A Classic HeroQuest Fan Unboxes Hasbro's Retail Edition of HeroQuest and Shares His Thoughts

[@Aenygma_]

As a kid I saw kids playing this game at school in '93 and was utterly amazed, unfortunately I never got to play it until 30 YEARS LATER. I was ecstatic when I heard the game was being reedited in 2021, I bought the base game and Mage of the Mirror in January of this year, and I just ordered 5 extra expansions. This game is freaking amazing to get people to play some kind of D&D without scaring them off with 17 rulebooks and a week to create a character hahaha.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

It's an excellent distillation of the dungeoncrawling concept - kick open the door, kill the monsters, take their stuff.

[@JeffWittyArt]

Even old fans, while respecting and loving the original - should always encourage a new generation of fans to get into this game we love. It only survives as long as it is profitable.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Absolutely. It’s great that the game is back and now much easier to get. I can see a lot of children discovering a love for dungeon crawling playing this.

[@s2korpionic]

I'd add to that, it only survives as long as it is profitable and the continue keeps it in their hearts. There is such a thing as too profitable.

[@paulqruel9290]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring have the 89 edition, cherry.

[@KentKaliber]

It's INCREDIBLE to see this game back and now I'm playing it with my 9 year old nephew! I LITERALLY buy every new item they release, as I want this to continue for years and years to come!

[@cjwestphal397]

Exactly. I still have an original copy + Kellar's Keep that I got in about 1992, that my Dad and I painted together. I will NEVER, NEVER part with it- Dad started me on what is currently a 30-year miniatures journey with it. But if my kids like a few demo adventures playing my old copy, I may just go ahead and rebuy the new version for as far into the expansions as they are willing to play it, even if buying the base set and Kellars Keep duplicates what I already have.

[@bkt41tx]

If I could I'd nominate you for the award for geekiest opening shot in an unboxing video. HeroQuest FTW!

[@carpetsnake83]

I think it’s good product for those who don’t have the original and did not want to get a game they’d have to restore I thought it’s big selling point wasn’t the base game but the expansion which where even harder to track down and more expensive Plus all the extra quest in haslab which I hope they put on the app so everyone has access to them

[@edhart8583]

I feel the same about the orcs. The new orcs are larger and deserve more than one health point for their size. The best thing about Heroquest is how easily you can modify it. I have already ordered a Red Sonja mini to play as my female barbarian.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Nice. I'm hopeful they will include the female barbarian in the Frozen Horror expansion they have teased.

[@darthkek1953]

No, the best thing about Heroquest is the furniture. I've replaced all my furniture with Heroquest furniture.

[@cjwestphal397]

@@darthkek1953 The new stuff being solid plastic makes it even more structural and sturdy around the home.

[@AceMathias]

Thanks for the hairdryer tip for removing the sticky tags. Normally i would just slit them with a knife and leave them attached to the box. However using the dryer managed to remove all with no damage and no residue. Even got an additional barcode sticker off too with no issues. Wonderful!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Glad it was useful for you. I buy a lot of Funko and Ravensburger games, and they are always taped, so the hairdryer always comes in handy.

[@Petrichoroma]

I just discovered I was not already subscribed to you, despite obsessively viewing your HeroQuest content for months. Subscribed now! Thank you for this unboxing. I hope Avalon Hill sends you the Mythic bonuses. Your content is so balanced, thorough, and positive. I’m sad for you to miss any content just because of your personal preference to avoid crowdfunding. Please keep covering HeroQuest. I love how practical your work is - how to care for games and packaging. That’s a bit unique to your channel and obviously valuable.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Thanks so much for subscribing. It is possible you subscribed before; I sometimes hear from people who say KZbin just unsubscribed them for no reason. I really appreciate the support and kind words. Honestly, I don't mind missing out on the crowdfunding exclusives. It was my choice, and I knew I wouldn't be able to get them later. I am committed to supporting any new HeroQuest products they put out at retail, so there will be plenty for me to enjoy and cover on the channel anyway. I'm still not convinced my preorder for the guardian knight will ever show up though. We will see!

[@matthewkirkhart2401]

I agree with you. I like the original game’s miniatures, but I do like the new furniture. Definitely an improvement.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

They did a great job on the furniture.

[@chadnine3432]

I never owned the original, and I'm so glad they didn't change the core aspects of the game. Super happy with the re-release.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I think it’s a great new edition. They did a good job on it.

[@KentKaliber]

The 2021 re-release was absolutely PERFECT! No radical changes to turn-off the veterans like me, it's a total RE-BOOT of the original keeping everything we loved intact! I even like the Abominations BETTER than the original Fimirs!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I think they did a great job, and were very thoughtful towards creating a homage to the original, and while I don't care for the abominations as much as the fimirs, I understand why they had to do that and don't blame them for it. I don't think it was perfect; not many things are. But overall, they are doing right by HeroQuest. It's good to see.

[@M-E_123]

One interesting point I saw someone make about the Abominations is that they look a lot like the beasts behind the bars in the Return of the Witch Lord Box Art (especially the Mythic exclusive with no weapons). Just a shame they don't make an appearance in the relevant quest that Artwork is based on as it would have been an acceptable update to the original if they'd made that change (I love that Artwork and was always disappointed those beasts never got explained or sppeared in game). Interestingly one of the Mythic only quest packs (The Prophecy of Telor) does also play into the idea of Abominations having a somewhat otherworldly nature (being summoned in what seems to be a ritual and being able to house a long dead spirit for a limited amount of time). Would be interesting if they leaned into this different background a little more in any other new quests they put out as I do feel it fits them better than how they appear in the original quests where they've been copied into the Fimir role of bossing Orcs & Goblins around. Certainly some story / quest potential there.

[@zombiedad]

Thanks ABNB. They nailed it really. I am impressed

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

They have done a good job.

[@HeroQuestFans]

the dwarf mini can't balance on top of the treasure chest mini in the new version like he could in the old... another reason to keep the classic edition around!

[@jameswhitehouse5706]

Really nice review. As a big fan of the original I couldn’t resist getting the new version. It’s the same but different and that’s how it should be. I play this new one with my daughter and she’s happy to see some female representation which has to be a good thing. Oh and a quick mention for the App which makes playing with 2 people so much more fun.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

It's a shame the retail edition didn't come with the other female character options, but I do think they will turn up in the expansions down the line. I think it's great that they created the app to allow for solo and pure co-op play, but I find it a pain to use. I will use it if I do any more solo runs on the channel, but I would always play with a Morcar player if I had the chance.

[@Teremei]

I appreciate these side by side plastic comparisons. It will really help picking out the colors when painting!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I'm glad it was helpful.

[@markstuart17]

love this review so much i decided to go and by my copy!! I love the game and had the original since it came out in the late 80s!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Thanks for watching. HeroQuest is great fun.

[@vo1non]

I laughed watching the delicate way you opened the box! I bought a beat up box off Amazon for cheap, and it was far from MINT, but all the game components were NEW and perfect. I saved money, and got what I wanted. A game to play.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

When HeroQuest came out, there were lots of complaints from frustated people who had torn the box as they removed the tape seals. As I do game restorations on the channel, I wanted to show an easy way to remove the seals on the box without causing any damage.

[@chrismcknight7164]

Wait, what?! They rereleased it! Whoah!! I still have my original edition from when I was a kid, not too beat up, complete with half painted miniatures :) My kids (6 and 3) are now really curious and want to play it, which has inspired me to get back into the hobby after nearly 30yrs :D I decided to start off by finishing painting the figures

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Ha. Yeah, it's been going strong for a couple of years now. All of the original US expansions are out, and they are working on the UK ones, plus a lot of brand new content. It's pretty great.

[@jesternario]

A thought. The abominations are obviously based off of the Deep Ones from Lovecraft. So when you get around to painting them, why not paint them in the style of one?

[@hanng1242]

Or they could be based upon D&D Kuo-Toa. Hasbro does own WotC, after all.

[@Delabane]

I was saying even 15-20 years back they should bring Heroquest back! I had this and most of the expansions as a kid. Even got Advanced Heroquest andvwas starting to get into Warhammer Fantasy but then I got a Sega Megadrive and left the hobby. I was initially reluctant to get this as I already have too many hobbies but I finally have in and got it a few weeks ago and have 3 expansions, the 3 I originally had all those years ago.

[@carlosbarreto4695]

Also used the hairdryer trick to remove the adhesive from the box. And I did it with 3 boxes (the main game, Kellar's Keep and Return of the Witch Lord expansions). So I had to remove 12 adhesives in total. I did similarly as you demonstrate in the video, but I realised that the box was getting hot. So while opening the third box, I changed the strategy: I cut the adhesives carefully with a small knife, removed everything from the box and then proceeded to use the hairdryer to remove the adhesives. I'm not sure if the hairdryer's hot air was hot enough to mess with the plastic material inside the box... But it's better to be safe than be sorry. Fortunately it didn't damage anything in the first 2 boxes, as far as I can see.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

It doesn't hurt to be cautious, especially when handling valuable games, but you'll find the adhesive melts well before anything got hot enough to hurt material on the inside of the box. I've been using the hairdryer trick for an incredibly long time, not just on modern games but on charity shop finds that the tape monkeys have got at, and I've never once had anything harmed by it.

[@latsblaster]

The shock of seeing this game was I was Young Stays in me. I had never Imagen such a cool thing. The gargoyle was almost too much, but the cover of return of the witch lord was a picture that was so cool it was impossible to handle emotionally.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

It's a very vivid memory. HeroQuest was just the coolest thing I'd ever seen. The TV advert only reinforced that.

[@borisgulliver4970]

I have just bought Heroquest, on sale cost me £68, thanks for your expansion videos, I have never played anything such as this before 😮

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

That's a great price for the game. I hope you have a lot of fun with it.

[@knghtbrd]

[MB office, 1989] Exec: Is that the new Quest Hero project you've got there? Dev: HeroQuest, sir. And yes, we just got back the final prototypes for the miniature monsters. Goblins, orcs, fimirs, skel-… Exec: Good, good… Say, everybody knows what orcs are from Tolkien, but … what's a femur? How are we going to explain them to the kids? What's their deal? What do they do? Dev: Uhhhhhhm…

[@Trencher1375]

Very cool review. Off course our classics will always be classics. Hopefully the new generation will enjoy the new one. I think one of the things that made heroquest a classic was the easy rules system and the very limited numbers of tokens compared to other games. Glad they kept that.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Absolutely. HeroQuest was the ultimate sandbox for a generation. The new edition has that same accessibility and expandability, which can only be a good thing.

[@HeroQuestFans]

this video blows.. just kidding, that's a dryer. thanks for sharing your thoughts! gave you a shoutout on our latest HeroQuestFans twitch stream.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Thanks for watching, and for the shout out. I appreciate it.

[@raffaellaV]

I just hope that this new edition continues to be supported, I understand that old fans of the old edition do not like this new style, as it should be everyone has their own personal tastes and also affection and memories in the old version 😊, for example for me I personally love both styles 😋, I just wish that it wasn't rejected completely but that it was taken as a new way to bring a beautiful brand back to the present day, which can today bring together those who have never played in the past or even those who have he has already played but unfortunately he no longer has his old copy with him 😊. Unfortunately I am one of those people who has not played it and this new version for me together with all the beautiful extras now added, it is a really nice journey that I am happy to take ☺️👍

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I think this new edition has done really well (and it deserves to). Hasbro have said they have lots of expansions planned, and so far they have already released Kellar's Keep, Return of the Witch Lord and the Guardian Knight hero. Furthermore, we have seen the box cover for a new edition of the Frozen Horror expansion, and some of the images in one of their videos hinted they might be remaking the Elf Quest pack as well. I think we can all look forward to quite a lot of new HeroQuest stuff coming out.

[@raffaellaV]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring I'm happy about it 😊 and it seems like they are giving him a lot of space and support for the future too, and this is really good news, more missions and adventures to face and that's enough for me 😋👍

[@HeroQuestFans]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring yeah, keep it in retail! thats' the way to please fans. the Knight release was kind of botched, which can be blamed on poor planning (they knew the supply chain issues would still be around this year right?). Avalon Hill/Hasbro needs to produce its miniatures domestically from here on

[@raffaellaV]

@@HeroQuestFans I hope that all these problems and not only for them will be solved soon 🙏

[@HeroQuestFans]

a recent experience has turned me away from crowd funding and pre-orders of limited time exclusives for the gaming world... great channel, keep up the good work!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I hope your Kickstarter experience wasn't too rough. Thanks for watching.

[@haxan6663]

Heroquest was the game that got me back into gaming about 14 years ago. I was given an original copy and it was the inspiration to start painting minis. Just before Hasbro announced the relaunch, I sold my painted copy with four expansions. Because I had just sold it, I wasn't interested in the new version. 12 months or so on and I have just bought myself a retail copy. The continued support of the game, with new expansions coming out has got me interested. As a big dungeon crawler fan I just needed to have it in my collection? Still prefer the old zombies, skeletons and mummies though!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

It's great to have an old classic back and getting great support. I do prefer the original aesthetic though.

[@dylanspencer759]

Great video. You should do a series playing through the game. 10/10 and more space crusade also the best videos.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Thanks. People always want more playthroughs, and I would like to do more, but running this channel isn't my job and I rarely have the opportunity to put in the two days a playthrough takes to set up, run, and edit. You will be seeing more of all this stuff eventually, though.

[@danroberts007]

Great comparison. There was only one thing I disagreed with you on in the entire video: that new Gargoyle is a big thumbs down for me. I don’t think I’d use it outside of HQ at all and certainly not for HQ itself when I’ve got the classic version ready to go. Other than that, you and I are completely on the same page about how to use this new edition. I got my copy a few weeks ago, took a quick look through the contents and it’s set aside for now, waiting for Omicron to fade into memory (hopefully). Thank you for this and for the playthrough video as well. LOVE IT!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I don't know why they didn't make the gargoyle more imposing. Feels like a missed opportunity. Thanks for watching.

[@danroberts007]

Always Board Never Boring I was thinking they were probably limited by space in the tray. He seems very squashed to me and that may be why.

[@eetfuk1776]

I will always prefer the original round corner wooden dice. Kinda unique in comparison to the new generic plastic ones.

[@blackraptor311]

The furniture and the card art, I agree, are top notch. I would not be so sure about GW not putting Fimirs on a possible remake. If they could put beastmen in Blackstone Fortress, they could put Fimirs back in Heroquest if they were the ones who re-made it.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

It's a different situation. I don't think they would want to deal with the conversations around fimir. They would have to completely reinvent them, and even then people would say, "Hey, that's the race of creatures that..." I think it's just safer for them not to use them anymore.

[@george_a79]

Thanks for the unboxing, even though there were some people who had already done that, I still preferred your way, way more relaxing. So, since Im an old fan and also player of A&D 2nd Ed of course, when it comes to talking about artwork, I can say that the old one is something I used to see in every book that had such content, meaning epic fantasy content. I remember it in many rulebooks of wizards of the coast as well as in early MTG cards, which I think was the style of the era, 80s style. Miniatures are definitely GW style, I had a copy of Warhammer and 2 army packs, elves and empire, plus a few scattered army pieces here and there, way expensive back in the early 90s. Though I can say that the new ones are good and they reflect the new "style", this cartoonish one. To sum it up, i also still prefer the old game compared to the new, even though I never owned it, but still played it a lot with a friend who did, so the new one is gonna fill some of the space that old the one didn't. Anyway keep it up, and thanks once more.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

HeroQuest really is a perfect time capsule. The artwork and miniatures are so "of that time." This new version has clearly moved more towards that Warcraft / videogame aesthetic, which is absolutely the right move, and is really well done for what it is. Thanks for watching.

[@Petrichoroma]

I agree. I love the relaxing approach of ABNB and AmalgamAsh. Both are thorough and analytical, but present in a casual, balanced way that leans into kind positivity. I listen to both of them on repeat.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

@@Petrichoroma Thanks so much for the kind words and support. I really appreciate it.

[@scopeh2006]

I've literally just finished putting taking the miniatures out of the plastic trays, and putting them into my battlefoam trays designed for the new box just 20 mins ago👍👍 taking the minis out of the plastic tray was anxiety inducing, I felt as though something was going to break 😬😬😬

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I thought the weapon rack was a particularly tense moment! They definitely aren't plastic inserts designed for repeat use.

[@gothamgoon4237]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Same. That weapons rack had me real nervous. I've used the hot water method and fixed all my bent minis. I just need to paint everything and fix some box damage.

[@TheFatalT]

The rats were the worst for me. The first one shot out of the tray like a bullet, hit me in the lip then nearly disappeared on the dark carpet. Learned my lesson for sure lol. Just got the battle foam inserts the other day and I love them.

[@asowle]

It was a nightmare..solid in the trays, all out now but never going to use those "deadly" trays again...no broke figures, but scary with the dread knights....

[@nickvandam1214]

What size sleeves did you use for original Heroquest? I just found a copy in the wild! Thanks for the video.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

They are Yucatan card sleeves from Sleeve Kings, 54 x 80mm.

[@1000jjwalker]

It's not perfect. But it's pretty damn close and with the right group it's really really great.

[@crystalfmaibach8582]

Great review! As a Classic fan I totally feel with you… as soon as the German Edition comes out, I‘ll buy it, too

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Thanks for watching. Hopefully you will be able to get it soon.

[@crystalfmaibach8582]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Thanks for making those videos! Your fantastic Wizard-Video brought me back to painting since a decade!!! I am really thankful for that 👍🏻

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

That's great. Thank you so much for the kind words, and I'm really pleased the video played a part in you getting the brushes back out.

[@stuffandnonsense8528]

I waited for your video on this. There are two Heroquest you tubers for me, you and The Bard. He hasn't done his yet. I'd love to learn more about how you play D&D.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

There is a playlist for my D&D stuff here on the channel. Lockdown hit D&D hard, but I did recently manage to get the gang together to finish our current campaign.

[@Waaagghhh]

Dang... I still have my UK copy with Kellers Keep, Escape from the Ogre Hordes, and Escape from the Witch King.... BUT now I kind of want THIS ONE!! Mentor FORVER!!!!!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Avalon Hill have done a great job with the new edition.

[@walkingriver6104]

I actually think the fish men are my favourite 😅 I like the love craft vibe

[@mikolajwitkowski8093]

After watching the whole video, it seems that unless you have strong nostalgia the new version is better in every way, maybe not the dice, rounded corners roll so much better.

[@kascally]

Absolutely. Given that the component comparisons were also between painted and unpainted I thought the new sculpts won hands down. Couldn’t see anything in the old version that was preferable. Yes, round cornered dice roll a little better, but the new heavier dice with debossed icons are nicer. I find the fixed HQ board a major constraint. The D&D Fantasy Adventure game has large square tiles that allow more variable layouts, and also some of the best dice and combat mechanics you’ll find in any dungeon crawl. The tiles used in the D&DACG series are even more varied and really appeal to kids.

[@noprobllama9747]

Nice comparison, no nostalgia to compare with for me bit it's nice to see how the older miniatures have a more aesthetically pleasing charm than the newer ones. More detail does not mean more evocative it seems.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I'm a big fan of the Oldhammer style of miniatures. Lots of character without lots of fiddly details.

[@b.lloydreese2030]

It's at least as good as the original. Plus the fact it's getting new life now. The terrain is superior too. Heroquest is also something i find myself returning to because the past few years i have been trying to figure out d and d to either run a game or play solo but the rules are just too confusing and no one wants to play. Well, thanks to the hasbro app, i can just throw my characters into heroquest, have the app run the game for the most part and modify/homebrew where i like. Heroquest is so simple to learn and play, i still remember how to play it but even so the rules are clear which is a must.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I will always prefer the aesthetic of the original, but Avalon Hill are doing a great job with the new edition.

[@HeroQuestFans]

I don't think there are any differences from the Pledge version to the Retail version (other than UPC codes on the outer boxes, the black backing of the KK/ROTWL tile sheets and language translations in the international releases), but I am curious if they tweaked any text on the cards. Can you show us the Crossbow, Borin's Armor, Hand Axe and Bracers cards?

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Borin's Armour: Armor - This magical suit of plate mail gives you 2 extra Defend dice. Unlike normal plate mail, this mysterious ultralight metal armor does not slow down its wearer. May be combined with the helmet and/or shield. May not be used by the Wizard. (In the original US and European editions it gave you a flat defence of four dice instead.) Bracers: Armor - These hardened leather bracers give you 1 extra Defend die. May be combined with the helmet and/or shield. 550 gold coins. (In the European edition these could only be used by the wizard.) Hand axe: Weapon - This handaxe allows you to roll 2 Attack dice. It can also be thrown at any monster in your line of sight but is lost once it is thrown. 200 gold coins. (This is the same as the European edition, except for the price.) Crossbow: Weapon - This long-range weapon gives you the attack strength of 3 combat dice. You may fire at any monster that you can see. However, you cannot fire at a monster that is adjacent to you. You have an unlimited supply of arrows. May not be used by the Wizard. 350 gold coins. (This is the same as the original US version.)

[@TheTrickMethod]

Great video. I've been enjoying all your HeroQuest content as I've recently been putting together an old set myself. Interesting to hear this cost you 85 pounds, here in New Zealand it's $280NZD (137 pounds) - Not really a price that's going to get many kids fighting goblins.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Yikes, that's a steep price. Here in the UK it's now £100, because Asmodee have squeezed the price point for retailers, but £137 is excessive and - yes - a bit exclusive. Back in 1989 the game was around £22, which is around £59 in today's money.

[@superspecky4eyes]

Not a massive fan of the new designs but the Goblin with the hatchet is probably my favourite. They have a lot of character.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I think the new goblins are possibly nudging closest to being as good as, or better, than the originals. Probably because if I had to pick a "weak" sculpt from the original I would have to pick the goblins.

[@AlienGenotype]

I ordered it, never had it before. Is it recommended to blow off the sticker seal with a hairdryer like that?

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

You may not get stickers on newer prints but if you do, yes, the hairdryer trick is advisable to prevent ripping the surface of the box when you pull the stickers off.

[@AlienGenotype]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring It seems like i have the 2022(?) update, not the one from 2021. The stickers are still on it. I just read on reddit that the figures have a slight better quality to them also compared to the 2021 release? Pasted from reddit: "The build quality appears to have improved considerbly with everything fitting together as it should no massive gaps in furniture or glue marks running down the back. The figures do seem to have slighty more detail this could be down to more care coming off the press though My guess would be they changed packing company or gave a good ass kicking to the original one due to the amount of defects that must be out there."

[@jas25ace]

What’s a good size for card protectors or slick as we used to call them.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

The cards are approximately 64mm x 88mm

[@rocknrowles9236]

So excited to get Froze Horror when it is released - I've never seen expansions other than KK & ROTWL. Really hope we get Ogre Horde & Wizards Of Morcar / Zargon too

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I'm really looking forward to Frozen Horror too.

[@daviddupont517]

Original can t be beaten. But happy to see it with a new version

[@dylanspencer759]

Play some more games of this use original version though and zoom in slightly on the characters when you play. 10/10 videos

[@GuruChaz]

Is there a specific set of house rules being used to tweak the original game rules? I heard someone say that rolling 2s is an outdated mechanic. Has that been fixed yet?

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Nobody uses a specific set of house rules with HeroQuest. I've said in other videos, that I doubt any two people use exactly the same rules, as they customise the experience to their tastes. However, Avalon Hill have published some "official variant" rules, some of which are quite nice. The best one is "unthreatened movement" which states that when there are no monsters on the board you do not roll for movement. Instead you can move four spaces for each dice you would normally roll (eight spaces, for most people). Once monsters turn up, you go back to roll-and-move to simulate the chaos and uncertainty of fighting in dark, cramped conditions. I use this rule in all my online playthroughs. They also published some "playtest" rules for animal companions, and there is an online adventure where you travel with a helpful wolf. The HeroQuest companion app recently added a number of options, like allowing goblins to break up their movement with an attack (rather than attacking before or after moving) and allowing skeletons to attack diagonally with their scythes. There are also options to give monsters more defence, more body points, and things like that. In short - everybody tinkers with HeroQuest, and even Avalon Hill are playing around with new variant rules.

[@AceMathias]

Think I'm going to reuse my original 1990's copy which I've got in the attic and buy all the new add-ons for it. I'm therefore looking to buy/make a new edition of the board given the change in scale of the new components, so the new content fits on it better. Any tips for acquiring just the board at a reasonable price? Cheers

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

At the moment there is no official way to get just the board. You may be able to find a third-party seller on somewhere like Etsy offering neoprene mats in the correct scale. For example, Ian Schofield on Drivethrurpg offers artwork for a variety of different unofficial board layouts. You pay for the art and then send it to a printer of your choice to get produced.

[@stevesx10]

I'm putting some thoughts into getting a 3rd party mini tray that fits into the original box but not sure what to choose. I have the mythic tier and the Knights set plus il be getting the frozen when it's out plus what ever is released after. What would be the best move here? I know it won't all fit into one box. Mostly not sure how the Knights set would come into it as I haven't seen a tray for those and how it would all store together. Some thoughts would be great

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

There are basically two main choices - Battlefoam and Feldherr. I've never bought any Battlefoam, but have several Feldherr sets that I really like. I did a video on the Feldherr stuff for the new edition of HeroQuest, which does allow for the whole Mythic pledge to fit in one box. You can find the video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3yni4SYes9mfsk I believe the Feldherr set has a few spare slots so you could slip in a few extra miniatures like the guardian knight. Once Hasbro starts to release things like the Frozen Horror you will have to buy extra sets (Feldherr will almost certainly make a new insert for each new expansion that comes out).

[@stevesx10]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring excellent reply thank you. Il check out that video now

[@stevesx10]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring both the Battle Foam and Feldherr options look good. What I would quite like is to keep stuff in its original boxes as we already have them, the Knights could be added somewhere else I guess. But I will say these are both quite expensive for what they are, especially being a Mythic tier backer it costs almost as much as I paid for the game in the case of BF and that will be a hard one to get approval of the Wife lol But I do want to protect my minis for the long term and certainly play with my kids once they are old enough. What about card sleeves? Is there a particular one which you think is best? I preferably would like something transparent both sides to show how the cards are originally intended to be, just to add some basic protection each side from sticky fingers, spills, tearing, that kind of thing. And all those before I even get to the painting....

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

All custom foam options are expensive. I don't consider them for most games, but I wanted them for my original HeroQuest and Space Crusade. I doubt I will buy one for the new edition, but if I do I will go with Feldherr, which works out cheaper than Battlefoam (Battlefoam's Mythic set is about $112 while Feldherr's is 50 Euros, so less than $60). Both the Battlefoam and Feldherr sets fit inside the original box too, although Battlefoam has separate trays for Kellar's Keep and Witch Lord, while Feldherr only have options for putting it all in the core box. I don't tend to sleeve my cards, so I don't have any recommendations. I would suggest just measuring up the cards and doing a search for sleeves that size, then getting a brand with a high micron count (look for something at least 60 microns, put preferably higher).

[@chrisedwards6226]

Sharper corners make for nicer rolling? 🤔

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Casinos use sharp-cornered dice. They should be fairer, more random, with less chance of anomalies. They won't travel as far, which reduces the risk of them constantly rolling to any bias. There is reduced risk of cocked dice, too. The new ones are also larger and weightier than the old wooden dice, so they just "feel" better when you roll them.

[@1000jjwalker]

Mini by mini. The furniture in the new Heroquest in my opinion is better than the older model. But the heros and monsters in the original are better designed than the new. The art is better on the old as well. That's my breakdown.

[@JamesMartin-bc8xq]

I probably won’t get this version, for one can’t justify it in this money tight time.But also I still play my ye old hero quest, It’s not in a cabinet bubble wrapped it still gets played😀.Our old one had a more old 80s fantasy feel, the new one feels like world of Warcraft which I’m not too keen about, but is that me with my nostalgia glasses on, no I don’t think it is, I’m good with not getting this one and still have plenty of quest to complete from my old one😁 love what you’ve done with yours and the painting brilliant. Cheers for the vid

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Thanks for watching. I really just wanted it because of what it is, and because it's an excuse to play the US rules for a change. Plus, considering my coverage on the channel I felt I should get one in the end!

[@philltaylor5629]

That's the unboxing I've been waiting for. I seen others but I like your biased opinion towards the original (just like mine) but I do prefer the new goblins over the old. Cant wait to receive my copy (just got an email yesterday from magic madhouse updating me about delivery). I'm waiting in anticipation on how you paint this set, but i think i'll be waiting a while due to your backlog of other projects.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

My current painting project is Space Crusade, but I'm thinking of interchanging with this set as this is the hot topic right now so the videos might be more useful for people. Still not sure on timescales. I think the goblins are the miniatures in this set that come closest to being as good as miniatures from the original, so I'm not surprised you picked them out as something that you consider to be better in this version.

[@HapaxLegomenon12]

The reason I'm not keen on the design of the Abomination, is that it's clearly a water-based creature, in a dungeon with no bodies of water, it just looks so out of place. Aside from that, I think it's a great sculpt with lovely detail. It's just that it's incongruent with the setting it's in.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

They do feel a bit out of place, and I'm really not keen on the posing or weird spears. I like how big and imposing they are, though - they do look threatening.

[@deepspacehunter]

Hello, there! 😊 I was wondering if you do commision work on painting minis! I have some original HeroQuest miniatures that i would love to see painted by you! I love how you painted your HeroQuest game components! Cheers! ❤

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I'm afraid I don't do commission work. I simply don't have the time. I do have videos on my channel showing how I painted all of my classic HeroQuest miniatures if that's any help to you.

[@stuartoleary7358]

Has the packaging changed? I got my copy today and there was no sticky tape, the minis were not tight and nothing was warped.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Yes, they listened to the complaints about packaging and rectified them for the later printings. They have also changed their production methods for the miniatures so later printings and expansions are generally higher quality.

[@stuartoleary7358]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring oh interesting. Thanks for the response

[@snapshot79]

I also miss the Fimirs. Who wants fishmacs on land? 🤣

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Yeah, they don't feel like a good fit to me.

[@RequiemWraith]

I backed the crowdfunder through zavvi. One of the choices I've made is to dump all the plastic trays in favour of foam trays, I know collectors will currently be furious at me 😅 but once I get everything painted I didn't to risk damaging the paint jobs with the plastic trays. Mine is the opposite opinion of yours, I much prefer the updates models, they're much more in line with my aesthetic preferences. But these are of course personal choices.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Yeah, I don't recommend people keep the models in the original trays. I have a box in the attic that has all my original game inserts that I don't use. Then if I ever decide to get rid of a game, I can restore it to its original condition. I am sure lots of people prefer the newer models, and I do think that in the most part they are very good, but I absolutely love the Oldhammer look, so that's where my own preferences lie.

[@RequiemWraith]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring life would be boring if we all had the exact same tastes

[@andsch0172]

I’ll miss the coat of arms 😢 My friends and I always had their own coat of arms with each hero when we played. Possibly I’ll create my own sheets

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Creating a coat of arms was a fun way to feel more connected with your hero.

[@HeroQuestFans]

wow you went nuts on your custom candlesticks... they are cool though. compensating for the broken past? I guess need to view your restoration videos (those remind me of reaper bones candlesticks).

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

The copy of HeroQuest I restored only had broken candlesticks. I like to keep everything original as much as possible, but my workaround for the candlesticks was to raid the GW bits box and use some nighthaunt elements along with as much of the original sticks as I could salvage. There's a video about it on the channel.

[@bullseyecooper1739]

The Rose coloured glasses have to come off at some point, great video though 👍👍

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

@@bullseyecooper1739 I am a fan of the new edition. As I said in the video I prefer the original aesthetics, but this is the version I play now. If you’re new to the channel you might like to check out my HeroQuest playlist. I cover all the new stuff in depth. Thanks for watching.

[@bullseyecooper1739]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring I’ve been watching all your videos on hero quest mate and really enjoyed them, it was your unboxing video that made me go out and get it😉👍 I’ve had the core set for a while but I’m only a couple of missions in unfortunately as time to play and space are an issue at the moment, I use the app to play as there are only me and my Mrs playing it, I have the barbarian and wizard and she has the elf and dwarf. We do enjoy it though. I’m currently getting the expansions too for later on. I have the frozen horror and rise of the dread moon so far. I’m a collector too so I’ll end up getting them all soon anyway 👍are the delthrak dice still available for pre order? Also, do all the artefacts, body points etc and stuff you buy and pick up all carry over to the expansions?

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Thanks so much for supporting the channel. I'm really pleased the videos helped you make the purchasing decision. Unfortunately, the Jungles of Delthrak dice are showing as sold out on the Hasbro UK and Europe sites, but can still be preordered from the US site. With HeroQuest, the expansions do tend to up the difficulty slightly, and the intention is your heroes persist with their current equipment.

[@tonywalder5081]

I loved playing this game with family when i was younger. Glad they re-released it, as we have been enjoying playing through our new copy. Where did you preorder the guardian's knight expansion?

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I ordered it from a company called Total Cards that I've never dealt with before. The knights were selling out within minutes of turning up in various online stores, and I know several retailers were holding them back to sell as part of bundles with the core game. Hopefully Hasbro are going to do another run, because there was huge demand for them.

[@tonywalder5081]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Thank you, just looked and they have stopped taking pre-orders. So hopefully Hasbro do another run as would love to keep collecting new content. I have printed a 3D board for Heroquest and slowly painting the wall section and have been watching you HQ restoration play list.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Sorry, I should have been clearer. I had to preorder the knight last year, and it sold out everywhere for preorder within minutes. It would be very hard to find one right now, but hopefully that situation will change. Hasbro are leaving money on the table if they don't make more.

[@michaelhill6453]

A lot of the new miniatures are quite nice but too big to fit comfortably on the board spaces, even though the new board spaces are larger. I don't like that. Additionally, I'm one of the idiots that prefer the old wooden dice, those rounded corners actually allow the die to roll whereas hard edges impede the throw, they kind of just land. Fantastic video.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Rounded corners do increase the bias on dice (which is why casinos don't use them), and if you aren't using a dice tray the extra travel means you can fire them right off the table, so I do see the benefits of sharper corners. But in practice it doesn't really affect my opinion of dice one way or the other too much.

[@chrismcknight7164]

Now we just need a re-release of Space Hulk ;p

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

The most recent edition was published 2014, so I feel like they might do a new edition in 2024 as a 10 year thing.

[@dartanionbrallk9805]

Great video.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Thank you.

[@bellzno1520]

Would you rather use the new scenery in the old set ? I’m thinking of buying the new game just for the furniture and doors to use in my original set

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Swapping to the new bigger board will help significantly with the overcrowding that tends to happen with the original. I don't really see myself mixing furniture and miniatures between sets though. I will probably use my classic HeroQuest stuff when playing the UK rules, and the Hasbro stuff when playing the US rules. I do see them all getting used together in D&D and Rangers of Shadow Deep, though, along with my Mantic furniture.

[@TheFatalT]

I really like the new edition myself, but I’ll agree the original is always going to be the best of them. Have you ever considered one of the neoprene mat boards? They’re a bit bigger than the new board but I’ve got one that is quite nice - no more minis crowding into each other!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I think the new edition is lovely. When it isn't being compared against a mythical, unobtainable ideal there really isn't much to complain about. I've seen the neoprene mats, and I do think they're a cool idea. I love rolling dice on neoprene. It's not on my list of things to pick up right now, though.

[@mikolajwitkowski8093]

I can also recommend a hair drier and not hot water for bent minis, same effect, less messy.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I find water lets you get more done quickly, and as a lot of people like to wash their miniatures before painting them you're killing two birds.

[@mikolajwitkowski8093]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring The wash point is excellent, other than that I found the drier faster, of course assuming one or two minis need correcting and not 50.

[@HeroQuestFans]

great to hear the perspective of an EU classic player.... ah and you were one of the "lucky few" who got the pre-painted dwarf package thing (with the resin rounded dice and the larger tomb dice box)

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

After the big announcement that Hasbro was launching HeroQuest, a lot of channels and news sources stopped reporting on the campaign. I made a habit of posting every bit of news I could find on the channel, and I was fortunate to find an audience and rack up considerable views. It was enough to bring me to the attention of Hasbro's promotional agent, who sent me the promotional items. It was a very cool thing to receive (but the dice were nothing more than proof of concept - they didn't even roll properly).

[@socat9311]

Here in UK some retailers apparently got less orders coming in and although I pre-ordered I got email that i need to wait more :( maybe will make the arrival sweeter

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Sorry to hear your order was delayed. I’m in the UK and was lucky to get an order in with Magic Madhouse who delivered without issue and are showing 10 plus copies in stock right now. Hasbro do seem to be moving quickly on supply issues from what I have seen and heard so hopefully you won’t have to wait too long.

[@socat9311]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring good stuff mate, I was not very experienced with retailers, ordered from Dice and Decks. They were diligent enough to send a long email and explain the situation. Let's see, until then, I will enjoy your video on repeat!

[@carlosbarreto4695]

Nice quick review! Do you think there is any salvation for the plastic tray, considering that the owner _might_ want to paint the miniatures? I didn't own the original back in time and I've been wondering for weeks if I should purchase it or just buy the first 3 Dungeons & Dragons board games instead. This game is so expensive and the fact that they made a shitty plastic tray and didn't even bother to put a plastic wrap on the box are some of the reasons that's holding me back.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

It's not that they didn't bother with shrink wrap. They made a choice to use zero shrink wrap. The cards and tokens are wrapped in paper, and the box is sealed with stickers. They aren't the only company doing this - Ravensburger springs to mind - and I think we will see more companies doing this in the future as a small step towards reducing plastic waste in the industry. You definitely wouldn't want to use the insert as-is; even if you aren't painting the miniatures they will eventually get damaged by the inserts. I have done numerous videos on my channel about reshaping the insert, replacing the insert with a purchasable option from a company such as Feldherr, and making a custom insert. I chose the custom insert option, using rubber steel and magnets to store the miniatures upright. I love the D&D adventure game system and own Castle Ravenloft, Wrath of Ashardalon and Legend of Drizzt. They are really good fun but a completely different experience to HeroQuest.

[@carlosbarreto4695]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I support the idea of reducing the plastic waste. But I think that the shrink wrap helps to protect the box from scratches and some damage. I've seen a LOT of people complaining about their boxes being damage. And considering this game costs about 120€, this is really disappointing in my opinion. And the fact that we are forced to replace the plastic tray is yet another reason to be disappointed. Not only we have to pay 120€ for the game that might have a damaged box, but now we need to spend extra money (or time) to replace the plastic tray. I _really_ want to support this game, as I always wanted to own it (I just played it _once_ some years ago, in 2015, when I was 31 years old) due to it's popularity and my interest in RPGs and Fantasy settings. Just out of curiosity: do you remember how much did you pay for your D&D board games? And would you mind to elaborate how they feel different than HeroQuest, as both are Hack'n Slash board games? Thank you.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

The D&D games used to be around £40 on Amazon in the UK, but I've had them for years so I would expect to pay more these days. The D&D games are pure co-op (no dungeon master), you explore randomly generated dungeons and they feel more like race against time puzzles where your hit points are the timer. You are constantly forced to keep moving or the dungeon punishes you. HeroQuest is more casual, you can explore at leisure, and dungeons aren't random. I have some Castle Ravenloft and HeroQuest playthroughs on the channel which should make it clear how very different the games are. By the way, the D&D games don't have a storage solution for the miniatures either - they are all just bagged up floating around in a single large compartment. Mine are magnetised in separate crates with my other miniatures now. In fact, very few of my miniatures games had an insert that I would use, and some didn't even come with inserts at all. Even the original HeroQuest didn't have storage for the miniatures, so my original set is housed in Feldherr foam now.

[@GabrielSchlaefer]

I also do not back crowdfunding campaigns, and cannot imagine why anyone would 🙌

[@danderson5084]

Very nice vid. Wish it was a solo-able game!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

@@danderson5084 Avalon Hill do offer a free companion app that runs the dungeon for you so you can play solo or fully cooperatively.

[@danderson5084]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Thanks for the reply! I'm not keen on screens with board games. Dungeon Saga is similar and also has an app but also cards to run the DM - although I find one vs many "solo modes" are never very good. That said, I'm taking a closer look at both as I'm running out of game ideas!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I'm not a fan of using apps for board games, and I tend to avoid any where an app is an essential component like Journeys in Middle-earth. But the HeroQuest ones isn't too obtrusive. You have to track your hero's movement on the app, but it's mainly to reveal what is behind doors and to let you know when you step on a trap. Unfortunately, there really isn't an easy way to do solo without an app for HeroQuest - so much of it relies on hidden information. I actually used the Dungeon Saga website when I played as the overlord. I found it a bit easier than referring to the small maps in the book.

[@danderson5084]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring It's currently between these or Ravenloft. That looks a bit drab in comparison but your playthrough made it look interesting enough. I have tried it briefly before, also DSO. Also to consider is Heroquest is twice the price of Ravenloft, and that is twice the price of DSO, the base game anyway which would be enough. Alternatively, I could man up and take the shrink off Doria! Your review was a bit off-putting though - invincible monsters indeed.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Castle Ravenloft and HeroQuest are both superb. Dungeon Saga and Doria are decent, but they weren't for me. Another thing to keep in mind is HeroQuest First light comes out in a few months. That's a new starter set with cardboard standees instead of miniatures for the enemies, offering a cheaper way to get into the system.

[@danielwilliamson6180]

HeroQuest is great.

[@Ben_Mdws]

Looks lovely - can imagine kids getting this being delighted with it. Sorry, I should look back and check - but have you done a video on the UK/USA rule comparison?

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I've never dedicated a video specifically to it, but have spoken a lot about the differences in my recent playthrough, and in my video on buying a copy of HeroQuest on eBay. And you're right, I can see kids getting so excited by this game.

[@Ben_Mdws]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring cool - thank you. Have got your recent play through cued up to watch 👍🏼

[@superspecky4eyes]

What are the card skull tokens for?

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Tracking monster hit points. Not something that had to be worried about in the European edition.

[@superspecky4eyes]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Ah of course. Why do you think they ended up giving the monsters more hit points in NA?

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I'm actually working on a video at the moment talking about the differences, and this obviously features in it. I think it really comes down to how the game was designed to be played. The European version is a lighthearted, competitive romp, with everyone out for themselves. Rewards aren't shared, monsters are weak enough that a lone hero can tackle several at once, and you are supposed to block the other heroes and even cast spells on them. The NA rules encourage a more cooperative style of play which I believe is how Baker really wanted it to play, and most of the competitive stuff is taken out. I think they may also have been aiming the NA version at a slightly older market.

[@superspecky4eyes]

​@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring That's an interesting perspective. I suppose it doesn't help that the some of the rules are somewhat "loosely" written. Most of the time when it says "player" you don't know if it means specifically an "opposing player" or literally any player on the board.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Yeah, the NA rules set approaches the game a little differently. It's funny to compare the spell sets. In the NA version the wording is always "monster" while on the Euro spells it specifically states "monster or player." And the movement rules for the Euro version require permission for heroes to pass through other heroes, which isn't a thing in the NA version.

[@woodbut1]

Impressive..........but I too still have my original.....and agree with virtually all of your opinions of the new to old......I prefer my old set.....But Still I might invest in the new set just because...well ....I just love the game. Also.....My love of Hero Quest is what persuaded me to get "Demeo".VR....I got this on my sons Oculus Quest as soon as I saw it......It's on PCVR and coming to regualr PC as cross play later this year....go check it out. Thanks' for the upload.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

The new set does have a lot going for it. I'm glad to have it.

[@AFCManUk]

No love for the Fimirs? Goblins...no problem. Orcs...lemme at 'em!! Fimirs...hmm, these will require a bit of thought!!

[@jesternario]

You want to know the weird thing? My box has damage on that same corner I. That exact same way.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Even weirder - you aren't the first person to say that! Seems the distribution of weight in the box might be forcing down on that one corner in transit.

[@recowabunga7200]

same for me. Same corner damage - must worst damage i may say.

[@CrimRui]

As a new fan, I prefer the new look. It looks less cartoonish. Love the female Elf and Barbarian. But I understand that classic is dear to your heart. If new Heroquest is made 20 years later, I'll probably prefer this one haha

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I would say the original is far less cartoony - compare the classic Les Edwards cover art to the new cover art, for example. The new edition has a much more modern, almost video-game inspired, aesthetic, it feels very much in the style of things like World of Warcraft and a lot of current fantasy art. The original has a more classic style that was indicative of that era. I think both styles are good, and the art direction for the new edition makes perfect sense - a modern aesthetic that still pays homage to the original. It doesn't surprise me when people prefer it to the original.

[@CrimRui]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Well, for the cover art I prefer Les Edwards as well. Grew up with Conan and loved the D&D from the era accompanied by art from Larry Elmore or Clyde Caldwell. But for the miniatures, the new one does it for me more. Maybe cartoonish is a bad way to express it. What I meant to say it's more more stylized, super-deformed look. But like I said, if I saw and played the classic, I would have probably preferred that as well.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I'm just impressed that Avalon Hill managed to walk that line between making the art style new and appealing to modern audiences while still maintaining sufficient nods to the original. I think a lot of care went into it, and I'm really happy with how they have approached it. I do miss the fimirs, though...

[@doomed2die595]

Spot on assessment of the new game. I dont like the abominations either, they should of been replaced by an Ogre or something else not an aquatic monster, does not fit. Totally spot on review.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Thanks. I guess they didn't want to use an ogre in case they ever do Against the Ogre Horde. Maybe a cyclops? Keep the one-eyed theme of the fimir? I guess a troll would have been the most obvious thing.

[@superspecky4eyes]

Fimir are kind of aquatic/swamp based are they not?

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

@@superspecky4eyes Fimir live on moors and bogs, and shroud themselves in magical mist. They are inspired by Celtic mythology, and are very magical. Of course, none of that was used in the HeroQuest setting where they were just big hitty lads to boss the orcs around. The new abominations lean much more into the aquatic design and they look more like they should be living under the sea than in wetlands. I don't think Hasbro picked the abomination design because they thought of fimir as being amphibious (they are only ever described as lizardlike in the game). I think it was more a case of needing a large "green" monster and wanting to put a unique stamp on one of the creatures like GW did with the unique fimir.

[@gothamgoon4237]

I got the same crumple damage to the corner of mine too. When I get around to it I'll be making plastic reinforcing for the corners which will also cover the damage. Unfortunately in my stupidity and haste to get it open when I received mine I just tried to carefully peel the sticky tapes off by hand and as stupid me should have known I still caused damage to the box. I had no hairdryer at the time. I agree with the abominations. I hate them and think they don't go well at all with the nature of a dungeon crawler. They're aquatic creatures that belong to more a lake or swamp setting. We played the first 6 quests and as always I have to play the evil wizard as no one except me knows how to fill that role. I was nearly always the evil wizard player when I was a child too. Some things never change. Up side is I got to kill the dwarf, wizard and elf in those first quests. Only the barbarian got away. Love this game and I wish I had a group of people to play with on a constant basis but no one except a few like board games anymore. I will always treasure this game, it brings so much nostalgia for me.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Interesting you had the same crumpled corner. It's a lovely-looking game; I do just wish they had picked something else instead of the abominations, although I am sure lots of people love them. And well done on killing all those heroes. Making a barbarian run away is almost as good as killing one, too.

[@NordicNaturalist]

What is the biggest differences between the American and the UK version? 🙏🏼

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

It's hard to say. I think body points for monsters is the one that is most obvious, but the way traps work is an even bigger change, really. Overall, it's lots of things that add up to two very different styles of playing the game. I list all of the biggest differences in this video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKHOpoZ-qLarfbM

[@NordicNaturalist]

Nevermind, just found out, that you have made a video about it allready :-)

[@morganthus6323]

Are there as many miniature figures as there were in the original?

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

You get the same number of miniatures as from the original (31 monsters, 4 heroes), but all of the furniture and doors are now plastic miniatures too.

[@morganthus6323]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring thanks for your prompt answer! Subbed

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Thank you for the support. I really appreciate it.

[@asowle]

Look forward to watching later.... now i got the figures out of the trays, its time to "hot water" most of them....

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Yeah, lots of mine need a good soaking.

[@timyardley7042]

Great video now i also know how to handle those pesky nubs 🙂

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Thanks.

[@ChristianGastl]

13:34 why do you think so ?

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

The background to the femirs is a bit suspect and in today’s climate GW would almost certainly want to distance themselves from problematic aspects for a game that children and families will play.

[@TheFoxx82]

I think old school dice are better. The new ones seems to me like they don't roll very well because of the sharp corners...

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

The new dice are machined better and should be fairer.

[@DavidGreen_au]

I suspect the retail price here down-under will be considerably more than what I paid in '89 :) I'm suspecting 2½× to 3×! So my purchases will be limited to what expansions I don't currently have. So, now you have to paint them all! All those doors to do, something that was not required in the old set :) Good luck with that… if you dare…

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Yeah, I have a lot more painting ahead of me. I have a plan for that, and at least I have a quick way of painting furniture.

[@DavidGreen_au]

You'll need it as there is a lot more to do. But since you prefer the original figures, and use those, then it only the furniture (and doors; so many doors) to do.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

@@DavidGreen_au no I’m going to paint the whole set. Eventually.

[@Ixnatifual]

I replaced all of my home’s furniture with HeroQuest furniture.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

What is this, a home for ants?

[@thecontractor365]

I'm tempted to buy this for the board, dice, doors and furniture, but not the miniatures. I have the original game and those old minis are way, way superior. They have so much more charm and character. The new ones don't even inspire me to paint them.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I do like the new miniatures, but nothing compares to the original HeroQuest aesthetic.

[@carpetsnake83]

Abominations where my least liked but once I saw some of the creativity in the paint jobs people have done online they’ve become my favourite

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

A good paint job can certainly save a miniature sometimes.

[@Tabletop_Epics]

The early Games Workshop qualities and aspects of the original make the original far and incredibly superior, in my opinion. They have applied a modern day wipe-down to the game which has fortunately not stripped it of the core of potential for dungeon crawling fun, but the spirit is definitely gone. It's like how classic porcelain stylized Christmas trees from my youth have made a comeback but have all been released as plastic instead. The weight, feel, and look are all gone, but "Isn't it great that new generations get to..." blah, blah, blah. I wish new generations could maybe, just once, do what new generations used to do more frequently, and that is make new and original things of merit and quality. So many things have just become a loop of Xeroxes of things that were, again and again. HeroQuest was never dead, by the way. Those of us who love it have kept it alive. I don't see this as a service to anyone who ever actually gave a damn about it. This version is just the board game equivalent of I Am Legend to the original Last Man On Earth. I hope the kids enjoy their Will Smith-quality abominations and World of Warcraft-like character design. The furniture is nice, though.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I much prefer the original aesthetic, but I grew up with it. Sure the game never went away, but it wasn't accessible to the masses. Lots of people have heard about HeroQuest and want to play it but don't want to buy an expensive, battered secondhand copy which they then have to restore like I did, or make one from scratch sourcing 3D-printed components. Now there is an edition available all over the world for a new generation to discover. I have personally introduced HeroQuest to numerous players who have all fallen in love with it. Some of them then went and bought their own copies. They wouldn't have done that if the only option was a secondhand copy off eBay. And now that Avalon Hill are the custodians of the game system, they are putting out brand new official content for the first time in decades. With the new hero classes, Rise of the Dread Moon, and the forthcoming Prophecy of Telor and Spirit Queen's Torment they are taking the game further than the original release ever went. It's becoming more than a nostalgic rehash.

[@geeksworkshop]

Watch out some of the monsters like the knights and giant fishbois have multiple wounds.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Yeah that’s because this version is the US rules. There are a lot of differences from the European edition.

[@Caniswalensis]

Two thoughts, First, you really did yourself a bad turn by not getting in on the crowd funding campaign. It rendered an incredible value for this game with all the expansions and extras. Second, its perfectly fine to love what you love, but your nostalgia for the old edition led you to make some statements that are not objectively true. Overall, a good review and I agree with a good deal of it. 😀

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I'm quite happy with my choice not to back crowdfunding campaigns. I've never yet felt regret for missing out on anything. I never hide or excuse my love for the original; I think it's important people know where I'm coming from whenever I talk about HeroQuest. Regarding the truth - any opinion is my opinion; any facts stated you can almost certainly assume are researched.