8-Bit Unboxing October 2017

[@shadownavi64]

Love that warning label on the TRS-80 box. Do not drop or CRT might implode!

[@obsoletegeek]

I need that SID shirt.

[@The8BitGuy]

Well, you know where to find one!

[@theallknowingsause8940]

SMELL THAT CHEESE!!!

[@xaultronicmedia3100]

I want one so bad!

[@ProbeGT2]

It'd be nice of you review those odissey together!

[@eb2588]

Lol rob

[@thisisaloadofbarnacles921]

I like how the 8-Bit Guy deals with mostly retro computers ('70-'80), LGR deals with newer old computers ('80-'90) and older games, and Techmoan deals with older video/audio formats and dashcams. All different things but each does there thing so well!

[@TheRealColBosch]

Add in Big Clive, and you've got my tech quartet.

[@AnalogX64]

I watch all those mentioned and Big Clive :)

[@jet-it9cr]

Haha, and you got Druaga1 installing SSDs in everything he can get his hands on, and Danooct1 who deals in DOS, WIN9x and sometimes Win32 viruses

[@TheMorc]

and Phil's Computer Lab with retro PC gaming

[@jet-it9cr]

Then RandomGamingInHD and BudgetBuildsOfficial for budget graphics cards (usually old ones)

[@xyzshantaram]

2:25 This is why I love this guy. He's so smart, yet so humble and down-to-earth. Keep being you man, I've been with you since you were at 100k subs and I hope to be with you till a million and beyond. Talent and creativity is always recognized, so don't let anyone get you down!

[@JoRosieQueen68]

9:51 isn't it funny how those cartriges look a bit like floppy disks,in term of the design,you know,because they seem to have a similar design when it comes to that metal part,while on the floppy that part is made of metal,here on the cartrige it's just scoulped,yet it so cute to see...that was just me nit picking for fun.

[@iVTECInside]

To fix the hole in the case, use a hole saw to cut out a similar sized piece of plastic from something disposable. That way you can fill the majority of the hole easy. Epoxy it in from the underside. Bondo or plastic fill for the top surface should give you a flush surface, then a little spray paint and you'll have to look really close to see it.

[@kycounterstrike]

You're a genius

[@USWaterRockets]

I thought the cat was going to turn that package into a litter box.

[@bombtwenty3867]

After dropping the cat in that box, the cat will use his bed as a litter tray. REVENGE!

[@emmettturner9452]

My brother said the same thing out loud when he watched with me. :)

[@refraggedbean]

mew

[@vaultboy8309]

USWaterRockets I thought the cat will sick in and drown

[@denvergrady1078]

Pro trick: watch movies on Flixzone. Been using them for watching loads of movies these days.

[@LuisMorales-xv7yy]

That cat was like "da hell hooman?" best part of the video, cheers.

[@NS-SNES]

i've been a fan for a long while, and i gotta say it's so endearing to watch you grow SO much over the last year. now you've got fans sending you all these wonderful things that you'll no doubt use to teach us all about our favorite era of tech, and it's so great to see!

[@Michael500ca]

Clint must have been a cat in a previous life.

[@HighCPU]

maybe you're getting so much odyssey stuff because super mario odyssey just came out

[@ItsHyomoto]

LOL

[@Jack-hx8yz]

What a coincidence!

[@ItsHyomoto]

Jack_Cydia extra points for using the proper term. KZbin is preventing me from giving you all the likes but you deserve them.

[@treedeblue]

Is the new Mario a good game???

[@IbakonFerba]

John Paul Gabriel Zuluaga It is *really* good! If you have a Switch, get it! Heck, if you don't have a Switch, get a Switch! ;)

[@MicahTheManiac]

Seeing the cat in the packing peanuts made my day, my cat that I have had for 14 years died today, but the cat in the video made me smile. :)

[@ghostdog688]

MicahTheManiac sorry to hear that buddy. Glad something managed to help you out.

[@maicod]

so sad to hear that

[@TheMorc]

Sad to hear. My little kitten (2/3~ months) got hit by car today..

[@andrewhamop6665]

R.I.P 14year cat/2/3 month kitten. My 18 year old cat died last week. R.I.P Sweet felines! :I

[@darlahoy9085]

MicahTheManiac im sorry for your loss

[@DavidAStephenson]

Hi David, The Lambda 8300 is a near Sinclair ZX81 Compatible / Clone made in Hong Kong. For full ZX81 comparability the ROM can be replaced.

[@flobbablopp630]

But the Lambda got some cool extra characters in the character set! :)

[@EVRLYNMedia]

that indigo pcb board that came with the built it yourself kit looks beautiful

[@IvanNOFX]

Plus one! Also, that Panasonic word processor keyboard was slick!

[@ShyVioletIsShy]

One of the most beautiful colors I've ever seen, really!

[@greenaum]

Indigo is blue. The board is purple, probably from OSHPark.

[@EVRLYNMedia]

greenaum indigo is blue and purple, somewhat. it's closer to purple though

[@greenaum]

No, indigo is blue. It's the colour in a rainbow that most people would call "blue", but for some reason the "blue" in rainbows is actually cyan. Indigo dye, from the plant, is blue. #0000FF pretty much. It's really not purple.

[@cheapspace]

Your community really shows how much they want you to succeed. Their generosity is proven right here in this video.

[@PixelBrushArt]

3:15 "A nice addition to my collection." -General Grievous, Star Wars

[@lukasaey]

I knew i was not the only one

[@thomaspleacher2735]

I don't know why it's so much fun watching my favorite you tubers who talk about old technology unbox free stuff from their viewers.

[@DanielBartholomew]

I have many happy memories of playing the Odyssey 2, especially Quest for the Rings, which had a cool overlay for the keyboard. Looking forward to your future video on it and the original Odyssey!

[@The8BitGuy]

Me too. I'm not sure if either of them work yet. And I'm going to need to do a ton of research on these consoles.

[@simontay4851]

A LOT of research. Not a ton.

[@Jack-hx8yz]

Super Mario Odyssey

[@MrPGT]

Well, in that case, while you are researching, you should look at Philips Videopac as it seems to be the same system. Philips Videopac was the European version of this system. As far as I remember, it seems to be more of a console than a home computer, even though it had a keyboard. I could be mistaken though, as I didn't have much contact with these cool looking machines aside from a demo model in a nearby store.

[@777jones]

The submarine/airplane game was the best.

[@crazinessisme]

It makes me happy when AvE leaks out in to the rest of the world. Squints at the ready.

[@DexterKDC]

Still have a Lightscribe (Print Un-impressive disk label/design with a laser inside the drive) capable DVD burner from 2010, came with the HP Prebuilt Desktop tower but never used that feature, today its just been reuse as a DVD reader in my Storage Server as may main desktop does not have a 5.25 bay...

[@pologamero2648]

Dexter I remembered there was 2 system, one with gold/brown disks and one with blue disks, I had a notebook with the blue disks, its worked but you needed a lot of patience! I remember there was some words about color printing system but I asume all the disk system died long before it was ready and relevant.

[@AurelTristen]

Oh yeah? I have an HD-DVD Lightscribe drive! I even have one movie on HD-DVD somewhere. All of these things were a disappointment... :(

[@DexterKDC]

Polo Gamero when i tried it last time with a blue disk sure it worked, but....the result of the “print” was disapointing...

[@okaro6595]

I had one but it broke and they exchanged it to a new for warranty and I only later realized that it was not Lightscribe. Well I never used the function anyway.

[@joellagerquist1791]

The price of blank lightscribe disks has gone up quite a bit. They used to cost about 50 cents. When I last bought some they were about $1.80. I think this is because HP dropped support of the system. Too bad it was a great way to label disks.

[@ChrissehCat]

I love watching your videos, I learn so much stuff about old computers and early gaming consoles, which is something I've always had a fascination with, as well as restorations and repairs. Keep being awesome!

[@grummpyyounggeek]

1:30 - "Looks like a Packard Bell with all the branding removed". Close, it's a Compaq ProLinea 5100. I spent the best parts of my childhood upgrading that machine before selling it on. Even the monitor is the same as the one bundled with my machine...

[@vwestlife]

The PC on the Pilot box is a Compaq Prolinea.

[@demoscenes]

Awesome! You're forgiven since you're definitely NOT lazy, you're one heck of a creative dude! :) Thanks for all the content and can't wait to see what's next.

[@Breakfast_and_Bullets]

HOLY CRAP! We had a dead TRS-80 Model 1 in the computer lab at my high school (more or less for decoration), and I always wanted to revive it and play with it. Very much looking forward to a video on that!

[@therealDannyVasquez]

4:54 😺 Meow to you too, Macie Miller

[@cruststuffer3052]

Danny Vasquez gayy

[@jigglypuff52]

Macie is fluffy and and adorable.

[@memmoman]

Danny Vasquez ä

[@josephdoesmore8922]

Terrible handwriting woof

[@blackterminal]

I loved the cat interlude. You need to bring in your co star more often.

[@OppositionTyranny]

We love u man

[@cruststuffer3052]

Toxin no

[@clays32]

gey

[@cruststuffer3052]

Patrick Flanagan youre moms gey

[@clays32]

kek

[@matthewsorensen4303]

how does that work?

[@grantwagner6781]

I'm watch this while sitting in the current Bell & Howell office. I would love a Darth Vader Apple II. Originally these were used for early document processing and industrial automation tasks, so they would live in some pretty harsh factory conditions.

[@ThatCrazyMechanic]

i cant wait for the og odyssey and og apple computer videos

[@summerlaverdure]

that coat letter, like with the handwriting and the cat all, it's just adorable

[@jaydeniemuth9366]

WHOA!!!! THE VADER APPLE II!!!!!! Really looking forward to that video.

[@Guitarhero1000]

The cat scene made me laugh too frigging hard. Anyway, GREAT job as always! I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL!!!

[@N3tech]

Enage safety squints? Man, AvE is everywhere... rightfully so too.

[@808v1]

treat especialle!

[@yakkmeister]

AvE's a Skukum choocher, all right!

[@nonyabizz9390]

9:45 A Socrates! I'm excited and thrilled! I had one as a kid, so I'm excited to see if you do a video on it. The funny this is just a month or so ago I looked up the Socrates on KZbin for the very first time, saw a video or two, and thought "wow, it would be great if someone sent one to the 8-bit guy!" And, well, now someone has! I remember having the most fun with the art program.

[@pvc988]

1:30 That's not Packard Bell, that's Compaq Prolinea 5xxx. I have one right next to me. It should have red COMPAQ logo on the left side but they removed it.

[@itsD15]

pvc he said "it looks like a packard bell"

[@samuelholmes3696]

Hi David! I remember the "Early Learning Fun" TI/99 cartridge! We had one of these because my sister and I were still quite young when my dad got his computer. We loved it! I really enjoy your videos!

[@lorrainestevens4295]

That TRS-80 is camera shy.

[@codegamer933]

THANK YOU for this video. I briefly had a Socrates when I was real young, and could not for the life of me remember what that thing was called. I saw it here and immediately searched for other videos on youtube and when someone loaded up a music playing game, I knew that's what it was! You put my mind at rest over figuring out a weird game thing I played when I was at most 4 years old.

[@billmyke746]

All those Commodore manuals... This one is going to be flagged for pornographic content.

[@Fortuna1]

C64, Amiga, all this is good and really sexy watch

[@jusb1066]

the c64 book with the white binder, was the one i got with my c64 1985 christmas day! lol, with 3 games, collosal adventure, purple turtles and i think one of the 1.99 games, bmx racer, boy was i excited! i had been looking at the c64 in dixons all year doing, and writing basic and rude words on the screen and leaving it run, lol

[@billmyke746]

Jusb1066 Got my 64 in '85 as well. Good memories, I had BMX racer too. Nice!

[@greenaum]

The modern equivalent is leaving tablets tuned into Veronica Moser videos in PC World.

[@tomimantyla8236]

That is Basic 2000! My very first computer. Apparently, it has many names like Lambda 8300. As I much much later found out, it was ZX-81 clone.

[@colonelgraff9198]

Thank you 8-box guy

[@darlahoy9085]

Colonel Graff its the 8 bit guy not the 8 box guy

[@darlahoy9085]

Shidou :3 M8 shut the hell up

[@matthewsorensen4303]

lol like that's going to shut my mouth

[@darlahoy9085]

Shidou :3 FUCK OFF HOW BOUT DAT

[@matthewsorensen4303]

lol better

[@EyeShotFirst]

I just gotta say, keep up what you're doing. Honestly, if someone told me one of my favorite channels would be a guy who cleans and restores old tech, I wouldn't have believed it. But hours of viewing later, I'm hungry for more.

[@AmyraCarter]

Cool stuff! That Odyssey is one innovative machine. :)

[@mathewdempsey16]

An episode on the ZX-81 would be cool! I'm only 20, but that's the first computer I ever programmed on because my dad had one and thought I might enjoy it! Now I'm majoring in Computer Science at Penn State, so that computer really means a lot to me

[@iCarlyfan4534]

*ALL YOU HAD TO WAS FOLLOW THE DAMN COMMODORE 64 CJ*

[@surrodox]

Austism yeah

[@terrykennedy7422]

Was I the only person that could and still can complete that mission first go?

[@Povilaz]

@@terrykennedy7422 Nope, I completed that mission in 2 attempts when I originally played it and then in 1 attempt on PC around a year ago!

[@marquiis]

I like the donation at 5:45, it's a really cool hardware with a great historical significance.

[@DasGanon]

November Unboxing: "Oh look, another TRS model 4! And this one is the portable one! This is the 8th one this month. I guess I should mention that the portable has a better picture, since the resolution is the same bit the screen is smaller? Still thanks!"

[@ShamblerDK]

The one you got at 6:35 is a Lambda 8300 from Hong Kong, China. It's a clone of the Sinclair ZX81 and it was my very first computer. I have vivid memories of it from the mid-80s :-)

[@brickman409]

That Odyssey 2 box was basically ruined by shipping it like that :/

[@patthenescuck6799]

had to scroll through 100 cat comments b4 I found someone finally mentioning this. RIP Odyssey box

[@brickman409]

Bruh, I thought you were Pat the NES Punk for a second there and you got me all excited.

[@Horzuhammer]

I had that ZX-81 clone at 6:41 as a kid, altough here it was called Basic 2000. That port above the others seems to be some kind of a custom job. Never seen it before.

[@ElectricNikkiGames]

i get an 8-bit guy video on my birthday, yay

[@Chaos89P]

Obviously it was a happy one.

[@darlahoy9085]

Kaymai happy late birthday last year an everythingapplepro video was made on my bday

[@kencramer1697]

I keep seeing little bits and pieces of the TI 99 stuff and it keeps me hopeful to see one in an upcoming episode. :) I am so happy that all my old TI stuff found a good home. :)

[@forthwithtx5852]

4:59: Meow. Serious LOL!! Macie is 9?

[@forthwithtx5852]

I was on a forum where the receiver said he acquired a rifle packed in used kitty litter. The sender said that was how he disposed of it for many years.... Like, ewww!

[@ToriRocksAmos]

lol indeed

[@762rk95tp]

Could be a furry.

[@AwesomeGames56]

Yes! NASCAR 99!! That game brings back so many memories. It was literally one of the only games I would play back in the day, I’ve since graduated to the Forza Motorsport/Horizon series of games. If you have the chance you should give it a go.

[@Poki3]

There must be some reason for that ugly fan and I wonder what. Was the computer overheating? If so, why? If it wasn't designed with a fan it shouldn't have overheating problems.

[@JGreen-le8xx]

Poki#3 I wonder if it was operating in a very hot room or one with very poor air circulation.

[@thegouldfish]

Looks like lots of additions to that machine and with no room inside the case for the fan either.

[@zorinlynx]

The original Apple II ran quite warm. If it was full of add-on cards even more so. Kensington's first ever product, in fact, was a fan that would attach to the vent slots on the left side called a "System Saver". The system saver came out before the "Darth Vader" II did though; too bad whoever modified this computer didn't learn about it first!

[@mspysu79]

Nice set of donations! A quick tip on the Odyssey 1, the cartridges do rewire the internals of the console, but there is nothing preset, it just enables various combinations of generators in the console, it also controls power so when a cartridge is removed the system is off. Magnavox was also quite fast and loose with the sync standards, you may need an older TV to be able to sync to the game, a TV with at least a vertical hold and fine tuning control, one with vertical, horizontal and fine tuning would be even better.

[@LucasTwocas]

I'm only 10 and I know about this stuff from the 80's . Before my time.

[@andrewhamop6665]

my love for tech started with finding a bunch of old cosoles/gb game in my grandma's house. I love old/new tech!!!!!

[@darlahoy9085]

Luke S im only 8 and i know this

[@LucasTwocas]

The fuck did I just start lmao

[@ModellistaCompulsivoOnline]

Probably your most exciting unboxing ever! Thank you so much for sharing with us all that goodies!

[@smeegle]

Haha, You should send the box of packing peanuts to LGR!

[@2004RADMAN]

He did send a box of peanuts to LGR. Real peanuts.

[@FightRayTV]

3:48 - Nice microwave, and it gets the settings from floppy disks too.

[@ayushkaushik8794]

FutureLegend yep he will play doom on it

[@calebmeek1509]

I love that one of the donations came from someone wearing an AvE shirt. I'm surprised that there is much crossover in your fanbase and his.

[@anakondase]

Oh. I had an Odyssey 2, or Philips Videopac G7000 as it was called here in Europe. Got it back in -78 when it came out and I had so much fun with it. Wish I still had it.

[@HappySlappyFace]

David I think that you REALLY need a discord server now

[@MidnightBanshi]

These videos are so much fun, and so much that I remember from back in the day! Thanks for sharing!

[@ValorousFogey]

4:56 meow 🐱

[@SumDumGy]

I'm continuously amazed at the often beautiful condition most of your donations come in.

[@naota3k]

8:29 AvE T-Shart!

[@PhonyBread]

Holy crap, the purple solder mask on that DIY computer PCB is gorgeous!

[@electronash]

Lewis Scott VERY common colour for boards from OSH Park. ;) (maybe the purple dye is cheaper, as a mix of other colours?)

[@bq_xp]

Liked for the cat part

[@PhilXavierSierraJones]

To fill the gap, plug the hole with a similar material that is shaped matched to the hole (Foamex or melamine foam can be used) backed with slightly larger piece, glue it into the place, fill the gap with filler or resin with identical color, then sand it off.

[@gruenkragena.z.4597]

Wat? Microwave with keyboard...

[@ayushkaushik8794]

gruenkragen a.z. yep its for running doom on it.lmfao

[@plunder1956]

Years ago, working in a warehouse, ee had a packing peanut tower dispenser. Wonderful device. Love your cats reaction to them; but dogs go crazy, peanuts everywhere!

[@JsliceQB1026]

I wish people would send me computers from the 80’s. The only one I’ve got is an ibm 5150

[@The8BitGuy]

Well, that's a nice one, still!

[@simontay4851]

But not useful for much today.

[@spartanfoxie]

all I've got is a Macintosh plus and classic and they both don't work lewl

[@JsliceQB1026]

Ben Abbott if you need any spare parts plz let me know

[@JsliceQB1026]

Lennon Craig yes it does. It’s a Mac classic and it fully functions, but it doesn’t have a HD’s or floppy

[@Duke_Togo_G13]

Omg! I forgot about Socrates! My little brother had one! They are comparable to the Leap Frog stuff of today! To restore that Bell and Howell, use fiberglass and bondo to rebuild the missing plastic. You might be able to dye the bondo black when mixing it.

[@MrHack4never]

8:28 skookum shirt

[@MrDuncl]

Regarding Modulators. The standard UK frequency for modulators was Channel 36 as it was between bands 4 and 5 and unallocated for any TV channel. It was originally used for other things like airfield radar so if you lived near an airfield like Filton you would have to adjust up or down to free channel or get an annoying blip every couple of seconds. When Channel 5 launched on Channel 36 they had to pay engineers to go round and readjust everyone's VCR !

[@skytheguy0438]

I being from illinois die inside when people say the s its pronounced ill-i-noy

[@SarahLJP]

As I just posted, It's like fingernails on a chalkboard for me.

[@Lyrabon]

It is dood

[@common_c3nts238]

I am from Indiana, so Illinoisssssssssssssssssssssssssss.

[@5hirtandtieler]

Nmos100 Well unfortunately that's more of an accent / dialect thing than the actual mispronunciation of ill-en-oy ;)

[@benjaminmiddaugh2729]

Not entirely true. It's a French attempt at a Native American word, so it would properly be pronounced il-i-noy or il-i-nwa. (All others are just pretending to be correct.)

[@deathclawplum]

even though i have 3 cats of my own, seeing pigbunny in your videos always brings a smile to my face :3

[@fastjp72]

2:20 Really complaining about peoples names who send you free stuff, come on!

[@RetroCheater81]

he was just pointing out that they were hard to pronounce especially the ones from over seas. I was fully banking on him mispronouncing my name but he actually got it right.

[@kycounterstrike]

He was just kidding around, you know... bringing some life, character, and humor into his video. This guy is super genuine. I cannot imagine him being anything short of "nicest guy in the world." But maybe you were just kidding with your comment :) Peace

[@RamLaska]

9:45 Oh gosh, those 3.5" floppy shaped cartridges! How beautifully anachronistic! 😂

[@fastjp72]

You like to always point out something negative when ever you can, so annoying!

[@kaunioo]

Thank you for a good show and thank you all donators for giving us a lot of entertaining things to look at!

[@TheRealMentat001]

What a haul! Back when I had the time and space for 8-bit collecting I would have loved an Odyssey 1! That TRS-80 I is pretty sweet too. Find an original Commodore PET 2001 with the calculator keyboard and an original 4K Apple II and you'll have the entire 1977 trinity. Love the shirt BTW.

[@TheRedCap]

That section with Pigbunny was HILARIOUS!

[@ata000001]

Interesting. The Magnavox Odyssey 2 was called the Philips Videopac 7000 here in Europe and my friend had one back in the day when they were new, so that's what we used to play with before the VIC-20 and Commodore 64 came around... lots of memories from that thing. I also have a TRS-80 Model 4p (the portable version), but don't have any software or even the OS for it... it did start up when I tried the last time in the 90's, but it is just asking for a system disk... :) We had TRS-80's in high school in the 80's, but my own has been just an "ornament"... :) And even I live in Finland, I have visited Kennedale TX 3 years ago... :) Had my lunch at the Burger Box. :D

[@DOSBoxMom]

"Mr. Duct Tape Package" must have attended the packing seminars I hold for Santa's elves! ;) I tend to use packing tape pretty lavishly myself on eBay packages I'm shipping out, which makes it a bit harder for the buyers to open their packages, but (as part of the overall thorough packing job I generally do) helps the packages to arrive at their destinations safe and sound, which in turn helps with my feedback rating on eBay.

[@RobotPorter]

It always amazes me how generous people can be. And, of course, great video and nice haul.

[@Paulito622]

My parents had an Odyssey gaming console like the one in the video. For the scenes it used the static picture you would place on the TV screen which came in a couple of sizes for 19 inch TVs and 25 inch TVs. They bought it in about 1974 or so and later about 1978 they got me an Odyssey 2 for Christmas.

[@hobbified]

You should show off those 1541 manuals and the depth they go into, they're wonderful. The days when programming a computer was such an integral part of using it that they made sure everyone had the resources to get started.

[@Nabeelco]

Wow, I haven't seen one of those Palms in years! I remember my mom bringing one home from work way back in the day. That one you have must be well before Palm got sued by the Pilot pen company, and started calling them PalmPilot (and then ended up getting sold to 3com as I recall?)

[@sadikovicarmin]

That PCB had the coolest purple-ish color I have ever seen that was cool lol

[@cliz305]

I personally think that handspring visor is a lot more interesting than pilot, because it has a springboard slot, allowing the device to do even more. For example, you can put the camera module or GPS module on it. And they work even today.

[@UpLateGeek]

I love how the Socrates cartridges looked like floppy disks! Just seems so backwards, and yet very cute.

[@johncope8368]

The cat! Really enjoyed this high yield unboxing. Looking forward to your future videos.

[@PabloGaraguso]

Congratulations! I'm looking forward to see the review of your new game. The box looks spot on!

[@jeopardy60611]

I had a TRS-80 Model I as a kid, but mine had the numeric keypad. The one you got does not. I played an Odyssey in a store back in the 70s. When I was at a girlfriend's house, her mother had a word processor similar to one of the ones you got. It sticks out in my mind that I looked at the screen and saw it said "Word Processor Off." I wondered why it would display anything if it was turned off.

[@teacfan1080]

This is why I love the beginning of each month!

[@jimmyolano929]

At end of video: always be yourself, no matter what anybody says! Best regards from Venezuela!

[@Jazz4YourSoul]

9:35 - I also have one of these, with speech module ( I think.. ) But the condition can be a bit poor. I know the drawing pad is pretty much shot.

[@mincrmatt12]

"Do not drop or CRT will *IMPLODE!* " You gotta love the packaging on these older computers.