IS MIKEL ARTETA A BETTER MANAGER THAN ANTONIO CONTE?

[@ThePlaylistFootball]

Who are your Top 5 Premier League managers? Let us know in the comments!

[@hellohi1445]

Pep Conte Klopp Rodgers Arteta/Klopp I know Rodger’s above is controversial but the guy instantly got Leicester to compete for top 4 two seasons in a row whilst arteta took 3 years. I just prefer Rodgers over arteta.

[@Maj1794]

pep klopp conte arteta potter

[@siralexferguson4640]

How the hell can you guys have Potter on there and not Brandon Rodgers ? Thats a joke.

[@phyonyein2208]

Why is Potter even on the list?

[@bri1085]

@@siralexferguson4640 Rory

[@pratham014]

Arteta's achievements are non tangible. The toxicity inside the club, the divide between fans and club, the style of play. Changing all that. Changing the mentality of the team. It has been an unbelievable job by Arteta

[@FkProductions14]

To finish 8th twice and bottle top 4 with 1 game a week 😂

[@sjoerd4855]

Ajax before ten hag didn't win the title for 4 or 5 years, he made them compete in the CL every year which gave them the money to dominate the eredivisie

[@kabagemayannick5097]

Brudda Premier league bro . Only

[@hellohi1445]

@@kabagemayannick5097 so if hansi flick joined the PL, u wouldn’t put him in top 3? If it’s clear that a manager is top 5, u gotta put him there.

[@xaos6581]

@@kabagemayannick5097 why did they talk about CL then ?

[@billyferaldy]

@@hellohi1445 but Hansi Flick is different tho, he has won the treble, including the Champions League. You cant say the same about ten Hag, Koeman and De Boer also won titles at the Dutch League, you can argue both have higher reputation considering their playing career. If you dont manage in the top 5 league, you have to win something special like Mourinho at Porto or even Villas-Boas even though it didn't work out for him in the PL.

[@bri1085]

@@billyferaldy don't forget ten Hag's assistant as well, won the Eredivisie under even more special circumstances with Twente, and he was horrid in the Premier League

[@no9scrum]

Kudos for not limiting the guests to ranking 5 managers Rory has decided on previously like usual... this is much better

[@kiriakoz]

kudos to everyone for not listening to Rory. If they can keep doing that, this series has merit.

[@ThePlaylistFootball]

You like the open-ended approach. We'll bear this in mind for future Playlist episodes. Thanks for feedback.

[@no9scrum]

@@ThePlaylistFootball Just means that you're not limiting anyone's opinions.... and guarantee you'll get some batshit suggestion from some guests... Watch Robbie declare Tierney to be the best left back in the league or something

[@Enzophanis1892]

It’s ludicrous to say Guardiola would swap 4 leagues for 1 champions league. If he didn’t win a single league his entire time here you think that’s a better legacy?

[@hellohi1445]

Liverpool fans are sad and in denial right now, let them be.

[@muhammada4297]

He’s just a sad and delusional Liverpool fan don’t take him seriously

[@ringrosesr1]

Everyone is constantly blowing hot air up Pep's ass, with the money citah have spent, Potter could have won the league. The only time he win the Champions League was with a team he inherited with Xavi, Messi et all on board. He failed at Bayen and he's failed at citah. Pep always overthinks the big games.

[@sinovuyomana4009]

@@ringrosesr1 Pep actually got rid of many top players in that team, that analysis is just lazy, you actually need to do your research. Pep actually promoted players like Busquets, Pedro etc and those were his starting players. He got rid of the like of Ronaldinho, Deco etc. That analysis is just lazy and petty.

[@ringrosesr1]

It's always easy with dodgy oil money, but then how did Chufski and Liverpool do it but not Pep, how come the perennial champions league winners Bayen couldn't do it under Pep the genius.@@sinovuyomana4009

[@muhammedsamaria703]

Ten Hag is unproven when he was winning league titles and getting to UCL semis while Arteta was putting out the cones

[@HandsomeBrownMan]

It's not that hard to win league titles where your team is miles ahead of the rest, just ask PSG and Bayern.

[@jose56789-b]

@@HandsomeBrownManajax last won the league in 2013 before ten haag arrived btw

[@kurtsudheim825]

@@HandsomeBrownMan the French league has had more different winners in the last decade than any other major league in eu. Everyone is praising man city for winning the title 4/5 years, si why isn't that SO easy hmm? Stop listening to Muppets & actually do some research yourself before sprouting overused, incorrect info

[@alvinanis3006]

@@HandsomeBrownMan They weren't winning those titles before Ten Hag came in. Typical PL fan knowledge.

[@beastunleashed657]

@@HandsomeBrownMan you can literally say that to Pep as well tho lmao. His Barca, Bayern and now City were far ahead of their competition. Guess Pep is also unproven lol

[@Sproles11]

Pep isn’t trading 4 league titles for 1 champions league. Maybe 2, but certainly not more than that.

[@ironheade22]

I wouldn't swap 1 league title for 3 Champions leagues, massively overrated competition that's barely worth watching until April

[@Sproles11]

@@ironheade22 I personally agree. You can lose almost half your CL games and still win it. You have to be near perfect for the PL these days

[@ThePlaylistFootball]

What's bigger? A Premier League title or a Champions League? If you could only win one.

[@eyasuabere1345]

@@ThePlaylistFootball the format will change next season so with the new format the cl is bigger.

[@ThePlaylistFootball]

@@ironheade22 wow! controversial...

[@TFB97]

"The way Arteta has handled the pressure", are we supposed to forget they bottled top 4 with 3 games left with the biggest summer spending and no European football 🤔😂😂

[@16ShimiC16]

Arsenal fans are so deluded its unreal

[@saint.pallas]

in those 3 games did Spurs have European football... hell did they even have European football when they first really pushed for top 4...

[@Arban19]

@@16ShimiC16 it’s not about delusion tbf, it’s being a bit giddy but let me explain, the goal from POV of the board wasn’t to get top 4 (Arteta’s contract wouldn’t have been extended otherwise), and yes while the outlay was massive, you need to understand it wasn’t just a simple rebuild, it was an overhaul- overhauls take time. And moreover, this overhaul didn’t involve short term fixes like getting in Sokratis and Lichstenier, it meant we were getting young players who are yet to reach their prime and could be moulded to play to the managers desire. The keyword here is young. When you manage Arsenal on any manager simulation game, the biggest drawback of the squad is shown as too young and inexperienced- which is why we crumbled under pressure, plus we lost two key players in our first choice LB and our 45m DM. Notwithstanding, the fact that we reached 5th with that squad is something Arteta deserves praises for. None of our players were world class ffs, Martinelli was from a 3rd Divion Brazilian team, Saka and ESR academy graduates, Odegaard a RM reject, Brighton sold White and didn’t even bother to replace him, Ramsdale got relegated twice. Arteta took these players and finished ahead of Utd, Leicester, West Ham, the latter ones were apparently being billed as our replacement in top 6. And let’s not forget the fact that had we not lost to Brentford on the opening day, or Everton in mid season, we would have finished ahead of Conte’s Spurs with Kulu-Kane-Son frontline. Arteta deserves some criticisms but none for the way how the season ended.

[@TheKh65]

​@@16ShimiC16 "Arsenal fans are deluded..." 🤡 there is one Arsenal fan on the panel.

[@cluckingbell1772]

Cone layer handling pressure lol, what a clueless clown

[@thom9484]

Ten Hag reached a CL semi-final with a club that has an annual total revenue which is about the same as the tv money that Arsenal receives on a yearly base, get that Arteta out of this list man. 8th, 8th & 5th is a disgrace to be put this high up the list.

[@dancingcar8974]

I have high hopes from ten hag...God give him powers and new ideas how to beat man city!!

[@ThePlaylistFootball]

Is it fair to say, that a tournament (knockout) style football includes a bit more luck than a 38-game league season...

[@thom9484]

@@ThePlaylistFootball absolutely, however luck wasn't involved in the games Ajax played in the CL in 18/19. They dominated against Real Madrid & Juventus and if any, luck was on the side of Madrid & Juve with the amount of chances that Ajax created & VAR decisions. Furthermore, the point is that Arteta hasn't shown any sort of brilliance in the time he's been the Arsenal manager. Finishing 8th twice and 5th once with the player material he has is not a reason to be considered as one of the top 5 managers in the league.

[@alvinanis3006]

@@ThePlaylistFootball Acting like Ten Hag's never won a league title before...

[@adam01101]

Love this debate, get don robbie on more

[@loneranger699]

UCL over 4 PL titles is a stupid argument lol Pep definitely wouldn't be City manger for the 7th season if he only won a UCL & no PL titles

[@snipedotgenius]

One of the best debates I’ve seen on this channel .. 💯

[@spurskingstv]

The fact they are putting Arteta ahead of Brendan Rodgers is laughable. 8 games into this season and suddenly he some sought of Elite manager.

[@hasnaindude]

Arteta's already won as much as Brendan Rodgers has in managing at the top flight of English football. To say it's laughable shows how bias you must be 😂

[@spurskingstv]

@@hasnaindude has Arteta been in a title race? Did Leicester not finish above him twice? Ok, the first season wasn’t a full season, but 2nd season was.

[@hasnaindude]

​@@spurskingstv I look at it very simply. Rodgers has managed long enough in the premier league that we know what his ceiling is. He's a good manager who can get you into Europe at best, maybe win you a domestic cup. We have a very small sample size to judge Arteta by, but in the 3 years he's been at Arsenal he's transformed them from a club with a toxic fanbase and culture to a football club that looks ready to compete, with players and fans that have bought into what he is doing. He has improved Arsenal every season. So for me based on potential alone he deserves to be in the top 5.

[@hasnaindude]

@@spurskingstv And to your point if we're not counting his first season since it wasnt a full one, he finished 8th and then 5th, whereas Rodgers went from 5th to 8th. One improved while the other regressed.

[@Scepticool1]

They're really trying to hype up Arteta as some elite manager lol

[@UnitedViewTV]

Massive pressure on Arteta to deliver! No excuses now!

[@afg3407]

Get KG on this.

[@ThePlaylistFootball]

So if he fails, you think he'll be out?

[@Blanke-i3h]

@@ThePlaylistFootball if he doesn't deliver top 4 + a trophy (depends) this season he should be out, but I don't know if he'll be sacked.

[@elliotcowley8542]

@@ThePlaylistFootball how many times have we heard that question

[@shravan0230]

why is Ade being dismissive of Pep's achievements at Barcelona. If it's only down to world class players, the galacticos would have dominated. fact is, Pep oversaw possibly the best ever team and got the best out of them for 3-4 years.

[@jubairahmed9754]

Never ask when it is a Liverpool fan, delusion and mental health issues apply.

[@grealish2234]

After pep left , they won 1 ucl. If it's only down to Messi, they would have won it even year

[@BLLRRR]

It's not surprising mate,he a Liverpool ffs

[@kwandangidi8489]

He was being ignorant asf cuz pep made xavi and iniesta he litrelly kicked out ronandinho,deco henry etc..

[@ThePlaylistFootball]

Yes, you raise a fair point. However, if a manager has the best players in the world at his disposal, it will always be questioned. Do you think Klopp would have won more PL trophies had he been in charge at City instead or Pep? How do you think Pep would have done at Liverpool?

[@hellohi1445]

I feel like Brendan Rodgers is very underrated. He joined Leicester and instantly made them compete for top 4 in his first full season. He’s done it twice and beat UCL champions to FA CUP. Although he’s doing ass now, I just feel he’s done a better job than most premier league managers. Personally, I’d put him 5th/6th.

[@AeolianMusica]

Really? For most of his big jobs, he’s tailed off after 18 months.

[@kiriakoz]

@@AeolianMusica I mean, he "tailed off" at Liverpool after they sold their greatest ever EPL player, Celtic were winning the Scottish league when he left and he kept Swansea up even when they were favourites to be relegated (in fact that's how he got the Liverpool job). Absolute recency bias from you here.

[@AeolianMusica]

@@kiriakoz You’re right, there’s a bit of recency bias as he did excellently with Celtic and fairly well with Swansea. My comment’s not entirely fair - he doesn’t tail off always, but nor does he regularly overperform. With Liverpool he did tail off, and losing key players is something a top manager should have to deal with. Leicester and don’t forget Reading both did tail off. As for where he’s done a good job - Celtic should be winning the SPL every year. With the money they have compared to the other teams it’s a wonder they haven’t dominated more. He overperformed at Swansea credit to him, but keeping a struggling side up is not enough of a reason to be in the top 5 current PL managers. If we think it is then there’s other managers we have to consider. All in all he’s obviously a good manager, but I just don’t think there’s enough to say he’s under-appreciated. Of current PL managers not mentioned for that top 5 list, I’d rather (in no order) have Hassenhüttl, Moyes, Frank, Howe, De Zerbi and even your beloved Gerrard if I were appointing the manager.

[@bri1085]

@@kiriakoz Liverpool he didn't just tall off because of losing Suárez, his own ego cost him as well. He always had serious snake energy throwing a lot of people under the bus

[@ThePlaylistFootball]

Where next after Leicester?

[@Pathogenixdnb]

Man u fan here, glad to see the don grace this channel 🔥

[@sgp1721]

This list is spot on, I agree with you all completely and great job Robbie. As a Man. United fan I understand where you were coming from about Ten Hag, but it is a little too early for him to be in the top 5 managers right now.

[@obakengmmusinyane6540]

And Potter deserves to be in there right??? Do me a favor...🙄🙄

[@unknownname1941]

Potter is there based on hype

[@sgp1721]

So who would you guys have preferred over Potter?

[@harrymansell4542]

Potter has taken a mediocre Brighton team to 4th in the league that’s why🤣are you lot forgetting the Brighton team they have been this season?

[@vocalrush16]

@@harrymansell4542 4th after 7 games. Are you a melt?

[@ziphowophula7697]

Love how they think Potter is better than ten Hag😂😂😂😂

[@hellohi1445]

PL bias.

[@ziphowophula7697]

@@hellohi1445 exactly

[@MajorMango28]

I actually think potter is above for me because I base this on which manager I’d want to have managing Chelsea my list would be pep conte Klopp arteta and potter. This isn’t a premier league bias ten hag just hasn’t impressed me. Winning the eredivisie isn’t hard if you have Ajax let’s be honest potter can do that in convincing fashion even this season

[@TheMufc123]

​@@MajorMango28 reading this comment now is hilarious, I know you can't predict the future, but this couldn't be more wrong

[@ANJIN-p4q]

Nah why's Potter on there? 😂. It's crazy how we've gone from Tuchel who was top 3 to Potter.

[@hellohi1445]

Potter is a good manager bro. But he takes a while to create a good team. Or maybe that was because Brighton was relegation candidates when he joined.

[@grealish2234]

@@hellohi1445 and do3snt play the terrorism football tuchel plays. Never seen worse footy than tuchel

[@Nightsu]

@@hellohi1445 he has a 1.28 ppg. he aint good hes just the hipster manager

[@hellohi1445]

@@Nightsu not his fault if his own players can’t finish to save their lives.

[@ThePlaylistFootball]

Do you not rate what Potter has done at Brighton on a limited budget?

[@kritikalvulcan9720]

Robbie held his own very well. That was gargantuan banter he leveled at Abi.

[@JohnSmith-ji8tu]

How has Rodgers not made this list but Arteta and Potter both have? Guy has won more than both combined, almost got top 4 with Leicester while also winning a trophy with them - yet somehow arteta is there without even getting 4th with Arsenal

[@hasnaindude]

Rodgers has not won more than Arteta in England

[@ThePlaylistFootball]

He's definitely one that should be in the running...

[@conradpinto]

Robbie as an unbiased fan is an underdog

[@jamescarter5041]

What do you mean?

[@conradpinto]

@@jamescarter5041 he does a good job as an unbiased fan, unlike most others on his channel

[@jackwilliams659]

Ten Haag has won multiple league titles, got to a champions league semi final, beat liverpool and arsenal in his first 6 games as United manager but he’s not on anyones list bar Rory. Arteta has won 1 fa cup in 4 seasons, bottled top 4 and finished 8th but he’s on the list cause they’ve played well a few games this season after spending one of the most amount of money in the league since he joined🤣

[@thedon4881]

Couldn’t say it better myself 😂😂

[@awreckedislethisfunction8909]

arteta cleared a lot of deadwood........ i dont get it with money we signed an entire squad in the money man utd payed for 4-5 players

[@Arban19]

@@awreckedislethisfunction8909 exactly, City spent 2/3rd of our last summer’s entire outlay on Grealish, are we not going to have a semblance of objectivity in our discourse? Arteta wasn’t doing a plain vanilla rebuilt- he overhauled the entire squad. And getting into top 5 ahead of Utd, West Ham and others with that young squad with two academy graduates, one guy from Brazilian third div, a LB with attention span of a goldfish, a DM who signed a contract with the hospital, is no mean feat ffs, another 3 points and we’d finish ahead of a Kulu-Kane-Son front three team managed by Antonio Fuckin Conte

[@jackwilliams659]

@@awreckedislethisfunction8909 you had 4 seasons to buy a new squad, we’ve signed 6 players this summer finder ten Haag who are all great players, if ten Haag had the same period of time at United than arteta has had at Arsenal then we would be in a much better situation as we are already played a good brand off football beating 2 big 6 sides in our first 6

[@awreckedislethisfunction8909]

@@jackwilliams659 that's because all you guys do is splash the cash on superstars who have massive attitude problems and absolute 0 chemistry...... your wage budget is fucked up too...... that shows how well your club is run

[@hashiramasenju7418]

PL bias is crazy. Finishing 8th twice then 5th is better than taking a team to Champions League semi-final. also winning domestic trophies while not spending money and utilising youths.

[@rambo1872]

Leaving out the fact he absolutely bottled that semi final

[@hashiramasenju7418]

@@rambo1872 it still doesn’t diminish the achievement. Bring Ajax further into CL since the 90s CL winning team. But, winning FA cup during covid and bottling top 4 is good enough to be 4th best manager PL.

[@Arban19]

@@hashiramasenju7418 bruh, Arteta did all of that with either kids with ratings in the 70s or pensioners with ratings in 70s, you know that right? ETH had world class talent at his disposal when he reached the UCL. But would he be able to deliver with the squad that Arteta is? I don’t wanna diminish ETH, I was very impressed with his approach in the game against Arsenal, but could he do it with a Brazilian from third tier of national football and not the third choice winger of the national team with a 100m price tag?

[@Dancryptic]

@@Arban19 @Anirban Kar world-class talent????..who made them world class=Eth...tadic was a bench warmer in Southampton,Antony was just some talent before going to Ajax no much hype..he really collectively utilized does players and made them world class...that's what good coach does..let pep handle someone like martinelli....bro arteta is overrated 3yrs no CL footballover 300mil spent...hell ole or lampard even got CL football at least...arteta just living the maxed out luck FA cup trophy

[@siddheshgothankar8298]

@@Arban19 you are out of your mind all these world class players you mentioned in 18-19 ajax team have either been avg or flop at their new clubs. Eth made them what they are . Hence their value was higher

[@drewellis95]

"Oh it's easy to win the dutch league" really because Ajax did not win it for like 5 years before Ten Hag came in so there goes that little statement Potter is not a better coach then Ten Hag so disrespectful plus Arteta in previous seasons got 8th, 8th then failed to get top 4 😂

[@pienza4864]

Pep has triple times more European-Continental including UCL trophies to Klopp. &Its dodge to say he would swap his multiple PL sprees fr another single CL by managing in England

[@muhammada4297]

That Liverpool fan just waffles

[@ThePlaylistFootball]

Do you think Pep will win the CL this year? Surely it's as good a chance as any with Erling up top...

[@cravenmoorehead6265]

@@ThePlaylistFootball I thought Rory said Haaland will score 15 goals😭😭

[@mdi3024]

🤣🤣🤣 United really did some damage back in the days,a manager with three league titles played champions league football and another with an fA cup makes it in the list and not the other,it will be sweet coming back to this podcast when they'll have to eat their words

[@williamsfranklyn9275]

Robbie kept saying Arteta has won a trophy. Well i don’t think that’s the reason Robbie and the others added Arteta to the list of top 5 PL managers. The reason Arteta is on this list is because of how good his side has been this season and this is not a good enough reason to put him in the top 5 PL managers

[@ThePlaylistFootball]

Who would you replace him with?

[@williamsfranklyn9275]

My list of who i think is better regardless of how long they’ve been coaching in the prem would be Pep, Klopp, Conte, Ten hag, Potter Top 5 PL manager list would be Pep, Klopp, Conte, Potter, Arteta If Arteta can be consistent on how his team is currently playing then easily he is going to be among the top 3 PL manager in a few years

[@ThePlaylistFootball]

@@williamsfranklyn9275 Yes, what do you think Ten Hag has to achieve in his first year to get into that PL list? Top 4 and a trophy of some kind?

[@tomisinosabia967]

Guardiola, Klopp, Conte, Ten Hag, Potter

[@mandaroncondlima2832]

As an LFC fan I would put my manager right at the top but Klopp himself has said PEP is the no. 1 in the world Ade. We have to give PEP his flowers, he is elite, although City have won the league prior to him, I'm not convinced they do it season in, season out without him.

[@aaronshone30]

“Tottenham fan telling me about bottling” was well funny😂😂

[@hellohi1445]

Since conte joined, spurs have been doing anything from bottling whilst I can’t say the same for arsenal.

[@donone352]

@@hellohi1445 What 8 months lol ???

[@hellohi1445]

@@donone352 u literally bottled top 4…to the bottlers. That’s some next level shit.

[@donone352]

@@hellohi1445 O really, you've bottled your whole history 🤣🤣🤣. I've seen arsenal win 5 league titles and 8 Fa cups. What have you seen Tottenham win boy 🤣🤣🤣

[@Gargamel616]

@@donone352 He hasn't seen any glory at the Lane😂..... Apart from us showing them how to win the title🏆

[@abz767]

8th back to back & bottling top 4 puts you in top 5 managers in the league, 😭unbelievable

[@boubacarbah1937]

How has Arteta been punching above his weight by finishing 8th twice and bottle a top 4 finish last season? 😂

[@billyferaldy]

Its simple. Arsenal were down in the dumps. So many aging players, underperforming players like Mustafi, Sokratis, Kolasinac, even Ozil to some extent. Don't forget we just lost our longest serving manager, legendary manager. Its not easy, you can see it with Emery, an experienced manager with very good CV, he can't handle that. I think the 8th position has always been coming for Arsenal, like when United finished 7th under Moyes, Arsenal have worse squad, lack of investment for years, lack of planning, remember the last 2 seasons under Wenger we didn't qualify for UCL. Its always a very hard job for any manager, of course he still has to deliver us top 4 and possibly a trophy this season, but he will always be remembered for the way he rebuilt the squad, we have one of the youngest squad in Europe, probably the best young squad so far.

[@hellohi1445]

@@billyferaldy yeh well Tottenham down in the dumps finished above arsenal still. Conte literally called them shit whilst managing them. “I don’t lose 4 out of 5 games usually” Also other teams have been in the dumps. Brighton have…look at potter. Leicester have…instantly competed for top 4 in their first full season under Rodgers. Not shot was competing for mid table “punching above his weight” 🤦‍♂️

[@sreeharie821]

Isn't that punching above his weight, aren't they a Championship team😜

[@billyferaldy]

@@hellohi1445 but Arteta won the FA Cup. Semi final of Europa, and he didn't get his main number 10 target. Potter has done very good job but at Brighton, expectations are different, Arsenal have history of winning bro. And when you say Spurs down in the dumps, i agree but not at Arsenal level. They still have top class players like Kane and Son in their prime and they have reached UCL final just 3 years ago. Name me one player in their prime who is still at Arsenal when Arteta took over?

[@yester9037]

@@hellohi1445 If Arteta and Conte left at the end of season, which team is setup for the future your best two players will be 30, need a new GK, fullbacks etc

[@siralexferguson4640]

They all got Potter top 5 ? Give it a rest guys.

[@hellohi1445]

Rodgers clear>

[@micah0190]

@@hellohi1445 Even Rodgers is crap

[@hellohi1445]

@@micah0190 no shot are u crazy?

[@adams8748]

If this is purely based off of time managing during the premier league then I think Eddie Howe has a shout. To keep Bournemouth up for that amount of time and to turn Newcastle around when he came in is something to shout about.

[@kurtsudheim825]

Plus what he did at Bournemouth, for a decade to then only have one bad season, where the squad was severely lacking...

[@taghreedsameer2353]

as a city fan i definitely wont swipe 4 PL for 1 CL i could agree i losing the race this season and get a CL but for sure wont take 1CL over 4PL

[@EsteemedKompany]

lol of course he isn't. Maybe one day he will be, but right now the idea is laughable. Conte is one of the most successful managers in world football. It's not even close.

[@mrzakyboy3453]

My Top 5 managers (right now) 1. Pep Guardiola 2. Jurgen Klopp 3. Antonio Conte 4. Erik Ten Hag 5. Brendan Rodgers

[@mrzakyboy3453]

@@karljan4164 1. I put right now because it changes constantly. 2. He got Top 5 twice with Leicester City and won them an FA Cup.

[@hellohi1445]

@@mrzakyboy3453 I think overall Rodgers is still top 5. Better than arteta and potter that’s for sure.

[@micah0190]

@@mrzakyboy3453 Brendan Rodgers isn’t a top 5 manager .

[@jizz9010]

Brendan rodgers 🤣

[@bigchedda3747]

Bro said “even with a team like Brighton you can win a league cup” 1 out of the last 16 finalists weren’t a top 6 club

[@wrighthartlane99]

I would go for Robbies order

[@JohnSmith-ji8tu]

Get another lady/spurs supporter please. Can’t even argue why Conte should be considered a better manager than Klopp. Personally I believe Klopp is better but there’s definitely a much closer argument than she’s presented. Rory is basically doing it for her 🤣

[@sleepindragon179]

Antonio Conte has won multiple league titles with different clubs in different countries. Arteta is a long way from that. The silverware says it all. Pep Klopp Conte With these three your talking winning the very best. Arteta has won one FA Cup so far. A long way off these three. And Potter hasn't won anything at all. There's a gap in experience and silverware for every other manager from the top three.

[@hellohi1445]

Potter not winning anything is fair since he’s at Brighton. Arteta has no excuse. I don’t wanna hear no “oh look at our players” from arsenal fans because Leicester had worse and they achieved as much as arteta.

[@madtitan-bringerofgenocide]

Guardiola is the greatest manager to ever live

[@tombowles1]

My Top 5 PL managers right now: 1. Pep 2. Klopp 3. Conte 4. Ten Hag 5. Arteta Think the panel were harsh on Ten Hag. Won multiple trophies in Holland, excelled in the Champions League and already impressing at Man Utd, especially considering their start to the season. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s third on the list come the end of the season.

[@whiskeyjack9]

Robbie, Rory and Expressions we need this trio to be summoned again for a joint venture

[@ahahahah9189]

Arteta has not been managing long enough to be considered a top 5 EPL manager at the moment - he's already shown glimpses that he can be a great manager and this season is one where he can establish himself as one

[@paboykorta3651]

not talking of finishing 8th for two previous seasons

[@ahahahah9189]

@@paboykorta3651 first half season yeah (he came in Dec 2019) and won an FA Cup, then the following season was terrible (particularly the first half of the season - I wanted him out during this period of the season where were were in a relegation battle come December), then the season after (last season) he did alright but shouldve got top 4 (despite exceeding expectations at the start of the seasons, he should've secured top 4 and we bottled it - we also had no European football the whole season). So he's been managing for 2.5 seasons now and his first big job is at a big club in Arsenal - so he's been learning on the job at a club of this size - was bound to have bad periods - this season is the one for him to prove and establish himself potentially as one of the better PL managers

[@Arban19]

This Pep guy and Roman Abrahamovic’s philosophy has altered the very psyche of football fans, we now clearly don’t understand how a manager doesn’t win in the first season he’s in charge of. How many trophies did SAF win in this first 3 years in charge?

[@themakaveli7909]

How can man say arteta should not be considered in the top 5 managers in the PL atm?? He’s sitting at the top of the league. 6 games in. That’s even with HAALAND at city, and Liverpool with their dons ffs Get real. Your looking at a come up

[@ahahahah9189]

@@themakaveli7909 if you consider just this season so far then yeah - but im considering all the managers in general and their entire managerial careers. He's done really well so far this season and hopefully he can continue that - if he does really well this season then he can be involved in the discussion for top 5 PL managers - he has only been a manager for 2.5 seasons - compare that with the other names discussed in the video.

[@Akan123]

Arteta isn't in there yet, Brendan Rodgers is better but based on where Leicester are currently he won't get in for recency bias, they've both won 1 F.A Cup and he's finished higher in the league more times than Arteta, love potter maybe Arteta could be 5th not sure but if Tuchel was still here neither Potter or Arteta would get in

[@frenchgooner617]

Finally they got an arsenal fan in

[@Blanke-i3h]

Klopp has won titles with Dortmund and Liverpool. Pep can only work with immaculate squads and unlimited budget, couldn't even win the Champions League with Bayern and City (two of the best teams in the last decade).

[@adam01101]

Arteta has one FA cup plz don't compare to Conte etc.

[@WeAreTottenhamTV]

List of managers better than Arteta: Guardiola Klopp Conte Potter Howe Rodgers Frank Ten Haag

[@aswinasok9357]

Understandable from your display name

[@hellohi1445]

@@aswinasok9357 but he just spit facts. Well minus lampard cause that’s debatable but the managers listed are clear.

[@yashdeepnaik8149]

but how many trophies Howe,Potter and Frank Lampard won??🤣🤣 Arteta has already won a trophy for Arsenal than last 5 or 6 Tottenham managers 🤣🤣

[@saranshsharma4005]

Finally, someone put Eddie Howe in the list.. Nice..

[@sofus47]

@@hellohi1445 think its Thomas Frank

[@theopolm3553]

When we Talk about Klopp we often forget je Would have won 2 or 3 More PL Titles if There wouldnt have Been City who couldnt be stopped.

[@darea1743]

Kept waiting for the Cam to get on Abbi. She's so gorgeous!!!!!😍

[@liamanderson8008]

I feel like Moyes deserves to be in top 5 done brilliant with everton and Westham

[@ThePlaylistFootball]

What about Sunderland? Do you think that was just a blip...

[@easynowoldchap04]

Pep says himself the premier league is the main priority at the start of every season

[@josephicha9150]

Debut victory and clean sheet for the Don, this is why he's clear

[@youandme9569]

I got to agree with Ade here … Pep’s remit since he went to Munich and City has been to win the champions league and he hasn’t been able to. The fact that he always won the league at BUNDESLIGA and EPL is simply due to financial advantage these two clubs have in their respective leagues . Whether is fair or unfair that’s another story but it’s don’t think his coaching has been the dominant factor why City and Bayern continue to win those league titles.

[@uvongcukana5440]

Every team in the world would rather have pep as their manager over klop, no club would ever sack pep Barcelona were not big spenders when pep was there Madrid definitely spent far more in that time period but Barca under pep was still the dominant team in Spain Messi,Xavi, Iniesta were not the iconic players that everyone remembers them as prior to 2009 only once pep came then messi,xavi and iniesta became the best players in the world even with most of his city players now KDB,concelo,Bernardo silva, Rodri gundagon were all not the players they are now before they came to city but because they are playing under pep and his system they shine that’s all credit to pep it’s stupid to say pep won the two CL titles with Barca because he had the best team in the world!! He made them the best team in history they weren’t even the best team in Spain when he arrived!! He bought an un-used pique from united got busquets from la masia and Alves from sevilla these are all very smart signings and not a lot of money was splashed in his first season there but he still won everything he competed for

[@thelegendthatischels]

Arteta doesent have the credentials to be compared to conte yet tbh bit of a pointless question with an obvious awnser.

[@dankuah3687]

I hate it when the media starts asking who is better. Better player or better manager. Why does this sound so important to them that they can argue over this? Its just personal opinions.

[@MaychTV]

I think it's 1) Klopp, 2) Pep, 3) Conte and 4th will be decided this season on who finishes top 4. If Arsenal do it's Arteta, if Chelsea do it's Potter.

[@mrhussain9008]

Bro, please leave your bias out of it. It's clearly: 1. Pep 2. Klopp 3. Conte (Conte is closer to Klopp than Klopp is to Pep) 4. Arteta 5. Erik ten Haag Man United fan.

[@hellohi1445]

@@mrhussain9008 no shot arteta is in top 4. Ole was probably better cause he had dead wood like McFred and maguire but still finished in top 4. Twice.

[@mrhussain9008]

@@hellohi1445 Maguire and Fred were wanted by Pep in 2019. They were very highly rated at the time of purchase. Solksjaer ruined many players.

[@hellohi1445]

@@mrhussain9008 still deadwood at the end of the day. But ole improved players like shaw, greenwood Bruno.

[@mohammadrasoulfard-habibi3066]

@@mrhussain9008 Give Klopp a billion lad. Klopp has won every club trophy. He's the daddy because he's won the lot. Ooooosh.

[@issie_adams]

I love how Robbie & Arsenal fans cream for Arteta seeing that they wanted him out a year ago 🤣🤣 According to them the standard of being a top manager is finishing 8th two seasons in a row & winning the FA cup 🤣🤣🤣

[@Tony_jr12]

1. Pep 2.Klopp 3.Conte 4.Ten Haag 5.Potter Rodgers finished 5th, 5th and 8th with Leicester. Arteta 8th, 8th and 5th with arsenal but yeah Artetas 4th best 🤔🤥

[@JohnSmith-ji8tu]

Graham Potter being on this list is just a clear example of recency bias.

[@frankreynolds9930]

He overachieved with way smaller teams. Winning a weak league is nothing.

[@JohnSmith-ji8tu]

@@frankreynolds9930 He overachieved at Brighton, didn’t win anything though. Rodgers overachieved at Leicester and won an FA Cup.

[@saranshsharma4005]

Pep, Klopp, Conte, Mikel and Eddie/David

[@jordandavis3867]

I see alot of people slating Arteta in the comments how he's been at Arsenal for three years...... You guys realise it is exactly three years since he's actually been involved in management right? That means he has had to learn on the job while also fixing the off field issues and culture of the club and he's managed to do fix all of that while also winning the community shield and F.A Cup. Arsenal are unrecognizable in comparison to the last 3 or 4 years. In fact this season they look wayyy better than they have for 10 years. People are actually afraid of going to the Emirates. I sometimes forget he's only3 years into his managerial career.

[@ThePlaylistFootball]

Do you think they could go all the way? Is top 4 not ambitious enough...

[@anthonymoses8830]

Pep Klopp, Tuchel & Conte were the elite and now it's just the 3 since Tuchel is gone.

[@Foos3yOW]

Seeing Potter this high now is so funny

[@jameswilkins9575]

Give Klopp the same money Peps had it’s different result! Give Pep the same restraints Klopps had no way he wins as many leagues!

[@sathyantinku9177]

I think Arteta needs atleast one more season. I realize he has recruited well for past two seasons and has gotten rid of players who can't play his system. But to be truly competitive to top team, you need atleast one more striker of Gabriel's caliber and better alternate to Partey. I hope Balogun and Patino comes through next season.

[@ThePlaylistFootball]

Balogun seems to be having an excellent loan spell at Reims this year (5 goals in 6 games). Do you think he's one to watch?

[@uvongcukana5440]

1 more season?!! How many times are we going to Keep saying this? I think if he doesn’t win anything this season or get top 4 he never will

[@WaniZame]

Arteta and Ten Hag being in the top 5 is mad. They’ve done nothing in the Prem.

[@samjall9216]

We have a novice manager in Arteta so the 2 can’t be compared.I would compare Conte and Jose.

[@hellohi1445]

Conte and Jose is so alike. 2 world class managers.

[@jessemhally5385]

Don't compare Jose to that wigman....Jose is far ahead,he is actually close to Pep..

[@suyamsubedi7178]

@@jessemhally5385 closest to pep actually is between Jose and Carlo Pep Carlo Jose Klopp

[@billycarroll385]

1. Pep 2. Klopp 3. Conte 4. Ten Hag 5. Silva

[@singingspud716]

In the time arteta has been a premier league manager, rodgers has had an almost identical record at Leicester, yet you would never consider him for this list. So to say arteta should be above ten Hag just based on his premier league record is absurd imo, especially considering ten Hag has had a much more successful career overall.

[@ravi1993k]

11:40 The way they laugh at Spurs 😂😂

[@johnnyd1790]

1. I love how Rory is taken to school more and more by and about Arteta. 2. I don't completely agree with Roby, Conte did a good job since January when he found a Spurs team in disarray and managed to get them top 4 against their rivals, so it's not only based on what he did outside Tottenham, like 5-10% is Spurs activity too. 3. If Conte would've been beaten by Arteta in the contest for top 4, I think Conte's 3rd position would be in jeopardy, so it's not only based on what he did outside The PL, is it? It would've been more of a contest then between the 2 then. 4. Arteta 3 years ago did find an Arsenal much below Spurs, that FA Cup has put a blinder over everyone's eyes, and instead of starting the reconstruction that summer, he postponed it with a year because he won that trophy and fed into the likes of Rory's mouths that he's not good enough when in fact the rotting stopped at 8th when he came to Arsenal, because the team was in a slippery slope. Who knows how much we'd have fallen without him. 5. The Auba business was incredibly hard, everyone loved Auba (except for me - that's why I like Arteta because we both haven't seen a WC player there, I liked even Giroud better) so he must find the reason to kick arguably the star of the team out, because he doesn't defend, because he does that idiotic jogging on the field instead of running to get the ball, etc. It could've easily blown in his face, but he managed it well with Martinelli firing. Difficult moment passed up well. 6. North London derby this weekend he owned Conte. 7. He'll finish easy above Spurs this season as I said at the beginning of the season, because our titans Jesus and Saliba upped the team 50% at least in peach performance, also with Zinchenko in what means a winning mentality while Spurs have the same 1st eleven and same game as last season. The managers don't play on the pitch, the players do, it's just not enough, Arsenal's players are that much better as everyone sees in these past 8 games. Hehehe. (We play with reserves, U23s in EL Groups no problems as all the idiots drool / drivel "Thursday, Thursday!", problems are for those who have CL and must play the 1st team, and in January we'll buy that illusive CDM for Partey, then we're all set. ;) )

[@stevenmwamba2129]

How on earth can anyone even insinuate this, let alone debate?

[@alvinanis3006]

The disrespect Ten Hag gets is unreal.

[@josephicha9150]

At the start of last season when Arteta was bottom of the league, nobody was saying he deserves to be top 5 managers because of the FA Cup. They don't actually rate that, it's just a stick with which to beat other people around the head. They think he deserves to be top five managers because Arsenal are currently playing well and that's pretty much it

[@ThePlaylistFootball]

It just shows, sometimes perseverance and patience pays off. Do you think he's capable of landing the big one at Arsenal?

[@josephicha9150]

@@ThePlaylistFootball I like Arteta tbf, I was wrong to say Arsenal should have sacked him and ever since All or Nothing came out I've realised what he can do as a manager, but if he doesn't get top four or a trophy this season (and he can genuinely get both so there's no room for excuses) it won't look good. No trophy OR final since that FA cup win btw, so yeah the pressure is on, but he's had a great start and Arsenal fans couldn't really ask for more

[@cavanriley7373]

I'm a red but jurgen is nowhere near pep as a manager or a coach that man is the definition of garunteed trophies.

[@jose56789-b]

before ten haag arrived at ajax they last won the league in 2013 so putting potter and arteta two managers with no champions league games on their cvs

[@magwaismail6627]

If they were talking about premier league then moyes and Brendan Rodgers shud be above Potter and Arteta, regardless they are not doing well this season, they have put their teams in better positions before the current season

[@aphiwenzama4610]

Having Potter there is wild!!!!!!!!!!

[@drippystaff5657]

Absolutely ridiculous list. Ten Haag is 4 th end off debate. Potter and Arteta can fight it out for 5th

[@AFTVmedia]

Arteta is definitely in there. Put respect on his name.

[@forevaschemin]

Not really. Rodgers is arguably better. 4 years at Arsenal and you’ve been 7th and 8th with One FA cup. He’s not as good as you make him to be. This is the season he has to prove himself

[@mac10ner]

Respect for what?? He's done fuck all

[@FatTodd]

@@forevaschemin hard to prove yourself when your first job is managing arsenal football club pal, not fucking ostersuns in Sweden or wherever tf Rodger’s started lol. I respect them guys working their Way up but Mikel is different gravy man. Ppl look at the badge and name of arsenal rather than the state the club was in and the dross we had. Still won us an FA cup before he dissembled that team because that’s their ceiling. 👏

[@hellohi1445]

Arteta is 6th. Ten hag is probably better cause in his first season he’s competing for top 4. Rodgers clear. Conte klopp pep light years away.

[@user-tr1hx7jx4r]

Embarrassing

[@NoTippyTappyFootball]

Arteta COULD be one day, but Conte's trophy cabinet says it all for now!

[@hellohi1445]

No shot. Arteta needs 500 million and 3 years to compete. Antonio could do it in his first season. There’s levels and Mikel won’t reach them.

[@ciamgranda5786]

Ten Hag's Ajax was superb if only he had the money to add to that young Ajax side there is no doubt he would have won the UCL, comparing Arteta and Potter to a guy who destroyed Real Madrid and Juve a guy who's literally called mini Pep is just unbelievable Arteta, Conte and Potter would never match Ten Hag's achievement at Ajax.

[@RoryJenningsFootball]

Conte comparable to Klopp and Guardiola and no one else in the league.

[@thecontextual1one411]

I don't understand the Arteta wankfest

[@chinmaypurohit3431]

Rory putting Ten Hag ahead of Potter and Arteta because he did go deep in CL and Won Erdeveise every year. But Arteta is lower than Potter because Chelsea??? I think if Potter makes the list so does Arteta as he has won FA Cup and built a good squad

[@frankreynolds9930]

Potter overacheiveing with much worse team.

[@mezzala1014]

If they are comparing achievements. How’s Potter in there and not Brendan Rogers. What’s Potter won?

[@garyhughes1808]

Greatest meme of all time! Abbys face when she knew she done fucked up!!!!!!🤣🤣🤣

[@AeolianMusica]

Feels like Ade made the wrong arguments for Klopp. Trophy hall isn’t where Klopp is better than Pep. The debate for me is that Klopp could go to pretty much any club and win things, in time. Guardiola seems to need certain types of players. Not saying Klopp’s better, but if I were a team without a phenomenal academy and the ability to bring in lots of players, I’s want Klopp not Pep.

[@saranshsharma4005]

Klopp doesn't need certain types of players??? So, why bring Van Dijk, Alisson, Tiago, Fabinho?? They are all certain type of players with definitive qualities

[@thecontextual1one411]

Klopp maybe a better coach than Pep (debatable) but he's not anywhere near him as an actual manager because he's not good at managing upwards.

[@Sibstajimjam1719]

Ten hag has got Ajax to a champions league semi final and won numerous titles at Ajax, so why is a rookie manager who has won no titles in the top 5.

[@kyleparr9513]

Rory only person that's not braindead in that room.

[@darcy5754]

And that’s saying something 😂

[@samtaverner5348]

Claudio Ranieri and Alex Ferguson

[@benorim]

No ManUtd fan. So obviously, no bias here at all. Wtf has Potter done more than Ten Hag ? 😅😂

[@brintleyt2535]

Sorry but surely Moyes should be in there ahead of Arteta. Granted, he is managing a club with more prestige, but what he has done in his PL career outweighs Arteta, ESPECIALLY as he has been managing in the PL for 5 MINs!! And, if Potter is in for a shout, Moyes has to be considered. Unless there is something obvious that I’m missing and I’m just being daft 😂

[@OkA-007]

1. Pep 2. Klopp 3. Arteta 4. Conte 5. Potter

[@speckg7124]

The comment that Guardiola would swap all those league titles for a champions league was ignorant and misinformed. Could tell his knowledge from that comment right there. Guardiola from the beginning and consistently has always stated that he prioritizes the league over the champions league. You don’t play 38 games not to try and win it.

[@dylannyambi2424]

"Ten Hag hasn't don't it in the PL" oh yes because the Dutch league is rugby

[@adrianpheiffer9960]

Well it's a fair point since we specifically discussing the PL... Let's be real do you even watch or follow the Eredivisie or the "Dutch league" as you call it lol..

[@superguy1230]

To say Pep would swap all 4 of his PL titles for 1 UCL is utterly ridiculous! If it was 1 or 2 PL titles then maybe