A = 432Hz

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Adam Neely

Adam Neely

6 жыл бұрын

Tuning A to 432 hz may yield the answers to the question that so many people ask themselves - why does my music not feel the way that I hear in my head? Why is it that so much of the music that I hear out in the real world feels so...plastic-y and false when I know it could be so much more?
Actually, no it won't yield those answers. It's basically just a big new age circle jerk.
But the weird internet obsession with A=432 does bring up some interesting questions about the history of how we got to our current standard, A=440, and why some people might dabble in lower tuning systems.
THE SCHUMANN RESONANCE (two sources)
www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/su...
roelhollander.eu/en/432-tunin...
A typical A432 website (blerg)
www.viewzone.com/432hertz222.html
EQUAL TEMPERED TUNING AT VARIOUS TUNINGS FOR A
pages.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreq4...
THE LEVITIN EFFECT
link.springer.com/content/pdf...
THE ISO STANDARD FOR 440 (in case you want to, buy it? I guess?)
www.iso.org/standard/3601.html
THE ISO STANDARD FOR A SECOND
www.bipm.org/en/publications/s...
THE SCHILLER INSTITUTE ON 432
(they actually have an interesting idea basing A=432 on registration shifts of a bel canto soprano. I don't know enough about registration and the soprano voice, but something tells me that the register shifts aren't the same among all singers. That said, an interesting idea, and not nearly as idiotic as some of the other ones on their page)
www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_...
PITCH INFLATION
/ great-pitch-inflation-...
HISTORY OF PITCH
capionlarsen.com/history-pitch/
CHANGING PITCH OVER TIME
www.mcgee-flutes.com/eng_pitch...
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Adam

Пікірлер: 8 200
@fh404
@fh404 5 жыл бұрын
I tune to 440 kHz so nobody can hear my music
@edwardyang8254
@edwardyang8254 5 жыл бұрын
Modulate something with radio wave and broadcast it.
@floatingheadextras6682
@floatingheadextras6682 5 жыл бұрын
I tried 440Mhz but nothing change😑😑
@muha0644
@muha0644 4 жыл бұрын
433.92 MHz is clearly better
@cecilokatrona
@cecilokatrona 4 жыл бұрын
and i oop
@scottvelez3154
@scottvelez3154 4 жыл бұрын
Good, anything but that
@jacksoniansonex9235
@jacksoniansonex9235 4 жыл бұрын
I’m still waiting on the A=420 movement.
@impakaaiempi8228
@impakaaiempi8228 3 жыл бұрын
Aaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahah
@SwipSedai
@SwipSedai 3 жыл бұрын
You've discovered the secret of my solo stoner metal project that I was definitely already planning
@earlanofficial1
@earlanofficial1 3 жыл бұрын
Eyy
@YardstickofCivilization
@YardstickofCivilization 3 жыл бұрын
eventually...
@toniokettner4821
@toniokettner4821 3 жыл бұрын
i'm already in!
@ash2357577
@ash2357577 2 жыл бұрын
Modern Music: A = 440 New Age: A = 432 Gregorian Chant: A = Whatever I want
@anttilehtoranta3152
@anttilehtoranta3152 2 жыл бұрын
Modern orchestral music: A = whatever the fuck the oboe player tuned to....
@123cityperson
@123cityperson 2 жыл бұрын
baroque pitch: whatever A is but a semitone lower
@DeadeyeDaily
@DeadeyeDaily 2 жыл бұрын
Talking to a piano tuning guy (a really good one), he said it's possible for each piano to have a "native resonance" differing slightly from others. Any thoughts?
@bobbirdsong6825
@bobbirdsong6825 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeadeyeDaily sounds plausible because guitars and drums are similar, it has to do with the wood in them
@ronb6182
@ronb6182 2 жыл бұрын
Beethoven was not new age. 432 hz was used in the classical period and the romantic period. Only after WWII did A 440 come as standard. Try singing tenor in the Handel's Messiah using A440hz. Handel used 422hz.
@HoSza1
@HoSza1 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: if you, at the same time, play your music *and* keep moving away from a person, who prefers A=432Hz, then you, both, are going to be happy! (Doppler shift. Actually, you have to run!)
@marcol.9125
@marcol.9125 2 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment 😅👌🏼
@philipbackes8696
@philipbackes8696 2 жыл бұрын
You have to run at 6.4 m/s, for context Olympic sprinters run at just over 10m/s
@MrSimonEskildsen
@MrSimonEskildsen Жыл бұрын
@@philipbackes8696 a bike perhaps might solve this for everyone
@nutronstar45
@nutronstar45 Жыл бұрын
@@MrSimonEskildsen good luck not getting tired
@franny231123DMT
@franny231123DMT 11 ай бұрын
highlarious post is hilarious
@benjaminmarks8765
@benjaminmarks8765 5 жыл бұрын
They all ask "what is A", never "how is A"
@SaxandRelax
@SaxandRelax 5 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Marks Just made my day
@amj.composer
@amj.composer 5 жыл бұрын
This is so sad, can we hit 50 kids?
@paulopalacio6437
@paulopalacio6437 5 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Marks 😂
@mikuspalmis
@mikuspalmis 5 жыл бұрын
But just *who* ... _is_ A?
@ajhigginscomposer
@ajhigginscomposer 5 жыл бұрын
Where in the world is A?
@cQunc
@cQunc 6 жыл бұрын
"Everything i've said so far in this video has been complete and utter b*******." So A432 *isn't* a road running from Bristol to Old Sodbury? Great, _now_ how am i supposed to get to Old Sodbury?
@RhysOlwyn
@RhysOlwyn 6 жыл бұрын
go east along the A420, then north up the A46 ;)
@sethdavis459
@sethdavis459 6 жыл бұрын
Rhys Olwyn bruh, nice
@mgonzalez8880
@mgonzalez8880 6 жыл бұрын
Seth Davis 😂🤣 you people
@frankieedwards9825
@frankieedwards9825 6 жыл бұрын
Try the highway to hell.... oh wait
@mattlister3713
@mattlister3713 6 жыл бұрын
You’re an Old Sodbury :)
@ivanheffner2587
@ivanheffner2587 3 жыл бұрын
“We don’t perceive pitch in a vacuum.” This is correct on multiple levels…
@zachary963
@zachary963 2 жыл бұрын
ha i get it
@billpeck1237
@billpeck1237 2 жыл бұрын
Incorrect. If a musical instrument has iron vibrating there will be a pitch in both matter and the electormagnetic field. A guitar or tongue drum (if made from iron) will vibrate electrical charges that can be picked up on a trifield meter as magnetic flux. I have not heard of experiments on this but I bet we can perceive plasma vibrations.
@francoomarlopezlopez
@francoomarlopezlopez 2 жыл бұрын
@@billpeck1237 please just shut up
@babscabs1987
@babscabs1987 2 жыл бұрын
I can't fit in my vacuum, but from the outside it sucks at 432hz
@morgendorffer3504
@morgendorffer3504 2 жыл бұрын
@@babscabs1987 LOL
@harpsichordkid
@harpsichordkid 3 жыл бұрын
I studied early music, so we were always using different pitches. 392, 415, 430, 465, etc Fast forward a few years, I was in a certain major city, and someone in the audience invited me to a lecture given by an “expert” of Pythagorean music. Sounded interesting, so I went. The guy had no idea about Pythagorean musical theory. The whole talk was about A=432, and why 440 is Fascists using music in order to mind control the masses. Also, humming 432hz might bring dead birds back to life. After the talk, I asked the “expert” what he thought of historical pitches being mostly regional, and even within regions, you often find a difference between instruments meant for church and those meant for the theatre. Organs tended to be pitched higher - a tradition that lasted into the early 20th century. For instance, antique American reed organs are often close to A=450. They did serve a very nice lunch though.
@paulotav2
@paulotav2 2 жыл бұрын
:)))
@nickchambers3935
@nickchambers3935 2 жыл бұрын
What was his response?
@harpsichordkid
@harpsichordkid 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickchambers3935 It seemed he wasn’t aware of the history of pitch standards beyond the 432 conspiracy theory. And he seemed perturbed
@rabarbar.96
@rabarbar.96 Жыл бұрын
@@harpsichordkid nice fake story :-)
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L Жыл бұрын
@@harpsichordkid lmao of course he didn’t even know about the real history
@kittyclaws4411
@kittyclaws4411 6 жыл бұрын
Somebody once told me that A = 440 I ain't the sharpest note on the scale
@ulilulable
@ulilulable 6 жыл бұрын
The note I isn't even *on* the scale! ;)
@JerBoyd42
@JerBoyd42 6 жыл бұрын
amante pensanta It's just a pitch on the complex plane.
@ulilulable
@ulilulable 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, touché!
@ulilulable
@ulilulable 6 жыл бұрын
Ooh, that must be notes with the same frequency as real ones, but a different amplitude...
@Ryndae-l
@Ryndae-l 6 жыл бұрын
amante pensanta nah, it's just phase shifting
@tubaboytom
@tubaboytom 6 жыл бұрын
Which sounds better to you? 'Plays "All Star" twice' Me with tear in eye: *both*
@LENITYZONE
@LENITYZONE Ай бұрын
Both 🥹
@meghanhawkes2747
@meghanhawkes2747 3 жыл бұрын
Fun bit about the raising of pitch in some places in 'ye olde Europe', was the pipe organ: you're building a new organ for the church, and hey, smaller pipes use less metal, which is cheaper...and also higher pitched. So, a little fudging of the lengths (not too much, otherwise folks will notice and complain) to save some dough, and a little higher pitch standard for the instrument...it's kind of fun to see how 'rich' a town or church was relative to others, based on not just the size of their organ/number of registers and such, but also what they tuned their A to.
@ramiro_echeverria
@ramiro_echeverria 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@ianmclaughlan
@ianmclaughlan 2 жыл бұрын
Pitch is slowly rising that's the fact
@DontYouDareToCallMePolisz
@DontYouDareToCallMePolisz 11 ай бұрын
@@ianmclaughlan global pitch warming
@ianmclaughlan
@ianmclaughlan 11 ай бұрын
Pitch is slowly creeping up in places some pipe organs have gone sharp it is a slow but similar occurance to 1920 to 1854 lower pitch follows and later people adapt for higher pitch a432 Is low but nice but classed as old pitch
@ianmclaughlan
@ianmclaughlan 11 ай бұрын
I mean 1820
@peterwallace8441
@peterwallace8441 3 жыл бұрын
I live in the UK and play in a brass band. In the 1960's most bands still tuned to A=453Hz. Boosey and Hawkes (A prominent manufacturer) was advertising in 1969 to persuade bands to convert their instruments to "Low Pitch" from "High Pitch" or "Old Philharmonic". 453 tuning is impossible on modern instruments. 432 is possible but as instruments are designed for 440 the results wouldn't be entirely satisfactory with some notes not "speaking" properly. sorry if this comment is a bit late considering the date of the video but it is a fascinating subject.
@perr.u.1826
@perr.u.1826 2 жыл бұрын
In Norway, the standard in all bands is 442. Sidenote, I think the reason why the second example in the beginning sounded bad was because the uke was out of tune?
@Anonymous-df8it
@Anonymous-df8it Жыл бұрын
Couldn't A=453 be done by re-labeling the notes?
@ianmclaughlan
@ianmclaughlan 11 ай бұрын
@@Anonymous-df8it by altering the length of instruments making shorter raises pitch
@ferruccioveglio8090
@ferruccioveglio8090 9 ай бұрын
@@perr.u.1826 In Italy too, 442Hz: But if you with "band" mean a windband, well, better talk about "summer pitch" 🥵and "winter pitch" 🥶
@RoelsWorldMusic
@RoelsWorldMusic 6 ай бұрын
Some sources also set the High Pitch A to 475Hz. Both 453Hz and 457Hz are a slightly smaller semitone above 432Hz. So, it is actually pretty easy to play intune with A4=432Hz on a High Pitch instrument, though your Ab will be approx. 432Hz, not your A.
@AlanKey86
@AlanKey86 6 жыл бұрын
As a physicist, I find the lowercase "h" on Hertz... disconcerting. It's messing with my chakras.
@goatcheese36
@goatcheese36 6 жыл бұрын
1) The abbreviation for Hertz is Hz with a capital H
@lxjuani
@lxjuani 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it hertz to read it.
@ooDriveoo
@ooDriveoo 6 жыл бұрын
Imma have to agree with the physicist here, if you went all the way to the BIPM website for definition of the second, you could have at least been metrologically correct and write Hz, not hz... It hurtz my chakras...
@raphaellorenz-delaigue5400
@raphaellorenz-delaigue5400 6 жыл бұрын
I guess Adam Neely forgot to buy the Hz
@SnahLhug
@SnahLhug 6 жыл бұрын
It's a last name, so it should be "Hertz" (Hearts in german)
@jotarodripjo4449
@jotarodripjo4449 6 жыл бұрын
Adam Neely was so annoying in this video. I'm glad Adam Neely shut him up.
@EpicMarioSayian7
@EpicMarioSayian7 6 жыл бұрын
Adam Neely oh my you said the fuck word
@RonWolfHowl
@RonWolfHowl 6 жыл бұрын
we're almost at the magical number guysss
@james.randorff
@james.randorff 6 жыл бұрын
Punch him right in his third eye. Bam!
@jbuzz8211
@jbuzz8211 3 жыл бұрын
Just watched this, and as a professional piano tuner and rebuilder with over 40 years of experience I can tell you that pianos were designed to sound best at , or around A:440. There are very exact settings such as “downbearing” which require a certain tensioning of the strings against the bridge. (which is glued to and presses the soundboard) Lowering the pitch to A:432 does not tension the system to match the design. At proper pitch there is a vibrant resonance, but lower the pitch and most pianos sound dull. I’ll tune to A:432 if the client wants, but it sounds like crap to me. You could design a piano soundboard and scale so it would work at a lower pitch, but it would take a skilled designer.
@echodelta9
@echodelta9 3 жыл бұрын
Most pianos made in that big bubble of the early 20th century were tuned to A435. I often wonder when we restring and put at A440.
@jbuzz8211
@jbuzz8211 3 жыл бұрын
@@echodelta9 True! I used to adhere to the A:435 to those pianos, but age has made most of them (unless rebuilt) sound lackluster, and bringing them to 440 seems to make them sound better. Boosendorfer says A:443, and when I’ve done that the sound seems to “pop”. It is very subjective though. Thanks for your comment! Just to clarify my comment, pianos designed for 440 and lowered to 432 sound dead to me. I’d like to try one of those old 435
@vs_830
@vs_830 2 жыл бұрын
@@jbuzz8211 you know in the past musical instruments were designed for camera use mostly where 432 was enough and brightness was not needed apriori. Open air usage change the thing.
@SpenserFromFlorida432
@SpenserFromFlorida432 2 жыл бұрын
Of course the instruments you tune were designed to sound best at A:440
@JillASim
@JillASim 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with this. It sounds dull and warped.
@alexanderfeht329
@alexanderfeht329 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up playing piano, playing violin and singing in A=432 Hz world, because in Russia at the time (1960s) tuning forks were still made according to the old Verdi's system. Now, everything played and recorded within the A=440 Hz tuning system sounds too sharp, too "bright" to me, sometimes confuses me when I try to define tonality (especially when an incorrect CD recording makes frequencies even higher), and really, practically, causes tension and even some headache. There is a big difference for me between A432 and A440 performances, the A432 music sounds more "elegant" and less "neurotic," so to speak. I am not trying to rationalize or to justify my preference by some mystical or numerological reasons. The lower tuning according to Verdi, while not being too low, is simply easier on strings and voices, therefore allowing for more expression and less exertion. Notwithstanding the BS of New Age arguments.
@andersbarfodsvaneskolan9378
@andersbarfodsvaneskolan9378 2 жыл бұрын
Nice answer. I feel 440Hz is either too high or too low for my voice' natural resonance. Former European pitch at A4=435Hz (12-TET) is a nice really nice.. not to low and not to high.. I tried A4=430Hz (12-TET) but then certain notes in the chest range of the voice sits a little too low. 435Hz strikes a good balance for my voice between the different registers of the voice using 12-TET. At one point both the Vienna and the Paris opera were using a pitch at 434Hz (1835), which seem right. At 430Hz using 12-TET i feel I go slightly sharp when trying to give power and volume to lower chest notes.. To conclude: In my opinion we should go back to the old European standard at 435Hz for the industrial standard..
@nikhillrao3799
@nikhillrao3799 Жыл бұрын
Do you have perfect pitch?
@venusblackmoon6543
@venusblackmoon6543 Жыл бұрын
You guys comments sounds better than the guy posting this video because he doesn't know what the hell he is talking about when it come to the subject of 432hz!
@glennyj65
@glennyj65 Жыл бұрын
@@nikhillrao3799 I do as a matter of fact, in 440. I often test myself against a tuner (in 440) and at 57 yrs old, I still nail it. As another poster stated, he was raised with 432. I would assume if he had perfect pitch it would be based on 432. The evicence seems to suggest that our ears sort of calibrate our brains based on what we're taught, regarding music.
@pierrebroccoli.9396
@pierrebroccoli.9396 2 ай бұрын
@@venusblackmoon6543 Exactly - how to calm a Diva Soprano down, tune the piano down to 432Hz and don't tell her about it 🤣 Wish they'd save the drama for the stage.❤
@OWitbroke
@OWitbroke 6 жыл бұрын
Whenever there is a simple title on these kinds of videos I know shits about to get real
@adrianm.853
@adrianm.853 6 жыл бұрын
OW_it_broke hell yeah
@horhewilhemson6007
@horhewilhemson6007 6 жыл бұрын
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
@personal61319
@personal61319 6 жыл бұрын
OW_it_broke ditto
@HannesRadke
@HannesRadke 6 жыл бұрын
But what about the pyramids, positioned at exactly MATH places around the world by divine forces? MATH?!
@SZebS
@SZebS 6 жыл бұрын
OW_it_broke true
@Eichro
@Eichro 6 жыл бұрын
"Things that are tuned lower sound warmer, and less strained" Thanks to you I now know the perfect tuning, 0 Hz
@Sagolel4797
@Sagolel4797 6 жыл бұрын
thats the sound of eternity
@mrbtapir
@mrbtapir 6 жыл бұрын
Eichro I think that what Sunn o))) tune their top string to.
@hilariofernandes5299
@hilariofernandes5299 6 жыл бұрын
Lucas Sebastião de Almeida Castro Oh, you don't say? We have a genius here, guys!
@DryRoastedLemon
@DryRoastedLemon 6 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, but there are people out there who think that 0 Hz is an audible and singable pitch. Several years ago I came across a video of someone "demonstrating" the 0 Hz pitch by singing it. You'd think that the comment section would be filled with people calling him out on the nonsense but it was actually filled with believers ready to comment someone to death if anyone even dared to say something rational. No, I am not kidding. Some people are just really, really stupid.
@starry_lis
@starry_lis 6 жыл бұрын
Lucas, you're wrong, it's just the sound with infinite wavelenght.
@Kriegter
@Kriegter Жыл бұрын
You can just play it a half step down, say it's 432 and people would have the same reaction
@franny231123DMT
@franny231123DMT 11 ай бұрын
hahahaha best reply to this topic ever. totally correct. people assume the indictrination given to them when they hear a change. (yet they ought know they will hear a change, i mean they it is a change!!!) hypocrisy in perception knows no bounds
@themobiusfunction
@themobiusfunction 11 ай бұрын
It wouldn't work for me though (perfect pitch)
@sjoerdassenberg7293
@sjoerdassenberg7293 11 ай бұрын
Now I want somebody to make a video where they claim to lower a piece of popular music down to 432Hz but in reality it's a different frequency. And then check the comments.
@mahlonrhoades4509
@mahlonrhoades4509 10 ай бұрын
actually 432 isn't nearly a semitone. you need to go to around 415 to get a semitone
@franny231123DMT
@franny231123DMT 10 ай бұрын
@@mahlonrhoades4509 at which point A# becomes 440 Hz 😏
@Gamernutritionfacts
@Gamernutritionfacts 3 жыл бұрын
“Sacred vibrational geometry” sounds like a name for a math rock band
@noesunyoutuber7680
@noesunyoutuber7680 3 жыл бұрын
More like a song by a math rock band.
@OsvaldoBayerista
@OsvaldoBayerista 3 жыл бұрын
More like a album of a metal shitty band.
@segmentsAndCurves
@segmentsAndCurves 2 жыл бұрын
@@OsvaldoBayerista So you mean math rock band.
@garrettklinck9127
@garrettklinck9127 2 жыл бұрын
damn your right 😂
@jhaz89
@jhaz89 4 жыл бұрын
440 killed my family but afterwards 432 adopted me and brought me into a loving home.
@Mekugii
@Mekugii 3 жыл бұрын
Wat da fuk
@BadChizzle
@BadChizzle 3 жыл бұрын
With a puppy...
@timowerner6518
@timowerner6518 3 жыл бұрын
How do you listen to music now
@toniokettner4821
@toniokettner4821 3 жыл бұрын
frostea _boi he/she made a joke about all the comments in those 440 vs 432 videos that claim that 432 allegedly sounded much better
@ValkyRiver
@ValkyRiver 3 жыл бұрын
But if we tune to 432, then it makes sense to keep tuning flatter...
@fredmachine
@fredmachine 4 жыл бұрын
So that's why Pantera tuned to ~430 Hz. I mean, they were known for their soft, warm, and generally pleasant sound firmly rooted in gaian vibrations and harmony.
@rgerber
@rgerber 4 жыл бұрын
fredmachine yes that was surely a Walk on A New Level
@user-zt2wc3uh1l
@user-zt2wc3uh1l 4 жыл бұрын
In addition to their messed up "scales" that include every possible dissonant note, they did indeed tune to an odd frequency, that, IMO, is certainly not a healing frequency...I used to play in a Pantera tribute band and being exposed to those frequencies every weekend for hours very loudly did indeed have a debilitating effect on my body...coulda been the complimentary shots of very hard alcohol at every gig too.
@williamkeller5836
@williamkeller5836 4 жыл бұрын
Pantera Sucks
@eliorcutt4833
@eliorcutt4833 4 жыл бұрын
William Keller how dare
@user-cj6te2oj4m
@user-cj6te2oj4m 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-zt2wc3uh1l Like the metallica scale 1 b2 2 b3 4 b5 5 b6 b7
@boredstudent9468
@boredstudent9468 2 жыл бұрын
My Harp teacher was into this stuff and had me tune down, and i kept it, cause i have all my other Instruments on 440, and imo the kind of music i usually play on harp suits a little deeper even more claming timbre.
@addammadd
@addammadd 3 жыл бұрын
1:50 was when I could start breathing again because I was taking you seriously and seriously figuring I had to stop watching your videos which I love. Thanks dude, I needed that whiplash.
@crazymetallian
@crazymetallian 3 жыл бұрын
i.... i just wanted to tune my guitar
@lizzz5267
@lizzz5267 3 жыл бұрын
JDJFKDSNF
@borisgvozdev3110
@borisgvozdev3110 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@externity9569
@externity9569 2 жыл бұрын
this killed me in my chair XD
@vivianaarose
@vivianaarose 2 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHA
@Calmique
@Calmique Жыл бұрын
:))))
@1967stp
@1967stp 5 жыл бұрын
432 is missing 8 cycles; it leaves a hole in the sound. I call it the A-hole
@Moonlakes
@Moonlakes 5 жыл бұрын
omg hahaha
@grinreaperoftrolls7528
@grinreaperoftrolls7528 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂🤣🤣😆😆😆🤣😂
@obijuan3004
@obijuan3004 4 жыл бұрын
1967stp friggin brilliant! I’m tuning my guitar to 432 to get my a-hole chakra to relax...too much cheese on that last double cheese pizza.
@pineapplewhatever5906
@pineapplewhatever5906 4 жыл бұрын
🤦‍♂️
@toneseeker87
@toneseeker87 4 жыл бұрын
Ass hole.
@Devynwithawhy
@Devynwithawhy 3 жыл бұрын
That script was breathtakingly precise, I'm reeling. Wow. You have some talent!
@mikoajp.5890
@mikoajp.5890 3 жыл бұрын
Tsahouridis (the pontic lyra guy) wrote in his dissertation as follows: traditionally, the lyra was not exactly tuned to AEB as it is today. The musicians would just tune it by ear to the pitch at which it souned good, keeping the perfect fourths between the strings. Which, to me, makes perfect sense.
@KoreanBronze
@KoreanBronze 6 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows 420 is the most cosmic number
@Stian9Tutorials
@Stian9Tutorials 6 жыл бұрын
the most euphoric
@icipher6730
@icipher6730 6 жыл бұрын
42 Hz tuning
@deadasfak
@deadasfak 6 жыл бұрын
But not because of a phony gods blessing
@aimiliosspiliopoulos1091
@aimiliosspiliopoulos1091 6 жыл бұрын
A=2^9=512 Hz It's easier for MATH.
@greysautumn398
@greysautumn398 6 жыл бұрын
Da da da da dahhhh
@Catefn
@Catefn 6 жыл бұрын
The business about singers "being divas" and not wanting to strain their voices by singing to 440 tuning would benefit from more explanation. Verdi wrote for specific kinds of voices. He scored his music with the lower tuning in order to write for an operatic voice type that had a warm, rich timbre in the middle voice that could cut through an entire orchestra without amplification. The voices had high notes but did not "live" in the upper register for pages and pages of music. These kinds of voices have their "passaggios," the register shifts that occur up and down the scale, occur at specific points in the scale. (piano strings get longer, shorter, wider thinner, and every instrument has their ability to change tube or string length for pitch)--. The higher tuning makes a singer feel like they are constantly sitting between two chairs--a bit unstable and very uncomfortable. That's what Domingo talked about when he said "strained voices." The voices wear out sooner, and what has happened with the higher tuning is that lighter and higher operatic voices have had to take on roles that are too big for them, causing another kind of strain. It is like the difference between a sprinter and a relay racer. Different sports, although related, require different kinds of athletes. Love, Mom
@FossilFishy
@FossilFishy 6 жыл бұрын
Now that's interesting, thanks. I kind of wondered why he didn't just use folks with a higher natural voice. And may I add: If my daughter turns out half so good as your son I'll count myself a lucky bloke indeed. Kudos to you.
@RalphInRalphWorld
@RalphInRalphWorld 6 жыл бұрын
Cate Frazier-Neely Thanks for your insight.
@maximyanchenko3780
@maximyanchenko3780 6 жыл бұрын
Cate Frazier-Neely why didn't he just write it a half step or even step lower? :)
@Catefn
@Catefn 6 жыл бұрын
That is a really good question. When Verdi wrote, 432 tuning wasn't even standard tuning from western country to country, even city to city, especially in Italy! Moving the opera key down would have resulted in a muddy tone and sluggishness of spirit for both the singers and the instrumentalists.
@daolchang
@daolchang 6 жыл бұрын
awesome knowledge
@ryanpenrod1859
@ryanpenrod1859 3 жыл бұрын
"If I asked you to tell me if this note was tuned to 440 or 432, would you be able to tell me without a reference?" Yes. 432.
@anchihall8852
@anchihall8852 3 жыл бұрын
#perfectpitchgang
@OsvaldoBayerista
@OsvaldoBayerista 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect pitch people don't count on this, lol.
@jaycee330
@jaycee330 2 жыл бұрын
Jacob Collier has entered the chat.
@reedplaysgames
@reedplaysgames 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t have perfect pitch but I still recognized that cuz it’s pretty far out of tune so it sounded like crap to me
@DithanBeatz
@DithanBeatz 2 жыл бұрын
@@reedplaysgames You wouldn't know if you didn't listen to music for about an hour and then that note was played. (If you don't have Perfect Pitch )
@MPSpecial
@MPSpecial 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of that day we had to play in a church with an 446-Hz tuned organ, tried playing for a couple of minutes and the oboist said “I can't take it” so we had to do with a synth
@matthewbertrand4139
@matthewbertrand4139 5 жыл бұрын
I am now starting the A=428 movement. It's warm, like a musical hug. My scientific reasoning for this movement is that hugs are nice. edit: i love all of you, and you all get hugs both physical and musical
@awildfilingcabinet6239
@awildfilingcabinet6239 5 жыл бұрын
I’m behind this
@gaetanodepaola2ndchannel179
@gaetanodepaola2ndchannel179 4 жыл бұрын
*hugs*
@mantlepicture
@mantlepicture 4 жыл бұрын
I'm going to start tuning to A=420. I have no idea how it will sound, but it's a weed reference, and I'm pretty sure that counts as wit on the internet.
@Kiwiherm
@Kiwiherm 4 жыл бұрын
100% accurate
@ignoolio12nera96
@ignoolio12nera96 4 жыл бұрын
No, A=60, so it would do stuff with generators (btw A=50 in Europe and parts of Japan because reasons)
@bajistademetal
@bajistademetal 6 жыл бұрын
Wait, a circle has 360°, so if I tune my instruments in A = 360hz I'll have a more round-ish and perfect sound!!! I'll be the new king of music
@tonyhakston536
@tonyhakston536 6 жыл бұрын
I'm your first supporter, plz give me money when you become famous
@gralha_
@gralha_ 6 жыл бұрын
Degrees is a terrible unit.
@kenzocervoni9335
@kenzocervoni9335 6 жыл бұрын
Bas's Reviews at that point it's more A#,
@bluboiblumovilestrange1621
@bluboiblumovilestrange1621 6 жыл бұрын
Kenzo Cervoni you mean A flat ?
@gralha_
@gralha_ 6 жыл бұрын
We should do A0 = e^π
@KelnelK
@KelnelK 3 жыл бұрын
I choose A=427.63Hz because then 60Hz electrical interference is in tune as a B natural, rather than the annoying B half flat drone of A=440Hz
@markdierauf6156
@markdierauf6156 Жыл бұрын
Yes, plus everyone would have a ready pitch reference by just sticking their finger in the light socket.
@banginghats2
@banginghats2 Жыл бұрын
@@markdierauf6156 But we have 50Hz interference in the UK, LOL.
@CompactStar
@CompactStar Жыл бұрын
Even better is funny A=420Hz tuning because then there's an exact 7:1 ratio between the electrical interference and A
@Anonymous-df8it
@Anonymous-df8it 11 ай бұрын
@@banginghats2 A=250*2^(3/4) Hz
@BirthQuakeRecords
@BirthQuakeRecords 3 жыл бұрын
1:48 I was worried there for a second, I can’t begin to tell you how relieved I was to hear you say this
@oscarhamilton189
@oscarhamilton189 6 жыл бұрын
Not to mention there's an inherent placebo effect when you're told 432 sounds better than 440.
@javiermedina5313
@javiermedina5313 6 жыл бұрын
in some music sounds worst at 432
@EthanCowlbeck
@EthanCowlbeck 6 жыл бұрын
Play the recordings back at the beginning. If you play the 432 version and then the 440 version, the 440 sounds better.
@prakhar9473
@prakhar9473 6 жыл бұрын
Placebo effect always mess up with rational and logical arguments :3
@mrmensje1
@mrmensje1 5 жыл бұрын
if you actually finished watching the whole vid you'd know the 432 version was actually 428
@Luchingador
@Luchingador 5 жыл бұрын
I tune at 420 every day
@salamanca1954
@salamanca1954 5 жыл бұрын
@@jazzamata Oh, My, God. Are you saying it's a matter of individual taste?! I tend to agree.
@kniefi
@kniefi 5 жыл бұрын
It might just be me, but I think "420" in this comment's context is not referring to a tonal height... But a different sort of "high" ;-)
@edGuy_
@edGuy_ 5 жыл бұрын
Uhm, it's a joke guys 😅
@TaiFerret
@TaiFerret 5 жыл бұрын
@@kniefi 420 is in the title of a famous vapourwave song. Is that what he's referring to?
@thebluegaming7706
@thebluegaming7706 5 жыл бұрын
@@TaiFerret 420 is weed
@Choral-Tenor
@Choral-Tenor Жыл бұрын
I go for G4 = 400 Hz, which is close enough to A449. That way my alternating current motors keep me in tune. This assumes the supply is stable at 50 Hz, as it always has been so far.
@DocECS69
@DocECS69 2 жыл бұрын
OK Adam you had me worried for a minute there. As an engineer, musician, and and a scientific skeptic, I saw logical flaw after flaw the first time I heard about 452. My arguments against it are similar to some of those you also got into the rigor of the arguments. Thanks a bunch for this one!
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
@ChucksSEADnDEAD 6 жыл бұрын
I only listen to music after it's been Doppler shifted.
@thingonometry-1460
@thingonometry-1460 6 жыл бұрын
Titanium Rain nyyeeeeoooooooouuuuuu
@martinisbutik
@martinisbutik 6 жыл бұрын
If you want to ruin music for people with perfect pitch just move them quickly relative to the sound source.
@drollroll
@drollroll 6 жыл бұрын
Luckily you can stop running away from it if you want; Audacity can shift the pitch to 432 Hz for you ;-)
@newtonlkh
@newtonlkh 6 жыл бұрын
leslie main speakers? what a treat~
@pylon2144
@pylon2144 6 жыл бұрын
As soon as he played all star i knew he wasn’t serious about this
@gianttigerfilms
@gianttigerfilms 5 жыл бұрын
Pylon had to go back and check omfg
@Jonathan_Price
@Jonathan_Price 3 жыл бұрын
Historical music sounds better in unequal temperaments in my opinion.. there's much more warmth and character to each key. Remember most music has been written to imitate the human voice, and the human voice is naturally just intonation.
@olivierpeartnoy
@olivierpeartnoy Жыл бұрын
Still to this day my favorite video of yours I think
@AndrewReddyMusic
@AndrewReddyMusic 6 жыл бұрын
I work as a chemist and I tune my guitar with a hunk of caesium I stole from the lab
@lassea
@lassea 6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Reddy I'm gonna bee biotech engineer in 2 years. I'll tune with anthrax. makes my bass sound more alive.
@ooDriveoo
@ooDriveoo 6 жыл бұрын
[Cesium - MSDS 343] Danger!: Water-reactive. Reacts violently with water. May cause eye and skin irritation. May cause respiratory and digestive tract irritation. May cause central nervous system effects. May cause cardiac disturbances. May ignite or explode on contact with moist air. Target Organs: Central nervous system, cardiovascular system. Potential Health Effects: Eye: Has been reported to be noninjurious when applied to rabbit eyes. Skin: No information regarding skin irritation and other potential effects was found Ingestion: May cause central nervous system effects. May cause cause autonomic disturbances, resulting in effects on the gastrointestinal tract and heart. Inhalation: May cause effects similar to those described for ingestion. Chronic: No information found.
@AndrewReddyMusic
@AndrewReddyMusic 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a research chemist therefore I only read the MSDS after an accident happens! (kinda true...)
@Astromyxin
@Astromyxin 6 жыл бұрын
That sounds kind of irresponsible. One would think that you would read that kind of information beforehand, but then again, what do I know, I'm just some responsible guy from a place somewhere.
@AndrewReddyMusic
@AndrewReddyMusic 6 жыл бұрын
You're right that is accepted protocol, occasionally people will (irresponsibly) skip this if the substance in question is part of the same class as chemicals that they are already familiar with
@CompanyOfMyself
@CompanyOfMyself 6 жыл бұрын
adam you scared the shit out of me. I really thought you actually believed this shit for a second haha
@cyberschn1tzel997
@cyberschn1tzel997 6 жыл бұрын
CompanyOfMyself i never heard of it (sure ive heard of different tunings, some orchestras still use different ones today iirc) and i thought he just wanted to trigger sone "nope its a=440" and then he tells us how its all relative and free. This video, however, was better tha expected
@corlaez
@corlaez 6 жыл бұрын
CompanyOfMyself me too (and I was deeply disappointed) he is a hell of an actor
@Yntec
@Yntec 6 жыл бұрын
My reaction to the beginning of the video was entirely different. I had already made my own investigation about it, and, other than people struggling to hit notes and violin strings breaking with A440, I concluded that A432 had no meaning... But watching Adam Neely said it was real made me doubt myself and wonder for a minute "oh... well, I guess I'll have to turn all my music into A432 after all...", so it was an actual relief to see that I was right originally. But he could have convinced me after all the videos of him I have watched, where he knows his stuff (so A432 would have been best).
@armareum
@armareum 6 жыл бұрын
I was going to add a like but noticed you're currently on 432 likes and didn't want to change it!
@corlaez
@corlaez 6 жыл бұрын
you didn't investigate enough if you doubt yourself so quickly. All the A432 madness is just a big lie spread by the Schiller institute which is founded by Lyndon LaRouche and boy he loves to lie people.
@eli-shulga
@eli-shulga 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is fascinating! Subbed and enjoying going slowly over your vids
@ssshupe
@ssshupe 2 жыл бұрын
This was one of the most entertaining and explanatory videos I've ever seen. Kudos!
@lonelypotato520
@lonelypotato520 5 жыл бұрын
Just buy a 12 string guitar, tune half the strings to 432, and half the strings to 440, lmao
@fishzillaguy
@fishzillaguy 5 жыл бұрын
So just a 12 string guitar then?
@herpderpinson6117
@herpderpinson6117 5 жыл бұрын
oh goodness
@daviddavis1322
@daviddavis1322 5 жыл бұрын
You monster
@JohnWilson-ru7xd
@JohnWilson-ru7xd 5 жыл бұрын
Best of both worlds! 😆
@wesleyzimmerman94
@wesleyzimmerman94 5 жыл бұрын
Fuck off
@JordanPurcell92
@JordanPurcell92 5 жыл бұрын
1:44 "Oh thank God he wasn't being serious."
@kelvinresch8939
@kelvinresch8939 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao I thought the same
@gtalover1233
@gtalover1233 5 жыл бұрын
Jordan Purcell I seriously thought the same, I love to brag about how good my ear is and I literally for the life of me could not find the second one more pleasing. I was beginning to get worried until I heard him say it was all bs lol
@Gunzee
@Gunzee 5 жыл бұрын
That first bit of music though, sounded bad the second time.
@Dust514rocks
@Dust514rocks 5 жыл бұрын
@@gtalover1233 I actually liked the song at both pitches for different reasons
@gtalover1233
@gtalover1233 5 жыл бұрын
Dust514rocks I guess it depends on what type of mood you feel suites the piece. If you envision the piece having a more bubbly lively tone you may prefer the other one but unless you have absoluteLY perfect pitch you will hardly be able to tell the difference
@josiahcarlitz5018
@josiahcarlitz5018 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for doing the research. Now let’s all get out there and tune to unique A’s.
@cburgess7
@cburgess7 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of flat earthers, I thought it was just a long running joke that pretty much says a person is dumb, and that flat earthers weren't actually a real thing. I was once told that if I ever found myself in an argument with one, don't try to argue back because you're never going to convince him or her that the earth is round. Again I was thinking that it was basically saying "don't argue with dumb people, because you won't convince them they're wrong", that there's no way people actually believe the earth is flat. I then lived the unfortunate day that I met a flat earther, and forgetting how it started, I thought he was playing the part of a flat earther, making a joke at his own expense to make people laugh (I do this also, make jokes at my own expense to make people laugh). After 5 minutes or so of talking and minor arguing with this guy, I realized he was serious, and remembered what that one dude told me about not engaging. He got pretty enraged that I wasn't listening to him or partipating in the argument any longer and just laughing at him. It turned into like a full on yelling match, trying to get him to shut the F up. It escalated into a rather pathetic brawl on his side. He punched me, like in the chest, so rib cage, didn't hurt. Then I flogged him right in the stomach, which made him puke and fall over. He got arrested.
@reedplaysgames
@reedplaysgames 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit that’s pretty badass
@YTTraveler777
@YTTraveler777 2 жыл бұрын
Good for you. My best friend is a flat earther. I don't know what to do.
@jasonchu4400
@jasonchu4400 2 жыл бұрын
you got into a physical altercation, with a flat earther......concerning the shape of the earth......congratulations! yah dun goof'd!
@theecharmingbilly
@theecharmingbilly 2 жыл бұрын
The irony of it all. Pay an editor.
@mr.doddlydodo3332
@mr.doddlydodo3332 6 жыл бұрын
Troll level Adam Neely
@tomrabbani
@tomrabbani 6 жыл бұрын
Last time i had a debate about A = 432Hz it lasted 2h 30 and veered into a focus on whether the Nazis were even that bad.
@LowReedExpert1
@LowReedExpert1 5 жыл бұрын
tom rabbani Godwin's Law lol
@oshikiri999
@oshikiri999 5 жыл бұрын
I ugly laughed at this 😂
@h00db01i
@h00db01i 5 жыл бұрын
well now you know why (?) _Someone or something is Fascist when trying to impose arbitrary laws or rules on others._ (Eco)
@eshaman3334
@eshaman3334 5 жыл бұрын
were they?
@jamesmantovani8620
@jamesmantovani8620 5 жыл бұрын
Yeeeeeet I'm the 400th like
@Raggo12345
@Raggo12345 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting info! I liked the 440 more. Loved the "that number" VS "this number" humor! Clever! The piano samples are "made" for 440, so to tune the samples down will change how these samples are played/heard, at a lower pitch the samples will be played slower. If this should be done 100% "correctly," an acoustic piano should be tuned down. ;) But that's too much just for an experiment... Have heard a tip about if you want your instrument to sound sharp and fresh in a band setting, a trick is to tune it 1 cent up, or at 440,5 or thereabouts? Have heard that ABBA increased the speed of the tape on their masters to give their songs a lift. Have always felt that Boney M. did the same, as well. But am not sure about it...
@Mostly_Szyslak
@Mostly_Szyslak 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe we have ear fatigue from hearing 440 our whole lives. Thanks 🙏🏼 for opening my mind. This was enlightening.
@mathewsharff4295
@mathewsharff4295 6 жыл бұрын
I really dig the twists. It gets me to come to my own conclusion, rather than just nodding my head in agreement.
@slendy9600
@slendy9600 6 жыл бұрын
Mat Sharff i thought that 440 sounded better and was wondering when the subjectivity was gonna come in. loved how things turned out
@PKMartin
@PKMartin 6 жыл бұрын
The intro had me going "Is this bullshit? It really sounds like bullshit. Hmm ok the lower tuned song sounds a bit better but is that just because I heard it second? This does sound like bullshit... OK he's cracking up it's definitely bullshit". Lots of good information in the remaining ten minutes
@definitelynotofficial7350
@definitelynotofficial7350 6 жыл бұрын
Well it got a bit too obvious when he started going about cavities and lightnings...
@pedlar6839
@pedlar6839 6 жыл бұрын
yeah, it reminds me not to just blindly follow people like an onion
@celestialmonkey
@celestialmonkey 5 жыл бұрын
Acknowledging counter-arguments is a solid rhetorical strategy. Good for videos like this
@LillianAredhel
@LillianAredhel 6 жыл бұрын
Of course it was All Star
@obamaobama2982
@obamaobama2982 5 жыл бұрын
I'm very impressed no one replied to that comment Yet
@sabouedcleek611
@sabouedcleek611 5 жыл бұрын
It is a good musical motif so he uses it
@shanemwebb84
@shanemwebb84 5 жыл бұрын
Made me chuckle... Unusual choice. Not complaining
@sabouedcleek611
@sabouedcleek611 5 жыл бұрын
@@shanemwebb84 yeah, it had a non-cyclic progression, an easy to recognize melody even in diffent timbres, it's a good example.
@ecoRfan
@ecoRfan 5 жыл бұрын
Cringeworthy despite me liking being alive at that time, I look back in horror today. 1999 was the beginning of trash culture going full throttle. There were great (and great-ish) things too then but it was on its way out. Just personal preferences.
@colec2499
@colec2499 3 жыл бұрын
Love the setup, this channel is fantastic 😂
@kris_gorski
@kris_gorski 3 жыл бұрын
I preferred the 440 version. I guess writing and producing music in that tuning for the last 40 years has somewhat conditioned my mind :). Having said that, I have recorded some artists (especially the guitar solo players) who feel that every guitar has a tuning it "likes" better. And those vary from 428 to 442 in some instances. In some countries, where standardisation isn't an issue, the tuning of the native instrument may vary from day to day.
@fudgesauce
@fudgesauce 6 жыл бұрын
Does your SO ever walk in when you are doing the "ranting new ager" segments and wonder what the hell is wrong with you?
@TheBcoolGuy
@TheBcoolGuy 6 жыл бұрын
As if he'd have one.
@denogowli
@denogowli 6 жыл бұрын
TheBcoolGuy i said he did i think.
@neonjesus8831
@neonjesus8831 6 жыл бұрын
Adam is a perpetual virgin, my dude
@bug2k4
@bug2k4 6 жыл бұрын
if you distinguish between "significant other" and "girlfriend", we might never know
@owenziegler307
@owenziegler307 6 жыл бұрын
sacred vibrational geometry
@LesPeterGuitarJam
@LesPeterGuitarJam 5 жыл бұрын
A = 420.. the cannabis tuning.. cheers..
@weirdo337
@weirdo337 5 жыл бұрын
LesPeterGuitarJam there’s the 420 joke
@otavio048
@otavio048 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao blaze it
@MrDoboz
@MrDoboz 5 жыл бұрын
gonna try it out lol
@MiaVilleneuve
@MiaVilleneuve 5 жыл бұрын
A 420 opens my third eye
@Slemmen447
@Slemmen447 5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Mozart used A=420Hz
@srpilha
@srpilha 3 жыл бұрын
You kinda had me in the first two minutes, as I caught myself thinking "man, the quality of this channel took a *dive* ." Anyway, small extra reason to try new tunings : for nearly all instruments, retuning doesn't move the formants around, so you'll have different parts of the spectrum being "filtered" by the body of the instrument if the spectrum is not at the same place as usual, which can give you some differences in timbre. (Incidentally, I believe this is part of the reason why musicians have "a bit closer to perfect" pitch on their own instrument than on others: they're used to that particular relation between pitch and timbre.)
@joeysephy
@joeysephy 3 жыл бұрын
I've never heard that stuff about formants but it makes sense. Is there a good video on it?
@ileutur6863
@ileutur6863 3 жыл бұрын
Out of all the pseudoscience and conspiracy that plagues our internet age, numerology has got to be one of the worst offenders. This belief that numbers, our human arbitrary numbers, based on our limited senses and understanding, actually say something about the universe and the infinitely complex professes that take place all around us. Number + number = meaning. How? Why? Through what method? They never say, we are given just the numbers and nothing else
@armybirds
@armybirds 3 жыл бұрын
typo pit lol
@ZipplyZane
@ZipplyZane 6 жыл бұрын
You totally fooled me! You actually got me to think you had bought into this woo. Everything you said at the beginning, before the very last one, was stuff that sounded like something you might actually believe. And so I paused the video, and wrote an explanation, saying "I can't believe you of all people fell for this." I even debated if I was going to finish the video. If I hadn't read a comment cryptically saying something about you arguing with yourself, I may not have, and have always thought you'd bought into some reasonable-sounding version of this crap. I mean, I even had a second of thinking: "could there be something about how our ears are arranged that make 432hz tuning sound better," before dismissing it. You were that good. Please never use those powers for evil!
@Sorestlor
@Sorestlor 6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing but i was like the 440 sounds better anyways. If it was a = 512 hz that might be a different story.
@cameodamaneo
@cameodamaneo 6 жыл бұрын
They both sounded equally good individually, but as Adam pointed out, the 432 sounded good in comparison but only after direct comparison.
@mycapibara
@mycapibara 6 жыл бұрын
It worries me when people like you are fooled so easily.
@ZipplyZane
@ZipplyZane 6 жыл бұрын
+mycapibara It worries me when people like you are unable to read.
@mycapibara
@mycapibara 6 жыл бұрын
I wasn't specifically addressing you
@LillianAredhel
@LillianAredhel 6 жыл бұрын
Also, if lower is better, that means djent theory is right, and why don't we tune to 1hz
@Simoran
@Simoran 6 жыл бұрын
If it's impossible for people to hear, then tuning as low as possible doesn't make it sound worse... I'm for it.
@canceroushit5933
@canceroushit5933 6 жыл бұрын
that's how I tune my metronome
@KBC7050
@KBC7050 6 жыл бұрын
Once you tune to A = 415.3 Hz you're a semitone lower and essentially at Ab = 440 Hz
@KBC7050
@KBC7050 6 жыл бұрын
This means by the way that A=1 Hz can be interpreted as A=512 Hz or F#=430.5 Hz just at a higher octave
@alazrabed
@alazrabed 6 жыл бұрын
Tyler Wolfguard -- Why stop there? Don't be scared to live. I mean, one hertz is still one million micro-hertz, plenty room for improvement...
@mm-yt8sf
@mm-yt8sf 3 жыл бұрын
whew, i'm glad you did the turnaround after the intro. while i like powers of 2, i was thinking it'd be strange that a universal constant would align with a human second...oh! you're just now saying that in the video as it type this! haha! for some reason i thought old timey A was 444Hz, but doing a google search i can't find any evidence of this (i think i just saw it on some old sheet music and thought wow..was it different back then?) anyway so that was a trivia i carried around in my head for decades but now i guess i'll just chalk it up some rogue thing i saw on a piece of paper :-)
@DJBuglip
@DJBuglip 3 жыл бұрын
Adam, a close and long-time friend died today, and you actually made me chuckle. Thank you.
@DJBuglip
@DJBuglip 3 жыл бұрын
"... and I started to vibrate..." Ahahahaha!
@atomiccompiler9495
@atomiccompiler9495 4 жыл бұрын
As a mathematician and a musician, I find a huge resemblance between the A = 432 Hz and the ”Golden Ratio Phi” communities.
@Lemme-sniff-ya
@Lemme-sniff-ya 4 жыл бұрын
The golden ratio has a community?
@atomiccompiler9495
@atomiccompiler9495 4 жыл бұрын
Maxwell Seltzer more like a cult. Some of them do plastic surgery so their face ratio would be equal to the golden ratio.
@GeorgeSPAMTindle
@GeorgeSPAMTindle 4 жыл бұрын
1.618 to 1, if anyone's interested.
@garyreidmusic
@garyreidmusic 3 жыл бұрын
440/432=1.0185185185
@martinpaddle
@martinpaddle 3 жыл бұрын
or related to that, the Fibonaccis
@elonmush4793
@elonmush4793 5 жыл бұрын
so, when is Vox gonna rip off this one? ;)
@psd993
@psd993 5 жыл бұрын
Hey they invited him on recently!
@bored_person
@bored_person 5 жыл бұрын
Since when do they rip off other KZbinrs?
@jacobsarvathayaparan2337
@jacobsarvathayaparan2337 5 жыл бұрын
@@bored_person it's a joke coming from some ppl saying they ripped off his video on the US anthem which Adam has seen has actually stated he doesn't view it as a rip off so *shrugs*
@trummelbach6065
@trummelbach6065 8 ай бұрын
09:00 - When buying it, you get a PDF document explaining the standard and how to comply to it. Of course, in this case, it is a very short document, containing only 1 single page. So 38 francs is quite a bit expensive. But I guess it is a standardized price for standards :)
@pisnickarmoderator
@pisnickarmoderator 3 жыл бұрын
the best video ever made to this topic. Thank you
@NoTraceOfSense
@NoTraceOfSense 6 жыл бұрын
A=432: smallest brain A=440: normal brain A=420: universal brain
@arimago
@arimago 6 жыл бұрын
NoTraceOfSense A=2^(8,75): brain playing sax
@AmaraLunaera
@AmaraLunaera 5 жыл бұрын
A=420 ends up basically as A=Ab! I accidentally did it with my tuner once and found I'd managed to tune a semitone lower than my other guitarist 😂
@sheepshoe
@sheepshoe 5 жыл бұрын
A=415: transcendent brain
@Cr8Tron
@Cr8Tron 5 жыл бұрын
Andy Wears Basically. But Ab (in relation to A440) would be a lot closer to 415 Hz. Approximately 415.3 Hz., to be more precise.
@cheesecakelasagna
@cheesecakelasagna 5 жыл бұрын
Rick & Morty brain
@Fjaka
@Fjaka 6 жыл бұрын
This is like Vsauce, but for music and that's a compliment.
@orko9
@orko9 6 жыл бұрын
Antonio Ivan Šangulin I was thinking the exact same thing
@accountdefunct4193
@accountdefunct4193 6 жыл бұрын
I think that's why he was suggested for me then!!
@accountdefunct4193
@accountdefunct4193 6 жыл бұрын
radzewicz I'm in touch with that but I am a but more interested in what Vsauce covers in his videos. Both are very intelligent people and cover interesting things but I'm not well versed enough in the videos of Adam to compare him to Michael well
@BettyAlexandriaPride
@BettyAlexandriaPride 6 жыл бұрын
I love Vsauce, Vsauce2, and Vsauce3. :)
@michaelreis8266
@michaelreis8266 6 жыл бұрын
Antonio Ivan Šangulin Are you sure it's not a condiment, lol
@smergthedargon8974
@smergthedargon8974 3 жыл бұрын
3:50 Weirdly, I found neither of these to be particularly stable.
@mr88cet
@mr88cet 3 жыл бұрын
The most-clearly-audible effect of messing around with absolute pitch is to force woodwind-instrument performers to *strain* to “lip” up or down the pitches of their instruments, most of which are designed to play A=440Hz. (Yes yes, I know that some are designed for A=442Hz, for example, and you occasionally run into “vintage” instruments tuned to 435 or 457.)
@burnttaco7773
@burnttaco7773 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing Allstar Rendition at 1:03
@BeyondtheRecord
@BeyondtheRecord 6 жыл бұрын
OH GOD! I DIDN'T NOTICE! haahahahahahahahahhahahahah
@demian5036
@demian5036 6 жыл бұрын
I thought that it was "nothing gonna stop us now"
@JoolsGuitar
@JoolsGuitar 6 жыл бұрын
so it means A=432 is not gluten free?
@digitaldeathsquid3448
@digitaldeathsquid3448 5 жыл бұрын
Neither is it vegan
@brewskituesdays7954
@brewskituesdays7954 5 жыл бұрын
As someone with Celiac disease, I can confirm that A=432 is NOT gluten free
@keepyourshoesathedoor
@keepyourshoesathedoor 5 жыл бұрын
JoolsGuitar *WHEEZE*
@ItaliansShredsBetter
@ItaliansShredsBetter 4 жыл бұрын
It's got palm oil too!
@OfficialKennyRivers
@OfficialKennyRivers 4 жыл бұрын
JoolsGuitar BRUUUUH
@martinbalage9225
@martinbalage9225 3 жыл бұрын
3:47 ... I actually like the attitude of that wolf fifth. Could we somehow utilize (in music) more tunings, using "intervals" that are maybe otherwise alien to a single tuning system? Is there some basis (other than a single shared ' home' tuning/interval system) that would need to satisfied or some rules formulated (discovered already) that would inform us how far or where we can go, or rather what those extensions would do and what they would/could mean? (Musically)
@timchambers8947
@timchambers8947 2 жыл бұрын
The old electronic organ at one church was tuned to 438Hz so everybody had to tune their instruments to the same 438Hz (except the drummer). We could not tell what was 440 & what was 438 in isolation but play them together & something sounds out of tune. It doesn't matter what you choose, as long as EVERY melodic instruments was tuned to the same frequency for the same relative note (some instruments are tuned with a 1 or more semitone shifts). At around 416 the semitone below & above are around 24Hz (Ab=392.652, A=416, Bb=440.737) so changes between 392 & 440 represent approx. 2 semitone range for shifting key. A440 tuning has G=391.995, Ab=415.305, A=440.000, Bb=466.164 2 notes sounded together will have a repeating beat with pulse of slightly louder then softer (coinciding peaks=beat) to the frequency of the difference between the 2 notes (eg. A+Ab = 440Hz-415.305Hz = 24.695 Hz beat). This becomes very noticeable for 2 lower notes close together so the beat is
@samuraiguitarist
@samuraiguitarist 6 жыл бұрын
Like minds think a-great ;-)
@CramOddu
@CramOddu 6 жыл бұрын
samuraiguitarist it's scary that you and Adam both released videos with nearly identical subject matter on the same day...conspiracy?
@candle_nine
@candle_nine 6 жыл бұрын
Was also my thought when I saw both of your videos next to each other in my feed. :D
@giltyakhtar
@giltyakhtar 6 жыл бұрын
atleast you did it first.
@ChrisComstock612
@ChrisComstock612 6 жыл бұрын
This seriously tripped me out. I guess it's a case of pure coincidence
@einarabelc5
@einarabelc5 6 жыл бұрын
samuraiguitarist Have you checked the German version?
@dmartire99
@dmartire99 6 жыл бұрын
SMH, so mad that Adam didn't talk about how A432 can repair our DNA
@Reydriel
@Reydriel 6 жыл бұрын
dman5202 That makes absolutely no sense at all XD
@wfd87
@wfd87 6 жыл бұрын
it completely ruins the joke when you explain it...
@jantonisito
@jantonisito 8 ай бұрын
I was about to say "what are you smoking, Adam?"
@jeremyveverka146
@jeremyveverka146 Жыл бұрын
Another good 432 hz video (I guess this is your first video on the subject, but I watched your videos in opposite order, both videos are good and worth watching!) You make several important points in this video. First of all, the Schumann resonance, if it is even relevant to how we perceive music, and there is no evidence that it is, is NOT 8 hz as is claimed, it is aproximately 7.83 hertz, and while a human might casually consider these two numbers to be "close enough," they actually aren't that close, at least for the purposes of this discussion. Even more importantly, you rightly bring up the point that our measurement of time, the second, and its mathematical inverse, the Hertz, are completely arbitrary. So the actual numerical value of a given pitch in hertz is arbitrary based on how the hz is defined by humans. An alien species with a different measurement of time might say an A note at 440hz is actually 752.79228 Alien-Hertz. Oh and this says nothing of what base we use in our counting system. Modern humans use base 10. The number 440 in base-10 could be expressed in base-12, base-60, binary (base-2), or base-whatever-you-want. It's all arbitrary, so their is no reason to think a hz value that is a whole number is any more elegant or "natural" than a hz value that includes some long decimal place.
@gizhaz77
@gizhaz77 5 жыл бұрын
*Agruement between A=432Hz and A=440Hz* Musicians: Ahh shit, here we go again.
@celestialmonkey
@celestialmonkey 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's especially annoying for musicians, or really anyone who understands the physics of sound. Constantly see these bullshit 432hz versions for music I like and the comments are full of "duuuuude idk what's different but this is way better" It's like, it's 8hz lower, that's the difference lol
@tendrax
@tendrax 4 жыл бұрын
@@celestialmonkey My favorites are the people who say that no one can hear the difference, but it just feels better. That is you hearing the difference, bro.
@celestialmonkey
@celestialmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
@@tendrax No it's placebo for people who don't understand what they are listening to. A trained listener can easily hear the 8 Hz difference, it just doesn't sound any better or worse
@flutterwind7686
@flutterwind7686 4 жыл бұрын
Why not A=431, or A=433, why an arbitrary A=432
@toneseeker87
@toneseeker87 4 жыл бұрын
Wut
@jond3929
@jond3929 6 жыл бұрын
VERY IMPORTANT: Cat stands up and stretches at 2:45.
@ciarfah
@ciarfah 5 жыл бұрын
Jon D thank you
@cheesecakelasagna
@cheesecakelasagna 5 жыл бұрын
the only part in the video I can understand.
@YourNeighborhoodCaat
@YourNeighborhoodCaat 5 жыл бұрын
Jon D My chakras just aligned from this information. Namaste.
@Hexagy
@Hexagy 5 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@DerekReed
@DerekReed 5 жыл бұрын
*whispers* This PBS cat video brought to you by the Jon D and Catherine T MacArthur Foundation
@johnpcomposer
@johnpcomposer Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this Adam. I am a bit skeptical people who suggest (on KZbin) that they are really able to hear that equal temperament is out of tune...as if they are so pure in their perceptions of pitch...there are a few people who can distinguish pitch that minutely...but most of us are not attuned to the music of the spheres. What's important is that music is in tune with itself, relatively speaking. As for Verdi and the demand for 432hz without electronics how would they have measured the precise frequency of an A?
@PTNLemay
@PTNLemay Жыл бұрын
I think that buying the standard means you're allowed to officially reference it in research papers and stuff.
@stefanf922
@stefanf922 5 жыл бұрын
You could make just as valid an argument for 439, it's a prime number, therefore it's true mathematical purity, cosmic man.
@AlbertKimMusic
@AlbertKimMusic 4 жыл бұрын
How do I read your comment right as he spoke about 439
@MyHabbits
@MyHabbits 4 жыл бұрын
πeφ2^5 Hz. My number has π, e and golden ratio in it, your argument is invalid.
@konev13thebeast
@konev13thebeast 4 жыл бұрын
when that was actually the average before they officially made it 440
@MaemiNoYume
@MaemiNoYume 6 жыл бұрын
A = 420
@generalkenobi6869
@generalkenobi6869 6 жыл бұрын
Maemi No Yume G=420 G=green
@yarlodek5842
@yarlodek5842 6 жыл бұрын
Best dead meme
@papi1050
@papi1050 6 жыл бұрын
Actually G# = 420
@meemo4556
@meemo4556 6 жыл бұрын
A=666hz
@papi1050
@papi1050 6 жыл бұрын
E is actually 666hz
@MVHPlank
@MVHPlank 3 жыл бұрын
I bookmarked this video a few days ago and watched it last night ... because, FIDDLES. Thank you for a new and useful term, "tone inflation." I'm a fan and participant in up-close and personal, small-venue music, like a local Irish pub session and the occasional contra dance (closely related to Irish cèilidh dances). The danged fiddle players generally tune a bit sharp because they claim it sounds better than a bit flat. The stringed instruments can tune any whichaway they want, but fixed-tuning instruments like accordions and concertinas play the way they were built and that's pretty much that. I play neither stringed, nor keyboard, nor bellow-powered instruments. I play flute and whistle. There's a good bit of flexibility in the ability to play in tune with others by adjusting my embouchure ... except in the case of my favorite and cherished instrument: my 1916 W.S. Haynes WOOD keyed Boehm-system flute (closed hole, offset G, C foot). When properly set up, it is seriously more flat than the fixed-tone instruments. A 432? A 435? Never mind that it has action to die for, a warm sound, and easily reaches any note asked of it. (Jamming the head stop down almost to the embouchure hole mitigates the flatness somewhat, but can affect whether the flute is in tune with itself.) Alas, at 105 years old, the tuning wars have left it in the dust. So it sits safe at home while the younger Gemeinhardt school flutes take their chances with beer baptisms and risk of drops and dents. Which reminds me ... I once said to my flute instructor, "Well, how do we know how they tuned their instruments, with no recordings?" She snapped back, "We have Bach's tuning forks." Wait, we do? Where are they? What to they say about A432/440? So, thanks for some interesting content. I'm enjoying it quite a lot.
@dave-d
@dave-d 2 жыл бұрын
Bang on dude. Could it be that travelling with instruments from country to country possibly had effects on tuning due to differing climate? The pitch could have been relative to location. Musicians may have just tuned for the best tone in a given location. Props to all my metal shredding mates who tune guitars to Eb!
@efkastner
@efkastner 6 жыл бұрын
"We don't percieve pitch in a vacuum" so, so true. You need a fluid for the pressure waves to propagate through.
@joshgunn1973
@joshgunn1973 6 жыл бұрын
kind of a irrelevant argument though, we don't perceive the frequency of a sound wave in a vacuum because the sound wave cant travel through a vacuum. Do you like this song? Well I wouldn't be able to hear it in a vacuum. GG
@ConnorNolan
@ConnorNolan 5 жыл бұрын
Josh Gunn woosh
@MsTh5
@MsTh5 5 жыл бұрын
Vacuum isn't empty it exist out of a gas of quantum particles.
@frotaur
@frotaur 5 жыл бұрын
Damn we got so many Einsteins in these comments
@celestialmonkey
@celestialmonkey 5 жыл бұрын
I want to send this video to people to debunk 432hz, but I'm scared they wont watch past 1:50 lol
@sebastiangonzalez5522
@sebastiangonzalez5522 5 жыл бұрын
Same here
@purpleplus678
@purpleplus678 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@isaacmaxwell5082
@isaacmaxwell5082 4 жыл бұрын
This video is testing placebo. This is false information.
@celestialmonkey
@celestialmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
@@isaacmaxwell5082 432Hz is exactly what it says it is. The same thing 8 Hz down. There is absolutely nothing special about it as a tuning. Please actually listen to the explanations in the video.
@lady4191
@lady4191 4 жыл бұрын
I watched the whole thing utter rubbish
@Cyrius01
@Cyrius01 4 ай бұрын
Awesome video. And we also experience the frequencies as sound pressure in the physical world. So really it is more about tuning the frequency to the resonance of the drywall!!!! :-)
@beaconoftruthtarot
@beaconoftruthtarot 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this well-thought out explanation of the difference. I happen to be someone who absolutely believes in sacred geometry and numerology, but TRY AS I MIGHT, I have never been able to discern the (emotional?) difference between these two frequencies... I figured I must not be that sensitive. 😆 What you've said here makes a lot of sense!
@mattsnyder4754
@mattsnyder4754 5 жыл бұрын
I played in an ensemble that used 432 simply because there was a really nasty resonance in the room at 440; and 432 dodged it.
@deadbabiesinvomit
@deadbabiesinvomit 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Because the Soundwave is better in 432hrts
@Tortualex
@Tortualex 5 жыл бұрын
@@deadbabiesinvomit No, because everything has a frecuency, and the room had a lot of natural harmonics of the 440 tuning, In that case the 440 is more harmonic than 432. The only thing that affects music sense is the temperament, the relation beetwen sounds, 432 has the same relationships than 440 just a bit lower in therms of cents.
@matthewbertrand4139
@matthewbertrand4139 5 жыл бұрын
@@deadbabiesinvomit I'm about to inflict upon you 432 hurts.
@deadbabiesinvomit
@deadbabiesinvomit 5 жыл бұрын
Ok then smart arses ,cept Matt Snyder. A=432hrts in true sine. Scientistific fact. So suck on that n go do ur homework before just sticking up for Adam. Coz Adam is an ok teacher. But being self opinionated about something he obviously doesn't understand. Is not good teaching. True sine people. True sine. The institutionak swines introduced 440hrtz .it's not no fucking Hippie Shit! Fucking morons. Do ur homework. Centuries of musicians must have been just stupid cunts hey. Batch must a hippy fuck stick hey. You guys are being pretentious by believing Adams poxy statements. Fools. I think Batch is alot smarter than Adam. All opera used to be in 432hrts! So suck a cock on the flop!
@matthewbertrand4139
@matthewbertrand4139 5 жыл бұрын
@@deadbabiesinvomit Actually, opera used to be in all kinds of fucking tunings because there was no standard. And what the hell do you mean by "true sine?" There's no such thing as a fake sine wave. And if you're talking about sine waves with better math, don't hold your breath, because the period of a sine wave is based on pi and thus always irrational. Seriously, I'm pretty sure you don't know what you're saying at all. Do you know how to get home? Is your name in your jacket?
@kakarotz9296
@kakarotz9296 6 жыл бұрын
My old weed dealer was a (very bad) electronic musician who was sincerely into 432 and wouldn't listen to any reason or different opinions on the subject. Total cult like attitude towards it.
@maxlow998
@maxlow998 6 жыл бұрын
Kakarotz not 420? Good thing he's not your dealer anymore
@ace-smith
@ace-smith 6 жыл бұрын
Ace Logic You should make videos on all of those things and comment @ us when you do, it would be a good view-magnet.
@rickajax
@rickajax 6 жыл бұрын
I support this idea!
@alexhennigar4969
@alexhennigar4969 6 жыл бұрын
You know a story is about to be interesting when it starts with "my old weed dealer..."
@seraphimdunn
@seraphimdunn 6 жыл бұрын
(very bad) electronic musician redundancy at its finest
@TheKaliMalia
@TheKaliMalia 2 жыл бұрын
I'm with ya 100% but ... I did enjoy both examples in the beginning 😅 one just made me feel more emotional than the other.
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