9800X3D vs 5700X3D Escape From Tarkov Comparison

[@jimdob6528]

I have a 5700x3d paired with a 7900xt and don’t plan on upgrading till 2028 when the am6 platform is around. Goal is to save 3k usd for a new custom pc and a 4k Oled monitor to go with it.

[@daedalus6433]

I am gonna go for the 9800X3D if there is a good GPU from the 3080 to go along with it

[@FatherBoots]

@@daedalus6433yeah if you’re in the market for a completely new build then the 9800x3d is the best choice. I’m still using an am4 build from 4 years ago and just dropped in a 5700x3d to replace a 3600x and damn it’s a massive upgrade

[@daedalus6433]

@@FatherBoots I have a 5700X3D that I dropped in because my 5800X died. Can imagine how smooth the 0.1% lows will be tho with the 9800X3D

[@FanaticsTV34]

What FPS are you getting with the 7900 XT? I have a 5800x3d with a 7900xtx and on streets I'm lucky to get 70 FPS.

[@29Nerox]

@@FatherBootsthe 7800x3d is the best imo. If you are gaming

[@fabsenbmx]

amazing! I remember switching from 5700x to 5800x3d (seemingly minor change) but especially in Tarkov the difference was minblowing. That's why I always smile at the reviews where they say X3D doesn't really matter but oh boy does it matter in tarkov

[@Svvass]

Went from a 5800X to a 5800X3D back then and yes. it is such a game changer. Also in Hunt: Showdown. Got from fluctuating around 120FPS to stable 180 in that game.

[@maxelito7590]

all about the cache, its a world of a diffence

[@Svvass]

@@inS41NTWhat resolution do you play on? Do you have EXPO in bios enabled? Meaning your Ram runs with the advertised speed. Download MSI Afterburner to see how much utilisation your GPU has. If it is at 95%+ turn down graphics settings.

[@pyurologie]

in most modern games, it makes a gigantic difference yes!

[@pyurologie]

@@inS41NT offline mode often gets worse FPS if you use the default offline settings.. AI is the heaviest factor in tarkov. Have you done a BIOS update/chipset driver update as well? lmk if you're still having issues

[@sky173]

Just finished my 9800x3D and 4070ti Super PC build. Absolutely amazing. Originally, I bought the 5800x3D back in April because I didn't want to spend the money on an AM5 platform, but even that wasn't enough for MSFS. The 9800x3D combined with the 6000Mhz ram made a huge difference, esp in 2K.

[@deloford]

I have just started my FS2024 build with the 9800X3D and 8400MHZ RAM hopefully in time for release. What I noted about the tech alpha was that my 4090 was at times under 99% load which looks very positive given that I was running a 5950X.

[@strongforce8466]

@@deloford you know there is little to no benefit to use 8000 ram with this CPU ? except maybe in productivity, I believe 6000 cl30 or 6400 cl30 (if you can run it) with 1:1 sync infinity fabric is still the sweet spot, also, 8400 ram sounds tricky, even 8000 seem not to be easy to run.

[@deloford]

@strongforce8466 in most scenarios it's only a few FPS but I saw a test that showed Flight Simulator has a big increase in 1% and 0.1% lows (stutters), a big outlier from most games probably due to the large reliance on big texture transfer and loading as you approach airports etc. For the sake of an extra £100 on a £1300 build is worth it for me as this is gonna last me 5 years hopefully. Hardwareunboxed managed to run 8100Mhz on the Tomahawk I believe. And also anything over 7400 beats 1:1 infinity fabric. Look if it doesn't happen fair enough but I am gonna have a go!

[@strongforce8466]

@@deloford Ah yeah in some very specific games engines maybe, since you're a fan of microsoft simulator it make sense to go for it and as you said, it's not that much more expensive anyways, however I had missed that he talk about memory scaling in the 9800x3d video so I went back to check and he show only 3 games but from 1 to 2% difference, it would be interesting to see it tested on many more games including flight simulator.

[@WSS_the_OG]

Excellent video with great in insightful commentary and data tthat is very well presented. As impressive as the 5700x3d is (especially for the money), we have to give credit where its due and marvel at the improvement the 9800x3d brings over the 5x00x3d chips. It's hard to believe, actually, because the 7800x3d didn't move the needle nearly as much as much as the 9800x3d. Pretty amazing. Even so, I'm on the 7800x3d at the moment, and don't feel compelled to upgrade until prices settle down a bit. :) Thanks for another great video!

[@wolfwilkopter2231]

Especially when you see the 1% and 0.1% low, that sometimes even exceed the average of the 5700X3D... And you see how far a CPU can push a GPU like a 4090 in a CPU heavy game up until UHD aka "4K" where GPU limit is usually absolute King even with a 4090. But here you can also see how limited the GPU still was, and how much wiggle room still was left, thats why you never should go too cheap on a CPU, you could, sometimes unknowingly, choke off your GPU with it and then wonder why your numbers dont add up... I mean, look at Skyrim which just got 13years old and still gets modded to heck and back... Vanilla Game (i talk SE/AE tho, as LE is officially ded) is quite easy to run, even with entry level systems of the last 3-5 years, but oh boy can it get very heavy very quickly, when you start modding... and then ppl often ignore the CPU (and RAM with it) and wonder why their systems run like a sack of potatoes, even tho they have good mid tier+ GPU's... I'm on "Gate of Sovngarde" Modlist by Jay serpa + some own tweaks and additions and this runs very well, even with an ENB (Pi-Cho End for Azurite Weathers 2) and Enb Anti Aliasing (Mode: DLAA) in QHD with an RTX 3080 12Gig and an 5800X3D (32Gig DDR4 3600CL16), which outperforms an R7 7700X in that game when it comes to mods, despite being almost a full GHz slower and only running on DDR4, tho with the 3DV Cache and good overall performance, he only starts dropping at between 16 and 17K drawcalls, while the 7700X starts dropping at about 13K drawcalls. Other than that the Modlist still runs pretty much always over 60Fps, even with ENB and ENB AA, only the most demanding areas drop to about 50. And now imagine a 9800X3D with DDR5 6000 CL30 (sweetspot memory, with potential up to 6600 in 1:1 depending on silicon lottery)...^^ Cache is King and when you add some cores and Clocks to it...DAYUM! 😊

[@pyurologie]

thanks so much for the kind feedback, good to see you around!!

[@emptyfueltank]

The 9800x3D is the epitome of the Ryzen series. Just when you thought the 7800x3D couldn't get any better, they just rearrange some shit and BOOM the cook is done

[@harrytarded7002]

yeah if you can afford it, the 9800x3d is better for more experienced pc builders just for the fact alone that you can overclock it, it costs more than the 7800x3d but it's worth it right out the box even if you keep it stock. Otherwise if you just want X3D performance but you dont have the money for the 9000x3d series, get the 5700x3d if you want the cheaper DDR4 platform or the 7800x3d if you can afford the DDR5 platform

[@inS41NT]

I literally got a new PC 3 Months ago with the 7800 X3D.... damn it man

[@harrytarded7002]

@@inS41NT how much did you get the 7800x3d for?

[@pyurologie]

it's just *chef's kiss*

[@pyurologie]

@@inS41NT it'll still hold plenty of value and if you wanted to, later when 9800X3D availability increases, upgrade for just a little more if you resell 78

[@electrolive6518]

Coming from an i9 9900k to 5700x3d, it took just a motherboard change, and the difference is insane. I play at 4k with DLSS myself to get the desired FPS in a 4k 144hz monitor, and it works perfectly for the price. My opinion is that 7800x3d and 9800x3d would be for people who need fps count like 360fps+

[@scrambyeggs1000]

I built a 7800x3d 4070ti a few months back. Got everything for a really good price so I’m not salty about the 9800x3d’s release. My friend has been on am4 for almost 2 years and has been planning on maxing out his build with a 5800x3d and 4080/90 until recently when the CPU’s shot up in price. He’s since settled on a 5700x3d and 4070 super for half the cost and I think he made a great choice. He’s upgrading tonight from a 3700x/3060ti build. Looking forward to seeing the improvements.

[@pyurologie]

The 5700X3D is a really great value, he made a great choice! congrats on the 7800X3D build as well!

[@scrambyeggs1000]

@ ty!

[@Bottlecapy]

Still rocking my 5900X from Late 2020. Thinking of switching to 5700X3D since I mainly game, but thinking of waiting until going all out for the 9800X3D with a X870E motherboard in the near future instead. It’s more a want than a need my 5900X is still going strong for my use case paired with a 4080 Super. AM4 is a legendary platform.

[@pyurologie]

AM4 is indeed legendary, soooo goood. 5900X to 5700X3D you'll still see maybe like a 30% uplift in tarkov performance. Basically, all the vanilla 5000s perform similarly in tarkov and all the X3D 5000s perform the same. 5950X vs 5800X3D tarkov: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGS4mKFmbtWHjaM

[@Hezsta]

Awesome video and excatly what I was looking for when the new CPU blew up in popularity. I'm on a R7 5800X3D + 3080 FTW and while its tempting, I'm looking for a 4090 first when the 5080 upgraders try to sell off theirs.

[@dismelate]

Thanks for the tarkov tests, man, the only good reviewer. I love u

[@pyurologie]

i love YOU, thanks for the support!

[@antondovydaitis2261]

Thank you especially for narrating the benchmarks, as I often listen at work. I will probably eventually upgrade from 5600 to 5700X3D, but not yet.

[@pyurologie]

You're welcome! I'm glad it's helpful for you at work.

[@prezlamen7906]

Oh shiet. Imma put this on watch later and enjoy it with my morning coffee when i wake up.

[@pyurologie]

thank you! hope you enjoyed it

[@nikolaykrustev3679]

Still rocking the og 5800x3d. Tnx for the vid.

[@pyurologie]

my personal favorite CPU of all time, shifted the industry!

[@juhanimertanen3452]

Great video, thank you. I'm going to get 5700X3D now and 9800X3D within 6 months. I'll sell 5700X3D to a friend (who's rocking a 3600) and then we can die together in higher FPS. BF only in two weeks and I'm expecting good deals on components

[@pyurologie]

loll yeah, dying in higher FPS is nice!

[@larsenmats]

5700x3d still doing fine, but the 9800x3d is a beast in it's own league. I have the 5700x3d and will probably not upgrade until AM6. With that said, I mostly play AAA games.

[@pyurologie]

yes exactly, 5700X3D is still such a beast and pound for pound, still the best gaming CPU out there in my opinion!

[@larsenmats]

@@pyurologie yeah. when you consider the price of the 5700x3d, DDR4 and AM4 motherboards. I'm sure it will last me at least 5 more years.

[@exMOSTxHATED]

Microcenter has the9800x3D in stock. Just got one yesterday 😊

[@pyurologie]

yes, that's where i got mine. I got the last one at my location on launch day, but it looks like MC's are getting restocks quick! congrats on the pickup!

[@letsplayskyrimle9391]

Thank you very much for the benchmarks. Despite having used AMD processors for around 25 years, a few years ago I went from a Ryzen 5 1600X to an i7-10700K and my jaw dropped when I saw the leap in performance I achieved in Skyrim. It even seemed like I had updated my graphics card at the time, a GTX 1080Ti. Now with an RTX 4090 and an i7-1270K, I'm upgrading the processor to a 9800X3D and my fear was precisely the performance at the lowest 0.1% FPS. This video came to dispel these fears of mine.

[@pyurologie]

i'm glad the info was useful! someone told me skyrim 6 is coming out soon, i checked it out, looks pretty cool. i'll probably test it as well!

[@longplaylegends]

That's INSANE. Before these new CPU's, I was thinking "Well, I could go with one of the 5000 series X3D chips, since for the rest of my system, I wasn't leaving as much on the table with a mid-range GPU." But now... This thing is just so far ahead it's hard to justify much else. I'd love to wait for the Unity update though to see if that improves things and see where things fall afterwards.

[@loahkii9055]

Yooo, so this morning I did the BIOS reset and it resolved the issue. Frames are 120 ish consistent now. Thanks for the help bro.

[@pyurologie]

ayyy lets goooo! that's great to hear! no problem, really glad it's working now

[@christianenriquez6142]

5800x3d with 4090 here, as much as i wanted a 9800x3d to upgrade to im thinking right now i get a new monitor instead with high refresh rate and oled panel as i definitely don't want to pay scalpers and some sweet deals on monitors going on right now. Thanks for all your videos !!!!

[@lyonkennedy5588]

Thank you so much for this! I'm still on the AM4 platform, and the 5700x3D is a great (and affordable) CPU! :)

[@pyurologie]

you're welcome! yes, 5700X3D still pound for pound best gaming CPU out there in my opinion!

[@senmage]

I'm still holding off until I see the 99X0X3D charts. It's been so hard to resist buying the 9800X3D.

[@Ziyoblader]

​I know right many KZbinrs that review the CPU say it's basically ranges from 8% to Max probably 10 on average for games across the board sad to see AMD with a weak launch for the 9000 series just think about what they could have achieved what's a proper CPU launch and then these x3d variance would even be bigger​@@xDAKPRODUCTIONSx

[@puffyips]

@@bobjohnson6131 because they stopped production so the prices raised, the 7800x3d was $330 a year ago

[@pyurologie]

nice! yeah if the dual 3D cache rumors are true, it'll be super interesting to see results!

[@ograin8045]

​@@pyurologieyeah I don't see them having cache on only one CCD since it benefits productivity as well as gaming.

[@Blindside337]

Great video and tests! I may not play Tarkov but know how impressive this is, for both cpus actually. If you happen to have some lower spec cards, 6700xt, 3070, 6800xt, 3080 etc "even down to the 3060 or 5700xt this comparison could be huge for the average player who have those cards to see what they could get off of a cpu upgrade alone "especially hopping from earlier non x3d am4 cards to the 5700x3d....Noted since those who have done similar tests have gotten a ton of hits and I think you could put together a great set of videos in a way most don't by using the 4090 as the standard for frame tests. Some have no idea just how much of a gain they could snag for $175-200 usd in the 5700x3d or some like a guy today who said he was buying and pairing a 4090 with his 3900x. Said he couldn't afford a cpu upgrade and I advised him that on an am5 x3d with his 3080 could net a lot more frames per $ than jumping from his 3080 to 4090 then being bottlenecked.

[@joshhayes3433]

Built my new rig last week with a 9800x3d and 4080 Super, playing on ultrawide 1440p I can somehow maintain > 100fps in Streets without using DLSS - I was absolutely shocked to see the performance. This build is sticking around for a long time!

[@Cman738]

I was able to upgrade from the i7-8700 from intel to the 9800x3d at MSRP 479$. Total upgrade was a bit over 900$ because I got a new case as well.

[@pyurologie]

oh wow! what an upgrade! congrats!

[@deloford]

Just had delivery of my 9800X3D, Tomahawk 870 and GSkill 8400 48GB RAM. Paired with my current 4090 I should be good for a few years!

[@deloford]

@EthanolEnthusiast yep 32 is not enough for some of the work I do. 64GB cannot be run at 8000MTs so 2x24 is the sweet spot.

[@pyurologie]

congrats! yeah you're set for a WHILLLLE :)

[@slimerxp]

Great video... keep it going!!!

[@pyurologie]

thanks bro!! i appreciate it man

[@salazar1104]

Can't wait to build my next pc with AMD for the first time( for last 15 years i have been always having Intel+Nvidia(sometimes AMD, R9 290 oh boy that was a legend) I will go with Ryzen 5 7600X3D because it cost 300$ instead of 600$ for 9800X3D

[@WSS_the_OG]

If you're one of the lucky few who can get the 7600x3d at Microcenter, then you absolutely have to do it! It's hard to believe you can buy that much performance for that price, and if you can get one it's not even worth considering anything else in that price category. :)

[@pyurologie]

7600X3D is such a great deal if you're near a MC!! congrats!

[@anassmsallem1977]

bro always delivers quality!

[@pyurologie]

thank you so much! much love!

[@icebearliu6403]

exactly what i needed. thx.

[@pyurologie]

awesome! glad it was helpful!

[@zephyrprime]

This is a much bigger difference than I expected

[@pyurologie]

yeah, 5700X3D still a beast, but 9800X3D has advanced a lot

[@CaptainIvanDanko]

This weekend I upgraded from my old i7 7700k to the 5700x3d (running the same nvidia 3070) and my performance in Warzone is sooooo much better.

[@pyurologie]

Nice! That's an awesome upgrade!

[@impact6126]

i was really lucky to be able to get my 9800x3d (at msrp) shipped only a week after release i went from 80-85 avg fps with my 7900x to ~130 avg on streets 1440p online now i get to fully leverage my 3080ti's performance in tarkov the crazy thing is with the new cpu i never drop below 100fps on streets even while using a lpvo

[@impact6126]

aggreed on my previous cpu id struggle to hit 60 using an lpvo on streets

[@patrickrosington1174]

Im on a 3080fe with a 3600 and man my cpu is struggling. Sad the 5800x3d is gone. Going to upgrade to the 5700x3d. And then next year build a new pc with a 9800x3d and a used 4080s fe. Give my current pc to my son who's getting into pc gaming. Loves roblox and fortnite and shit. Minecraft with rtx lol

[@pyurologie]

@@patrickrosington1174 5700X3D performs the same as the 5800X3D in tarkov, it's just cheaper, clock speeds don't really make a difference 5700X3D vs 5800X3D tarkov: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6iuo2aHiLyVgNU

[@GDriss]

Bro thanks a lot! Super helpful! I wathc all your videos and they are gold!!! Do you encode in AV1 and do you think a 4080 can handle stream and record in AV1 CQP 1440p while playing? I think 4080 have dedicated AV1 encoders but does it reduce fps while you play, record and stream at the same time? Thanks A LOT bro 🎉 and continue your great videos Followed🎉

[@pyurologie]

no problem, thanks for checking out my channel! for recording, I encode in H.264. For streaming, I use AV1 + H264 and still barely lose FPS. You can see some of my streams here when I'm streaming AV1 to youtube and H264 to twitch at the same time: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXvYq4GGj9x5irc. With 4080, you should not lose too much as well, maybe 10-15% probably

[@GDriss]

@@pyurologie thank you very much 💪💪💪

[@NathanDoesTech]

I was able to snag a 9800X3d from New egg just be sure you are on auto notify with your payment method at hand

[@pyurologie]

congrats!

[@NathanDoesTech]

@@pyurologie Thanks, it was a mad dash to my computer lol

[@ImportRace]

I just upgraded and old system from a 2700 to a 5700x3d and it made a world of difference. Do the upgrade.

[@ImportRace]

I upgraded it like 2 weeks ago

[@pyurologie]

@@ImportRace congrats! that's a big jump, 5700X3D is beast and pound for pound, still the best gaming CPU out there in my opinion!

[@SikhJedi]

gonna pull the trigger anyday now just waiting for a black friday sale. upgrading from a 3600

[@JayNakazato]

This is what I needed I'm on a 2700x

[@ImportRace]

@@JayNakazato it’s worth it. I went from 57fps to 216fps on average call for duty

[@Niitroglycerine]

Installing one of these Wednesday, the 1% lows are looking insane

[@pyurologie]

lets gooo! congrats on the pickup!

[@necromancer1970]

Currently running 64GB, 5800X3D and an Asus Strix 4090 OC. Though content, always knew an even faster cpu would really help, and let the 4090 fly. This only confirms it (and for all cpu limited games like Tarkov, Simulations, Total war games, ...) - factually when scenes get demanding (like Streets, busy firefights etc.), you get as a minimum, what the 5800X3D offered as a maximum. AND it performs a mile better in work apps, and general desktop use - so well rounded & on current/14th gen Intel level, i really have zero need or urge for a 9950X3D (nor anything Intel). That's mindblowing, and never been an easier decision - 64GB ddr5, X870 MPG Carbon Wifi already bought & @home - 9800X3D bought yesterday (for rrp, just some weeks to wait till next shipments arrive)...

[@pyurologie]

heck yeah! congrats!

[@hanswurst2220]

Thanks for all the effort 👍 Many ppl dont realise that it is actually a lot of work for making "just" one video 🔥

[@pyurologie]

thank you for the recognition! I put a lot of time and work into making these and not looking for pats on the back or anything, but I do appreciate the recognition of the work put in, much love!

[@luvit579]

This is good new, I've got 1 on the way. Package deal w/700x3D and Corsair Vengeance DR4 3200 Dual channel 32 kit.

[@Archipocalypse]

I just bought the 7600X3D paired it with a 4070ti super.

[@pyurologie]

congrats! it's a beast!

[@대식오-x1s]

It might depend on what GPU or Memory you have, but the average difference of 3~60 FPS on streets seems huge, and I'm a streets lover with 5700x3D. I was very happy after witnessing how one CPU can change the entire game, by upgrading from 5600X to 5700x3D. And there's still more lol. My only wish is, that it's almost 720 USD here in my country, which is a fucking thievery, so the price can settle down a bit. Other than that, I'm hyped to see that my streets game can possibly get much smoother in the future

[@pyurologie]

720 is crazy! is that in Korea? yeah streets is butter with the 9800X3D, it's insane

[@대식오-x1s]

@@pyurologie Yup, most of the so-called "reputable" electronic shops here, put a "premium" price layer on top of the regional MSRP, with the name of items in "high-demand"(It's somehow true, but 30~40% price increase from original price is still a madness). We call it the infamous "Yongsan Premium", because most of them are located in Yongsan. This shit has been done for decades and people have been calling them out since then, but nothing seems to be changed. We just hope the few fair and reasonable stores can get more stocks from AMD so the other fucks that go over $600 can screw themselves 😭

[@RandomYooser]

I was switching over my nephews components into his new case and found out that he has the ryzen 7 3700x. I bought him the ryzen 7 5700x3d paired with his 3080 ti. He should be good for another 5 to 10 years. 🎉

[@pyurologie]

Nice! That's a great upgrade, he'll be set for a while!

[@pietro_s032]

Your channel is the best! Thanks

[@pyurologie]

YOU are the best, thanks so much. much love!

[@happyracing3359]

i will wait till prices go down, but man that FPS is a dream!

[@pyurologie]

yeah stock should become more and more available, yes the FPS is insane!

[@xMusketer]

Great video! None of the X3D-chips are available where I live right now. The 9800x3d (backorder) is 600 usd and the 9700x is available at 380 usd. Will the latter suffice for streets in 4k? 30CL 6000 mhz RAM.

[@mpmp-t9r]

i'd be interested in benchmarking menu responsivness. i see some streamers flying through the stash/flea/traders while for me, every screen transition takes a long time, i wonder if you'd be able to identify the bottleneck for this

[@rain8478]

Could that be a delay caused by ping? I'd imagine there would be serverside checks for your trade interactions that you cant really help on your end besides moving physically closer to the server. Another game I played had terminals that were noticably more responsive on low ping.

[@pyurologie]

yeah i'm not sure how to speed that up, never tested it myself. i'll put that on my to do list

[@blzdCoockie]

Would have loved a PvE benchmark too

[@pyurologie]

i'll add one shortly

[@dirkdiggler5581]

I want to upgrade from 3600 to 5700x3d. You say the cooler from the 3600 ( same as in video ) will do the job? Can someone recommend some buck/value cooler if thats bit tight or should I just go with a really good cooling paste?

[@pyurologie]

yes, even the old AMD Wraith stealth cooler will be adequate at a minimum. I'd recommend the peerless assassin for the best bang for the buck air cooler. Even the best cooling paste will make a really minimal difference. peerless assassin: amzn.to/493gFLp

[@ignacioaltamirano9273]

Very good work

[@BlindingSun_]

I can’t get hold of a 9800x3D in the uK (no stock) what would be the next best Amd processor for gaming?

[@pyurologie]

yeah, damn scalpers went crazy with all the hype surrounding the 9800X3D. Here's my 9800X3D vs 7800X3D comparison: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHW7dmNrh9OYpqs The 7800X3D is still a beast and will hold value for a long time going forward. When 9800X3D prices settle, you could also resell the 78 and move up to 98, just drop it into same setup when the time comes

[@BlindingSun_]

@ thanks broski

[@ChrisKoteck]

I made the switch from 2700x to 5800x3D and im not sure if i'll get a higher jump again. but maybe if I wait until the last AM5 release

[@leandromendes7573]

heyy i have been seeing a lot of your videos lately and i wanted to ask if i should go for the 7800x3D with the 7800XT and 1080p monitor for rust or thr 7700x with the 7800XT and a 1440p monitor for rust??? anyways thank u a lot for these videos

[@pyurologie]

personally i'd go with 7800X3D because there's a large performance difference. It can take you up to 4K high performance gaming and leave you the option to change your monitor later down the line. These days, even 1440 high refresh monitors can be found for pretty damn good prices, especially with black friday comin up

[@Blindside337]

If you have a system that runs at the moment or just a decent gpu, you really may want to look into the 8800xt which is coming in the next few montha and while some claim 7900xtx performance for $500, if it was worst case $600 and placed somewhere mid ways between the 7900ct and xtx it will be a steal. Also as you may have seen, 7800xt prices and 7900xt as well have been falling recently trying to dry up sales before the 8800xt launch so you will save the longer you wait if a 7800xt would do what you wanted. .... If you happen to be in the US and a Micro-Center is near, they have the 7600x3d at $300 or a kit with it + b650plus wifi Asus Tuf motherboard and 32gb of ddr5 ram for $400. You may want to sell the ram for faster down the road but with inflation on the 7800x3d nearing 9800x3d as stock dries up you could have the combo for close to the same price as the 7800x3d alone. The 7600x3d can be had elsewhere at a good price just not that epic. From tests I have seen just barely lags behind a 7800x3d for gaming and would free up the extra cash towards that 1440 monitor or bumping that 7800xt to a 7900xt if you didnt have a card to run for a few months to wait for the 8800xt. "not trying to swoop in with recommendations @pyurologie , just a bit of an AMD junkie haha love your work man especially this video! . "

[@brazil7028]

I switched from 3700x to 5800x3d and gtx 1080 non ti to rtx 4080 and change was night and day. I shouldn't need to upgrade until at least the next platform change.

[@whipdan674]

I bet they have some not up to spec silicone in house that they could use for a budget 7700x3d. And if they continue this route maybe we will have 9700x3d in 2 years or so.

[@pyurologie]

this is exactly what i was thinking, that they would release a 7700X3D going forward

[@780Northface]

I have 7800x3d + 3080. Should I upgrade to 9800x3d or a better GPU for 1440p in Tarkov?

[@pyurologie]

9800X3D will net you a large upgrade if you can get your hands on one. 3080 will already max out 1440 settings in tarkov. here's my 3080 playlist, you can check out the benches in there: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2PXfomsbcuaf7c

[@780Northface]

@@pyurologie thank you so much man, you're a huge reason why im having so much fun playing tarkov. keep it up brother!

[@James_744]

How much is the 7800X3D now? Seems they’re more expensive than when I got mine over a year ago

[@pyurologie]

yeah, they're selling above retail in most places I look right now. For a little while, the price was down very low, but seems all prices have risen again

[@KalamarikoLubriko]

My man, now that STALKER 2 is out and we keep hearing that the thing is VERY cpu-demanding, are you planning to do some benchmarking showing how the 9800X3D deals with the game? CHeers!

[@wolfwilkopter2231]

I'm Team 5800X3D, for almost 2 years now. ;) So for me it would be the 9800X3D, maybe even the 11k ones, depending on y needs in the near future. But first will probably be an GPU Upgrade, from a 3080 12Gig to a 5080 or something (QHD High Refresh or high quality/RT gaming).

[@wolfwilkopter2231]

@@EthanolEnthusiast Yeah the 12, especially in QHD, with RT and mods are not enuff anymore. Some Games are going over that even without mods and co, not to mention FrameGen,that also adds 1-2Gigs...(tho i cant use the Nvidia one yet, which adds another reason)

[@JakeCrockett-xo3wq]

how are the frametimes on your x3d setups? cant get my 7800x3d to be stable in this game ive tried stock and tightened timings and nothin worked i just get massive dips on mine

[@gerardkaasplank3804]

Tarkov is known for Memory leaks, maybe your memory is bottlenecking the performance of your CPU what/how much RAM are you rocking

[@mooosey]

Yeah realistically 32gb of ddr5 with expo enabled should be just fine. And having the game downloaded to an nvme ssd or even a sata ssd. I've never had any issues with my 7800x3d. Also the issue may be running out of vram, depending on your GPU. Try lowering texture quality and see if that helps.

[@JakeCrockett-xo3wq]

@@gerardkaasplank3804 32 6000

[@JakeCrockett-xo3wq]

@@mooosey vram is solid game is on an ssd. maybe my cpu or something else is faulty

[@pyurologie]

constant dips or is it at certain times during raids? The game produces dips normally when loading in AI at the beginning of raids and a couple times throughout raids. lmk

[@lexm0]

About to purchase a new rig with a 7800X3D chip, what would be the most ideal GPU and RAM configuration for max performance at 2K res in Tarkov?

[@pyurologie]

6800XT, 6950XT, 7800XT, 7900GRE, 3080, 3080Ti, 4070 all max out 1440 for tarkov. depends on how much you wanna spend and other games you might play, but I wouldn't go higher than these cards because at the next step up you can spend a lot more, but not get much more benefit.

[@lawsious8288]

Do u have to Q flash update BIOS when getting the 9800X3D? Or does it boot up without and then u can update afterwards? Great vid! :)

[@georgwarhead2801]

you will need to update the bios if you are coming from ryzen 7000, if you buy the mainboard new, chances are good that you already get a updated bios. normaly there is a lable on the box for "ryzen9000 support" or "ryzen9000 ready"

[@lawsious8288]

@@georgwarhead2801 Ah ok i see. I am building a completely new pc and I got a X870E Pro Ice motherboard and the 9800X3D. So I was just wondering if I can build it and boot it up without having to Q-Flash it first. Thanks for the reply!

[@georgwarhead2801]

@@lawsious8288 well in that case you dont "need" to update the bios, but you absolutly should update it anyways if there are already updates avaible

[@lawsious8288]

@@georgwarhead2801 Okay great. I will definitely update the bios. Is it best to do it through the BIOS or is the Q-Flash method just as good?

[@wolfwilkopter2231]

@@lawsious8288 Do the update, they are 9000ready, but that doesnt neccessarily mean 9800X3D too, they need the latest AGESA and stuff, which might not be on your Board already

[@thebigrandy321]

i have a 3700x and a 2070super im tryin to decide if i should upgrade to the 5700x3d or build new with the 9800x3d and upgrading my gpu... im thinking about gettin the 7900xt or xtx. any input either way would be greatly appreciated. tarkov is rough currently btw lol

[@pyurologie]

i just did a 5700X3D vs 9800X3D comparison: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmOscoiueayeZq8 Basically, 5700X3D is best bang for the buck upgrade possible for AM4 users. 9800X3D is best in class and still a great value if you can find at MSRP now. Depends on your budget and preferences. I have tested both 7900XT and XTX. Both are great cards, but overkill for 1440. 7800XT is the ideal 1440 card, or 7900GRE. Because the next step up, prices go up a lot more but you don't get much more benefit in games really. I'd rather spend the extra scratch on a nicer monitor, keyboard, or mouse. These will directly impact your experience way more. or even just pocket the extra cash and save some money

[@waren-k4j]

Is the performance for 4k with dlss equivalent to 1440p?

[@georgwarhead2801]

4k highest settings (no RT) + DLSS balanced (or performance mode, dont remember exactly...) is equal to 14440p native with highest settings (no RT)i therms of fps

[@pyurologie]

just about equal yeah

[@DariusDee]

I dont understand how this will improve my FPS. I play with a 7800x3d and a rx 7900xt. My gpu is on 99% usage but my CPU at 20-30% when playing tarkov. When i switch to a better cpu this shouldnt improve my experience ?! Can someone explain this to me

[@dondoysmotovlog6599]

nice vid.

[@longbowdt]

Which of these two better supports VR flight simulations?

[@pyurologie]

i don't know yet, but i'm testing MSFS2024 starting today!

[@LKDplayz]

I need some help… I paired the amd Ryzen 7 5700x3d with the asrock b550m itx-ac and the pc powers on, gpu turns on, but no fan spin up, and no display. Any tips?

[@Crazzzycarrot-qo5wr]

14600kf is so much cheaper here in sweden than the 5700x3d, and very similar performance.

[@nolan6137]

I feel stupid for asking this but is the 4k upscaled or hard rendered?

[@Chilledoutredhead]

11900k with 4070s at 1440p, and your 1% lows are higher than my max fps 😂

[@pyurologie]

that X3D life :D

[@luxiet2518]

How does 9800X3D run on that X670 ? Is it okey? Im thinking about swaping my Ryzen 9 7950X3D for that because i dont need those 34 cores.

[@jimdob6528]

Zero issues there. A b650 board can handle the 9800x3d easily as long as they aren’t the extreme budget boards. That’s the beauty of am4 and am5 motherboards.

[@williamregal8503]

im thinking of buying the 5700x3d just order a cpu cooler Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 Mini

[@jabirkuptar5182]

6:36 how do you get more FPS in 1440p than in 1080p ?????????????

[@Lv100FlexingFurby]

How do you get above 144fps in tarkov?

[@pyurologie]

for nvidia cards, turn on nvidia reflex to uncap FPS

[@muv0]

Any tests of 9800x3d online not on streets?

[@pyurologie]

i played some other maps on my livestreams (www.youtube.com/@pyurologie/streams), but haven't posted any individual vids yet, lmk if you wanna see a specific map

[@DanielSeymour4]

Subaru STI 🤤

[@Zygmunator]

Ordered a 9800x3d for myself and helped a friends son build a heavily discounted 5700x3d system for a great Fortnite experiernce.

[@doubledragon5920]

обновился на 5700x3d меня устраивает)

[@rkwjunior2298]

My bottleneck is my 4090. I'll wait for a 5090

[@JaredT-k8s]

It's a tough call for me, the 5700x3d is a compelling chip, good performance and price. The 9800x3d is also good but the full setup is about double the price for board/CPU/RAM. My monitor maxes at 60 Hz so I'm probably going to do the 5700x3d.

[@J1mmmmY]

Brother, do yourself a favour and get yourself a monitor with at the very least 144hz. It will change your life. You''ll never go back to 60hz afterwards.

[@JaredT-k8s]

@@J1mmmmY I've tried them before and returned them. Can't tell enough of a difference.

[@wizpig64]

nooo i dont want to upgrade i already have the perfect CPU, 5800x3d! OMG THE 0.1% LOWS

[@phatminhphan4121]

AMD has so many good stuffs now ❤

[@PirandelloKruger]

Все у кого R7 5700x3d не двигайтесь 😅

[@imrebarna6328]

Please Same CPU comparsion PUBG 1080p 1440p maybe 4k Thanks 🙂

[@starmank9940]

hey pyu why did i just get banned from the discord

[@sharkgaming1427]

ty for all your videos and help can you do RTX 3050 with the new 9800x3d on Rust

[@JabbaDuhNutt]

5950x vs 9800x3d

[@edaciousx]

I would love to see this comparison with DLSS on at 4k versus off and comparing 5700x3d and 9800x3d obviously. thanks for a good video

[@pyurologie]

ok ill add it to my list

[@ИльяТитаренко-о4ш]

I have 5950X and wait for 9950X3D

[@bigpoint58]

i have the same cpu but thinking about the 9800x3d

[@ИльяТитаренко-о4ш]

@@bigpoint58 if only for gaming - OK.

[@bernard1475]

this game is so hard to run

[@denisnatera3633]

Rocking 5700x3d

[@kkk-k7k-i9s]

nice video // i7 9700k > 5700x3d is fine upgrade? for tarkov n spt

[@kkk-k7k-i9s]

i have am4 board to

[@pyurologie]

yes absolutely. here's a 9400F to 5700X3D upgrade video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZvUfJR7p9Wgn8U

[@H0tCh0c0-gr3qe]

what a beast cpu 9800x3d