A-4 SkyHawk vs F-14 Tomcat Top Gun Dogfight | DCS World

[@LongShotChannel]

Hey guys. My store: www.longshotstore.com/ Join me on Discord: discord.gg/drNE6bT In this DCS World (Digital Combat Simulaor) video im flying the a4 skyhawk agains an f14 tomcat flown by D-Monic, thanks you very much for the help my man! I tought it will be interesting to see this fight from the a4 side. The a4 is a free mod, fully functional and click-able, so dcs world is free, this mod is free... I think its an awesome jet and you can bring alot of damage to the battlefield with it, especially air to ground. Hope you guys enjoy!

[@mladenivanzlatar5440]

Longshot refusing to take the Long Shots ? What the hell ? OUT OF CHARACTER ! :) Great Video !

[@torreypine]

That's the best illustration I've seen on how to continue driving the fight to the one-circle in a long time, Longshot. Nicely done.

[@LongShotChannel]

Thats awesomean, thank you very much.

[@bri-manhunter2654]

Exactly!

[@EndTimeDreams]

After the Falklands the HMS Invincible came to New Zealand. We gave them a good old Kiwi welcome and sent out a welcoming committee of Skyhawks to do an air raid when they were off the coast. They didn't pick us up on radar or even see us coming. They couldn't scramble the Sea Harriers in time. A couple of Sea Harriers stayed on shore at Ohakea and did air combat during the carriers stay. Our pilots got kills on the Harriers. One thing to remember is pilot training and the right equipment. We had sidewinders on our skyhawks and good training, it counts for a lot. The Harriers tried "Viffing" hover trick on us as well but it didn't work because we knew it was coming.

[@narcissus79]

One of my mates had a picture of the All Blacks in front of a couple of A4's. Was an awesome pic!

[@lwrncschmchr]

When I watched Top Gun, I never thought it was realistic to put the Skyhawk up against the Tomcat in dogfights because of the age difference and the Skyhawk being a multirole fighter. Glad to see you proving me wrong!

[@LongShotChannel]

Well, its not me. The SkyHawk was used in real life at Top Gun

[@pogo1140]

@@KevinJDildonik The USN Aggressors used the A-4's to play the role of the MiG-17 a subsonic daylight dogfighter. In this it's a pretty good analog though the A-4's roll rate was insane. Many of the A-4 drivers at Topgun and the aggressor squadrons were also F-14 drivers and knew everything about the F-14's weak points and strengths and knew how to exploit them.

[@EndTimeDreams]

People don't realize how good the A-4 is they assume way too much. We in new Zealand used the Skyhawk against F-16's and F-18's and achieved kills in war games.

[@EndTimeDreams]

@@KevinJDildonik Nah. The New Zealand air force did a mock attack against RAAF Tindell a F-18 base in Australia. We sent in 5 skyhawks and they sent up 4 hornets against us. We killed all 4 hornets with not one skyhawk loss. We fought our way in and out. The key is to fly the A-4 to it's strength. And our A-4's has F-16 avionics and HUD

[@pogo1140]

@@EndTimeDreams I wish the F-14 had the F-16"s HUD, it would solve my A2A gunnery problem

[@DanielCPhillips]

Thanks for explaining what you are doing as you go - when you talk about the tactics you are using against each aircraft, it makes the video a whole lot more interesting! :-D

[@LongShotChannel]

Thats great to hear! Thank you, i realy appreciate it

[@DerredmaxTRIAX]

I love it when the dollar gets waxed by a dime. Great job long shot!!!!!

[@LongShotChannel]

Thanks buddy

[@SpeedfreakUK]

7:41 "I'm gonna hit the brakes, he'll fly right by"

[@benwelch4076]

This was easily the best narrated video you have done yet and you are a superb narrator. I commend you on trying the A-4 to learn how it compares to the F-14, I believe this is why you continually improve in DCS. As always I click for the action and stay for the narration, cheers.

[@LongShotChannel]

Thank you. Im glad to hear it from you. Cheers brother

[@EndTimeDreams]

This kind of thing happened with New Zealand and Australia. We (New Zealand) had the A-4K and the Aussie's had the FA/18 legacy Hornet. We got plenty of Kills against them in war games. Flying the A-4 to it's strengths is key.

[@Bearthedancingman]

A4K is a beast too. A4 is one of my favorites

[@whatsyours6424]

You and GS doing the Moran's vids are epic bro ... Had me lounging good ... You guys should do more of them

[@LongShotChannel]

We will buddy, im happy you like it

[@R005t3r]

Ummmm....that's spelled, Moron. I rest my case.

[@roijoi6963]

This is the best video you've done yet of BFM combat. Great job of talking us through your thinking WHILE flying the aircraft! BTW, many years ago I was flying a medium cross country training flight on the way to getting my ticket with my flight instructor in the right seat. We were transitioning through the Ontario, CA ARSA when I got a notification of traffic nearby. After looking for the "heavy" for 15-20 seconds I called "NO JOY", whereupon my flight instructor started laughing her ass off at me. Turns out my traffic was a 747 on a very long straight-in approach, but was behind the A pillar in my Cessna 152 and as I turned a bit to try to find him it just kept him hidden, so yes, I failed to viz ID, not a TomCat, but the World's largest aircraft at the time, a 747! Lesson learned, I started moving my head all around the cabin clearing my flight path. I now have a profound appreciation of John Boyd's decision to have NO viz obstructions in the F-16's canopy. (One of many great Viper design decisions, which I happened to recall the other day, was based largely on interviews Boyd did of Korean War pilots. Kelly Johnston of Lockheed claimed he based the design of the F-104 on the same data. Hard to imagine two aircraft more different in design, yet supposedly, based on the same information. I think time has proven Boyd did the better job, although Hillaker says if they'd made the F-16 Boyd wanted, instead of the F/B the USAF wanted, they'd have sold no more Vipers than Starfighters. Things that make you go "Hummmm...")

[@LongShotChannel]

Thank you very much. Yeah i dont know y they choose this design to haev 4 of those pillers in a fighter. Even in cars it is very restricting sometimes. But thats a funny story. I litterly just adjusted my Track IR profile so ill be able to move my head in the cockpit better just because of that. Cheers and thanks again.

[@shaunhill13]

Great vid, love how you switch planes for a different view!

[@LongShotChannel]

Thanks, thought ill give it a shot

[@LongShotChannel]

Thank you very much. Its good to know that it help. Cheers buddy

[@roijoi6963]

@@skyhorseprice6591 A resounding YES to this as well. As you indicated, this is a great enhancement to TacView, which itself is a great enhancement. Please make this a LS Trademark, as it's a really great tool!

[@member5488]

As small as the Scooter is, it can take off with 8500 pounds of ordinance, which is 500 more than a WWII B-17. The 20mm cannons it carries are derived from the Hispano-Suzia, used on some British, French and US fighters in WWII, due to it's compactness. Most fighters were large enough to carry revolver or rotary cannons by this era.

[@jbepsilon]

According to wikipedia, Israeli and Singaporean A-4's were equipped with twin 30mm DEFA or ADEN revolver cannons instead of the 20mm ones. A rather massive improvement in cannon punch!

[@member5488]

@@jbepsilon Nice. Leave it to the IDF to accomplish such an upgrade.

[@timonsolus]

The A-4's jet engine is tremendously more powerful than the B-17's piston engine. Much more powerful than all 4 of the B-17's engines put together.

[@reidmortensen2629]

I wonder which version of the A-4 they used for the flight models. The later versions they used in aggressor configs were beefed with much a larger engine. It would be interesting to know; as power to weight plays a huge roll in this kind of fight. An extra 3000lbs of thrust would have made a difference.

[@roijoi6963]

Looks like ~ 2,300+ lbs thrust, but still a nice bump up. Speaking of that, I noticed a few weeks ago the F404 and F414 engines will both fit inside an F-104 Starfighter with ~ 54" of length and 4" of diameter to spare while thrust goes from 15.6 to 22k. Throw in a SABR AESA radar, DL and 6 AIM-120C/Ds and you'd have one hell of a missile hurler. The icing on the cake though would be a FBW system that makes the tail a lifting body, bc the 104 sure needs some more lift, even if the new engines would almost offset the weight of ALL 6 of the AMRAAMs. With leading edge slats and spoilerons, the Viper's flight control computer would probably be Plug & Play for the 104.

[@reidmortensen2629]

@@roijoi6963 There are countries that were still messing with the 104 for YEARS after the west stopped supporting the type. It seems that some of the most inventive improvements come from other countries on our frames. The viper upgrades, the blueprint for the strike eagle, the phantom-II variants out of Israel are outstanding examples of this; but I know there are countries running upgrades on tiger-II and freedom fighter, 104, etc. The detailed knowledge you shared is impressive in a cool way. The missile carrier option would be something to consider, particularly if you could automate or otherwise remove the human from that plane. A datalink computer could slave it as support aircraft to nearby AtG assets. Imagine: A-10C+ en route to battle space with F-104 spec’d to your description to engage the pop-up fighter support in contested battle spaces. The hog drivers could engage those air-to-air threats from their cockpits but firing weapon systems launched from those F-104s. It’s a cool concept. I love the idea of using existing systems to make “mid-step” fighters.

[@EndTimeDreams]

New Zealand had the A4-k with the old J-52 turbojet. We frequently got kills of F-16's, F-18's, F-5's and even the Sea Harriers that were in the Falklands war. The key with the Skyhawk is fly it to its strengths.

[@MrMJpilot]

That was a great fight for you. lol. That guy made several mistakes, and like a good pilot you were able to capitalize on them.

[@micahsirolli1838]

Love the vids man keep up the good work

[@LongShotChannel]

Thank you very much!!

[@micahsirolli1838]

@@LongShotChannel no problem man

[@v0id683]

Nice one! Good to finally shed some light on the A-4. Also nice piloting hehe

[@LongShotChannel]

Thank you

[@45CaliberCure]

Nice to see the Skyhawk get some attention. It's kind of an odd plane, but it has some charm in its own way. Thanks for showcasing its strengths. Great narration, too.

[@LongShotChannel]

Yeah, i kinda like this jet. Thank you

[@ghostrider1827]

Yo the move the Tomcat pulled at 6:25 was outstanding! MOST of us who watch LS and GS have seen it before...lol I'm not telling tho. Do your own research😆

[@702BattleBorn]

Yo LS, great plan, great execution. Thanks for the demonstration. Have a pleasant day. Cheers

[@LongShotChannel]

Thank you, have a great day too buddy.

[@551Bboy]

8:48 we've got a magically repairing elevator lol

[@luciusvorenus9445]

Love the Scooter. Enjoyed A-4 footage.

[@lilletrille8998]

This just goes to show what a very good pilot can pull off, even if flying an aircraft that should loose - just glad it wasnt me trying to dogfight you in that F-14!!!

[@tupahutuokoneiswife3972]

@7:50 I can see "goose" flipping you off!? Dang that was close! Paused for full affect!

[@Dv087]

I really enjoyed this dogfight. A lot of people underestimate the A-4. It was a great plane for it's time.

[@LongShotChannel]

Great to hear you enjoyed. Thank you

[@benjaminmatte5225]

Good channel LS, kick some tail in that scooter

[@LongShotChannel]

Thanks

[@robhedrick9977]

I propose a series of videos for you...you vs GS. Same aircraft best of 3. Pick 5 aircraft. 1 aircraft per video. Videos decide who's the best. Oh, and we'll want dual commentary too. Please =)

[@oldmanfunky4909]

Great Job Longshot! But we need to change your name to short shot. =P

[@danielhylland6901]

Good morning, gentlemen, the temperature is 110 degrees

[@danielberger1378]

Longshot is up here...? Oh shit... 😆

[@nunucello]

Nice work Longshot

[@LongShotChannel]

Thank you

[@Power5]

If the A-4 had a more modern gun sight, it would be a pretty nice jet to fly. All old school stick and rudder.

[@Gozar111]

Great flying man!

[@LongShotChannel]

Thanks, i realy appreciate it

[@andressegovia4785]

Excelent video! love for the skyhawk!

[@LongShotChannel]

Thank you

[@billnu]

It looks like what Viper and Jester would be doing for real. “And here we see he is low on energy because of the endless series of small mistakes he made and now we come to the inevitable conclusion, thus endeth the lesson for today.”

[@swright5690]

Jester is proud of you!

[@s4dg]

1:33 the fight should have been over here

[@LongShotChannel]

If i was a better shot.

[@kaesees]

Whatever reversal cue the F-14 was using, it was the wrong one lmao

[@VerumAdPotentia]

The SkyHawk is one of my favorite planes.

[@-fulcrumer]

Great vid ! Btw SEAD or Strike with AV8B Harrier II would be nice 😁

[@woiace]

It is also about the pilot, not just the plane.

[@avramnovorra]

A4 Skyhawk really was really hawking the sky today 😉 Also, i just realized that the slats on the Skyhawk jut out at a weird angle, not that im complaining, just lookd way diffrent than other slats ive seen before

[@LongShotChannel]

Yeah because on the Skyhawk the slats moves from gravity, they will drop down once no air coming around the wing. There for, they are a little bit bigger and heavy. And once they will drop they will be hold by a few conectors

[@avramnovorra]

@@LongShotChannel oh i forgot about how the A-4 uses gravity actuation instead of hydraulics.. The designers were genius for designing the slats that way.. thanks for refreshing my memory 🤘

[@LongShotChannel]

Cheers

[@SargeantKoranFlusher]

That was most informative. ... I'll have get out my A-4 again. Was that A-4 update automatic with the latest DCS beta update or do I have to go hunt it down?

[@LongShotChannel]

Hey, thabk you so much, about yhe A4, you will need to download it again

[@JNelson_]

You should pick up the latest version of the A-4 the simple flight model you are using is much too easy to control and overperforms. This fight would be much harder (and more releastic) with the new efm.

[@LongShotChannel]

I think im using it. Ill do a double check tho

[@ItayM]

תענוג בדיוק הורדתי את המודל הזה לפי הדרישה של הקהילה הישראלית של preflight הסרטון הגיע בזמן.

[@LongShotChannel]

תהנה, הוא ממש טוב

[@DimRagga]

You ever gonna do some WW2 dogfights?

[@LongShotChannel]

I will buddy. Still learning

[@kenhelmers2603]

A bit of Spice added :)

[@Doc_3908]

Well flown.

[@LongShotChannel]

Thanks

[@heathsaunders7426]

That was awesome 😎

[@DD-jl9xd]

So you wanna be Viper now okay cool 😎

[@LongShotChannel]

lololol i thought about that scene in the making of this video, and i even try to match the camo of the A4 to the best of my ability from what i had in DCS

[@DD-jl9xd]

@@LongShotChannel nice bro I’m waiting to get my money together so I can get a good PC to play DCS. I love your guys work 💯

[@LongShotChannel]

Thats awesome man, im glad that you going to join

[@jacksonegaming]

Why aren't you using the latest version of the a4?

[@WihGlah]

Holy Shit its Viper!

[@Scoobydcs]

tomcat pilot needs practise. lots of reversing right in front of you when he shouldve just stayed in the 2 circle and eaten you

[@doncalypso]

@LongShot, my man... didn't your mother teach you *NOT* to play with your food? You were toying with that Tomcat the way cats will torture mice before they finally kill them.

[@LongShotChannel]

I didnt, it wasnt as easy..

[@doncalypso]

@@LongShotChannel well I'm certain the Tomcat pilot was sweating bullets.

[@ez3559]

Where can I download the skyhawk mod?

[@LongShotChannel]

Ill make sure to add a link in the description. Refresh the page in 30 min

[@LongShotChannel]

Its in the description now, enjoy

[@ez3559]

@@LongShotChannel thanks man

[@NeutronRob]

Viper vs. Maverick/Goose..... Viper wins!

[@edsilva54]

Enjoyed

[@LongShotChannel]

Thats great. Thanks

[@Boeing_hitsquad]

Con GS into a 4v4 guns only furball.

[@trendinglive2489]

The LCA Tejas, Tejas 1A Generation 4+ aircrafts and LCH Helicopters are really impressive for the Army, Air Force and Marine. And it's Airtime cost is 20 to 40% less than the Competitors. It shows the dual life efficiency of the Machines. The HAL ALH Rudra Helicopter is also best in class, economical and lethal beast.

[@barryscott6222]

what... you tried a "long shot"...?

[@LongShotChannel]

Lol yeah.. and it didnt work...

[@turretbarrage2707]

LONGDONG.

[@rikrayarcade]

Oh yeah 😀

[@bri-manhunter2654]

Hard fought win

[@_myron]

שתיים שבור שמאלה!

[@LongShotChannel]

אוקי הופל אחד הוא נטש

[@frostgc]

A4 v F4 v F5

[@hungarianlad9734]

Sorry fanboys, F14 ain’t as good as it’s hyped up to be

[@EndTimeDreams]

New Zealand used to embarrass F-16's, F-18's and F-5"s quite frequently with the A-4

[@hungarianlad9734]

@@EndTimeDreams yea American fighters are overweight, overhyped flying bricks

[@mfree80286]

@@hungarianlad9734 And the A-4 is who's aircraft?

[@inlinx]

Skyhawk is ugly and slow. (only 600 mph max)