8 AMAZING Hyundai IONIQ 5 Features NOT Available for TESLA MODEL Y

[@susiebigelow]

I've got both the Y and the Ioniq 5, keeping the Ioniq 5 because it's quieter, has less blind spots and has free charging for 2 years. Less costly overall and is a great car.

[@jakopberg]

You missed • electric adjustable backseat/ boot space • blind spot camera in dashboard when turning on indicators • adjustable center console • good looks 😁 The Y cost a fair bit more here. So you could say price too. Obviously you haven’t driven the Ionic 5. I’m choosing between the two But to get to test drive the Y in Norway turn out to be tricky. Tesla seams to have no interest in booking test drives.

[@fredrikfjeld1575]

I test drove both here in Norway and Tesla let me test drive the car, even when I came in when they were closing, so I kept the guys at work for half an hour longer. Then I got a over night test drive, which I had during the worst weather in years. When it comes to price, if you want the glass roof and everything the Model Y has, not choosing metallic paint, then the total costs comes to 570k nok. About 10K less than the Model Y. Interest on your loan will cost 30-40k more for 5 years for the Ioniq 5, which makes the total price of the Ioniq 5 higher than the Model Y. If you choose not to have the glass roof, then the price falls to 550k. They gave me a price of 61 000 kr for serivce up to 120 000 km. That is more than an XC90 and way, way more than the ID4 and Model Y. So cost of ownership is also a lot higher for the Ioniq 5. It might be that the seller put in the wrong model for the service deal, or he thought me gullible. Either way, the sellers at both Tesla and Møller, did not recommend a service deal for electric veichles and Møller were just a lot more proffesional as well. But things you do not get on the Ioniq 5, is visibility through your headlights during a Norwegian winter. I have not tested this at night, but the placement of those headlights made it so after the two hours I was driving, you could hardly see the headlights at all. Did not have the same problem with the ID4 and Model Y in the same conditions. Space. I would say you have around twice the usable space in the Model Y compared to the ID4 and Ioniq 5. The well beneath the trunk, the much larger trunk and the frunk makes a huge difference that you do not really notice until you try to put in a dog cage or something like it. Storage room in the front. THe open area with the adjustable center removes pretty much all storage space to create a feeling of spaceiousnes, which gives little back. Your phone is also hidden away when charging, so you can't see if that notification was something critical, without taking your eyes of the road. A functional map that can plan trips. I plot in Stockholm in all the cars, because the trip will require at least one charging stop. The ID4 and Model Y showed were to charge, how long and the total trip time. The Ioniq 5 wanted me to charge right away, even with a 80% battery. It did not show any useful information at all... The map is also worse than any other car I have driven (except a 2021 Toyota Corolla rental, which does not have any side roads on the map at all. I was just driving out on a field the whole time). Voice commands. None of them worked. Motor.no didn't get it to work either. Worked flawlessly in the Tesla and almost flawlessly in the ID4. There are so many other quality of life problems as well. You have physical buttons, which is great, but not for the things you normally use. Media opens up a slide on the screen where you have to chose between bluetooth and radio... Why can't it remember which one you are using? It has buttons for navigation AND for the map. They are the same thing! Remove one, put down phone instead. The Ioniq 5 has many buttons which just opens something for you to choose on the screen. That removes the whole point of having buttons to begin with... Take seat heating and cooling. Press the button, then move your hand 30-40 cm up to the screen to press either down for cooling or up for heating. Then, if you do not want it to go on full, move your hand either 5 cm up or down again so you can press either up or down to adjust. I adjust my heated seats all the time. You move your hands 43 cm more than on the Model Y, 45 cm more than the ID4. You have to press three different places. It takes so much attention away from the road. It is one of the worst designs I have seen for something you use all the time. People complain that the Tesla now requires you to go into a menu. Well, the Ioniq 5 has that, only 10 times worse. Tesla can fix it with a software update, the Ioniq 5 cannot. The head-up display was fuzzy and of a lot lower quality than the ID4 one. It, like most of the head ups, is also invisible with my sunglasses (the ID4 was a little better, so again with the quality), which means you have to see your speed on the screen instead. Which of course is hidden entirely behind the wheel. Which means that I had to move my whole upper body to see how fast I was going. Never had a car which this was such a huge problem in before. People complain about the Tesla, but I didn't have to move my head at all to see the speed in the Y. The ID4 also has the speed just right there in the middle. No problems at all. I went to test drive these cars, thinking that I would end up buying the Ioniq 5. For me, with the price being higher than the Model Y, longer delivery date and the worst experience I have had with a user interface in any modern car, it just isn't worth it. If you could get the same car, without the glass roof, for around 50 000 less, then maybe. You can get the ID4 for a lot less than the other two, but the loan, again, adds 30k to the price, over 5 years. That means you just end up with a slightly less expensive car that has half the things the Model Y has as standard. And I need the space. So having test driven all three cars, I found the Ioniq 5 to be the worst of them, for my everyday use. Even though there is a lot of positive sides of the Ioniq 5 (seats, the ride, android auto (though it is through a cabled connection, which just means that you have to leave your phone near the floor, have a cable that can hook your right leg and create accidents, and makes the open solution in the car useless), the passenger seats, head up display (though far from a "good" one) and more) they are just to few for the price and how frustrating everything is for what I use the most.

[@justobserving4862]

@@fredrikfjeld1575 damn, 5 star review right there

[@fredrikfjeld1575]

@@justobserving4862 I have many more opinions about all three of the cars and could have written pretty much the same amount as above, just about the map on the Ioniq 5. It would however have taken me a lot of time. There is a lot to like about the car, but it was annoying as hell. It also muted the stereo (which I hope for the owners sake is an option you can turn off) every time it thought I was crossing a line. It is snow on the road, so it thought I was crossing lines all the time! It gave an alert and muted the stereo at least 10 times in 4-5 minutes. Again, compable with the Toyota Corolla I had to drive for a month. That car didn't just give an alert, but tried to steer the car when it thought I was driving over lines. The car actively tried to drive me off the road. Wisely I saw that the same function was turned off on the demo car from Hyundai. And I don't think I mentioned 1-pedal driving, which the car can't remember, so you have to manually turn it on every time you start it. Just why. Imagine always using 1-pedal driving, and then forgetting to turn it on only once, it like a year. That is the way you hit someone walking over the street or rear end someone. There is a lot of positive things to say about the Hyundai as well, and most reviewers are great at mentioning those. Few mention the faults though.

[@ckone6368]

I‘ve one since July. Was lucky to get one of those so called “project 45” cars here in Germany. It is an absolute great car. The built quality is higher than any Tesla I’ve seen and the number of dealers and service points is much higher than Tesla.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Don't compare it to the Tesla. Tesla will do fine. Compare it to the VAG cars and the Big Mach.

[@ckone6368]

@@rogerstarkey5390 had the electric Golf before. Made a test drive in the ID3 and was completely disappointed from VW. The interior looks and feels like a Renault Twingo from the nineties. And it drives worse than the Golf. Build quality is lower from VW for sure. The Hyundai is closer to my Mercedes than to the VW. Especial to the ID.3

[@IVH-BE]

I ordered an Ioniq 5 yesterday ! Haven't seen one on the road here (Belgium) yet...but I loved the test drive I did. roomy, comfy, great displays...

[@ckone6368]

@@IVH-BE it is indeed a great car. Hope you’ll get it soon.

[@brianpark2564]

@@ckone6368 lol someone got triggered by that Tesla comparison 😂

[@Yanquetino]

I'd mention that, unlike the Tesla Model Y, the Hyundai Ioniq 5 has slightly reclining rear seats, a moveable center console, handgrips over all four doors, adjustable and removable headrests, and (in the Limited edition) pull-up window shades in the rear. On the other hand, its frunk is much smaller. There is room underneath it to be larger, and Hyundai should increase its size in future models. They also should add dashcam/sentry recordings and… a rear window wiper. Still, I will likely replace my Model 3 with an Ioniq 5 Limited in the future. It looks great!

[@turng]

I just purchased the IONIQ 5 because of the taxes incentives, the two years 30 minutes charging sessions, and great alternative to tesla 👍

[@Cleanerwatt]

Awesome! It is an amazing car that I am considering purchasing in the future!

[@ChristopherLeeFoto]

what I love about ioniq 5 aside from all the other factors...efficiency, etc ...is that alot of thought was put into the design of the car. I don't love everything about it but it's unique. So many different car brands today all look similar if not the same as if they all hired the same designers....so generic and boring. a mercedes looks like like a bmw...a bmw looks like a tesla Y...just slapped a logo on it and call it whatever you want...they all look the same. lol

[@cravarc]

I would totally buy it. Another feature: solar charging. Big Tesla fan but Hyundai has a winner here.

[@mikefrith1590]

I have been sitting on the EV sidelines but actively shopping now. The new Hyundai and KIA EVs look brilliant but I still think a bit behind Tesla, particularly when the charging network is considered. Having said this I have to consider the needs of my ‘co-pilot’ who is adamant “No passenger adjustable lumbar support, no sale.” My head says Model Y, but because Tesla removed this feature looks like we are going Korean.

[@steinareliassen385]

We have test driven the Ioniq 5 a couple of, and from my "copilots" perspective, it is the best car ever. It is amazing, and it may very well be our next car, driving a BMW i3 (full EV, not hybrid) Living in Europe, the non-Tesla charge network is no issue at all, and I am pretty sure it will not be an issue for long in the US either.

[@GET2222]

@@steinareliassen385 the charging network sucks if it’s not a Tesla supercharger. Have you used it? I have owned a model X since 2016 and the charging always works. Anytime I use electrify America or any other charging network, it fails or there’s an issue for charging speeds. No one takes care of them. In 10 years I might consider buying something outside of TESLA but any other EV is handcuffed.

[@steinareliassen385]

@@GET2222 I have owned electric cars for 7 years, never had a Tesla. While, yes, the Tesla charge network is better, I have never had any issues getting where I want. In the early days with our LEAF, there was some issues with broken chargers and not enough of them, but this is not much of a problem anymore. Tesla will be opening their network for other brands soon anyway (not sure if that is valid for the US...) I don't think the US will be far behind, and speed charging for other brands will not be an issue much longer there either. I cannot get a Tesla, the carrying capacity is just too dang low expect for the Model X, and that car is too big and too expensive...

[@GET2222]

@@steinareliassen385 cybertruck will solve any carrying capacity. The Model Y can carry more than a Leaf. I see Model Y’s pulling large boats as well. The Model Y Isn’t much smaller than a Model X.

[@steinareliassen385]

@@GET2222 6kg more than the LEAF is not exactly a lot, specially when the Model Y competes against cars of a different class (id4 etc). What the cypertruck can carry is kinda irrelevant for people that consider the Model Y and similar cars... Ioniq 5 / EV6 can carry a lot more than Model Y, pull just as much, and are all in all nicer cars.

[@elindstrom3850]

I made a ‘reservation’ for an Ionic 5 last July and today I just received an email from Hyundai telling me the car will be available in the next couple of weeks and that a local dealership will be giving me a call (I live in the Sacramento, CA region ). The email told me the MSRP of the car I reserved would be $39,500. I just called my local Hyundai dealership and ask them if they would sell me the Ionic 5 I reserved at MSRP and they told me, because of a national shortage, I would have to pay a dealer markup of which would probably be 10% to 20%.. Rather than pay this exorbitant markup and have to put up with all the dealership games I am going to order a Tesla Model Y and know exactly what I am going to pay. I thought maybe if you highlight this dealership tactic on you channel Hyundai might pay some attention to changing to a no-hassle direct buying model.

[@CSIG1001]

i leased my 2024 limited ioniq for 7k down , 24 months no payments 24k miles. free charging. will be buying it

[@Urgelt]

You made a point which I believe is incorrect: that an 800 volt charger reduces heat in battery cells. I'm sure that's wrong. 800 volt chargers generate less heat *in the charging cables.* There is less resistance in the cables. 800 volt electrical systems within a car *also* generate less heat *within the car's cables.* It's easier to *deliver to the car* electricity at a higher rate with an 800 volt charging system. There's a small improvement in energy loss with higher voltage systems during charging, too, but it's not very much. Heat in the cell has nothing to do with any of that. *That* heat is the product of electrons moving between electrodes within each cell. The car's electrical system will step down the voltage to what each cell needs as it charges. And *that* is software-controlled. Since Hyundai is achieving faster charging *in the battery pack,* they have made an engineering decision to stress their cells more than many other electric car brands. This opens up a can of worms. How will this decision affect the degradation curve for Hyundai's packs? The car is too new to have a public track record on this. It's conceivable that Hyundai's extra fast charging speeds will turn out to be a *disadvantage.* I'm not sure what kind of cells are in the Ioniq-5, but I suspect it's either pouch or prismatic. Both are form factors which place cooling farther away from where chemical activity is taking place within the cell. Pouch cells, such as those found in the Chevy Bolt, are particularly notorious for developing hot spots that cooling is too far away to prevent. Probably worse is the air-cooled pack found in the Nissan Leaf. Air cooling works great when it's frigid outside, but poorly when it's hot. Engineering decisions about form-factor, cooling *and* how to limit cell stress all play into charging speed; it's not just about the charger's voltage. The point I'm making is that a lot of variables are being juggled by every manufacturer when it comes to charging speed. It's not enough to change the voltage and call it a day. The cell form-factor matters. The cooling system matters. And software matters, because that controls how much stress is inflicted on cells. When a manufacturer crows about how much faster they can charge their packs, that's the *start* of a conversation, not the end of it. Whether its an advantage is a complicated question, and it's a question that is really only answerable when plenty of data over time comes to our eyeballs That's data we haven't seen for the Ioniq-5. But my guess is, to achieve such startling charging advantages, while using either pouch or prismatic cells, they've made a trade-off decision between cycle life and charging speed that might inflict an inferior degradation curve on consumers. I might be wrong about that, though. It depends on their other engineering decisions. When Tesla's tabless 4680 cells get into their cars, I would expect faster charging speeds *and* longer cycle life, because electron paths within the cell will be short, the cylindrical form-factor favors cooling close to where chemistry is happening, and because Tesla is really good at engineering software and cooling solutions. Those factors are far, far, far more important to charging speed + cycle life than switching to 800 volt chargers.

[@emceh]

Yes the cells themselves are getting the same amount of current as on 400V systems unless Hyundai would be able to fit in like 150kWh pack in the same dimensions it has now. To me 800V gives some efficiency savings (lighter cabling, more efficient components that generate less heat) but maybe it's just preparation for the future when new cells are being developed with greater energy density. I have also tracked both charging sessions and compared to Tesla Model 3, Ioniq 5 is charging maybe 10% faster that translates to like few minutes longer charging sessions during long trips. So nothing revolutionary here except media hype. So I don't think they stress theirs cells that much.

[@Urgelt]

@@emceh To be fair, it's Hyundai itself which is claiming much faster charging speeds. It's not *just* media hype, it's an actual claim. But let's say you're right about Hyundai's 10% faster charging. 10% faster charging than a Tesla, if using great big pouch cells which can develop hot spots, would represent a very aggressive tradeoff: faster charging speed at the expense of cell stress and cycle life.

[@Cleanerwatt]

You make great points (as always) and thanks for your perspective. The IONIQ 5 does use pouch cells as you thought.

[@Urgelt]

@@Cleanerwatt I'm glad that you are welcoming my input. We're all on a learning curve here (me included). Too often, what we're being told by 'journalists' (I use the term loosely) is wrong. We need to keep our critical thinking skills sharp and help defend each other from nonsense. Team effort!

[@honsinglee4805]

@@emceh for the same power, at 800V vs 400V, the cells are getting half the current and hence less heat. Power= Voltage x Current or watts = volts x amperes

[@nikolarunjavec1079]

On top of all it looks more unique, has solar roof option, great warranty, always welcome physical buttons, you can park it out only with a key from tight spaces... Ioniq 5 is a no brainer for me. Especially since they no longer use batteries from burning LG, but use SK innovation.

[@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726]

The ioniq 5 is just outdatedd concerning interior and software. It feels old and unpleasant to use.

[@nikolarunjavec1079]

@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 interior is on much higher level than any tesla. Software is a matter of preference. I don't like tesla approach with all functions in screen

[@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726]

@@nikolarunjavec1079 the Ioniqu is outdated crap.

[@nikolarunjavec1079]

@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 I finally agree. Thank you for enlightening me. 😅

[@holaadios9958]

And you dont need to use the tablet to open the glovebox :)

[@toddhutchins2492]

I have an Ioniq 5 and I love it.

[@55tseng]

You've missed the super wide back reclining seats. This makes this a long distance car with greatest comfort. The other thing is the back seat can slide forward to accommodate more luggage in the back. Most people ive talked to complain about the Model Y's rough riding. The ioniq is soft and smooth. These were features that drawn us to buy the Ioniq

[@passionatehealthykitchen]

Please mention that the most features you have mentioned are specific to Limited trim on the Summary or title as people might buy SEL or SE which may not contain most of these features.

[@josephqhanh2413]

800V is excellent - I did a 20-80 in 9 minutes at one of the very few actually working Electrify America 350 kW chargers. Mapping system is 10 years behind Tesla. Very good video.- thanks.

[@drix82961]

Just purchased a new Hyundai Ioniq 5 on 5/1/23. We have already taken a 1600 mile round trip excursion. A lot of the perks mentioned are only found on the Limited trim package. We have the SEL RWD. Also we were told our vehicle not not qualify for the $7500 tax credit as it was not assembled in the US. Would like to find out if this is true or not. We LOVE our Ioniq 5!

[@strandwal6878]

Over here in the Netherlands there are a number of exclusive Tesla superchargers open for other EV’s. It’s a pilot but looks promising. Did two test drives in a Ioniq5: one with an awd and one with rwd. Very impressed. Prices are competitive and to be under model Y. You forgot about the excellent Bose sound system build into the top trims. If I’m correct it’s a 8:1 surround system. And the colours. At Tesla you only get a few options or pay a lot more. Ioniq comes in at least 9, although they don’t seem to vary a lot. Mainly greyish colours but the matte gold-grey one makes it look like the DeLorean of Marty in back to the future

[@Relaxation82]

I think it is worth mentioning that the V2L functionality supports loads up to 3.6 kW in countries using 230 / 240 volt electricity. That makes a difference, making it possible to use tools like a table saw with a proper capacity that usually require > 2kW power. That is great when building something at a cabin equipped only with a few solar panels and also when camping and frying your sausages with an electric grill. When using V2L to save the day of another BEV owner, is it really so that the V2L first converts DC into AC and then again to DC with that trickle charger? That has to be inefficient, and terribly limiting especially on those countries using that 120-volt outlets.

[@Cleanerwatt]

Yes, in the European version it does offer the higher peak output that you mentioned due the the higher voltage - the US version is rated at the 1.9kW.

[@holaadios9958]

Just one week with the top trim Ioniq 5 RWD with solar roof. Just awesome car to say at least. I live in Madrid and almost nobody gets one. Its a eye-catching car for sure.

[@BassKlef1]

I have the auto lift gate, but it is more of a nuisance, because I have to be aware not to go near the lift gate when I don't want it to open. Also, I do use a car cover (my garage is currently in construction) and I can't easily turn off the auto lift gate without going into the infotainment. I wish there was an easy way to turn it off with out that hassle.

[@mavinswapp9663]

When Tesla charging is available for other brands to charge will Ioniq still be slow charging since Tesla chargers do not have 800 volts available?

[@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis]

It’s still DC fast charging, but yes, it will be slower due to the lower voltage.

[@KineticEV]

Yes. You're only as fast as your slowest point.

[@steinareliassen385]

"slow charging" is generally used when you talk about AC charging. As mentioned in this video, the Ioniq 5 charges a little slower on a 400V DC charger, but it still charges fast, even faster than the Model Y.

[@tongtran007]

I prefer the model Y but the ionic 5 seems like a good alternative 👍🏼

[@lagunamusic7686]

It’s a great car for the money. I prefer my Tesla, but if I couldn’t afford a Tesla I’d absolutely by this.

[@HansOleBenonisen]

Hey everyone, Just watched this comparison between the Ioniq 5 and the Tesla Model Y. Spoiler alert: Ioniq 5 all the way for me! Here's why: First off, the new 2025 Ioniq 5 models have some pretty sweet upgrades - a rear window wiper (finally!), increased range, and even better instruments. And let's talk design: the Ioniq 5 looks like something different and unique, a real head-turner compared to the cookie-cutter Chinese/Tesla soap bar look. I mean, who wants to drive a bar of soap? And don’t get me started on the interiors. With the Ioniq 5, you get a heads-up display (HUD), so all your speed and navigation info is right in front of you. No more looking down and to the right - honestly, whose idea was that? The HUD is not just convenient, it's safer and way more relaxing. Sure, Tesla has more power and range, but let's be real here. Most cars today offer more than enough power to get you into trouble with speeding tickets. Whether my car goes 0-100 km/h in 2-3 or 5 seconds, the only real difference is how soon I'll need new tires! Some folks buy a Tesla just to keep up with the neighbors, and that's fine if it makes them happy. But for me, the Ioniq 5 is where it’s at. It’s got style, it’s got comfort, and it’s got everything you need without the extra fuss. Cheers to those who see the charm in something different!

[@clasqm]

11. You're just buying a car, not joining a fanatical cult.

[@mattplaschka1873]

Most of the features highlighted are only available with the top trim level.

[@randyrice1429]

I own an Ioniq 5. Personally, I think it is MUCH better looking inside and out. I have gotten so many adoring stares and comments on this car. Tesla is so boring looking both inside and out that they rarely get noticed. I love my Ioniq 5 like no car I have ever had.

[@BigMaxGames]

I'm getting my Ioniq 5 in late December...I can hardly wait

[@bassistdc]

I will be buying an Ioniq 5 or VW ID.4 this spring. I have no interest in a Tesla.

[@tinioespinal]

I'd definitely buy an Ioniq 5. I love it.

[@bluetoad2668]

How well do you think the car is going to be supported? How well proven is the technology? How many of these cars are going to be driving around?

[@janisb.9986]

@@bluetoad2668 They are building EVs since 2016, if I am not mistaken, quite popular in Europe

[@bagofholding]

There is a single electrify america charger in the entire state of Minnesota. Any company offering free miles or charging from them would be pretty much worthless for me.

[@joemartin9706]

We'll have to chk for local chargers B4 I buy (after supply chain nitemare is over).

[@adam964]

A dealership network. If you live outside of a major metro area, it's hard to come by Tesla dealers and service facilities. Not saying dealerships are great, but they can be handy to have nearby for warranty work and if you're looking to trade in your current vehicle. Trade in values that Tesla offers is a difficult pill to swallow.

[@Cyberbeesty]

I like the Ioniq 5, not able to buy in Virginia. What are the wait time for delivery???

[@Marc-cz9hj]

I was debating getting an aftermarket instrument cluster for my Model Y, but the speed is right on the top left. It really isn’t needed.

[@stevesears7081]

I have plans to buy the Hyundai Ioniq 5 as soon as it becomes available here in the Philadelphia Area. I've added my information to the Hyundai web site relative to the Ioniq 5 and now waiting for when & where available information. We currently have a Toyota Prius Prime Hybrid Plugin and are very happy with it's performance, but were ready for this Ioniq 5!

[@yuryalaverdyan6315]

Looks like a great car with lots of great features and positive reviews. One issue I’ve heard about was a thermal throttling, when due to such fast charging you do not get the total power back for quite a while. This is a turn off for me, tbh. Could you please comment? Thank you, Yury

[@rushja]

I think Bjorn explained it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6C6doeIobh2pcU

[@MrJeffreyTSanford]

Bought a Limited IONIQ 5. Tesla was just too low to the ground for this old man...

[@SirHackaL0t.]

My Model 3 wants to have it’s battery pack at about 52C for rapid charging. For driving it likes 31C.

[@b3arwithm3]

These extra features are not often used so it wont tip the scale.

[@AlainGirard-im4nz]

Hello !! can you tell me if the 2 years ; 30 minutes of free charge is also available in CAnada, Québec,? if not, WHY ? and, We are still waiting for our ioniq 5. it is now one year we order it. thank you

[@KineticEV]

The ion 5 and en the EV6 are on my short list of EVs to buy in 2022. But I'm most interested in a Model Y because compared to the Ioniq 5 it has a more minimalistic look I'm going for. I think V2L would be great for camping if I wanted to plug in a couple items but since the Model Y has a 12vDC outlet in the trunk area I'm wondering if I can achieve similarly with an inverter. I have one I've used in my current ICE car and it works great to power sone things. I think both of these cars are great but that Model Y, for me at least, still edges out the Ioniq 5 slightly.

[@dkositsky]

I want to know how efficient is it co.pared to the y and the new Kia. I also want to know more about its battery pack and what kind of battery degradation we can expect. The problem with these cars is our lack of real understanding about the quality of the components these manufacturers put into these vehicles. It would helpful for the ev information y tubers to dig a little deeper and discuss such engineering design decisions and any Inovations which have gone into these new evs. I would appreciate to find out what does the first true ground up designed Hyundai get me the consumer; more efficiency, longer range, better power management which might enable longer battery life and minimize degradation. Lets start talking about the true benefits of the new evs and what makes them stand out from others. We should be finding out if their motors are efficient, well made and designed with less weight than peers. We also need to find out if the components will be long lived and not be designed to break down. As less expensive options become available from manufacturers from China, we need to know if not only are they well made but if they will hold up. I want to know if the design is good and is well made.

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

🤗👍THANKS JONATHAN FOR SHARING….all good features 😎😍😍😍

[@laloajuria4678]

carplay/android and retractable shade are the 2 i care about.

[@Cleanerwatt]

Very nice!

[@ChristianPryds]

You can preheat for cool car remotely?

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Do you have both phone formats??

[@laloajuria4678]

@@rogerstarkey5390 yes.

[@normmarsh881]

I luv this car even though I don’t have one I hope to get one

[@CSIG1001]

the new ioniq 5 has rear view camera system and works great,

[@flolou8496]

We all need an update on how many Tesla 250KW and above charging station's the 2022 IONIQ 5 and 2022 KIA EV6 are able to tap into and take advantage of: For example isn't the number of TESLA charging station's allowing this in July of 2024, limited to those that have the special Majic Dock adaptor upgrades?

[@RuneVenes]

I wonder how that Norwegian Ioniq 5 ended up on those roads... (its not in Norway)

[@bryandavies6074]

You'll get more power on V2L in Europe as we don't suffer from 120v domestic power supplies. You'll find the availability of Tesla chargers much more 'hit and miss' in Europe than the USA - so in some areas they're no big advantage. Tesla's service network is sparse in places too. What's the Hyundai warranty in the USA? Over here it totally spanks the Tesla one,

[@martik778]

Variable and auto regen settings on the ioniq 5

[@antonstayduhar8748]

The large majority of features discussed here only pertain to higher I5 trim models, and not the SE or AWD SE for that matter. A bit misleading. I bought (not leased) my SE AWD last week here in NY and was told the car is NOT elegible for that $7500 rebate touted here.

[@DiscoveryOwners]

I have a Tesla MY on order, estimated delivery November. The I5 Limited is tempting. With the tax credit, about $12,500 less. In addition to the points you mentioned, the I5 Limited also has an upgraded equivalent to Ford BlueCruise, rear cross traffic alert/assist, forward cross traffic alert/assist and left turn into oncoming traffic alert/assist. Of course, time will tell how well these features work. I have a 2018 Kia and LKA is terrible. And, I have seen plenty of YT videos where Tesla didn’t even attempt to stop to avoid running into someone. However, Tesla has a proven records of software updates vs zero for my Kia. OTOH, H/K dealers are everywhere should I need service. If Tesla included FSD as standard, it would be a no brained for me. However, unless Tesla offers a MY SR, maybe with LFP batteries and at a $10k lesser price, I will most likely get the I5. ALSO NOTE, the 2023 I5 should also have V2G capability, something VW also announced will be available next year via OTA upgrade on all their existing ID.3 and ID.4. It appears that Tesla is really falling behind its competitors on MANY fronts important to us buyers.

[@joscaca]

Nobody gives a shit about V2G.

[@andreb.8266]

The biggest trouble with the Ioniq 5 is the fact its amost impossible to purchase... Presently the production is mostly for Korea, to have one here you need to wait one year in the best case.

[@wielliewoe]

you forgot about the center console that slides back and completely out of the way.

[@rodneylwright7341]

What about its safety?

[@ViperVisor]

Didn't know about the 2 years free charge sessions.

[@GuusKlaas]

Man it's surprising just how difference Tesla and other EV's can be on the other side of the pond. Here in Europe, Tesla ánd other brands use the same CCS-Type2 combo connector, and here in The Netherlands Tesla superchargers are open to non-Tesla cars (while Tesla also added other networks to their super charging network/navigation map). It really makes EV's so much more viable. It also improves Tesla. While you could argue it removes a bit of a competition element, in the end, I doubt anyone's waiting for 8 different charging infrastructures. Plugging in a Ioniq next to a Model-Y on a Fastned charger (350kW) does mean the station itself might balance though in some locations :D - I think the "everything is 3 phase 240v" power infrastructure of Europe makes a large difference as well though for destination charging. Still: I recently had to order a new car, and I gave all brands a fair shot. Including Tesla. As a 2 meter tall person though, I could fit comfy in Tesla, but the drive and tech in the Ioniq was just leagues ahead for Hyundai (tested Hyundai, VW, Kia, Tesla, Ford Mustang, Polestar, Skoda).

[@DiscoveryOwners]

ADAS is a big thing with me. From other YT actual drives, this seems lacking a bit on Hyundai. Active LKA on my Kia is terrible and Kia refuses to fix. OTOH, Tesla service is 50 miles away. I would probably choose the Genesis variant as it has power steering wheel and nicer interior and doesn’t carry as much the low class stigma of Hyundai/Kia.

[@gimmieboy]

The last time I tried to look for Ionics they weren't selling in my state. I hope they expand to all states.

[@Cleanerwatt]

They are starting out with a limited number at first, but I read that they will be expanding in 2022!

[@gimmieboy]

@@Cleanerwatt another reason I'll be sticking with Tesla.

[@ZeusBullyMax]

@@gimmieboy There will be enough room four any competitive BEV in the marketplace. I drive a Lexus but I don’t hate Mercedes.

[@gimmieboy]

@@ZeusBullyMax did you misread? I never said hate. I said I wanted one but they don't sell them here. Reread

[@ZeusBullyMax]

@@gimmieboy Sorry my bad

[@j.tamburello4053]

The model Y is eligible for the tax credit because it is made in the USA. The Ionic 5 is NOT but Hyundai takes $7.500 off the list price to compete with the Y and other similar EVs.

[@Alcott-jn7gb]

Hello I appreciate your fine tuned real reviews. This was one of the best Can you test the new VW Golf R for us please, your opinion is very important and trusted

[@keldbrodthagen618]

You should have mentioned that the Ioniq 5 has the suspension that the model Y is missing.

[@frecklesx20]

Yes I would purchase ionic 5

[@bluetoad2668]

That's right.... support US manufacturing.

[@UnipornFrumm]

does it have a fronk?

[@Cleanerwatt]

Yes, but it is a little small ( little less than 1 cubic foot of space).

[@daviddenley3512]

It's a lovely car, erm....are the batteries safe yet?

[@eugeniustheodidactus8890]

The Ioniq5 looks great... *thanks for the information!*. Hyundai typically provides a great warranty as well but not about price and range. If I don't buy the cyber truck, I may be interested in this Ioniq5.

[@JVoltCUAF]

i have been thinking of the Ioniq5 or the ev6 have you been able to look at the two of them side by side and work a comparision?

[@Dogman3690]

Wow! With the great features and tax credit it a deal for most people my hope for tank truck will be a long wait!🤔

[@SirHackaL0t.]

AA and ACP is a get out of making a UI ticket.

[@DurbaNiteShark]

Tesla network is open to other cars now in The Netherlands - or at least it is being beta tested at 10 locations.

[@mramosotero]

2 matte color finishes for the ioniq 5

[@RussInGA]

where are there 800v charging stations? cant get that speed without 'em

[@janisb.9986]

It functions on ordinary 400 chargers with high speed, it has a built-in transformer or smth., so it does not need a 800 v charger to charge.

[@RussInGA]

@@janisb.9986 that is going to affect how many KW of energy can be pulled from the charger. The xformer actually introduces another inefficiency. You cannot charge at a rate faster than the charger can deliver the juice. It does sound like it probably charges well compared to many.. they 800v just isnt the big boost it is made to sound like. It does mean more batteries in parallel so charging will be quicker if you can get the full amount of juice. Like others have said I'd like to see it's 10% +200 miles range charge time. These other times dont mean much.

[@honsinglee4805]

@@RussInGA for the same 400V charger (e.g. 150kW), it can delivery faster to the ioniq 5 because the car's internal inverter will step up the 400V to 800V and along the way, reduce heat while charging. with less heat, the high charge rate can be maintained longer, hence shortening the charging time.

[@RussInGA]

@@honsinglee4805 perhaps.. other paths to this as well (4680 tabless cells?) anything that allows the charge curve to taper slower will be helpful. I am interested in more numbers on it as they become available. I^2R is a rough thing and less I going into the battery does seem helpful.

[@honsinglee4805]

@@RussInGA the main culprit is still heat. with cylindrical cell design, heat dissipation (especially at the core) is weak. future battery cells should not be in cylindrical form.

[@wielliewoe]

Also, you can see out of the back window vs Teslas Y that you almost can't see. Mention how hard and uncomfortable the suspension is of the Tesla Y model, or how everyone is complaining about how bad the service department/customer service is. The Tesla is faster and longer range. Everything else from the ionic is superior to Tesla Y and if something goes wrong, Hyundai is all over the country ready to help. Although Tesla has more charging stations, they don't have great many service departments. Better hope nothing goes wrong with the Tesla :)

[@jazzfan7491]

I cannot believe that Tesla does not offer Apple CarPlay. Dealbreaker.

[@jamesalther184]

I would purchase an ionic 5 if the price is the right price

[@steinareliassen385]

This may be different in Europe and the US, but here, the Model Y has a max carrying capacity of 315kg (excluding a "75kg driver") This is ridiculously low. Compared to several cars, even the Ioniq 5 has a low number, but it is still over 100kg more than the Model Y, the Ioniq 5 can carry 445kg (pluss the "average 75kg driver") This disqualifies the Model Y for us and many others. This is something I feel should be talked about a lot more in reviews of the cars. Of Tesla cars, only the Model X has a good carry capacity. Even the Model S, a LARGE car, has max 329kg... Quite absurd.

[@steinareliassen385]

@Adam Davis Uhm, you are aware that passengers tend to weigh something? It is an SUV. Put 5 adults in the car and your risk being over the weight limit.

[@johnpoldo8817]

This looks like a great EV and better than VW iD.4 and Polestar. Those 8 features not found in Tesla are impressive. But now tell us what features Tesla mY has over Hyundai Ioniq 5.

[@bluetoad2668]

ID and Pole 🌟 , low bar

[@johnpoldo8817]

@@bluetoad2668 Agree, VW is a low bar but listen to Alex at E for Electric for very high praise for iD4 as an owner and Tesla avoider. Strangely, Norway is buying a lot of these as well as much of EU. VW EV will be cheap when TN plant produces it with govt credits. But I’m a 2-time Tesla fanboy.

[@brandoYT]

Good luck finding chargers - and ones that work when you need it. I'll want to see review by owner of Model Y to compare to this Hyundai Ioniq. 1,000 mile trip comparison ??

[@adam964]

The EA network is improving at a steady pace, and so is their reliability. While not as good as the supercharger network, it's manageable at this point. Besides, most people will be charging at home 90% of the time anyways, and Tesla does not hold any advantage there.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

@@adam964 There was a test run about 2 weeks ago(?) The Big Mach had MAJOR charging problems and ended of 6 hours behind. So, no, it's not "manageable at this point"

[@steinareliassen385]

I have been driving my lill "short range" BMW i3 around Europe. I am sure the Ioniq 5 with it's long range will give no problems at all...

[@fredbloggs5902]

Great analysis, thanks. The HUD display is nice, but it means Hyundai are investing R&D into something that will be rendered totally obsolete by FSD. The smart tailgate is nice. Fully reclining seats aren’t compelling. Sun shade is nice.

[@kghornsten]

Thanks. This one I am checking on, especially with the rebate. I need something cheaper. Lower income me, and all.

[@boatthere867]

im still waiting for the 25k tesla car

[@fredbloggs5902]

2023

[@dVb9]

@@fredbloggs5902 What's that in Elon time?

[@fredbloggs5902]

@@dVb9 last week

[@marjanbatic2913]

Very well presented video. Well done sir👍

[@antonstayduhar8748]

I disagree. He misleads by not mentioning most of the features ONLY pertain to the Limited and SEL trim levels. Not cool. Why? Additionally, my I5 was NOT ELEGIBLE for the tax rebate, just purchased on April 4, 2023.

[@spleck615]

Take another look at the charge math. While charging to 80% takes longer, you’re comparing apples to oranges. If the Ioniq5 can charge to 180 miles in 18 minutes on a 250+ charger, how long to add 180 miles to the model Y on v3 250+? 55% should take about 16 minutes based off published charge curves widely available and verified. 18 minutes is longer than 16 minutes to add 180 miles. I love Hyundai but it doesn’t charge faster for real world use. It’s very good, but not faster.

[@johnpoldo8817]

I think you are correct. This is why I do not like vendors quoting a 10-80% charge time. 80% of what? A much better measure is how long does it take to achieve 100, 200, or 300 miles from a low state of charge.

[@spleck615]

@@johnpoldo8817 correct. 200mi is the sweet spot for general use. That’s 80% on a taycan or standard range Tesla, and 60% on a long range Tesla. I guess it would be 85% on the Ioniq 5? Apples to apples. Miles to miles.

[@bluetoad2668]

Also....most charging is at home.

[@spleck615]

@@bluetoad2668 for some. Can’t presume for everyone but yes that goes to the real world usage. Top up at home or at destination/overnight. For the road trip 150-200 miles gets you from charger to charger optimally. Charging higher is usually going to slow you down significantly.

[@jbutta5486]

I’ll still pick model y over Ioniq 5. Infotainment system, supercharger reliability, more range & FSD makes up for everything. Aftermarket power liftgate can also be added too.

[@bluetoad2668]

I think you are absolutely correct.

[@joemartin9706]

@@bluetoad2668 Gotta have my HUD!

[@samprashernandez9676]

Yes !!

[@ramdanelimam7620]

J ai une ioniq5 2022 , ca dépasser toutes mes attentes

[@hoado8711]

The table has flipped. Now tesla qualifies for the 7500 rebate but not hyundai

[@freevlad1]

one more feature of hyundai is actual quality, not the cheap crap Tesla is.

[@MM-bw1lo]

How is this a Hyundai video but all he’s talking about is Telsa… now lemme go watch an actual video about this car

[@RW-ur7ym]

Maybe because it’s a comparison to the model Y!

[@MM-bw1lo]

@@RW-ur7ym Maybe because it doesn't say anything about being a comparison video and actually states it's about the Hyundai Ioniq 5

[@rogerstarkey5390]

But based on EPA range (I know!🙄) The 10- 80% added to the Hyundai gives a total of 457 miles. The Tesla would only need 133 miles added for the same total? Assuming the pack charges faster at the start of the cycle, that would put the required time at, or better than the Hyundai?

[@ricric9521]

Some states still have incentives for Tesla's like California's Clean Vehicle Rebate Project $2k rebate. Also since the Ioniq 5 are sold at dealerships, you are seeing large mark ups of around $2k. I have the Model 3 and love it. Of these, I would like the roof glass shade and charging from the Model 3 "to load" and AC power source. Heads up display is gimmicky and a nuisance to me. I never have an issue noting my speed from the large Tesla display. The others like the ventilated seats are cost saving items rather than design features.

[@KsNoz]

I have the feeling that every new ev that comes out is better than the tesla counterpart! Sure some of them arent that quick, but to be honest, who cares about a 3.5 or 5.5 sec. 0 - 60? all evs are damn quick even a Renault zoe! The superchargers are a good point but only for people who travel a lot! For Ev owners who mostly charge at home and go on a holiday trip once a year the supercharger network doesent even matter really! So the both strongest arguments for a tesla dont even count for most people, why would you choose a Model Y or 3 over an Ioniq 5 or an EV6, or an ID3/ID4? Why would you choose a Model S over an Audi E-tron GT or a Taycan? Could you maybe make a comparison the other way around to see why Tesla is still worth the Money? And as long as FSD is not ready its no "point for Tesla" imho

[@MrFoxRobert]

9 Feature: beeping all the time

[@tyslife1798]

no i hope they dont open it to other ev brands we already have overcrowding in some ares

[@BERNIEO4]

Ioniq 5 all the way 🤓🤓🤓

[@GET2222]

That battery will be dead in a few years.

[@jmmartian6139]

Recharge it to make it alive😂

[@seanholdom9739]

blind spot on indicators

[@jonathansmith7306]

Hopefully the performance isn't as pathetic as Audi e-tron

[@Cleanerwatt]

We should know about the IONIQ 5 N (performance version) in the near future... I believe it will be able to do a 0-60 mph in around 3.5 sec.

[@ZeusBullyMax]

@@Cleanerwatt Is the performance version the dual motor? If it is it’s 5.2. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/goCVY6KkhK-VY6M

[@ardenthebibliophile]

You take SO long to get to the point. I stopped after 5min.

[@brillsmith2207]

y too expensive compare to model 3 same price

[@TheElectricMan]

Hyundai IONIQ 5 is good but not as good