A Cheatcode for Better Arrangements: The Two Loop Rule

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Alex Rome

Alex Rome

11 ай бұрын

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MY GEAR:
DAW (Music making software): Logic Pro and Ableton Live
Studio monitors (speakers): Yamaha HS8's
Headphones: Audeze LCD X (open back)
Camera: Canon 80d
Computer: Mac Studio with M2 Ultra chip and 2 TB hardrive
Midi controller (keyboard): Komplete Kontrol 61
Interface: Scarlett Clarett 2 pre
Desk: a cheap one from ikea
Chair: also a cheap one from ikea
My favorite plugins that I use the most:
XFER Serum
Sylenth 1
Nexus 3
Kontakt
RC 20
Valhalla Shimmer
Valhalla Vintage Verb
Shaperbox 3
XFER OTT
Fab Filter Saturn 2
Fab Filter Pro C 2
Arturia Pigments
Baby Audio Comeback Kid
Output Thermal and Portal
LABS Soft Piano
Hardware that I use behind the scenes but not in videos:
Elektron Octatrack (my fav)
Elektron Digitakt
Korg Minilogue XD

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@olegkalinkin6877
@olegkalinkin6877 11 ай бұрын
The man decided to cover his ears with frying pans.
@HEARDIFFERENT
@HEARDIFFERENT 11 ай бұрын
These are nuclear weapons
@Natural_man10
@Natural_man10 11 ай бұрын
​@@HEARDIFFERENT illegal in 49 countries
@dickdiamonds3410
@dickdiamonds3410 11 ай бұрын
Based skillet head
@golden_calf
@golden_calf 11 ай бұрын
Let him cook
@Labyrinth1010
@Labyrinth1010 11 ай бұрын
Lol. Those are Audezes. Some of the best headphones money can buy.
@Changeproductions21
@Changeproductions21 3 ай бұрын
blink twice if your headphones are holding you hostage
@Slashx92
@Slashx92 13 күн бұрын
They are eating his head lmaooo
@drindy5166
@drindy5166 4 күн бұрын
👊🤣👍
@RivetHead999
@RivetHead999 2 күн бұрын
Looking like my toddler wearing my headphones.
@Thearcherfl
@Thearcherfl 2 күн бұрын
Bro turned his head with cans on ears to hear the difference. That’s how you know somebody mixes often lol
@Phegan
@Phegan 3 ай бұрын
My man out here blue balling us with no drop.
@fortadrianbeats
@fortadrianbeats 3 ай бұрын
😂
@likemostthings
@likemostthings 2 ай бұрын
lolol
@daviddunkelheit9952
@daviddunkelheit9952 29 күн бұрын
Ballin out of control…
@typical_tristar
@typical_tristar 26 күн бұрын
fax😂
@ocktxne
@ocktxne 26 күн бұрын
😭😭😭
@blackpalacemusic
@blackpalacemusic 11 ай бұрын
I love the fact that he's excited about his work and not just going through the motions.
@MDNQ-ud1ty
@MDNQ-ud1ty 10 ай бұрын
I also love the fact that so many b0ts show up in all the youtube comments. It's like after the 'vid the DS is trying to pacify the masses using the good like A1 'stake sauce'.
@Rooftopaccessorizer
@Rooftopaccessorizer 10 ай бұрын
Im glad im not the only one who felted jarred by those ghoulishly large headphones
@Fiveash-Art
@Fiveash-Art 10 ай бұрын
I've been getting annoyed lately watching a lot of these people's production tutorials ... specifically when they're rocking out, making faces, bobbing their heads to the music they're making. There's something about that ... I don't know what it is but it gets on my nerves so much. 😂 Lots of good information to be learned, but ugh .. it's just so cringeworthy to watch them do that. 🤮 .. especially when it all just sounds so canned. It's like they're telling the viewer .. "Look at how wonderful I am!" 😂 ... This dude's not too bad with it .. but I've seen a few that make me want to vomit when they start dancing and stuff.
@Rooftopaccessorizer
@Rooftopaccessorizer 10 ай бұрын
@@Fiveash-Art i feel you on this one. I support people vibing, but with a tutorial just keep it professional.
@Fiveash-Art
@Fiveash-Art 10 ай бұрын
@@Rooftopaccessorizer This dude ain't bad with it ... I had just come off this one girl's tutorial and she's always dancing and bobbing to her own stuff and it bugged the hell out of me. 😂 Also the way she talks she acts like she's cool or something... people on KZbin can be seriously annoying.
@thrutherockies3687
@thrutherockies3687 3 ай бұрын
Hi Alex. This is a great method. I have another method I usually use. I open a song I like in Ableton (mp3 from a favorite artist), then I put markers in all the places where things happen. I try to describe the feelings I experience as clearly as possible at every marker. When I have analysed the song in detail, I remove the reference track. I am left with a template that I can then fill in with my own music. Then I never get stuck in a loop and it's very inspiring.
@Chloroplastism
@Chloroplastism 3 ай бұрын
Great advice for a beginner like me, thank you ❤
@PeerleesCloud
@PeerleesCloud 3 ай бұрын
Thats actually a great idea! Thanks!
@SiEmG
@SiEmG 3 ай бұрын
very nice idea if you are practicing, but in the future you can aim to also create your own emotional story and express yourself and what you want to communicate!
@qtrax100
@qtrax100 2 ай бұрын
been writing tunes for 2 decades and never thought to do that. Nice one :)
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked Ай бұрын
Very interesting! Thanks! :3
@alexkunce2002
@alexkunce2002 5 ай бұрын
Alex: You can only repeat for two bars Daft Punk: *And I took that personally*
@SpydrXIII
@SpydrXIII 2 ай бұрын
sometimes you need a good zone out song, daft is great for psychedelics where you zone out a lot.
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked Ай бұрын
​@@SpydrXIIITrue. I was born in 89, and grew up with them. Hehe.
@NiiColaOfficial
@NiiColaOfficial 25 күн бұрын
They do, but tthey still follow the rule by adding/removing layers to keep it interesting
@cr4ckrocksteady
@cr4ckrocksteady 2 күн бұрын
I know you're talking about "Around The World" but part of the reason that song still did well is because of the fact the automation / effects throughout the track actually still encompass the theory being described in this video despite the melody repeating over and over.
@alexkunce2002
@alexkunce2002 Күн бұрын
@@cr4ckrocksteady Oh, totally! I love Daft Punk, especially Human After All (the album, although I like the track too) which also has a lot of long, looping songs like Around the World. It's all in the genius production and the automation.
@VinceFinemMusic
@VinceFinemMusic 9 ай бұрын
I love how he loves his own work and the fact that he isn't trying to constantly GAS up his viewers to buy more gear and software they don't need. He just helps us work with what we already have and make things better.
@RedceLL1978
@RedceLL1978 4 ай бұрын
Were you paid to say that or something, it seems so fake
@saberleaf3659
@saberleaf3659 3 ай бұрын
​​@@RedceLL1978 Seems genuine ive jumped across plent of different tutorials and this one didnt drop a single tip to. "First you should probably get this, this, and that.. dont forget this $100 audio kit. And $300 studio grade headphones so you can hear your work better" etc. he was straight to the point and very informative about this whole arrangement rule.
@simplicityd8703
@simplicityd8703 3 ай бұрын
I know no reverse cymbal sounds is so nice I can't believe I'm saying this now internet has sunk low :(
@VinceFinemMusic
@VinceFinemMusic 3 ай бұрын
@@simplicityd8703 you said something nice, you must be a paid shill!
@MinhLe-ej9ji
@MinhLe-ej9ji 3 ай бұрын
@simplicityd8703 Seems more genuine than your comment.
@BenStoneking
@BenStoneking 5 ай бұрын
He’s having fun and enjoying the ride with us! He’s like a millennial Bob Ross with a midi keyboard instead of brushes. ❤
@lgmediapcsalon9440
@lgmediapcsalon9440 4 ай бұрын
He's panhandling his dubious wares, nothing more. Bob Ross had some skill, this guy does not. If he did, he'd be successful, which he isn't.
@twistandturn02
@twistandturn02 26 күн бұрын
⁠he's promoting a course sure, but he's also offering something useful, unlike your comment.
@JonathanRodriguez-rr8rg
@JonathanRodriguez-rr8rg 3 сағат бұрын
glazing is crazy
@karmabasedj8184
@karmabasedj8184 11 ай бұрын
Man everytime he says "isnt it pretty".."isnt it beautiful", I literally get hyped up and I am smiling like him haha..... Also dont keep us hanging without the drop! This needs to be a finished piece :-P
@JUNO.caprii
@JUNO.caprii 11 ай бұрын
you can't help but smile and he knows how to get emotion out of music i love it
@jenfletcher6870
@jenfletcher6870 11 ай бұрын
he gives Bob Ross vibes
@sonicsnout
@sonicsnout 11 ай бұрын
He's like the Bob Ross of EDM production 😄
@DdudeSnake13
@DdudeSnake13 8 ай бұрын
we need the drop still! @alexrome
@tadeszlachanyi4310
@tadeszlachanyi4310 7 ай бұрын
It has a drop, it's called Sideways by Illenium, he was kind of remaking the song
@mkirbymusic
@mkirbymusic 10 ай бұрын
Dude has been doing this for so long and is STILL providing super valuable videos. Cheers to you Alex 🍻
@JakeAdkinsOfficial
@JakeAdkinsOfficial 4 ай бұрын
Came for the concept, stayed for the production. This track is BEAUTIFUL ❤
@felixmarques
@felixmarques 9 ай бұрын
If you listen to Gaga's first album, The Fame, which is a near-perfect album of 2000s Europop, you realize that part of what makes the songs so insanely catchy is that you can break every section (verse, prechorus, etc.) into “couplets”. Every chord loop, or bassline loop, or vocal melody, happens twice so you can learn it before switching. Stuff like “Poker Face” or “Just Dance” truly are masterclasses on this.
@jacksonelh
@jacksonelh 7 ай бұрын
lady gaga's european?
@RecTec77
@RecTec77 4 ай бұрын
@@jacksonelh Is Eric Clapton black?
@ImSquiggs
@ImSquiggs 4 ай бұрын
I have a theory that the reason why Mr. Brightsides is so insanely popular is due to the fact they essentially play the entire song twice.. full verse and chorus and then just doing the same thing again
@willia_music
@willia_music 3 ай бұрын
@@ImSquiggs true, but it's the bridge/build up to the last chorus builds tension and adds excitement to finally come back to the familiar. It's that extra 'waiting' to finally belt out in chorus with an easy to remember hook is what makes it work
@ImSquiggs
@ImSquiggs 3 ай бұрын
@@willia_music You're definitely right about that being one of the most compelling parts of the song, and I agree. I was trying to touch on the repetition as a possible reason why you can listen to it just once and already have it stuck in your head.
@JeffoftheShout
@JeffoftheShout 11 ай бұрын
Bro! This is so helpful for me! I’ve been having writers block for years now, and I’ve been tired of just making four bar loops etc. so I had stopped even trying to make original music. But this has definitely inspired me to carry on. Thank you!! 🙏
@twatmunro
@twatmunro 11 ай бұрын
What this guy above said.
@therealkruz
@therealkruz 11 ай бұрын
@@twatmunro what the guy above this guy said
@PepeandtheBandits
@PepeandtheBandits 11 ай бұрын
Very very helpful thank you.
@ThreadedNail
@ThreadedNail 11 ай бұрын
Every time you make a song you create something that has never been done before. You got this.
@6lu5ky86
@6lu5ky86 4 ай бұрын
Can relate!
@ktreier
@ktreier 3 ай бұрын
This 10 minute video is most useful thing I’ve seen in the last 12 months.
@KazilikFire
@KazilikFire 3 ай бұрын
I’ve seen a few videos that say «after each 8 bar, change the melody» and it never got into me and i still struggled. 4 years and i find this, it makes so much sense and maybe will help me actually start making music💀 I try but always stop because i get stuck and don’t find a good enough video to help me progress. So i give up easily😢
@ktreier
@ktreier 3 ай бұрын
@@KazilikFire we all have the same problem early on. Start by finishing and releasing a short track. Feel good about that. Work your way up.
@jeanaguzarov
@jeanaguzarov 2 ай бұрын
Confirmed
@brianclinton5720
@brianclinton5720 9 ай бұрын
This is wonderful stuff. Great explanation and very helpful. You did say that there were only two ways to make a change in the next section though, adding/subtracting instruments or adding/subtracting expression, and I’d add three more: 1. Moving to another harmonic area, 2. Changing the melodic content to a responsive or broadening line, 3. Change rhythmic content (particularly melodic or harmonic rhythms).
@AwesomeOpenSource
@AwesomeOpenSource 11 ай бұрын
Your joy, and how you describe the emotion you're feeling is so refreshing and awesome. Thanks for this video.
@marioCazares
@marioCazares 11 ай бұрын
You explain everything so simply and clearly seriously thank you for all the incredible videos
@Mecha-ddafi
@Mecha-ddafi 11 ай бұрын
The part about entry and exit points of transitions is huge. For me, drum fills are really vital for making a smooth transition for the type of music I make. Sometimes 2 guitar parts don't mix back-to-back until you have a nice fill leading into the next riff. Very helpful video!
@poupeuu
@poupeuu 4 ай бұрын
Bro used landmines for headphones
@dibberdabber6217
@dibberdabber6217 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Unison_Detune
@Unison_Detune 11 ай бұрын
This is blunt and upfront. I get lost in subtlety and nuance. This vid spells it out. Your arrangement needs to give cues as to the rise and fall in energy of the track. Thank you Alex, it is rare to be able to make something so simple and obvious. Subscribed.
@Jacob-2796
@Jacob-2796 3 ай бұрын
What feels like nuance is actually just muddy unclear thinking
@LeoCoyote1685
@LeoCoyote1685 11 ай бұрын
Love the track you made in the lesson! It really shows how even the smallest things make the biggest difference. It's giving mellow vacation home
@kubita-thecall8795
@kubita-thecall8795 11 ай бұрын
True hey. As I was listening, the rapper inside of me started jamming 😎✌️
@tereseabannister4176
@tereseabannister4176 11 ай бұрын
I freaking love EVERY SINGLE one of your videos! Just saying! You made me love to write/compose EDM. My husband did not like EDM until I started writing it how you taught me. I am a music producer/composer and I traditionally lean towards more orchestral composing but ever since I started following you, I have fallen in love with EDM and have sold even more music. Thank you!!
@MrReverie
@MrReverie 6 ай бұрын
Do you know what DAW he uses
@LukeSly91
@LukeSly91 5 ай бұрын
Logic
@lgmediapcsalon9440
@lgmediapcsalon9440 4 ай бұрын
As fake as they come. look at all those likes. lol "I traditionnally lean towards more orchestral composing" lolol what a complete farce. You couldn't compose a single movement to save your own life. Prove me wrong.
@davidletarte214
@davidletarte214 24 күн бұрын
i think of all the youtube music channels i've seen this guy is one of the most helpful for electronic music - doesn't get bogged down by concepts or semantics & always demonstrates with real-time, visual examples.
@t-rexngatokorua8733
@t-rexngatokorua8733 11 ай бұрын
Ive had a hard creatove block for years. Seeing your pov of arrangements has kinda shined a new light on the way i look at my arrangements. I now feel more inspired ! Thanks for the video!
@Sundin1995
@Sundin1995 11 ай бұрын
i cannot tell you how badly i needed to see this video! my arrangement has been killing me and this is gonna help me so so much! thanks Alex!
@rodparker7436
@rodparker7436 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. You’re having fun. It shows in your on screen vibes
@jesperek93
@jesperek93 11 ай бұрын
Ive never felt the music while learning the way you do Alex. You are great and your taste is impeccable. And ofcourse, once again, my production skills have increased with ATLEAST 20% much love!
@PAGE-sh2df
@PAGE-sh2df Ай бұрын
I love the way he broke down the process. The method he's created is beautiful
@lmcmulle
@lmcmulle 10 ай бұрын
Such a wonderful tutorial, mate. Just great arrangement tips for all styles.
@jaybrypto
@jaybrypto 11 ай бұрын
I love your videos Alex. This sort of thing is applicable no matter what style of music you produce and no matter how long you've been producing. Excellent!
@godowskygodowsky1155
@godowskygodowsky1155 11 ай бұрын
I would say that this framework is one of many ways of writing music. There are other ways of structuring an arrangement, and the two bar rule might not be idiomatic in certain styles. Still, it's a nifty trick for elaborating on four chord loops.
@themanfromvolantis
@themanfromvolantis 10 ай бұрын
This is GOLD. Not only solid tips but your blatant adoration of music is verrry infectious.
@simonwarren9855
@simonwarren9855 5 күн бұрын
You explain this all in a way most other music producers on KZbin don’t - it’s not music theory, but it’s also not the “idk lol play around and see what sounds good” attitude that a lot of others have. The way you talk about music production in this video reminds me of the way that my art instructors in college (visual fine arts major) would talk about art, and that clicks with me
@destinyjohnson6785
@destinyjohnson6785 11 ай бұрын
I love your use of words to describe things. You bring a lot of emotion to the music theory and practice. EDM is one style I want to use but I am curious if I will find any help like yours in other genres
@s3rbal47
@s3rbal47 2 ай бұрын
I love your energy man, so soft yet passionate. Great vid!
@kacklerot
@kacklerot 3 ай бұрын
Dude, you send off some good vibes. This is an excellent demonstration too. Great work!
@famousoriginal7971
@famousoriginal7971 5 ай бұрын
This is rock-solid, quick practical advice. Thank you.
@whatilearnttoday5295
@whatilearnttoday5295 4 ай бұрын
Too rock-solid. So rock-solid it's boring. Throw away the grid.
@katecosettevocals
@katecosettevocals 3 ай бұрын
I loved this! it was amazing and loved your own energy while working. thanks for this!
@spectrebeats0007
@spectrebeats0007 4 ай бұрын
Doing a music production course rn and one of my teachers just talked about this two weeks ago. It's so useful and so important when making music. Easy ideas he gave for what to change would be transposing the melodies down or up an octave or reversing them or even as simple as cutting layers and adding a filter to the section. Defenitely good advice and practice to have for music production.
@gerwin1991
@gerwin1991 9 сағат бұрын
I watched this whole video with a smile. Your genuine enthusiasm is catching.
@juaninbits
@juaninbits 11 ай бұрын
This video is not only helpful for music production, but also very helpful for Live Looping Performances 👌🏻 And I’m very excited for applying it in my live loopings ♥ thank you very much :D
@GreenhamGuitar
@GreenhamGuitar 11 ай бұрын
Totally! Also why I'm here 😂
@JakeBeck
@JakeBeck 11 ай бұрын
For sure! There's def more leniency for live looping though as to how far you can stretch it though. 4 or 8 im sure is fine, even 16
@lgmediapcsalon9440
@lgmediapcsalon9440 4 ай бұрын
mozart spinning in his grave right now. Let's hear your wonderful productions! Post them! give links! You can't. Because you have none. oh yeah 16 bars of repeat, mindblowing.
@juaninbits
@juaninbits 4 ай бұрын
@@lgmediapcsalon9440 xD
@theneonpact9496
@theneonpact9496 11 ай бұрын
Another easy rule is try to add or change anything about every 30 seconds. It can be a one-shot sample, a little flair melody, a riser/downriser, parameter automation, remove/add elements/layers. There are a way more options if you're working with synthesizers due to all of their parameters being customizable.
@helisoma
@helisoma 10 ай бұрын
yes sometimes i study the timing of edm tracks to see when they change something and it's often the 30 second point which at 120 bpm is around 16 bars
@Morteza_Jahan
@Morteza_Jahan 7 ай бұрын
@@helisoma He's a great producer, but don't you think at intro after first loop, the second loop got a bit boring?
@augusto7681
@augusto7681 3 ай бұрын
​@@Morteza_Jahan He did the loop just to show his technique, not all loops are interesting enough to be heard infinity times. The vocals also usually distract us from the repetitive background so we it don't become boring too fast.
@LogixFive
@LogixFive 8 ай бұрын
Ive been obsessed over all your great informative content. Very well done Alex!
@dynamiketiger
@dynamiketiger 4 ай бұрын
Very helpful! Love how you dive into the psychology of how we expect something and the ways to change that so we are surprised:)
@LionEatsCats0034
@LionEatsCats0034 3 ай бұрын
I LITERALLY SCREAMED OMG! I literally just took a break from creating my first chord progression because I was exhausted and couldn’t figure out what to do next. Then your video popped up and my mind is blown lol
@darrenhirst9900
@darrenhirst9900 2 ай бұрын
You created your first chord and said that' fire 🔥🚒
@Overxpossed
@Overxpossed 11 ай бұрын
Wow... incredible how you compose music so fast and well. I think you forgot to verbally repeat, that every change/add you put in your song, is each 2 loops, following the rule. But it can be noticed in the Playlist. Great idea bro!!! Thank you for sharing it!
@zeronyne
@zeronyne 2 ай бұрын
What a simple and straightforward (and positive) video showing a very practical foundational technique. Very impressed by how you structure your content!
@josephn3496
@josephn3496 3 ай бұрын
Really appreciate someone making a video on arrangement, so important
@wingoshack
@wingoshack 11 ай бұрын
Nice! I have a similar rule, I always think of it as the "Aphex Twin rule", because it occurred to me listening to him. Something has to change at least every 4 bars to keep interest.
@magnopere
@magnopere 4 ай бұрын
The Venetian Snares rule: something has to change every half bar 😂
@wingoshack
@wingoshack 4 ай бұрын
@@magnopere 🤣🤣🤣
@magicsofa
@magicsofa 11 күн бұрын
It doesn't HAVE to. A rule like this is really just a guideline. It can be followed, or ignored.
@wingoshack
@wingoshack 11 күн бұрын
@@magicsofa lol obviously. No one said you have to follow anything, it's not literally the law. Just how I happen to approach things. ✌
@mikehart1229
@mikehart1229 5 ай бұрын
Those are the biggest studio headphones I've ever seen
@chromosundrift
@chromosundrift 28 күн бұрын
Dude I watch a lot of yt production how to vids and you are very good. The combo of usefulness, sophistication, taste and communication skill is killer. Thank you. Subbed.
@kozihoppy
@kozihoppy 4 ай бұрын
Arrangement tips are always welcome. Thanks for sharing!
@RJ_Eckie
@RJ_Eckie 11 ай бұрын
Listen, I really wanted to poke fun at that absolite waffle-iron of a pair of headphones… but this is one of those rare videos that is actually offering up simple, valuable and immediately practical advice. Very very cool!!
@Helyx525
@Helyx525 11 ай бұрын
🤣🧇🎧
@sandeity
@sandeity 6 ай бұрын
Hard agree, but I can't NOT make fun of them...
@darrenrobinson8317
@darrenrobinson8317 11 ай бұрын
interesting stuff, I like this kind of video because your concentrating on arranging a track instead of just one section.
@NikadaNK
@NikadaNK 4 ай бұрын
This video is actually insanely helpful! Subconsciously I've been producing around this rule but now that I can define it my music is going to sound SO much better. Thank you Alex!!!
@combolarge
@combolarge 10 ай бұрын
I love this guide, but more than that I love your excitement. Great video!!
@haydenjames5244
@haydenjames5244 11 ай бұрын
Clearly having goofy headphones makes u a better producer. This is actually such a good video. Ur very good at teaching. Straight to the point and easy to follow along. Nice work!
@supernaturalc1d784
@supernaturalc1d784 11 ай бұрын
you created the Melody and i instantly thought about "Sideways" by illenium, looked it up and the entire video is basically creating this specific song. but i like it
@MMattes
@MMattes Ай бұрын
I commented this and thought I was the only one. It’s literally the same haha
@illiazo
@illiazo 4 ай бұрын
Bro I was so excited for the drop and then you finished the video 😭 but I thank you for sharing this and I love your passion!
@GAMBLE-fv4uw
@GAMBLE-fv4uw 9 ай бұрын
I just subscribed. You made that so easy to understand....im finding that with your other videos too. Im not even making music at the moment and you inspired me to load up everything and get back to doing what I love. Much appreciated sir!!
@iam_myster_e
@iam_myster_e 11 ай бұрын
Man as ridiculous as those headphones look, you still impressed the crap out of me with these concepts, great explaination and the theory of your music
@donnyforgione6724
@donnyforgione6724 10 ай бұрын
The chords remind me of "Sideways" by Illenium and Nurko! Great video as always!
@k03hl3r
@k03hl3r 9 ай бұрын
They don't remind you of them, they're identical. Same key, same chords, same melody.
@donnyforgione6724
@donnyforgione6724 9 ай бұрын
@@k03hl3r yep I know, nice to know the chords and stuff now too
@Chefhall23
@Chefhall23 3 ай бұрын
He basically remade the song, it's identical.😂
@descatterdeep
@descatterdeep 3 ай бұрын
That's impressive bro, i feel Illenium on those chords bro😌🐐
@ottokoivunen
@ottokoivunen 3 ай бұрын
Awesome video, loving your content and enthusiasm
@ValdeDarkorbit
@ValdeDarkorbit 11 ай бұрын
Good stuff man, could you do a video about counter melodies maybe in future? Keep up the good work!
@elixir931
@elixir931 11 ай бұрын
the song this video is based on is called sideways by Illenium, Nurko and Valerie Broussard, great song
@oystercatcher943
@oystercatcher943 11 ай бұрын
Really well explained. I’m learning a lot. I like the sound of high energy with the filter open, the filter closes, energy drops and you get beautiful delay and reverb tails
@hagen.360
@hagen.360 3 ай бұрын
The drop! I need the drop! Great work! Thank you!
@BrianSantero
@BrianSantero 10 ай бұрын
In Western Musical Theory, an 8 bar phrase is typically made of two 4-bar phrases, the antecedent and the consequent. This 2-loop rule follows this time tested concept. Anecdotally, a lot of romantic ballet music is repetitions of the 8 bars (creating 16 bar... choruses, to borrow a jazz term) see rondo, or tarantella. So doubling the 2-loop could work very well.
@lorenzodicapo6305
@lorenzodicapo6305 11 ай бұрын
There's nothing technically wrong, I just think this can be very restrictive. To say something like 'or ears naturally expect chords to change every two loops' is only applicable if you listen to an extremely narrow scope of music and you're working on a pretty focused genre: the four chord loop pop song. Also, we're talking strictly western theory here. Anywhere outside this small range, this rule doesn't hold. Also, why would you do what is 'expected'? Isn't that a recipe for 'unoriginal'? What about changing every three loops (hold the tension), one loop (create some confusion), never (trance)? Also, how far does it go? A lot of loops can add up in three or four minutes. Do we just keep changing up, with the acapella loop, the bebop loop, the djent loop, etc.? Anyways, there are some good suggestions, but hacks and shortcuts don't work well in music. Especially as a beginner, it is easy to end up learning the hack instead of the music. Spend the time, practice your instrument, learn the basics. Again, this is not bad. The texture change ideas and such are spot on. However, relying on cheats all the time can be very limiting and lead to bad habits.
@RetNemmoc555
@RetNemmoc555 10 ай бұрын
Yeah I get really bored hearing multiples of four in just about every new song. I find myself counting off measures on my fingers while shaking my head in frustration, and unless something exciting happens, I'm outta there.
@ArkhBaegor
@ArkhBaegor 4 ай бұрын
He created the most cookie cutter boring-ass song ever and was like "isn't it pretty?" lmao
@lizlangauraceneenvellum8716
@lizlangauraceneenvellum8716 11 ай бұрын
Fab, easy-to-grasp presentation, Alex - thank you! Love your vibe in these videos ~
@wizwolf5509
@wizwolf5509 4 ай бұрын
You gotta my ear, and I like it, keep working good musics 😍
@j3ss831
@j3ss831 11 ай бұрын
9:06 had me dead!
@ttsec3956
@ttsec3956 11 ай бұрын
Honestly man you make everything seem so simple when it’s not, your so good…
@ChronoMune
@ChronoMune 11 ай бұрын
Nothing worthwhile is immediate. Put in the work. You’ll get there if that’s what you want and commit to it
@3N1StaticGaming
@3N1StaticGaming 4 ай бұрын
I don't typically follow this rule. I use it sometimes, but not always. One say of music I once learned and has helped me was that when it comes to expression 'and music is an art' there are no rules. There can be no mistakes so long as it sounds good. What you really are looking for is what's weak vs what is strong. Depending on what your going for sometimes you need that weaker approach while in others you may want to have a stronger approach. Use your ears.
@Will-nt7ju
@Will-nt7ju 4 ай бұрын
I feel you. This is more of a video for beginners, it’s a nice base format for starting off with arrangement. Arrangement always stumped me in the beginning and this concept is a good starting point. I feel like most artists follow this rule to a certain extent. Not strictly 2 loops obviously
@masterjunko
@masterjunko 4 ай бұрын
I honestly kinda use a mixture of both. Sometimes I start off following the rule but then change things up a lot for an element of surprise, and my recent expansion into more music like breakcore/speedcore/dnb/neurofunk has got me interested in arrhythmic patterns and odd meters (and of course the classic drum breaks). I still think it's a very helpful guide, but I agree that's all it should ever be, a guide! Mess around and don't always stick to a 'rule' because all you really need to make music is heart, soul, and a catchy tune :)
@djscottyb_texas
@djscottyb_texas 10 ай бұрын
I really needed this!! Thank you. I am so excited to start my next arrangement
@eljosevillasenor
@eljosevillasenor 5 күн бұрын
the way you teach is superb! thank you!
@nowonmetube
@nowonmetube 4 ай бұрын
What I love about music production is, you learn one rule/skill/setting, and you can immediately build this into your next project and benefit from it.
@AbnerAgogo
@AbnerAgogo 4 ай бұрын
Sounds like an Ozempic commercial, I can hear all of the side effects being listed by the announcers voice..
@davefk
@davefk 12 күн бұрын
Your a song saver. Been stuck with one of my productions for ideas, and this rule just made all the difference. Subscribed.
@nexgen91
@nexgen91 7 ай бұрын
One of the best, and most helpful arrangement videos I've seen. Thank you!!
@MrGenedancingmachine
@MrGenedancingmachine 5 ай бұрын
Methods like this is why the LOFI hip-hop craze burned brightly but quickly faded into thousands upon thousands of songs starting to sound the same, rigid simple rules...that EVERYONE started to follow
@Mactakun
@Mactakun 3 ай бұрын
Agreed, I personally like songs that have something unique about them
@Merczid
@Merczid Ай бұрын
You have to start somewhere- learn the core concepts and "rules" before you consistently can experiment and introduce exotic unique elements
@GoingGhost_GG
@GoingGhost_GG 11 ай бұрын
hey alex i wanna get better at vocals
@blackfen1x
@blackfen1x 11 ай бұрын
np jus make aaaaaaaahhhhhhhh 👂🏻👁️👅👁️👂🏻
@uptownmediaproduction3526
@uptownmediaproduction3526 11 ай бұрын
Me too
@SauceMeGud
@SauceMeGud 3 ай бұрын
Cheers, man. Very useful baseline for arrangement.
@DjDeogan
@DjDeogan 19 күн бұрын
The best explaining with excellent humor and personality man on YT!! Thanks man! Keep it up!
@denisyolkin
@denisyolkin 3 ай бұрын
big ahh headphones
@flyingisland7583
@flyingisland7583 4 ай бұрын
How to make what everybody does
@alexandreabrantes3870
@alexandreabrantes3870 18 күн бұрын
Fr
@Grommie122
@Grommie122 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! I just wrote my first song that I started with programming a drum beat, liked it so much I decided to write over it. It definitely drags on with too many loops. I'm going to apply this to the song later!
@TimmyTheSnail
@TimmyTheSnail 4 ай бұрын
You are great. This video was great. The headphones are great. Thank you!
@haywoodjablowme699
@haywoodjablowme699 11 ай бұрын
How to make a boring song when your musical skills are non-existent
@Nemshek
@Nemshek 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, this video was so helpful. I've always kinda struggle with arrangement in my own stuff but just kinda made do with my current knowledge at the time. Thanks again! The music was beautiful btw.
@AnonAudioArtist
@AnonAudioArtist 11 ай бұрын
I randomly watch producing-tips to learn about different approaches and techniques from other people. Your tutorials seem to simplify basic aspects for every skill level through abstraction. Thank you.
@isabelall
@isabelall 4 ай бұрын
this is so helpful!! i’ve been needing this explanation forever
@yoyoiziah
@yoyoiziah 4 ай бұрын
Firre video! Soo helpful - I actually followed along with a loop i made earlier and actually got a decent song going now. You da best!
@DjDeja
@DjDeja 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip! I'm going to try this out
@paulwilson7562
@paulwilson7562 3 ай бұрын
Thanks man, this is great, this really helped me with the composing I am doing and some minor changes and effects have taken my music to the next level already. awesome!
@sinisterchin1592
@sinisterchin1592 3 ай бұрын
Bro you explained that so simply and clearly. Thank you
@ursalena
@ursalena 5 ай бұрын
Excellent, helpful video for those of us who attempt to make arrangements by just throwing darts and seeing what sounds good, this is tremendously insightful! I feel like this video highlighted to myself like 15 years of bad habits I have been repeating!
@samueltaschereau7882
@samueltaschereau7882 4 ай бұрын
I've done beats when I was way younger without any knowledge of music.I was still able to create something potent. After a long break of several years, I'm back at it again with a goal; learn the music theory for better efficiency. Got on youtube today to start my learning process on scales and basic piano, and before even start to tap on the search-bar, there's your video popping up on my KZbin Home Page. I clicked and I wasn't disapointed at all. Even tho this is not ''Basic music theory'' such as Chord progression etc. this is still a ''Must-have'' secret kept in my pocket. You just gained a new subscriber. Thank you! Keep up the good work!
@Lemonlime6000
@Lemonlime6000 4 ай бұрын
@@veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee tl;dr you're just a troll
@kaanozturk9922
@kaanozturk9922 4 ай бұрын
The very best and most helpful arrangement video for my level. Thank you soooo much
@slimeysosa1013
@slimeysosa1013 5 ай бұрын
God im so glad someone is taking the time to talk ab song arrangement because it really is one of the most important parts of making a song
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