8 Top Tips to Master Pocket Hole Joinery

[@lionandbear]

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[@usablellc6735]

You had me at "screws in a bag"! Why hasn't any other KZbinr had fake sponsors. Hope you keep it up.

[@lionandbear]

I’m thinking I might keep going with it for as long as I can think of things so feel free to give me some ideas!

[@frazerday]

I came for the knowledge, but subscribed for screws in a bag 😂

[@lionandbear]

😂 you’ll like my next one then

[@dancharlebois2981]

Great video content. Love the pocket hole orientation explanation - right on!

[@lionandbear]

Thank you 🙏

[@LifeAdventurer1]

Best introductory video I’ve ever seen on pocket holes. Thank you very much!

[@lionandbear]

Thank you!

[@caseyxiang]

Thank you for sharing this. One thing I want to add is that there are pocket hole screws with star head. I chose Milescraft jig just because of that. They have those screws and I love it!

[@m_w_8088]

Excellent video. I really enjoyed your format. No BS, some humor and great encompassing info. Sub'd and looking forward to diving into your library for more.

[@lionandbear]

Thank you!

[@emerynoel567]

Hey man just wanted to say, I don't need a lot of woodworking videos (I don't do projects very often) but I did like AND subscribe because your video was 3 things that I absolutely need in every video: quick, witty, and well done. Twelve mins is kind of long but it flew by because of the other 2. Thanks!

[@lionandbear]

Thank you so much for your kind words and for subscribing, it means a lot to me. I’m working on another video that hopefully will be fun and it’ll definitely be quick judging by how it’s looking so far 😂

[@RPower-be6wz]

If unable to find "pocket hole" screws, round washer head particle board screws are identical. They're often cheaper/easier to find than brand specific pocket hole screws.

[@tombryant52jumpscoach]

I loved the quick shots of your finished projects shown at the 8:00-minute mark of the video. This is a great video to introduce pocket hole creation, and it took a lot of the mystery out of it for me. Thanks!

[@lionandbear]

Thank you. It’s amazing what you can make using pocket holes and it makes furniture building so accessible.

[@patpringle4812]

Hey Ben, Pat here from Toronto. Here in Canada, we have had the benefit of using Robertson screws for as long as I can remember (60 yrs). I believe it was a Canadian who invented them. Personally I only use Robertson or Torx in all my woodworking projects.

[@lionandbear]

Hi Pat! Yes I believe they are a Canadian invention. They definitely hold the screw well but I find the driver bits can quick wear down and then they start to cam out if you haven’t got enough pressure on which is why I prefer Torx. That being said, they’re still better than PH and PZ and don’t get me started on slotted screws! 😂

[@rolop847]

Just so you know, a torx is 2 robertson at 90 degree different to each other, I have used robertson in a torx head and it works, not as strong as the right torx. Yes robertson is a Canadian invention, I believe torx is an American invention. The US didn't like the Robertson just because it was Canadian, I knew some US carpenters that brought in robertson screws because they liked them.

[@lionandbear]

@rolop847 that makes sense. The robertston holds the screw really well when you’re getting started but I find they are more likely to cam out compared to torx.

[@niffrig]

​@@rolop847The US Army requested a war time waiving of patent rights. Robertson refused

[@caseyxiang]

⁠@@rolop847I am in Canada and I hate Robertson and avoid using it as much as possible.

[@hwpo7197]

Carpenter by trade but always admired furmiture and more fine woodworking. Picked up the 520pro few days ago. Gonna start simple with some closet organization

[@jcb31340]

Hello from France 🇫🇷 and Bravo 👏🏻 for this very good explanation video.

[@lionandbear]

Hello there my French cousin! Thanks for your kind words.

[@ThomasShort-w7e]

great vid Ben - please continue to share

[@lionandbear]

Thank you!

[@kenday7942]

Milescraft sells pocket hole jigs and screws and their screws are Torx (‘star’) head. I LIKE!

[@lionandbear]

Yes, someone else has mentioned that to me since making this video. If I get nothing else from the comments I’m happy I’ve been told about the milescraft screws! They’re on my shopping list for sure!

[@Bebonkin]

I would imagine you can use these Torx screws with the Kreg Jig?

[@lionandbear]

@Bebonkin yeah they’ll definitely work with the Kreg. They look to be exactly the same just with Torx heads. I’m ridiculously excited about these 😂😂

[@jasonklein8683]

Came here to mention the Milescraft torx pocket hole screws...I prefer these to the Robertsons which I round over way too often😂

[@Snakes-w1c]

I made a partition wall in my basement using just pocket holes. They are quite amazing.

[@jefff6167]

Thanks for this no BS video. Much appreciated. I’m a new subscriber. 🇺🇸

[@lionandbear]

No worries! Thank you for subscribing

[@james2506]

An you explain how the measure,ents work. Where should the collar on the drill bit be depending on the width of the wood please.

[@lionandbear]

It depends on your jig but with the kreg jig you hold the Allen key tool against your wood and it tells you what setting to adjust the collar to. It’s as simple as that. The instructions for different jigs will vary but it will be explained in the instructions. I may do a more in depth video about how to use the jigs at some stage though.

[@garystewart4748]

Great video , no time wasting and good points made , I’ve subscribed!

[@lionandbear]

Thank you!

[@allisd00m]

So much good information and tips in one video.. rarely comment on videos but had to say. Subbed

[@lionandbear]

Thank you so much!

[@MrKen-wy5dk]

I had to copy your video to my HD to watch it without obnoxious KZbin ads. After that, it was a great video.

[@dsigetich]

Hi, Ben. Like commenter Pat Pringle, I’m here in Toronto too. We have the great fortune of being quite used to Robertson screws. For many applications we can’t find anything else. We have to look in the “Punish Me” section to find Phillips. Yeah, we’ve got Torx etc., but find little need for them, eh? And THANK YOU! This is the best de-mystifying pocket hole video I’ve seen. I have a Kreg jig and have used pocket holes for bookcases and the like. I appreciated your section on when and when not to use pocket holes.

[@lionandbear]

Thanks for the comment. I love the “punish me” section 😂😂

[@lynnekerr3890]

Totally agree with that entire comment! Except I’m near Windsor now. 😂 All those things that come with a package of Phillips? The packet gets tossed.

[@frazerday]

Great video, thanks for sharing 👍🏻

[@garynagle3093]

Great video. Loads of tips

[@marshallgeller8025]

Hi Ben, Nice job on this. I jotted down all your tips and will keep them with my jig for future use. Another tip that may be worth mentioning is to drive the screws into face grain or edge grain but not end grain 😮

[@lionandbear]

Thank you, I’m pleased you found it useful. It’s unlikely that you’d find many occasions where you’d be driving pocket screws into end grain unless you’re trying to make a longer board from two shorter ones so hopefully shouldn’t be a problem that occurs very often but i agree that you wouldn’t ideally be driving into end grain as it’s more likely to split the wood.

[@GenialHarryGrout]

I clamp wood before screwing together but I also built a screw bed, if that is a the correct term, which is a bit of ply screwed on to 2 battens with the battens at a 90 degree angle. This allows me to push pieces of wood I am screwing together giving me something solid to push against giving me a perfect join

[@cymberli]

I could listen to you talk about pocket holes all. day. long.

[@lionandbear]

😂 thanks!

[@BarbaraKvistad]

Well done video. Thanks.

[@SuperWingman69]

What is the procedure for drill depth settings when joining different material thicknesses?

[@lionandbear]

All jigs vary so you’re best off checking the instructions but the depth is usually determined by the piece you’re drilling in to. My biggest piece of advice though is to do a test piece so you can make sure it’s all set correctly before using it on your actual project.

[@kroneditor9266]

Excellent video - thanks!

[@paulmshanga3310]

This is so informative 👏🏽 👌 🇿🇲, thanks.

[@lionandbear]

Thank you

[@psychedelic-guitar-art]

Subscribed.

[@lionandbear]

Thank you! 🙏

[@kosswc]

Can you do pocket holes on pallet wood?

[@lionandbear]

Absolutely. You’ll want to cut the rough ends off to minimise the risk of the wood splitting. Just need to make sure your pallet wood is thick enough.

[@brianfoley4328]

Well done, Sir, well done indeed.

[@lionandbear]

Thank you!

[@northernworks]

Great video, Ben!

[@lionandbear]

Thanks mate, appreciate it 🙏

[@Steve-dr7rr]

Can I ask where you get the big boxes of Kreg screws from cheers Steve 👨🏼‍🦽

[@lionandbear]

Hi Steve, I’ve always bought them from Toolstore.co.uk as they’ve always seemed the best value mate.

[@billyblackie9417]

How do you measure how to set up the collar on the drill bit so you drill the hole the correct length

[@lionandbear]

On the Kreg jigsaw there is the little tool that I show in the video. This corresponds to the instructions which tells you what to do. Each jig will have its own instructions on this so you’re best off reading them and hopefully if it’s a decent jig it’ll tell you what to do.

[@timothypalmer454]

You have a new member.I like this show....Buy the way the proper name for a star bit is "torx bit"

[@lionandbear]

Thank you for subscribing. I hope I can keep up the video quality and content for you. Yes, I refer to it as torx but also as a star bit as I know not everyone knows the proper name so tried to make it as understandable as possible.

[@timothypalmer454]

@lionandbear I understand. Most people here in the US also call them star bits.

[@batmanpaul1]

Great video 👌🏻

[@malcolmbacon7892]

Great informative video

[@LLPOF]

I bought an awesome all-metal pocket hole jig from Amazon and Torx head pocket hole screws, also from Amazon. Both were much better than Kreg, and much less expensive also.

[@lionandbear]

There’s definitely plenty of choice out there and most seem to be good quality too.

[@LLPOF]

@lionandbear Yeah, I had to look around a bit to find what I wanted. The torx pocket hole screws are much better.

[@lionandbear]

@LLPOF I didn’t even know torx pocket holes screws were a thing so I’m definitely getting some next time I buy a pack!

[@ReoAard]

Thanks

[@willtuckey3424]

Thanks mate. Just starting out in woodworking and you are the best presenter I’ve found so far. Bag of screws is a product we all have. I couldn’t find the link to the pocket hole side table. Sorry if it is obvious!

[@lionandbear]

Thanks mate, I’m pleased you enjoyed the video. You’re absolutely right and I missed the video link in the comments. It should be there now though.

[@robertdaino3255]

Do you have a link to the plug cutter you had in your video?

[@lionandbear]

Sorry, I thought I’d put it in the description. I’ll do it now but here’s the link: amzn.to/3PniI3X. It’s not cheap but it does a great job. My only advice is to drill nice and slowly rather than fast and you’ll get really neat plugs.

[@murphymmc]

Robertson screws are square, but not technically the same as American "Square Drive". The bit geometry is slightly different which does give a better fit and "bite" between bit and screw.

[@woodandwheelz]

Fun Fact: A lot of "Old School" (know-it-alls) Woodworkers say that Pocket holes are a sign of poor craftsmanship or even that it's used by people who don't know joinery. That it's a modern invention for lazy people. Blah, Blah, Blah! There is evidence of Pocket hole joinery in ancient Egyptian furniture and all through out history. In the 18th Century there were special bits for hand drills for drilling out pocket holes. It wasn't until 1990, I think, that Kreg was smart enough to create a jig to make it easier. So, phooey on all of you "Old School" woodworkers. LoL! Great tips and thank you for sharing. You have a new subscriber. God bless.

[@lionandbear]

Wow I didn’t know that! Thanks for sharing. I think traditional joinery is beautiful but not needed in a lot of cases. Different strokes for different folks but it really annoys me when anyone puts someone else down for making something a different way. If they’ve gone to the effort to make rather than buy then fair play to them.

[@woodandwheelz]

@@lionandbear I absolutely agree. I 100% adore fine joinery and am slightly jealous of those who can do it well. I say slightly because I haven't tried yet and am a firm believer in you can do anything as long as you are willing to learn. I'm sure I could do good joinery like the others, but I will always admire and respect those that I learn from and those who have come and gone. But, yes, don't knock someone who is learning and making the effort to do something. Be more encouraging rather than destroying them because they didn't do it the way you prefer. 1 Thessalonians 5:11 (ESV) "Therefore encourage one another and build one another up,..."

[@golfinguna]

LOL. Your not a know it all simply because you know something! I've never had a problem drilling a hole on an angle. That said I recently purchased a cheap pocket hole from Temu and found it more awkward so I will stick to the way I was trained 50 odd years ago.

[@kenday7942]

I don’t particularly care for the square drive (Robertson) screws - you can get the same pocket hole screws from Milescraft with TORX drive instead, which is what I prefer.

[@saso-qk6mc]

Amazon has Torx head pocket screws and some of the packages come with the correct fitting drivers.

[@lionandbear]

Thanks! I’ll have a look

[@pironi2405]

Thanx for advice👍

[@lionandbear]

No problem. Hope it was helpful

[@beetleb1801]

If you're looking for pocket hole screws with TORX heads, Milescraft do them. They also make better pocket hole jigs than Kreg too - in my opinion.

[@lionandbear]

Oh that’s awesome! I’ve never seen them so will definitely be having a look. Thanks for the tip!

[@StillLivinginthewoods]

I've never used a Kreg jig, so I can't say which is better or worse, but I have been happy with my Milescraft jig set. And I prefer their T-head screws too. I wish they sold them in stainless.

[@lionandbear]

Yeah I think most of the jigs out there are good to be fair. I love the Kreg 720 as it adjusts the clamp automatically based on the thickness of the wood which is a cool feature and the dust collection is excellent. That being said, it’s not cheap and you can get decent quality ones for much cheaper so it’s good to hear that you’ve had good experience with the milescraft one.

[@suzannecrawford7015]

Sorry, I don't know if I'm being dumb here but I've watched lots of videos on how to make a pocket hole, but I am always left with the same unanswered questions because everybody always says "First you need to know the thickness of your material". OK, but doesn't orientation matter? For example, I can attach two 2x4s together in a number of different configurations. Doesn't that matter? Depending on the way I'm connecting them, doesn't that mean I'm measuring either the nominal 2 inch side, or 4 inch side? How do I know which side counts as the thickness? Also, what if I'm connecting a 2 x 4 to a 1 inch thick piece of plywood? Do I need to know the thickness of the material I'm connecting to, or doesn't that come into play at all with a pocket hole?

[@lionandbear]

Good question and I understand your confusion. The orientation would matter but i imagine it would be very rare that you’d be drilling your pocket holes in the thinner edge of a 2x4 for example (I.e. in the 2” side). If you were then you would count the 4” as the thickness and measure accordingly. The problem you’d have on this is that you might not have enough material to drill into as it would offset your jig meaning your hole would start before the edge of your wood. (If it sounds confusing, set up your jig against the wood and have a look for yourself. It’ll make much more sense seeing it in person). You do need to take into account the thickness of the second piece but this is more to account for which screw to use. That’s where the Kreg screw selector web page comes in handy as it asks about both pieces of wood. More often than not you’re likely to be going from a thinner piece to a thicker piece so it’s usually not too much of an issue. It’s also where my advice for making a test piece is invaluable. You can drill your pocket holes and then figure out what screw you need and attach your test pieces together. If the screw is too short then they will pull apart easily. If the screw is too long it’ll blow through the outside edge of your connecting piece. I hope this clears things up for you and makes sense.

[@suzannecrawford7015]

Thanks for the helpful and quick response. It did clear things up for me

[@lionandbear]

@suzannecrawford7015 I’m pleased I could help 😊

[@justgoballistic]

I'll stick with the Robertson drive, they've been around over a hundred years. Been using them since I was a kid. I worked at a Ford dealership in the late 60's and first noticed Torx screws starting to show up. Problem now is Textron has at least 4 different Torx designs (maybe 5) and the drivers don't all interchange. To add to the may-lay, I understand a German company has come up with a new Torx design. Don't be surprised if you don't have a driver for your next bag of Torx screws.

[@acerjuglans383]

Good ol Canadian invention, the Robertson square drive screw.

[@lex500]

Sorry if I have missed the vid, which of the base camp masks do you use/recommend?

[@lionandbear]

I haven’t done a video on masks specifically as I didn’t think it was worth it to be fair. I use the M Pro but I reckon the Plus could be a good one too but I’ve not tried it to be fair.

[@davidaronson9475]

Where can I get those "screws in a bag"?

[@lionandbear]

😂 I got mine from Trend but the great thing is that you can even make your own at home. All you need is screws and a bag 😂

[@stuffbyneilsmith]

do you have a link to the screw guide?

[@lionandbear]

Yes fair point. I’ll add it to the description and do a pinned comment in a sec. If you google Kreg Screw Selector then it should come up.

[@GeeScottJay]

Pan head screws still stick out in 1/2" for me :-/

[@arthursweetman2180]

If u don’t want to use the Robertson square head screw use the Milescraft pocket hole screws there the T-20 and T-25

[@lionandbear]

Someone has mentioned them and they’re on my shopping list to get. Just need to work my way through all my Roberson ones first 😂

[@mark2jzsupra749]

not liking the pocket hole screw prefer the dowels when making small projects. i use the dowelmax tool. good put together video great positive and passionate too. like watching different types of woodworking videos.

[@lionandbear]

Thanks. I like dowels too and they can work really well for some projects. I just find them a bit fickle as you need to be 100% accurate to ensure a smooth joint so can be really tricky.

[@clutions]

Really miss the Hi-Lo screws.

[@avrumgoldman7392]

How to drive the screws in tight places: If all else fails, consider a Robertson No. 2 screwdriver! You can get Stubbies or 90-degree shapes. Personally, I like to do all my screws by hand. You will get a "feel" for the torque, which tell you if a screw is not biting well, and you will never strip the wood!

[@lionandbear]

Good advice. I’ve used a stubby screwdriver on occasions and it can work great but generally I’ve found the right angle attachment fits in smaller spaces.

[@pgramsey1]

The advice about always drill into the long direction seems to contradict the advice about placing the pockets where they can't be seen. A rectangle with screws driving in the long direction will have to have the screws on the outside I made a couple of bluebird houses with pocket screws. Most of the screws are on the inside, so all are inherently driving in the short direction. I did that for looks and so the holes aren't on the outside where they will collect rain. Weaker, maybe, but strong enough for the purpose. I also had to drive the screws with a ratchet due to the tight space. On the bottom the screws come in from the outside.

[@lionandbear]

There are always exceptions and in the case of the birdhouse it sounds like you’ve done it the best way. However I made a wall hanging bathroom cabinet recently and put the pocket holes going into the long edge but put them on the top and bottom and you can’t see them. This would be where you’d plug or cover them though if they were visible and the strength is needed due to holding heavy weight etc.

[@tomdaniels7215]

Is it "old school" or the difference between a professional and a hobbyist? In North America, the AWI / WI / NAAWS standards allow only four joinery methods for drawers. (Dowels, Biscuits, Lock Shoulder & Standard Dovetail) If an Architect finds out you've "cheated" the spec, he or she can have you replace the affected items it at your own cost.

[@lionandbear]

I’d agree between the hobbyist and professional. Unfortunately a lot of people who do it as a hobby think that everyone else should do it the professional way regardless of skill or requirements. The beauty of doing it as a hobby is that there are no strict rights or wrongs.

[@1packatak]

I have semi-custom cabinets in my home. They are made with pocket screw joints. I had a local cabinet shop do them 2 yrs ago. And no architect was involved. I live in the US.

[@tomdaniels7215]

@@1packatakArchitects are seldom (if ever) involved in residential renovations, (The price would go absolutely through the roof) but they are always involved in commercial projects. A millwork shop must be certified before they can even bid on such a project, which means passing written exams on the woodworking standards I mentioned above and producing finished examples of their work that comply. To be honest, this takes a lot of the "fun" out of it, which is why I enjoy channels like this one.

[@1packatak]

@ good to know!!

[@stevenfsbruni]

Robertson is King

[@drkline69]

Aiming your screw direction away from a wood edge is a nice idea but most of the time you can't do that because you are trying to hide the pocket holes.

[@lionandbear]

Yes it’s the best practice where possible and there are a few variables. For example if you’re painting it then still do it and then fill the holes. However if you’re staining then you need to consider if you plug the holes or if you just try to hide them.

[@Wowzers740]

The fake sponsor bought a subscriber in me 👍

[@lionandbear]

Thanks! I appreciate it. I’ve just filmed my next fake sponsor for my next video too lol

[@Abenteuerlich77]

I agree Torx is better than Robertson, but I absolutely CANNOT stand Phillips; so, I'm not complaining.

[@lionandbear]

Yeah they’re definitely better than Phillips and don’t even get me started on slotted screws! 😂

[@ephemer7942]

At first I rejected Robertson screws, just due to having only one sqare bit to screw them. But found out how advantageous they are. The heads are very robust and the screws don't fall off the bit while using them single handedly. For other screws you need strong magnetic bits at least.

[@lionandbear]

@ephemer7942 the bit staying attached to the screw is definitely best on a Robertson but I find they cam out quite easily and need fresh bits more regularly than torx though.

[@paraxicgaming5743]

​@@lionandbearEhh slotted screws are fine if A) you don't need to tap the threads with the screw itself and B) you don't need clamping pressure, like if you only need to fasten something to something else like a motherboard on a computer case or a thermostat to drywall, Phillips on the other hand can suck a big old goat turd the heads basically worthless, they don't clamp very well, the heads round out 90% of the time, the ubiquitous nature of them in the US means there's a good chance you're going to come across one an subsequently have to replace it at some point. Robertson ain't perfect either you get spin out on the screw head or the bit wears but what Robertson does great is that the shape allows for repeated engagement even with worn bits and worn screws, it does provide excellent clamping pressure to boot, the shop I work at has been using them for 30+ years without any failures or loose joints. That said I would prefer Torx to have the same pervasiveness as Philips, I've never worn a Torx bit out or cammed out a Torx screw, but at the same time I don't get a lot of opportunities to interact with them either, good luck finding them in the hardware stores, was at Lowe's looking for any wood screw that wasn't Philips the other day couldn't find any that weren't decking sized (2" plus) guess built to fail just makes too much money 😂

[@lionandbear]

@paraxicgaming5743 great points! I agree with you about the torx. I’ve never had one cam out and it’s definitely a shame they aren’t used more regularly. I still disagree on the slotted screws though as they just slide out so easily if you’re at a slight angle or anything so they always go in the bin for me wherever possible.

[@markpapp8784]

I assume the fancy tape at 4:12 was supplied by this video's sponsor...

[@lionandbear]

😂😂 yeah something like that mate

[@ScarlettNell123]

Pocketholes are great for assembling "decorative" stuff. But if you require actual structural strength, like for example a bed frame, you're much better off using proper joints with a good glue.

[@justindarnellfpv]

Screws in a bag 😂😂😂 what a sponsor

[@lionandbear]

😂 wait till you see the next one!

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[@soujrnr]

Don't waste your money on the 320. Just get the bigger one. Once you're done buying clamps for the 320, you're only about $20 shy of the 720, which is FAR superior. Just save your money for the 720.

[@lionandbear]

The clamps are useful for other things though so depends on what you need. The 320 can do 2x4 wood but the 720 can’t. I use the 720 for 90% of my stuff and absolutely love it so can’t argue with your point but I do still use the 320 and the clamp for other stuff so it’s a good entry way into pocket holes.

[@soujrnr]

@@lionandbear - Ya. I hear ya. Truth be told, there are situations when the 320 is necessary, but like you, I use the larger one 99% of the time. I use the one made by Armor Tool, but they both do the same thing. Oh, and great video, by the way. It's really great that you provided the cutaway views to help people understand. Forgive me for not commenting on the goodness of your video right away! I am looking forward to checking out your other videos! Thanks again!!

[@lionandbear]

@soujrnr thanks, I appreciate it!

[@KvnWlsn]

I got a 520 which is the little brother of the 720

[@lionandbear]

@KvnWlsn I’ve seen it but never used it. How do you get on with it?

[@robiehaines4390]

Piece is not spelled piece...

[@robiehaines4390]

You spelled it peice

[@lionandbear]

Someone beat you to it lol. I like to think of my spelling and grammar as being half decent but piece is one I always mess up for some reason 🤦‍♂️

[@jeffhall3291]

Just go buy a Castle TSM-12. Lower angle, better holding, 10 times faster, and no, I have nothing to do with Castle, but I do own a TSM-12 and a TSM-30.

[@lionandbear]

I’ve seen the castle machines and they look amazing but aren’t readily available in the UK and even if they are, £1,800 for the TSM-12 vs £140 for the kreg 720 is a big difference. Especially for hobbyists.

[@misterm7086]

Yeah, just drop $1,800 for the Castle. Sure, Thurston Howell. 🙄

[@dancharlebois2981]

Sorry, but it is test piece ( I before e except after c)

[@lionandbear]

Did I put ‘ei’? 🤦‍♂️ my bad

[@21thTek]

its not about you enjoying it, its about to get a permanent strong joint or not ...

[@lionandbear]

Pocket holes with glue do create a sufficiently strong joint for a lot of projects. Some people get their enjoyment from being able to build an approachable entry level project whereas some people enjoy the craft of doing traditional joinery so I’d have to disagree to a point as a joint can be permanent and strong by using a variety of different methods. Enjoyment absolutely comes into it, especially for hobbyists.

[@shawnshurtz9147]

Save your money and buy a Castle TSM 12.

[@lionandbear]

I’m not sure how much they are where you’re based but a castle TSM12 is about 10 times more expensive in the UK than the Kreg 720 and that’s if you can even get one shipped the UK. £1,800+ would mean you’d need to be making a lot of things to justify that kind of cost.

[@colinjohnpack3105]

Pocket giles are very week never dun them at all

[@lionandbear]

Not true. I’ve used them to build tables and the stretchers on the side table I built can hold my entire body weight. Depends on the use for them as they won’t be as strong as mortice and tennon for example but a lot of joints don’t need that level of strength.

[@CookedAnimalEater]

You left a lot of information of basic pocket hole joinery OUT of this video. You're a real jerk.

[@lionandbear]

Thanks for your constructive feedback 🙄