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Sony A7C vs Sony A6600 - Enough to upgrade to full frame?

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Gaston Shutters

Gaston Shutters

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@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
Do you consider the A7C a better upgrade to full frame than the A7III? let those wanting to move from APS-C to full frame what you think 👇
@kjeld7483
@kjeld7483 4 жыл бұрын
I think the a7c is the better choice, mostly because of the advanced focusing system and the flippy screen
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
@@kjeld7483 Yep!
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
@@PPLRRN there you go !
@keifer39
@keifer39 4 жыл бұрын
​ @Papa Larren Nailed it. I'm getting the A7c but keeping my A6600 as my B camera. I was going to wait a year or 2 and get the A7sIII but with the A7c I can postpone that (more expensive) upgrade. I'm just a hobbyist so I don't need all that the A7SIII has to offer right now.
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
@@keifer39 you’ll enjoy the combo A7C / A6600. I love my A6600.
@ammanchuhan2391
@ammanchuhan2391 4 жыл бұрын
As soon as I heard there’s a giveaway, I was on it! But seriously, I have been watching camera review videos non stop for months now and could really use this to start working on my channel again. Thank you!
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@ammanchuhan2391
@ammanchuhan2391 4 жыл бұрын
@@GastonShutters Thank you!
@Roman.Visuals
@Roman.Visuals 4 жыл бұрын
Just to be clear, at 6:53 you say that a7c processor is 8 times faster than A7iii and on previous video, Sony rep said that A7Siii is also 8 times faster than previous cameras. So a7c and A7Siii have same processor?
@RaoBlackWellizedArman
@RaoBlackWellizedArman 4 жыл бұрын
Actually A7siii is 8 times faster not A7c.
@CO8848_2
@CO8848_2 4 жыл бұрын
The best new features of a7c are gyro and video AF tracking, that makes for very easy video recording.
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
And the no recording vs the A7iii
@GS-lo2hd
@GS-lo2hd 4 жыл бұрын
👍
@PaulFeinberg
@PaulFeinberg 4 жыл бұрын
Nice break down still deciding if I want the flip out screen and better colors over dual card slots and custom buttons....EVF isn’t that big for me
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
This is how I think about that. If this is the only professional camera you’ll use or if you can’t risk losing footage due to a damage card then skip it but for me this camera will be use for more casual work. I never had a card fail on my a6600. But can happen. I prefer to have all the fast processing power, real time tracking and and no record limit than a 7iii with record limit, no real time tracking in video and a much slower AF.
@PaulFeinberg
@PaulFeinberg 4 жыл бұрын
@@GastonShutters yea that’s what I am leaning towards....if I don’t flip the a7siii that shows up at my door tomorrow 🤣🤣, surprisingly my wife hasn’t seemed to care that much unless she knows me better than myself and thinks I am not keeping it LOL I do professional work but I use one card slot for photos and one for video...I have never used both as a back up before.
@annalowe4845
@annalowe4845 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video. May I ask for your opinion? I’m a beginner photographer (I already have photography experience, but still have to learn a lot) and am deciding now between a6600 and a7c. I have a feeling like a7c would be more futureproof choice, but am not sure if I really „need“ a full frame camera. I would mostly do travel and city photography, landscapes. Low-light photography is something I‘m interested in, but a6600 would probably still do the work. In the beginning I will use kit lenses and later add some primes for landscapes. Does it makes sense for a beginner to get a full frame camera or would a6600 be a better choice to learn with and beeing able to try different lenses without spending thousands of dollars on lenses? I’m also not sure if I need a lot of lenses for my needs.
@Sonstwer
@Sonstwer 4 жыл бұрын
What influence has the shutter speed on the giro stabilization of the a7c? Can you still use the 180 degree shutter rule and still stabilize your footage well using the Sony software? Also did you notice any color changes using the Sony stabilization software? Thanks!
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
To be honest with you, I have t noticed anything as normal but I will do a video specifically dedicated to this topic
@tkermi
@tkermi 4 жыл бұрын
Good info as usual! FF size lenses for A7C will cost more but if you can afford that I would definitely choose A7C over current 6000-series models. In one case the crop size Sony is really good though. If you want a lightweight super-tele zoom the SEL70350G lens is reasonably priced and give great results with 525mm FF equivalent focal length. To get this level of sharpness and reach for FF size you need a much more expensive and heavier lens. But then you are rewarded with better picture quality.
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
All that is true!
@sneakergearz
@sneakergearz 4 жыл бұрын
What’s your personal opinion, As you are still recording on your 6600? For a KZbin studio setting, is the full frame worth it in any way. I love everything about my 6600 except having to color grade which the 7c has the new color science might save time. Glass wise, I have a mix of both APSC and full frame so I’m still in the air. I prefer the APSC option of being able to utilize the cheaper glass and still have full resolution. I use my A7riii whenever I’m behind the camera. What’s your personal use case?
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
For KZbin the a6600 with a couple of sigmas like the 16 and 30mm f1.4 And your are set for cheap. I use the A6600 and A7iii to film my videos. Now for professional work for clients Sony A9, A7Siii, A7r4, canon R5
@PIXELvoiz
@PIXELvoiz 4 жыл бұрын
@@GastonShutters how you manage all those cameras 😮 would you think R5 is better in Photography when comparing with a7Riv?
@PIXELvoiz
@PIXELvoiz 4 жыл бұрын
are you happy with the crop lenses performance with a7Riii? can I have some pictures taken like that? Instagram may be?
@sneakergearz
@sneakergearz 4 жыл бұрын
@@PIXELvoiz I use my 6600 almost exclusively for my KZbin videos. If I do any work or events, the A7Riii works great with any e amount lens. Going down to 18mp is still plenty of resolution. Having full frame lenses are ideal and generally better but there are some quality APSC lenses you can take advantage of as well. After hearing Gaston response and just pondering my needs since the A7C, I find the 6600 is almost the better in studio KZbin camera. Lens selection, price, and fixed lighting really negate the benefits of full frame. Especially specific to video and 4K, they are almost indistinguishable.
@ksm9961
@ksm9961 2 жыл бұрын
@@sneakergearz what lens good for videos
@PIXELvoiz
@PIXELvoiz 4 жыл бұрын
I grab my morning tea for the show. nice comparison 👍 does a7c has crop mode?
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
Hehehe. Where are you watching from ?
@PIXELvoiz
@PIXELvoiz 4 жыл бұрын
@@GastonShutters Sri Lanka 🇱🇰 ♥
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
Oh nice!
@TylerTwombly
@TylerTwombly 4 жыл бұрын
Before this video, I was leaning toward A7c for the flip screen, but now thinking that if I’m using it powered and with mic cable attached, the flip UP screen on the A6600 might be better for what I’d use it for. The low light performance of the A7c is really attractive but the cost of full frame glass is a good point you raise and it’s kind of pointless to put APS-C lenses on a full-frame camera. Decisions decisions!!
@mikkomonto6946
@mikkomonto6946 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to remap the Exposure Compensation dial to other functions? Sony removing the front dial is a bit of a downer for full manual shooters.
@Roman.Visuals
@Roman.Visuals 4 жыл бұрын
I made the same question a while back and answer is no.
@mikkomonto6946
@mikkomonto6946 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Roman.Visuals Thanks!
@armando.visuals
@armando.visuals 4 жыл бұрын
@@Roman.Visuals that sucks
@willbrink
@willbrink Жыл бұрын
Good review. If I was starting fresh, I'd get the A7C, but not worth upgrading from the 6600 for me. I shoot very little low light stuff myself, and little vid, etc.
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it
@Anthony-bn6kj
@Anthony-bn6kj 4 жыл бұрын
All fixed lol. Great video, as always!!
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
hahaha, yeah I got it mixed up with the A7Siii Comparison which is a videoI filmed back to back.
@kjeld7483
@kjeld7483 4 жыл бұрын
I've got a question regarding the A7c giveaway: Do we also have to follow you on Facebook? Because it says that in the description of the giveaway video but you dont mention it in any of your videos (from what I can remember)
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
IG and Twitter. But go ahead and follow on Facebook :D I'll appreciate it.
@kjeld7483
@kjeld7483 4 жыл бұрын
@@GastonShutters Unfortunately I don't use Facebook but I love ur Instagram profile :) However if I ever create a Facebook account, I'll sure be following you 🤟
@Jgheiler
@Jgheiler 3 жыл бұрын
Hello there, what camera was this video filmed on?
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters Жыл бұрын
A6600
@naznazrin4447
@naznazrin4447 4 жыл бұрын
If i use sony 70-200mm f2.8 on sony a7c is it comfortable?
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
Well you are going to hold the lens not the camera in this case :)
@huwmorgan51
@huwmorgan51 4 жыл бұрын
The issue for me comes down to size and portability. I've got an a7RIV and an a6600, using the latter for travel and casual shooting. I can take my a6600 and the Zeiss 16-70 anywhere and it's a beautiful compact solution that takes great photos. The autofocus system is very nice and quite comparable to the a7RIV. It gives me an equivalent of a 24-105 mm zoom in a nice compact package. If I get the a7C, I'll have to either make do with the kit lens that doesn't zoom very far or buy the Sony 24-105 that will add significant weight and size versus the Zeiss 16-70. In short, form should follow function. If you want a no-compromise camera for professional work, the a7RIV is the best solution. Equipped with decent glass, it really produces excellent image quality. If you want to travel light and still produce nice shots, the a6600 with the Zeiss 16-70 works great. The a7C is kinda caught in the middle and doesn't really scratch either itch.
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
The A7RIV is the best at resolution and image quality but damn is slow!
@WitoldHojda
@WitoldHojda 4 жыл бұрын
I own the A6600 and I am very happy with it, I know that the full frame is better but the lenses are also more expensive. Could you ask for material comparing the a6600 and a7c on the photo examples?
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
Sure. Check my first impression video I posted some quick pictures I took before I had to return the camera
@phucmapvlog
@phucmapvlog 4 жыл бұрын
Just entered, keep up the good content 👍🏻
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
Wish you good luck
@mrN3w7
@mrN3w7 4 жыл бұрын
Is a pretty good upgrade from a6000 to a7c... that's what I did (well, on pre-order... waiting to get it :D - that's why I am here on KZbin looking at all the videos for a7c... quite excited).
@adamyuman8987
@adamyuman8987 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comparison between the two cameras. I was watching for the part about auto focus and processor comparison. May I ask, given that the A7C has a much improved processor and the latest video auto focus tracking updates do you think it tracks faster in video or at least as good as the A6600? I like the a 6600 because it’s much faster video auto focus then my a73. I would get the A7C if Video auto focus is that much better then the A6600. Thanks.
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
The focusing speed of both cameras feel about the same in the limited time I had to play with it
@armando.visuals
@armando.visuals 4 жыл бұрын
Low light is important to me especially living inLas Vegas for some night shots. I had to get a different camera for now but hoping to get lucky december or just be able to move up to full frame. The A7S 3 will be the dream camera b ut the A7C will be great to own
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
☝️
@rupestrevideo
@rupestrevideo 4 жыл бұрын
Sony APSC cameras are also really good in low light. There’s about one, one and a third stop difference.
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
That is true but the A7C or A7III comes ahead
@7955steven
@7955steven 4 жыл бұрын
What camera settings can I use when shooting video to shot in MP4 so I can download to my iPad Pro and iPhone 12 Pro Max?
@GrizzlyOutdoorAdventures
@GrizzlyOutdoorAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your explanation. But I still can't choose. I am thinking of buying a new camera, but I am not sure between the sony A7c with Sony 16-35MM F / 2.8 GM or the Sony A6600 with Sony 16-55MM F / 2.8 G.
@theresajurgenssen3494
@theresajurgenssen3494 3 жыл бұрын
im trying to decide the same, may i ask what you decided in the end and why?
@agnibdas7582
@agnibdas7582 4 жыл бұрын
Does gyrodtaa on sony a7c works in 120fps footage? And does gyrodata works with manual lens? Camera conspiracy maade a video which confused me aabout thr mnual lens.
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
Good question ?
@thienlo
@thienlo 4 жыл бұрын
My guest is the gyro sensor built in the camera, so it would work fine with manual lenses.
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
I believe it does because it has to do with the movement of the camera in space.
@agnibdas7582
@agnibdas7582 4 жыл бұрын
What about 120fps gyro stability?
@thienlo
@thienlo 4 жыл бұрын
@@agnibdas7582 I think the gyro data is stored in every frame of the movement of camera.
@armando.visuals
@armando.visuals 4 жыл бұрын
Quick question... Do you think that the Sony 24-70 f4 will be a good lens to start for the A7C? If it was just use for video.
@sc4834
@sc4834 4 жыл бұрын
Gaston, is the A7siii or A7c better for video?
@rajeshvelappan8396
@rajeshvelappan8396 3 жыл бұрын
Which is the best zoom lens for a7c?
@ranierip99
@ranierip99 4 жыл бұрын
Great job Thanks Gastón
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
👌
@theresajurgenssen3494
@theresajurgenssen3494 3 жыл бұрын
I am upgrading from micro four thirds camera and am considering whether to get the A6600 or a7c. I would prefer investing in the a7c only that I am struggling to find a good and still lightweight lens set up with proper reach. I need my camera set up for travels and it just seems like it will end up being a lot heavier, any suggestions?
@jimuelpascua8349
@jimuelpascua8349 4 жыл бұрын
A7C is a great camera, hands down! A7C can record 115 RAW files than A6600 with 46 RAW files at full speed. Love this video! Awesome. 👌🏻
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
Damn I haven’t tried to spray 155 raw 😂
@joshgates2671
@joshgates2671 4 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for a camera thats great for my own actor headshots and 4k audition videos. Will the a7c with kit and a Sony 85 1.8 be best bet? Or is there any better camera & combo you would suggest? Budget around $3000
@paulclarke4571
@paulclarke4571 3 жыл бұрын
Why do all the reviewers miss what is a very important issue to me and many others? In APS-C the tele lense will have a greater reach. Therefor my 75-400 gives me 525 reach. FF will have a much more expensive and much heavier lense to get that. You also ignore price. We are not all rich and we are not all professionals and can write off the cost as an investment. Therefore I get a lighter and cheaper set up that suits my bush walking hobby.
@jacekmrozek158
@jacekmrozek158 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting material! I have a question for you and the viewers, maybe they already have some experience. Have you already checked if the a7c is not overheating when recording 4k after about 1h (I have A7III and after about 60 minutes it overheats and turns off)? I am thinking of buying this A7C, but the condition is that it cannot overheat while recording 4k in continuous mode.
@2cats1guy
@2cats1guy 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I’m on the fence between the 2 cameras (upgrading from a99 and a57). Would be nice to see how both perform side by side in video.
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll be doing more videos.
@Eyewake
@Eyewake 4 жыл бұрын
I love my A6600 but the A7C is tempting.
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
No need to change if that does the job
@MoElf
@MoElf 4 жыл бұрын
thank you man
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
🙏
@RossPower7
@RossPower7 4 жыл бұрын
2 notifications so I knew I had to check this out 😂
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha Hope you enjoy it.
@RossPower7
@RossPower7 4 жыл бұрын
@@GastonShutters I did! As always man! I appreciate all the content recently, I'm a panasonic micro four thirds shooter so it's interesting finding more out about full frame because I' starting to question if I'm limited with the 2x crop of micro four thirds
@marcooww_5211
@marcooww_5211 4 жыл бұрын
Notification squad☝️☝️
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah buddy!
@abhishekmajumdar5533
@abhishekmajumdar5533 4 жыл бұрын
I hv followed all the steps on the begining of your give away to get the A7C....as i don't hv enough money to buy any full frame camera. That's y i'm curious if i'll be the lucky ony to get it. I'm shooting with Sony A6300 for last 3 yrs and couldn't upgrade from it due to lack of money... let's see 🥴
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
One way to find out is to participate and wait for the announcement. Good luck
@abhishekmajumdar5533
@abhishekmajumdar5533 4 жыл бұрын
I hv already participated when you first announced the give away ☺️
@Montieyt
@Montieyt 4 жыл бұрын
Just upgraded from the a6600 to A7C, the 29th can't get here fast enough.
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
Wow congrats!
@kptalteamtv6084
@kptalteamtv6084 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats
@Montieyt
@Montieyt 4 жыл бұрын
@@kptalteamtv6084 Yes thanks, I only had the A6600 for less than 2 months, 1 week after opening the box new the camera stopped detecting lenses, lemon camera, check my youtube for the video. Sent it in to Sony to get fixed under warranty, Hopefully I don't have bad luck with the A7C.
@Montieyt
@Montieyt 4 жыл бұрын
@@kptalteamtv6084 kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6Col5RvqbmNlac
@kptalteamtv6084
@kptalteamtv6084 4 жыл бұрын
@@Montieyt l've seen it. What a bad luck...
@afd1040
@afd1040 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I prefer a7c for the frame and the kit lens . If I win it I wanna shoot a short documentary about "Being homeless during covid in İstanbul ".
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
Damn 😞
@afd1040
@afd1040 4 жыл бұрын
@@GastonShutters I am sorry that I made you feel bad .
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
All good.
@wayofeman
@wayofeman 4 жыл бұрын
My all time favorite Sony A6000 Series ♥️♥️♥️
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
😍
@TVe200
@TVe200 4 жыл бұрын
A7C is definitely not enough to upgrade to full frame. It have the same bad screen as the a6600, an even worse EVF and a worse grip I own all the best APS-C lenses so if I upgrade new lenses will cost a lot, a cheap body don't hjelp.
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
Stick to APSC nothing wrong with it especially if you own an a6600
@borisalexanderknop4916
@borisalexanderknop4916 4 жыл бұрын
Well, actually i am waiting for a 30 MP flip screen Sony Alpha IV. I would have loved to purchase a Sony Alpha 7 r IV. But it came fast and with a 60 MP Sensor. That puts the workflow into danger. The 42 MP of the Sony Alpha 7 r II were okay to handle. And then there is a Panasonic Lumix S5 full frame that does shifting, enabling high resolution when and where you want it. Maybe the Sony Alpha IV can do that too? Until today all this specs have me avoided to get into the full frame. I have done lot of APS-C photography. With mirror. With old lenses. Nikon (d80, d800 (the perfect sensor?), d610) and Canon EOS 80d. I always wanted to buy a full frame mirrorless. To finally return to full frame. Back in those days with my Nikon F401 and F80. So i always tried to ignore the (fabulous) Sony Alpha 6000 series. But when i hear that Sony Alpha IV will not come to the stores until quarter III of 2021, what is there - again and again - to wait for? Maybe this slick Alpha 7c for now and as a quite excellent backup camera for in a year from now, when i finally go get the Alpha 7 IV. Who is gonna pay me for my troubling thoughts? 🤣
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
I always say get what it going to get you shooting today. Don’t miss shots. Tech will always move on. When the A74 comes out the rumors of the A75 will start circulating soon after 😂. Impossible to win.
@kanknw
@kanknw 4 жыл бұрын
Start from zv1 vs 6300 and now I’m here 😂
@LuisMarquez80
@LuisMarquez80 4 жыл бұрын
Flip up screen is dumb, A7C ftw
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
👍
@RaoBlackWellizedArman
@RaoBlackWellizedArman 4 жыл бұрын
Probably for your needs only actually. For me flip to the side is dumb.
@nycekix
@nycekix 4 жыл бұрын
I need to win that giveaway I need to switch from canon to Sony! Can’t wait til Christmas 🎄 hopefully my name is called
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck
@WoodyKennedy
@WoodyKennedy 4 жыл бұрын
I've got some bits of lung for sale now 😀
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
😁
@zinezinzadan
@zinezinzadan 4 жыл бұрын
Gaston thank you so much for the giveaway!! I don’t have Instagram but I subscribed on everything else. I wish the best to whoever wins. I would finally be able to start my KZbin channel that I’ve been holding off on because I can’t afford a full frame camera and I want to make low light movies with no noise. And whoever wins please give Gaston a shoutout in your vids for making it possible for you to make videos with a camera this advanced ^_^
@JM-le3wn
@JM-le3wn 4 жыл бұрын
Really kind of wish the A7c would disappear into obscurity...... so that Sony would be prompted to hurry up with the cameras we really want..... A7iv and A93....
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@neogod29
@neogod29 4 жыл бұрын
done
@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 4 жыл бұрын
😊
@sijilo
@sijilo 4 жыл бұрын
💐🤗
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