#82 VW ID Buzz road trip to Arctic Circle part 2

[@stefang5639]

Man, there should be a camping mode in the Buzz for overnight heating just like in Teslas.

[@amirshahab3400]

Somebody kindly send a list of requests to VW Developers! Reach out via social media. This function could be implemented as software, then quality tested by them for a few months. Before next SW update.

[@nohcam22]

With the Buzz being the perfect vehicle to sleep in, idk why they didn’t add it.

[@countpalatine8092]

@@nohcam22 Its VW. You have to pay extra for this /s

[@schunkelndedschunke6914]

...and one or two 230V AC power suplies inside the car...Man its a Buzz !!!! No Buzz deal without that.

[@countpalatine8092]

@@schunkelndedschunke6914 Maybe VW will make this exclusively in his Buzz California models

[@VanaPica]

Mercedes winter test team watches Bjorn's video's. Should be considered an honour.

[@nixer89]

For all asking the question about power consumption in the night: you can get a glimpse of the car scanner in the morning which shows ~37.5kwh. 00:21 a.m.: 58.3 kwh 08:00 a.m.: 37.5 kwh used in 7h40 minutes: 20.8 kwh which equals to 2.71 kwh / PER HOUR (thanks german car makers!) With my Model Y I used around 1.1kwh (per hour) near Lillehammer at -9°C in Camp-Mode. advantage Model Y: heat pump! + smaller cabin to heat

[@darekmistrz4364]

Thanks for this calculation. Yeah you can see just before him going to sleep that Aux consumption hovers around 2.7 kW.

[@nixer89]

@@darekmistrz4364 oh yeah, you are correct. Didn't had to calculate then :D btw, 20.8 kwh equals to 27% on a 77kwh net capacity pack of the VW ID Buzz. So Bjorn used 27% of the battery capacity in only 8 hours. When I was camping, I was stationary (camping) for ~ 15h and used only 20% to 22% of the Model Y LR battery capacity. that is such a huge difference.

[@darekmistrz4364]

@@nixer89 Definetly, this is also important factor in situations when there is traffic stuck on highway for many hours because of some big accident like in beginning of 2022 on I-95 in Virginia

[@shmadmanuts]

@@nixer89 depends on outside temperature, heat loss surface and insulation. iD buzz might be a bit bigger than a model Y.

[@vishalprajapati8840]

@@nixer89 I guess this can be explained by heat pump og no heat pump 😉

[@richh650]

Thank you for making these incredible videos, Bjorn!!!

[@Wattwurm0815]

By far the best entertainer and ev tester ever, thank you Björn for this great content👍☺

[@harvey66616]

Pro-tip on the FLIR: when you are moving the camera around to check the temperature over a large area (like, the whole interior of the Buzz), tap the "lock" symbol on the color scale on the right to prevent the camera from changing the scale as you move the camera around. The way you're doing it in this video is really misleading, because the oranges at the front of the car are hotter than the oranges at the rear. The camera is just setting the orange/red end of the scale to the hotter areas currently visible in the camera, so the rear of the car could be much cooler than the front and still look the same. Aim the camera at a relatively warm area of the car, like the front, then lock the scale so that scale's used everywhere. Then you'll have a much more intuitive view of the heat distribution as you move the camera around.

[@henrik1743]

27:42 gotta love the Merc team panicking due to running into a famous youtuber video taping their prototype car and hurrying to cover it up LMFAO

[@pawefiett2468]

Around the place you slept - one of the most beautiful pieces of the road in Norway - has kind of 'Alaskan' feeling. Long strait stretches of the road, forests and mountains in the background.

[@gzippy]

Thanks for another great video Bjorn, really unique and useful information about sleeping in the Buzz to all of us planning to use it as a camping car.

[@kirill6020]

Hello from Saint Petersburg! Your trip interesting!

[@Bud_Terence]

Have a nice trip, in german = gute Fahrt. Verry important, to not forget the "h" . 😂

[@stefanfreestylez]

"Gangbanging the chargers" too many of these gems in this video dude your a legend. Knew you were asian sound just like all my Chinese friends. Same pace of talking and same accent. Makes the jokes like 'peeing in pants to stay warm' even funnier. You earned a new subscriber.

[@danielsweb2]

I really enjoy your content Bjorn. As great as 2022 has been for you and your family, I hope 2023 is even better. Thank you for your great content!

[@jaewonchang3448]

I remember that Volvo from the Arctic Circle trip with the Model 3 long range!

[@Gritzens]

How much battery did you use during the night?

[@bjornohgren7066]

I was wondering the same.

[@StefanoGirolimetto]

@bjornnyland same :)

[@lucifermad]

Same

[@tobias..6688]

+

[@RafaBezowski]

I think Bjorn said on live stream it was average 2.7kw/h

[@runnerball9123]

Lol. ‘I think he must be afraid of the dark’ a genuine laugh out loud!!

[@_mo09]

Bjørn playing games against the car and a routeplaner who tips the best perentage at the end 🤣

[@ArtiePenguin1]

It's especially surprising since ABRP is his sponsor. Lol. But the data they have on the ID Buzz is probably pre-alpha, so the algorithm isn't that accurate.

[@Rangarid]

He could have just increased the reference consumption based on those observations and then he would have gotten more accurate values. From his values a reference consumption of 270-280 looks more reasonable and comes up with consumption values Björn had.

[@johnair1]

Great video... Buzz is iconic ⭐️🌟

[@colinmerrilees]

It really feels like the Buzz is missing a trick for its utility, where it desperately needs an external 230v power socket. I mean the fact that the van has a 100kw's of battery, but you then have to bring along 30kg of battery to heat your pizza seems completely crazy.

[@darekmistrz4364]

V2L can't come quickly enough

[@jannejarvinen790]

ID serie does not have even continues 12VDC at front, only in trunk. You wanna charge your mobile while stopping somewhere, only possible in trunk. I do not get it.

[@opkarlsen]

Asking the same as others: How did you keep the climate active during the night and how much battery did you use?

[@KekszNET]

That he forgot somehow,,, it was wo wondering me as well

[@thebinkbink6349]

Ecoflow on the seat?

[@kruemelfelix]

Switch the car into Neutral and leave the "engine" on. Then engage the parking brake without putting the car into park. This is the "Neutral trick" he mentioned and used very often already.

[@foreverwhisper]

@@kruemelfelix parking brake? Do you mean auto hold?

[@AkiKaivola]

@@foreverwhisper emergency brake / parking brake exists in every automobile. Auto hold / hill assist is a feature in some cars.

[@giri1478]

Oh what a video 2 things 1) yes the main reason we see artic circle, geilo mountain and banana box test is for the challenges Like artic circle is how well do u sleep/camp and how fast can u reach artic circle etc I like u have a neutral gear trick - but these cars shd have camp mode like system to run while sitting 2) I like we all were excited to see a secret merc car - only to be some fossil wagon car lol - it's nice it was not interesting for us😋 Thank u :)

[@ragnvaldj.kjelseth9482]

Hey Bjørn! Thanks for this test, with camping in the Buzz. Really helpfull, but unfortunately it confirmed allmost all of my conserns. But atleast good to see that you can cheat camper mode, even though I think that this gives a good bit higher energy consumption than a camper mode would. Big shame on VW for not including that as a standard. Fitted covers, as you demonstrated, would probably lower the consumption even more. I guess, on with shades on all windows would consume less than same type car with fornt side windows uncovered. And fitted ones would definitely bee the best choice. Also a big shame they didn't include V2L, as this would be perfect addition to this kind of vehicle. Anyway, top tourist advertisement for Norway with your great landscape shootings. We live in a truly beautiful country, even on cold winter days. Keep up the good work, and enjoy Thailand, another beautiful country i have had the pleasure to visit.

[@dominiklaim8504]

Dude, you're so entertaining:) love your stuff...and the pizza looks fantastic:)

[@Alleselektrisch]

you are the best tester 😂❤

[@GROGU123]

They need to make a Westfalia version of this with the popup top. EV's are perfect for National Parks here in the U.S. because you can get a cheap camp spot with RV electrical outlets. So you can charge and run the HVAC system.

[@pre38]

Love the content, best id buzz review yet. Keep it up!

[@tobias..6688]

Sometimes we have to wait for some cars, it always pays off 👍

[@julienbeyer9850]

How was the energy consumption during the night?

[@deas1972]

Maybe it was not good numbers for ID-markering?🤷

[@darekmistrz4364]

20kwh for 8 hours

[@austin2planks]

@@darekmistrz4364 ouch. Heat pump please!

[@grantlouw3182]

I think vents at the back are for the recirculating function.

[@lukyluke993]

Norway is just so beautiful. How did you keep the climate active in the end?

[@emil10139]

Good unanswered question.

[@dougfreeman6875]

He left it in neutral … don’t try on a hill! When he wakes up, you can see the orange N on the right side of the instrument cluster.

[@kruemelfelix]

@@dougfreeman6875 It's the neutral trick. You can leave it in Neutral but manually engange the parking brake. This will work also on hills :)

[@AOTanoos22]

The Mercedes EQE SUV is the first Mercedes EV on that platform with a heat pump. So expect the EQE, EQS and EQS SUV to get a heat pump too, hopefully soon.

[@IngVasiu]

I'm moving to Mo i Rana soon, to work at the gigafactory that is going to be built there.

[@james.telfer]

I'm normally quite jealous of the beautiful winter scenery but we've just had snow in the UK so it's almost as good 😀 Interesting results from the camping test and utterly ridiculous VW don't hve a camping mode in a what is designed as a CAMPER van! 🤯🤦 I was looking at one of these for the family but was an instant FAIL with the lack of rear opening windows...

[@ArtiePenguin1]

Bjorn, you have it really easy in Norway with all those DCFCs and especially the lower highway speeds. Here in the Western US, average highway speeds are no lower than 100 km/h so you really can't go too much slower. Most roads average between 105 and 120 km/h, even two-lane roads.

[@RicoZed]

It's supposed to be the new VW Combi and there is no camping mode ? 🤣 They really have no idea why the combi was a success I guess .

[@raphi25895]

there will also be a camper with a pop-up roof, so it will also be able to heat overnight.

[@luc_libv_verhaegen]

Why does the buzz need to be tricked at all? What use is this thing? * Too small a battery to travel 200+km with a 80% charge on the autobahn. * only 2.5 seats in the second row, only 2 isofix * not even a camping mode? WTF VW.

[@simeonsardanov1056]

In my opinion its a great car bc it has okay range, big practicality and its just amazing!

[@dae3xt]

Did Bjorn mention how much kilowatt the buzz used up for the overnight heating sleeping? I don't think he mentioned it.

[@Blasterxp]

How much energy used the heather during the night? And how cold was the battery in the morning? Was there a blue indicator like tesla? Or powerlimit?

[@ram64man]

He’s not afraid of the dark ,he’s just afraid of the constant elk and flock of deer tests on the way home

[@winkekeks]

Mystery Mercedes seems to be S214 (new 2023 E-Class)

[@nicolamelis80]

It Is Just a regulat pizza 🍕 🙄🙄 i dont know but Solo soda 🇳🇴 It Is good Let's talking About serious things: Great Beautiful Tour Bjørn 👏👏

[@Knnnkncht]

Looking forward to your i7 tests

[@rongosund111]

tiny pieces of slush in drink. reminds me of my army days.

[@CreRay]

Totally unrelated comment but... I really hope that Bjørn gets his hands on the new MG 4 soon! Could become 2023's best selling EV

[@yhfsywfit]

Never repetitive w the gruben pizza, hope to try one some day.

[@BogdanDuceac]

At minute 31 you can use your gloves on the touch screen like a "buss" in a buss :))

[@merkury28]

Why is the drink left by the car? Just for cooling?

[@rongosund111]

wow for a minute there we thought we saw the first Merc e-Wagon.

[@highlanderes]

Can’t you preheat the battery before charging?

[@dirk2349]

Good video. But did I miss what was the trick to keep the ventilation? What is the neutral trick? I'll be sure to get into this situation once my Buzz is delivered.

[@kruemelfelix]

Leave the engine on and shift into the neutral. Then manually engage the parking brake without putting the car into park mode. Once that is done you need to crawl from the front seat to the rear without opening the drivers door.

[@dirk2349]

@@kruemelfelix thanks. This should be no problem in the buzz ;) . Just remove the storage Unit in the middle :). Ist helps me a lot.

[@winkekeks]

Just was confused about the place you stayed over night. Have stayed just a few minutes up the korgfjellet in august with my VW camper van which is 31 years older than the ID Buzz. Could recommend that, even better view.

[@UserIDAlreadyInUse]

Nice road trip/test, keep them coming. is there a chance in the future you can review a Canoo EV in extreme weather conditions if you have a chance and when its available...

[@tobias..6688]

The video on canoo at Munro Live was great. Now I want Bjørn to test it ;-)

[@UserIDAlreadyInUse]

@@tobias..6688 definitely... looks promising thats why i like bjorn to do a real life test instead of info from corporations test.

[@perandersen2059]

Hey Bjørn, you forgot to tell the consumsion during night. 🙃

[@miloszenko]

It would be more effective to use radiation panel vs heating air.

[@DiamantSK1]

Thanks for your videos. What is the name of SW used to monitor the battery?

[@deas1972]

Whaaat!? How much is Buzz sucking from battery during driving when its sucking over 2.5 kWh just in stying still? Great music like always 🎉

[@adammetselaar4012]

hi what is the app you use to check the power output please on the i phone

[@apicharjiratanan4285]

the environment makes it taste better :D

[@offom]

Björn, I think you are being wrong about ABRP. The arrival estimation massively depends on the climate conditions, traffic and speed. You need to let it run, and understand the current consumption and conditions. It also gives a bit off estimation for me first and then within 10 minutes of driving, it gives almost the exact arrival SoC.

[@bjornnyland]

Wrong. ABRP already takes weather into account.

[@offom]

@@bjornnyland Sure it accounts for it, but it learns more on the way. I am getting pretty accurate estimations myself, being in Stockholm.

[@JiriSyrovatko]

V2L should be part of every EV these days. I wonder, how long VW is making EV's, and up to now, nobody thought about it? And then, you don't need to have these large and expensive powerbanks (while the vehicle has one already itself) to cook your food ;).

[@schunkelndedschunke6914]

You are absolutely right. Every BEV should have even one 230V AC power supply inside the car....better 2, and a V2device adapter.

[@davesitton]

You can option a 230v AC socket, but it’s not included as standard 👍

[@hellopsp180]

OH wow getting less that 2 Miles per KWH that's HORRIBLE 7:15. that is tough weather conditions :O

[@uncioclasprinlume]

You didn't say how many kw the heat consumed in the car, during sleep.

[@Enhancer1985]

That vent in the back is exhaust. Did you enable rear ac?

[@polardiscoball]

-9 isn't so bad just sleep in and start the heat when you wake to save ⚡

[@larsw.larsen4173]

Björn - howdo you get acess to car battery/chargin data - and what app do you use?

[@TheGropplerZorn]

The links are in the video description.

[@larsw.larsen4173]

Thanks .. 🎉

[@positivelycharged1296]

We it more space than a model X?

[@MrLM002]

Air fryers are by far the best way to reheat pizza

[@lesbendo6363]

Cool, cold video! 😁 🇨🇦

[@AndreasAbstreiter]

The only problem with the Ecoflow is its price. How many meals in a restaurant is it? ;-)

[@bjornnyland]

I don't only use EcoFlow for cooking. Haven't you seen my other videos with EcoFlow?

[@AndreasAbstreiter]

@@bjornnyland Yes, I know. And yes! These batteries can be useful for many things. I have even built my own DIY „Ecoflow“ just for the fun of it and to have it as a backup for an aquarium pump, just in case. Looking forward to see more of your electric adventures. With or without wheels beneath the battery. :-)

[@andrewr3362]

Can camping mode be made available via software update?

[@karl83333]

When your drinking this. And you say your going to Thailand i think your drinking ( Solo Wun) or how they say it in Thai since it's a little slushy 👍🏻. Question. Would you recommend VW Id.4 GTX? Thank you for your videos. And have a nice trip to Thailand

[@blocbonbon]

I'm almost running off to the shops to buy a pizza, damn!

[@SirHackaL0t.]

Can you educate the Merc drivers to park next to each other at the SCs so they aren’t hogging quite so many charging bays.

[@bjornnyland]

Speaking of education... Is that a question

[@SirHackaL0t.]

@@bjornnyland Glad that you addressed the real issue.

[@wgroentje1]

Beautiful movie tx again😊

[@realbase]

sry bjorn, missclicked with my fat fingers and instead of thumbs up i pressed down.. Great clips as always !!

[@mfurmyr]

Great video as always. Bucket Light?

[@MaxFiveGames]

I dont get how top of Norway is way warmer then where I live, at the bottom. A little bit outside Lillestrøm we been having -15 to -18 wtf.

[@bjornnyland]

This video was shot 10 days ago.

[@MaxFiveGames]

@@bjornnyland ahh then it makes sense :)

[@ahaveland]

The Gulf Stream still has an effect and keeps the North a bit warmer.

[@alexeiborissov5115]

What wheels are those? I’ve got a buzz on order and was looking for some affordable(ish) wheels for winter

[@AltenbergerWiesel]

The i4 is about to fall of the list? What findings do you mean? :)

[@leod9463]

Probably the video he published couple days ago. Charging throttling

[@Hipshot1]

Guess it was bacause the german guy said he had watched all Bjorns videos.

[@gonkcool]

you should sell your calculation equation to those guys.

[@Kitay4a]

I wonder if it is possible to implement Webasto into heating system and connect it to infotainment system so all cabin heating depends completely on webasto and not consume battery. 🤔

[@frankblok1743]

Webasto also consumes electricity.

[@Kitay4a]

@@frankblok1743 it is consumes diesel or petrol. But preferably implement the one that works on diesel.

[@ragnvaldj.kjelseth9482]

Don't want to add diesel or gas heating to an electric car. For one, it just sounds righteous stupid to do that, as batteries have far better efficiency, and the electric heater is already installed in the electric cars. So you save components, weight and space that the webasto heater and tank takes up. Second, you don't risk getting killed by hazardous fumes if the battery electric heater f..ks up, but it can happen with the Webasto, same as if you try to keep heat on by running the engine on an ice-car. For a car like this, solar panels to top up with some juice when camping at same site for days, is a far better option. And when you're driving from place to place, just fill up on a charging station before you settle down for the evening, or stop somewhere you can find an ac charger. If you're staying at a camp site, you should be able to connect your car to the power outlet at your stall, same as with campers. Even at the lowest amp setting, you'll top up with more than you use during the night. You probably don't drive off with a full battery, but you'll probably get a good amount for your first leg.

[@Kitay4a]

@@ragnvaldj.kjelseth9482 You must be kidding if you are saying that people are dying from webasto. A lot of truck drivers use this for heating the cabin while the main engine is not working. Fossil-fuel cars for decades working and using webasto and there is nothing that people are dying of. On the other hand, I would say that battery-powered cars are also dangerous due to fire issues that happened to batteries. Using solar power for heating is something that would never work in the Northern winter as there is no sun.

[@ragnvaldj.kjelseth9482]

@@Kitay4a I didn't say it's happening often, but it has happened. How often do BEV's catch on fire, and especially battery fires, compared to ice cars? Honda, BMW, MB, Audi, VW and severel others have had to recall even diesel cars because of fire hazard. In Norway, BEV fires are hugely minor to the ice-car fires, and spokesmen for the Fire Department has for now concluded BEV's are far less likely to catch on fire. Solar panels of course needs light. And there is daylight if your below the arctic circle. But they dont need direct sunlight to produce electricity. Daylight is enough. Efficiency goes up in direct light, but solar panels love low light and cold weather, and reflections from snow. And as I said, if your doing new stops every day, you top of at a charging station. Can also add that camping is mostly a summer activity.

[@Dag-Tore]

Du har sikkert svart på dette 200 ganger, men hviken app og dong bruker du?

[@dr.uweschmidt6300]

„The mystery car“ should be the 2024 Mercedes E-class T-model…

[@colla555]

That ID Buzz is so spacious, you could have a "buzzing" night with a wifey 😅

[@fransleeuwe5429]

I think its the new E Class Mercedes Benz 🤷‍♂️

[@CoolSilver]

I find it interesting and funny how you can sit up in the ID Buzz. I can sit up in the Model 3. I'm only 170 cm. I think you are a little taller.

[@ThomasT1976]

Does Audi E-tron have a similar app for data? I already have the same ODB-adaptor.

[@EV_OBD]

Use same app, link in video description.

[@Sixthflyer]

Tesla has a camper mode in their sports cars. But VW do not make this in their fancy van. People must cheat the stupid system. Even no darkening solution. To do a heating a sales manager told me to program multiple departure events. That's disappointing for such an expensive toy

[@ryanrobinson2129]

Tesla is not sports car, is safety car 😊

[@freestymc]

power distribution in ecoflow is pretty logical. both batteries are connected in parallel, but the juice is sucked only from the one with inverter, so this one is always lower in voltage.

[@bjornnyland]

Nope. It's not always like that.

[@KekszNET]

Its fun that mercedes test vehicles are charging at tesla (and not at ionity ;) 😂)

[@frankblok1743]

Up far north there is no more Ionity. So not fun, but a necessity.

[@KekszNET]

@@frankblok1743 yeah, I know. And it is fun that tesla provides juice for their tests and they dont push their “own” company to install DC chargers there

[@markcartwright5769]

You said that the BMW i4 might be about to fall off your list because of things you’ve learned. What are they ?!?

[@firesofcreation]

Does the ID Buzz offer any kind of autopilot?

[@Js-ut9oz]

Travel assist

[@edgy21]

Yes.

[@Hshshsjsjsjsh]

Well you skipped sleeping in the Audi Etron next ✅

[@wiqed1]

You forgot to tell how much it consumed during the night…

[@giri1478]

I hope one day U could join these teams which test/drive/ give special reviews to such cars in the cold or heat or bad terrain - but only if u have the freedom to use alot + critic freely It would be awesome :)

[@alexmadnes7692]

безумец , а если что ? Bear Grylls don't panic 😜

[@JoostH.]

yooo whats app

[@Robis-]

when you will get new S/X Plaids for review?

[@ouch1011]

Personally, I don’t care to watch you sleep in the car. I mostly watch these videos to see the efficiency and charging in very cold temperatures. Seeing the sights in Norway is interesting, but it’s definitely not necessary in every “Article Circle” videos

[@calder79]

And some of us are interested in just that! 😉 Especially for the ID Buzz…

[@blocbonbon]

Is the touchscreen, especially the map, not so responsive?

[@Super69racing]

New e-class estate 😂