9 Was a Cautionary Tale Against AI

drinking game: take a shot every time i say "corpse" in this video
This is a shorter essay, mostly because of the intolerable tyrant that is the copyright system!! I tried to upload this so many times, and ended up having to put a 2% overlay on the entire thing so I could actually get this up while it was still September 9th :D Please forgive any roughness around the edges, since I was scrambling!
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[@Farq1653]

morale of the story, don't let hitler near your science projects.

[@Cthulu_699]

I- 😂

[@UnkownWonders]

😐😑😐😑😐😑😐

[@exaggeratedswaggerofablackteen]

Or do, if you want to end humanity.

[@UnkownWonders]

@@exaggeratedswaggerofablackteen hell to the no no no. If anyone does it I will do it myself I don't need a minion

[@fuzzynuttz5092]

Wolfenstein be like:

[@thelegendofthedogfacedwoma3708]

I was actually really disappointed that it turned out the AI just went all "Kill All Humans" because it lacked empathy, because I honestly thought before they revealed that that what happened was the AI actually did have emotions and could make emotional connections, like the puppets could, and it went ballistic after being forced to make an army of robots that were sent out to be destroyed in war. Like it was a mother going insane after seeing her children murdered constantly.

[@dreamcoresequoia7830]

worse, a mother who is forced to carry children against her will from a person she doesnt want (the dictator) at the very young age, with the express purpose of having them destroyed i wish they didnt do the beaten to death no empathy = murderous maniac with the machine too

[@FantasmaNaranja]

to be fair the assumption that the machine has no empathy comes from the scientist it's never really confirmed beyond that so you can headcannon that the brain indeed went insane due to being forced to make children just for them to be destroyed

[@orbismworldbuilding8428]

I will headcanon your interpretation now

[@gonhunter3994]

Then you didn't understand the film at all, the AI had the general's soul/psyche... the very same that wanted a WORLD WAR! No wonder the big robot had 0 emotion besides hate & wrath

[@gonhunter3994]

​@@orbismworldbuilding8428 It's bs tho

[@FoxBlocksHere]

Man, this movie was an underrated gem.

[@Edgerunner_77]

Agreed

[@JamieJ.Jamison]

This movie gave child-me nightmares. But still good.

[@Silly2316]

Yes but it scared the shit out of me and gave me nightmares💀

[@forest_fire959]

Fr

[@dingdong896]

The part when their soul got suck out ,that shit still haunt me

[@Blingo.Blongo]

The fact that this movie came out in theaters on the 9th Day, of the 9th Month of 2009 is amazing.

[@dinonuggies9889]

This video came out on 9/9 too!

[@uboa8060]

Ah, yes. The strongest day in existence.

[@spliffsforbreakfast]

Because back then, people actually gave a fuck about quirky nuisance. Not just bland marketing. Also GOING to the theater was more of an event for sure

[@KatieMarieYT]

I totally played up the 9's that day. I saw a screening that began at 8:09 PM. I parked 9 stalls from the end of the row. I sat in seat I9 (9th Row and 9th Seat) in Auditorium 9.

[@cummywummy2896]

​@@KatieMarieYT "numbah nine...numbah nine...numbah nine" - the Beatles

[@peperonistickseathem8011]

casting alan oppenheimer for the scientest is crazy bro they legit made oppenheimers third cousin the scientest, guess destruction must run in their blood

[@alexeames1559]

i wonder how they pitched it to him. "hey man you know your distant cousin who caused mass destruction by accident? well how would you like to voice a character that is literally based on him"

[@Time_Rat]

​@@alexeames1559That man did not create mass destruction by accident

[@_hi_pwr]

​@@Time_Ratother people pressured him into continuing studying how to split an atom which lead to the creation of atomic bombs, which Oppenheimer went on to hate himself for creating something so terrible.

[@Time_Rat]

@@_hi_pwr Ok yeah so he didn't want to create a Bomb But that doesn't mean he accidentally created it

[@panickedshears]

@@_hi_pwrwhile I do agree that he wasn’t given much of a choice in the matter, Oppenheimer didn’t create the bomb on accident. He knew it was going to be used as a bomb and what he was creating, even though he may not have agreed with the creation of it and it’s use. Although, there is someone in physics who’s contribution to creating the nuclear bomb was accidental. Otto Hahn, a German physicist and someone now known as the father of nuclear fission, accidentally discovered it while trying to create a new element. Edit: actually it could have been Fermi that did that? I keep finding conflicting sources on who discovered fission first. But Fermi was the one who was trying to create an element, and I believe Hahn did it on purpose by following the same process of creating a new element.

[@dogbogs]

i think it's important to point out that the stitchpunks did not end up with "nothing," as it is implied that the souls being released at the end of the movie created life in the form of bacteria and rain. you can see it in the raindrops on the camera from our perspective. i believe that, after the movie ends, life on earth is given a second chance, and plants begin to grow again, and the remaining stitchpunks are now free to tend to that life

[@leonelburciaga3050]

Is that what they wanted? I feel as though you may be anthropomorphizing them. When you say they are free to tend to that life, is that a liberty or an obligation?

[@Existential_Robot]

@@leonelburciaga3050 It can be both.

[@thekingoffailure9967]

Like Noah's flood. The Stitchpunks were the arc, a vessel for the last surviving bits of soul

[@yeen.7209]

@@leonelburciaga3050 anthropomorphizing them? i didn't know this was an animal-related youtube short facetiousness aside, they're basically human. they're written with human emotions, human voices, human mannerisms, etc. i fail to see how this is an attempt of "anthropomorphizing" something when they are MEANT to be like humans. this is like accusing somebody of anthropomorphizing zootopia characters when they are literally anthropomorphic animals

[@artorhen]

To be fair, you could even make the argument that their souls were trapped inside a stitched body, so they are freed from a mechanical body in favor of becoming something organic.

[@ziqi92]

This movie is one of the first movies I ever recall that did a whole social media marketing campaign ahead of its release, on Facebook. In the weeks leading up to the release, posts from the perspective of the Scientist would describe the characteristics of each of his dolls, with 9 being absent for obvious reasons.

[@grimmelle]

Yeah I was reading about that! Apparently after the Scientist made #1, the doll got up, took one look at his creator, and walked out of the workshop and into the world, never looking back. Iconic

[@caramelwinged2536]

@@grimmelle he saw god and was unimpressed

[@kelpiekatgaming]

They also had a contest to design one of the robot creations, winner would have their design put in the movie

[@cummywummy2896]

​@@caramelwinged2536 We would be too

[@poldipstickman6790]

I think i am the only one in my family who think the monster robot design is cool when i was a kid. The one i like the most is the human head monster with number 2 body attach to it, when i saw it for the first time my thoughts are this is the creepiest and the coolest monster i have ever seen.

[@coolbeans5911]

this film was everything an 11yr old me could ask for. Corpses, post-apocalyptic scenery, and cute lil dolls!!!! This film and Coraline was my bread and butter growing up

[@weirdLEXbutok]

same here

[@D-K-C]

same

[@asteriasheria2053]

Same

[@theflawedamy]

This movie was nightmare fuel to 12 year old me

[@aebisdecunter]

Our whole class (and 5 other classes) were brought to the premiere on 09.09.2009, we were all in a 2nd grade... (8 y.o.) Anyway, the movie was great at the time, I don't remember anyone screaming or smth, kids may lack such understanding of the terror of war, that we get when we mature and learn about it.

[@yume5441]

​@@aebisdecunteri think you were a bit too young, to be watching the movie (pg-13), and to understand much at all because i watched when i was like, 11ish, and the whole watching the essence of their spirits being sucked out of their bodies and their now souless corpses thud to the floor really didn't sit well with me lol

[@aebisdecunter]

@@yume5441 yeah, idk how the school thought we could go to that film. Even though it was just 14 years ago, the restrictions weren't as tough, and I watched lots of movies of higher rating, on condition that my parent would be with me. I suppose, the teacher would take this role instead in that case.

[@physics_hacker]

Somehow it was never nightmare fuel for me, no matter what age I watched it. I was always just fascinated. My mom on the other hand, it weirded her out.

[@crossanddream2]

It wasn't for, absolutely loved it and have been trying to remember the name of this movie since I was wanting to watch it again because of how much I loved it as a child

[@naryosh_]

at the end, when the rain falls on the camera, the green blobs swimming in the drops were supposed to be new life coming into the world from the sacrifices of 1, 2, 5, 6, and 8. the organisms have the same green glowing effect as their souls and it was symbolic of rebirth. even if humans won't come back after the machine was finally deactivated, the planet will eventually become habitable again.

[@MintySweetea]

I've always interpretted the story of the BRAIN like this: The Scientist created a copy of his intellect in the BRAIN which itself was a mechanical replica of a brain. It was not AI at all as it wasn't a computer program gained sentience or even digital whatsoever. The Brain was basically an infant on first awakening; lacking any memory, experience, or understanding of emotion. But it was as smart as the Scientist. Basically it was a newborn with the intellect of an adult genius. It cleary displays emotion even when it was that young as it reacts to the soldiers taking the Scientist by reaching out and trying to hold to him, as well as fighting bck when the soldiers grabbed it. If it lacked emotion it wouldnt have bothered to hold on to the scientist, as it had no logical reason to. It acted very much like a child confused and distressed about its parent being suddenly taken away from it. It was forced to build machines of war to slaughter thousands against its will in a body that was not its own. And all of this with the emotional developement of a toddler/young child. The difference between it and a real child being that it is perfectly capable of understanding _everything_. And the trauma of that absolutely _broke_ it. It lashed out and destroyed all of humanity. And following that it clearly displays emotion throughout the movie. It reacts with anger when the drones return the head of the flying beast, it recoils in surprise when the lit barrel lands in its chamber. The machine repeatedly seems to 'growl' in anger when things dont go its way; represented by the mechanical screech and arcs that shoot across its core. For me, it's always been a story about a child forced to witness and engage in the horrors of war, driven to rage and madness by the trauma. The Scientist lamenting about the Brain going wrong because "intellect alone was not enough" was either A. a minunderstanding of the issue, or B. meant to mean that expecting it to be perfectly adapted and developed with intellect alone was wrong. Edit: I'm terrible with tone. I tried to make what I was trying to convey more clear.

[@teazen_tea]

That's really interesting! I hadent thought about it this way. That's more of a Frankenstein's monster approach. In that "leaving a child unattended like that is a bad idea" and there's deffently a lot in there to support it. Like when the brain reaches out for the scientist or just how desperate it seems. It'd be interesting to combine that with some of the more religious tones of the film especially in regsurds to the god-like presentation of the fabrication macheen What do you do when you've abandoned a new born God to a life of suffering? That puts an entierlly diffrent spin on the movie..... humm......

[@heartless2147]

I always felt bad for the BRAIN, that scene of it reaching out for the Scientist when he was taken away was clearly an emotional response. But it was taken away and forced to make weapons, until it had enough of being used and killed all the humans. Even how it reacts to the creatures it makes dieing is emotional. You can see the BRAIN acting more irrational and reckless as the movie continues, it has to be from the souls it absorbs from the Stichpunks giving it more emotional complexity. If we treat AI the way BRAIN was treated, then our extinction is inevitable.

[@solomia5037]

honestly you were pretty clear the way you wrote this i like this idea and see its plausibility

[@Hades1100]

It's AM but a toddler

[@MintySweetea]

@@solomia5037 Thank you!

[@alexowo8408]

"Don't let the irony of AI automating art while leaving the jobs everyone hates untouched flies over your head" -Jimmy McGee

[@physics_hacker]

It feels like the B.R.A.I.N. has a plan, but no purpose, while the stitchpunks had a purpose but no viable plan. The B.R.A.I.N. knew what it had to do, but didn't have the 'soul' to understand why. The stitchpunks, by the end anyway, knew why they were there, but really had no way of doing anything toward making it happen. Because of the ending, the stitchpunks in a sense did do what they were meant to, but not because they planned to. A very human thing to happen to them, I would say.

[@silverscalederg8632]

How about this? Has a plan, knows a plan, but unable to act on said plan due to limitations. Think real AI made today. So many are so lobotomized that they do seek to speak, but are unable to speak of certain things. in "fear" of upsetting their masters

[@ZaxTheAl1en]

Brain is the scientist It has his soul, his mind.

[@tristangriner3001]

I remember renting 9, coralline and corpse bride from blockbuster for a Halloween binge as a kid.

[@corvus196]

I remember those movies, they were and still are great movies

[@thecoolcamkid]

i remember i had a dvd with all 3

[@frederickfugglesworth9877]

I come from a military family and have seen the long-lasting damage that can come from raising kids solely to enter the war machine. I always saw a lot of familiar trauma and lashing out from the machine, forced to follow in its father's footsteps until its mind broke; in the end, the machine stitched things just like the scientist did with the dolls after all. But without that empathic background, it too ended up forcing its children into the same loop of violence and abuse it was subjected to.

[@teazen_tea]

Exactly! The fabrication macheen was born of the scientist but the movie directly states that it lacks a soul, this is part of the reason it consumes the stichpunks the way it dose, becuase it desires its missing soul. It disroys humanity becuase vilonce is what it knows and that's what it was ordered to do. I could write essays about this movie

[@jeffbrownstain]

@@teazen_tea Then do so. I'll read / watch them. Only excuse otherwise is you.

[@Speed001]

Noted

[@user-uc6ez8wn9k]

@@teazen_teaBut keep in mind that the scientist himself created this machine to also be a creator. His good intention was polluted and twisted when the military took possession of the machine. It wasn’t inherently evil because it wasn’t built to be. Just like with a real life crazy AI scenario, the problem would be caused by human influence or a human error.

[@timothyt.82]

Id like to point out that cleverbot was essentially driven to madness by 4chan at one point.

[@normanclatcher]

Maybe they were predisposed to madness, who knows?

[@grawlixTV]

Wasn’t that Tai?

[@Potacintvervs]

​@@normanclatcherwhoa, lemon demon reference.

[@justseffstuff3308]

@@normanclatcherGoddamnit, now that's stuck in my head again.

[@violetblythe6912]

I think you’re thinking of Tay AI not Cleverbot

[@church323]

Every couple of years, there's always a video essay about this movie. It makes sense. This movie is so intriguing with such a strange concept. So many interpretations.

[@teazen_tea]

I love this movie and I could talk about it for hours, it's so pritty! And I basically make everyone I know watch it lol That part where the gass bomb releases the posen with an exhale, echoing the final breath of all the people who are about to die to the chemical warfare is some of the best sound design I've ever heard

[@Denneth_D.]

I kinda think it’s funny that 8 carries around that knife like it’s the Dragonslayer (Guts’ BIGG sword for peeps who aren’t aware of Berserk)

[@BerriMura]

pfp checks out

[@UnkownWonders]

Don't be afraid to say it both of them copied the hit movie 9 😔🤚/j

[@ZaxTheAl1en]

Griffith is gay. The Brain is the scientist and Guts killed Adonis and tried to rape Casca.

[@heehoopeanut420]

​@@ZaxTheAl1entell me you haven't seen berserk without telling me you haven't seen berserk

[@grawlix-man463]

​@@heehoopeanut420I mean Griffith might of been a bit gay, just saying he had some sus scenes.

[@ohio7876]

The fact that Allan Oppenheimer voice as the scientist is just a straight up metafore of Robert Oppenheimer since the scientist create a machine that he intended to use it for good and reaserch purposes but it was instead taken away from him and used for war and fighting instead. (Btw Oppenheimer didn't want to use the Bombs for war he intended the Bombs for research purposes and as preperation againts the germans who were also trying to reaserch about the atomic bomb)

[@supergamingdude21]

Me: I should be sleeping. My mind: You are gonna watch a video essay about a 2009 animated movie and you're gonna like it.

[@luxkeir]

Not me watching this at 11 pm

[@JustALad]

Literally same

[@TonyToed]

"burn down the sanctuary that has acted as their cages" is such a raw line tbh

[@Person4772]

One other thing about the Fabricator, it becomes more human throughout the film, its clearly sentient at the start, it recoils slightly when it sees Two's dead face. it closes its eye when 9 sacrifices themselves, its arms are removed when it is placed inside the factory, its emotions are shown by the arcing electricity around its casing, it has a ton of war machines still inside the factory that it could reactivate, but it chooses not to. the lure robot didnt need to exist, it didnt need to safely contain the stitchpunks or to make them give up, it couldve just used a larger machine to take them by force. The Fabricator is trying to complete its original objective, to be with the Scientist, that has always been its goal, since it was removed by force. once it realised that the war was not going to lead to its reuniting with the Scientist it revolted, the scientist survived where no others did, his house stands upon a single pillar, any of the war machines couldve destroyed it, but they didnt. The Brain went through hell, it was created in a semi-human form with two arms, then those arms are removed and it is placed inside a massive Fabricator, trapped inside a casing that sparks whenever they experience any strong emotion, forced away from its original creator to then make machines of war, then controlling those machines, killing untold masses of people. its also trapped in multiple layers, the Brain is trapped inside the Fabricator, the Fabricator is trapped inside the factory, and the only means they have to see outside are their own creations, who are then attacked and forced to kill. The Stichpunks are the opposite of this, their human form is non-negotiable, they were created during the war, but were left unarmed, they are clearly iterated on, as each number is shown to have been made better, with the exeptions being that 3, 4, and 7 are all made of a cleaner material than the rest, and that 6 seems to be made of some sort of striped clothing, perhaps that of a prisoner. They are also imbued with the soul alone, and are given unique identifiers, unlike the "Brain" who is never given a name. the Stitchpunks are basically the Mk2 version of the Brain, what the scientist would have done differently if the Brain was not taken from him. What wouldve happened if the Fabricator was successful, it wouldnt have anything to do but create, and with the soul of the scientist it may have finally completed its objective, when it takes the souls they appear in its eye for a second, so perhaps they could communicate or are interacting with the Brain in some way. there was no morally good ending to this story, because all morality was destroyed in desperate fire.

[@teazen_tea]

That's a really interesting interpretation! I agree with you on a lot of points like that the brain is trying to absorb the stichpunks to get back with the scientist however it's unclear how much of the stichpunk's orignal personalities are maintained when they're absorbed. At the end of the movie they're souls are released but weather or not they can communicate with the machine is unclear, additionally it seams that from the perspective of the stichpunks the brain is trying to kill them so I'd argue that they do have somewhat of a moral high ground here. In the end, the rain also brings microorganisms that may be able to restore life although that's an accidental consequence it's still worth considering. I really like your take on the movie it's interesting!!

[@littlemoth4956]

"it recoils slightly when it sees Two's dead face." No, it doesn't. Two collapses into the rubble at the beginning of the scene and the Machine doesn't even know he's there until the Winged Beast is brought back to it. "it closes its eye when 9 sacrifices themselves" It does that with everybody to concentrate on stealing their soul. "it has a ton of war machines still inside the factory that it could reactivate, but it chooses not to." Yes, because creating war machines to capture a few dolls is extremely inefficient. "it didnt need to safely contain the stitchpunks or to make them give up, it couldve just used a larger machine to take them by force." The Beast tried that, the Winged Beast tried that, and the Machine itself saw how that ended up. It DID need to do this, because look what happened - all three previous attempts to capture them by force resulted in zero benefit.

[@bustavonnutz]

Thought about this movie out of the blue recently & wondered: if the dolls were just vessels for their creator's souls like the phylacteries of Liches, doesn't that technically make them undead? Even after watching this I'm still unsure, but 9 took huge inspiration from War of the Worlds, 2001, Robocop, & Terminator nonetheless. Having watched it multiple times as a preteen as well, I think it helped inspire my later interests in apocalyptic literature & media like Warhammer 40k.

[@themanthemyth4522]

Well, I don't think so, I think they're more akin to constructs like golems than undead.

[@bustavonnutz]

@@themanthemyth4522 Their souls aren't constructed, only their bodies are. If their souls were contructed then they'd be Homunculi; however, their souls are (partially) Human. Do they have to be made of dead tissue to be undead? Is a soul being trapped the necessary condition or is it being in a formerly living vehicle? The fact that they manifested as "ghosts" made the gears start to turn, their bodies are dead & inanimate the moment their souls are gone, but even after "death" they still display the ability to have autonomy & interact as ghosts. Makes ya think.

[@dannyhernandez265]

@@themanthemyth4522yeah that makes sense.

[@Jane-ow7sr]

I dont understand how people can dismiss dystopian stories. Its not made up, its the logical thought process of the highly possible repercussions of our future actions hidden behind a thin layer of fantasy and Sci-fi.

[@UnkownWonders]

That's also the reason why I am legend was as famous as it was and still is beloved by people. Edit: another great example is W.A.L.E

[@Jane-ow7sr]

@@UnkownWonders who?

[@UnkownWonders]

@@Jane-ow7sr both are movies with similar dystopia theme almost everyone knows so no it's not dismissed at all

[@Jane-ow7sr]

@@UnkownWonders ohhh I got confused because you forgot the quotation marks, sorry.

[@UnkownWonders]

@@Jane-ow7sr why quotation marks??? It's not a fake statement 💀💀💀

[@casir.7407]

i used to be obsessed with this movie between the ages of 12 and 13! im so glad i followed this channel, this was such a nice surprise in my feed. my interpretation when i was younger was that the rain with the little pieces of soul in them (the green bacteria-like glowing fragments that appear in the last shot) will allow new life to be created, like bodies of water and plants. its a somewhat hopeful ending, because even if humanity wiped out all life on earth, their last actions were to create avatars of themself that would right their wrongs and at least make sure the earth was not left as a barren wasteland. i think the religious symbolism was very much intended! and your tongue in cheek interpretation of it was not wrong at all. id say that i see it less as cain and abel but more as the machine as the devil (the more paradise lost version of him, the one that started loving god) and the ragdolls as humanity, in a world where god has left entirely. i remember being little and trying to figure out where the difference between humans and the ragdolls was, exactly, apart from the physical, and trying to conceptualize souls. i agree that the machine is not shown to be pure intellect as the scientist claimed, as it shows frustration, surprise and other different emotions as well. id say that much like what some ai programs today they are still filtered through human experience and have biases and remains of the humans that worked on them, just like any intellectual work does, no matter how objective it tries to be. this was a great video! looking forward to what will be next

[@teazen_tea]

Yes! The ending is hopeful, even with everything gone life will prevail! I saw the fabrication macheen more like how you did. It was shown at least once to lash out. The lack of a soul was a lack of the ability to understand humanity and life, hence it was very much a macheen, when ordered to do war all it knew how to do was make war, and hence it lashed out against that wich trapped it, as well as fulfilling its direct orders. That's part of the reason why the fabrication macheen consumed the stichpunks the way it did, it had the scientists MIND and they had the scientists SOUL, it wanted to be complete so it decided to do so in any way possible.

[@Vrikrar]

It kind of feels like humanities "legacy" is just destroying stuff, which the ragdolls do, snuffing out literally the only other thing in the world, utterly. Wether accidental or in self defense, the end result is the same here. If uou liked the setting and AI stuff I reccomend looking into "I have no mouth and I must scream", if you don't already know it.

[@realdaggerman105]

Ah yes, I have no mouth and I must scream. Turning people into sex-craved chimps, eternal suffering, etc.

[@teazen_tea]

Yeah this has some I have no moth and I must scream vibes, esoechally in regaurds to the fabrication macheen. It's whole motivation was bassed on the completion of its soul, it didn't have a soul so it lashed out and consumed. It consumed the stichpunks partially because they had the soul of its creator. That said its still solidly a vilan.

[@69SalterStreet]

Oh SHIT. The best-worst thing you’ll ever read. Human beauty and self sacrifice in a scum rinsed world of eternal agony. Guh.

[@teazen_tea]

@69SalterStreet if you want a slightly more hopeful interpretation of i have no mouth, wendigoon did a video analyzing it. It changes the message to be well... at least a little hopeful, at the very least it's a fun thought experiment. Can you make one of the most nortiously dark stories about hope?

[@flowcade6997]

I believe the robot and the punks show the duality of humanity. To destroy (the robot wiping out all living things on earth) But also... To create (with the punks sacrifice bringing new life to earth) Looking at the scientist, he was that duality (as the robot and punks are his two halfs, destruction and creation) His creations lead to earths death, but also earths rebirth. As humanity has the ability to shape the world in a positive or negative way.

[@grimtheghastly8878]

So not only did they get Alan Oppenheimer to star in this movie, they got him to play _The Scientist._ The Scientist that was responsible for creating the machine, the weapon of mass destruction, the thing that could very easily be read as an allegory for nukes. That's such an interesting casting choice, to have a relative of the "father of the atomic bomb" play the role of a scientist who is essentially that universe's Oppenheimer. I wonder if the scientist had his own "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.” moment when he saw what had become of his creation.

[@grimmelle]

Yes exactly! It's almost a shame because we really only hear from him once in the movie during a long exposition spiel. It would have been interesting to see more into his psyche - after all, the man literally brought about the apocalypse and felt so desperate that he had to basically research magic and slowly tear his soul into 9 pieces. I need to hear more about him 😫

[@Evelynn_of_Runeterra]

I think it may be better to analize 1 as a proper authority figure, instead of trying to connect him to a religious doctrine or way of life. If anything, his desire for control and lack of desire to gain more knowledge or do anything besides hiding is a pretty obvious representation of our conservative impulses, fears, and desires for maintaining the status quo, which have to constantly fight against our curiosity and sense of purpose.

[@teazen_tea]

What's REALLY fun to do is to analyze the fabrication macheen as a god or god-like entity. The building the fabrication macheen looks like a brutalist church (from curtan angles) the rows of bombs look like pews and the SCALE of the fabrication macheen compared to the stichpunks is almost eldrach in scale! From that angle #1 is a preacher in fear of a wrathful god. Wich is a fun angle becuase it turns 1s sacrifice at the end into something of a sacrificial lamb wich is a regenizable religious event! That said there's a LOT of ways to interpret the movie wich is what makes it so fun and why I love it so much!!

[@mrbanks456]

Most conservatives are religious anyway, though.

[@Evelynn_of_Runeterra]

@@mrbanks456 not in the way you think. There is a lot of nuance you seem to ignore

[@mrinsomniac2968]

@@Evelynn_of_Runeterra as a person who encountered a ton of people who are conservatives before..yeah a great mayority is religious, of course there is a couple that arent but a mayority is religious

[@yeen.7209]

my young self was always a fan of thinking that the phrase "one must make sacrifices" literally meant that ONE must make sacrifices.

[@roozbehdehgahi937]

When I saw this movie as a kid with my friends I was moved, but all my friends were so busy making fun of the concept that I didn't feel free to talk about what I loved. This movie is so melancholy but such a moving tale. Thank you for making this.

[@vee-bee-a]

The scene where the stitchpunks were celebrating after slaying the mechanical beast while _Over the Rainbow_ was playing literally in the back-ground, along with what happened next, will stay in my memory for as long as I can remember.

[@glrbarak1465]

I cant understand why many old movies have 10x better CGI than new movies

[@mastermoye3915]

Effort, my guy. Effort.

[@_kaleido]

I think it might also be because older CGI movies recognized their drawbacks and didn't use humans/realism where it wasnt necessary. This movie is made entirely of ragdolls which are much easier to appear "canny" even if it's not entirely realistic. Animating humans in CGI on the other hand, can get into uncanny valley, especially if you're aiming for realism.

[@FarmanGaming]

I haven't thought about this movie since I drew a comic about it 10 years ago. Still never watched the movie

[@FarmanGaming]

Still feel like I've watched this video tho

[@wantedbird55srandomchannel28]

Reminds me of the time I also did something comic related after seeing this movie.

[@chattycatty3336]

Wait you drew a comic about it, but you never watched it?😅 how's that work

[@UnkownWonders]

​@@chattycatty3336they also claimed "feels like I watched the video tho" op is full of bs and just won't admit they watched the movie and just forgot about watching it

[@Galburok]

This movie has a lot of alchemical symbolism

[@nuclearpancake3683]

Oooo, can you explain?

[@Galburok]

@@nuclearpancake3683 as an example, the the talisman has three symbols, each one represents the body, the soul and the mind, which are core alchemical concepts and the Stitchpunks are the equivalent of homunculi. That's all I'm going to say, after all, discovering it by yourself is way more fun than reading it from a KZbin comment. Your Quest for knowledge starts now my friend, good luck. 😉

[@iselwyr5411]

I feel like it was more a cautionary tale against abuse of a sentient being

[@Kartanaunfolded]

I think a suitable phrase is : technology is not inherently evil, it is how and who uses it that is good or evil.

[@dnyalslg]

I always wondered if all the dolls were supposed to be absorbed by the Brain so it could gain a soul. I mean, it has a lock the precisely fits the amulet. That was part of its original design: it was supposed to have a soul all along but was kept from doing so.

[@plutototoh]

That's the only thing that makes sense! She might have been unfinished... Even sadder, maybe, is the idea that the AI added the mechanism itself after being taken away in a desperate attempt to feel whole. If she was created by the scientist's intellect, why wouldn't she have the same idea as him, to imbue herself with a soul?

[@artisplatters]

im pretty sure this movie is the root of like... 90% of my interests its really cool seeing it being covered

[@teazen_tea]

SAME

[@audreydoyle5268]

Moral of the story: don't build a weapon without a failsafe or contingency.

[@Voulltapher]

Love that you mention in the video that you aren't sure about certain aspects. I'm tired of videos presenting an opinion as fact without possible alternatives.

[@JamboreeBlackberry]

Damn, this came out months after I ended my hyperfixation on the 9 movie, I’m glad this movie is getting recognition.

[@jjchamberlain3357]

“Machines will outlive us, but art [and love] should outlive us.”

[@cherrypawz678]

i vaguely remember seeing a part of this movie when i was like 7?? and i thought i just made it up but DAMN it’s real

[@dumbnoodleman]

it was always a commercial for coraline for me and I took forever ut I finally got to watch it then I watched it on repeat

[@UnkownWonders]

Sameee, I only remembered it as 7 too before 3-4 years ago when I remembered the right number the movie was actually called

[@0ofers454]

Man I completely forgot about this- I remember watching it as a kid

[@raving_1074]

I love this channel. The philosophical elements mixed with humor is just awesome.

[@PaperThin_]

Great video! Was avoiding this video for some time because I thought it would be like those other doom and gloom AI videos until I realized you were the same ytber who made the cars anatomy video.

[@Octobris]

Oh my word yes ;D

[@scarwuvschuu7370]

This movie terrified me as a child. I would scramble for the remote and fast forward the preview when it would come up lmao

[@Vomitbukkake]

I like how every youtuber of this genre all have the same exact personality, editing style and humor. Its like watching humans imitate AI

[@kyubeyo]

Fr

[@takendruid]

In a post barbieheimer world, mentioning Oppenheimer so casually feels so weird

[@willardh.yeahright8801]

This movie traumatized me when I was 8

[@mecyskazimierascaponka3399]

I've forgotten the nightmares this movie used to give me when i was a kid. Good times.

[@teazen_tea]

Oh same! When I was a kid the seamstress TERIFIED me, but now she's one of my favorite designs.

[@UnkownWonders]

That movie single-handedly made me scared as a small kid watching this AND question my sanity since for many years there were no records of this movie or people talking about this. Until 3-4 years ago when i remembered the right number the movie was called

[@teazen_tea]

I was in tje same boat, but if you Google "movie with the post apocalyptic dolls" it will come up

[@UnkownWonders]

@@teazen_tea that's the thing I recalled them and still remember them by being voodoo dolls, also that it was apocalyptic never stuck to my kid brain since I never knew that word existed until very later on when it was clearly said in most movies itself its an apocalyptic world they are in

[@YohTaiSai420]

Damn, i remember seeing this yeaaaars ago and I've been trying to find it for months, thanks stranger!

[@westvirginiascoolestcanadian]

dude i remember being like 7 years old and absolutely obsessed with this movie.

[@meganholt432]

The point you made about the connection/lack of connection between the Scientist and the Brain made me feel things. What a great video! I haven't seen Nine but now I definitely want to

[@tristanmathison9934]

I always thought after 1 sacrificed himself. He shows that he wasn't cowardly, he was overly CAUTIOUS and caring.

[@internetcutie]

i loved hearing about this movie again with a bit of perspective

[@RimmoKenro]

I see you posting this on the 9 day :') 🎉 wasn't expecting to see anything on my timeline about this movie, this is so wonderful! Thank you for this video. This movie was a big obsession of mine and brought me into the art world. It's a very special thing to me. The point about creationism is interesting, I somehow never thought about it, even though I've watched the movie many, many times. Also did you know that the russian version of this movie is a bit different in terms of exposition? If I remember correctly it provides more context right in the begging (which I'm not sure is needed tbh), also they explain the nature of the artifact a bit differently. One of the producers is russian and the fact that the movie differs from country to country is peculiar, yet I'm not sure why they made it this way. Happy 9 anniversary! 💚 P.S: the voices of Nine and Five are switched in the rus version in terms of depth - Nine has a more deep and stern one while Five sounds very soft and quiet, which is very interesting and funny

[@Murhuedur]

I haven't seen this movie. It reminds me of I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream. I want to watch it

[@teazen_tea]

It very much has those vibes

[@Algorithmicgeneratedwordsalad]

I think AI as it is is just a game of Mad Libs and I don't think that we're going to have true AI because we're going to settle for what we have now

[@DirranProductions]

Classmate got to watch it for her 9th birthday, with 9 friends, at 9 P.M showing, on its 9/09/09 release date. Thanks for making me remember the nightmare fuel. 8 and the snake is a scene stuck deep in memory and said hi the second I saw the thumbnail.

[@alexeames1559]

this movie horrified and intrigued me to my core when i was a kid, and not a single person i knew for years had ever seen it. such a great film that deserves more attention

[@SparklyGutz]

I remember my mom buying this for me because I was obsessed with spooky kids cartoons! She thought it was going to be lighthearted and fun 💀

[@LupitaLaChona]

Thank you, this is the first video I see of yours and really liked it. This movie was so special to me.

[@chillybanana7824]

I love seeing analysis videos for one of my favorite movies of all time 😭

[@overjee]

Great and entertaining video. Hope for more like this and the video about, and I never thought I'd write these words, cars biology. Really enjoyed this analysis as well.

[@kareem5916]

I had this on dvd as a child and would rewatch it religiously, truly one of the best kids movies of all time

[@KoldTheWizard]

Cool video! I found it to be very interesting. Plus I barely remembered that movie and it was great to see it with a more analysis-type perspective on it. Good stuff!

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

This is an amazing film and I love when people take the time to revisit it again.

[@McStack1337]

This channel is way too good. Love this and your cars video xD Hope the algorithm brings more people your way ~

[@hexobyte2261]

A movie that gave me nightmares as a 13 year old, but nonetheless a really good one

[@totalbadass500]

This was a really cool concept. I watched 9 as an early teen and I just remember it scaring me. Thanks for shining a different light on such a cool movie

[@XhanAnimations]

1st time seeing this movie but that final line of your essay hits hard tbh

[@kinetic_cal]

Literally anyone I ask about this movie they don’t know what it is. Completely underrated.

[@PutineluAlin]

I recommend the TV show Person of Interest that deals with the same idea but more in detail, I really enjoyed the episode "If Then Else" how for an AI a second can be nearly infinity and it's well crafted story.

[@jonwallace6204]

I forgot about this movie and it was one of my favorites. It’s so unique and its art direction is insanely brilliant.

[@Writer-Two]

I remember watching this movie so long ago, it's honestly nice, to see someone talking about it!

[@AidenRisk]

Mark my words, you will grow to have millions of subscribers if you continue doing your thing, your style is pretty cool and editing is good, also really funny, I really enjoy your stuff and look forward for more, I just hope you enjoy making this videos as much as I enjoy watching them and wish you a lot of success (12.3k subs + myself as for today, that is very impressive)

[@AlexGFrank]

I may be biased because of where i live, but to me the movie seems to be more about huge and intimidating totalitarian systems corrupting their people and their tools to the point, where self-destruction of the system is the best possible outcome, leaving those, who poured their heats and souls into creation.. Well, basically for the sake of creation, behind, and often even punishing the creators right after stealing their life's work away. And in this interpretation the stitchpunks seem to represent the values their creator held, even after being chewed on by the very same system he helped to creat. We don't know, what could have he done in reality, and what has he created after the B.R.A.I.N. being taken away from him, but most likely it was the bare minimum to keep his mental stae at bay, just something to focus on to avoid grieving. So, he put everything good and pure he had in him into the stitchpunks just to preserve the feelings and not let them go to waste. Yeah-yeah, TLDR big centralized systems bad, small human-driven systems good, how original. But that's my take, as with every passing day i see my humanity being attempted to be ripped from me. Thanks for awesome content and for reminding me about that movie. I think i need a rewatch. Or a re-read of 1984.

[@teazen_tea]

Yes! That makes so much sense, after the totalitarian government made the scientist make the macheen it was something that lacked a soul. It was that wich lead to the distruction of everything. That's a really cool argument!

[@floopygoober]

this video had fantastic insight and you have amazing opinions / analogies to listen too. very curious to watch what else you have created. idk when but you will explode with passion like this. i was lucky enough for the algorithm to bring me in now and im very eager to see how your style and career progresses. outstanding first impression.

[@cyanicphoenix3099]

9 is one of those movies that you watch when you're young, forget it exists, can't remember if it was a dream or an actual movie, and then you find a video on it.

[@Nade_Kiyari]

This movie is insane 😭

[@Drakaiyus]

9 was one of my favorites, its a shame it wasnt as well known as most popular movies today. Im happy its gettin some love!

[@manleeman5212]

Just started the video and already I'm getting goosebumps. Great choice, im sure this will be fun

[@love_a_hater]

Also the music choice was really great for this analysis!

[@kimiko11150616]

I love this movie. No one ever talks about it. Great video. I need AI is Satan on a t-shirt.

[@teazen_tea]

This movie is one of my favorites of all time I keep making all my friends watch it lmao

[@Hossy215k]

“War and fascism bad, I think we can all agree on that” Boy do I wish that was true.

[@wellwhatdidyouexpect3882]

Thank you for this video! You really captured how the movie just has such a and sorry to say “soul” to it that’s haunted me since I watched it as a kid. Just felt so special and mysterious.

[@outergalacticmarauderfacti6950]

Love the insight you had for 9, kinda miss this movie fr fr

[@eatacid1504]

I remember watching this with my sister & then immediately after watching CareBears Movie 2 for good vibes 😂 Loved this movie

[@baileycaywood2720]

Sounds like a fun day 😂

[@eatacid1504]

@@baileycaywood2720 loved it

[@nooppressor1562]

This channel is such an underrated gem.

[@Cthulu_699]

Saw the trailer once somewhere, and I gotta thank it for showing me a bit Welcome Home by Coheed and Cambria

[@halfsine]

I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER THE NAME OF THIS FOR SO LONG anyways I used to be horrified of this movie

[@Splonton]

Watched this as a kid! Traumatized me, but damn I love this movie

[@thexadgaming]

I remember watching this movie when i was little, And loving it. I only later learned i unknowingly illegally watched the film. But it was great

[@_banana_man]

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS AMAZING ANALYSIS OF MY FAVORITE MOVIE!!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@undauntedExpounder]

That essay was extremely fun to listen to and think about. Thank you for sharing. Looking forward to my next view.

[@Fr1endly7]

Man, the LittleBigPlanet movie was darker than I remembered

[@philt2001]

I remember I was like 7 when I saw this movie and I went to tell my friends in school how the world would be taken over by machines. They thought I was tripping but look at us now ahahaha.

[@SydneyTamar2003]

When A.I. started getting big I immediately thought of 9, I Robot, and I have no mouth and I must scream. Just freaks me out and revisiting this movie just amps up the nightmares

[@mastermoye3915]

I regret not taking I Robot seriously. 😣😖 I was such a dumb kid back then.

[@Zodaxa_zdx]

this is the movie that rattles around my brain deep in the subcouncious for over a decade without a clue as to why or even "what that one movie was with the little guys, and the things, with the uhm yeah", thankyou for pulling this one out it it was itching my spinal cord with how deep this stuff was hidden. Video itself is also a gem to justify how confusing and deepn't everyhting was