9800X3D Build REQUIRES THIS!

[@skorpysk]

the 4 things: Bios update, Not having to upgrade RAM, A new bios feature that helps with Overclocking of the RAM and CPU

[@inked-96]

'Here's 4 things'... States 3 😂😂😂💀💀.

[@korsame]

great- things everyone already knew... thanks for saving me from having to watch the full yapping

[@spinnetti]

This is weird.... Its like its lip synched

[@FireCestina1200]

What do you really need: Updating BIOS to latest version What is optional: All thing in the video.

[@jeffgalpin3153]

Amd did think of putting the stack on the bottom, they just couldn't do that with the layout of the previous chips, they designed this gen with that in mind so they could move it down.

[@TKanal3]

I heard they couldnt afford it before

[@Gattberserk]

​@@TKanal3 No it wasnt, when they decide to add in V-cache it is just too late into development stage that it will be extremely costly and delayed launches if they do that, so they do it during Zen 5 when it was design to be revamp ground up.

[@Beldan4]

Ya, I think gamers nexus mentioned this. Like it was planned back in 2019 but the fabs were already locked in at that point. (don't quote me on this)

[@Gattberserk]

@@Beldan4 i cant imagine the revamp for their IOD chip for Zen 6 with 3nm. Its gonna be lit.

[@jessiethedude]

I can’t wait to use this to play Diablo 2

[@Hey1234Hey]

What a waste of high tech sand 😢

[@eggman2543]

@@Hey1234Hey waste ? lmao . have you played MMORPG

[@stevennocella5805]

Same

[@jessiethedude]

@@stevennocella5805 🙌🙌

[@majafarkhani87]

Also same, plus PoE2 when it comes out

[@Orunitor]

the constant arm flailing as the person is flapping his lips, like what are you doing? your just meant to talk, not signal a plane landing.. and the atrocious voice over makes this so hard to watch.

[@dante19890]

he is miming

[@SaschaRobitzki]

Why do your videos always look like a voiceover?

[@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep]

The 4 things it requires is 1. Thermal Paste 2. tweezers 3. screwdriver 4. Thermal Paste

[@gauravrai2736]

Don't forget a swiss knife that hopefully has a screwdriver.

[@richardbenke9687]

LOL

[@brandonchappell1535]

Please dont tell me your putting thermal paste on both sides of the cpu, sweet baby jeebus😂

[@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep]

@@brandonchappell1535 Makes the best sandwich.

[@SalvageCitizen]

You used to speak Irish, not AI voice.

[@nukedathlonman]

I'm onboard the Hype-train now - love the improvements all around, esp. in the improvements on the non-gaming side that the X3D chips of past never quite boosted.

[@kathrynck]

It's cuz the gains for zen 5 X3D are almost entirely from moving the cache layer, to allow for better thermals. So the gains are scaling right off of the higher clocks, cuz better heat dissipation. And clock speed was where older X3D's hit a slowdown, again, due to thermals. But yeah, it removes a lot of indecision for mixed-use buyers. 9800X3D should actually pace with the 9700X in compute tasks.

[@CrackaSlapYa]

4:00 gotta keep in mind that in addition to the 1-2ns latency improvement running 8000MT/S will also give much higher bandwidth , read/write, etc. Personally gonna just bin 3 of them and keep whichever one can do 6400c30 in 1:1 and call it a day.

[@simondv]

finally a proper new CPU

[@Suzukii-Krypto]

I can't wait to use this to play Pong.😅

[@DeadlyKiller54]

This chip is why i got 6000MHz Ram at CL30, and a X670 MB. Currently rocking a 7500F, but when i get a chance, imma buy the 9800X3D.

[@Hullbreachdetected]

I believe g.skill makes 6000MHz DDR5 @ CL28!

[@milostokar4007]

can i ask?asus eog strix b650 e-e wil work with this??everyony is talkin o ly about x670 mbds

[@lucienlachence]

Running on g.skill cl32 @6000

[@lucienlachence]

​@@milostokar4007my board b650 msi gaming plus wirfi with 64 gb g.skill trident s5 cl32-38-38-96

[@ESPSJ]

@DeadlyKiller54 That's a good idea, your 7500f will last until next generation honestly unless you're really trying to get high fps etc. But the 9800x3d will get similar sales that the 7800x3d did eventually, that's when it would be a good idea to grab one.

[@kistebecks6266]

his sign language is off, way too much paddling with the arms

[@Gattberserk]

AMD did think of that in the first place, but it wasnt feasible to change the structure when they are already at Zen 3 development. They have to wait till Zen 5 where the entire CPU architecture was modified from ground up then only they can place the CPU on top of the V cache.

[@alpersan]

thank you bud, really helpful video

[@leon7891]

Again, 4:17, no issues with combo 9800x3d + 6000 mhz DDR5 ? Msi says "The partial DDR5 memory module will remain running at 4800MT/s because of the architecture design by the Ryzen 9000 series CPU" on its website

[@kingzyjhiepelongco3593]

For Additional Performance, 8GHZ RAM speeds are recommended

[@bassenclips6950]

Bought 2 kits of G.Skill 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 6000MHz CL30 Trident Z5 Neo black RGB AMD Expo for my strix x870-f with a 9800x3d. And enabling Expo stalls it.

[@bassenclips6950]

It won't boot at all. And yes the ram is supported according to the manufacturer website.

[@2438lor]

will a 4070 super be alright for the 9800x3d or do I need a higher one.

[@prodbyL1TK3Y]

as a beginner in pc building with gaming and streaming in mind, would you recommend the new R7 9800X3D or just get a R9 for more cores and threads ? (if R9 which one ?)

[@mrlemondaddy]

If you need the cores and not in a hurry, you can just wait for the 7900x3d/7950x3d. If they will have the 3D V-cache on both CCDs unlike the current gen, they might even beat the 9800x3d.

[@Hullbreachdetected]

​@mrlemondaddy yeah that's something I've not heard about, whether Zen5 layout will be identical to Zen4, because if so, only 9800x3d have all cores addressed to v-cache, and other Zen5 CPU will have to cross link their cores in the process which will cause them to be inferior in gaming perspective.

[@ZackSNetwork]

I would recommend the 9950x instead.

[@mrlemondaddy]

@@HullbreachdetectedI agree. I do hope they change it so that both CCDs will have direct contact with the 3D V-cache. Personally, I'd wait until CES 2025 for any news about the 12 and 16 core X3Ds then decide from there unless you want to build now.

[@Unstator]

or wait for the 9850x3d which will have the best of both worlds, i have the 7950x3d and it does it all. Can game and stream with no lag.

[@khoabui7766]

5800X3D,7800X3D AND 9800X3D Which's the first which one is the second gen.?

[@anthonywilson-s9b]

good luck finding one they're sold out everywhere

[@spawnandbatman6975]

How do you update the bios if you don’t have a spare amd cpu? I’ve always been confused how to update the bios

[@wrusst]

Many new boards can update a bios with a usb stick and no cpu

[@DB-47]

3:39 Here it fully depends on silicon lottery if you can do 6400 MT/s in DIV1 mode. Mine 7950X could not do that, after it failed and I got later 7700, this one can do 6400 MT/s with ease. Most crucial is how much VSoC you need to get it stable. If you cannot stabilise 6400 MT/s with 1300 mV or less VSoC, your chip will not do 6400 MT/s DIV1 mode, period. While mine 7950X needed 1155 mV SoC for 6000 MT/s, 7700 needed just 1030 mV SoC for same speed. So basically if you can get 6000 MT/s stable at 1100 mV or less, you have chance to run 6400 MT/s stable

[@Hullbreachdetected]

I don't see the point to bother when you can get either 6000MHz @ CL28, or 8000MHz @ CL38

[@DB-47]

@ 8000 MT/s is more prone for electromagnetic interference on motherboards and can be harder to test stability. If stable it is faster than 6400 MT/s DIV1 mode, however you really need good motherboard for that

[@Imbolize1]

Does regular b650 would be good with 9800x3d? Why the ppl only talking about x670?

[@jadusiv]

You’re moving them hands too much

[@GamerMeld]

I know. I've got to stop that lol.

[@jens4554]

I like them hands moving. More fun than him just standing there doing nothing... 🙄

[@macimjau4432]

Dont worry its the way you are , thaths why you are "YOU"dont change for anybody!

[@helpfulfox2789]

honestly a psychotic critique

[@sixdegrees6434]

Does RAM timing need to be considered? I don’t know if I need to use CL30, 32 or 36

[@OliTechCorner]

Is this CPU suitable for non-professional productivity tasks such as programming, basic Photoshop, and video editing?

[@aicystacy4655]

No

[@darreno1450]

It's at the top for photoshop.

[@wrusst]

It works good enough, but not the very top tier

[@TkoddaLee]

This is mainly for gaming

[@Slylegendary]

So excited to get this to play Runescape

[@cicio7777]

Any rumors on when AMD RYZEN will release a desktop cpu with more than 16 cores? like 24 or 32 cores...

[@BKHD605]

you mean threadripper?

[@Cristorbius]

As i don't want/need multiple nvme drives, I'm going to wait for the launch of new B series AMD motherboards which with fewer m.2 slots will be a bit less expensive than the X series boards, and perhaps put some of the extra bit of money saved towards an R9 X3D chip instead when launched next year. Just have to make sure the B series board i pick has a sufficient number of vrm's to cope with the extra cpu cores of the R9 cpu's (at least 14 or 16 vrm's to help keep temps down)

[@Unstator]

Just get a x670E only difference is like 2 usb drives less , other then that they are actually the same board.

[@jamsolid]

Good info, ty.

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

thanks2

[@richardbenke9687]

Great info. I’m going to be building a new rig with this chip when Nvidia releases the 5000 series.

[@sakibabdullah3752]

Over 9000 !!!! Liked that Vegeta figurine

[@aleksandergjengst782]

PBO hurts latency or am I wrong??🤔 I've preferred locked cores up until now for more stable frames and less latency..I'm no expert tho so this could be wrong.

[@ZacharyLagrutta]

Why are we showing 720p fps results on a high end gaming cpu

[@lylobean]

CPU review is the hint.

[@KipperStudios]

because that's how you test the CPU and not the GPU. The lower the resolution, the more it shows what the CPU can handle.

[@Zonker66]

Is it just me or do his arm movements seemed terribly forced?

[@Rouda666]

will the 9800x3d be supported by Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX V2 motherboard? or suggest me another

[@SmokingCrop]

Yes

[@classicsagat]

So, it's over 9000?

[@Hullbreachdetected]

Who's waiting for 11800x3d 20% uplift?

[@darreno1450]

Paired with a 6090, it will be unbeatable!

[@Hullbreachdetected]

@darreno1450 bro, I bet nvidia will call 60xx series Ti versions Ai, I won't miss out on 6080Ai.

[@darreno1450]

@@Hullbreachdetected Yep probably. Hopefully, AMD can bring some serious GPU competition at some point in the future.

[@Gattberserk]

Zen 6 should be good enough, i heard its true multi chiplet design and even the IO die will be the latest generation (not Zen 4 IO on Zen 5 chip)

[@osopenowsstudio9175]

​@@GattberserkI think Zen 5 weakness is their IO die just bottlenecks them because it's kinda odd if Zen 5% happens that bad when the engineers practically made a whole new core instead of just enhancing the Zen 4

[@abtechgroup]

how does it perform with sim apps like xplane/msfs??

[@p1omar]

Do i need new RAM i got a z790 and im going to amd ?

[@icepackager]

why do people keep saying overclocking is new? is it just new to the x3d chips? im confused

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

overclock been there since pentium era, 90s, but became huge/mass on phenom era lga775, around 2006-2007, and become cheaper at phenom 2 & i5 gen2000 series

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

but it becomes obsolete with amd and intel introducing boost tech and cpus ootb are in max perf core ultra prob intel want to bring back those good memories

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

cheaper bcs it was really cheap like best phenom costs 90$ so as the oc capable board

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

think amd phenom were the first to introduce unlocked multiplier chips, for easier oc, its k series on intels

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

phenom was 2009 i guess, prior was athlons x2

[@jimbodee4043]

When installing a new CPU I would try and get the latest BIOS any way but thanks for the heads up on the number.

[@MacwinsTV]

Thank for beta testing all the previous X3D users , now the Real CPU is out with full unlocked OC !

[@maddoxe18]

so if i’m building a new pc with a new mobo can i still start the pc up with the 9800x3d before i update bios

[@cerbs2g]

You down with OPP??

[@mattries2]

Ya, you know me!

[@memoli801]

Nice CPU. Then you turn on the real resolution as you use to play and all its benefit goes out the windows as did you additional money spend , because top 10 CPUs show the same performance. Well done!

[@mr.transposon5017]

It's true upgrading memory speed for anything other than games isn't going to give you performance. And in that case you would get 128 gigabytes of RAM for projects with likely slower memory anyways. The money would be better spent from upgrading your Nvidia 4090 to a strix 4090, to get that slight slight performance increase. I know several people who did this and honestly they should just spend the money on a vacation😅

[@Carlicious-Parts]

optimized performance profile --> OPP :D if you know you know :D

[@JosephDeLeoz]

Install chipset?

[@stevedenton7986]

Can I use my ASROCK B650E Taichi motherboard with the 9800X3D or do I need to update to X870E to get the benchmark numbers I'm seeing?

[@jerrybruan8595]

Go to their website find your board it says there

[@wrusst]

When supported you should get the numbers seen . There's nothing there in these tests that will effect the results yet

[@s7r49]

in 2x speed it looks like you're conducting and orchestra

[@Telecasterland]

My 5800 X3d scoffs and says not yet boyo.

[@haruhitakato]

how to get that PDF? It's so interesting.

[@JohnDoe-tv4zd]

Dont even have to neg offset, just raise edc about 30 to 50 over the power target, it will keep lower volts because more amps are available, so if 165w edc 180-200 , my 5900x hits 5150mhz and 4650 all core

[@JuliuszBaczynski]

for asus it is a beta bios, why is that?

[@sonesh4207]

4:49 RX 7950XTX ?

[@gamingcomputers7485]

😂😂😂

[@Munkbeanz]

Yeah wtf!? Wonder if he’s referring to the swapping of thermal paste, and adding over clock and bios flash to allow even more power to it

[@saultube44]

VBS probably is working with the Antivirus, so you shouldn't run Antivirus while playing, disable it 100%; makes no sense for a PC that's clean to scan it for virus constantly, unless is something external: like a device, a download, or network

[@brockfinn7740]

Pokemon Gold emulator will run so fkn fast

[@marcleroux3426]

i'd wait to be honest, everyone rushed to get the 14900k cpu and look what a shit show that was. until i know what bugs im dealing with im not getting it despite the hype

[@DaShaneo]

I'm down with OPP, yeah you know me.

[@sirnukealot84]

Mm that sweet extra cache will help star citizen performance a bit ❤

[@spawnandbatman6975]

I was actually trying to see how this will perform in star citizen. I play on a 3080ti 9700k 32gb and it’s not bad. I just need a strong cpu now and eventually I’ll upgrade to a 5080 or 5090 lmao.

[@ricardo762]

2:25 Very interesting The DDR5 memories are getting cheaper so I'm currently wondering if the ones with slightly higher clocks like 6200 mhz would make at different because I see them going for the same prices of 6000 mhz ddr 5 memories all the time.

[@TheCrimsonKnight.]

If I remember correctly you'll actually LOSE performance from 6000 -> 6200 because of some kind of memory-CPU sync thing. (They might have fixed that though?) Edit: He goes over this at 2:47.

[@Bastyyyyyy]

@@TheCrimsonKnight. but you can try to manual tune your ram and cpu chip, so that it still runs 1:1 ratio. but its pure luck by what cpu you have. and is the trouble and instability worth it? for like 1-5% more performance?

[@Michael-di6ss]

You down with OPP

[@Games_and_Tech]

The best ram AND the sweet spot is 6400 MTs and set it to 1 ratio with fabric 2133 speed...

[@walterrankin200]

Fabric at 2133 I'm assuming your asynchronous?

[@elukka04]

If u cant get 8000/4000/2000 working 6400/3200/2133 is fastest but every cpu cant handle that... 6000mhz will work on every cpu

[@SwitchTech01]

HELP!!! I have the X870E AORUS PRO ICE , will i have to do bios flashback for this cpu?

[@De2t3ny]

every board needs a bios update when you wanna use new hardware. also using google is a rare skill nowadays

[@SwitchTech01]

@De2t3ny You're actually severely incorrect you gen alpha. X870E comes with updated bios, same version that the 9800X3D uses . People using Google to double check their stupid statements is rare these days you know?

[@De2t3ny]

@@SwitchTech01 "you gen alpha" what is that even supposed to mean? the older mobos NEED an update to even run the new cpus. are you actually fucking stupid? lmfao. stop talking when you have no idea kid. fucking dumbass

[@arvedr]

Seeing intel ads before this video is hilarious

[@VaNiTIII]

the beaver is back

[@politicalpolarbear]

I have to say, the dubbing of the voice over the video just makes it really odd for me. I'd rather you have a mic on your person and do it live. Just my opinion.

[@RTXGamer894]

interesting but for now i staying with 7800x3D

[@HobbyRevolution]

Because anyone buying this is going to game at 720p?? Why not spend the extra money you talked about on a 1440p monitor to actually have better visuals. Can you test higher resolutions for us? 5120x1440p possibly??

[@wrusst]

Competitive online 360 Hz gaming monitors is a thing. So yes these people exist granted usually at 1080p with even 4080-4090s and when you switch to 1440p it becomes more a GPU test which is a weird play on a CPU review ...

[@HobbyRevolution]

@ yes, but it just proved that there is no need to upgrade my 5800X3D at this point…. However putting that $1500 I would have spent going up to this platform will go good to upgrading my 3080 ti because running at 5120x1440p in online competitive games at only 160-180 fps is starting to feel a little slow and I refuse to turn visuals down 😁

[@Munkbeanz]

Didn’t he say he was testing on a 7950xtx? I didn’t think that ever got released?

[@dgkimpton]

Fascinating that faster memory isn't always faster.

[@ThereisNOpandemicWAKEUP]

@6:38 bad advice. you want to destroy your CPU? disable scalar.

[@MitchellTheMitch]

Would 8000MT/s ram be better this time with the 9800X3D? Or still best to choose 6000MT/s ram?

[@PCZONE1]

Best and cheapest just to get 6000 cl 30 and call it a day and if you want more performance tune the timings down even further at 6000 and your golden.

[@sc9433]

AMD said It is possible to overcome the latency issue by using higher speed ram. But it is not going to be worth the money for gaming.

[@TheMrTalliban]

@@PCZONE1 or 6000 cl28, which is also available

[@Fuzzel1993]

did you even watch the video? he gave an answer to that question

[@MitchellTheMitch]

@@Fuzzel1993 no because he yaps too much

[@unforgivingboy1]

thank goodness for new pc hardware. so we can all play unoptimized games on the new hardware that the games have no updates for as well as spend more money on gacha games and market places!

[@linkuzoh]

You made me think that it came out for a sec😭

[@prodbyL1TK3Y]

almost lol

[@bigsnyder01]

I'm down with O.P.P.

[@Suzukii-Krypto]

What's up GM, always watching your videos and always listening for the next one... I'm more of a ryzen 9 flavored kinda person and waiting for an X3D version of a Ryzen 9 CPU. Wouldn't that be an awesome day? But we know they are going to milk this one first. PS: I don't know if that's on their roadmap.

[@bunnybag]

I'm sure it must be stability or production difficulty with x3D of Ryzen 9. Otherwise it's almost always the case to pump out your top tier product first, and then launch lower tiers based on the yields

[@hedroxthelegend]

@Gamer Meld, should I buy this with the new 5090, or stay with my 7950x3d + 5090, assuming I'll be playing on 4K?

[@lordcustard-smythe-smith9153]

The 4k benchmarks I've seen show a bit of an improvement for the 9800x3d, but not enough for me to get one over my 7800x3d. There are also a few weird results where the 1% lows are worse at 4k on the 9800x3d. So I'd want to see why that was first.

[@yogesh_aryal4431]

04:50 rx 7950 xtx new gpu incomming

[@SemihSuda]

Ryzen 9 9950X3D also release November 7 ?

[@mandopepo]

I think those are set to release next year, but I definitely can´t wait for that one as well :)

[@walterrankin200]

Not till January

[@smileinurhand]

AMD Great for the Gaming . However AMD does not recommend for Video editing and Adobe protect. Intel and Nvidia are good.

[@thenuclearchicken6781]

Should I use -30 negative offset all core for my 7800x3D?

[@jamesbrassfield8409]

Oh heck yeah

[@MatissRiekstins]

Fastest gaming benchmark CPU not fastest gaming CPU.

[@NelsonCruz77]

Why not? What's the best gaming CPU in your opinion?

[@rkwjunior2298]

What u mean?

[@Yamchuno]

Who is still buying intel show yourself😅

[@ProperMethodz]

Negative, All Cores, -30 =D

[@Esixty]

Its a cpu benchmark not a gpu you clueless man

[@ColemanLeung-c2x]

Radeon rx 580

[@ArlanZas83]

And what about TDP and cooling?

[@avgjoesgamin9935]

more wrong information, the 9800x3d is only faster then the 7800x3d at 1080p and a very few select games. so stop. i have both chips. so just stop listening to paid youtubers.

[@wololo10]

"Why they didnt think of that in the first place" hahahahah me too man

[@The_Aztech]

Gonna try to pick one up for my next built on release day. Worried it won’t be in stock next year when I’m ready to fully build the pc.

[@Spookyyfoo]

maybe wait for black friday for a potential price drop

[@The_Aztech]

@ I doubt it ;/ I had no luck trying to pick one up today it sold out so fast.

[@nelsontrick5660]

i want a rx 7950xtx

[@Lcfortunato]

5 thing, do the benchmark in 1440p .... 1080p its for guys w/3050 ti or 3060

[@yoramariel3276]

15 hours after the embargo was lifted and you only have 21K views. Gamer Nexus 347K, Hardware Unboxed 204K, JayTwoCents 163K, Linus Tech Tips 820K. Why is that? You are such an expert and can even hold the part in your hand without dropping it. Time to throw in the towel and get a real job. I've said it before and I will say it again, “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”

[@hamyncheese]

because the dude uses a FAKE VOICE

[@OGSuperDirty]

Why the hate lil bro?