TOP GUN | F-14 Tomcat + F-4 Phantom II Vs A-4E Skyhawk DOGFIGHT | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

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[@Naruto_Noah]

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[@Naruto_Noah]

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[@numberyellow]

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[@andrewnegron288]

Are you forgetting the F-5 Tiger shark another small jet fighter that had success against both the F-14 and 15 in top gun schools.

[@dct124]

Call Sign: BIO Mission: Training exercise Aircraft: F-14 Adversary: 5x F-4 Phantom Location: Desert with mountain cover. This story was told by David BIO Baranack. He was the RIO of an F-14 and states he and his pilot defeated 3 to 4 F-4 Phantoms in a dog fight after there wingman had been taken out prior to the merge. The way he tells the story, this definitely should be on your list of possible challenges as it's a real life event.

[@tis7963]

Fun fact: the tail surfaces of the F-14 are bigger than the wings of the A-4.

[@25blacksnow]

Damn

[@termitreter6545]

Yeh. Its amazing how small the A-4 is (despite its bomb carrying capability!) and how huge the F-14. Tbf the F14 has unusually big tail surfaces to make up for lack of roll authority from its swept wing design and high "wing back" stability, but thats just nitpicking :D

[@localracer]

Nice work out there

[@doncalypso]

The F-14 and F-15 were both flying tennis courts...

[@mikegreck2625]

@@doncalypso and the Flankers are still bigger than them lol

[@DDayJayke]

GS: "Maybe we can get an overshoot" F-14: "Hold this for me, will you?"

[@RahpaSmurf]

I laughed so hard

[@edgaralfredohernandez1547]

Men, that was very funny! LOL!!!!

[@tuunaes]

Well, guess chances were better than trying to get something like Hornet overshoot.

[@midnightbluevt]

>Ding! *MMM!* keksimus maximus

[@kmplays7468]

The A-4 in DCS is so underrated! A free module that’s so detailed!

[@person-by1wb]

where can i find it

[@tonyc.6205]

The Top Gun A-4 was fitted with a much more powerful engine than the standard engine, and had unneeded equipment removed to save weight. It was basically a flying engine, used to simulate the MiG-17. A more fair fight against the F-14 than shown here.

[@timonsolus]

Guess the only way to simulate that is to load down the F-14 with 4 Phoenix missiles as well as Sidewinders - (and also ban the F-14 from using or jettisoning the Phoenixes).

[@jamesjarrait2231]

@@timonsolusA Phoenix hitting an A-4 would not be pretty.

[@1471SirFrederickBanbury]

@@timonsolus maybe load the F-14 with tanks and bombs that they're not allowed to jettison.

[@mikegreck2625]

@@jamesjarrait2231 wouldnt even have to detonate lol. 1,000 lb wrecking ball

[@GrantvsMaximvs]

My grandaddy brother was one of the first instructors at the Fighter Weapons School. He flew the A-4 in Vietnam, off the Essex. I would give almost anything, if he could have lived to see the DCS A-4 in VR...

[@KingMakerRook]

the F-4 has such an insanely dangerous silhouette. I know people think it's ugly but I think it looks MEAN, especially considering this is the first time we've seen it in the opfor position in one of your fights

[@dutchbiker4825]

How about a 3-way dog fight, to spice things up a bit. Start with the same plane. No teams, just every man for himself.

[@icjd80]

Dude, c'mon. Let's keep it family friendly

[@bushmant6279]

OH SHIT IT’S VIPER

[@benn454]

GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN. THE TEMPERATURE IS 110 DEGREES.

[@2ksnakenoodles]

​@@benn454great, vipers up here!

[@SuperiorAutocraft]

He's probably saying, "Holy shit, it's Maverick and Goose."

[@2ksnakenoodles]

@@SuperiorAutocraft Yeah I'm sure he's saying that

[@icjd80]

Where'd whooooo goooooo!

[@tommyhijmensen6257]

A very famous Top Gun pilot once said to his RIO after dogfighting the A-4; Harddeck my ass,we nailed that sob !

[@timonsolus]

Respect the harddeck - it exists for your safety!

[@l8knight845]

I heard his name wasn't the best in the navy, and his Rio was lucky just to be there?

[@icjd80]

I heard Maverick eventually did take that cargo plane job in Hong Kong when found out it paid better than the military and had better benefits

[@l8knight845]

@icjd80 I caught Goose doing a stint as a lounge act on piano in Vegas. He only played Great Balls of Fire and Take My Breath Away, so it was kind of wierd.

[@icjd80]

@l8knight845 haha, surprised he didn't do a lounge version of Highway to the Dangerzone

[@mcleanac3000]

A-4 was a serious little bomber back in the day. Small, great at low level, agile with AAA, awesome jet. My dad flew them in the Marines and loved flying it.

[@IronChef60]

YOU don’t offset the circles, *I* offset! -GS

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Loooooool I was born in the offset 2 circle, molded by it.

[@dec5829]

​@@GrowlingSidewinderDid the other pilot explain what he was thinking there? He shoved victory into the jaws of defeat.

[@ViperDriver22]

I never thought seeing Vietnam/80's era jets sparring look so cool.

[@icjd80]

Ya before long range missiles and stealth took all the fun out of it

[@stepstv4466]

To be fair even the top DCS pilots, currently still struggle with flying the F4

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Yes people are still learning, can’t blame them there.

[@PhilS0341]

Some "training exercise". Maverick, to Goose: "Yeah, we're going to Top Gun!" Goose: "Uh, Mav...I think they do live fire training there now." Maverick: "Yeah, ain't it cool?!" Goose: ... Goose: "Eject!"

[@termitreter6545]

One really interseting thing about the F-4 is imo that its clearly not amazing at slow speeds, but look how it often and accurately it gets the nose on in the end one circle fight against the A-4! Even slow, the F-4 almost always retains some level of nose authority. Not in a snappy or fast way, but its legit difficult to acchieve loss of control, let alone engine flameouts. The wings design, slats and stability assists, besides powerful engines and wing surface, must really do a number. They show where 4th gens will go. ... also that last flight looked like he wanted to make you win? That was really weird. Didnt even seriously flare at the end.

[@BenParkes-wz5bd]

Video idea: I-16 Donkey vs Su-57 Felon

[@nathanworthington4451]

Cmon man, if you're going to try to be funny you gotta do better

[@ChongPangBoom]

@@nathanworthington4451 The Felon stationary on the ground?

[@ruehl3853]

I think he already did this, and the i-16 won every time

[@BenParkes-wz5bd]

I am not trying to be funny. He has not done this before. I am serious.

[@KH990j]

He just did an I16 vs a Flanker and it got smoked in less than 15 seconds

[@Schu2505]

When I was a kid, I read a book that said that the A4 nickname was Heinemann’s hotrod.

[@williamstevenson5534]

That is its nickname

[@icjd80]

I think I saw that reading rainbow episode

[@gregfromguam]

GS, you are an extremely patient flyer. I used to play Aces High, the 'War Thunder' 13 years before War Thunder(though limited to WWII). You would have ruled the skies there with a P-51D, I have no doubt. Salute, Sir :)

[@jamesschiller7247]

I died at the 9:43m mark. What a great fight.

[@zooot820]

rip

[@katherinespezia4609]

I dunno man I think it was GS who died there.

[@alphazuluz]

I love when he puts jokes like that in there. His content is so calm and strait-laced, when he does something like that it’s hilarious.

[@ridewithted2003]

I've always been a fan of the A-4. When I was stationed in Guantanamo in the late 70's there was a squadron of A-4's there. Great to see those things flying around. Good job.

[@williamstevenson5534]

Blue Angels used them in the 70s

[@NavajoMX]

GS should check inside his engine cowl for free grilled fish back at base the way he skimmed so low.

[@AShadowboxsFSX]

This was really cool to see. Does DCS have an F-5? If so maybe doing an F-5 "MiG 28" vs F-14 would be a cool video :D

[@horusfalcon]

I just did a good deal of research on the A-4M. Such a tiny aircraft by comparison with the Phantom, and nicely maneuverable, but could benefit from that engine upgrade that occurred near the end of production... As it is, though, you acquitted yourself well. I didn't actually expect you to survive against either aircraft. Shows the difference an experienced pilot can make.

[@MurderHornet2020]

You went below the hard deck! Now get up to Viper's office!

[@RT42069]

Brought back the Sully meme 😂😂😂

[@niixodus]

If Douglas followed through with putting an afterburner on the A4 it would've been a completely different animal

[@mediapartners9950]

The A4 is such a screamer of an aircraft. Love it!

[@entropy11]

Those sidewinders just look impossibly large strapped to the little A-4.

[@Akm72]

I think the A-4 was seen as a MiG-17 simulator so I'm not sure it would have been simulating Fox Twos.

[@jonjeckell]

Again, really loving the F-4 content, and F-4 + A-4 is even better! The A-4 was used by the instructor pilots at Top Gun for dissimilar combat training to replicate the MiG-17 though, not because it was a bigger challenge. The F-5 adversary aircraft replicated the MiG-21.

[@JonBrase]

13:12 If that's "almost skimming", I'd hate to see your definition of "actually skimming". Somehow I think it would involve a U-boat.

[@Garian9]

I think even real life Russian fighter pilots might say "GS, dat is too low!"

[@thunderlucas8923]

And the menacing backround audio contrasts it hilariously/ironically 😂

[@MasterBakerVideos]

That was too short - more, more! Love the A-4. Not seen enough of it before. Pretty agile little beast to take on the big boys and win. If only the engines had been more powerful.

[@fisher525]

The TOPGUN A-4F's were nicknamed the "Mongoose" for good reason being stripped of excess weight and stuffed with the J52-P408, they had a thrust to weight ratio of nearly 1:1

[@ishitmehta3057]

That pull up from the f14 to counter the turn reversal? Thing of beauty

[@AllanYoutubeMedia]

What i love most from every Foxes fight is when the aircraft that armed with Fox-2 arm it's Fox-2, in-short i love the Fox-2s tone❤.

[@mcleanac3000]

One of the best ones yet. I love these vintage vids!!

[@Tony-zp8xn]

Compared to a lot of other aircraft at the time, the F-14 was just such a beast. Would love to see this type of dogfight showdown among the F-14, F/A-18, and F-35C.

[@warhawk4494]

Sopwith camel vs german eurofighter,or Fokker tri-plane vs British EuroFighter.

[@Flakeytie]

Love the Top Gun Videos! Thank you.

[@milnez]

Grew up in NZ watching Skyhawks flying around the volcano in Taranaki… 😊

[@The_SmorgMan]

Lived in wellsford and Whangarei for a few years.

[@billybutler4670]

I’m glad I watched the whole video, that water slide was so sick!

[@h.mushmann2351]

As much as pulling out of the two circle was a mistake, I'm glad he chose content over winning the dogfight

[@Spydr6684]

9:48 AHHH HAAA!!! Jester’s dead!!! R.I.P. Goose.

[@stevebishop9928]

Growing up on miltary bases I have seen the scooter on many occasions, when it'' clean it is very maneuverable.

[@AngryGecko1010]

Looking forward to watching!

[@jeremyfilip4190]

Im suprised the F4 wasnt preflaring as soon as he got out in front in that first round. GS has definetly taught us the importance of preflaring!

[@chefboyarb]

Need a better pilot next go

[@michaelpontoni8522]

probably damaged when it took those hits.

[@ruiliu4157]

Good to see both Duke and Pete Mitchell 😂 Should have disabled the gun on F-4 for the Navy variant.

[@seancrandall1291]

I'm confused. I have it on good authority that the A-4 is smaller, faster, and more maneuverable than the F-14.

[@williamstevenson5534]

Cannot be faster lol, it doesn't have afterburner . Sub supersonic

[@timonsolus]

The A-4 isn't faster than the F-14. Unless the F-14 pilot makes a mistake and bleeds off most of his speed.

[@HereticsRight]

The A-4 training variants have pretty much everything that doesn't keep them in the air ripped out so they weigh almost nothing, between that and the instructors actually knowing what they are doing probably make the A-4 all of those things.

[@williamstevenson5534]

@@HereticsRight except faster 😏

[@patchwrk]

@@williamstevenson5534 the aggressor A-4's have a lower top speed, but a better acceleration envelope on the deck, so they can recover from energy-bleeding maneuvers more quickly than the beefy Tomcat. They don't have the 14's raw power, but they are far more "zippy", as it were.

[@cubey1118]

How can you counter an offset two-circle? You've explained how you can get one going, but how do you get out of it and get back into the "overlapping" two-circle?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

In those videos where I explained the offset 2 circle at the end I explain how to counter them in the tacview portion if you want a visual aid, but simply stated you just copy his moves he climbs up climb, he pulls down u copy him, so as he is offsetting you’re offsetting your circle back on top of his and therefore keeping the fight overlapped.

[@death2all79zx]

The little A4 makes those sidewinders look huge.

[@abbaerfani9007]

Very well done and I see your flaps are down for better lifts. Gerat job by you GS again thanks ❤

[@ghostrowbot3189]

you should make a dcs top gun training school so so so much content to be had

[@stunninglynormal1261]

The A-4 was also nicknamed Heilman's Hotrod.

[@danestewart2539]

Love it when you throw those little comical GIF’s in there, especially tickled me when you were treating the R-37 like an AIM-120, it got you, then the GIF of Putin with the kiss of celebration.. funny

[@dumptrump3788]

That last one was Edge Of The Seat stuff!

[@haydnwilde7158]

I'd love to see the day when our boi here actually uses a cobra maneuver.

[@m.searay4629]

Great fights. All great aircrafts for this scenario. Especially loved the Tomcat pouncing on the Skyhawk like a mongoose vs a cobra. 😆

[@AnnaVahtera]

The Sully meme timing was perfect. 💀💀

[@phispooky]

Great fight, great video! I love the A-4 and this was very entertaining.

[@timonsolus]

Suggestion - Make your A-4 Skyhawk a bit lighter in this 1 vs 1 dogfight by only carrying 2 Sidewinders, instead of 4.

[@EstebanQuito-v2j]

13:15 pilotos de escuadrilla 3ra de caza y ataque en el 82, huevo y valor carajo!🇦🇷

[@ArcFire_Fox]

Always loving the content, you guys always look like you are having fun.

[@jerodharris]

Top Gun pilots called the A-4 the Wet Booger

[@diegoaguilar5491]

Got no clue if its true.. but honestly it really fits 😂

[@jeremyfilip4190]

Can really see a big difference in the newer aircraft in the fact of we dont see them osilating nowhere near as much. Seemed like that was all these aircraft were doing, rocking back and forth 😂

[@sambarnes9520]

A 4 is still being used as Red Air. Flying out of Kingston NC against the Marines.

[@sirephil5302]

yippie. new Vid 😀 Keep it up Splash🤭😁 .. and i love this " hmmm" 😂 ( we should be save here 😜 )

[@tormentorxl2732]

The F14 , in its day was such a bird of prey. Not only in its ascetics, but in its performance. It looks the part of a chiseled hunting beast.

[@michaelbuckley5898]

GS I love the Vietnam era airplanes. If DCS has a A-6 Intruder mod or A-7 Corsair mod please add those to your future videos.

[@Lee-sti8wrx]

Maybe we can't get an overshoot! Lol. How your wing didn't smash your face into the ocean, I have no idea. You should do the F-4E against an F-18. That would be a pretty cool match and challenge for you, you in the F-4E of coarse. Sorry had to edit it because I forgot to say sick video brother.

[@stevebishop9928]

I have seen a mig 21 up close at an airshow, they are small! Fast, but small!

[@adamspgoot]

f-14 looks so damn cool from outside

[@Mav09]

F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New Day 46

[@adamspgoot]

Navy fights are always dope, would be an interesting fight.

[@jerseyshoredroneservices225]

Watching this reminds me of that movie the final countdown...

[@Delzona]

It would interesting if you get a follow up response from the other person as to what they were trying to do.

[@Bad_Wolf_Media]

GS: "Look at me! Look at me! I'm the Jester now."

[@stevebishop9928]

The A 4 was used mainly because it's size revelant to the mig 21.

[@bushmant6279]

“We regret to inform you that your sons are dead because they were stupid”

[@StrengthAndConditioning61]

Seen the Blue Angels when they flew A4s

[@castle54027]

13:08 almost became the world's fastest submarine 😂

[@gungriffen]

Wish theyd add the A-4 to the new Flaming Cliffs 4

[@ChrisLincolnHomes]

My uncle flew the A4 off the USS Enterprise before the start of the Vietnam Conflict.

[@kenschuette5932]

I love the A4 such a great plane

[@sogerc1]

That Fox-2 in the 2nd round couldn't care less about flares.

[@RaptoroftheRiver]

The missile at 9:40 😂😂😂😂 i spit my coffee lmao.

[@keithgeorge7338]

How much does the G force in manoeuvres tire out the pilot and affect what you can do or for how long?

[@CharlesHuse]

That 1st round gun fight was at knife fighting range.

[@Cipherius117]

RNZAF: 4:35 *spits out coffee* . *all squadrons begin furiously unwrapping and cleaning the birds nests out of the A4 SkyHawks sitting plastic-wrapped at various AFBs*. 9:45 *NOTAM issued. Apologies delivered to A4 birds nest families, nest reconstruction commences, polite requests left with nests seeking egg supplies to continue as per BAU*.

[@Dayzr16]

Bring more A-4's videos

[@themrnightmare]

Fun fact: the wingspan of the F14 is the same as TWO F16 wingtip to wingtip

[@spoofington7025]

When Tornado content

[@fffffffffff999]

@@LeonXD111 what about f35 ?

[@Mike_Romeo]

@@fffffffffff999 Maybe after it got declassified enough in 40 years

[@iangoodsell]

I thought if you slammed on the brakes, he would fly right by!

[@busterdee8228]

On the first round, were your flaps stuck, or is that how you meant to play it?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

No they’re not stuck I dropped them on purpose

[@busterdee8228]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Thanks, I never saw you pull them back in, so I just wondered.

[@Trig0r]

Has there been some sort of update to flight characteristics recently, I'm noticing quite a few planes seem to be a bit jerky and unnatural in the videos.

[@diegoaguilar5491]

GS, for some of the killshots (like the ones you really liked) could we get cinematic shots like from the pylons for example? Been seeing it and gotten a sweet tooth for it haha

[@ianflem6489]

In Top Gun they stripped A-4 to bare minimum so it could go faster and more nimble. I do hope you could do that here and let's see the results.

[@americaniron5446]

F-86 vs A4 fox2 fight?

[@nemoclavon566]

Don’t forget to state which model of the f-86

[@timonsolus]

The F-86 doesn't have Fox 2's. Guns only.

[@nemoclavon566]

@@timonsolus f-86D

[@timonsolus]

@@nemoclavon566 : OK, but is that version in DCS?

[@nemoclavon566]

@@timonsolus idk but he finds mods I don’t play DCS tho

[@GaryOKeeBlues]

When your enemy is in the middle of making a mistake, don’t interrupt them.

[@roguestudios2189]

Would love to see the A1 skyraider if it's in the game

[@audible_]

You should fly out a f86 sabre such a cool plane in my opinion

[@TheOfficial007]

A-4 vs the MiG-15/17 would be a good one.