8k RAW in a Small Camera (Nikon Z8 Review)

[@MaxRovensky]

Nice to see a new RED camera in such a compact body

[@dillonbrown1454]

It is a VRaptor competitor with better auto focus and IBIS.

[@boxoffisa]

I know it’s a joke but loosely used. Nothing from RED has been put in any Nikon yet. Besides it’s a subsidiary of Nikon now, not the main company.

[@jakilahmoulien9070]

There's no credit to RED at all here

[@GabrielScindian]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@blackicestudios]

Nikon has always been capturing spot on true colors. Most people just never gave them a chance is what, and maybe their marketing wasn’t the best. My old D7000 still produces fantastic 1080 images to this day.

[@joelining]

Used a D750 in school 4 years ago and even that camera produced good images for video. Not sure why people get so butthurt when you tell them you shot good images with nikon...

[@drkevorkian2508]

Their lenses are definitely an acquired taste though.

[@boxoffisa]

That camera make great stills. Been working with it and don’t even bother going manual when it’s a quick situation. It is so good.

[@danielvilliers612]

@Broskisnowski I prefer pleasing to exact. I don't shoot charts for a living.

[@joelining]

@@drkevorkian2508 I've never had any complaints about the quality of nikon glass. I knowfrom an operation standpoint, they're flipped from canon and some other brands, but that doesn't take long to get used to.

[@iggytse]

This is the first in depth Z8 review I’ve seen about the video capabilities. You can see by the Nikon Z8 sales brochure this camera was getting pushed as a video camera that can fit in a gimbal and it’s taken a while for the video guys to come area to this conclusion as Nikon was very late in the game to provide a decent Dslr that could match a Canon 5Diii for video use.

[@JoeLiningToolFilms]

Loved the film trivia with Josh. I love that after all these years, even with more "professionalism", the silly film riot humor hasn't died.

[@CameronGallagher96]

I feel like this is a wedding & one-man-band commercial shooters DREAM camera!

[@ManyWaysFilms]

Exactly

[@joelining]

I've been trying to tell y'all for 5 years, Nikon has some great video for cameras, nice to see them getting the love they deserve. Can't wait to see what features from Red make it into the Nikon mirrorless line!

[@CallMeRabbitzUSVI]

They've only had good video cameras for only 3 years with the introduction on the Z9

[@SooksVI]

@@CallMeRabbitzUSVI The original Z6 was decent and capable of ProRes RAW externally but lacked in other areas. I wouldn't discount it because the image quality was great, but it just doesn't have nearly as much features and capability of the Z8 and Z9.

[@TheLinesEnd]

Nikon cameras have the worst autofocus for video of any camera I’ve ever seen. It’s not even close. It’s beyond terrible. There is no excuse for it

[@waynerm002]

@@TheLinesEnd I would agree the Z6/7 and Z67 II had challenges however, there are other manufacturers that were behind as well and all are now improving. I had issues with my Z6 II and picked up a FX30, later the A7RV, which I then traded for a Z8. In the first few days I saw some issues with the AF but, that was due to me using adapted Sony lens, that all changed when I got native Nikon lens. I'm curious what Nikon cameras you are referring to in your statement? I'll add I tried the Zf and the AF on that one is really snappy, great in video, would have been great if they gave the Z8 8 stops of stabilization like the Zf however, the Z8 is great as is.

[@TheLinesEnd]

@@waynerm002 I gave up on Nikon after I bought a D850, their flagship at the time and it was worse than entry level canon cameras in video autofocus and then I upgraded to the z7ii and it had the EXACT SAME STRUGGLES. I’m not spending 4K on another Nikon until they have more than 2 cameras worthy of shooting video with.

[@waynerm002]

Great video on the Z8! It is getting more and more attention lately by folks who do mainly video. I’ve been posting about the Z8 since before it was launched, after trying out a Z9 and hearing it was going to be a baby Z9. The Z8 has most of the Z9 features with the awesome video features but mainly Nikon photo shooters were getting the Z8. As a content creator that ditched my Z6 II to go to Sony (FX30 than A7R V), due to autofocus issues, I traded the A7R V for the Z8 and have been testing and posting videos about this camera and I am still learning it. Kudos to Nikon for getting these cameras into the hands of more video shooters, I can only imagine what the Z6 III will bring and what the RED purchase will bring to hybrid shooters in the long run.

[@qamstel]

WOW seeing a Nikon camera on this channel is making me tear up! They are really making by waves these days and I love it 😊

[@carrieorsel1340]

I learn so much from your videos. And entertained to boot.

[@filmriot]

Thanks!

[@ciinelog]

@@filmriot Is it possible to share a N Log sample videos shot with Z8 for a test editing?

[@Holtenstein]

I'm excited that Nikon will start making actual cinema lenses. The current lineup is only focus by wire. Also, I would love an SDI out too.

[@highlycreativedigital5472]

Did you know you can adopt emout to the z mount?

[@Holtenstein]

@@highlycreativedigital5472 I know the Z mount has the shortest flange distance of ANY mirrorless camera and therefore can adapt any lens!

[@brandonklemets2958]

the focus by wire is linear and works flawlessly. you can also set custom throws from 90 to 300+ degrees. Nikons current lenses are no joke when it comes to filmmaking. Easy repeatable focus pulls and less breathing than sony or canon. Only downside is iris

[@Holtenstein]

@@brandonklemets2958 Cool. Can you also change the focus direction?

[@waynerm002]

@@Holtenstein Yes, you can.

[@likelyLuna]

This is the first video I ever watch of you guys and I'm BLOWN away by the amount of effort and enthusiasm flowing into this video! Subscribed!! ❤

[@rolandlugo1231]

my dream camera currently, awesome review fellas

[@DamonMoritz]

And embedded timecode. That’s the key. Atomos Blue makes it so easy and because it’s embedded you still get your audio channels through the PCM port.

[@Andrew_Price]

Sounds like Josh could be turbulently displaced on that intro song 🤔

[@yairfunnygaming9476]

Oh i love that 😂

[@m0nztam0nk]

Last Vacation i shot some 8k RAW on the beach just to test it out and the IQ is absolutely ASTOUNDINGLY good...its the best image i ever worked with (a7s3 and a7m4 before werent even close)...ultradetailed yet smooth and cinematic... a dream come true...

[@bernardlanguillier7970]

yes, it is absolutely superb.

[@SooksVI]

I have a question. How much better is Z8/Z9 than the A7S3 when shooting the A7 in its highest quality option? The studio I work at uses A7S3 cameras, but we shoot in the 200M 422 option because our cards aren't fast enough, and I see theres a higher bitrate 600M option (we're getting faster cards). I've been disapointed with the video quality and often use my personal Z8 or Z9 when I can.

[@uroshavalon]

I can really just feel respect for the bunch of weirdos you are :), knowledge, humour and clarity of presenting the topic. One of few creator channels deserving top score. Just continue like this please.

[@andrewdickson1556]

8k raw global shutter in an fx3 style format next? the Nikon/Red combo could produce some seriously interesting options.

[@waynerm002]

I've been saying Nikon needs such a body since purchasing and using a FX30. Here in South East Asia the FX30 can handle the heat due to the fan but the Z8 will throw hot card and camera warning after 20+ minutes (i'm too lazy to stop and restart my talking head video takes) recording. I wouldn't mint a 4-5" articulating (flip forward) screen built in.

[@legendp2011]

I actually prefer the z8 design for filmaking. EVF in my opinion is hugely overlooked by many filmmakers, and I prefer the tilt up screen (flip out screens throw balance off on things like glidecams/steadicams). Although an internal fan like the sony fx3 and pansonic s5iix would be good for hot enviroments

[@waynerm002]

@@legendp2011 If they are unable to do a bright screen, a removable EVF like on the Black Magic Pocket cameras would be fine. I would like to see a screen style like on the A7R V, that does the tilt and flip duties depending on the situation. The Panasonic S1H has a similar design but I don’t think it tilted downwards for overhead shooting.

[@waynerm002]

@Broskisnowski For some photographers they don’t want video in their camera, the talk of heat management is dismissed as video people should get a camcorder and not use a camera style body. Personally, I was hoping last year prior to the Z8 launch that we would get a second body with a fan built in. Fuji and Panasonic were adding cooling solutions and if Nikon wasn’t going to make a body like the Sony FX3/30 or a box style unit like the Panasonic BS1H, then adding one into the Z8 would have been nice.

[@danielvilliers612]

@@waynerm002 You forget you have the z9, which by all account with its bigger body doesn't overheat (Every camera can overheat) in normal conditions. I think until we see what they are going to do with RED, the ultimate Nikon camera. Perhaps shoot 4k with no binding. I have started using the 4.1k raw version lately for some jobs, it is detailed enough for me and the file size are manageable. In fact if the z6 iii comes out with the Rumored specs it might become my main camera. *k for me is too much, I would happily go to 4k, but I don't think we will see a 12 megapixel sensor, so 24 (6k) might be the best compromise.

[@jordanhurd1988]

I’d love to see Nikon release a true hybrid in a few years like the fx3 and the r5c merging aspects of both Nikon and RED.

[@plisskenetic]

The FX3 is literally nothing at all like the R5C since the latter can shoot 8K Raw 60p

[@stavros.fourfourianakis]

Just a question: why are you calling fx3 or r5c as a true hybrid and not true video cameras? I believe Z8, or Sony A series or Canon R5 are more hybrid than the cameras thay you are saying. I would not use fx3 of r5c for photography - so I would hardly call them hybrid cameras. BTW I am a photographer :) :)

[@waynerm002]

The FX3 is a Cinema Camera, not a hybrid. R5 C falls in the same range, while having an EVF. The R5 and Z8 are what most consider hybrids. Panasonic has been doing a pretty good job of integrating fans on their hybrid bodies (S1H and newer S5 II/IIX), I would like to see Nikon do something similar or do a separate cinema body like the FX3/30.

[@zyx0011]

I would love too but hopefully no Canon cripple hammer🤞

[@cinematools]

N-Raw has an issue with blue color clipping pretty early and I'm surprised that it hasn't been fixed in the firmware updates. Still an awesome camera and internal RAW with ProRes are amazing.

[@SooksVI]

I avoid blue light for this reason. I wasn't sure if this was a challenge for other systems.

[@cinematools]

@@SooksVI it's there in N-RAW but not in ProRes. Our LUT fixes the issue in N-RAW and the Nikon official LUT does too, although it looks terrible.

[@lucashillier8618]

Excited to see what nikon can do in the next few years!

[@emircanlas]

I missed warching a camera gesr review from Film Riot. Very entertaining and educational as always!

[@jonhellerphotography]

I love my Nikons and will be shooting a bunch of shorts and a couple feature projects this year with my Z8.

[@MaherAlahdabMD]

Started shooting video with a Nikon D850 then a Z6ii and now the Z8 and enjoyed it every step of the way.

[@bladerealm124]

How does NLOG compare to Sony's SLOG and Canon's CLOG3? What are your top two log profiles you've worked with?

[@TheZodiac]

Definitely my next camera purchase.

[@pkanak]

As always, great review

[@joe.anthony.s]

the signature that nikon holds is the vibrant blue color they can pull off, still doing it today!

[@tbarton00]

05:09 push-in looked like a Spike Lee movie lol

[@MaherAlahdabMD]

When shooting in 4K the sensor speed can be increased to minimize rolling shutter by changing the quality from high to normal.

[@kylelowe]

does that increase aliasing or moire in your Z8?

[@techtrx]

Im trading my r5C for this. Hows the battery life?

[@SooksVI]

You'll want extra batteries or external power for video.

[@techtrx]

@@SooksVI so no difference with r5C

[@SooksVI]

@@techtrx yes, there's a difference. You don't NEED external power to perform any function on the Z8, but to my understanding you can only shoot 8k 60 on the r5C with external power. I also hear that the r5C has no sensor stabilization. You can get a decent amount of filming done on the Z8 battery, but if you're going for all day filming, you'll need spares or external power.

[@larrycoonrod5563]

The hard drive and SsD companies gotta be loving all the sheep thinking they need to film in 8K

[@techtrx]

@@SooksVI recording for more than 30 min? Surely you’ll need extra battery anyways

[@RetroHollywoodStories]

Venturing into storytelling and creative video making recently. VideoGPT quietly became my secret weapon, imparting a sense of professionalism to my content effortlessly.

[@GNGTCG]

I’ve been watching film riot since 2009 :) haven’t missed an episode yet :)

[@filmriot]

That's incredible! Thanks!

[@DJMeku]

Great! can't wait to watch it on my 360p phone

[@MrZerosami2]

So this is what red was up to, nice Glad to see red embracing the slr compact body cams

[@joshuabutlermusic]

I’ve always LOVED Nikon colors but I’ve not had luck with autofocus in video from the cameras I’ve tested.

[@Flamamacue]

I've been on Nikon for about 20 years and nearly left because of how long it took them to realise the importance of video among other things. The Z cameras have actually been good for a while (although the 6/7ii is limited specwise compared to the competition) but people really are starting to realise the Z8/9 are not only not potatoes but one of the best hybrids on the market today. And with the RED acquisition everything in future will benefit too. Nikon = potato boyos are in absolute shambles now

[@bernardlanguillier7970]

The are clearly the best hybrid on the market today. Add to that lenses line up and the ability to adapt Sony FE mount lenses, the potential brought by the Red acquisition and you have something delivering spectacular value. Not to mention their firmware update policy that is far ahead of anybody else.

[@joelelhadj6993]

@@bernardlanguillier7970 Blackmagic is writing...

[@JjackVideo]

Thanks for that c-word intro to blow out my last 2 braincells :)

[@NerdRapper]

I would also love to see all cameras start to ship with internal ND

[@joelelhadj6993]

the only reason I haven't pulled the trigger on one of these since it came out last year is that I might be struggling a little to hire a second one if/when I need it...noone shoots Nikon out here in France I'm on my own. I mean it might be all about to change because people are suddenly aware of Nikon since their recent purchase 🙂

[@wikycreative]

Nous sommes deux 😊

[@ManuBiabiany]

trois :)

[@MattiaMerli]

Great review! Any overheating issue? Audio? How good is the preamp? Which NLE can edit natively the raw files? Thanks

[@bernardlanguillier7970]

Overheating can happen but is mostly ok with Delkin Black cards, pre-amps are decent. I feed mine with a Tascam XLR converter + Sennheiser mic and the quality is very good. Davinci Resolve supports NRAW 12 bits but I expect Red Raw to be added soon to new cameras and possibly through firmware update for existing cameras.

[@boxoffisa]

That guy popping calling me imbecile after picking a wrong answer, honestly if we meet, we will see who is the real man. No referee, no special rules, no katana, no guns, just one on one and we see who is the big guy. 👀

[@owllightmedia5164]

Every time you say the word RAW it makes my wife think of “Raw dog” I tried to explain it to her that it’s a video format but she doesn’t understand and thinks you’re perverted. 😂

[@digiscience3508]

I remember the time that you were posting every two weeks

[@Harnam99]

It’s not even a pure camera, it’s a hybrid camera and still has a-lot of video features which is truly impressive

[@Sinisterbvnny]

The only thing that sucks, to me, with the more articulable screens is there are more points of possible failure. It's nice, but if im spending this much for a camera i don't want to worry about that breaking or the need for an external monitor if it does

[@Ianfilmproductions]

Happy Easter 🐣

[@natedagreat90]

Also a fantastic stills camera a true hybrid

[@TrueURIEL]

LET'S GOOOO!

[@WhySteve]

Have you noticed the "dead pixel" plague? (that's what I'm calling it) A lot of these compact mirrorless pack a big punch, but I've noticed, it comes at the cost of having some white hot pixels that become very aparent when the sensors get hot. I've noticed it in literally every brand of camera in all the work I've edited for people, seen it with creators on KZbin, and unfortunately, also my own camera. BUT, I've never noticed this on any "cinema cameras" except the BMPCC and the Sony FX3.

[@NightWalkerCinema]

What about the lumix s5iix with its internal fans?

[@WhySteve]

Maybe the extra cooling might help with this! I never used one, I'll keep my pixel peeping eye on the ground 👀 😄

[@NightWalkerCinema]

@@WhySteve haha cool

[@tresderan10]

yes but what about colors ? i prefer those of you !!! nikon as an issue with it unfortunatly otherwise would be the perfect camera.. now they bought red so maybe something will change and be awasome

[@tayebamghar07]

what lut did you use in 5:43 ?

[@WahidFayumzadah]

Damn, the blacks are so clean. Did you add noise reduction in post? I find the noise in my shadows / blacks to be horrible at native 800 iso.

[@markshirley01]

Hi does the sensor cover actually work, and keep dust off the sensor

[@joshhardin666]

did you have any difficulties with camera overheat? I'm curious about using this as a studio camera that's more or less always online.

[@WassimJelassi]

didn't try the z8, but z9 runs until the battery dies or runs out of memory without any overheating

[@peternavanac9310]

@@WassimJelassi Same here

[@zerbloo987]

I want one of these so badly 😍

[@ebabich]

Guys, you are the best!

[@JohnWambuaTv]

What a little beast ❤

[@QualityVideoService]

Nikon has stepped up its game.

[@IrfanR]

Amazing..

[@philriot]

I still get inspired by you guys, it’s because of you that I now own 3 c100 mk II.. 😄.. although I have more modern cameras.

[@nathanwilliams4364]

Side note, gotdamn Josh! 🐻🐻🐻🐻

[@tbip2001]

Any idea what canons is planning next? They seemed to stop after the c70

[@BoReynolds]

OMG dude, your brother. I think I'm in love with him and I'm not even gay! Jesus Christ! I'm cryin' laughing Bo

[@datdudeinred]

Love how nikon just slapped red in the face 😂 👏 probably the most sigma thing any company has ever done. 🙌❤️

[@michaellowe8890]

What are the top 3 most enjoyable to grade for you? And will you do as short film with it?

[@filmriot]

Alexa, Canon, Nikon.

[@Hadialdery]

Me seeing this video on 240p : 8k looks solid

[@yixinmei5854]

Did I see blue color blown out in NRAW clips?

[@KashifShhahzad]

@filmriot love, blessings and prayers for you and your family. And whoever is here. 💐 Been following you for the past 10 years. Wanted to ask 1 question and I’ll be gald if you could answer it whichever way you like. So whenever we download any movie it’s size is some mbs but the quality is cutting edge. How do they export/render that huge data in some mbs with great quality. Can you please teach and explain about it. Whenever I export my videos even though they are 20 minutes long and 4k with 3 camera production Podcast thing you already know it’s a lot of data and after exporting in HD I get 5-7GB size of the Podcast and then I compress it to 2-3 GB max to no lose much quality. I hope to hear from you. looking forward. Cheers❤

[@jesusisunstoppable4438]

Alot of it has to do with a video editors ability to compress... Some are better than others And their are programs that only do converting and compression. If I were you, I would try different programs to see which one does the best.

[@catalystJJ]

Can you record in both dual cards at the same time??

[@BillAckerman]

Photos yes. Videos no.

[@GNGTCG]

Omg love this :)

[@bernardlanguillier7970]

Best video quality short of a Red... I mean a Nikon... 🙂

[@cgtung]

Great video, very fun and informative! which program are you using to grade the footage davinci? Thanks for shareing 😊

[@AllisonRoadWest]

Yes 🎉

[@ritchncube9337]

Can you review the Sony ZVE 10🥹

[@NickGapp]

Does it crop the sensor at any resolution or framerate?

[@michaelmalodrums9674]

No

[@Ghost12358]

Can you create pack parasyte? the movie is "Parasyte The Grey" plss create pack of this movie, movie all about alien pls

[@kdon11]

u think this can compete wit the fx3 bro?

[@abdullatifalkandry4774]

What about the battery life ?

[@filmriot]

Pretty good for the size. About 2 hours for me.

[@SooksVI]

It's ok, but you'll want external power for extended shoots. This camera can run hot depending on your shooting style and external power helps. I generally use mine rigged with a Smallrig 99w battery.

[@Soyigna]

i answered every question right!

[@highlycreativedigital5472]

Is there time code?

[@schmiedemesser_Jasmine]

Yes, there is time code (for internal and external recording).

[@GNGTCG]

That opening tho

[@LoganCoble]

I like that RED camera you have there 😏

[@jakilahmoulien9070]

There's nothing from RED in the Z8. The Z8 came out wayy before the acquisition

[@PixPete]

But does it do Open Gate for that true IMAX 1.43:1 type feeling? No. No it doesn't :(

[@plisskenetic]

1:51 - this blabbermouth is so damn overrated "in my opinion"

[@PeterDiBussolo]

That image reminds me of a red cam

[@Animayta]

I GOT TECHNICOLOR RIGHT! I did...I...did you see?... did anyone... did... I uhm.... I'm so alone 😭

[@lakefraser]

Still extremely embarrassing for Nikon even after getting their game up and advertising their video being great (which it is) and even after acquiring Red… they still don’t even have a basic shutter angle option. That’s why I bought into the Lumix S series because they have everything a video maker needs and wants.

[@ludovicavice3496]

If every KZbinr starts to adapt nikon, we all be in a darker era. The image is noisy and nikon ire is really low before clipping, forcing you to underexpose. 😢 I tested it side by side with bmd/pana n sony n had to underexpose the nikon every time to not clip the highlights 😅

[@lawes88]

I instinctively dont like Nikon just because of the shutter soud it had back in the day ;) Great video as always

[@filmriot]

🤣

[@lawes88]

@@filmriot You know i am not wrong tho ;) But this cam looks real good

[@michaelmalodrums9674]

@@lawes88it has no shutter 🤣

[@GhostsGraphics]

@@lawes88 You're definitely wrong the dslr shutter sounds on nikons are heavenly.

[@larrycoonrod5563]

Good luck affording the storage drives and computing power needed for 8K files

[@Kevinsworld1660]

I shot with it 👍🏾

[@ekenedilichukwuekeh4647]

Sony better watch out!!!

[@SoundOfAhhs]

Pop quiz is a detractor.

[@petrub27]

none of the samples are raw, but rec709 8 bit.

[@tayebamghar07]

what?

[@danielvilliers612]

@@tayebamghar07 lol

[@rosumparat]

Over $3K - you call that cheap?

[@danielvilliers612]

In the video camera world it is for these specs. A red V raptor or Burano would be 30k .

[@romanstudiovideotape]

Синий канал по-прежнему страдает и вылазит наружу. Может когда-нибудь в никон завезут нормальные цвета от red. Пока что это все еще фотоаппарат

[@tomn8276]

Zoom in and not no one person is talking how much you lose all lens characteristics...

[@Modgil90]

✌🏽

[@jazyfilms770]

please assist me please, I love movies and I know a little editing, but I lack the equipment, please help me 🙏 please SIR please

[@VariTimo]

None of the footage looks good though. The curve is weird and all the skin tones look off even kind of sickly and gray. I know that this isn’t necessarily a limitation of the cameras but if that’s the base color science it means at least a complete look transform before one could do any narrative work with it. Also unusable amount of rolling shutter.

[@GNGTCG]

Nikon? What camera brand are you talking about… that’s a red camera silly