8BitDo M30 Controller: Small but packs a punch!

[@epickillerxd]

Can confirm it works with the brook converter on ps5

[@RushG]

Awesome! Thanks for confirming. Is that the Brook Wingman?

[@preamstrikbiz0]

Ohhhhh yes !!!! I just ordered one from prime day ! Now to get the brook adapter ( I should have gotten that adapter when it came out lol )

[@Oddclam]

The FGC one right ? I was hoping to get this controller and an adapter for the PS5. I have the original M30 but I would like the extra buttons this version has

[@hamptonwooster]

how's the input delay?

[@Brian-rt5bb]

I really liked mine a lot (it was one of the ones with only 2 shoulder buttons) but I will say the shoulder buttons aren't the greatest--mine broke so that it was very loose, it's hard to describe but it moved around in a way it shouldn't and it finally broke mid-match a week ago, the right shoulder button no longer works consistently. Still, it's cheap enough and lasted long enough I'm not mad about it, and I legit love the DPad and button layout. I'm probably gonna buy another.

[@owningthehand]

Got this controller after my hori fightpad broke. Feels like an improvement over the hori pad in every way imo.

[@dnkndonutts8662]

I got the hori pad a while ago and it had a big issue of diagonal inputs not coming out it was literally impossible to play with as I keep dropping all the quarter circle input had to return it. I just order this one after seeing the video hopefully it’s good like you say

[@RushG]

The old Hori was great but the new Hori I had the same issue with diagonals and inputs These Saturn style dpads are a lot better

[@Shinryuken15]

I'm honestly getting demotivated from playing FGs because of the continuous trial and error with pads. Just can't seem to find one that ticks all boxes. The biggest problem is things like the d-pad (which is my biggest challenge) are particularly subjective, so you have to buy pads before you know whether you'll like them. Anyway, just a pointless little rant from me, sorry! But Rush, as usual, I appreciate what you do bro. Hopefully our endless quest of finding the right controller ends one day 😅

[@RushG]

I'm in a very similar situation, I love all of the recent pads in some ways but there is something "up" with each one of them making me not feel 100% confident in them I'm actually back on the old Hori (switch version) at the moment as the controller feels good and has a good button layout. The dpad isn't the best but overall / at the moment I feel most comfortable on this pad

[@musicJRF]

Have you tried the Hori Fighting Commander? I tried the Switch version first. It's great, but the shape makes it a little uncomfortable to hold for a long period of playing. The Xbox/PS versions of the Commander are much more comfortable, and I was able to get used to the D-Pads to the point to be able to do Wavedashes/Electrics in Tekken 8 on it. I'm a long time Fightstick player who just transitioned to Pad last year.

[@hamptonwooster]

thanks for the review, you and I have the same fight pad SF6 layout lol

[@theconsolekiller7113]

Does anyone know if this new M30 still has turbo functionality that can be mapped, on the fly, without using an app, and for each button? Can you map keyboard keys to the buttons using the app? Or combinations of two keyboard keys to a single button on the controller? This is useful for saving and loading states when practicing games on a controller without having to use the keyboard.

[@RushG]

@@theconsolekiller7113 I dont remember seeing any sort of binds or auto functions on this pad You may be able to set buttons to save and load options in the games you're playing yourself via the game options

[@theconsolekiller7113]

@@RushG Appreciate the feedback. The previous M30 had turbo when you held down the little button with 3 horizontal lines in it and then pressed the button you wanted to map turbo to. You turned off the feature the same way. I havent been able to find any info if this model also supports turbo.

[@RushG]

@@theconsolekiller7113 not sure if this applies to the new or old one, there seems to be some issues with this though if you're on Switch - manual.8bitdo.com/m30/m30_turbo.html

[@theconsolekiller7113]

@@RushG Appreciate the feedback !! Im going to assume its the old one. I finally got a search to come up on google and it said that the Xbox version doesnt support turbo. If you do try it, hold down that button and press a button, and find that it does or doesnt set it to turbo, let me know. Im assuming its not supported. Im guessing because its official Xbox licensed now , they might consider that cheating.

[@MinaKamiXiV]

Got it today and I use it on tekken 8 pc pretty crispy and the pad is the best part about it

[@junior1388666]

I also play on fightpad but i only use 4 buttons on the front and the bumpers up top. Didint know anybody actually used the 6 buttons, or if they did they'd use a different grip to use 3 fingers on it. This seems like way too much work for one thumb lol Love these controller reviews, keep it up!

[@RushG]

I've already tried it and reviewed it. I was really disappointed regarding the dpad, clunky and inaccurate. It felt like a huge step backwards from the previous model

[@ultrainstinct4766]

I bought the pad and I'm just waiting for it to arrive, but I'm afraid I won't get used to it, because from the videos and images, it seems to be very small, and my hands are a little big. What are your impressions about the size and comfort when playing?

[@RushG]

You will notice it feeling small, it's not ideal but it's also not a major issue IMO. I've been able to adjust already and it feels okay. Call it a 7.7/10 for comfort 😅

[@ultrainstinct4766]

​@@RushGThank you, it makes me calmer, I'll adapt to using it

[@AustenValentine]

How is the comfort 6 months later? I have the wireless Saturn version and the dpad hand aches after a while. Reminds me of playing on a snes pad. Cramped for long fingers.

[@RushG]

Imo whilst the dpad and button mappings on this pad are amazing, for bigger hands this pad is not comfortable. It's small in size and it's thin so it's difficult to maintain a good grip. Not a pad I used frequently anymore. The smallest size I can do is the Betop C3. Sega Saturn shaped controllers are also too small for me at least in terms of comfort

[@AustenValentine]

@@RushG Ok so all of these 8bitdo 6-buttons are uncomfortably small. I've already switched to a stock Series X controller in the meantime. It's a decent size and the dpad is amazingly clicky and precise. I just wish someone made a 6-button version with the same materials and construction. I'll see how it goes, but I'll keep the Betop in mind. With your feedback, it's been recommended enough now in terms of price and comfort that it might be worth acquiring.

[@Krazyampotiks]

Considering this and betop had the same price range, which one is better and lasts longer?

[@RushG]

@@Krazyampotiks the dpad on the 8bitdo becomes very "loose" the more you use it. The Betop is better in this area IMO, the dpad will become a little loose over time but it will last longer in that regard. The Betop is the better pad overall again IMO based on it's shape and design. The 8bitdo is really small and this does make it a little hard to hold for long periods

[@Krazyampotiks]

@RushG oh and i forgot to ask. since you own those two for a lot of months now, how are the conditions of them now? Should i still go for betop?

[@RushG]

Condition of both is good. The m30 I kept getting accident jumps due to how sensitive the inputs are on the dpad (seems to have got more sensitive as time goes on). The Betop still solid though, even when the dpad bad loosened up it was still great. The shape of the Betop imo, it's much better. Just a shame that all buttons can't be mapped to on the Betop

[@emilf8277]

What about this controller do you prefer over the saturn controller?

[@RushG]

In the video I stated that I like the button configuration on the 8bitdo. I can map the buttons exactly how I like them, the Saturn pad was much more limited regarding buttons mappings. Saturn pad has the better size and shape

[@hnoorshn4138]

Can we map a direction button to a shoulder button ?

[@RushG]

Nope. Doesn't let you do this

[@kumaSOevl]

Hey rush have you tried out the switch version of the hori fighting commmander?

[@RushG]

The old model (not the Hori OCTA)? If so yes, I currently have one that's had little to no use. It's just as good as the PS4 version IMO. Pretty much the same

[@SFU8907]

Is there any chance to switch the dpad? I would like to have a dpad like the dpad of the betop c3. That would be optimal for me.

[@RushG]

Not sure. Pad customisations isn't something I have experience in

[@filevans]

hello i read this has bluetooth on it and can be connected by bluetooth, and can also be connected by wireless, is that true?

[@RushG]

There is a wireless model (only two shoulder buttons) but this one is not wireless. Only wired

[@filevans]

@@RushG have you tested the lag on both models to see how they compare?

[@RushG]

@@filevans I don't have the previous model nor do I have the equipment to test input lag. Something I can look into in the future. Sorry!

[@filevans]

@@RushG you dont need equipment, air head, there are loads of ways of doing it, just forget it you're dense

[@RushG]

@@filevans you're calling me an airhead when I googled whether this model supports wireless for you. And you assumed I had the other (wireless) model for comparison. This channel is dead, you're lucky you even got a response let alone me taking up 90 seconds of my time to research something you could of done yourself. Just unsubscribe / dislike, go bother an active KZbinr or better yet take your own money to do your own testing, to make some original content on your KZbin channel. Some real fresh and fit follower, beta male energy having internet moron.

[@inksword6029]

Does the dpad feel soft (in a good way)? I ask cause I'm playing with the betop with the other dpad attachment and im missing diagonals and my thumb hurts when i play for a long time, i used to play with a ps4 controller before with no issues but i didn't like using rb and rt for heavy kick and punch

[@RushG]

Id say it's similar to the Betop, maybe has a bit more resistance to it, only marginal. The dpad shape on the 8bitso is soft to touch and smooth. No sharp edges. The main point though is this pad is really small. Be warned 😅

[@inksword6029]

@@RushG thank you so much :]

[@luisfelipegonzalez4423]

Did it connect directly to xbox one?

[@phaze5594]

I might have to get this pad over the betop what do you think?

[@RushG]

This pad has a better Dpad, better button configuration, bigger and better shoulder buttons. Betop has a better size and design, I have a feeling the Betop dpad may last longer than this one. Time will tell.

[@ArthurSantos-og3hg]

Would you recommend this one over the Betop? No idea which one I should get.

[@RushG]

Betop is better, this pad is really small, can be uncomfortable

[@jintei8524]

Loved the original m30 so much i got both colors and i'm inclined to getting this one as well for its trigger buttons Just one question about the xbox version. Did you get stuck directions on this one? It's a common issue on the 2.4ghz m30 (happened on both of mine) so i wonder if 8bitdo has fixed the dpad for this newer version

[@RushG]

The pad literally came today so it's only initial impression at this point. I'll keep you updated

[@unseenjungle5386]

Rush on a pad spreee... this one looks kinda small/tiny... good stuff bro!

[@mattdavis9601]

Question: Do you know if this unofficially works with Android? The official specs don't list it; but, Android usually plays nice with wired controllers. It'd be cool to use with emulators and Xbox Cloud. I usually play emulators on a tablet propped up on a desk, so being wired doesn't matter. I could probably drill a hole through a phone clip where the USB port is situated and connect it to my phone on the go with a short C to C cable I have. It'd be small and convenient. I'm rambling, lol. Sorry.

[@RushG]

Just so I understand, you're connecting the controller to the android device via the USB port? I have a Google Pixel 6a so I can attempt to connect the pad to it, USB C to USB C, is this what you're trying to achieve?

[@mattdavis9601]

@@RushG - Yes, that's exactly it. I have other controllers that plug in to my Android devices over USB-C and work just fine; but, they're not this layout. Thank you in advance for testing it out. I appreciate it.

[@RushG]

@@mattdavis9601 ok perfect. I'll try this out shortly and let you know

[@RushG]

Hey Matt. Ive tried this and the pad does connect and I can input some things in specific games (skip menus and bring up options) but in terms of controlling stuff in game the buttons don't seem to do anything. Is there a specific android game I can try which is has gamepad support?

[@mattdavis9601]

@@RushG - Thank you so much for testing this. You've saved me some combination of $35 US and a bit of aggravation. I don't know of any games with full controller remapping that aren't paid premium apps. I got disappointed with the gacha of so many freemium games and decided to pretty much stick to emulators for most things, streaming - RIP Stadia and hello Xbox GamePass, and certain paid Play Store games. PPSSPP is by far the easiest emulator to set up and it's completely free with no ads. The PSP was a 4 face button system with two triggers and Start + Select; but, PPSSPP allows you to map emulation actions (like Fast Forward and the emulator's Settings menu) as well as minor buttons from the PSP to any unused buttons on your controller, so it's a great way to test controllers. As far as Play Store games that can make use of every button your controller has; "Grid: Autosport" fits the bill, but it's $10 US and takes forever to install. I couldn't ask you to do that. I'm drawing a blank on free games that used more than a handful of controller buttons.

[@XeroLimitGaming]

Check out the Hori Fighting Commander OCTA. It's got 10 buttons as well, a circle D pad, as well as an analog stick. And like I said on the other video, it has software that lets you set each directional input's sensitivity on its own rather than having to have them all set to the same level, and the software also lets you map every button on it. Hell, one time I mapped the directons to the shoulder buttons to a weird hitbox fightpad hybrid. I am not exaggerating about how aweseme it is to set each directions sensitivity. Being able to fine tune each direction is something I think all future ifight pads should have. I no longer accidentally jump when trying to dash because I set my up-left and up-right to lower sensitivity than left and right. I have reduced the amount of accidnetal dps when trying to hadoken and hadoken when trying to dp by increading the down-left and down-right sensitivity. And I don't struggle as much when facintg left because I made the all the directions on the left a bit more sensitive than the ones on the right. It takes a bit to fine tune it to your liking, but it's worth the effort.

[@Zenkai.boost.Kekkei.Genkai]

i had the OCTA and it's garbage, it has a factory flaw with the shoulder button where it will pop off after a while becasue it's held in place by a shitty piece of plastic, i advice people to avoid this controller at all costs

[@preamstrikbiz0]

The other problem with the Octa is the more they keep making new variants of the Tekken 8 edition and street fighter 6 Octa pads , they add a right analog stick and the shoulder buttons and d pad are actually even more worse off then the original ps5 released hardware. Hori needs to make the traditional fighting commanders again

[@varredor]

The Octa is very fragile especially the dpad.

[@miatakiasgr8390]

Shame that its not wireless for Pc

[@Abbelboxe]

Damn. You are quick

[@RushG]

W.F.H. 🎥

[@kosog6584]

That's what she said

[@RushG]

Living upto my name?

[@locked01]

Does it work wired?

[@RushG]

It's a wired only pad

[@spaghettiman4691]

Confirming the XBOX M30 works with the Brook Wingman FGC on PS5. Literally the best pad for fighting games too. Don't get the regular one, only the Xbox edition is compatible with the converter.

[@RushG]

@@spaghettiman4691 appreciate the update on this, thank you 👊

[@RyuHippo]

different size and form for the 6 face buttons makes absolutely no sense

[@TheCongressman1]

please I need one with sticks 😭

[@RushG]

Analogue sticks? Maybe check my Sega Saturn pro controller review. Might be for you (wireless though)

[@derekfcc]

Swap the buttons with the ones from the regular 8Bitdo m30. Thank me later 👍

[@RushG]

The face buttons?

[@derekfcc]

@@RushG yeah, the black and gray ones. The controller looks much nicer in that color scheme. Also, the internals on the new m30 are pretty neat and it would make for a good video to compare the two.

[@paulcoyle5677]

Hopefully it works on ps5

[@Rio..o7..]

maybe with a converter

[@RushG]

Brook Wingman converter should do the trick

[@epickillerxd]

It does with the brook adapter!