8 years on Suboxone and this happens…

8 years on Suboxone and this still happens. Treatment needs to be more accessible. MAT patients need treatment, not punishment! Why are there always more hoops?
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[@meganeff]

Who else can relate to this BS‽? Has anyone else felt unsafe with their MAT provider? Let me know!!

[@Sensei_Sean]

Dont give up, it took me 10 years to quit Suboxone.

[@amandae911]

I went through similar situation about 7 months ago. I had to switch mat clinics (on Sublocade now) and had to find a physicians assistant in a mental health facility for mental health meds. Maybe try going that route cuz where I liv there r no Psychiatrists accepting new pts. And drs don't want to deal w it. I also had to wait months to see my PA. But I did hv a dr help during that transition. Wish u the best!!

[@JB-ez2jz]

@@Sensei_Sean that makes me hopeful. I’ve been on 6yr and life is so good. I take a mild dose and haven’t abused it since the day 6yrs ago I decided to stop the grind! So when people ask me why I don’t just get off it already I feel shame over it but I know besides keeping me off the streets it gave me help with my depression as well as an amazing job, healthy kids and hopefully real soon a house! I could never have imagined any of that in active addiction. So I’m just here, taking at my own speed. Hopeful to one day get off it but knowing I’m in no rush. My sub Dr is absolutely outstanding (if anyone is in Long Island NY and needs a referral hit me up) so I don’t have to deal with any of the BS she mentioned so I’m comfortable! Congrats to you my friend for making it to the other side!

[@brittneyx3]

@@JB-ez2jz that was so heartwarming to read. thank you for sharing that. way to go super dad! 💚

[@meganeff]

I just had a subscriber that tapered like I recommended in my other video, and he had the same withdrawal symptoms that I did - mild belly woes, insomnia for a week or two, and jittery/restless legs at night. Going to work/going outside/moving his body helped. He did have an influx of emotions, but that balanced out eventually too. Tapering is easy if you go VERY slowly and VERY low on your dosage. If you want any pointers, DM me on Instagram. (obviously I'm not a doctor - so you should still consult with them before making any changes)

[@8no1likeme-infinitestar65]

I am on both Suboxone and Adderall and I hate it bc the same doctors that put u on it treat you like your a drug seeking addict just when u need ur meds. I am so sick of the system and them not giving a shit about us really

[@z7a0c7k]

I wish I could get my Ativan with my Suboxone but just like you they treat me like an addict…

[@Kyle-rt5qy]

ADHD meds are simply a way to fuck you up and make you prone to addiction. Most addicts were on ridaline or Adderall when they were kids, pharma uses it as a way to mess up children's receptors and prep them for a life of addiction, I have extreme "ADD" and have found it's all bullshit, the meds are a joke, just another way to damage your brain. You don't need them, and you know it. The only reason me and you have to be on beuprenorphine is because of them and their shady ass business, it's not a coincidence that the same medication that "helps" you pay attention also does the most damage to receptors in the brain. I hate the fact I have to take Suboxone, but I've learned when it comes to their "ADD", YOUR JUST DIFFERENT BUILT TO RUN YOUR OWN SHIT AND NOT BE THEIR BITCH. find a job you enjoy and those meds won't seem important

[@NafaelRadalBeats]

Pharmacy hates me. ketamine nasal spray, Ativan, valium, adderall, bupe.. tell your doctor your on double your doses of everything save the shit and have emergency stash

[@mattneil1449]

This is the exact reason I quit. My doctor would hold giving me the meds over my head to try to get me to do things. After the last appointment with her I got home and I was still so mad I made up my mind to quit. She called me asking don't I want my script I said I'm not your dog I'm quitting. I thought that would be the end of it but she still billed me for the next weeks appointment when I didn't show up lol. She would send the bill twice a month for months after. I know it's petty but it did feel good to stick it to her a little. She couldn't believe I could just quit like that. Her tone even sounded annoyed when I told her.

[@8no1likeme-infinitestar65]

@@jonathanplack8661 ok. I was an addict when I was on dope and meth

[@joshualeonard1055]

I went back and forth on this same thing when I was on the meds forever. Between the withdrawals, all the nonsense, the anxiety and head games, I decided to get off the meds. HARDEST thing I have ever done, but I have to say, when I came out on the other end ... talk about a feeling of freedom. Thankfully I found an amazing community and established a recovery foundation which was key!! Keep your head up. My path isn't for everyone but it's what my life needed at the time and it worked. Suboxone has saved so many lives so don't let yourself be stigmatized regardless of the choices you make for your life and recovery.

[@sugarstreicher]

This is the reason I just took what I had and tapered off myself after 8 years. I’m currently on day 6 of detox and it’s not nearly what I thought it would be. I have flu like symptoms but not terrible. I’m just ready to be normal again and not have to deal with being treated as if I’m less than. Good luck to you!

[@JessicaKent]

💚

[@tarajane1334]

Be CAREFUL with the suboxone!! I’ve been on it 4 years now. Currently trying to get off it. It’s linked to tooth decay and throat cancer!! I didn’t want to believe it but after doing tons of research I’m a believer now. 😢

[@callieglowup9436]

My teeth are absolutely f*****. I've never had a cavity in my life not during the whole time that I was using pain pills either. I've been on suboxone now for about 4 almost 5 years ago started getting extensive cavities I probably have 7 or 8 teeth that need to be pulled right now I'm in pain every other month I really wan to do someone because when I made The Choice to be on the Box and I did so they can say for the method on and they had no studies linking it to Tucci had I known that I probably would have chose methadone

[@seekingfreedom9020]

I've heard of the tooth decay but I've never heard of the throat cancer. I was on it for seven and a half years, didn't have any tooth decay, hopefully my throat is good lol

[@dspadi1017]

I’ve had issues with my doc lately. I couldn’t get a hold of anyone for days so my therapist, who also works there, told me to just go in. So I did, and while waiting I hear the medical assistant talking to the front desk, saying “I don’t even know why she’s here”. And then they both start laughing. Then the doctor finally sees me and tells me an emergency on my part doesn’t equal one on his and I’m disturbing other patients. Keep in mind, all I did was ask to see the medical assistant, then sit down. I didn’t demand to see the doctor or act rude. I’ve been a patient of theirs for 11 years, by the way. It’s bullshit.

[@tinsakamp]

Omg!! The balls?!?!?! Geeze!!! That sucks!!

[@dspadi1017]

@@tinsakamp yup, bunch of buttholes, lol.

[@meganeff]

Wow!! That is so not okay for them to say that to you!! They should return phone calls within 24 business hours! Not hearing from them IS an emergency, the least they could do is show you some compassion!! Edit - typo & clarity

[@dspadi1017]

@@meganeff so lately, the last 6 months or so, it can days/weeks to get through to the front desk and pharmacy. And my Primary doc is there, psychiatrist, therapist and pharmacy. It sucks big time.

[@maryshellsmith6627]

I feel you anger. I feel exactly the same way. It’s totally ridiculous how some people are about Subs. We’re treated like criminals just for being on it. It’s infuriating! I’ve been on it 14 years this June.

[@NotreDame-uw5di]

Megan!!! I watch your old videos all the time. I am on buprenorphine and couldn’t be happier!

[@meganeff]

I love Suboxone!! I just wish it wasn’t so unnecessarily difficult at times. I’m trying to get signed up with a Telehealth provider, and I feel like I’m jumping hoops just to get this all lined up.

[@cruzredeyes]

You must have finally figured out that doctors actually don't care about you. Their job is to make money.

[@theeclipsedtruth]

People not in recovery dont realize how difficult it can be...they always assume WE'RE the problem.

[@mattneil1449]

It's somewhat counterintuitive but going through withdrawals is not the hardest part of quitting. The hardest part is staying clean right after you quit. You will feel bored, lonely, probably be in a little pain or at least discomfort. Knowing that all you have to do is use to feel better. That is the real hard part.

[@seekingfreedom9020]

I've been on Suboxone for 7 years now, it has never been more depressing than it is right now. I tapered down from a 6 mg to 1 mg in one year and then another year from 1 mg to a quarter of a milligram. But I'm telling you what it is the most depressing thing I ever have done is taking Suboxone.

[@amandaruck9744]

Are you still on .25? How do you feel? I’m on 4mg BID, (2x daily so 8mg total), and I sometimes take an extra 4mg because I feel like I’m having opiate withdrawal and I H A T E it! I detoxed 120mg of Methadone in a treatment center that I was on for 13 YEARS, I’m also alcoholic and a member of AA. I really want to be off of Suboxone. I’ll have 2 years sober in October so I want to start tapering then. Should I do a 2-week taper/detox? I don’t want to drag it out for another year but definitely don’t want to relapse either!

[@meganeff]

I tapered off of Suboxone in 2009 by going down to .5 mg every other day. It is a huge mind game you have to learn how to manage. If you want, you can DM me on Instagram at meganeff. I’ll gladly answer any questions I can or share my experience. I’m down to 2 mg now.

[@andrethagiant12]

@@meganeff if you tapered down .5 mg every other day since 2009. Then why are you still on them? You should be off of them by now. And you're right it is a huge mind game.....

[@2lucki333]

@@andrethagiant12 bro I was just thinking the same damn thang lmao

[@andrethagiant12]

@@meganeff the math doesn't add up. If you were tapering off .5 every other day since 2009 you would be totally off of them right now, not on two mg. 😂 2+4 = 10 right 😂🤣😂😂🤣.

[@darbycrash55]

Ive been on subutex for 16 years. Constant fear of missing/dr retire/hiw to treat my pain if i have an accident.. ect. I have a job, kids, responsibilities.. i cant take the tine off to ween... Im stuck.

[@amandaruck9744]

SAME!!!!! I want to taper off but I can’t do that being a SAHM with 2 VERY young kiddos. So I had to choose between ORT & benzos to treat my debilitating anxiety disorder. I went to inpatient rehab for 45 days in October, 2020 to come off 13 YEARS of methadone. Got on subs and now I want to taper/detox but idk how! I’m so stuck. I may just go back to treatment to detox but my husband would have to take leave and I’m scared of going back into opiate withdrawal-the methadone withdrawal was the worst pain I’ve ever felt. 🥹💔

[@meganeff]

Go very slowly. Do you have Instagram? You can DM me on there. Username is meganeff.

[@richlewis1879]

I honestly think I might be the person who's been on suboxone, the longest in world history. I've never missed a dose, and NEVER relapsed. I've been on 2 8's since June 19th, 2003. It has saved my life, but I hate it. I'm actually on Adderall as well. I wish you luck! It's like you get penalized for doing the right thing!!!!!

[@katieandnick4113]

I’m close. Well, I started on methadone in 2004, but switched to suboxone in 2007 I believe. Have never relapsed, and am considering trying to get off, or at least lower my dose significantly.

[@3monkeysandamoose]

Right behind you, 2004. Saved my life. Psychiatric meds had already destroyed my teeth. There are so many meds that cause dry mouth. Clean and sober 18 years.My adult son"s wife convinced him it's a band-Aid along with his sister. He's snorting Fentanyl. Spent 2 days in a coma in ICU. 30 day TX twice.Just got home a week ago & doubt he's clean. Carry Narcan with me @ all times & bought script to leave @ his house. Have not heard from him as his wife tells everyone !'m toxic to his recovery. I've worked in the recovery field. Stigma is fatal

[@andrethagiant12]

@@katieandnick4113 a person can do anything they set their minds to it's only the excuses they make that hold them back in life. The doctors have me on 320 oxycodone 30s are month, plus liquid Dilaudid and liquid morphine, for over 5 years back in 2013. When I had stage 3 cancer, the doctors recommended that I should go to a suboxone clinic to get off everything instead I told him to f*** off because I've seen what it does to you people. I locked myself in my room and went through massive withdrawals for three and a half weeks. On a scale of 1 to 10 10 being the worst. Withdrawals was like a two and stage 3 cancer was like an 11. A person is not clean if they are using suboxones. And it's absolutely ridiculous how long some of you have been on Suboxone when they are were originally designed to be on for six months or less. If you really want to stop. Only you can make that decision nobody else. Is excuses that you make that hold you back in your life same with everybody else on here that's been on suboxones longer than 5 years. I understand you don't want to go through withdrawals. But that is inevitable and it's going to happen no matter what. I have now almost seven years clean I have a surgery coming up in March and I'm going to refuse narcotics just like I did last surgery. I have had over twenty two different surgeries since January of 2014. Most of y'all on here I've never been through the worst pain of your life. Also call me whatever names foot your guys's boats because that's what most Suboxone addicts do when they don't agree with somebody else's opinion that's been through way worse than what they have. There are so many cancer patients out there that can't get the proper medication that they need because there's addicts out there coming up with every excuse in the book as to why they can't quit. I don't feel sorry for somebody that chose to pick up narcotics their own free will. But I do have sympathy for those out there that are struggling with real diseases and addiction is not a disease.

[@2lucki333]

@@andrethagiant12 severe widthdrawels can kill someone. It kept happening in jail and that’s why they put a suboxone treatment in jails because of the wrongful death lawsuits. Also, it’s not necessarily a choice as in if someone wants to wear pink or blue when it comes to true addiction. The root cause of addiction is Trauma and Isolation. So the choice to be suggested for addicts is for them to choose to work through their traumas and connect with people throughout interpersonal relations. Trauma is not a choice, but only experiences of unfortunate circumstances. I understand why people don’t understand it fully. I do agree with you on the fact that some people have been on these crutch medications for decades but I think they do it out of fear and also some clinics will make you be on it longer so they can get more money out of your insurance. However, it absolutely should be TREATED as a disease, even if it’s not necessarily a disease like cancer, it should be treated like one temporarily because Professionals have found that it is the only way for addicts to reach recovery. ❤️‍🩹 -from one RECOVERED addict

[@SOUTHEASTALLDAY]

Damn that's a Hella long time... Do U ever think you will get off it? I'm on 8mg currently, Ive been on Suboxone for 3 years now living in Australia.. if I could go back in time I wouldn't of gone to the doctors that Sunday when I was hanging out for H and should of just toughed it out... It has helped me but I'm very afraid to taper off Suboxone

[@-MAJIK-]

I was on opiates starting in 2000 and as of now I’m 34 days without anything. I just decided to quit because I wasn’t taking any opiates to get high for the past 8 years, I only took them to get rid of the withdrawals. And I was on Suboxone the past 2.5 years and I woke up 34 days ago and just said that I was done. If anyone wants to know anything about it please feel free to ask. I was on everything because I had cancer and as soon as it was in remission they yanked my meds and that was the time I started buying from a neighbor, and spending $800 a month so this was the first month that I had my entire check for me and my fiancé. It is incredible after the first 16 days of quitting cold turkey. It is very difficult but also totally possible and worth it!

[@beastmasterakathabarbaric1509]

What's the easiest way I been on suboxone about 15 or 16 yrs,before that I wad locked on hydro and codeine syrup

[@Stephanie-we5ep]

​@@beastmasterakathabarbaric1509 What seems to work best is to sloooooowwwwwllllyyyyy taper off. Not a Dr and this ain't medical advice.... there's tons of videos abput how to go about it. Basically lower your dose by no more than 20% every 30 days or so. (Be prepared to briefly increase if you need to.) Once you get to *.25* mgs stop your meds entirely. If your Dr is willing there are meds (such as clonodine) you can take briefly if you're uncomfortable. You might find that taking .25 mgs every other day than every 3rd day helps. Rather than struggle cutting the strips or cutting the pills, some people suggested that you disolve the tablets in 10 milliliters of water and put the amount of water/sub under your tongue. Certainly the math is easier. Remember this is a marathon, *NOT* a sprint, so go slow!

[@-MAJIK-]

@@Stephanie-we5ep bro you know exactly what you are talking about! You explained it so well, and it’s EXCELLENT advice too. I tried telling my doctor I needed help and she straight up ripped my Xanax away. Got em back but they were crucial and I used Kratom for the first 5 days then no more. It’s truly a science and I can tell you know what you are talking about friend. Good job! 🤝

[@baims8367]

Quality Kratom will take care of any WD symptoms u get be it opiates or alcohol. But Kratom can also be taken / used for anxiety over all mood. Don’t let media or anyone else try and tell u or scare u into thinking Kratom is bad or addictive ect it’s not anything can be addictive honestly but as far as Kratom being addictive like heroine or opiates not at all take as long as u feel necessary and just stop when u want of u want. U might feel something similar to a coffee type of thing but no sickly WD. Kratom is a relative of tea coffee but it binds to your opiate receptors that’s why when u use it for withdrawal symptoms it works as like u took a opiate.. imo it give u a similar feeling to morphine .. I used it to keep withdrawals away as I pulled my self off of a 10 yr 15mg Oxycodone legal prescription due to back injury and failed fusion surgeries 😡 got tired of the whole pain pill 💊 BS they started doing years ago even though I was perfectly legit and had a reason for them I wanted no part of the Opiate / stigma the FEDS at the time were and now have created!! Wasn’t jumping through those hoops they can keep there “pain pills 💊 “ no way was I dealing or partaking in that shit. Sadly I wasn’t expecting to feel the way I did 😮😣😔 omg wtf the physical WDs were literally like a demon was dying inside of me trying to come out. So I wasn’t gonna go back on them or get another type of controlled prescription and researched and found KRATOM found online support in Maryland table spoon 🥄 of that stuff I just took it orally and swished it down with chocolate milk it’s like dirt it’s awful u can make tea , put in smoothies or even in pill capsule’s 💊 I suggest man up 🥄 full in mouth. Choc milk 🥛 swish it around and done it. 10 mins later PERFECT 👍🏻 no more sick feeling withdrawal’s last for awhile to!! 4-5 hrs Can also use it for anxiety and or any other type of pain symptoms I highly recommend it but not the gas station shit good fresh quality it’s cheap to when bought from a supplier I used life force Kratom in Massachusetts 👍🏻. Red and green red for night time green for day time red will make U bit 😴 ….

[@Grungefan2018]

Just wondering how you did it ? I’ve been on suboxone for so long I’m embarrassed to say. I have tried tapering so many times . I was way way down to less than 0.5 mg problem was my weight dropped dangerously low and I was so damn sick. I’m scared to do this in a rehab because I have seen how they operate. They WILL kick you out with no refund. There’s no way to know how I will react to intense withdrawal I mean I’m afraid of some psychotic break or something because I have terrible anxiety and depression. So if I flip out while going thru who knows what hell they can throw you out. I worry about this every day. Oh yea I am not young at all. Body not in the greatest shape . I was really hoping to be able to taper off and be able to work but that did not work.

[@forrestgerst5456]

Suboxone and methadone are the worst.the dreams I've had and woke up in the middle of the nite trying to catch my breath it's bad.never again

[@MariaAbrams]

I've been in recovery for 20yrs and have dealt with the things you're talking about so many times. It's crazy. I'm currently on methadone but I was on suboxone for a long time too. We should talk sometime, I would love it. I have so many stories about this same thing. I had a suboxone Dr who committed suicide, he was the only Dr in the area who could prescribe sub. I've had doctors who cut me off on the day my script was due....so many different things. I'm sorry you're going through all this. Good luck and I hope it all works out.

[@rockstarmom3121]

Unfortunately people sell it so they have to be careful. Addicts lie and play doctors so it presents a liability for them. It’s frustrating but there are reasons for it

[@gabrielasanchez9389]

I was on Suboxone for 6 yrs and I finally went cold turkey 40 days ago and it's the best feeling to get off that garbage. It was literally hell the first two weeks but it gets easier

[@dawnkelly804]

I don’t have insurance- I haven’t been to the Dr since I my youngest was 6 months-she is 21 yrs old-I would never stay for my intelligence with Adderall because it’s exactly what the government wants you to do- I think what you need is a Salvation so that you can see that nobody on this earth can give you what you actually need and that is a relationship with Jesus. Throw away all the meds because you are not born with an Adderall deficiency nor are you born with a Suboxone deficiency you are the victim of demonic oppression. The way out is really quite simple. Just do it.

[@Wodenseyes]

My subutex doctors office is scummy too. They’ve hired and fired 7 doctors in the year I’ve been there. They asked me what I wanted and what mg and how many a day. They kept encouraging me to go up and up until they had an issue and I couldn’t fill for 4 days. I had to be SERIOUSLY dope sick for 3 of those days till my doctor finally answered my calls. I’m hoping to get off them soon bc this whole thing feels scummy

[@z7a0c7k]

I agree. I lost a great doctor I had in my same town. Then I was with a doctor that tried to force me onto sublocade. Now I have an appointment with an internist. Shit is wacky fs

[@kathleenfangmeyer7574]

There must be someone that can help make this easier, does your insurance company have a list of providers they cover in your area? I’m sure you already thought of that but I felt compelled to say it. I completely get where you’re coming from with all that , you helped me a ton a couple years ago, it was refreshing to hear that being on medication is okay and I got away from AA/NA and it was the best thing for me and I felt like you gave me permission to do recovery the way that works for me. So thank you, I’m grateful that this video pop up, so I could say thanks for the inspiration to make change. I’ll be praying things work out for you🙏🏻 and that it will be a smooth process!

[@meganeff]

Wow I don’t even know what to say! THANK YOU FOR BEING YOU! I’m so glad you were able to make your recovery work for you. I’m so glad my videos helped with that. You seriously have made my day. And unfortunately because Greg and I aren’t married, I can’t get insurance through his work. I took a leave of absence this last year to process my grief. I wasn’t in the a good place after my best friend relapsed & overdosed, and thankfully Greg was able to support us while I got my grief/trauma in check. So my income this year wasn’t much, and they are making me go on medical assistance. That means I might have to go back to the cash clinic I left in 2020. 😬 I really am trying to avoid that, which is why I am trying telehealth but man the hoops are endless. I want to make a video about it once I get set up somewhere. Thanks again for commenting. It means the world to me.

[@meganeff]

Wow I don’t even know what to say! THANK YOU FOR BEING YOU! I’m so glad you were able to make your recovery work for you. I’m so glad my videos helped with that. You seriously have made my day. And unfortunately because Greg and I aren’t married, I can’t get insurance through his work. I took a leave of absence this last year to process my grief. I wasn’t in the a good place after my best friend relapsed & overdosed, and thankfully Greg was able to support us while I got my grief/trauma in check. So my income this year wasn’t much, and they are making me go on medical assistance. That means I might have to go back to the cash clinic I left in 2020. 😬 I really am trying to avoid that, which is why I am trying telehealth but man the hoops are endless. I want to make a video about it once I get set up somewhere. Thanks again for commenting. It means the world to me.

[@JustinSmith-dx8yb]

I've been taking subutex for over 15 years,I quit cold turkey without any withdrawals and that's a fact....Thank you Jesus +++....I just started back due to injury and pain.....

[@falconscloud]

Sure

[@meganeff]

A back injury is what got me back on Suboxone too

[@Rebecca-GLaines]

​@@meganeffI have HORRIBLE back pain. I'm on suboxone as well, one day, I was out working in the yard, I was getting lousy feeling, so I went to take my sub, went back out and around an hour later my back was hurting so bad I couldn't take it. I started wondering if it's not the suboxone creating this pain... its my lower back, and feels more like my muscles. Hurts so bad, but I've noticed it always hurts worse after taking meds.

[@jimmywhitlow2012]

​@@Rebecca-GLainesSuboxone will cause back pain. I have experienced it myself.

[@ill772]

WHY JUST WHY 🤬

[@shadow.banned]

People should be able to order mail order suboxone. It should not cost $100-500/month, at that point it's easier just to relapse.

[@dhall4001]

Might as well buy it off the street at that point (only if you do so in a video game or in a dream obviously)

[@15subarusti59]

@@dhall4001 tell me about it I have no health insurance and my Suboxone costs me $550 every two months plus the loss of overtime to go see the doctor and God forbid the doctor or secretary makes a mistake, forget it, my life is in shambles for the next 6 months because they can't do their job right. It's a disaster being on this stuff. I pay $2 each for my generic 8mg strips no health insurance and I get 75 of them a month, plus the doctor visit and urine anylysis is another $145 but one visit lasts me two months so. It's a little over 500 for me to get a two month supply. I'm 30 now and when I was younger and still on my step father's work health insurance, I was getting 75 of the name brand 8mg strips for $25 and the visit to doctor was only like $30. Ahhhhh the good old days.

[@dhall4001]

@@15subarusti59 sucks to hear that you’re going through it but this will pass, just keep sticking to your regimen and steadily improving your situation. that’s all any of us can really do, right? Yeah I’ve always been sketched out about getting on subs legitimately b/c I’ve heard stories that have made it clear many of these doctors don’t know wtf they’re doing and can’t empathize with withdrawal b/c they’ve never experienced it. There’s no way I’m giving some random person absolute authority about the substances that I can (or can’t) ingest. I’ve heard of drs just completely discontinuing ppl’s scripts and shit like that. That’s why I’d never feel comfortable using a sub dr as my only resource and would have to have an additional way of getting em. I’ve gotten on and tapered off methadone many times relatively painlessly but always get cravings and usually don’t make it long after. Right now I’m actually taking 2 mg of subs a day as maintenance and I feel good. I allegedly get them from non doctors tho, so I’m constantly stressed about never running out and about how long I should take it for, how I should taper, etc. All b/c I can’t walk into a doctor’s office, tell them exactly what I’m addicted to, and get shown compassion and receive humane treatment. Instead, I often get looked at like I’m subhuman and stigmatized as someone only interested in getting high. I use substances at this point just to not be physically/mentally unwell b/c my body literally depends on them to feel normal, sometimes even functional at all. The fact that my behavior interferes with your social norm doesn’t change the direction of my moral compass, imma do me. Live and let live. Sure would be convenient if I could just manifest suboxone from thin air tho 🤔

[@15subarusti59]

@@dhall4001 ya when I wrote that comment, that was the first time in 7 years I went without my medication for more than a day and was feeling hopeless because I had just spent $30,000 on a car drive it for 6 months and now it already broke leaving me not able to get to and from work, plus didn't have my subs for the first time in many years and was like WTFFFFF. I will be on Suboxone until the day I die. The days of "tapering off, or only taking them for 6 months" etc, that is all bullshit. I've been prescribed 75 of the 8mg subs per month from the same doctor for over 8 years now and the only time I've had issues not getting my script filled is because I wait until the absolute last second to do my appointment and urine and if they're not able to see my right away it leaves me without my medication, but my doctor is pretty good about it because I've explained to her hundreds of times that I'm fully dependant on the medication and go into instant withdrawals if I wake up for the day and don't take my subs within a few hours. I work on houses for a living and do physical labor so for me to show up to work without taking my subs isn't even in the cards for me I would just call out for the day before showing up without my meds in my system. And you guys that read this are gonna think it's a lot, but I've been waking up everyday for 7 years now and my routine is i take two of the generic 8mg strips first thing in the morning and it lasts me all day, I'm technically prescribed 2 1/2 per day but sometimes I don't even use the half sometimes I do, but I like to save a few in case I can't get a. Appointment right away. Because I don't have health insurance I pay for all of this out of pocket $500+ lasts me two months supply. I never did heroin, me and my buddies when I was 19 ish used to sniff PERC 30's same thing of course but much safer and reliable, I never even had actual withdrawals from percs I used to feel moody and tired without them but never full blown withdrawals that actually called for needing Suboxone. How I started on Suboxone was, my best friend Lucas got on them because I guess he was doing way more percs than I was and he had really bad anxiety issues and the subs helped him with that, so HE got a prescription of Suboxone and I basically lived at this kids house it was my second home in my teenage years after high school and because he couldn't do percs anymore being on subs, what do you think I started to do???? "Hey bro want a piece of a sub?" I was a young dumb kid with no real parental guidance and of course I took whatever he was willing to give, just a quarter.of a strip back then would have me rocked out of my mind itching all night copping nods and stuff, I fucked around doing that at night time with him for a while and eventually I went to his doctor like an idiot, and asked.for my own script making up some bullshit story about that I m withdrawing from opiates which I really wasn't now that I actually know what real withdrawals are, back then it was small enough habit that the worst "withdrawal" I felt without taking something was just moodiness never any hardcore physical or mental withdrawal. And that's how I got on subs, flash forward after being prescribed my own subs I kept upping my dose as needed until I got up to two 8's a day and I still take that til this day, it's definitely a lot and not good for you in the long run, but I'm at a point in my life where it's just whatever at this point. I will be on subs for my entire life til the day I die and my doctor and I have no plans for me to taper off or stop using Suboxone. Taking two 8's in the morning for most people would have them copping nods but for me it just evens me out. In all honesty, I RECOMEND that you up your dose a little bit if you're only taking 2mg a day or whatever you're definitely going to feel withdrawals by the evening or night time. I have a lot of experience with this medication. Another thing I want to say is that you guys should not be tapering completely off subs because your just setting yourself up for a relapse. Don't do that to yourself. Talk to your doctor about it and if they won't listen get a new doctor. My doctor totally understands and know I've held the same job 55 hours per week for the last 7 years so being a functioning "dry addict" she gives me the benefit of the doubt when I tell her my needs and how things are going. Is it healthy to stay on subs for the rest of your life? No.... Does it best overdosing from fentanyl because of an impulsive relapse after a bad day or a break up, etc, yes! Definitely beats being in a position where you could go get high on hard opiates. I've never touched a needle or heroin in my life but Ive lost 7 friends to heroin and needles. It's a god given miracle I never touched that shit because I had the chance many times but I had.a phobia of needles and my parents were not dumb and would have fucking killed me. I thank God for that. But ya, I ended up on Suboxone for life because.of just fucking around and wanting to take something along with my weed at night to nod out with my buddy when we were super young kids, and it turned into me being fully dependant on subs just like any other heroin addict out there. I have never touched methadone except for one time my buddy gave me two 10mg methadone pills because we didn't have subs that night and I remember feeling the same as taking subs. I don't recommend methadone that's just my two cents it seems like a trap. I would rather be trapped in to taking Suboxone than methadone. Most people I see on methadone are ducking their own dick and can't even open their eyes, while most people I know on Suboxone are not al functioning members of society so ya...... Pretty cut and clear. Also want to mention that I grew up racing dirt bikes and skateboarding and have broke. Many bones that still cause.me intense pain and aches.to this day and the higher dose of subs allows me to work a 55hr week of hard labor without curling up into a ball and quitting because of pain.

[@15subarusti59]

@@dhall4001 a lot of people make the mistake of not taking a high enough dose of subs in the morning, and it leaves then feeling withdrawals by the evening time, and this gives people the impression that "subs are garbage blah blah blah" when in reality it's not lasting long enough in your system because your taking so little amount/tapering off/etc. I get that the plan for most Suboxone users is to use.it for a limited amount of time and eventually be totally clean, but that was never going to work for me. Trust me if I could stop taking subs tomorrow and still feel ok. Enough to have energy and drive to get my work done, I would do that. There's nothing more I want than to be off Suboxone, but I'm just being real with you guys, I will be on them until I die one day. A lot of my buddies from high school died from heroin overdoses and we grew up in a small well-off town so it's pretty sad seeing the path they chose, while me and my buddy Lucas were the ONLY ones out of that entire crowd that got on Suboxone and stayed on them and avoided all that heroin Bullshit. I feel bad for my friends and wish they had a chance to live their lives. I watchem them all die within a couple short years and it was wild to see. You couldn't tell them anything. They knew it all. So me and my friend Lucas just stayed out of their way and stopped talking to them. Now they're all gone. And me and Lucas are still here. That should tell you the power of Suboxone. It can save your life. So don't look at Suboxone as a bad thing that you have to take a small dose of or taper down etc. If you're taking 2mg a day now and start feeling crappy throughout the day it's because.yiu need to take another 2mg at that point. Trust me, I was down to 4mg a day at one point a few years into my suboxone 'treatment' and eventually worked my way back up because of pain from past injuries and soreness from work, hobbies, etc. I don't go to any meetings or anything like that, and I actually kept my Suboxone use a secret from all my co workers and people around me until pretty recently and they were all ok with it when they found out. Do what's best for you is all I can say. Just reading all your guys and girls comments and seeing the approach your prescribers are having you take, I feel like I could give you good advice and if you have any specific questions for me don't hesitate to ask. I'm sorry you can't find a reliable prescriber that will just give you what you need, it's tough to find and I was lucky to find a prescriber who is also a phycologist so it's like two birds with one stone when I go see her. And yes, I feel for you about not being able to be honest with your prescriber, I completely forgot about those days before I found my current prescriber who knows everything about my life and childhood and has seen me for over 8 years. A lot of these prescribers are scum bags and don't deserve the ability to write subs to people if they don't understand what we are going through. It's just not morally correct that they try to be stingy with the scripts they write just because the medication is worth money on the streets and is scheduled, when someone could lose their life over not having it. It's pathetic. If you even need to talk or have a question let me know

[@Mr.KingsThings]

Christ! This video is giving me anxiety!! You're so freaking wired up!

[@meganeff]

Haha…I get that a lot, but that’s just how I am. It’s exactly why I was treating my ADHD. I was just talking to my mom last night about how often people think that unmedicated me is “wired up”. It’s why I took Adderall for 13 years. It gets old being criticized for just being myself, but then when I take medicine to confirm I get criticized more.

[@Mr.KingsThings]

Please accept my humble apology.

[@sherylstory7809]

😂

[@mandyt1918]

For everyone wanting to come off of suboxone I highly suggest kratom. Took suboxone for the majority of 15 years. I tapered myself down (very important) and when i got down to taking a crumb i started the kratom. I've been free from that suboxone hell for 18 months now.

[@Haisleekeener433]

Congrats for real it’s a battle

[@mandyt1918]

@@Haisleekeener433 thank you. It absolutely is one of the hardest things I've ever had to go through. I don't wish that on anyone.

[@mikeg1433]

What brand/type of kratom did you use? I’ve tried tons of different ones and never helped.

[@mandyt1918]

@@mikeg1433 Remarkable Herbs is the company and its White Vein Maeng Da. I would also use the Green Maeng Da. Those 2 give me the most energy which is what I'm always looking for. The Green is more mellow or balanced from my experience. I would take the White in the morning and the Green in the evening.

[@Acemechanicalservices]

What do you do when you’re dependent on Kratom?

[@markfowler5075]

I’m sorry you had this experience. Even two years after your video, the laws have lightened up more to our favor. I’m recently off subs, but my doctor gave me 90 8mg strips per month and 6 refills only two appts per year. Last time I went in, didn’t even UA.

[@casperakavanessakennedy8871]

I'm also on suboxone for almost 4 years now....I get my psych meds, adhd meds, medical Marijuana, and mat all under one program...I see a counselor once a week but it's ALL VIDEO! I never have to go there... and I take a swab test with my once a month mat video visit..... they come and pick it up.... it's all video and all in one place...I hope you get what you need quickly!!

[@dgenerated]

Which program do you use?..

[@Haisleekeener433]

It’s all about the money with these docs they don’t care about u they only care about the money

[@theeclipsedtruth]

ITS A BUSINESS DRIVEN BY PROFIT, its not about getting us well! Im so sorry babe.

[@jessicanoisey1915]

I was recently diagnosed with adult adhd and prescribed Adderall my suboxone dr was not having it at all I’ve been clean 5 years and have not been able to come off of it I finally was diagnosed with my adhd and it has been a game changer I’m trying to find a sub doc who’s ok with my adhd and is ok with adderal smh it’s sucks so bad he doesn’t believe me

[@meganeff]

You’ll find them! I use Bicycle Health telehealth. I’ve had one doctor try to talk me out of of taking stimulants, but my life quickly has gone to shit whenever I stopped taking them in the past so I told them no thank you.

[@billdavis6978]

Be thankful most of your meds are covered and basically all you have to do is find a new Dr. I make ten k over Medicaid income cutoff and pay 100 percent of my medication. Part of my recovery has been having a routine with a full time job that gives me a sense of purpose.

[@kanikanewsome6305]

I'm a new subscriber how refreshing to get it from a female thank you my sister🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾❤

[@patrickhyatt172]

I probably have 4 maybe 5 years of subs stocked up, also Ativan, I get prescribed wayyyy more than I actually take so each month I stock up 45 Ativans and was stocking up subs but have decided to taper, I'm at 1.25 rn, if I do get off of them I probably have no kidding 500 strips of 8mg subs, brand ofc

[@dawnkelly804]

A life saving drug is Jesus

[@kareemaafteraddiction8965]

Your hair looks so pretty

[@meganeff]

Thanks 🥰🥰

[@hippiegal2461]

Hi Megan . It will all work out!!🤗❤

[@upnorthvlogs]

I’ve been on tec for 12 years just makes me feel normal and I take ads I only see one doc on the computer

[@ryangibson1900]

Who do you see? I'd love to not have to travel to appointments!

[@thierryverger5576]

Suboxone is a big S... It took me 10 years to quit and I've lost half of my teeth , great compound ☹

[@kevinsmith4305]

How many meds u need girl

[@nolimits300]

(please read this,i know is a little big)Hi. I almost lost my sister from heroin before almost a year.We are both orphans and we had run away the hell place people call orphanage.I was 12 and she 11.We made it tho!Shit started when she went to college in England.A friend told me about,i was on duty but i took the first plane and took her home.40 days was hell,i didn't knew what to do.I went and took those pills.I thought she was ok and i had to return to base.The next day a lady called and told me my sister almost die from suicide-overdose cause she thought she ashamed me.She also made a adult video in England,a college bs Now she's fine but never again alone when i leave.I saw the hell you guys pass,tomorrow is an other day and maybe gonna be the best day of your life!Wish the best!

[@amandaholley8068]

It’s not right at all. Restarting adderall is hard. I had to do it when then pharmacy ran out for two weeks. All of the regulations change so much. So many people don’t know how ADHD even feels. It brings depression, anxiety, OCD, and so many other things. Praying things get easier for you.

[@meganeff]

I found a new Suboxone doctor but not a psychiatrist yet. Fingers crossed I can get that worked out before January.

[@15subarusti59]

I'm 30, I've been prescribed Suboxone and Adderall for 10 years, no health insurance, costs me 500+ every two months, never taken a 'psych med' but. I literally just lost my job because my doctor forgot to call in my Suboxone and she went on vacation for two weeks. Now I'm sitting here with no income, no meds, and I have a half a suboxone strip left to my name. I'm about to lose my apartment too. Be happy you're able to wake up, shower, and even capable of filming a video. I've been laying in bed for 3 months thinking of the most painless way to kill myself. Going 3-4 days at a time without eating food. Good luck on your journey. Hope things worked out for you.

[@meganeff]

I’m really sorry to hear this. I hope you were able to figure something out. It took all the effort I had to film this video, and it took me weeks to muster up the strength & courage to film myself. My hair was dirty & I was in a rough spot when I filmed this, but things have gotten better slowly but surely. It sure took forever though.

[@andrethagiant12]

Why would you want to lay in bed and contemplate about killing yourself over withdrawal? Y'all are so weak minded. That is absolutely ridiculous that you're on Suboxone and admiral for over 10 years. There is no reason to be on narcotics for ADHD. There's other non-narcotic medication like strattera that help out great with ADHD and add. I swear people just find any excuse to do narcotics. I have no sympathy for people that are just going to want to lay around in bed and think about killing hurting themselves, when you choose to do those medications you can advocate for yourself at the doctor and ask for different medications but you don't. Adderal is a psych med they prescribed it for people that have psychological problems like ADHD. It is a narcotic just like the other narcotics that change a person's mind. And then when they don't have it in their system they start going through withdrawals and contemplating the easy way out by killing or hurting themselves. It makes no sense to pay 500 plus dollars every two months for medication when you don't have money for the things that you need to survive in life. Paying rent, buying food those are things you need to survive. Suboxones you don't need to have them to survive. I am fed up with the people that don't truly enjoy life I got a second chance after cancer and all I hear is all these people that chose to do drugs complaining about how bad their lives are because they're going through withdrawals. Suck it up life in a box of chocolates.

[@barb7124]

​@gandalfthegrey4 wow calling people at the lowest point in their lives weak and telling them to suck it up? Youre so strong arent you. People like you keep people that need compassion and help from asking for it for fear of judgement and stigma. Why not help others instead of looking down on them as pathetic? "I have no sympathy" well I hope life never gets so bad for you that you consider ending it.

[@Just_Jess]

It's not fucking easy at all! ADHD SUCKS! I have zero time management skills, my executive function is nonexistent...ugh, I felt this so much!

[@meganeff]

Dude I actually taught myself how to sense time! Idk if you struggle with timeblindness, but it was making me late for everything (if I even remembered what I had planned for the day). I’ve been working hard on it. I used to set a timer for 10 minutes and then forget what it was for by the time it went off, and it would always shock me how fast the time went. Now I can predict when the timer is about to ring! I’m super proud of this. I’m still late, but hey. I can tell & sense time now haha.

[@Just_Jess]

@@meganeff yes I am always late, well I was but now that I'm finally on medication just that alone has helped me so much with being more organized. But I just got my official diagnosis & started medication 3 months ago. I'm 39yrs old and have struggled with the constant chaos my entire life without it being detected.

[@meganeff]

@@Just_Jess not gonna lie, I'm partial to the chaos. I am so used to chaos that I don't think I could live life without it. When there isn't enough chaos, I self-sabotage like a mother. Don't get me wrong! I don't want capital 'C' chaos, but I love me some lowercase 'c' chaos. You know the kind, doing one more task before you leave for an an appointment when you definitely don't have the time for it. Because I know I will create chaos here, I write down that my appointment starts at 1 but it really doesn't start until 1:15 (I always switch it up too so I never remember the actual time haha). Or my favorite, starting a task like washing the dishes then remembering you need to put the dish towels in the dryer so you do that, then you vacuum the laundry room because ew it is so gross, then oh! the towels are done, let's carry them to the bedroom, decide to vacuum there because ew it's dusty, notice you have quite a collection of glasses of half-drank water so back to the kitchen to wash some more dishes. I know you know what I mean. Instead of resisting that shit, I plan for it. I stop resisting the present moment, and go with the flow (within my planned parameters - usually, I set a timer for 30 min or 45 min to take a break, and then I restart the cycle). I call this calculated chaos. 😂

[@Just_Jess]

@@meganeff oh yes after 39 years I couldn't survive without some chaos because I've had it unintentionally my entire life. That chaos is what led me to my addiction to begin with, I was enticed by the lifestyle as crazy as that sounds. I didn't have any trauma, my home life was as close to storybook perfect as possible, etc. My mental health going undiagnosed is how I got there.

[@benink5690]

Suboxone should be OTC. Well, I believe every drug should be OTC. But subs DEFINITELY should be!

[@dhall4001]

Why is two mg the lowest dose available? It’s as if this medication was designed for you to be on it forever. Is it not possible to make a 1mg strip? I’m fully aware that you taper by cutting the film (which works fine for those who may not know) but in the instructions for suboxone use, it specifically says not to cut the film. If the lowest dose available is 2mg and you’re not supposed to cut the film, how can they expect anyone to get off of this. I can’t wrap my brain around it (their instruction). I’ve listened to healthcare professionals talk about tapers and I don’t understand how one goes below 2mg w/o cutting the film. For those who have tried to taper off subs legitimately, what do the drs do after 2mg?

[@meganeff]

They tell you to take half of it. 🤦🏼‍♀️ You make a great point that I never considered! I wonder what their justification is.

[@DeRock401]

If I’m sick , I’m going to the sub doctor no matter what lol.

[@vendwin]

There always seems to be a barrier with MAT or anything controlled by the DEA. It’s easier to get illegal drugs. My clinic only met by telemedicine once every 90-120 days and was never drug tested but getting a refill was a major hassle and expensive and once I lost my insurance and got Medicaid they cut me off and I didn’t want to deal with a new provider so I went thru withdrawal 120 days off tomorrow was on subs for 3.5 yes. I realize I’m more likely to use again than not but the thought of having to go through it again is insanity

[@meganeff]

I’m so sorry to hear this! But I know how it goes. I hope you turn back to MAT before using again. It’s a losing game to relapse these days. Edit - also, if by chance you do relapse, please carry narcan and find fentanyl test strips. There are lots of non profits that provide them for free online if you watch a training video. Sending you lots of love!

[@Inspiringami]

It feels very good to hear someone else’s similar struggles. I get fired up when talking about my suboxone story too ❤thanks for validating me. I came off of it in April. I sometimes wonder if I’d be better off on suboxone because of how intensely depressed and crazy feelings I’ve been experiencing without it🤷‍♀️ I’ll definitely go back to suboxone before I do something else. ❤

[@iheartherbs]

Working out, even walking helps tremendously with emotional health. Also, look into herbs that help produce dopamine such as ashwaganda, rhodiola, vitamin B, and most importantly prayer. I pray you do not go back on it as it deteriorates your health and destroys your teeth. Eventually suboxone would have burned out your dopamine receptors and takes a few years to repair. Stay strong on your path to recovery and I promise you will not regret it. Most people never make it off this drug and have a much shorter life expectancy. You did the right thing and are actually blessed to be off of it ❤

[@IntuitiveTarotFairy11]

Awe…..I haven’t seen any videos from you in such a long time! You look Amazing! 💜 I’m sorry about the doctor situation. I feel like doctors always make everything way more complicated than it needs to be. It’s nice to see you back 🥰

[@meganeff]

Thank you so much!! Everyone keeps commenting on my looks, but I needed a shower so badly when I filmed this. Shhh...don't tell anyone! 🤫 I went on a hike & decided to film on a whim haha. 😂

[@ethancowart6765]

It’s super easy to get never had one issue getting it in my life . Benzos are harder to get when I needed them. And that’s cuz those are schedule 4 subs are schedule 3 .

[@89visionartistry89]

I love my Sub doc but I have had issues of course lol. I was struggling immensely with my mental health I have Schizoaffective, ADHD and OCD. I was never medicated for any of it and long story short ended up an opiate addict. I got clean when I actually had my first psychotic episode after I stopped using. I was hospitalized after an unalive attempt and I didn’t even have drugs in my system but I was out of my mind literally, so I told them lol. They set me up with a psychiatrist + psychologist but the wait was long and the medication was like $500 a month I didn’t have coverage yet, freaking impossible. That’s how I ended up with my sub doc. He attempted to treat my other issues while I was waiting for the psych appointment. Now I see a psychiatrist, I do tele-health CBT therapy and I see him. I agreed for them to communicate so they each know what’s going on. While my psychiatrist was on leave my sub doc took care of everything. I also take a low dose antipsychotic and ADHD med. More than once though my doc has asked about things in my system. Once he said I dropped for PCP, I’ve never even seen effing PCP, I read in my record he believed me though. A few times he’s said “there’s amphetamines in your system.” I’m like yeah the Adderal? In my record it was marked as a failed UA though so who knows.

[@youareawesomethankyouforge8803]

Wow, what a lovely lady to spread her sickness to you.

[@FisK919]

After 8 years, how are your teeth?

[@JesusMyLord37]

How have you kept your teeth so nice on suboxone do u have dentures

[@meganeff]

No dentures as of now. Suboxone has made a lot of my fillings fall out. Thankfully I had a solid foundation of teeth before I started Suboxone.

[@JesusMyLord37]

@meganeff men and women have to take hormone therapy, for me I should of been on testosterone a low dose from the beginning and I wouldn't of started losing my teeth, extremely low testosterone causes osteoporosis and tooth loss decay. If you take a small amount of testosterone, at least for guys it helps to get off it too, makes my withdrawal really easier. And makes being on methadone or subs way easier, so you can work and manage your life. At least for me. I wish I started it from the beginning, alot of unessesary suffering that could be prevented.

[@z7a0c7k]

I’ve lost all my f**king teeth because of Suboxone…

[@Rikki-Chik]

I've been on Subs for 4 years (this time). My brother has been taking it for 8 years and is on an unheard of amount! His issues with getting his script run deep. My question is why are they perscribing it for this long?! Its made for 4-6 month weening or tapering. But see, I'm an addict. I'm not trying to take the hard road to recovery when it comes to Opiate withdrawal. I'm not trying to tell my doc that I shud be weening. I'm scared to be honest. But I/we shud be saying something. Again, it was only made to be used for 4-6 months treatment. A process in which we are weened. Look at all the problems it causes! I can go on and on about the issues I've dealt with concerning the doctors, my insurance, the pharmacies & evil pharmacists treating me like a junkie, traveling, appointment scheduling that coincides with my refill dates...ect. OMFG! I hear u sister! We need to quit. Oh, that'll be lovely. Fear of relapse will always be the cloud surrounding my days and nights. It wud be nice to be free for a change. But it's better than living fearful or tempted or even worse, relapsing and living 'that' way again. 🤔 Good Luck to u. Hope things don't get harder with all the crap going on in the world today and the drug industry make it more difficult to obtain our daily needful orange savior.

[@meganeff]

It was made for the shorter duration of time until more research made it evident that 6 months isn’t long enough to get a solid foundation built in recovery and most people ended up relapsing (many of which died). The biggest benefit that comes from Suboxone is it immediately takes away cravings, which allows you the time to create new neural pathways related to a sober life. But they take time to really take hold especially when your brain is used to being short circuited by the dump of dopamine that drugs gives you. Without Suboxone you have to suffer with a dopamine-deprived brain, which is what is so painful about getting clean. Suboxone gives you the dopamine to function, and if taken per label use it should have minimal to no euphoria.

[@Rikki-Chik]

@@meganeff if I stop and actually think about the whole recovery from Opiate addiction, I come to a conclusion that there really isn't a "back to normal". I believe our brains are and always will be broken due to Opiates. Cravings, physical and mental, will always be there. Suboxone really does help mask those cravings. Got me thinking there should be a better, more long term, if not indefinite prescription. No matter how long we're on Subs, it will always be hard to stay clean once we stop. Maybe I'm speculating, or maybe I'm being a pessimist. I don't think so. 🤔 I'm being realistic in my expectations of recovering from long term heroin addiction. Will we ever be free again? Can we just live normal lives without the bs that comes with obtaining Suboxone. Probly not. One of the many prices we pay for having this disease. I just moved to another state and im ready for this to be a problem. Makes me quite nervous to be honest. Thanx for sharing yur knowledge. It's got me thinking differently on whole process, especially term timage. Who am i kidding, shit, I can't even cut back the smallest amount in the 4 years I've been taking it. If anything, my tolerance is climbing. Again, I thank u on the info.

[@Rikki-Chik]

@@meganeff... and yeah, I dont get high from Subs. I take them like I'm supposed to (8ml-bup/2ml-nal) a day. Well, maybe I cut a little piece off at night to help me sleep here and there. But I definitely don't abuse them as I have in the far past. Not this time around. I'm sure there are those who do.

[@coryfulloheart581]

4 to 6 months is definitely not long enough Meg is right about everything she wrote in her comment

[@Hollie27grl]

Omg this whole nurse practitioner thing and not seeing the doctor for a long time is amazing because that has happened to me. I left that place and started winging myself off subs. It was so hard. I started taking Keaton and it has got me off subs which I was on for 3 1/2 years.

[@Jesus1sLord777]

I guess some states are different than others, but you would not have that problem if you lived in Philly!...

[@SAMEntalhealth]

I totally feel this. Seriously. I never missed one urine, just 2 appointments spaced out months apart, dr douchebag , even though the 2 times I needed to reschedule, our work van broke down. And second time I overslept because they gave me remeron. I STILL showed up both days with my urine. Mind you the time i overslept, I came in not even 20 minutes after my appointment. This douchebag doctor, holds my script for 3 days. Nurses loved me, they said "sweety you still faberge gotten your med yet???? We sent in 4 times! This POS doctor after the nurses had asked him why my abrupt wasn't in. Doctor says, "you've been non compliant so ivee been rejecting your script" nurse was like why didn't you tell us and him?!" I was in SEVERE WITHDRAWAL. After like 18 visits at that point, they still had me on weekly appointments. Even though my urine was always fine. I almost lost my job because of them!!! And the second time which was when he said I was "non compliant ", he said go to the ER see if they'll send your script in" took me 6 hours in the E.R. and they originally weren't going to give my script but I was friends with 2 of the doctors, and used to work at that hospital. I got lucky. I can't stand it

[@Jeff-sp7bg]

Go somewhere else

[@geekinhard343]

Have you had any issues with your teeth decaying? They have lawsuits now. If you were on it for 6 months or more and have lost teeth you qualify for a settlement. Im just worried its causing my teeth to fall apart. Because it saved me and has changed my life so much I dont want to have to quit and relapse. I hope that doesnt happen.

[@christopherbrock8913]

Are you serious? I have been on Suboxone for 6 years - I have lost 3 teeth over the past 2 years - and the only thing that kept running through my mind was (I wonder if these Suboxone everyday having some kind of effect on my teeth and gums)

[@tylerpool5464]

@@christopherbrock8913 yeah subs ruin everyone's teeth.get on the lawsuit it isn't hard at all and they're going to win.

[@tigerteche85]

​@@tylerpool5464 ARE YOU ON THE LAWSUIT? IF SO WHAT DID YPU HAVE TO TELL THE LAWYERS ON YOUR FIRST CASE ASSESSMENT FORM?

[@briantate122]

5 years on it and numerous teeth issues. Who do I contact about this issue because I’m just tired of depending on a dr

[@tylerpool5464]

@@briantate122 probably a lawyer for the suit, I think you can Google suboxone law suit and you’ll find it , as for the teeth good ol dentist. I’m getting off this shit to I’ve noticed I have little holes in the bottom of my back teeth. Thankfully my smile looks fine but I can tell they’re sensitive as hell

[@amandaruck9744]

OMG I know!! Every psychiatrist I’ve had but MY FIRST one back in 2008 has dropped me FOR being on MAT! “ The contraindications are too serious…” BS! I’m not taking benzos WITH my ORT, but “sorry, our hands are tied.” 🤬🤬🤬

[@IndependentArmz]

People need to learn accountability. That includes realizing life isn't fair as you see it.

[@user-pw6bk9td8y]

I have a question does suboxone ruin your teeth or make your teeth fall out

[@deeceee5347]

It does. It destroys your teeth.

[@meganeff]

My teeth are terrible, but I can’t say for sure it is because of the Suboxone. I think it is definitely a factor in it, but I know that my biggest cause is when I struggled with my health from 2020-2022. I had ?complications post-Covid and had heart issues, I was anemic, I had vertigo, & I developed POTS. My diet was crap because I was struggling with disordered eating from the stress of all of it…I’m talking no protein, no iron, no veggies/fruit. Those 2ish years did the most damage to my teeth.

[@zeej80]

I have been on Subs for 8/9 years,& my teeth are absolutely awful. Gonna get my 1st tooth pulled as an adult (I’m 44) next week.

[@meganeff]

@zeej80 my teeth are breaking out of my mouth, but Idk if I can blame Suboxone. I struggle with disordered eating (called ARFID)because of my sensory issues. It messed up diet and my health. I wasn’t getting enough nutrients and my teeth went from being fine to having 5 broken. I had my front teeth fixed but I am banned from the dentist for 6 months because I missed my last appointment. They would only fill one cavity per appointment and had me going in monthly. It was a weird place.

[@t-and-p]

Not sure if it will help anyone, but the next video recommended for me after this one is by someone called "Dolman Law Group" talking about a class action lawsuit against the makers of Suboxone for the dental problems it has caused patients. I can't vouch for the video (I've no who this law group are or what the validity of the case is), but for anyone affected by this, it might be worth getting on Google and finding out what's going on. If your teeth have been ruined, purely because you tried to get help, and nobody warned you about this potential side effect, then you deserve to at least have your dental bills paid and your teeth put right. I think that fixing what they broke is the least they can do if they've caused you unnecessary suffering... Wishing you all good luck 🍀💖

[@Crossbridges80]

It’s because it’s all about the money for them they don’t care about people and they’re life

[@sspecmedia]

MEGAN, Are you in California? MY Dr is Top Tier and VERY understanding plus ALWAYS shows up. I can def refer you if you need

[@DCrane925]

You're Dr you loved sounds like my Dr. Which I have not seen him in a couple years and I did telahealth with a couple different nurse practitioners and they all sucked. I finally have a good np but I miss my Dr so much I've been his patient for eight years. I saw him every 2 weeks cuz he will only do two weeks at a time as well but it's every 2 weeks all the 8 yrs which is kinda annoying but oh well. I had a relapse with alcohol and a a white powdery substance you know what I mean anyway when that happened I was given only a week at a time ugh. Not for punishment but more like them wanting to keep an eye on me making sure I'm okay cuz I was a hot mess constantly relapsing on basically everything except opiates cuz the subs for the first few years. Problem is I was sober the last 3 and a half years before my relapse which was 6 months ago and he's still only giving me a weeks worth. Ugh. Anyway I love my Dr even though I haven't seen or spoke to him in a couple years 😢 It's a good program they're very supportive and treats their patients like adults and as long as the other patients and myself are honest about slips relapses they'll work with you. Yeah but I wanna get off the subs so bad but I'm scared. I know it's gradual and I'll probably be ok I've had sub withdrawal a couple times and for me I felt so much worse withdrawal symptoms than actual opiates. But when that happend I took it after not having it for a week and got so fuked up from it for like 2 days. I'm not going to lie it felt good I was thinking about getting the sublucade I think it's called. The monthly injections Idk I'm still on the fence Anyone reading this thanks for putting up with my long winded speech 😂❤

[@erikfreezer6282]

Think TWICE about these implants- they block your natural endorphines too. Naltrexone I think is the substance. Seen a guy cut that outta his arm. Dont rush the withdrawal, go slow n steady. Just my 2 cents. Be blessed

[@chrisabbott1794]

I do bicycle health for subs . They take a lot of insurance.

[@meganeff]

This is who I went with! I love my provider.

[@chrisabbott1794]

@@meganeff sweet ! I’m glad your also having good results with them . They are life savers .

[@kanikanewsome6305]

I have a new person to follow I feel so safe and I have something to look forward to thank you

[@-g-lock813]

5 yrs on sublocade now _____ i love it~!!!!!

[@themulti-coloredcanary5795]

I'm on year too of The injection and I totally agree. Last month we cut my dose by half and I have not felt any negative emotions or any negative physical symptoms at all! I was on the tablets for a long time and I thought this was going to be difficult making the switch but it wasn't. I'm going to cut my dose in half hopefully in 4 months and then I'm just going to jump off I think. I have a really good medical team and I know that if I do start to experience withdrawal they will do whatever it takes to stop it! I think this drug is a miracle!

[@BptBob]

Hell of a combo! Duel addiction!

[@CoreySchmick444]

I am looking into the Sublocade shot, its scary but its the next step. It helped me to look at it this way, these are all steps on the path to get better, do you want to be on these pills the rest of your life? I thought the same thing, but I am starting to see negative effects from my meds, specifically the suboxone. It did help me tremendously in the beggining of my recovery process, but it might be time to change. I wish you the best!

[@invisible3456]

Hope you get/got it. I got a single shot, 3 months ago, i feel fine and im off suboxone. It was a miracle

[@CoreySchmick444]

@@invisible3456 how much Soboxonr did you take per day?

[@richlewis1879]

I went 11 months paying full pharmacy price for subs. You have no choice

[@meganeff]

Yep, the most I ever paid was $500/month without insurance for the meds and $250 for the the doctor visit. That is what I pay in rent!! And technically that was only for one of us. I have a video on here about my pregnancy. I shared my prescription with Greg because of the absurd cost, but I paid severely for that choice. I didn’t have $1500 to drop on Suboxone. The only reason I paid $750 is because I was pregnant and didn’t want to hurt my unborn child.

[@richlewis1879]

We might as well be twins. I saw same doctor for subs for 18 years. She retired during the pandemic. You wanna talk about your heart dropping!!!! Good luck dear

[@meganeff]

I hope you were able to get it all sorted out!

[@richlewis1879]

@@meganeff I did. It's way more of a pain now, but I have no choice.

[@phoenixlynx8549]

I understand suboxone can be helpful for people getting off opiates but it should not be allowed to be prescribed or taken for that long 😢

[@meganeff]

But what alternative does that leave someone? Relapse and die? Taking Suboxone greatly reduces the risk of fatal overdoses. Suboxone does way more than help you detox. It buys you time to let your brain heal. Recovery is way more than simply not using. And addiction short-circuited our brain's reward center. Your recovery journey is unique to you and is dependent on what your addiction journey looked like. Some people will only need a few weeks until they reach a point in their life where they feel stable enough to not need MAT. On the flip side, there are some that will need years, and others will never be stable enough and need it for the rest of their lifetime. My life has been upended countless times in the last 8 years. There is no way in hell I'm getting off Suboxone until I know my mental health won't collapse under the immense amount of stress. I've lost 20+ friends to overdoses & suicides. I had a baby & moved 9 hours away. I've changed careers 4 times and am now also self-employed with clients of my own. Plus that whole pandemic thing & some shit I won't share on KZbin. I also know that I will likely overdose & die if I relapse. I've tapered my dose down to 3 mg (started at 20 mg). I'm more than happy to stay on Suboxone a few more years until I feel more stable again.

[@phoenixlynx8549]

@@meganeff So I understand what you're saying & that's a valid point, but a life long reliance on a substance (even if it's deemed 'safe' or 'safer' than an 'illicit' substance) is still not recovery. It's management. Yeah, that's perfect for keeping people alive. But is it optimal? No. And we should strive for better for ourselves and others.

[@skinsciencebymira]

@@phoenixlynx8549 you don’t define what recovery is though. That’s for everyone to define for themselves alongside their medical team, therapist, and/or sponsor. Why should she go off a medication that is working for her just to meet your narrow definition of “recovered?” Buprenorphine is a partial agonist, she’s not getting high and isn’t in an altered state. It helps prevent relapse while stopping both acute withdrawal and PAWS associate with endorphin defiency, something that causes 90% of opioid addicts to relapse within a year. It’s also used off label for depression. I have many friends and family who were given their life back thanks to MAT and it’s just mind boggling to me that people see someone who is clean and a participating member of society and their response is “oh but you’re on medication still.” Would you rather she relapse and die just so she can be clean by your standards?

[@NothingLeftToDoButWin]

Wow. I’m 8 years also. Working a great job and taking care of my family. Wish I was brave enough to speak out like you.

[@ec9833]

@@phoenixlynx8549 woah. I think you left some really critical pieces of your response out, in order for it not to come off as a judgmental, shaming & hollow, misguided, uneducated, harm perpetuating opinion. -What do you KNOW that’s better? What are millions of people, fighting to stay alive with what’s available to them, to which is NOT equitable to all, doing so wrong and what information do you have, that IS equitable, that will give them a better existence, less of a struggle, more freedom & a straighter line to good mental health? Don’t keep it a secret. What do we need to do that’s better than the absolute HELL that is our struggling mental health conditions where, IF we’re fortunate enough to even find medicinal supports, supports that, guaranteed, WILL shift unexpectedly from beneath our feet & affect every single aspect of our lives & the lives of those closest to us, IF we’re fortunate enough to find QUALITY, EFFECTIVE mental health supports, be able to AFFORD any of it, to which are absolutely ELUSIVE and SPARSE & to which innumerable ppl need and most do not find…should any of us be fortunate enough to have any portion of what’s “available”, struggling through these processes of finding these things, to which is an absolute, never ending nightmare to track down any portion of…what part of all of this are we doing so wrong and what is it that YOU know we could do so much better?? WTAF? Better? Try watching what you say, taking your and other’s words as seriously as they are potent to affect each person in our society and at the very least, abandon your biases enough to perform true due diligence, becoming informed on all sides of a subject as serious as surviving disordered mental health and DO BETTER before you demand as much, hollowly, from anyone else. You and those that parrot similar, PERPETUATE THE STRUGGLE YOU WOULDN’T KNOW. Your words are DANGEROUS and they DO aid in ending lives. I kid you not. I do not say that lightly. Tell your friends.

[@kennethgreen1456]

Sounds like you make things a little more difficult than they have to be. Just go to your appointments whether you’re sick or not and you won’t have this issue. Showing up is half the battle

[@meganeff]

Dude, it was the beginning of the pandemic. Do you remember when the world shut down for a month?

[@BLUEGENE13]

I hope your doing ok, you do seem up beat despite it all. You have a happy spirit! Thats a great quality to have

[@meganeff]

Thanks. I’m doing well these days.

[@pokeitwithastick7869]

its called adderall

[@cindyeyre8483]

Did u have any side effects from it? Insomnia or weight gain hormones??? I really wanna start it!

[@boudreaux_nunu]

They dont care about people,just all about money

[@maryshellsmith6627]

My doctor does tele-health, even now, after the pandemic. I only go in about 5-6 times per year, when they need a UA, or if I have to see the doctor. The rest of my appointments are over the phone. It’s $180/month for the doctor, plus the price of the prescription, which varies, depending on which insurance I have.

[@Skankhunt-hl9zj]

I go once a week until I build trust with my mat program the state pays for most of it I’m supposed to pay 5% and I get my subs for free. It’s been working well but I feel I can’t be too honest with my doctor she’s annoying. I wanna go up a dose but idk how I’m supposed to ask. I’m on 12 mg right now.

[@maryshellsmith6627]

@@Skankhunt-hl9zj I wouldn’t be able to go once per week with work, or be able to afford paying the outrageous fees they charge each week. I’ve been on subs for 14 years- I am outraged when I call places and they want to treat me as if I’m new to it. No, you can never be totally truthful to doctors. Also, try to save an emergency stash, you will likely need it one day if there is ever an insurance issue, or if your Sub doctor suddenly stops prescribing it, or for other reasons. People act like Subs are a bad drug, when what they are is a lifesaving medication.

[@Skankhunt-hl9zj]

@@maryshellsmith6627 I’m lucky I don’t have insurance but I went through a program in Florida and I get most of my stuff payed for the subs are free and the doctors stuff is for the most part I only have to pay 5% I’m gonna try to say a stash though. I wanna get my mgs upped but idk what how to ask got any tips?

[@vuli1647]

shit, insurance system in usa is so fucked up

[@maryshellsmith6627]

@@vuli1647 It really is. But in this case, it’s the Suboxone office that doesn’t accept insurance AT ALL. Cash or card, only. I could submit it to my insurance, but they aren’t in network. So yes, it costs me $180/month, plus my co-pay for the medication itself, which is $20/month now. Oh, and they used to prescribe for a “month”, and I’d get enough for thirty days. Now, they only prescribe for 28 days, because my appointment is every 28 days. The drug store literally opens the box and takes those extra two day’s worth of Suboxone out, so I have NO extra. I still pay the same for the co-pay though, even with two days less of medication. It’s DISGUSTING. But, I’ve been on it going on 15 years now, so I would never be able to get off of it at this point. It really has helped me, though, a lot. And I guess I’m fortunate that I’m able to be on it, because I’m sure there are many that want it, but are unable to get it.

[@maryshellsmith6627]

I see it’s not just me who gets riled up about Suboxone.

[@2lucki333]

What state do you live in? In California urine tests for a drug screen are free for patients since the insurance covers it.

[@meganeff]

Pennsylvania

[@alexwyler4570]

Can you see a PA instead of a NP if you can not see an MD? the PA is a lot more likely to have a MD/DO on speed dial.

[@meganeff]

I can if there happens to be one in my area. I know that they changed the guidelines and practioners can see 30 or less patients without getting that special waiver/certification or whatever. This was done to increase the availability of Suboxone. I guess any doctor with a DEA prescribing license can now see patients (but no more than 30 at one time), but I'm unsure if treatment with them is temporary and to be used in emergency situations when someone is first starting Suboxone or if they can see these 30 patients for the long-haul. Either way, I found a telehealth provider that has exceeded my expectations (albeit with quite a few hurdles to jump in order to get started and a VERY high price tag). I only agreed to their terms because my insurance covers the appointment. Otherwise it is $199/session, and I have to be seen weekly to start! Being seen weekly is annoying, but at least I can do it from my home. Same goes for the UAs - they are done at home too, but there is a $30 fee if you're not insured. Anyway, long story short - I had my first session with my doctor today (the last few days I was working with someone in intake/enrollment *thanks Peter!*). The guy told me this doctor was great, but I figured he was just making small talk and being nice. Nope, I was wrong. This woman has already made me feel more seen, safe, & valid than any other MAT provider I've ever had. I would take that as far as any other doctor I've had. I'm super excited to work with her & hope it goes well. tl;dr - PA's can probably prescribe under doctor supervision as most dr's can see up to 30 patients without certification (due to opioid epidemic's high death toll). But I signed up for telehealth and my dr is the best dr ever. Like ever EVER. I'm a happy girl.

[@richlewis1879]

Classes and meetings are useless. It's up to us. Period

[@slayinbass2396]

Suboxone should be dirt cheap and available over the counter. It's complete BS the way it is handled. I got off Suboxone 8 years ago now. I used Kratom and still use kratom instead. It works great and you don't need a doctor to get it. Kratom is also much easier to quit than Suboxone. I would recommend it to anyone thats on suboxone.

[@deryatanbasi3046]

where do you get it?

[@slayinbass2396]

@@deryatanbasi3046 Online, just google it. Theres tons of places.

[@kaseywilliams6330]

yeah try getting off the kratom let me know how that goes its hell

[@gingerroot8802]

Kratom gave me hairloss and messed with my thyroid levels horribly. It is not 100% safe.. I have a better reaction to suboxone and am more functional. Not dosing every 2 hours on that green sludge.

[@barb7124]

I began suboxone to get off kratom due to the cost. Suboxone is covered by insurance vs me spending hundreds on kratom extracts.

[@KagomeYasha023]

They thought I was autistic adhd and 5 different anxiety and panic disorders and then went to a different psychiatrist and was diagnosed bipolar type II and cut out most of the first medications I was on and got on a mood stabilizer and an antidepressant/anti anxiety all non narcotic and was so much better doesn’t mean it’s the same for everyone obviously but the adderall was making me crazy and bringing out autistic symptoms

[@meganeff]

Ahh, that makes sense. I haven’t been on Adderall for over 2 years now. It worked really well for me for 13 years. At first I was angry that I was forced to stop due to a scheduling error, but I adjusted. Finding a new doctor/psychiatrist required too much executive functioning, and I haven’t been driven enough to take all the steps. I recently started taking college classes again. I’m working on becoming a Certified Recovery Specialist (aka a recovery coach certified by my state’s board). Stepping back into the higher education arena reminded me quickly why I was prescribed Adderall. All of my symptoms/struggles showed up again despite the fact that I’ve felt mentally stable & resilient the last few years without medication. I already called my insurance provider to find in-network psychiatrists, and I have called at least 2 of them (out of a total of 6 doctors). I started this process last Friday and have considered making another call, but here I am. I am aware now that being in school upped the ante for me. If I continue feeling/ struggling like I have been, I will find the desire & drive to call those doctors. I was missing that part the last 2 years, hence why I am still unmedicated. Side note, although I am uneducated, I haven’t stopped “treating” my ADHD. I still work with a therapist and use the life skills & thought work I’ve learned over the years. I felt like that was worth mentioning.

[@jaredtyler7842]

I'm dealing with this issue like every month I have to pick my friggen ADD meds up. It's something different every time.

[@meganeff]

I stopped trying a year ago because of that shit with the adhd meds. I didn’t have enough spoons/mental bandwidth to deal with 2 meds like that.

[@pronoun_]

I know what this feels like... exactly... but hey, have you thought about withdrawing from adderral?

[@meganeff]

I stopped taking it after this video. I did get back on it for a month, but then the doctor’s office announced they were relocating to Maryland so I didn’t go back. I’ve never had an issue getting on or off it. I was prescribed it for 13 years, but I took “medication vacations” periodically to avoid developing a higher tolerance. All that being said, I decided recently that I want to get back on it. The wonderful part of having ADHD means that it will likely take me awhile to make it happen. There are just too many steps. They aren’t hard steps, but there are enough steps to overwhelm me into avoiding taking action. You’d think that being self-aware of this would help me overcome the cycle, but it doesn’t seem to be true for me. My self-awareness is more often a burden than a benefit.

[@sdeleon19]

Do you have any videos about taking adderall with suboxone??? I’ve been on subs for five years and have recently been diagnosed w adhd… I’m concerned about taking both meds…

[@meganeff]

I’ve taken both for many years. I can make a video about my experience.

[@NotreDame-uw5di]

Hey Megan, how did everything end up shaking out with your doc? Are u still on Suboxone?

[@meganeff]

I am. I found a telehealth provider that I truly love, Bicycle Health. My insurance covers the visits too, which is nice.

[@oliverburns3756]

marketplace insurance claim u make the min. 14k per year on your profile. when u make more change your profile to reflect that. af 54k you still have a subsity but its much less But better than nothing.

[@pngersss]

Oh I feel ya! I was on 36 msg of suboxne and my dr up and left town! Said this is your last prescription bye! I was so mad! But it was a blessing cuz I found a wonderful dr. 4 hrs away only prob is he just retired so now I’m seeing another dr.

[@tammyforbes2101]

Mine got indicted by the states attorney left me high and dry after he had been robbing Medicare for a while! Charging 10 drug test a week and stuff like that. Assholes man.

[@slayinbass2396]

Switch to kratom. I did 8 years ago and it is much better. I hated those expensive doctors appointments, meetings, and time spent doing them. Kratom can be ordered online and it works.

[@dhall4001]

@@slayinbass2396 what mg of subs were you on when you switched to kratom? Just a side note: kratom withdrawals can be pretty gnarly themselves if you’re taking it daily for a while. it is 💯 a good resource for mitigating withdrawal from harder stuff, but I’ve read/heard about a lot of non-addicts taking kratom and have zero idea what they could be getting into. It’s also marketed as like a health supplement, holistic pain reliever, natural energy enhancer, etc., but it is potentially addictive (depends on the individual) and you will undoubtedly experience physical withdrawals after enough use

[@dhall4001]

36mg a day? There is a ceiling effect after 16mg and I’ve read that 24mg can be used in a small % of cases, but 36mg makes zero sense to me. Not saying you’re lying but please elaborate on the situation, b/c it seems like you are from my perspective.

[@slayinbass2396]

@@dhall4001 I tapered suboxone until I hit .5mg a day then switched to kratom. I would use kratom with suboxone during the taper If I needed it. I would never recommend someone that is not already on pain killers or suboxone/methadone to start taking kratom. It is addicting and does have withdrawal. The withdrawals are pretty mild compared to suboxone withdrawal and don't last very long. My brother used kratom to get off opiates and he continued taking it for a couple years and when he stopped it he had no withdrawal at all. He would take kratom 3 times a day and take a pretty mild dose and he had no issues getting off. Kratom is not perfect by any means and has it's down sides but it works when done right.

[@nicolefuller3021]

Aegis medical does both US and Canade no therapy i do telehealth monthly. Takes lots of ins no copays for most. Then go bck to your pcp for Adderall n female meds...

[@2lucki333]

You need to find a new Dr honey

[@sofiajohnson197]

I know it’s hard. I just lost my doctor too.

[@2lucki333]

You need report that last cash clinic to the District attorney babe. It’s not $100 for a UA it shouldn’t be more than $10 at the very most girl

[@meganeff]

You’re probably right but my small town needs all the sub clinics it can get.

[@nonyabusiness7200]

Also they have to give u more than a month if ur travelling for a funeral.... If ur in Florida i can help u. Or ohio.

[@TShaloma]

They are paid more for office visits so they are not flexible if it affects their money in anyway. The people that actually care are there, but they are usually the ones on the bottom with little to no decision making power so at least you get some level of empathy at times. However, they are overworked & underpaid and they don’t last very long;Turnover is ridiculous. They’re just a legal dope dealer, with shitty dope lol. They don’t care if you come back because they know you will, and if not, no one cares; there are hordes of other people willing take your place. It’s really a disgusting industry.

[@londonrenea3689]

What milligram do you take?

[@psychopathiiic]

I go to a "government" run program (I guess that's what you'd call it idk 🤷🏻‍♀️) & they cover the cost of the suboxone & the doctor visits, I only have to pay for the psych medication she prescribes.. I had no problem doing telehealth thru them & she'll give me up to a month at a time if I want to but I go every 2 weeks.. as long as my tests are clean she'll fill the prescription up to a month at a time.. & I have no insurance.. I hope you can figure it out tho that fucking sucks 😔

[@meganeff]

Are you in the US??

[@meganeff]

I wonder if PA has government run programs!! I'm going to have to look into this.

[@user-of8zk1oo2f]

So sign up for Medicaid or obamacare easy

[@meganeff]

I was on medical assistance at the time.