This is simply compatibility madness. What's even crazier is that the worst pencil is the only one that works with the entire iPad lineup.
@AliAbidalkareem4 ай бұрын
So Apple pencil 2 doesnt work with ipad air 13 M2 ?
@rthilson4 ай бұрын
@@AliAbidalkareem no
@mvp_kryptonite4 ай бұрын
Absolute madness. Apple are in the mud. Just have one pencil for every iPad. Why have they got themselves and their target market in a twist
@Shutafff_RBLX16 күн бұрын
@@mvp_kryptonitethey made the first apple pencil a long time ago and they need to make better ones cuz they get outdated but they cant just discontinue the original one because of the old iPads that use it
@ArtyWvideos4 ай бұрын
What I still can’t understand is why Apple still limits its pencil just to iPads. Why not just allow it to be used on an enhanced trackpad, for tasks like Freeform drawing on the desktop. Or as a complete wacom tablet alternative for illustrators. Perhaps then there would be even more reason for us to consider upgrading to the Pencil Pro.
@jerryy55683 ай бұрын
The reason why not is bc for the same reason why you upgraded to the pro instead of they’re gonna make more pencils so you could just buy it and add that feature attached to it
@OozukaMai4 ай бұрын
An apple pencil with pressure sentivity and usb c charging would make things so muhc easier
@CrizzX4 ай бұрын
The Apple Pencil (Gen 2) not working with the M4 is wild 🐬
@Omarlldn4 ай бұрын
Such BS honestly. Makes no sense especially that there’s barely any difference to this & the latest.
@TamasKiss-yk4st4 ай бұрын
Some features require better distance/angle/rotation tracking between the devices, and devices with Apple U1 chip (Ultra-Wide Band chip) less accurate like the newer U2 chip. Everything between iPhone 11 and Vision Pro had the U1 chip, and you need both device with U2 chip to enable some features. If they explain this, it's much less of a nightmare, users realize the reason why they can't get the same feature with M2 chip what other M2 device have, because it's depends on U1/U2 chips not on the CPU..
@TCinSoCal4 ай бұрын
Yeah.. not happy about this. I
@Austinfdp3 ай бұрын
@@Omarlldnthey said it is a difference the camera placement😭😭 so unfair i have to buy a new pencil just because apple didnt want to find another way to make it work
@AlexBAlixir984 ай бұрын
🐬 Thanks Fernando. I just finally brought Apple Pencil 2 a few weeks ago. 🤷🏻♂️ for my iPad. Didn’t expect I’d need to upgrade the Pencil if I get a new IPad Air. Thanks explaining what pencils work with which devices. Apple has made a mess here
@fakebobbyhill296Ай бұрын
I don’t understand why apple pencil 3 doesn’t have pressure sensitivity. I bought one just to find out is no good for drawing at all!
@svvancouver33072 ай бұрын
Apple’s contribution to the landfill.
@tyrishasmith-grady7034 ай бұрын
I have the iPad 9th generation with the 1st gen Apple Pencil so it’s a great device.
@empressmileenakahnummkxl3 ай бұрын
My current and only iPad is the 12.9 Inch (2nd Generation) running 64 GB (Space Gray) Wifi + Cellular with the 1st Generation Apple Pencil. I’m still able to get all the latest updates. So for me, at least for now, there’s no need to switch to anything new. 1st generation Apple Pencil is a pain to charge, the cap coming off all the time is also a pain, but other than that I love it. I’m an artist and i don’t mind having to manually switch between colors and nodes etc on my artistry apps. Fine by me🤗🤗🤗🤗
@OozukaMai4 ай бұрын
I'll probably buy the 10th gen ipad with the price drop now for art and i think the only one thats suits me is the 1st gen one and charging that seems like such a pain and inconvenience.
@tyrishasmith-grady7034 ай бұрын
It’s a good pencil
@kartikpareek-nn4fb4 ай бұрын
Charges quickly the only problem is that it rolls on the table
@HaleyFromToronto2 ай бұрын
I LOVE procreate, but HATE how Apple always discontinues their freaking stuuuuuuuff. I have a 9th gen ipad and I'm like STOP making new ones just do software updates ETA: I also have a Samsung tablet, which doesnt hold a charge as long as the ipad....BUT if I could get procreate on my android i would
@salma-R100Ай бұрын
@@HaleyFromToronto same!!!!!
@barron2044 ай бұрын
I’m still using my iPad Pro 9.7 (2016) daily and the 1st Gen pencil is what I need to use for drawing. It is priced at $140 USD where I live.
@konekotron4 ай бұрын
What’s not to understand about why someone would get a gen 1? They have an older iPad and they need a replacement. My 8th gen only supports that one.
@marx11224 ай бұрын
ass you said, I already have the gen 1 with a iPad 8, now I upgrade to iPad 10, because its the best option if you have to use pression sensitive, actually without waste more money reusing my current pencil, only needed bought a usb c adapter on AliExpress for 2 dollars and it works perfectly, even I can charge my pencil directly on the iPad without any cable or connected on the charger directly haha its better than the official adapter and cheaper.
@konekotron3 ай бұрын
@@marx1122 nice to hear! So it seems there are yet use cases for this older pencil after all!
@215juliusgirl3 ай бұрын
Yes, well, we’ve seen how much Apple cares about us “frugal” “practical or “middle class” device owners. A company that prices its professional devices so largely above the average person’s price range, from $6000 desktops to $4000 macbooks to $1200 tablets and $1500 phones, not to mention, if you want a keyboard with your tablet, there’s another $3-400 plus $120 for the pencil, and $200 for the 2 year warranty/apple care, and $30-80 for the case, $35 per month for the news/apple tv/cloud which is over $400 and is really just for the icloud space and a little news. Then having to update each device every 3 to 4 years when they start lagging, falling apart, or become incompatible with products…. Just for a pro level tablet (if you saw what other companies offer you’d be horrified but once you are Apple you’re apple even though ive had to use a Samsung 8 since i lost my stupid iphone 13maxpro phone which is in my apartment so i refuse to spend $ on another) that would be about $2300. And significantly more if you want any memory. It’s just like how they just hot in trouble for introducing new versions of ios that wouldn’t download on older phones they knew that a lot of people were still using, thereby forcing them to get a new phone or deal with apps that don’t work, lag times, and decreased security. I still buy it but every time I do I feel a little dirty. And I certainly cannot afford more than the ipad air 5 i just grabbed from Amazon on an installment plan for memorial day ($549 256gb… pretty good. The only one that wasn’t just “ipad” ive ever had.)
@carolfoote67573 ай бұрын
Just Writing and touch functions. There would be less fingerprint mark.
@billjames80484 ай бұрын
The first Apple Pencil is good for iPad Pros. The Gen 2 Pencil is good for newer iPads Pros. There was a shock when the first Pencil was replaced but people had calmed down when they found out that they could charge their pencil on their iPads. Then Apple opened up the Gen 1 Pencil to more iPads and the Gen2 for iPad Pros people were upset over the cost, Apple introduced a lower cost, basic Pencil which covered a multitude of iPads. Now, there's a new Pencil for a new series of iPads and history repeats itself. It is only good for users who want more choices and a limited amount of iPads because of the on devices charging and now this one has Find My on it so you won't misplace it. It is just an inflection point and next year, more iPads will be able to take the advantage.
@hilal_younus4 ай бұрын
I honestly believe apple did two critical mistakes that led to this mess: 1- removing Pressure sensitivity for USB-C Apple Pencil. 2- Naming the new pencil as "Apple Pencil Pro", when it should've been the 3rd Generation, which would've made sense (I'll explain further below). The Apple Pencil 1st gen is pretty easy to understand in terms of compatibility. If you're ipad is- - A pro model with rounded edges - The "iPad" that's from 2018, and later (including 10th gen) - iPad Air & Mini from 2019 and later which have rounded edges. Then this is the pencil you should go for. The 2nd gen ipad follows a similar pattern. If your iPad is: - Flat edged ipad Pro/Air (before 2024) - Other Flat edged ipads excluding the default "iPad" The USB-C Apple Pencil is like the first generation pencil, but with USB-C. It honestly should've been named "Apple Pencil for USB-C (iPads)", because that is what it is. It's compatible with every USB-C iPad, which can also be identified by their flat edges. The only downside (an arbitrary one tbh) is that it lacks pressure sensitivity. It does have "pencil hover" which I'll come to a bit later... The Pencil Pro is only compatible with the latest ipad Pros and Airs, and vice-versa. Thus, its fitting that it's called the 3rd generation apple pencil. (It follows precedent set in 2018, when 2nd gen apple pencil was released alongside 2018 ipad pros (11" 1st gen, and 12.9" 3rd gen). ) - Apple Pencil Hover is supported if your ipad has M2 chip. So, that's like the previous iPad pro(12.9" 6th gen, and 11" 4th gen) , and the newly released ones. All in all, a mess that could've easily been avoided by apple if they resisted cutting costs, and putting "pro" in everything. I mean, this isn't the only thing they messed up, the whole mac configs is a mess, your average joe will have FOMO, because the Macbook Airs were just updated 8 weeks ago with the M3 (And M4 already released). Atleast its getting better compared to last year, we're getting better base storage.
@mohammednagshabandi3 ай бұрын
I just don’t understand why the usb c one doesn’t support pressure It would have been the good budget friendly option
@9to5Mac3 ай бұрын
You and me both 🤷♂️
@hermes82582 ай бұрын
@@9to5Mac I think the answer to every question like this is simple: "because Apple makes more money this way"
@MrJuanca3264 ай бұрын
super helpful video! Thank you
@picnicphoto4 ай бұрын
I own a 1 and 2, I draw very basically but use the Pencil daily for notes, pdf edits, photo edits, etc---I just want the 2 to work with my 12.9 Pro Ipads (USBc). I have a Mini 5 so occasionally use the 1 to take notes on the Mini. So---good reason not to buy the M4 Ipad Pro--I am mostly concerned with having a 12.9" and don't really need what the M4 offers, M1 still working great.
@WestFirstBooks4 ай бұрын
My thoughts is Apple should give a little back and even if making the iPad a little thicker the stylus should fit inside the iPad like the s pen on Samsung. Or even in the magic keyboard
@mikipav106423 күн бұрын
I'm still confused... I'm planning on buying the current iPad Air (6th generation, M2 Chip) and i still don't understand if the Apple Pencil 2. generation will actually work with it or if i really have to buy the more expensive Pencil Pro. Some sources say it is compatible, others say it isn't. Can somebody please explain?
@anisha45722 күн бұрын
@@mikipav1064 If you are student buy the iPad from Apple Store. There’s educational discount going rn. You will get an Apple gift card worth of $140 if you buy iPad Air 6. And the price of Apple Pencil pro is 159 something so you can buy the pencil with that gift card, maybe you just need to spend 10-20 bucks extra.
@tremroy176620 күн бұрын
@@mikipav1064 no according to apple support compatibility list the Apple Pencil 2nd generation is compatible with iPad mini (6th generation) iPad Air (4th or 5th generation) iPad Pro 12.9-inch (3rd, 4th, 5th, or 6th generation) iPad Pro 11-inch (1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th generation). The newest IPad Air (M2) works with Apple Pencil(USB-C), and Apple Pencil pro
@sam-uc7zq4 ай бұрын
The very comparison that I needed. Thaaaaank you sir.
@Csrmonster4 ай бұрын
pencil pro literally looks super cool!
@yippiecalle4214 ай бұрын
I’m wondering how the Alternative Apple Pencil market will improve now that we have the Apple Pencil Pro.
@TwistedFoo17 күн бұрын
Thank you sooo much! This really helped me out. I got the 10th gen ipad. I decided the Apple Pencil 1st gen is the best for me! I really wanted the pressure sensitivity. That is far more valuable than being able to attach the pen magnetically or charge it way, which is why the usb C one was a no go for me. I also don't care about the usb c dongle it has, it's not that weird to me at least as it is to you. I charge everything with usb c, I just plan on charging this with what I have already. Not really seeing the need of having it connected to the ipad like you do just to say how awkward it is. I also found it strange to change the pencil by sticking it into the port itself like the older one did, that's just asking for me to bump into it and destroy the plug 😅 really wish they had apple pencil pro that was compatible with everything, but no 😑
@VioletMayra8 күн бұрын
Rad info. This helped out a lot!
@troigrl4 ай бұрын
So my Apple Pencil gen 1 won’t work with the new iPad Pro coming out?
@davidcrane42263 ай бұрын
No 😢
@dallasjhaws3 ай бұрын
Thank you! This was very helpful and concise! Thanks for helping me navigate the craziness of the compatibility craziness 😝
@andyisyoda26 күн бұрын
Nice job 🐬
@Thunsegen4 ай бұрын
This video was useful. Thank you! 🐬
@9to5Mac4 ай бұрын
You're so welcome!
@Theinspirationalrogue3 ай бұрын
I have a knock off from Amazon for $27, looks just like the original Apple Pencil. Does about 90% of the original.
@krissiemissano70782 ай бұрын
Thank you for a clean cut direct informative video!! 🐬
@lylezane378315 күн бұрын
I got an m2 ipad air last month with the usb c apple pencil because I will only use it for note taking
@tachowar3 ай бұрын
great explanation fernando. you aswered all my questions.
@morningraindrops4 ай бұрын
To me, it doesn’t make sense that the Apple USB-C Apple Pencil supports hover on the iPad Pro 2. Why have hover feature that doesn’t have pressure support? Yes, I know it’s not for drawing, but still. I’m sticking with the 1st gen Apple Pencil as long as I can. It gets everything done.
@macaroongaming557910 күн бұрын
only one works for mine, the first gen bc it’s the only one compatible to my ipad
@RH1TE_4 ай бұрын
The fact that the pro pencil doesn’t work with the M1 Pro which came out in 2021 is a joke. Investors - ‘Tim our iPad sales have dropped we need people to buy more iPads!’ Tim- ‘Okay let’s make a new pro pencil which only the new lineup of iPads can use!’ Engineer - ‘But what about that magnetic strip, can’t they charge it on there? Tim - ‘Fk it, let’s move the camera so they can’t and will have to buy a new iPad’ RIP to all my m1 iPad Pro brethrens who only want it for procreate
@darlenesutton293615 күн бұрын
I’m a new graphic design student that is needing a stylus for my iPad Air m1 that has pressure sensitivity and palm rejection. Any suggestions would be appreciated!
@Goofydog-gl8nj25 күн бұрын
🐬 helpful video bro, just made my shopping 100% easier
@rdavis463 ай бұрын
I just bought the iPad Pro 13 M4 in space black with the black keyboard and Apple Pencil pro. I used my iPad Pro 5th generation 12.9 to reduce my cost of the new ipad. So I was wondering if I buy the iPad Air 13 M4 for my daughter would the iPad Pro Magic Keyboard fit that one as I know it won’t fit the new iPad Pro 13in 2024 just unsure if it would fit the iPad Air 13 M4 2024. I would like to give her my apple Magic Keyboard that I used for iPad Pro 12.9 I know the Apple Pencil 2nd generation won’t fit either the iPad Air or iPad Pro M4. It’s like you have to buy the newest things when the old ones are in perfect shape. Why doesn’t apple website allow you to buy the last iPad Pro or iPad Air once they put up there new line up?
@kiky4363 ай бұрын
unfortunately the 12.9" Keyboard wont work with the M4 13", meaning you'll have to buy a new keyboard for it
@sho3021Ай бұрын
I have M1 ipad pro, which apple pencil should I get for drawing? Please help. Thank you
@shahinmoshtagh695517 күн бұрын
Great video
@usharohith2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video🐬
@jeupii4 ай бұрын
🐬 thanks but still confused...
@PatrickPitso3 ай бұрын
If you are coming from iPhone 6s, 7 or 8 / Plus or X, Then iPhone 11 is a great upgrade. This is the first iPhone besides Xs to have 4GB of ram 🐏 which is great for multitasking. I strongly recommend no less than 128GB. If you are coming from iPhone XR, don’t get 11. Trade in or Push to get a iPhone 12. It introduces MagSafe and 5G.
@paulblack99314 ай бұрын
🐬 Time to spend on a new Apple Pencil Pro for my purchase of new M2 IPad Air (instead of keeping my Pencil 2)🤦
@JJchoi-ml2keАй бұрын
@@paulblack9931 Hi, I'm still quite confusing about these pencils and like to buy Air 11" M2 model. Does not fit with an apple pencil 2? 😱
@paulblack9931Ай бұрын
@@JJchoi-ml2keApple Pencil 2 (2nd Gen) will not work with new M2 IPad Pro 11-inch. The Apple Pencil Pro is the correct pencil to get
@bioinfo34 ай бұрын
Will the new Apple Pencil Pro have any functionality with the iPad mini 6? I know it’s not listed as compatible with it but will it work at all? Or attach to the side?
@TamasKiss-yk4st4 ай бұрын
For iPad Mini 6 you better to buy an older pencil, the newer pencil already use the Apple U2 chip (Ultra-Wide Band Chip), but the iPad Mini 6 (basically every device before Vision Pro) still only had Apple U1 chip, that is less accurate and also mussing some feature, so for the new features both of your device must have the U2 chip, U1 devices work better with U1 devices (technically U2 should work as an U1 too, it's compatible so it's still capable to send data with Air Drop between 2 devices with different chips). But on their home page you can check which one works with which models.
@Amanda-po9xe3 ай бұрын
Obviously in a few years they will only sell the Apple Pencil usb-c and the Apple Pencil pro... One basic for those who only want a pencil and one pro for those who want more. The only reason they still sell the second gen is because of the mini, and when they update the mini it will only work with the usb-c/pro pencil. And the first Apple Pencil will soon disappear because why keep it, it's outdated.
@omeribrahim3569Ай бұрын
I had iPad Pro 12.9 inch is it going to work with pro pencil..?
@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx44 ай бұрын
Should’ve drop the Apple Pencil gen 1
@HearMeLearn4 ай бұрын
yeah I have no idea why it's still being sold. I don't believe it's even compatible with any iPad they sell other than the cheapest one, but even then the usb c apple pencil makes more sense since it's cheaper and more convenient. Stupid decision on apple's part. Maybe they still sell it a lot to people with iPads that can only use that pencil
@OozukaMai4 ай бұрын
@@HearMeLearn Apple Pencil gen 1 is the only one with pressure sensitivity on cheapest iPad a feature super useful for artists.
@tyrishasmith-grady7034 ай бұрын
Yes, they should but if you have the iPad 10th gen or lower than you have no choice but to get the 1st gen
@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx44 ай бұрын
@@OozukaMai Apple would rather you spend more money for an iPad Air instead
@OozukaMai4 ай бұрын
@@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4 The iPad air with the same storage 256gb would cost me like 70% more. Simply too expensive.
@SteveDion2 ай бұрын
I'm afraid the USB Prencil will be dead when i need to use it. The Pro is constantly ready as it's stored and charged.
@JeskidoYT3 ай бұрын
ah sounds like the confusion during the ipod days
@MrJPVERCETTI3 ай бұрын
Hey, I have a question, to use the Apple Pencil USB-C do I need to always have it connected to the iPad with the USB-C cable?
@TheTeza3 ай бұрын
not always from what ive figured, just when charging and connecting it for the first time
@MrJPVERCETTI3 ай бұрын
@@TheTeza hey! Thanks for the reply. I decided to go for the Apple Pencil Pro instead 😬
@TheTeza3 ай бұрын
@@MrJPVERCETTI thats my dilemma still..Im thinking whether to get the new air and a pro pencil or 10th gen and usb-c pencil
@MrJPVERCETTI3 ай бұрын
@@TheTeza I got the 11 inch iPad Air M2 and the Apple Pencil Pro. For my needs it's more than enough. However, I'm very used to use devices with at least 120hz and I find it kinda frustrating to see the Air only have 60hz :( I'd say if you can spare the extra cash get the Air and the Pencil Pro. I'm sure those devices will be very compatible with the newest software features that will come later (those AI features, for example).
@kinggkongg96943 ай бұрын
🐬 Thanks bro that was informative
@9to5Mac3 ай бұрын
Any time!
@nathankeysis66024 күн бұрын
Did we go full circle
@davidcrane42263 ай бұрын
Makes me appreciate my 1st gen pencil even more😂🤷🏾♂️
@Austinfdp3 ай бұрын
Yeah cuz it might only be used on base ipads until its gone. I will not buy a new pencil since this one from 2015 still works good
@ElNeverin3 ай бұрын
So I have a 9th generation ipad but I want to draw in it should I get the usb or generation 1?
@davidareyouhumanАй бұрын
@@ElNeverin generation 1 is the only one that supports 9th gen ipad
@brunoadame46674 ай бұрын
I didn’t know you were part of 9 to 5 Mac!
@The_s_d4 ай бұрын
the apple pencil dock should have moved to the smaller portrait side. so pencil 2 and pencil pro would run on the new ipad air, m2 ipad pro m4 AND on older ipads AND older pencils would function on the ne iPads. But Apple did the other way
@215juliusgirl3 ай бұрын
How like Apple to give us extra tips and chargers in the first generation and take them away in the next generations. iPhone charger, anyone? And a question to got with this: I just got an ipencil 2 after using the first one for years. I have 3 or 4 tips for that. Are they interchangeable?
@TheLifeOnHigh18 күн бұрын
My $129 Apple Pencil 2 has more features than the funky Apple Pencil usbc yet Apple chose to make it obsolete for the new 2024 iPads. It’s not even compatible with the 2024 iPad Airs 😡
@Wogger13 ай бұрын
I’m gonna go out and get a pencil pro
@iatia884 ай бұрын
Thx 🙏🏻 🐬
@Ciangi874 ай бұрын
What Apple should have done was trade in discount for new accessories. But Apple knows we will complain then give in and buy new accessories
@babufits15844 ай бұрын
Has anyone actually TESTED to see if 2nd gen doesn't work with the new iPads? The new air and the last pro models have the exact same chips, so it should still have full functionality except for charging (which can be fixed with a $14 dongle) Conversely the same should be true if you have an m2 pro model and you just want the new pencil. Either apple is lying or they really went out of their way to screw customers.
@israrshethwala60604 ай бұрын
Yess I have iPad Pro M2 and I want to buy Apple pencil Pro but can't be compatible with my iPad... Any Tech influencer should test this
@EeveeLO64 ай бұрын
Apple Pencil 2nd gen is not compatible with M4 iPads, I just received mine today.
@israrshethwala60604 ай бұрын
@@EeveeLO6 and what about Apple Pencil pro with ipad pro m2?
@Austinfdp3 ай бұрын
Chip dont matter they changed the charging area... people will never understand things apple tell us from the video explaining it
@Austinfdp3 ай бұрын
@@israrshethwala6060dont work
@kdub68983 ай бұрын
Total madness
@sheakeith8321Ай бұрын
🐬
@gynnoxАй бұрын
Green company that creates a ton of trash... what a liars. I still have my 2nd generation Apple Pencil in perfect condition. I wanted to switch from an iPad mini to something a bit bigger, and now I have to buy the entire set again? No, thanks.
@JimmyJump08614 ай бұрын
No it's not for me. To many gimics and way to expesive. At the end of the day it just an over hyped stylus. Theyre are other that exist that give you the same end result.