[830] Kryptonite’s “New-U” New York Fahgettaboudit Bike Lock Picked

[@vampyricon7026]

This is pretty long for an LPL vid. Must not be a bad lock.

[@recklessroges]

Locks should be rated by the number of minutes they get in a single picking video in this channel. [Fahgettaboudit it 4/∞]

[@dupondavignon869]

At one point 3:38, I even thought I detected a few drops of sweat beading on the forehead of LPL.

[@sic.4191]

420 looloolooooooollll

[@beezymeech]

Something to keep in mind: He picks locks for a living, is in the comfort of his own home, and not under any pressure. The lock is also in the ideal position to be picked. He can also freely move the lock. No one is gonna pick a lock like this in a real world setting. It's still possible, but its not as easy as its done in these videos.

[@ScyllasSimp]

Plus with a custom tool that Bosnian Bill and him made.

[@The_k81]

It's a reason not to leave a bike in a quiet secluded area overnight though. Though a portable angle grinder still seems to be the primary attack in those settings.

[@NerdSnipingBatman]

As to rather people will pick it in the field: yes they will, if it's a nice enough bike and there's enough other bikes around as to where someone spending extra time on a bike lock won't be noticable. I've had a bike stolen from my university's bike racks where the u-lock was picked, not destroyed, but picked. The thing about picking: it's far more discrete than brute force so you can spend more time on it.

[@Jeiiyman87]

I love when experts in thier field say things are easy, maybe with a well experienced hand they are, but no, no that would not be easy.

[@xDarkAngelxc]

Lol yep, like a pro basketball player of 20 years saying shooting free throws with a blind fold on is easy.

[@markwinterbottom3634]

Lol well experience hand and custom lock picking tool they built themselves.

[@isiahaf1359]

He acknowledges that alot lol. Git gud

[@s3sebastian]

When it was clear at 3:40 that the advanced technique just wasn't enough black magic came into play.

[@hypernovie]

Are you saying he may have picked this lock before?....:)

[@n1ydy]

Maybe, but how many street urchins do you think know enough to " shake their tensioner " at the right moment?

[@bnctaj]

@@n1ydy anyone with KZbin does.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

I should have explained that more. The reason most DD locks tension from the front and back is to help keep the sidebar parallel to the bore axis of the lock. Without that, the sidebar can go a bit askew. Shaking, in my experience, helps to realign the internal components after the act of picking misaligned them.

[@rawtrout007]

LockPickingLawyer i have no idea what any of that means

[@MrTigaente]

I'm always marvelled and amazed how every lock seems to crumble before the LPL's lock picking prowess

[@Svengrustaben]

It's getting to the point where it's making me angry, is there a lock he can't pick?

[@flyingby3703]

It’s bothering me too! Makes me feel extremely unsafe because every lock I think is in any way secure just looks so useless in LPLs hands....

[@NapoleonGelignite]

LPL - “it’s not as hard as it sounds” Me - oh yes it is.

[@johnbecker3116]

No it's harder

[@Real28]

That's what she said.

[@salsalawyer]

@@Real28LMAO

[@adamgtrap]

I have come to the conclusion that you saying something to the effect of "it's not as hard as it sounds" or "not too hard to pick" translates into "don't even bother, it would be faster to just dig up the rack the bike is locked to".

[@lockpickinglawyer]

😂😂😂

[@tesmith47]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@goldenarygoldc-3457]

@@lockpickinglawyer hey LPL why dont you design a lock of your own and sell it?

[@Gatrehs]

@@goldenarygoldc-3457 When he made this disc detainer pick with bosnianbill he gave the design away to a company so hobby pickers would have an easier time to pick disc detainer locks. He also said that he's a lockpicker, not a businessman.

[@4nyxy]

Last version you talked about the pastic parts, and now they are gone. I’m really happy about that. And nice you have shown what going on inside that locks. Like your videos very much!

[@shualang]

NOT A HARD PICK? i think your bit harsh with that .. a better description would be I can confirm it has improved but because im the LPL its still needs work..

[@recklessroges]

"Still pickable with the worlds highest grade specialised pick and all of the LPL's experience"

[@sourcererseven3858]

Exactly, and that after he emphasized he'd need to use an advance technique in addition to the custom-made tool. If I were the manufacturer I'd go advertising with this video.

[@gingervalene3979]

@@recklessroges Precisely! No lock made by man can outrun these guys...guys who look at locks as puzzles. I use two of these locks when 'parking' anywhere. That said, I don't like staying away for long. Ownership of anything of value constitutes risk. Good locks and insurance is the best we can do. There should be a special Hell for bike thieves...bastards...

[@eyeborg3148]

LPL is an extremely talented lock picker and his experience causes him to overestimate the average thief’s picking skill. Anything LPL doesn’t consider trivially easy to pick should be enough for the streets - cutting resistance and strength against brute force attacks is most important. Also keep in mind at the end of the day any lock gets defeated by the cordless angle grinder.

[@schunacher]

I would be more concerned about the ability of a criminal LPL to do this on the street rather than a desk in a comfortable chair with great lighting.

[@electronicsNmore]

You're definitely the #1 lock picker. The average criminal would never take the time to pick that particular lock or many other types.

[@CJ-xf2wt]

100% correct. Most bike thiefs are looking for one of the countless bikes locked up with a £9 lock. Most will literally forget about it anytime they see a d-lock.

[@mrk1075]

That’s why now the criminals watch these types of videos first and learn how it’s done a head of time.

[@roveism]

@@CJ-xf2wt I had a U lock and a cable lock, a thief tried to saw it off, luckily my U lock held up, the thief also locked my bike with his cable lock, so that he can come back later when its quieter to finish the job.

[@kq7739]

@@roveism oh wow,what a confident thief to do that!

[@schunacher]

@@roveism Perfect ... you can wait for him to come back

[@softbingan]

How can I have a nice day if I know that there are guys like you hanging around?

[@pschroeter1]

For years I put a lot of faith in Kryptonite locks ability to protect my bike. And it was an older all black lock.

[@christopherfairfowl5521]

Thank you for this I’m buying one, if you have such a hard time getting through this your average thief has not a hope in hell. Thanks again and keep up the excellent work.

[@fallenhobbit6554]

At this point with this lock you are looking at what can you lock the bike to that cant be easily cut. Most bike racks are made from thin wall mild steel.

[@stewiemac7639]

Wow that was a fast turnaround on the New U locks. Impressed and big thanks. I think that's secure enough for my motorcycle, defy most scrotes to match the LockPickingLawyer by the roadside!

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Stewie Mac 👍

[@bernardomotard]

Check out the 1275 by kryptonite, great motorcycle lock

[@equilibrium8144]

Most bike thiefs don't bother touching motorbikes covered in a thick sheet as it could be alarmed. That can also be a nice deterrent.

[@patcrow_gawker5494]

You made that tool sing. A virtuoso performance that could have been set to music. Bravo!

[@geoffmarriott4387]

That LPL-BB lock picking tool is a thing of beauty

[@jansenart0]

"Not too hard to pick?!" You literally used a one-of-a-kind pick and it still took you, someone who's been picking locks longer than most people who'd use this lock have been alive, about a minute under laboratory conditions to do it.

[@tortex1]

No false gates for one. Two, rarely is someone going to pick a lock on the street, much more likely to use brute force. Three, by LPL standards this didn't take much more time than usual. And the tool is better than the chinese ones, but the only thing I can see helping are the gradations. And even those he didn't seem to use too much.

[@TheButchersbLock]

Not a one of a kind pick mate. Bosnian bill has one.

[@Whigu]

That tool actually looks much like old tool called vempele (Google: Abloy lockpicking tool called vempele)

[@CzornyLisek]

Thats normal disc detainer pick

[@Genthar]

Actually it's not a normal pick. It's one that LPL and BosnianBill collaborated on and created. It looks like a standard disc detainer pick, but it's got a ton of improvements. Right now it's a one-off prototype, but, they're hoping to get a manufacturer to build them for a reasonable price for the hobbyist market.

[@FragEightyfive]

I like your disc detainer pick. The indexing and depth marks are A+

[@Zodliness]

@LockPickingLawyer The only thing I found difficult about this lock...... was watching you make it look so darned easy! ♥

[@Kyros9119]

Remember if it opens with a key it can be opened with a tool, highly specialized or not. You probably cant have a completely pick and tamper proof safety measure but you can have one that is better than your neighbor's. That's until your neighbours upgrade too and the thieves do too.

[@stardark27]

It took him more than a minute to pick must be really good

[@shug831]

You a genus with your delicate touch to pick these locks. Or may be you have X-ray eyes.

[@DavidBernard123]

Genus

[@Svengrustaben]

He's using hacks

[@roysammons2445]

LPL... you sir made that look easy. I have seen your wiggle technique before. On reading the comments below it was good to understand your explanation as to why you wiggle the tool. 👍🏻

[@55ATA3]

Very nice, seems like a good lock for any area. Thanks for the video.

[@danielroglich3309]

Flawless picking brother, a pleasure to watch you work your magic!

[@plug4uk696]

Just commented on BB's channel about how nice seeing the pick that you guys created in use, great work both ;-)

[@Sc3ptor]

I have trust issues because of this man. His voice is very smooth though.

[@privatehand]

You need to pick a chastity belt for Valentine's Day.

[@alistaironeill930]

Given Mrs LockPickingLawyer's approach to the Ben&Jerry's lock, that would be a dangerous game. She might go for a destructive method if she gets impatient!

[@Sieran83]

@@DirtyRobot Wasn't something like that in the movie Swordfish?

[@randomness13]

Close enough I guess

[@privatehand]

I know!

[@MetalGear753]

You absolute legend, he went and did it! I wonder if he saw this comment.

[@DonzLockz]

It's great they made some improvements. Most normal pickers don't do much with disc detainers. Still a good lock for the masses.✌😎

[@Mr_Blacksmith]

You should have a LPL rating for the locks. Like a Michelin star or a Doug Score.. because wow. There's so much value here! Imagine everyone cross checking local locks with your LPL score!

[@ChillestDudeEver]

Surprised they still haven't added false gates in this revision, as the locking mechanism itself is surely the highest vulnerability for a lock this massive.

[@bneskylights1152]

Love your videos, been watching for a month or so, would really like a vid with terminology, breakdown of lock types and shit like that. I've put most of it together through osmosis but would like confirmation that I'm thinking of the right things. For example I have no idea how that core works.

[@MrMcWrath]

I don't know the 100% correct, technical names for them, but a quick list of lock types: linear/in-line pin lock (the traditional one we are used to seeing) , sliders (video 118 has a disassembly), disc detainer (video 571), levers (video 721 shows the internals), tubular lock (video 68 shows how they work), dimple pin (video 386), pin-in-pin (video 241), and combination lock. Those are the different types of lock that I can remember and have found. The terminology you can pick up as you go along, I've found it pretty intuitive. There are also a few unusual locks that exist such as the Bowley lock (video 636).

[@bneskylights1152]

@@MrMcWrath cheers man!

[@JackWar42]

You are a magician in the supernatural regard.

[@ChrislyBear]

Your new disc detainer pick looks awesome and seems to handle very well! Great work!

[@joebob3719]

I wish Kryptonite designed gun locks too. It sure seems like they could easily make the most secure and solid gunlock on the market that's still quick to access to, short of a literal safe.

[@recklessroges]

I like how much of the comments are basically people shouting, "Objection!" to the phrase, "no hard to pick".

[@MrSachasan]

Would love to see the Abus 540 granit x plus, picking and destruktiv test;)

[@thodieousk5853]

Wonderful video very clear that it takes a lot of skill to pick this lock as well as a custom tool this will be the lock I purchase thanks to this video!!!

[@andreasbuder4417]

That's why you use two locks with different locking mechanisms. So you need double the time and two specialized tools.

[@jfwfreo]

One thing I have always wondered is why more disc detainer locks don't use false gates. Does Abloy or someone have a patent on that? Do false gates increase the cost too much? Are they intentionally making the lock less secure?

[@lockpickinglawyer]

I have no idea. The concept of false gates in a DD lock is at least 50 years old.

[@jamesg1367]

Ahhhh, the classic old "give it a shake" trick. My dad used to do that with the 1954 Magnavox when the picture got wonky.

[@Lighting4aQut]

I’m lmfao!! This guy is seated at a desk, pulled out God’s lock pick and then had the nerve to say that this wasn’t too hard to get open after spending more than a minute to get it open. 😭 glad I bought this lock

[@mhoang_tran]

LPL: "this is a more advanced technique" Also LPL: *wiggles*

[@kierrahgeorge9880]

We had one of these on our cargo bike, had being the operative word because it was stolen and we think they picked it. 😣 no idea what to lock the next bike with.

[@Sipismi]

Does having the key for the lock make the picking process easier? I mean is it more difficult to pick a random lock of a type or a otherwise identical lock that you have seen the key for (or can look while picking). Can you see from the key how the lock operates.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

You’re not the first person to ask with regard to this lock: kzbin.info/www/bejne/joCQZnWVqJqdY5I

[@Sipismi]

LockPickingLawyer so the answer is that no effect or very minimal.

[@JackdeDuCoeur]

I'm very curious about what sort of mental "image" you're able to conjure from feel (with so little visual input) that you can walk through all the internal lock conditions resulting in a open condition. How do you think you perceive the internal state of the lock?

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Interesting question... I do keep a detailed and constantly updating model of the lock in my mind while picking. It’s very helpful IMO.

[@JackdeDuCoeur]

@@lockpickinglawyer Thanks for the reply. I'm fascinated by individuals' compartmentalized imaginative capacities, and it looks from my viewpoint like your inputs are an example of synesthesia. It really appears from out here that you can "see" the lock internals through your hands and manipulate that model in your imagination. Very nice talent.

[@20centurylimited]

LPL, it would be very helpful if you could provide a drawing of what’s happening inside the lock. Your talents amaze!

[@fredhenry101]

@@20centurylimited Try looking up videos with (or just purchasing if you want to get into locksport) a cutaway/acrylic lock that has the internals visible. Much more reliable than a drawing of something that's constantly shifting.

[@ib9rt]

@@JackdeDuCoeur Actually, it sometimes surprises me that some people can't visualize the internal state and workings of mechanisms they are manipulating. To me, as an engineer, this just seems like an entirely natural thing to do.

[@timp2751]

Still no false gates? Sure, picking isn't the attack this lock is going to see but false gates surely add minimal or no cost to the lock for disc detainers? Aren't the discs just stamped out?

[@solidsteal]

I learned how to steal everything I own because of you! Thx!

[@checocgh]

Si there a way you can make the same video in. A real life situation. With a bike locked to a street post and then see how long it takes to pick it open. Really interested to know the result. Big fan of the channel

[@awgmax]

This looks decent. Resistant to picking and force. Too bad they're still gonna steal your wheels

[@24YOA]

Sierra Ideally you use two U-locks, one for the front tire and frame, second one to hold the rear tire and frame together as well as being secured to some anchor point.

[@flyingby3703]

TheQuark6789 the smallest U lock that you can use is generally the best option. Then lock it in a way that it’s really inconvenient for you to open. It will be even worse for anyone trying to pick it or break it without damaging the bike. Also use security screws for everything. Either use really rare ones or make your own. For the front axle there is one from abus that you can only open when the bike is lying on the ground. This will probably deter most thieves, because it would be too much of a hassle to get. Remember: You don’t need to lock it so that the thieve can’t ever get it, you just have to lock it better than the next similarly priced bike ;)

[@bnctaj]

There are products to defeat and deter this..

[@KpopNiDontStop]

Me living in super suburban area's where people leave nice e bikes locked with cables but I still want this.

[@chuckhabrack3330]

I would like to see you put that around a pipe where you cant get you hand in the lock to hold the picking tool. Something like it would be on a bike. In other words I would like to see you pick some of these in real world type scenarios. I say this because I know how easy it is to work on a bench as compared to working with a part installed. Something that give you a challenge too.

[@Jaras6794]

Imagine that the pipe that's blocking the lock is the camera that's blocking LPL's view. He can hold the tool from the front but you wouldn't see shit that way.

[@chuckhabrack3330]

@@Jaras6794 I am not watching as an instructional video. He reminds me of a professional cake decorator. He makes very complex things look easy. I am just saying that he could do some of the locks he has picked or melted or blown apart, in a manner that might be uncomfortable to pick. Where maybe some of the finesse of wiggling or varying tension might not be as fluid. We had a locked gate that if you put the lock on backwards it took much longer to get the key in and open. I am not saying that it becomes unpickable but when you see some of these they are rather easy for him it might be fun. Even a Master 3 lock that is in a vice where we can see but he is working from the blind side. Just ideas to make it a little more challenging.

[@StrangeAstro]

Chuck Habrack he used to break locks when they were on his outside fence. You might be interested in those videos.

[@alexdavis9324]

For example, lets say the lock is on a motorcycle and there is no space for his hand to go in behind the core. The lock would also be held in place by the bike. He wouldn't need to put his hand behind the lock to steady it so he could tention the pick without reaching behind the lock. Your concern on the surface makes sense but practically it makes no difference. Also, this is lock sport not training to be a criminal. Keep that in mind.

[@chuckhabrack3330]

I am not saying it cant be picked. I am saying that he could be creative on some of the picks. Its easy to do a job when everything is where it needs to be. Again not looking for instructions, just ways to make things a little more challenging.

[@andretiba5066]

Well done! When will you pick and detroy the ABUS Granite 540? I belive most of your followers are expecting that! Regards!

[@James-ke5sx]

I'm a 69 year old cyclist. I'm way ahead of this game. My lock goes on the opposite side of the pole etc or upside down. You would have one hand access around a blind bend. No sight of your tool. And for you Grindr guys I'm going to invent a special lock with a hollow tube filled with special gas that spray paints just like the money bags

[@gbarrettomates]

69? Nice.

[@daa82]

Someone beat you to it - check out “Skunk Lock”

[@dorkthrone]

Those Grindr guys are well-suited to using tools to bypass toxic gases.

[@James-ke5sx]

@@dorkthrone I upgrade to explosives.

[@lorenzospa1975]

What is the differences between "New Padlock in New York Fahgettaboudit Mini" and "New York Fahgettaboudit Mini"? Measurements and weight are identical, 10/10 security

[@SavetheRepublic]

Its channels like this that make it so we can't have nice things.

[@B-M.B]

The Moment, when you hear Kryptonite's engineers crying... You know LPL, did opened the newest model in under 1 minute..

[@derekjolly3680]

Is it a correct assumption to expect that when they improve one of the heavier U-locks like this, they make similar improvements in the others which are close in security value?

[@KimberHall]

Is this picking tool or something similar available for purchase? It looks difficult to manufacture, so how hard is it to obtain the tool needed to open this lock?

[@polishwalker5756]

where to buy that tool that he has?

[@MiguelAngel1497]

how can i use this lock? Its too small to attach it to my bike and many places have big poles not smaller ones

[@olemissjim]

You must have SO many bikes by now.

[@ericshutter5305]

so, what is the best bike lock currently?

[@aliozanerbektas]

What happened to your hand?

[@monkjacob85]

I'm guessing his cat doesn't love him...

[@aliozanerbektas]

@@monkjacob85 no cats dont scratch that deep. Looks almost like something sharp just slipped and cut his hand.

[@satorudo]

Dunno maybe some Masterlock goons were all like "Yo stop making our locks look bad or we gonna scuff up your hands"

[@devinroberts6311]

Just a small scratch lol.

[@CoLiC2]

@@aliozanerbektas What sort of cats have you owned? My cat can and have cut deep enough to slice me way worse than that. Try separating two fighting cats.

[@KingsleyWeb]

Bike thieves will just angle grind through your lock, nothing so elegant and well practiced as this! Impressive

[@DrClawizdead]

Kingsley Gale-Sides This lock broke a pair of pneumatic cutters so I don’t know if the grinder will be able to do it.

[@KingsleyWeb]

@@DrClawizdead they got nearly all the way through my OnGuard Pitbull twice, I think it's just about time and not being disturbed with the grinder

[@Hansengineering]

@@DrClawizdead Nothing can stop 10kRPM of cut off wheel.

[@dudeonbike800]

@@DrClawizdead, unfortunately you are wrong. It takes less than a minute to get through these with a quality angle grinder. You'll find ample videos attesting to this right here on KZbin. That said, it's still one of the best locks available.

[@wmmt]

I'm curious as to how come one of the three keys has a different head design.

[@sergemalouin]

You get 2 normal keys, and one key with an embedded LED lights.

[@wmmt]

@@sergemalouin thanks heaps.

[@lmars5933]

Glad to see the finish product in stainless. Nice spp'd my friend. 😎

[@rsilvers129]

How does this compare to an Abus Granite 540 or Abus Extreme (16mm)?

[@harvie6411]

Interested to see if the angle grinder resistant hiplokD1000 is pickable =D

[@CJordanNicholson]

It's either NEW or it's IMPROVED. It can't be both.

[@sherwincruz547]

where can i buy that picking lock tool😅 not interested with the kryptonite anymore

[@Jindsing]

How much skill is required to pick a lock like this without custom tools? How long would it take street thief to pick this lock using traditional lock picking tools? Would a regular street thief even process the skill to pick a lock like this?

[@emachine003]

Funny enough, pretty much every bike in Manhattan uses this lock. Fitting.

[@vanderslagmulders]

Isn't that just typical of the kind of attitude you'd expect from a bikes thief? Lame enough to steal a bike, and lame enough not to bother with any kind of skill improving selfstudy on KZbin.

[@cresshead]

this is the bike lock i bought for my Haibike SDuro 1.0 electric bike good Lock - it's HEAVY mind you!

[@mattcoulshed]

I don't really get why they don't put false gates in, how much more would it really cost to make and it would make it a bastard to pick.

[@Splattertube]

You're an artist.

[@harvie6411]

Wow, what hope have we if all these locks are pickable

[@benb3316]

Having watched quite a few of your vids now I think this is a compliment to this lock. 1 - it'd be hard to have a crackhead/meth addict open with simple tools/simple tricks 2 - the picking tools to open it are unusual, not simple amazon lock picking search - yes I checked 3 - the body is hard to physically break 4 - though pickable - and the key wouldn't work if it wasn't - it took YOU 2x as long as normal even knowing 100% what you are doing. So though there's probably a Kryptonite engineer ready to shoot themselves - they shouldn't. IMO - and this is a layman's opinion - the only thing that disturbs me is how easy it is to set the thing in motion with that first metal bar to set the locks/initial tension. Is there some way to make that impossible, or like if clear all tension then trigger a counter - a different type of 'false gate' perhaps? That's on this lock - forgive my extrapolation please:-) I think what should be done is work out electronic lock additions to keys - like in cars how they have keys that have a chip on them. The lock could be powered by a USB mini plug and re-charged - so if the charge goes you can power it with your phone, but NOT override it. Sorry a lock with a phone to open it will be pickable for $100 to 'services' on Alibaba - all locks in that brand name at least. It needs to require the key - with the code programmed in - or it won't send an electronic pulse to open a solenoid that's tensioned to block the lock and in a way not easy to just use a magnet... (?Maybe a separate layer that if over-powered by a magnet defeats the solenoid?) That way if a key gets lost a new one could be ordered, then the code programmed in at home. And if both are lost (triple backup your files, people) - hello torch/cutter with proof it's YOUR bike to officer friendly who's there to ask you what the h--- you are doing even if he didn't notice your last three bikes stolen and the crack addict walking with them coz he was on Donut break. AND - citing LPL's wondrous, brutal and deserved butchery of the embryonic electronic locks these need to be solid metal and NOT openable with a screwdriver with the lock open and the electronics encased in Epoxy to protect them from rough handling and make hacking from outside a nightmare even if someone has the plans to the lock. Finally they need a "Key Module" that a 3rd party - namely the user - can program himself. Most would do a key encryption, I'd use an asymmetric code. So trip to Alibaba so the Chinese who will eventually make this and program it instant defeat key. Bonus to make it re-keyable so extra $ to a locksmith - and due to the electronics it could use more or less standard parts - even a lock that our LPL friend could pick relatively easily. Also bonus to put a 'button' on the key so you have to do something like hit it once, don't hit it, hit it ten times... as part of the input. So, why not just have the electronic solenoid lock designed to be not easy to defeat with an electromagnet? Coz it'll be sent to CHINA and do you think they'd not sell a drooling rapist the keys to get into a toy store that sells big stuffed animals and then a kindergarten for $100 each entry override? Here's a hint: Look up toy fails - they sent jump ropes to dollar stores pre-wrapped to be like a noose. It wasn't racist. Quite the opposite - Marx - "The last capitalist will sell us the ROPE with which we shall HANG him." If I made/make this I'd use an Audruino chipset or other pc on a chip thing coz I don't have time to design my own chip from the ground up. Guys that work with those could figure out ways to over-ride it - certainly as 99% it will be made that way if manufactured and - to cheat American workers- sent overseas. So the net will become full of 'hacks' showing how to get around it. IMO there's probably a "Wifi backdoor" that is, will be, or can be put in most of them - then special programs will be made around it. Plus - part of why I said encase in Epoxy to fight this - someone could poke just right and insert a logic probe after shocking to reset maybe to reprogram. BUT - if someone can get both the over-ride AND the key-picking - well you have other problems. Likely it'd be either A - a thug with a gun -- B - a thug with a gun and a warrant - or more likely C - they spend 20 minutes sawing with fake paperwork that they are a 'repo-man' - or just time when officer Wiggum is at a donut break again...

[@kierenmoore3236]

Which would you say is tougher/more secure ... this, or the [543] New York Disc Lock ... in terms of lock mechanism, and overall security? I know this is meant for bicycles and the '[543]' is meant for motorcycles, but either could certainly be used on a motorcycle (at least) ... Many thanks!! :)

[@deanryder4922]

It’s all in the Hands -who is your manicurist?

[@ReconTHG]

Erm, so what lock should we use?

[@vanderslagmulders]

A heavy lock that has no instruction video on how to pick it.

[@meelas010]

But will it survive a trip to the garage?

[@dominickjustave3860]

Nice lock they must be watching your videos 😊😊😊

[@soggycracker5934]

So... Reasonably able to keep a bike from being stolen?

[@lordjebuss]

would you recommend this lock then?

[@JayPattersonTV]

Mr. Lawyer...your lock picking ability is criminal.

[@Gragon]

Ive randomely watched a bunch of your vids but never saw a proper recomendation. Can you do a video with best locks you would actually recommend?

[@CUNDUNDO]

He is not here to recommend anything he is just here to show off his greatness !

[@TheRflynn]

Is the cut on the left thumb where a lock bit?

[@alexandermeyer2585]

Oh my god. It looks so easy to pick this lock... thought it is one of the safest bikelocks on the market... can you recommend a good lock for an expensive bike?

[@jrd33]

This lock is a good choice. Almost all bike thieves just rely on bolt cutters/hydraulic tools/angle grinders. You're not going to find a bike lock which is substantially harder to pick. If you want the best possible security then get a big Abloy padlock (such as a PL362) and attach it to a 15mm hardened steel chain. But the combination will weigh and cost A LOT. Want still more security? Use 2 separate locks (a D lock and a chain, for example). But you still won't stop a thug with an angle grinder if he really wants your bike.

[@andyowens5494]

Ahh Zett As John Davis said, this lock. If you want better (but less practical), hire a thug to stand next to your bike, but even a thug can easily be defeated given the right technique.

[@stephenchristian5739]

I LIKE A LOCK THAT TAKES HIS 'OWN PERFECTED TOOL' NO LOSER WALKING AROUND HAS THAT, I HOPE MY KRYPTO HAS SOME DIFFICULTY, LIKE MY ONGUARD BEAST I STRIPPED THE SCREWS & HEX NUT SO YOU CAN'T TAKE IT APART, IT'S A SOLID LOCK & INEXPENSIVE FLAW FIXED! I LOVE THIS LPL GUY. THIS KRYPTO GEN HAS TO MAKE KRYPTO HAPPY WATCHING THIS

[@thumperlockpicking9269]

Great pick, Love your new tool. Congratulations on the build Mr. L.p.L it turned out great

[@davemcdaniel4856]

Looks like you won and got to keep the stainless one.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Just shot a couple videos before packing it off to sparrows.

[@dennisb7313]

Started watching your videos in hopes of finding better bike lock. I wanted to find a lock that will keep the honest people honest. After watching your videos, I am not feeling very good. Do you ever think about the bad guys watching your videos? You could be educating the wrong people. When you document lock problem on your video, have companies responded by making improvements? Or taken bad products off the market? With your knowledge of what not to do in a lock, have companies asked for your recommendations?

[@Hansengineering]

If your design rests on security-through-obscurity it is not a good design.

[@dudeonbike800]

This lock is one of the best available. Unfortunately, thanks to much improved battery technology, high-power angle grinders are available that defeat these quality locks. Not a lot can be done about this fact. You do raise a lot of valid questions though. Yes, providing info. to thieves isn't a good idea. Problem is, the internet spreads this information far too easily. It's already out there; LPL isn't sharing any earth-shattering secrets. No way to control it. Can't blame the manufacturers. They're trying to stay one step ahead of the bad guys. But the bad guys have cheap, effective tools at their disposal. And laws of physics & engineering say you can't make an unbreakable lock (making = breaking essentially). So this lock doesn't need to be taken off the market. You can get a lot of information about effective locks & locking technique on the internet. Check out all that's at your fingertips. (It would be a waste of my time to reiterate it all.) Another strategy is to use two different type locks that require more than one tool to defeat. Here's my custom suggestion: The Kryptonite NY Fug lock is a GREAT lock. But it can be cut (and picked, but this method is rarely used on the street). I'd suggest taking this lock and sliding thick pipe sections over the U-shaped shackle. Thicker-wall pipe fittings would be best; angled sections for the curve. Slide some material (old tube socks) over them to prevent marring your bike. Now an angle grinder will be less effective or take longer to get through all the added material. Hopefully, the loose pipe fittings will be more likely to move around and shatter the ceramic cutoff wheel. This is what I've come up with to try to defeat angle grinders. It sucks to have to be so worried about bike theft... What we need are GPS tracking devises installed in every frame and suspension fork from the factory that would help locate stolen bikes before the grimy scumbag thieves have time to part the bikes out. Good luck, I feel ya!

[@gregobrien6165]

Are more bike locks picked or brute force opened ? Anyone has statistics?

[@The18x18x]

Where dem ramset videos at

[@e2U]

If you practiced and had to do this out in the wild, how long would it take you? Why don't you make a Lock..I may be able to fund this and get it to about 30+ Million perspective consumers.

[@anemoneyas]

Curious how this compares to the Abus GranitX Plus

[@reginaldscot165]

What did you do to yourself? You have some injuries on your hands? Was it a lock experiment gone wrong?

[@martinf9626]

Cool video . Any advice for a better bike lock U shape or a better brand or lock system

[@gearboxclinicdon4332]

Didn't you feature a used vs new video (828) of the older version of this lock?

[@lockpickinglawyer]

No... that was new vs. used. Totally different thing.