Absolutely. Cowardly nonsense. Mayo blows: drop him - clean sweep.
@JR-nq7mc11 күн бұрын
Why would anyone hire/keep a HC that needs a babysitter? Fire him.
@FeedDaMachine12 күн бұрын
Pats trying to make Mayo work is gonna lead to a yearly cellar postion with weekly Monday walk backs.
@dennispelchat526712 күн бұрын
AVP is the best couch we have, if going to fire anyone fire mayo and the DC.
@CoryD_8512 күн бұрын
That's what I'm saying bruh. I'm not sure why the Maye run play thing was brought up, who cares if he doesn't do a design run play towards the end of the season risking injury, we already know he can run amuck on the field he doesn't need to practice that lol smh, I want him and his WRs to get on the same page if anything that the most important thing to be concerned about. there was no point in causing Mayo to say you said it not me on a pointless question
@namtrof0112 күн бұрын
Is the best we have good though?
@CoryD_8512 күн бұрын
I say fire Mayo, bring in a offense minded head coach, fire Covington, keep AVP a d his crew to keep Drake comfortable.
@DMKFACTOR12 күн бұрын
He’s a good coach too!
@CoryD_8512 күн бұрын
No no no i say fire Mayo, bring in a offense minded head coach, fire Covington, keep AVP as OC and his crew to keep Drake Maye comfortable.
@guineacatarmy12 күн бұрын
I’m so sick of this blind loyalty… fire mayo!!!!!!!!
@SkeletorsSon11 күн бұрын
He's been confirmed safe so keep crying ya baby 😂
@gb-dt3vk11 күн бұрын
Why is the primary concern to help Mayo and not bring in someone that has a lot to offer the team without having to learn it .
@christopherfiorentino655212 күн бұрын
Rookie coaches with a rookie QB is a bad match
@DMKFACTOR12 күн бұрын
Worked out for Houston last year!
@Paul-71712 күн бұрын
The blind leading the blind
@christopherfiorentino655212 күн бұрын
@@DMKFACTOR apples to oranges, do a quick search of position coaches and coordinators experience. Your argument is the logical fallacy of "false equivalency"
@DMKFACTOR12 күн бұрын
@@christopherfiorentino6552 How ever you want to spin it casual!
@DMKFACTOR12 күн бұрын
@@christopherfiorentino6552 Only apples to oranges because it doesn’t fit your naive narrative!
@Sas690312 күн бұрын
90% of the audience didn’t want Wood to draft Drake Maye?! Bullsh*t - sorry Freddy that’s the opposite of reality
@sugarman932310 күн бұрын
Can’t do option 2. You will not get anyone legit to come join. It’s got to be top down.
@YingYangStang12 күн бұрын
The HC mentor is a ridiculous idea - when you can just shit can the guy there instead of coddling him with a feeding bottle and get a real Coach now … Come on Man
@guineacatarmy12 күн бұрын
Krafts ego has made this organization the laughing stock of the nfl. Kraft will not do a thing this off season! My prediction, he will keep mayo, and not spend money!
@obamacare481112 күн бұрын
He decided on mayo like 25 days into his coaching career
@DMKFACTOR12 күн бұрын
Laughing stock? You mean the guy who’s brought us to 10 Super Bowls and 6 Lombardis? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 What’s success in your mind casual? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Orcasrule635512 күн бұрын
@@DMKFACTORThe patriots won despite Kraft not because of him. He caught lightning in a bottle with Brady. Than refused to get him weapons to win. Kraft is the worst owner in the NFL
@DMKFACTOR12 күн бұрын
@ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 How was it around here for the 30 years before he bought the team casual?
@DMKFACTOR12 күн бұрын
@@Orcasrule6355 Not too bright are you casual? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@richardgazoorian514912 күн бұрын
Wolf has been involved in drafting players for years. With the exception of Maye they had a terrible draft. The two wide receivers they drafted in the 2nd and 4th rds don't show any promise. It's like Bill never left. The DC is awful, the HC while a nice guy is very inexperienced and it shows, Van Pelt was getting better until the last game. The future despite Maye does not look very bright. Everyone needs to go.
@dakibmw12 күн бұрын
Oh, come on, it's not that bad. Of two WRs, one has the best hands in football, and the other one can make people in wheelchairs stand up. And their stats are like...I dunno....1 catch for 4 targets....combined...for season. Drafting is fine...
@DMKFACTOR12 күн бұрын
Actually Wolf hasn’t! He was a consultant then ran the scouting department. It’s been Matt Groh this whole time! Remember is was Groh not Wolf Klemm wanted to fight last year over the garbage players!
@Yewtewbturd12 күн бұрын
Culture isn’t an abstract concept.. it’s the product of winning games, playing hard, practicing and preparing, consistently doing the right things at every level, being competitive, etc. it’s built over time by doing those things day in and day out. Mayo hasn’t accomplished any of that. Bringing in an overlord to teach your coach how to be a coach is not how you build culture. JFC how did this organization become an absolute dumpster fire on the level of the Panthers in 1 season.
@dchenkin0212 күн бұрын
Patriots have a far superior quarterback than the Panthers, Raiders, Giants. Getting a quality General Manager would immediately elevate the Patriots back to a mediocre team.
@Yewtewbturd12 күн бұрын
@dchenkin02 From a player personnel perspective sure. Mayo doesn’t even take accountability for his own mistakes until forced to by the media, that’s the culture he’s creating and it’s on display every Sunday. Same mistakes game after game, that isn’t just a talent issue, it’s coaching. Even with better players this team wouldn’t be middle of the pack with Mayo as HC. And good luck to the GM bringing in talent with the dumpster fire Mayo has created. lol Mayo and company interviewed 12 OCs and 11 said no thanks, they settled with the only guy who would say yes. And the guy they hired doesn’t even have a record of calling plays!! 😂 Do you think with all of the teams expected to go in on Tee Higgins, that he won’t look at the Patriots offer and belly laugh the same way Aiyuk and Ridley did?
@justinvigeant363912 күн бұрын
Elliot wolf is not a first year guy he's been in the front office for years building this team and it's been awful what an ignorant thing to try and say to defend wolf.
@chad369212 күн бұрын
Bill had the decision when wolf was there in the past. This year was his first year making decisions.
@DMKFACTOR12 күн бұрын
He’s had NOTHING to do with the roster until last year! He was in charge of scouting! It was Matt Groh who Bill trusted with the draft and free agency! Remember it was Matt Groh that Andre Klemm wanted to fight over the oline talent last year, not Wolf! Wake up casuals!
@Paul-71712 күн бұрын
@DMKFACTOR yup get rid of Matt "Thornton runs fast" Groh and Mayo....keep Wolf and Mayo scapegoat AVP who's main sin is trying to keep Maye from getting killed in meaningless games
@DMKFACTOR11 күн бұрын
@@Paul-717 People, I guess missed that whole Klemm Groh thing last year! Remember Bill was very close to Al Groh, Matt’s dad, and has been close to Matt his whole life! Matt was his golden boy! Tiny Tyquon and Mac Jones were going to be our Patrick Mahomes and Tyreke Hill! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@christopherriley937210 күн бұрын
I think that you are missing this, remember what Parcels said about his time in New England. If you want me to cook the meal, let me at least pick the ingredients. I think Robert and Johnathan are the ones who are making the decisions for the first time in 25 years. It shows on the field, the owners should never be involved in player and personnel decisions. Let the football people make their best decisions and if they screw up, you move on from them.
@larryprimeau588512 күн бұрын
this idea sounds like something a 11 year old fan will come up with. Utter stupidity.
@Kevinjimtheone11 күн бұрын
Toucher rarely has any good arguments, and it’s even more rare for him to be able to express those, but saying that 90% of the fan base didn’t want Maye is absolute lunacy. There was a tiny fraction of ill informed people that were extremely vocal about their preference of not taking, not just Maye, but any QB with the 3rd overall pick because of how abhorrent the roster was, and still is. I wish he wasn’t the co-chair to Hardy how I like to listen to, and even worse, I wish he wasn’t part of so many panels with good regular guests - like Perry and Breer.
@obarbeito12 күн бұрын
Also, this conversation and "ideas" is disgusting. Only mediocre minded people or companies will do this stupidity. Stop discussing the ideas that ownership gives you to try and sell it to the fans. It's disrespectful and this one is just plain stupid.
@LM-vr1fe12 күн бұрын
If Mayo gets fired, will he become DC somewhere else? 99% NO! Enough said.
@DMKFACTOR12 күн бұрын
You’d be surprised! He’d get hired pretty quickly! Only the casuals here in New England feel that way! Very well respected throughout the league, and numerous coaches would snatch up a guy call Mini-Bill!
@polandfresh1017 күн бұрын
@@DMKFACTORMini-Bill is such an insult to BB. Mayo has never even called plays. He might get a job, but he wouldn’t be on top of anyone’s list.
@DMKFACTOR7 күн бұрын
@ What ever you say little casual!
@DMKFACTOR7 күн бұрын
@ The ignorance is strong in you casual!
@johnenterkin12004 күн бұрын
It doesn't matter who stays or who goes until they fix both the O-line and the D-line.
@eriks.uperpatriot581710 күн бұрын
The QB is priority. DO NOT CHANGE THE OFFENSE! Keep AVP working with Drake Maye & bring in a play caller! I’d also keep Scott Peters the O-Line coach. Who’s had to work with mostly practice squad & street guys to play on the Pats O-Line. TE’s have played descent. I’d keep TE’s Coach Bob Bicknell. RB’s & WR’s Coaches can be replaced. DC Covington should be replaced with a more experienced coach.
@yournewbestfriend814911 күн бұрын
Toucher you are wrong on every important topic discussed in this clip.
@edwardkropp840011 күн бұрын
to me it’s very simple, do you believe at this point that Vrabel will always be the better head coach than mayo? i think some fans of the team don’t realize how bad the patriots brand has gotten since brady left. you’re not just gonna be able to go out there and get ben johnson and a star gm candidate because this job is going to be near the bottom of anyone’s list! Vrabel is an exception due to history but the idea that you’re going to clear house and immediately find more competent replacements after this disaster of a year is a pipe dream! give mayo and wolf another year to build with a bunch of cap space and if you’re able to improve the reputation of the team a bit (look competent for a season) you’ll be in a much better place next year to find replacements
@thaddeustucholski12 күн бұрын
This rebuild all starts with firing Eliot Wolf.
@DMKFACTOR12 күн бұрын
Actually Matt Groh! Eliott Wolf has only had player personal duties this year! If you forgot, or more likely missed it, remember our Oline coach Andre Klemm from last year? Got fired? He got into a fight with Matt Groh over the players Matt had brought in, not Elliott Wolf! Bill trusted Groh, he’s known Groh since he was a kid. Wolf was a Kraft hire!
@JR-nq7mc11 күн бұрын
Wolf and Groh both need to go. This draft and free agency is the worst I've ever seen. And that's supposedly why they fired Bill.
@JR-nq7mc11 күн бұрын
@@DMKFACTORthey both suck. This draft and free agency are atrocious.
@DMKFACTOR11 күн бұрын
@ You’re right casual, Drake Maye is awful isn’t he? And who else were they supposed to get during this past free agency period? See casual this is the real world, not Madden or fantasy football!
@JR-nq7mc11 күн бұрын
@@DMKFACTOR The commander's we're able to rebuild their OL and defense. Why couldn't we?
@michdico959112 күн бұрын
Why in the world would anyone who's got any value come here to be an assistant head coach. Why not get the guy who's got the value and make him the head coach??
@DMKFACTOR12 күн бұрын
No “valued” head coach will be coming here if Mayo is fired after 1 year! It’s like like 200k a year job that’s open every 6 months! You run as far away as possible!
@michaelcole125112 күн бұрын
Fire everyone!
@obarbeito12 күн бұрын
Most fans wanted the QB, Tom Curran was the one that wanted to do things the other way around and only 10% of fans. Don't be a revisionist. Just look at the comments from that time. Stop insulting the fans
@jacobhughes901012 күн бұрын
So hire a head coach to be a assistant head coach? Why wouldn’t you just fire mayo and hire vrabel instead of doing all of that lol
@stephenmartin64305 күн бұрын
What elite expertise does Mayo bring to the table?
@spod757512 күн бұрын
Bringing in a assistant head coach to teach Mayo. Then why have Mayo as your head coach. Assanie and convoluted logic. Clown logic and rationale.... Fit a square peg in a round hole.
@PedroDaim12 күн бұрын
Yeah, this is total nonsense.
@polandfresh1017 күн бұрын
Fred’s grand idea is to bring in a coach to coach the head coach on how to actually coach properly. Maybe just hire a better coach!
@tonystarks772212 күн бұрын
Mayo wasnt even the defensive coach when steve was here anyway he didnt call any plays
@DMKFACTOR12 күн бұрын
No, but he was building the game plans!
@patricktotten971211 күн бұрын
Keeping Mayo would be beyond negligen. No one is coming to coach with him.. no one is coming to help Jerod or coach under him… it’s over .. it’s done .. 86 the whole fucking operation from Wolfe down .. scrap it… how about they do their fucking job and find a young innovative up and coming mind … someone highly coveted by actual franchises.. pluck from San Fran .. Baltimore, KC and so on. That’s the way … enough with the shit. The “patriot way” is long dead and done.
@1sewalker11 күн бұрын
I don't expect Mayo to be fired this year. He was an emotional hire. I understand R.K. has made more money than I will ever see, but I learned long ago that emotional hires are usually a mistake. Anything is possible, but it would take a lot for Mayo to be fired after one season.
@jimmorris412211 күн бұрын
Belick had Ernie to help him , Fred might be right.
@mikechan23112 күн бұрын
This whole conversation is dumb. The premise of a “CEO” HC is dumb. What the eff is the HC doing if he’s not coming up with the game plan and actively keeping all the departments on track, with the proper plan for the week. Even Bill was hands on in the areas he needed to be involved in. Mayo just doesn’t have the experience on ANY side of the ball. He was brought in too early. Stop throwing good money after bad and get people in there that can do the job.
@JR-nq7mc11 күн бұрын
This dude think Doug Peterson isn't a good HC but that Jerod Mayo can be lol. What are we even talking about guys? Why would you hire a HC that needs mentors and his hand held? This is so stupid it's not even funny.
@JR-nq7mc11 күн бұрын
The Commanders got new ownership, new HC, new GM, entire new staff, rookie QB, after years and years of chaos and they look great. What's the Pats excuse?
@nexigram12 күн бұрын
How do we fire Robert Kraft?
@stephenmartin64305 күн бұрын
a great coach is instant culture! He is a guru on offense or defense. Maybe most important is that he has built relationships along the way. Guys that are great scheming up the run game, coaching ol, or coaching qb's, or whatever. Elliot Wolf comes across as arrogant. This organization needs a complete overhaul.
@goldenbear825011 күн бұрын
WHY does the first question HAVE to be, "What helps Jerod Mayo the most?" This accepts the Kraft assumption that Mayo has what it takes to be a successful NFL head coach. WHAT has he done that should lead anyone to come to that assumption? I understand that is the scenario that the Krafts seem to be forcing on the franchise, but do the fans and the press need to accept it??? Seems like this discussion is a little bit of pandering to the Krafts...
@moheganson2 күн бұрын
Who the heck is Demarcus Covington
@marclefebvre7071Күн бұрын
The only guy out there who might fit the role is Wade Phillips. Phillips is 77, has s ton of NFL experoence and this is his only way back to the NFL for him. I think Phillips would want to end his great coaching career doing this vs head coaching the San Antonio Brahmas!
@mattesyl3312 күн бұрын
I don't think we can call Mayo a Defensive HC. Infact I don't see anything on the Pats that makes me think "now THAT'S a Gerard Mayo team."
@DMKFACTOR12 күн бұрын
Jerod!
@tomz659412 күн бұрын
Why are they acting like Alex Van Pelt is a bad coach? He has Drake Maye in a good spot early in his career. Nobody is going to win with that offensive line.
@TPAdumeni12 күн бұрын
the hypothetical gymnastics you have to do to make mayo try to work is insane. embarassing decision by the krafts. if maye wasn't on this team most of would have mentally checked out after week 5 when we got dog walked by the dolphins pratice squad qb.
@tonystarks772212 күн бұрын
Brian hartline for WR coach
@Paul-71712 күн бұрын
Soooo let's get someone to train our inadequate head coach instead of getting a qualified head coach....great idea
@tonystarks772212 күн бұрын
So AVP is the scapegoat. And mayo and covington get to keep their jobs
@johnhaversack163411 күн бұрын
Harbaugh was the guy to get..but that takes balls..Patriots front office dont have them.
@joesephsmith799112 күн бұрын
Do not just look at the coaching staff. Many New England Patriot players also have to go.
@djbullydiselecta75327 күн бұрын
WTH???.. Are we trying to develop Mayo as a Coach? Or Get Back to winning? #ConfusedPatriotsFan
@johnhaversack163411 күн бұрын
Nothing changes..who really believes Kraft will do anything right?
@mathewkonecny62766 күн бұрын
Stop it that dude wrote a whole book on himself after they won that Super Bowl
@obarbeito12 күн бұрын
When you try to start something new, and try to start it with mostly people from the past, it won't work. Fire everyone, bring new blood. Hire Ben Johnson, he's an offensive mastermind, has been part of a rebuild, has his staff and would never need an OC calling plays. Fck Josh McDaniels, forget Vrabel, stop trying to make work something that is obvious won't work. This is not a HC school, this is a proffesional NFL team, if you want to learn coaching, go be a coordinator in another team. No good free agent or coordinator will come here to work under this mediocre JV staff. Stop, just stop.
@obamacare481112 күн бұрын
I hope im wrong but as long as robert kraft is around we are going to do anything great he hand picked mayo 20 something days into his coaching career as his next head coach because he had a "feeling" and trusts his own "judgment" this team is doomed until johnny boy steps up
@sheldoncoffelt189110 күн бұрын
I'm pretty sick of this shit where we give credit for one and only one pick of the draft where they did what pretty much anybody that wouldn't have a QB would do. He could break a year or two from now under the pressure of the terrible team around him that still hasn't been addressed. Mac Jones took us to the playoffs and was a pro bowl alternate but you're all getting excited over a bottom feeder because the QB looks good. I think Drake maye is better but it doesn't change the fact that he'll be broken by 30 carrying this trash team on his back if he actually stays.
@Orcasrule635512 күн бұрын
The elephant in the room is Robert Kraft. We as patriots fans have the worst ownership in the NFL. He’s extremely cheap, arrogant & thinks he knows football. He doesn’t. The success the patriots had was 100% Brady/Belichick
@tonystarks772212 күн бұрын
Eliot wolf free agents and draft class have been a disaster, besides drake maye ,
@MarcusGray-p8v12 күн бұрын
I’ll fire coverington n hire vrable as defensive coordinator
@JohnMalerba12 күн бұрын
Lmao off. Vrabel as head coach fire the snitch mayo.
@patricktotten971211 күн бұрын
If Mayo isn’t focusing on the defense he’s completely and utterly useless
@jirachi82974 күн бұрын
Hope all stays. We need better talent. Both offense and defense suffered injuries. Ur asking this o line practice squad guys to perform in pro bowl material. By a newly hc and oc. No Bentley no judon esk player. No barmore peppers we asking these back ups to step up and be better. With newly coaches. Give us better talent then. Judge these coaches. All of them need 1 more year. At least. If it's still this bad then yea consider firing guys
@larryprimeau588512 күн бұрын
Nothing will help Mayo.
@dmgthree605112 күн бұрын
Worst idea I ever heard!
@asid44811 күн бұрын
Who cares? Get rid of the owner...he's the real problem! The whole franchise is a dumpster fire! Kraft in the HOF? 😂😂 Brady and BB are the ONLY reasons for any success this franchise has had! 27th in payroll during his ownership is not worthy of SH*T!
@dwayneroberts661612 күн бұрын
Fire the Krafts😂 they created this BS!
@leesanville137212 күн бұрын
THE PATRIOTS WILL HAVE 1 PRO BOWL PLAYER - GONZO --- AND HE WON'T BE STARTER. THATS IT. WORST ROSTER/COACHING STAFF IN THE NFL
@lilerb131312 күн бұрын
This "over lord " crap is stupid. Get a real coach!!!!!!!
@psault4711 күн бұрын
Wolf is horrible and should be fired other than May last year’s draft was a complete waste
@FantasySportsZen12 күн бұрын
Laughable.
@dwayneroberts661612 күн бұрын
Best option fire the entire coaching staff and GM. Bring in a real GM and hire a OC from someone like the Bill's as HC. You kill two birds with one stone you weaken a divisional opponent coaching staff and improve yours. Hiring anyone in the BB coaching tree is stupid! You wanted to move on from BB but keep his system it's not happening. Go get an offensive minded coach and a great defensive coordinator it's not rocket science it's money. Money that Kraft has as chump change. He just needs to stop being cheap walk away from the BB coaching tree and go get a offensive minded coach.
@tonystarks772212 күн бұрын
Eliot wolf free agents and draft class have been a disaster, besides drake maye ,