8 Different Types of Fire - Elden Ring Lore

[@nou9048]

Honestly bro don't worry about rambling. The best part of your content for me is getting home from work, hitting the bong and just listening to your lore

[@pirateskeleton7828]

Fire also represents entropy, the breakdown of order into chaos. Makes sense that the Golden *Order* would oppose it.

[@Rudol_Zeppili]

Entropy is not the measure of disorder, it’s the measure of the distribution of energy levels in an object. In a low entropy object you could have part of the object in this case water, be extremely hot and the other half be cold, here we have high energy levels concentrated in one part of the object and low energy levels in the other half of the object. The second law of thermodynamics states that this type of organization statistically tends to yield into a distribution where the particles have high, medium, and low energy levels scattered all throughout the object (the water), in this case the hot water would have molecules with higher kinetic energy, and so would push against the cold water, this would transfer the energy through kinetic interactions, and also produce fluid flow in the direction of the cold water which would transfer heat, the end product is that the energy is spread.

[@screech5212]

Also because fire is the literal weakness to plants, the literal symbol of the golden order and their source of power.

[@holydiver4988]

"the ancestral spirit's soundtrack" i swear this channel doesnt get enough attention also godskin duo's ost would like to have a word with you

[@TheHonoredMadman]

i completely forgot about that one. extreme heat. does it only play in farum azula?

[@cryptcarts]

@@TheHonoredMadman only the second phase part plays in farum azula

[@rxblessed]

Can’t forget Lichdragon Fortissax

[@qwormuli77]

@@rxblessed A really underrated ost.

[@darkhobo]

At 6:40 you mention the Carians being opposed to the fire guys, but check out the Sword of Night and Flame. The Carians USED to practice fire magic too, and were friendly with the giants. So they might have been friendly to the fire monks at that time. The lore implications for that sword are just so fucked it confuses everything

[@ballisticfish1212]

I imagine it as almost a taboo weapon. Since it’s a legendary piece of carian weaponry, but also has flame properties. The carians shun flame and generally oppose it, but do see it as an option, possibly in a time of great need, hence why the sword is somewhat hidden away. Also perhaps it was made during a time that the carians were more tolerant

[@darkhobo]

@@ballisticfish1212 the more I look into it the more intriguing it is. We know Rennala founds the Carian house, and is a Queen well before she married Radagon and they have children. And yet no matter how far back you look, the Carians are always refered to as a Royal Family. My thinking is Rennala had (at least) a sibling. Someone who would be her heir before she has children with Radagon. And right next to the Stargazer Ruins (which is where Rennala is from) is Castle Sol. My thinking her sibling rocked fire magic and was a "Sun king/queen" to match Rennalas Full Moon queen status. (They died. Killed by Godwyn. Hence Ranni's moon being Dark.)

[@Darth_Bateman]

Aren’t the Carians notorious for being backstabbing opportunists and being friendly when it suits them? Don’t they also casually torture students?

[@rxblessed]

I like the connection between Magma Wyrms and Mt. Gelmir, especially since three Wyrms can be found there: Makar in the ruin strewn precipice, another on the road to Volcano Manor, and a third beneath the Temple of Eiglay

[@tekanmecha2698]

Once I heard that bong rip I knew I had to match with you before continuing the video

[@MrGlath]

To those of you that missed it.. “But there’s fire of every different kind of variety.. there’s frenzied flame, the ghost flame, the ancestral spirit sound track..” this shit is so funny to me 😂

[@davidward134]

man that bong rip halfway thru was amazing, i swear if i could mod, id like make a legendary armament thats a bong, like the trumpet things

[@chance_hollow]

Instant like because I was looking for some new lore and I live in Florida so I live in fire hell as well

[@JesusRojas-wu8nd]

That plus the Regal Ancestor mixtape joke ‼️‼️

[@jaspersims348]

The Ghostflame and the Blackflame feel connected somehow. Not only are they visually identical, but the users of these flames, the Deathbirds and Godskins, all served the function of death before Marika sealed it away. Also worth noting is that some Black Knife Assassins appear to wield the Blackflame as seen in the end of Ranni's quest.

[@Agentlefox]

I took this as evidence of the split of destined death. You have the broken stolen death rune, creating the red-black and black flames, and before the flame was tamed and was used being used by twinbird and their faithful, you have the ghostflame.

[@steamedhamlet]

The black flames on Iji are from the black knife skill. If you use that skill (or corpse wax cutter) on Carian trolls it burns them with the same black flame effect. It's the rune of death on those blades that causes the black flame. The power of destined death sealed away by Maliketh after his defeat of the Gloam eyed queen.

[@zaubergurke5468]

I see you didnt mention St. Trinas torch with some kind of purple-ish sleepflame. As far as i know its the only one of its kind and was wondering what you think about it, as a fellow madman

[@Synistyc]

i believe blackflame and Maliketh’s flame are one in the same, my reasoning? both are black, both have/had the capability to kill gods but the blackflame power was sealed away taking the redness out if it fading it to white, while Maliketh, who had the rune of death (which is red) could wield the blackflame in its original form. and both continue to eat away at your HP

[@steamedhamlet]

Makes sense. And there's a lot of "draining of color" going on in the game. Lotta color theory in general. The black knife's skill ( as a result of the rune of death being etched on it ) looks like the corpse wax cutter skill, the skill of Maliketh's servants' weapons.

[@pustuleofyelough]

There are also Frenzied Ember that lets you create Frenzy Stones

[@ZeroN1neZero]

Liked and subbed for the mid-video bong rip. What a lad.

[@foster2095]

"is that a mausoleum step?" "no.... it's a sonido...."

[@Unyielding_Vortx]

we hit the bong at the same time you earned my sub brotha

[@slicksilver2961]

“Since I live in a fiery wasteland-“ As a California resident, I really felt that

[@nehirrogers-sirin592]

Ur one of the best eldenlore channels I've seen, always hyped when I see a new one

[@swordguy1243]

Have you seen the torch of St. Trina ? The flame is purple and can induce sleep when used as a weapon

[@TheHonoredMadman]

yeah i didnt include it because i couldnt find anything else that used it butim honestly kicking myself for not including it

[@dr_alex0422]

Placidusax also uses the "holy flame", maybe it has to do with him being elden lord?

[@thelionofjudah5318]

Omen flame I would say look similar as they both creatures of the crucible era. The black and gold flames of the omen are strangely or pretty much identical to deathblight flames

[@steamedhamlet]

Youbcan see that same gold flame in the skill Blade of Gold from the Blade of Calling. I tested it out and it doesn't do any fire damage.

[@SandyCheeks1896]

THE ANCESTRAL SPIRIT SOUNDTRACK 🤣

[@christianhowell3140]

So wats the lore behind the Flame of That Fat Bong Rip You Took?

[@i.salcido8183]

Good to see another video my brother!

[@arclight7736]

ayee back with the bong rips, keep it up

[@Yousadclownofaman]

I have my stopwatch - exactly 10 seconds on that bong rip. Lowkey I want that bubbling sound to be part of the intro to all your longer videos LOL! Great vid man

[@5TailFox]

The face on the Fire Giant's chest reminds me of the face that was left on Steven Carrell's chest in 40 Year Old Virgin, when he went to go get his chest hairs waxed.

[@colorgreen8728]

I want the company of hawks little helmet

[@kevindangelo1091]

U have a talent for coming up with unique perspectives and insights

[@crome2sniper]

You really came back from that hit a few decibels lower XD

[@eag1239]

loving your vids bro please keep making them!!!!

[@TheHonoredMadman]

Thanks man. I plan to. Not just elden ring but other games and stuff too

[@eag1239]

@@TheHonoredMadman can’t wait!!

[@Kieran.Robertson]

That ancestral spirit theme tho 🔥

[@darkhobo]

You were on Reddit yesterday and got in on the Morgott fire cane conversation huh? That was totally my comment! About how fire is heretical and thats why Fromsoft changed it. Awesome to see it kicking off conversation. I had a feeling I was going to find someone talking about it.

[@AlbertusSalvatierra]

Yeah… that was weird. It used to be in there but not anymore…

[@zacnizib]

too true, the regal ancestral spirit ost is the hottest fire in the game

[@ShriekPyro]

Never seen this channel before but wasnt expecting mans to pause the vid for a bong rip xD

[@loch1694]

yo give us a heads up on the smoke break next time bro jk sick video

[@topdeckhelix8450]

“Sorry about rambling” *takes a 30 second bong rip* “anyways, so the Deathbirds right, they have…” Love your vids man, very relaxing yet informative

[@themissionary58]

I really appreciate your videos and thoughts about the lore, man. Sorry if it seems like I ramble in the comments section sometime, just tryna get my thoughts out there 😄

[@TheHonoredMadman]

all good man the rambles are welcome ive been busy the past week so i havent been able to get back to as many as id like but as soon as i have time i like to go through the comments and reply

[@GabrielPereira41]

Im convinced Melina was the Gloom eyed queen and after Malekith sealed Destiny Death she was left burned and bodiless but still alive due to the role she would play in Marika's plans. She is an empyrian(possibly even Miquella's and Malenia's sister if you look at vaati's last video with the butterfly connection) and we see her gloom eyed form in the lord of frenzy ending when shes welding destined death again to kill us.

[@GabrielPereira41]

Maybe her curse(like Malenias and Miquellas) was to always be linked to a flame someway, first the black flame them the flame of ruin.

[@AlbertusSalvatierra]

@@GabrielPereira41 Or the fact is that the gloam-eye could be a mark of death. I mean, the gloam-eyed Queen was characterized by the coloration of her eyes. Gurranq gave us a blue-ish beast eye the festers around death root… which is what Gurranq desires, and that same eye color is shown on Melina when she threatens the Lord of Frenzied Flame with destined death. Perhaps the gloam-eye is more so a curse mark characterized with wielding death 🤷‍♂️

[@Necrotaku999]

Melina being the gloam eyed queen proves that radagon and marika was always one and the same, the gloam eyed queen its mentioned as something from the distant past, so if she is melina which is daughter to marika and has pink hair (a middle point between platinum blonde and red)

[@cjh.1920]

The soundtrack do be flames

[@Grunge_Cycling]

Coincidentally hitting our pipes at the same time 🤜 🤛

[@foster2095]

"(the ladies in the windmill village) appear to be some kind of A24 reference" boi you're playing with fire saying that joke so deadpan 😂

[@AlbertusSalvatierra]

As much as I love Elden Ring and still want to see content pertaining to its lore, which is covered by you like no other - some games I’d like to see ur coverage over would be things like the Doom saga from 2016 to 2021, or the new Re games (7 & 8 since they’re kinda standalone), as well as much, much smaller games in terms of story, like Hellblade (which is getting a sequel) or Little Nightmares (consisting of three games).

[@AlbertusSalvatierra]

@Lachy314 Yeah honestly - like, despite the chill tone, he really does go all out in information

[@tokilladaemon]

holy SHIT i've been looking everywhere for an answer as to why the trolls have those empty abdomens, and your point about them previously having the fell god's face there and then having it removed is so brilliant and obvious i can't believe i didn't ever see it before

[@AlbertusSalvatierra]

Tbh - the coverage of the different spell-using sects of astrology such as Caria and the Academy would be pretty interesting, as well as its variations like the Conspectuses or Cuckoos.

[@colorgreen8728]

I think it’s a core element of being in power or having power, also I absolutely need black gold fire as a buff the omen fire or death light fire, spew it on with our mouth like the omen. frenzied flame as a buff, spray it on weapon with our eyes

[@colorgreen8728]

Also need ghostflame weapon buff

[@colorgreen8728]

And regular fire as a weapon buff

[@ernestojusta2192]

I always lose my shit whenever he hits the bong mid video

[@Spec0psGrunt]

Finally an Oracles of Seasons/Ages appreciator

[@Dzombic_]

but where's the sleep flames of St trina's torch?

[@DrownedLamp]

Shhhhh...it's sleeping

[@paris5831]

Bro I heard u take that rip and I was like fuck yeah and took one too and subbed shit was rad

[@TriptuneRadio]

I did an int/faith build and black flame is the only thing I can use to kill radagon so 👍

[@SandyCheeks1896]

Lore accurate lol

[@TheHonoredMadman]

I wish we could skin radagon after that fight

[@TriptuneRadio]

@@TheHonoredMadman elden beast beats us to it

[@colorgreen8728]

I need that ghostflame torchpole

[@GEDOHBLAZZTER]

Mans was casting that mary jane flame

[@lexmortis5722]

10:16 ad started playing, I hate ads ruining jokes

[@a-rah9001]

Hello,the ending where you talk about the connection between serpents and dragon communion is proven right by the existence of mesmer and his motives. Maybe mesmer's flame is like serpent flame faction or some sort of flame we haven't discovered yet.

[@ServantofGod0000]

You’re videos are badass bro. 😎

[@aayewhyy]

Wish we had more glintstone fire spells (could look like blue version of rykards spells ) and a gravity ( purple shockwave like flames )and scarlet rot flame (red Smokey flame) spell trees to complete the fire spells we need water and wind spells would be cool

[@rRhyan]

Man did not hit that fat bong rip in the middle of the video

[@CaptainOfTheCrapShak]

good breakdown of the niche fire types in the game

[@TheHonoredMadman]

Thanks man I appreciate it

[@KrimmyKrim]

You know, that line you said where u mentioned how maybe the Dusk eyed queen was a competitor of Marika's back in the day sounds like a pretty good idea. Surely the greater will didnt just choose Marika for goddess right off the bat. Maybe there were various candidates or in universe, empyrians that had a chance to become the new vesel but also werent all related. H see if Fromsoft did this we wouldnt be limited to say "well, the queen was an empyrian thus a child of Marika cus all demi gods come from her" I at least hope we see more outter gods' chosen people.

[@Komega01]

poor vaati he used to alure people to his channel with his voice and editing but then we have this guypushing out vids like crazy and they do the job just fine

[@Gooshnar]

You forgot The Flames of Ambition

[@BonePapi]

Ayo, on my 11th and 12th playthroughs. One's a full on tarnished lad (rusted armor, fucked shield, basic ass sword, etc etc) and the other's a Godskin wannabe. Suggestions for endings?

[@themissionary58]

Ya know, after seeing the moving embers in the Forge of the Giants, it reminds me a lot of some of the corpses you see around the world, specifically corpses with MOVING red marks on their (burnt?) skin. I always wondered why some corpses you see have moving red marks, but now I'm thinking it has something to do with the flame of ruin. Maybe that's why you see all those crucified people around the tree sentinel? I think they all have red moving marks, but maybe I'm misremembering. Maybe the Tree Sentinel is the one who hung them up their for their sin? I also think they have something to do with the Giant Faces in Limgrave that were cut from the game. Those giant heads had red moving marks too.

[@TheHonoredMadman]

dude no lie i was just noticing this on my third playthrough that some corpses have these unique ember charr burns on them. like the one in the house near where you fight diallos brother for instance. or even rannis actual corpse to me looks like its slightly embered

[@themissionary58]

@@TheHonoredMadman kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaLEommfj79sjck I just found this video by Sekrio Dubi that relates to the flowing embers on people's flesh. Bernahl's maiden said she took the fire to her body and now she has the flowing ambers, just like the corpses. Just thought I'd share this here in case you were curious. Sekiro Dubi also has another video about giant heads in Limgrave that had flowing ambers all over them, and I think that's probably related too

[@capsuleC0RP5E]

Bro I was getting winded just listening to that böng rip

[@_faultee_]

Magma is so much fun in PvP.

[@Graysett]

Honestly as bad as having 8 kinds of fire is, what I can't get over is how there's 4 different versions of Death magic. Blackflame, the OG (except maybe not actually the OG). Whatever the Red/Black Maliketh version is called, the stolen version. Eclipse/Deathblight, the Black/Yellow "corrupted" version from Godwyn/Deathroot. Ghostflame, the white/black version that seems to be associated with the Deathbirds and whatever version of death they're involved with, but also is old as hell because it's used even in the Nox cities and predates the Erdtree even showing up, but is still part of the current society's culture despite being both death AND flame. Oh, and also this flame is cold and applies Frost because ??? Oh Elden Ring, why must you be this way.

[@TriptuneRadio]

You live in a fiery wasteland? Is that California or Australia?

[@ixiahj]

Is the torch of St Trina its own flame? Its colored differently and it causes its own sleep status build up.

[@TheHonoredMadman]

i wanted to cover it but i know so little about it or if its actually a flame but i should have had it as an honorable mention. on the st trina arrows though it doesnt look like a flame

[@YaBoySheeny]

The Raya( astrologer descendents) and fire giants were friendly so I Southbridge they had beef even in current times

[@TheHonoredMadman]

yeah they were neighbors this the problem with my rant videos

[@bluejizo1881]

Do you think that the formless mother is tied to omens, as most omens actually do not use bloodflame. Dung Eater and the omens in the shunning grounds use a yellow flame. The blessing of despair ending has a yellow, pustule filled sky, with no hint of the crimson of the formless mother.

[@rubenalvarez6830]

Great Video sir!!

[@stefanchaudhry724]

love the video what do you think about the theory that says melina is the gloam-eyed queen

[@TheHonoredMadman]

i think its possible or maybe some kinda of offspring of hers or even like maybe another science project of marikas, made out of the gloam eyed queens remains

[@porcus123]

We killed the fire giant and I bet if we just told what we wanted he would be chill. Fromsoft making another game with an homicidal maniac MC

[@nickb1241]

wtf I was just gonna look up this topic when this video showed up at the top of my feed, freaky

[@tomwesterbergh4887]

What about golden flame that the Dragonlord placidusax using?

[@colorgreen8728]

Shabriri stole yura’s body

[@DrownedLamp]

*Politely and calmly handed his body over...while screaming about chaos and clawing his eyes out.

[@Agentlefox]

Couldn't the black gold fire of the mausoleum knights be the corrupted holy flames of Godwynn? That was my interpretation at least. Death flames all having some core black tinges and Godwynn being the epitome of the golden order pre-assasination leads me to that, and it would make sense that his golden flames wouldn't also cause holy damage when his soul is dead and the Golden Order are keen on hiding their shame.

[@leek5682]

Hold on real quick 😂

[@holtrain81]

A24 reference, as in a reference to the movie midsommar?

[@TheHonoredMadman]

yeah lol. they produce pretty good movies imo

[@steamedhamlet]

If you use the black knife on the carian trolls, they get the same black flame effect as Iji. He was killed by black knife assassins so i know it's obvious I just thought it was interesting... the knife has got the same effect as corpse wax cutter cause of destined death, but why does that burn with a black flame for carian trolls? Oh... I guess cause the black flame and destined death are the same thing? Destined death is red though

[@TheHonoredMadman]

its weird. the red flame seems to be destined death but removed from the black flame

[@fierygamingzilla69]

Does any else played along when madman takes a bong rip so do you

[@theangelofdeath7750]

@10:10 Cheers

[@Andys-u2e]

Yes and the video ended with a good boy

[@tibistibility]

No bong rip for the fire video???????

[@tibistibility]

Ahhhhh there it is

[@titchbits1]

Thanks man

[@Mawal28]

It is so weird that the black knifes stole destined desth and killed Godwyn with the eclipse shotel. Because the black knifes do use the red-black flame from Maliketh but the flame of the eclipse shotel is definitely not the same as the flame from destined death. It seems like maybe the yellow flame came from the red-black flame? This idea that flames came from other flames could open up to the idea of all flames being related or maybe that all flames came from the same one. If that is the case then probably the first flame, from which all others derived, would be the frenzied flame. But then the question would be how does one flame turn into another? For a simple start, how did the red flame from the fire monks became the black flame? But also how did the destined death flame become the yellow flame? Now why does Iji have black flames on his body? Shouldn't they be the red-black flame from destined death? Also why does the cutscene says the erdtree burns with black flame when we burn it down with the flame of ruin? It could all be misinterpretations but still, it seems like the flames are all related somehow. And maybe the deathflame from death birds and the white flame from the eternal cities are two different kinds or one derived from the other? Dont how how I havent watched this video before lol great videos

[@TheHonoredMadman]

they didnt kill him with the eclipse shotel. im on mobile but will reply in full when i can

[@Mawal28]

@@TheHonoredMadman damn I'm not sure where I got that from then, I was sure of that. So what did they use to kill him?

[@Mawal28]

@@TheHonoredMadman yo I just noticed that Maliketh's Black Blade got both red-black and yellow-black flames

[@NerdOracle]

WHAT ABOUT THE PURPLE ONE

[@hmmmhmmm6917]

4:18 Lmao

[@KitsuneShapeShifter]

Perfumer 420!

[@d.robinson6262]

Crazy I haven't been subbed but I am now

[@jacksonhemeon960]

I’ve heard a few KZbinrs say gurranq is Maliketh but if that true and it’s just a disguise how come you can kill maliketh and gurranq will still be alive could someone explain lol

[@DrownedLamp]

You are marking Death to die in the future. You've Destined Death to die. Time shenannigns, maybe. Gurranq in Caelid is the 'present' one. You see the same rune of death locked in his hand. He seems to be trying to repent for Godwyn's death. I beleive Farum Azula is hidden in the future. If u give Gurr all 9 lootable deathroots, his dialogue changes when defeating Maliketh. The dragon king something-Saax is also trapped/waiting there so maybe it's like a super everjail(goal).

[@jacksonhemeon960]

@@DrownedLamp it would make sense because of Farim azulas time warping abilities

[@AlexGordonMusic]

Fire is cool

[@westez4617]

Cheers mate

[@ednigma23]

Appreciate the rip, upgrade to dabs.

[@joshstorms3305]

Ooooo u know what that sound was😉haha

[@HenryGreenEngine3]

This video is lit

[@Unkindpigeon.]

Fat rip bruh. 👌

[@mfyrisingmayo1913]

BONG HITTT

[@alastor8091]

Yay!

[@yungxtsunamiyt8996]

ayeeee love the vid