My biggest gripe with top tier is the excessive amount of players with too many powerful weapons. That makes matches end very quickly for one side or the other. It's very rare to get those moments in which you get to actually experience your plane's performance. We are flying very advanced aircraft in top tier and we rarely get to use them. Slinging missiles around is the same since the first Aim-9B, just with more flexibility. Actually dogfighting on a top tier jet is a whole different world from a 7.0 jet. Top tier should be 6v6 or 8v8. 16v16 works much better with props or earlier jets...
@zackwaffen9210 Жыл бұрын
my biggest gripe is putting a mig 21 against a f16. BR's are wack
@Jaeger_89 Жыл бұрын
@@zackwaffen9210 Yeah...there is THAT as well lmao
@creepincreepy261 Жыл бұрын
@@zackwaffen9210 it's historically accurate
@ThePeache07 Жыл бұрын
I miss the days of F86 vs Mig 15 gun dogfights, I remember entire teams all low to the deck and once hitting 1000km/h we all just zoomed straight up for altitude. It felt meaningful to get a kill and so rewarding outplaying. but now its just lock missle send missle lol free kill
@ItsBodin Жыл бұрын
I mean thats more or less how these aircraft where designed, superior weapons and great performance when the need arises
@RookVR_ Жыл бұрын
For someone who’s most advanced jet is the f80-A, this was very helpful information Edit: now I have the F86 Sabre 😳 (still not top tier)
@quan-uo5ws Жыл бұрын
You are good my most advanced jet is the la-7
@Coping_eagle Жыл бұрын
I was in that position 1 month ago. Now the information is sort of usefull
@-RandomDudeOnYoutube- Жыл бұрын
Mine is the sabre and the f80c but am 140k RP from the f104a so not for long
@monke2676 Жыл бұрын
@@-RandomDudeOnKZbin-104 is so fun u will like it
@dreakes-1818 Жыл бұрын
@@monke2676fun in low tier, because of those fcking mig21 I can't dodge their missiles
@MegaJani Жыл бұрын
3:19 Can we appreciate just how cinematic that headon was? That's an Oscar
@z.ace.4410 ай бұрын
2 jets, 2 missiles, dodged
@aceofthunder9868 Жыл бұрын
Damn this was 100 percent straightforward and useful, when i first got top tier I assumed it was just slinging missles at people and instantly getting kills but after playing a bit i realized it takes a lot more know-how than i thought.
@tino897Ай бұрын
Theoretically it is just that. Problem is you need to learn how evade said missiles and that the enemy does know how to evade. Early radar missiles and mid ones are kinda iffy if the enemy isn’t stupid. Late ones ? Well then there isn’t much. Like you said there is a lot to learn but not too far off. Major is how to survive, the rest is gonna come naturally
@yeetboiaug9615 Жыл бұрын
Tips for premiums: Tip for F4S players: The plane is great, you are not Don't bomb. U will only bomb on stock grind If you really want to, ccrp bomb toss but still wouldn't recommend Its best to learn combat Low fly and pop sparrows off bore at phantoms and tornados Learn the radar Tips for Mig23ML: Fly low Use the r24T on enemies within 5km. Thats the best time. 4km if they are going away from you but always make sure u are gaining on them in that scenario. Use IRST Su39+A6: Shouldn't have bought it
@plat216 Жыл бұрын
"plane is great, you are not" this is way too accurate, never seen a f4s or mig23ml player that has a K/D more than 1
@harryford834011 ай бұрын
I grinder to 5.0 and just decided to buy the f4s so that it is easier. Wish me luck the radar is complicated for me on controller
@jackspinner194511 ай бұрын
I’m level 50 and got sick of the grind so I got the f4 when it was on sale. I have low jets but nothing higher. Thank you for the tips
@finnm.258211 ай бұрын
I disagree on the SU-39 and A6, they are very useful in Ground RB. The Vichr ATGMs shred everything and the Mercury Pod is one of the best pods in game. The A-6 can also unleash havoc with laser guided bombs but not as good as the SU-39. I have the SU-39 in my ground RB 11.7 Deck as the only plane and I really don’t want to miss it.
@Railfannerfuture7 ай бұрын
Ong but I'm slightly getting better it's just the radar is the problem @@harryford8340
@Viper31300 Жыл бұрын
Gaijin needs to remake top tier jet game layouts. Bigger maps, spread out objectives, multiple spawn points and different areas where the two teams merge. Make it more similar to Sim battles with realistic countries and slightly shorter ferry times. Having 40 planes go to the same spot makes the game a very unrealistic experience.
@MatthewTheCount11 ай бұрын
tf u mean bigger maps they have already made maps bigger and the only thing making maps bigger is gonna do is prolong the furbal please dont sugjest this dont give them ideas
@sirius_solaris9 ай бұрын
@@MatthewTheCount bigger maps are MUCH better as long as there are multiple spawn points. The main issue is everybody spawns and repairs in the same place.
@charisardmegax Жыл бұрын
5:38 : "Also a lot of these people throw missiles at you from far to close" After immediately disintegrating a mig-29 with a 9L in a flick head-on shot
@Codysage98 Жыл бұрын
I wish they would add like a 2v2, 4v4 duel mode, something that's not an absolute cluster**** every game
@AwolMedal273 ай бұрын
Yes! I would love to see that. Especially with these su27 and f16s.
@jortsijtsma1157 Жыл бұрын
Hey man i'm a new war thunder player, me and my brother play it a lot last few days and are loving it. Thanks for the videos on it, i like them a lot and learn a lot from them, even though i am only at tier 3 and now where near jets i still like the videos because of how relaxing you are to listen to, keep up the good work :)
@imainhunter Жыл бұрын
absolutely agree with your points. also because of the way top tier is rn, playing with a squad is much more beneficial if you wanna play more consistantly cuz tbh i died a lot because my team is full of people trying to bomb bases and not because my team died first
@Cam64viper9 ай бұрын
@imainhunter do you main hunter?
@OskarSharns Жыл бұрын
One more tip how to dodge radar missles you need constantly turn left-right for like 15 degrees on each side, radar missile will change its direction and be a lot slower, so you can dodge it
@gendarmerielosblancos4395 Жыл бұрын
Turning like that will also slow you down which makes you an easier target for the missile
@theapexdragon5010 Жыл бұрын
@@gendarmerielosblancos4395the middle slows down a lot more than you do so it's a balancing act.
@ayanamikai Жыл бұрын
@@gendarmerielosblancos4395 missiles launched on high range, both ARH and SARH would really be countered well by moving in "snake" pattern. if anything, while the plane has no trouble sustaining its own energy since it has a lot of fuel unlike 3-5seconds of booster burn on missiles, missile has it very strictly limited. and by making it adjust the trajectory all the time you just make it lose all the speed and be incapable of hitting you.
@pengudengu5947 Жыл бұрын
Ah thx brother
@HMSNeptun Жыл бұрын
Unless it's a R27ER
@ab123110 Жыл бұрын
One thing I would like to add for new players is that at low altitude you should be using DP on your radar. There is more nuance than that vs the other modes but that should help out a lot. When I first started playing high tier I had no idea what those modes ment and how to use them. I found it very hard to get a radar lock. Now that I know what they do my 0 kills turn into 1-2, sometimes XD EDIT: Keybinds I find better Lock target = R WASD = Movement (inverted pitch) Shift\CTRL = Throttle Scroll = Fine-tune throttle
@BlockyRaptor Жыл бұрын
Been taking a break from top tier, legit forgot this game can be fun
@Supershade9421 Жыл бұрын
Real. I usually take out the p51 and try to dogfight with it. That thing will do anything if you treat it right.
@cannedgoose32598 ай бұрын
If I may add a point: Know OTHER planes as well. Know what missiles they have, know what their ranges are, what their G-limits are. Learn how far away they can spot/track you, learn how many missiles they can carry and how many rounds they have in the gun. If you can use that knowledge in a fight, you can make them waste their ammo by outflying and outgunning them.
@Bombert54 Жыл бұрын
I know that feeling when you cant radar lock that 1 target you want so painfully much
@pythonzzzz Жыл бұрын
F82ETWINMUSTANG Here, nice video about top tier, I see I was in the kill feed for your Team play clip. Nice!
@nau7ilus Жыл бұрын
Of course my internet decides to cut out right after I see a new Joob video 16 seconds ago - what forbidden knowledge is he teaching?
@gerkadas Жыл бұрын
W skin on mig-29. Based youtuber
@nightnovis3 ай бұрын
can't believe mig-29 used to turns like that before gaijin nerf it
@rustiiiee57410 ай бұрын
Honestly.... thanks for these tips! I spent the past 4 hours trying to dive onto my targets with my Phantom 2 with no luck. Definitely going to try hugging the ground.
@agniusbaltaitis561511 ай бұрын
5:25 knowing only your plane doesnt help, you have to know your enemy vehicles as well, their equipment and differences between these planes: one is always gonna be a bit faster/more maneuverable/greater acceleration/or just have more guns and after comparing all that, only then youre safe enaugh to go
@HasvenWorld4 ай бұрын
It'd still be nice to know your plane too. What good is knowing how someone throws a punch if you don't even know how to yourself?
@cabousplayzyt7588 Жыл бұрын
the reasen why people bomb in top tier is because its the fastest way to max your modifications
@sppoopyirishsonny1104 Жыл бұрын
great tips m8, ps love the the Ukraine camo for ur MiG-29
@JackInTraining7 ай бұрын
I do love the tip of playing as a fighter with prem planes. I run the tram with 3 Aim9L and one cannon, I get just as many kills with the cannon as I do the missiles and because of that when I got the F5E I had already learned proper aiming and tactics
@JustMinna Жыл бұрын
Step 1: Play the glorious nation of Isreal Step 2: Only use the glorious Python 3 missile Step 3: Use all your shekels on Israeli premiums
@netaeylon9499 Жыл бұрын
פאקס
@gendarmerielosblancos4395 Жыл бұрын
Eretz Israel!!
@play3rggg Жыл бұрын
8:19 Well thats a loud noise
@Shhhhhhidkyou8 ай бұрын
Tip for f4s(works for me 24/7) take 6 aim 7s . Climb high if downtier or your own tier.if not stay low.take out anyone trying to get higher or on par with you.then switch to search PD and snipe jas 35 and mig 23 ml.i always end up with a 2 to 4 kill game
@basil_burrito Жыл бұрын
1:53 Did he... did he just J'd out to not give the kill? What a sweathard 💀
@seadragonyt53916 ай бұрын
I do this when I’m in a bad mood.
@chipper9178 Жыл бұрын
Biggest tip I can give for your guns is just play Realistic no vertical targeting and when diving on someone or lining a shot up look at their plane the whole time don’t take your eyes off and only use your peripheral to match your crosshair in the direction of your target and let just a few rounds off as you pass each other I get more kills with my guns in any jet also don’t do head ons if you do just burst and move right away
@remcodevries536 Жыл бұрын
i'd also say that when you reach 11.0 know where most planes go on the maps, you then can anticipate where they'll come from
@silni7 Жыл бұрын
The reason some people bomb in top tier is to spade the plane, and that is the easiest with bombs. With most planes, you don't start with top tier missiles or have a good flight performance with stock plane to do anything in the game.
@LastGoatKnight Жыл бұрын
Though I'm not in top tier yet, I had the SL to buy myself a Squadron Premium so every help should come handy. Especially that I have no past experience with jets and as a casual F2P player I don't have that much time to spend so I can tap into the top of the iceberg. I will have to tune my senses to this new platform but during numerous test flights I have the basics already😅
@Rohan-qf4yj Жыл бұрын
At 7.0 or 8.0 sticking with your team can be the difference between a 2 v 4 or a 3 v 4 which can change what team wins
@imaginewinning5679 Жыл бұрын
W JOOB, INSANE OUTRO NEVER GETSZ OLD~!!!!!
@navalbrave4094 Жыл бұрын
10/10 this really helped me get my f4s ballin'
@Traxit Жыл бұрын
Hey bro, kinda new to your videos, but your tips are solid and so is the gameplay footage. Also thank you for introducing me to this bombass OST playing in the background.
@Flamer997 Жыл бұрын
I'm on UK and I had a look at the phantom II missiles and one set said this missile tends to not detonate or detonates too early, I thought that can't be right so I went into a game locked onto a target who didn't see me I'm only 2Kil away the missile is heading too him he doesn't activate flairs or move out the way, doesn't do anything to try and survive and my missile that has a range of 15K detonates a good distance from the jet, and now I'm like damn, I'm really flying with faulty missiles.
@chaff039 Жыл бұрын
thanks:) just got the f4j not to long ago so helps alot
@GoofballPaul7 ай бұрын
Telling me (prop player that just got a br 10.7 jet via squadron vehicles) that I shouldn't climb is like telling a cat it can't throw things off the table. TToTT
@felixshetty4986 Жыл бұрын
New vid on how to not suck on flareless jets which face aim 9L's and r60m's...????
@kingghidorah8106 Жыл бұрын
for r60M you have to go away when you see something with those missiles, and if they launched a missile at you, ensure it's 2.5km away or more and start zig zagging. For aim9L there's no chance at all unless they launch it from side aspect and below 1km of distance. Same for R60M, you have to force a side aspect (diagonal at best) shot on head on and turn into the enemy that launched it without going into their guns.
@dorukartan7588 Жыл бұрын
@@kingghidorah8106 i dodged a 9L with mig-19S from rear aspect its generally unlikely tho but i cut the afterburner and pulled full elevator at all time and mig-19 can reteain energy so well i was pulling 13g while going 950km/h IAS constantly pilot blacked out but i dodged it barely then i killed that A-10
@ashen93818 ай бұрын
I cant be the only one that would greatly enjoy a separate mode that only allows bombs and rockets to be brought. Requiring the use of gunskill for Air to air. So many cool jets to dogfight in but youre rarely gunfighting.
@lookitsstalking8710 ай бұрын
One thing that I would like to add, its okay to bomb in TT if youre grinding for missiles. In the instance of my Su-27 having only 2 R-73 (which are considered the best ir missiles in the game, and oh boy they are its just not enough) as soon as you get your first Radar missiles like the R-27R or ET's then help your team. I see that many people understand the need to grind to be competetive. But once you are and you have the chance to be then help your team. P.S. Its also a lot more fun to go PVP then to attack and bomb bases all the time. Its a pain in the ass to learn it but its so fun once you do
@sirius_solaris9 ай бұрын
he did actually mention this for a split second. I always do the same, get the first bombs available, bomb bases until i get my first SARH and then PVP. Much better.
@Halinspark8 ай бұрын
I wish there was a more ground oriented game mode for aircraft that doesn't also require I play tanks or boats. Some days I just want to zip through some canyons, pop up, and wreck something important before ducking back behind a hill.
@datcheesecakeboi67458 ай бұрын
@@Halinspark not how top tier works outside of arcade but you dont wanna play top tier arcade
@liquidrider3 ай бұрын
Do you happen to have a keybindings video? Because dear god this is my biggest issue. The worse is when keybindings are overlapping one another. Great example is when my a2a lock on doesn't even trigger because I have some damn weapon select switched.
@kamikazespecialistАй бұрын
4:53 Mig-23 got sent back to dcs 💀
@LTUmade Жыл бұрын
very helpful, thank you!
@RM-xl1edАй бұрын
top tier is the subject of so much youtube WT content nowadays. Has everyone forgotten about the low/mid tiers? Those tiers are still hella fun to play, and you don't have to worry about getting domed by a missile fired from halfway across the map in those tiers
@sandrales986 ай бұрын
the way i grinded the usa tree and its imo a very good way is to take 5 rocket pods and 5 aim 7f and 2 aim 9h on the f4s then flay low and as fast as possible to the next base bomb it and right after turn around and act like a normal fighter... for just bombing bases you get 4-6k research with the jet and premium time and if you then get a couple kills and win the game it quickly gets 20k to even sometimes 30k research in 1 game and that makes the grinding pretty quickly and okay
@m1sz3lpl24 Жыл бұрын
Would be nice if you mentioned notching while talking about semi active missile dodging
@SCATXXV Жыл бұрын
I mean if they need this video, they probably have a long list to master before notching and for some aircraft the notch needs to be near perfect
@thomasjohnson81213 ай бұрын
The reason that radar missles crash into the ground is that they try to compensate for the target turning by cutting through your turning curve so if you angle down a bit when one is flying at you, you can make it overcompensate and fly into the ground.
@SenratoUmi3 ай бұрын
thats not what happens, when near the ground the ground acts like a mirror and makes the radar think you are lower than you actually are, in turn the missile tries going after that false target and hits the ground.
@thomasjohnson81213 ай бұрын
@@SenratoUmi Maybe if you are only using pulse radar but pulse Doppler radar filters out ground interference so it wouldn't see the reflection.
@stewy407511 ай бұрын
how do you bring up that list you keep bringing up during game play that tells you what everybody is flying or what plane they are in
@TheArakan9411 ай бұрын
Okay, so how do you get to "know my plane and weapons"? I guess I picked up something from playing and observing (F-4S, cca 200 missions) and I usually get 1, sometimes 2 kills but I still mostly have no idea why sometimes what appears to be a clear shot with sparrow simply misses :/ Watched several videos like this, even specifically about F-4S, but no one really explains this.
@sethschneider9764 Жыл бұрын
You gotta play the yak 23 man. It is insane. I got an 8 kill game with it today featuring 5v2 and 3v1 dogfights. Not sure if it was a skill issue on their part but they just couldn't hit me. Trust me man, you'll have a good time.
@yourdailyaveragemat7 ай бұрын
I really dont understand how flares work honestly. I activate like thousands of thoese when a missile is coming at me and yet i still get shot down, can someone please explain to me how to use them properly?
@JackKrauser28 Жыл бұрын
Joob, i have no top tier premiums, I have the F4C and the F4E, the F4C missiles are heinously bad, the F4E has slightly better missiles but is over tiered, how do i proceed with this? change grinding tree to another jet?
@cerealenjoyer3000 Жыл бұрын
F-5E is a bully because it has an extremely favourable matchmaker and it is an absolute beast. try to grind for that
@FXIIBeaver Жыл бұрын
The F-4C is extremely powerful at 10.0. The e is fine where it is 4th gen needs to move higher.
@Hadgerz Жыл бұрын
Yeah switch over to the F5E and then don't look back.
@diprosla592 Жыл бұрын
Well F5E is right now best grinder that you can get F2P so ye
@Panocek Жыл бұрын
If you intend to get to top tiers, you will need to research all lines anyway - without buying rank 7 premiums (F4S, A6) you will need to get at least single Strike aircraft as well. F-5E and F-8E are in matchmaking sweetspot, F-4J is okay, but like F-4E, faces uptiers constantly, though its better equipped to deal with them.
@_S1mba Жыл бұрын
i wonder how much top tier will change once better semi active radar/active radar missiles are in the game
@vortex862 Жыл бұрын
ok great video really educational but how tf does one play the marine tornado
@jsean13 Жыл бұрын
If they make a mode where everyone has to use their cockpit view only, it will solve many issues
@chipper9178 Жыл бұрын
They do it’s simulation battles but you have to have a joystick
@julianasche94949 ай бұрын
I Play Sim with Keyboard and mouse. Like in realistic
@AkiUwUx3 Жыл бұрын
DIdn't know my F-4S had Aim-9L's, thanks for telling me something that I was 100% sure it didn't have lol
@Pollyvx Жыл бұрын
what to do when i fly a 9.7 with no flares, no rockets and 200 rounds of a waterpistol ammo??
@KiRiTO72987 Жыл бұрын
You die
@Bacon_Slices Жыл бұрын
you dont play the plane
@Pollyvx Жыл бұрын
@@Bacon_Slices shut up
@Bacon_Slices Жыл бұрын
@@Pollyvx ??? Literally the only thing you can do
@Bacon_Slices Жыл бұрын
Just find something else to play
@apersondoingthings5689 Жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on the Corsair Mk2, it has no right at being at 2.7
@KiRiTO72987 Жыл бұрын
In regards to your advice about staying low to throw off radsr missiles, this does not work against a plane with pulse dopler radar as it isnt ass affected by groubd interference as refular radar is
@_Joob Жыл бұрын
Not true, it absolutely works against PD radar.
@przeterminator3453 Жыл бұрын
It works,but against missiles not the radar They just slam into the ground trying to hit where you would be
@sharkhunter644711 ай бұрын
Idk if you'll see this as this video is slightly old with quite a few comments, but I heard about people turning their engine off as a counter to some missiles. You said I should cut my thrust a bit so is turning the engine off excessive and speed bleeding or would this actually be rather handy
@afonsomessias845511 ай бұрын
It really depends on the missile. For non Irccm ones stopping the afterburner is enough, except for the more sensitive ones like the 9l, with those I reccomend also lowering your throttle to 30%. For irccm ones though, its almost impossible to flare them off from within 2km unless they are side or frontal aspect. There is a video on yt on how to dodge irccm missiles since it would take me too long to explain
@HengyOfficial Жыл бұрын
just got the harrier gr7 and needed a video like this thanks. also wondering in your opinion is the tornado f3 or harrier gr7 better?
@JackKrauser28 Жыл бұрын
Tornado, however the harrier can be a bully with the excessive amount of flares and Aim-9Ls
@kingghidorah8106 Жыл бұрын
@@JackKrauser28 the hypersonic gun is what brings me the attention the most
@Dustiervans20 Жыл бұрын
what about bomb runing to get for an example chff?
@boss939__ Жыл бұрын
if you have two different types of aam how do you select which one you want?
@Kesiter1239 ай бұрын
I Still watched this video knowing damn well the only "top tier" i have is a premium A-10
@EnteSuessSauer Жыл бұрын
6:54 F-4S gladly doesn't have aim9L's. Bombing is really efficient with this plane, just be sure to pick a couple of kills whilst flying to a base with your sparrows. I flew over 800 missions in this plane, mostly bombed bases but still average out a strong positive kd, especially in my latest 200 matches. If you buy this plane, please for the love of god don't go bombing on your first 100 missions, Joob is right on this one, a plane is no good if the pilot does not understand it's flight performance, radar, missiles etc.
@mavor101 Жыл бұрын
And this is why the F-14B is by far the best jet in the game right now. Tons of missiles for missile spam along with the only long range semi-active radar missiles in the game plus excellent flight performance and engines. Su-27 is going to make everyone realize how OP the tomcat has been for basically since it was released.
@_Joob Жыл бұрын
? Definitely does not have the only long range SARHS, unless you’re referring to the phoenixes, which are not SARHS. But those are poo poo, and only kill people who are AFK or asleep at the wheel. Otherwise yeah, it’s a good plane, but it’s definitely not OP at all. F-16 and the mig-29 are most definitely better by quite a bit.
@mavor101 Жыл бұрын
@@_Joob ah yea meant the Phoenixes. They have a good hit rate against anyone >100m off the floor (and not going cold/etc.. of course). It's dumb that only one plane in the game is given a tool like that while all other nations have nothing similar. Though of course having 6 sparrows and 2 9Ls is the better loadout. In top tier meta having a bunch of missiles you can spam out is important. Mig-29 having only 2 good missiles makes it much more difficult to have an impact besides getting your one or two kills.
@overlord19887 ай бұрын
Thats a like to your vid for that mig camo
@Bsebt Жыл бұрын
Is it equally detrimental as dedicated bombing to take only a few bombs and take a bunch of missles also? Or is that too in the middle to help either way? I'm new sorry
@trainman5747 Жыл бұрын
What song does joob use in his outro
@deanerysstormborn9792 Жыл бұрын
The bombing In top tier what about tornado gr1 they only have 2 aim9L’s so you kinda have to bomb tbh
@siHubson Жыл бұрын
Cool Skin you got there
@lucasrecor2224 Жыл бұрын
How do i not over G so easily and not black out i don't understand
@michaelurquidez5011 Жыл бұрын
what about the mig27, should i try to not bomb w it?
@vadyn5670 Жыл бұрын
Hey joob am I able to join your squadron?
@aaronho1914 Жыл бұрын
Me in 11.0 constantly being uptiered as I grind the event. I can tell ya that sticking low to the ground, just a couple meters above it, doesn't help against Phoenixs that the F14 launch from spawn if you don't notch them lmao
@Panocek Жыл бұрын
Phoenixes are still vulnerable to multipath propagation. Difference being, 50kg warhead have pretty big proximity fuse attached to it, thus AoE is significant. That and missile usually comes from above due to lofting, which makes more likely to meet the airframe. Still, Phoenix is one flying chonker thats easy to dodge and even if motor no longer burns, it has RWR screaming at you attached to it.
@nokes16 Жыл бұрын
Bombing a base is fine if you have stock bombs for example on the yak 141. It has 2 r60m which is a pretty terrible missile and is rather take out a base which is usually 2-3 times the research of a kill. Once you unlock good missiles you should never bomb though.
@simplyian122 ай бұрын
what about the su39 and su25k
@fallendownthestairs7687 Жыл бұрын
As I claw my way finally to the F4-J this has been super helpful :D
@timharnans Жыл бұрын
Same lol, I got 199,000 rp left
@Panocek Жыл бұрын
F-4J while I find to be "almost competitive" in 12.0 environment exactly due to top of the line Sparrows and early, but still functional PD radar, it does suffer from ATROCIOUS stock grind. So I'm afraid less sanity damaging might be strapping bombs and going base hunting until you get at least early Sparrow. You can also look up Jaek F-4S review, both planes are functionally identical
@timharnans Жыл бұрын
@@Panocek yeah, I just got it a few minutes ago and I unlocked countermeasures after maybe six battles only to discover chaff is useless
@Panocek Жыл бұрын
@@timharnans Chaff is situational, helps primarily with Search radar modes which are rarely used at top tier, but when notching, it can help with PD radars... sometimes. But fooling radar is one thing, fooling missile with CW seeker is another - these basically look for return from moving object, thats why even if you spoof radar with chaff, if you stay within illuminated area, missile will continue tracking. Easiest way of dealing with SARH missiles is, as mentioned, flying very low. But obviously, if enemy does that to you, that throws single advantage of F4J/S out the window - radar and radar guided missile, whats left are underwhelming IR missiles and airframe that can't dogfight.
@fallendownthestairs7687 Жыл бұрын
@@Panocek yep, have it spaded now, and trying to get kills with stock AIM-9D's and base bombing is pain, especially with R-27ERs zooming at you, but it actually is a lot of fun, and the Sparrows are quite satisfying - on the "almost competitive" - yes, very much cannot dogfight, but if you get people to attack you in a head on it can be quite satisfying
@martinmartin7424 Жыл бұрын
Any tips on the kurnass with the shit radar?
@lewislaws6770 Жыл бұрын
"once you get to top tier you shouldn't be bombing, you'll be better for your team as a fighter" yeah me grinding lgbs in my tornado gr1 aint exactly gonna be the best fighter
@antoniorodriguesfranco92485 ай бұрын
im still on biplanes , will i still watch the video , YES
@MHMimic9 ай бұрын
you said no bombing, but what if i am utter dogshit at missles, like, ive fired hundreds and never landed a hit ive never won a turn fight and i cant pvp
@loicalex Жыл бұрын
I'm between a 2.5 and 4 K/D ratio in props and early jets (best in jets), having a ton of fun. I just can't play effectively at top tier tho. I'm barely above 1.5 K/death and never felt truly comfortable from the get go. I guess that video was made for people like me...
@SkinkUA Жыл бұрын
based 57 mig skin
@Onionrings097 ай бұрын
that f4s comment felt directed
@HasvenWorld4 ай бұрын
Watching this because i got the german mig-29 and boy are things rough in 12.7
@sahermaged15799 ай бұрын
Last tip is just :chefkiss: You do not know how many times I see bombers in11-12 br more than 8 ppl dead with 135 score lol
@GeneralLee2000 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, I dropped a nuke in Air RB after this 🫡
@lonkevych94 Жыл бұрын
that Ukrainian air force livery on Mig-29 goes hard 💪
@HighSideHustler811 Жыл бұрын
🙋♂️🙋♂️I tend to stay away from top tier (skill related reasoning ) but I am I’m one of those dorks who goes full tilt at the base Rollin 1,000-2,000ft like a freight train, although I like to come in at a angle and way out on the edges of the map almost thinking I’m sneakier then shit , however I am now learning that just maaaaayy not be the best route to take after watching this 😂😂
@lazarusmagellan2367 Жыл бұрын
Some games I get 7 kills other 0. This is helpful
@gendarmerielosblancos4395 Жыл бұрын
Can someone pls tell me whats the best radar mode for the R27R (not R27ER) missiles on a mig29. Also for how long do i have to mainatain lock on the opp jet for it to hit?
@Tacom01 Жыл бұрын
You need to keep the lock until it hits
@eaststarling7805 Жыл бұрын
ACM Radar mode
@gendarmerielosblancos4395 Жыл бұрын
@@eaststarling7805 ACM MTI or ACM HMD? which is better?
@eaststarling7805 Жыл бұрын
@@gendarmerielosblancos4395 either
@Tacom01 Жыл бұрын
@@gendarmerielosblancos4395 HMD follows where you look to a certain degree. works only in around 10km tho
@philhatake35926 ай бұрын
Thought side winders pinged radar, thanks
@ab123110 Жыл бұрын
I do not like the F-4s. Their energy retention means they can only boom and zoom. While the radar on the later ones are good enough once you are out of missiles I find it hard to get a gun kill because the plane can only do one rotation before losing all of its energy. That is why a lot of people prefer to bomb with it first. Shame on those F-16s and Mig-29s that are still bombing. You got the plane, now you get to have 'fun'.
@kurotoriaioi6204 Жыл бұрын
I'm just having a horrible time playing the F-4EJ Kai just because it doesn't have the things in front of its wings and it's heavy as shit so the acceleration at the tier is one of the worst even spaded
@Thevegetableslayer Жыл бұрын
Leading edge slats for better aoa, it’s one of, if not the worst phantom in the game
@Thevegetableslayer Жыл бұрын
Scratch that^, it has the best radar, great missiles, but no slats and 11.7 br which means you’ll always get f14 and f16s
@quality9299 Жыл бұрын
@@ThevegetableslayerF4EJ is probably the worse phantom Infront of the F-4F
@Panocek Жыл бұрын
EJ or ER Kai? Former is underwhelming even by 11.0 standards, 11.7 is carried by radar set from F-16 (which isn't that hot tbh) and 4x 9L on board. Sure, after the merge flight performance will bite you back, but before that, it doesn't really matter if its Phantom, F-14 or F-16 - Sparrow is still heading your way.