4 turnovers

[@downstg]

@@justinbrosious6601 They're called Takeaways .. because the other team had alot to do with each of these. In other words OSU beat PSU!

[@litedawg]

Yep OSU turned it on but Clifford lost that game.

[@1TotalJabroni]

I cannot wait for Michigan/Ohio State. I think Michigan will dominate the Buckeyes upfront, probably run for 300+ yards, but how many big plays will Ohio St generate in the passing game, and will Ohio St be able to run well vs. Michigan which no team has been able to for an entire game. Michigan has been on cruise control all season, they've had a couple subpar first halves, and they've absolutely rolled teams over in second halves I think Michigan/Ohio St this year could be one of the most epic battles ever. A battle of the biggest rivals with starkly contrasting styles. And Buckeye fans should love the fact that Michigan is at or near their level, it makes the rivalry 10x better.

[@chrislittle1648]

Man I LOVE these two! Great back and forth, profound respect, and data-driven/backed conversations!

[@mattmills9647]

He annoys me sometimes. Dogging lsu for losing to the #1 team in a game they lost the entire left side of their o-line is silly to me

[@dsgp7835]

I love it when Joel Klatt tells Colin what's what.

[@cryogeneric]

Klatt spitting facts when it comes to "perception". This has only been amplified by the 4 team playoff. So glad it's being expanded

[@javeonbrantley2219]

I look forward to the segment every week

[@TroyUcf]

Best segments on his show. Love Klatt and his energy. He has a good radio voice as well

[@danceyrselfkleen]

Maaaan you can just tell that Klatt is packing an absolute hog, like at least a girthy 8"++ what do you think lol

[@di114n2]

@@danceyrselfkleen wtf lol

[@danceyrselfkleen]

@@di114n2 cmon bro just look at him. also there have been other weeks he’s been on and you can see it better and also just the way he sits and his foot size you can just tell

[@di114n2]

@@danceyrselfkleen yeah ….. no

[@danceyrselfkleen]

@@di114n2 well what do you think personally, I mean how do you imagine it when you think about it

[@Datdudetd46]

Klatt straight up put his son in timeout with this segment

[@jackpiccione6499]

colin hasn't watched a down of TCU lol

[@buckeyesl5]

“I know what Oregon is when they dominate a bad Pac 12. I don’t know what Ohio State is when they dominate a bad Big 10” lol

[@alia1824]

huh

[@bojinglebells]

@@alia1824 I think he's making fun of Colin's hypocrisy

[@juliusmoore2176]

I would love to see TCU play Clemson. I think the Horned Frogs would get it done.

[@ryanbros99]

One of Colin’s worst weeks argument wise. Great segment tho! Klatt bringing facts and Colin bringing emotion and “America’s opinions” are great! You get the logic and the feelings together! Like rotten tomatoes with their own score and the people score!

[@YodaSmokes]

“You just got shoved off that tight rope” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@tylerklackner8851]

One of the best segments in awhile

[@jesserapana4085]

I look forward to these segments

[@Blas4]

"That's called a data HAMMER" Lmao love Joel Klatt

[@keilanturner7910]

Totally love when these two come together and give their takes. Very entertaining!

[@StrongDaddy]

More Klatt! He's the best guest on here.

[@adrianbuck8772]

Colins and Joels chemestry is amazing but i think its the first time that Klatt is way more aggresive than playfull.

[@danceyrselfkleen]

Yeah and mannnn you can just tell that Klatt is packing an absolute hog, like at least a girthy 8"++ what do you think lol

[@KevinHasSpoken]

Thank god for Joel Klatt! You can tell this man just has a deep & sincere passion for the game. His takes never come across as biased to me, rather pointing out the glaring inconsistencies in the rankings from the “Experts” every week. Wonder where some of these programs would be if the committee didn’t give them the benefit of the doubt in EVERY SINGLE RANKING *cough* sec *cough*

[@maximusmeridius2306]

Great segment!

[@leowiley8849]

Good take 👍💯 thanks again guys

[@dtfech]

these guys are so much fun to watch. like two parts of my brain going at it back and forth

[@TonyM132]

Besides the two reasons Joel gave, a big reason these first CFP rankings matter is that they fix in stone the starting point each team has to prove it deserves any changes from. The committee can't just "change their mind" once these first rankings are posted. If they make a change, it is heavily scrutinized, often criticized, and the committee must defend it publicly. They basically cannot reanalyze the first 9 weeks now without losing credibility, all successive weeks' changes of opinions can only be based on what happens after week 9, and that makes changes much harder to make. These first rankings assign the value of your first 8 games, a value which effectively cannot change going forward, and that makes them matter a lot.

[@YourAverageFan]

I disagree with this take entirely. Example, If Cuse, Wake Forest, and NCSU all fall out of the top 25 and a team like Maryland jumps into the top 25, they then have no excuse to have Michigan or TCU below Clemson bc then Clemson wouldn’t have a top 25 win. The issue is they’ll put teams in spots to justify rankings.

[@TonyM132]

@@YourAverageFan Actually I believe your example illustrates my point. Even if those three ACC teams each lose two more games but Clemson finishes undefeated, Clemson will not be ranked any lower than they are now. Once these initial rankings are posted, it is very rare to be dropped unless you lose, and therefore very difficult to move up unless teams above you lose.

[@alanmartin6436]

they should meet once after the conference championships and decide

[@TonyM132]

@@alanmartin6436 I personally agree with that. But the problem is that would be counter-productive to the primary goal of the CFP, which is to build drama and TV ratings, ultimately to generate more money.

[@YourAverageFan]

@@TonyM132 Moving up isnt hard, It happens all the time and thats my point. Michigan will jump Clemson if they win out. Last year Michigan jumped Bama and Cincy and then Bama beat Georgia and jumped Michigan. Yes Clemson will likely not move down unless they move but its very possible they could if Michigan and Bama or someone else jumps them.

[@SC2point0]

I watch a lotta clips from all the sports shows, and Joel Klatt is one of the best guests on any show. Dude knows his stuff, and he's always clear, concise, and fair in his opinions and analysis. Plus, he usually slaps Cowherd around which is always great lol.

[@dennisgannon]

It is the #1 college show. Klatt and Herd are great together and they both make good points.

[@scottyscott571]

Love u 2 guys when u talk college football… keep up the good work man!!!

[@tonymazza1861]

Klatt is the truth, stays putting Collin in his place lol

[@anthonysolis3795]

These two are amazing together those who aren't familiar with these segments would thing man Joel is unbelievable coming on Colin's show and talking to him like this lol but all respect with men 👏🏻

[@ducethe2nd246]

One thing I don’t understand about the Clemson hate is, since when is it a bad thing to have a team that is capable of putting in a backup quarterback in order to help win the game. I do agree with Joel that these rankings matter when they’re used as justification later on

[@rushwalker6520]

ong Klatt is crapping on Clemson s little too hard.

[@missourimanful]

“We don’t draft. We recruit.” 3:23 mark. Great words Joel. So true.

[@MV12267]

Lol that away teams argument put Colin's head in a pretzel 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jordanmcelroy5861]

This is why Joel klatt is the best. He’s so passionate about the sport!

[@buckeyesl5]

Colin, Michigan was down briefly to Penn State as well..

[@djjames8122]

Did ya watch that game? PSU had 2 big plays... a pick six, and a 60 yd qb keeper. That's it. MI completely dominated them the entire 2nd half.

[@zrussom998]

They had the lead with 1 first down in the entire 1st half lol. Never seen any game more lopsided with the team getting thrashed having a lead!

[@dl_0002]

I'm always looking forward to this segment each week now. Best 15 min of college football talk on the internet.

[@sudukemsn]

Wow Klatt schooled Colin more than usual today 😅

[@luxuryfo]

Love this show!!

[@thedeifiedjulius2310]

Yea that that LSU rankings was absurd

[@jasonanderson3161]

Why is it ever 7 days this 15 to 20 minute segment is the best college football show out there?

[@noahwills9924]

Joel “Strong Breeze” Klatt!!!!

[@tavian15]

I love each week, we show the love for Colin and Joel!

[@megantyree7468]

Favorite segment of the week

[@HyzersGR]

The Michigan kid that got attacked went back early to the locker room because he's from Texas and his dad is a truck driver who drives up to see him and his twin brother play and can't hang around for very long after the game. They go back to the locker room right away every game.

[@alia1824]

Liar!

[@sudukemsn]

I hate it for them… The helmet swinging dude had better never play for State again smdh

[@HyzersGR]

@@alia1824 on what basis are you calling me a liar? Besides trying to defend this assault. Are you denying that they don’t go back to the locker room immediately after home games?

[@alia1824]

@@HyzersGR on the basis that the story you said is proven to be false by multiple people on ESPN and FS1. He got beat up because he said the N word

[@HyzersGR]

@@alia1824 🤣 is that the story the MSU players are gonna tell the judge lmaooo

[@MisterDigDug]

Joel hammered the Herd with facts. 😅

[@weebs2]

This was incredible

[@jamesdianuzzo2832]

One of the best segments on tv weekly. Colin and Klatt talking college ball is far and above better than any tv network talking about it.

[@defmetalhead]

This interaction between the two is the best I have seen on this show.

[@skylorstewart8004]

My favorite segment of every week

[@chip4057]

easily the best segment on college football EVERY WEEK. These two are so entertaining and insightful. And this week I 100% agree with everything the Klattster said

[@Thebigperson797]

This dynamic is freaking amazing omg

[@PilotoFootball]

Love these!!! Wish Joel could be there for an hour!

[@m-moneymgt8055]

Love these two guys together

[@lock_dwnc7779]

CLEMSON PLAYS TO THE SKILL OF THE OPPONENT

[@125henni]

Sure y'all already know, but this is the best segment of the week

[@ivanalhamed6843]

I would watch this segment all day!!

[@lancemichael1980]

WOW, Joel totally murdered Colin with the home road data... LOVED IT. I love Joel and Colin, I LOVE this back and forth each week. It's the best, love these guys. Joel Klatt is probably the absolute best in college football analysis. I'd love to hear someone come up with a better name. He's great. Bring him on every day Colin!

[@DavidMosby]

I love Joel Klatt! TCU MBA '89

[@ReturnOfTheSnack]

Love that we compare the Penn State game and not the Iowa game

[@Lemm167]

Let’s be real for a second…. How many times did Iowa turn the ball over in their own territory against OSU? How many against Michigan? Iowa shot themselves in the foot over and over again that game basically giving OSU a bunch of short fields to score a bunch of points. Statistics don’t lie man. That didn’t happen with the Michigan game. Iowa took care of the ball in that game. They made Michigan beat them in the trenches in that game. The two games shouldn’t be comparable just because Iowa is a common opponent for Michigan and OSU. The two teams play very very different on offense.

[@ReturnOfTheSnack]

@@Lemm167 then how can we do the same with the Penn State game? That was the point I'm making you can't compare one game and not the other. Just picking and choosing games to compare because it fits the argument doesn't work here.

[@darrencollinsjr.7584]

Colin is a classic example of what a Michigan fan is in 2022. Been getting thrashed for over a decade by Ohio State. Win 1 year and all the sudden Ohio State can’t compete with Michigan 🤦🏽‍♂️😂😂

[@martinyant8653]

This

[@Prince-jq1mt]

Love how Joel Klatt dumps facts and astute insight on Colins touchy feely takes. Definitely my favorite guest on the Herd.

[@phaysyk]

My favorite Wednesday segment!

[@americanman5908]

I am surprised they are meeting Father's Day isn't coming for another 7 months.

[@tktoadE]

Love it!

[@masonbailey5274]

Love these 2 😂

[@Hurricane1395]

Always A+ Duo

[@isaiah5662]

THANK YOU KLATT

[@leetraviusmckay314]

Joel "you cannot be serious I feel like McEnroe right now" 🎾😂🤣

[@dylanlesner8313]

Always look forward to Joel on here

[@justinlariviere]

These guys are great. Please Joel bring him on for an hour of the pod

[@JasonFlemingMusic]

Lol I don’t really know much about college football but i watch this just for the banter and dynamic between these too

[@michaelstrange8542]

Easily the best weekly segment in sports talk radio

[@SoSickRick]

14:45 why not pull the clip for your podcast where you brought up Kirbys comments about playing on road Joel?

[@jackpackage4278]

The car analogy was amazing!

[@ronaldshute1924]

Thxs Joel, your the only voice of reason on the Blue car fan.

[@LG-gc8zn]

Joel Klatt analysis are always of great qualities and consistent

[@mccordcoachfox]

I love the data hammer! Love when Klatt uses logic, data and common sense to bring reality to Colin’s world!

[@timmwynn8334]

As soon as someone says last year it’s over tbh

[@SB-ll4cr]

The playoff system needs to be expanded to insure fairness into the selection process. The top 4 teams don't always make it to the finals as sometimes a darkhorse gets hot and puts together wins. That's what makes it so exciting about expanding and giving more teams a chance to win.

[@eltoro210]

This is why I love the herd. He invites people who will challenge him. Not someone who will pat his back and agree all the time

[@danjokess]

I love when Colin’s father comes to visit his son at work 😊

[@financiallytrained]

I hate when people compare teams against a common opponent. I think Michigan and Ohio State are such different teams with their play styles that the their games against other teams are going to look wildly different. Michigan isn’t about scoring a ton of points, they like to control the game and clock with running and short passes. Ohio state is high flying offense. I would say that both teams have a big weakness on offense: Michigan has some red zone issues while Ohio State needs their O-line and run game to be better. Good for Collin and us as college football fans that we don’t need to compare them since they play at the end of the season though.

[@yeetmaestro575]

And folks like Colin, and an unfortunate majority of college football watchers, think that games played between common opponents have the same script. They don’t. Every game is different. We can say we have certain expectations based on games prior to this one, but we play the full game(s) for a reason.

[@8thaccount535]

OSU beat Iowa 54-10 and Michigan beat them 27-14 - if we're playing the stupid "common opponent" game.

[@swzeusmartinez7874]

Osu barley beat Penn state Michigan man handled them 〽️GO BLUE

[@8thaccount535]

@@swzeusmartinez7874 Michigan barely beat Iowa and OSU man-handled them.

[@swzeusmartinez7874]

@@8thaccount535 Iowa trailed the whole game against Michigan but yet that’s barely winning osu had to come back against Penn state we didn’t and that’s the game everyone keeps referring too when they talk Michigan and osu

[@sl796]

Klatt is making so much sense. Brilliant mind.

[@joshengels3440]

Legit the best segment in sports media

[@franciscovelasco9550]

J Klatt ANNIHILATED cowherd today hahaha. So Great!!!!

[@juliusmoore2176]

Educate him JK like you always do. Love it!