10 Things I Like/Hate about the Sony A7C

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Arthur R

Arthur R

Күн бұрын

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@salsabilahmedshrestho960
@salsabilahmedshrestho960 3 жыл бұрын
Pros: 1. Small Size (positive if you wanna carry it in backpack, negative for pros) 2. Articulation Screen (for positioning your shots well and vertical shots of insta) 3. No record limit (for podcasts, interviews, live sessions) 4. No overheating (good for handheld vlogs) 5. Good Port Flaps (Weather sealed, can use it in rain, doesn't create noise) 6. A7siii Color Science (This is a must, no color grading for those who like it) 7. Eye Autofocus (This is a must) 8. Gyro Data (for Stabilization in post production for a little crop) 9. Simple Button Layout (which can also be a con as usually pros buy at this price range) 10. The shutter sound is awesome (personal preference of arthur) Cons: 1. Small Grip (pros will have a hard time, nothing to worry about if you have a strap) 2. EVF is not good (not a problem if you are not using this for money making or vlog) 3. Max shutter is 1/4000sec (you can't shoot at noon and against the sun) 4. 1 SD card slot (not a problem for ameteurs, problem for wedding photographers) 5. No custom buttons (not a problem if you dont shoot weddings or in different lighting at once) 6. no 4k60 (not great if you make commercials and wedding vids, no problem for vlogs or etc) 7. Old Sensor (personal preference, nothing to worry about) 8. Old Menu (this is an inconvinience for everyone) 9. Rolling shutter (nobody notices this if its not exactly commercial video) 10. Overpriced (yes its 200$ overpriced, my personal opinion) - So, for vloggers, get a 20mm 1.8 lens with this and you're good to go. - for general people and one man army who just want a good full frame camera, go for it with the kit lens then buy a 20mm 1.8 or 85 mm 1.8 or 50 mm 1.8 as you start to know your preference and field of work. - For commercial and wedding shooters who will color grade and use a gimbal and usually be standing behind the camera anyway, buy the a7iii instead. you will get a ton of mileage from that.
@JDiculous1
@JDiculous1 3 жыл бұрын
For vlogging I prefer the versatility of the 16-35mm f/4 though it's an additional $200. Well honestly for vlogging I wouldn't even use a mirrorless camera actually, would prefer an action camera since the stabilization is superior.
@TheeMr72k
@TheeMr72k 3 жыл бұрын
Whats your opinion on the Tamron 24-70 for portrait photography
@tolgcast
@tolgcast 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly.
@professionalpotato4764
@professionalpotato4764 3 жыл бұрын
Max shutter is technically 1/2000 if you care about bokeh. Any faster than 1/2000 and your bokeh is cut in half.
@andersistbesser
@andersistbesser 3 жыл бұрын
@@professionalpotato4764 ?? I sometimes shoot at 16000 shutter speed , bokee is the same
@CarlBergsdorf
@CarlBergsdorf 3 жыл бұрын
I pretty much agree with everything you said about the A7C but I must point out the production quality of your reviews just keeps getting better and better, it's really nice.
@HenrikoMagnifico
@HenrikoMagnifico 5 ай бұрын
Finally bought mine! Looks like an awesome upgrade 😊
@MrJohnnyMel
@MrJohnnyMel 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic seeing you make the presentation outside. Great sound and a succinct to the point easily understood review, great job Arthur
@romst5793
@romst5793 3 жыл бұрын
Rumour has it, this man is still walking to this day
@gavinye
@gavinye 3 жыл бұрын
I bought one last year before Christmas. I have to say my favorite feature of A7c is the gyro stabilization which is super useful for me. I don't need to bring gimble with me when I go out with kids, I can just bring the camera and take photos and videos. This makes the usage rate a lot higher. I think it is super good for daily/travel use, especially with family. 😊
@danielbroomhall8882
@danielbroomhall8882 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but even the A6600 has more features than the A7C
@tevingodwin5200
@tevingodwin5200 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@sh4rkhappy
@sh4rkhappy 2 ай бұрын
Just ordered one for 1300 eur with kit lense. I need small compact camera for a family shooting. Im bored of heavy cameras and fixed lenses.
@maf3695
@maf3695 3 жыл бұрын
After this video I feel good about getting my a7c for $1,497. Heck of an upgrade for me coming from a6000 😉
@adisorpop
@adisorpop 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I sold my 6600 to get the a7c. It kills it in low light. With Tamron and Samyang making good lenses now. It amazing. Plus the gyro data works with steady shot on.
@MattiaMirabello
@MattiaMirabello 3 жыл бұрын
That's an huge upgrade. The price is right. Puts the A6600 to shame.
@maf3695
@maf3695 3 жыл бұрын
@@adisorpop what additional lenses do you recommend? I also bought 24-70mm f4 under $500. I still have the a6000 with 50mm 1.8 and two kit lenses 16-50 & 55-210
@adisorpop
@adisorpop 3 жыл бұрын
@@maf3695 I have the Tamron 28-200 f2.8-5.6 it’s very good all round and the Samyang 45 F1.8. Very happy with both. I will get the Samyang 18 f2.8 soon.
@maf3695
@maf3695 3 жыл бұрын
@@adisorpop ok thanks
@LittleMountainLife
@LittleMountainLife 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your review. I’ll be buying the a7c soon to upgrade my vlogging with an iPhone.
@DeeJayHitMan18Rules
@DeeJayHitMan18Rules 3 жыл бұрын
That's my next camera for sure...
@facundovaldiviac1504
@facundovaldiviac1504 9 ай бұрын
Was it?
@campa_t
@campa_t 3 жыл бұрын
this guy is lowkey flexing his gimbal
@JessDemant
@JessDemant 3 жыл бұрын
I've had the Sony A7c for a while for photography and it's fallen more and more to my liking as time goes on, so I actually no longer use my Sony A9 and consider selling it. The size is perfect for me and I love that the viewfinder puts in the side of the camera as I prefer that way of photographing. For the viewfinder I have bought an eyecup, and now the viewfinder has become really good to work with. I absolutely love the Color Science, and now I often only photograph in jpg. My only downside with the camera is that the LCD screen could well be more high resolution, but it is still possible to work with in most situations. Regarding the smaller number of buttons and wheels on the camera compared to, for example, Sony A9, it is not a problem for me as I switched the buttons and wheels that are to the ones I use the most. I always use focus tracking, so I do not need a button / wheel to move focus around with, as I just lay the focus point with focus -tracking on the subject that should be in focus and then I can move the subject where I want in the viewfinder or on the screen. I think it's much faster that way too. Many greetings Jess
@mr_ion
@mr_ion Жыл бұрын
How do you feel about it now, after 2 years? Btw - any impressions on the A6700? I'm still deciding between the A7C and A6700 (i'm not a pro but want something solid for the next 5-7 years)
@JessDemant
@JessDemant Жыл бұрын
@@mr_ion It ended up with that I couldn't live with the poor EVF anyway, so I sold the camera
@thebinalz
@thebinalz 5 ай бұрын
@@JessDemantso what did you get afterward?
@JessDemant
@JessDemant 5 ай бұрын
@@thebinalz Sony A7cII and I love it 👍
@nafnaf0
@nafnaf0 3 жыл бұрын
15:18 The biggest problem is the poor EVF (small 0.59 mag factor, low resolution, small eye cup). The mag factor needs to be at least 0.70x to bring it in line with the A6000 to A6600. For the Sony A7Cii I would expect they will have a larger EVF and use the higher resolution from the brand new A7iv
@AlejandroPirchi
@AlejandroPirchi 3 жыл бұрын
I sold our A6300 and A7II to go and get a pair of these A7C, best choice ever, al the benefits of APS-C with FF and the best vídeo of the lineup before buying an A7SIII. The tilting screen, AF and Gyro Data are the best features
@jeroenvdw
@jeroenvdw 3 жыл бұрын
Well it is a big step up from A7II. Why didn't you buy an A7III if I may ask? The weight?
@AlejandroPirchi
@AlejandroPirchi 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeroenvdw They are going to be used 90% for video and the A7C has better AF, color and has the gyro data so it has worse ergonomics for photos but better video, the size and weight are kind of irrelevant, also flip screen is better for gimbal use
@leo2024-o6n
@leo2024-o6n 3 жыл бұрын
I bought my A6600 thank you video with EDU one year ago I really appreciated that video to take the best decision, I happy with my A6600 I don't plan to upgrade to Full frame less this camera is for me a joke of Sony, grip and view founder in a6600 is better that this, good detail video I keep it my APS-C camera.
@ArthurR
@ArthurR 3 жыл бұрын
A6600 is awesome! And a great deal with the EDU discount.
@antalbalint
@antalbalint 3 жыл бұрын
So am I. I also love traveling with this awesome camera. Having the sigma trio and my new fav lens the f2.8 16-55 G. Much more comfortable and fun to use.
@gregorybettis2392
@gregorybettis2392 3 жыл бұрын
Great review! I’ve looked at this camera too and I also think the a6600 (which I currently own) has more features than the a7c. I do like the idea of a more compact full-frame camera, but Sony could have done just a bit more on this model.
@tinplater
@tinplater 2 жыл бұрын
I own both and one not mentioned often advantage for me is the three memory modes on the A7C as opposed to the two on the A6600. And AF for animal and human implimented.
@superelectic45
@superelectic45 6 ай бұрын
I don't think having a single card slot is a deal breaker. Many pro's used DSLR's with only 1 card slot for years before it was introduced. Also, back when we shot film we handed the films over to a lab and crossed our fingers for decades
@GuitarRJP
@GuitarRJP 3 жыл бұрын
I like choice! The nice thing about Sony's systems is there are a lot of options for people - sure to be something that works for almost everyone. For me it fell between the A6600 and the A7iii. Now, the problem with the A7iii for me is limited recording time. The a6600 is a popup screen but is an aps-c sensor. We are splitting hairs here, but if you are just starting out and want to have small setup for run and gun, this works perfectly. Now, you could wait for a7IV but I believe it is going to be about $2000 and will not be out for 3-6 more months. So, for me it is the perfect fit!
@Thunderbird1337
@Thunderbird1337 3 жыл бұрын
For the point with the shutter sound alone this video deserves a like :D Having a nice shutter sound is so satisfying and underrated :)
@saifaldin_
@saifaldin_ 3 жыл бұрын
It would be better still if he had turned off the focus ‘beep’ for that part, though. That way we can hear the shutter sound without distractions.
@lawrencewight3013
@lawrencewight3013 9 ай бұрын
I always like your review of cameras and lens. Thank you. We film wedding's with a6600s #3 and I saw the a7c full frame. I think both cameras are enough for wedding video's. The reason we have two a7c are close up for the vow's, if I need to zoom in post it will look as good or better than the a6600. A6600 were on sale for $1000.00 a7c were $1500.00. Now getting lens that are 1.8 or 1.4 are a lot more than APSC. If we are filming a couple doing a love story-love walk, I will use three camera's and two GoPro's at the same time so they will only have to do that one time.
@AMM_fotografia
@AMM_fotografia Жыл бұрын
I’ve watched a lot of reviews on the A7c and everyone that says it’s max shutter speed is 1/4000 forgets to mention that in the silent mode, it goes up to 1/8000. And I thinks it solves the problem (at least for me) because I would only use such high speed when photographing with natural light.
@kevinbonilla5161
@kevinbonilla5161 3 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for your review
@soholingo
@soholingo 3 жыл бұрын
You are going to miss it when you send it back, you dont mention the updated usb-c port.
@KennyVo
@KennyVo 3 жыл бұрын
Went from a6000 to a6500 with the Sigma trio and just scored a used a7iii for $1200 and a used 24mm f1.4 G master for $750 locally!
@PhobiaSoft
@PhobiaSoft 3 жыл бұрын
That is a phenomenal deal for a 24 GM, well done!
@The_Drive_Inside
@The_Drive_Inside 3 жыл бұрын
Big pros!! Sony catalyst… A7Siii three color science… Flip screen… Small body with a Z battery. I’m sold
@rebeccamoore4177
@rebeccamoore4177 3 жыл бұрын
Super helpful. I am tempted to cross over to the full frame side, and this has appeal to me as I do quite a bit of travel photography, so small is good. But... I love my a6600 so much! I upgraded to that from the a6000 and my shooting experience is so much nicer. And all my lenses are apsc. When/if I upgrade I also want more megapixels. For now I am content, your review helps. And snow shots in Texas! Fun.
@sn5953
@sn5953 2 жыл бұрын
Your illustration of the gyro stabilization starting at around 4:05, is very nice - the bottom frame showing you filming with A7C (and showing the amount of camera shake) adds perspective as to how much stabilization could be expected for the given amount of camera shake (which would not be conveyed if only the top left and top right frames [showing the unstabilized and gyro-stabilized footage] were included). One small piece of info missing from the details is what software was used to render this gyro-stabilized footage (Catalyst Browse? Anyway, I guess it may not matter too much).
@Ometecuhtli
@Ometecuhtli 3 жыл бұрын
I actually consider the use of an older sensor a plus, knowing already its limitations, pros and cons from reviews of previous users, while the new ones bring sometimes "surprises" that can make or break a camera.
@jordanwood5530
@jordanwood5530 3 жыл бұрын
Im looking into getting this as my first camera, this video has been really helpful. Thank you
@mm_99321
@mm_99321 3 жыл бұрын
05:16 love how mirrorless cameras introduced that "shutter sound" when they came out 10 years ago, and now it's just something normal
@daisukevideo
@daisukevideo 3 жыл бұрын
The a7c is a good camera! I also have that camera. I'm excited because it's so light and compact. This video was very interesting! I will come to play again. With love from Japan :)
@9adriano21
@9adriano21 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this honest review! I’ve decided to move to FF from a LUMIX G9, Sony seems like the best system, but honestly other than AF and Low-light, the A7C if a huge downgrade from my G9. I guess I’ll have to pony-up for an A7SIII, or hold my breath for the A7IV.
@mirrorlessny
@mirrorlessny 3 жыл бұрын
if 12mp is okey for your photo needs then a7s3 is it, don't think a7iv will have anything new over a7s3 just more megapixels & no 4k120
@gregmiller98
@gregmiller98 Жыл бұрын
Do you think it is worth to upgrade from a a6100 to the a7c now in early 2024? I would like to move to full frame but dont pay a lot for the body, and the a7cii is a lot of monye but the a7c is in myy budget kinda if i sell my a6100.
@cthomas025
@cthomas025 3 жыл бұрын
2:35 I feel like the most important question that I didn't see addressed in the comments is...why is there a sinking picnic table to pose on?
@PhobiaSoft
@PhobiaSoft 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Arthur! The A7C is my favorite camera, but your criticisms of it are completely valid. The EVF especially is egregious and I wish Sony had just dropped it entirely. I purchased the A7C for two reasons - the side-flipping screen, and USB-C charging. I use Sony's ECM-B1M hotshoe shotgun mic, so the upwards flipping screen of the A6000 line never worked for me, despite how much I love those cameras. I am however very surprised that USB-C wasn't listed as one of your positives. The fact that I can bring a single charger to top off my smartphone, laptop, and now camera, is a huge plus for me. I really hope that Sony releases a future A7CII with more improvements, but based on how negative people seem to be reacting to the first iteration, I'm less sure we will see a new revision. Its a shame, using this thing is a dream.
@ArthurR
@ArthurR 3 жыл бұрын
Good point! I never charge via USB, so thats why i didnt list it, but if you do, it is much nicer now.
@annareutov2445
@annareutov2445 3 жыл бұрын
Great video like always👍
@evawettergren7492
@evawettergren7492 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I've been waffling about this camera ever since I heard about it. At first I thought it would be the perfect solution (I love the small aps-c camera I use today but REALLY would like the better low light capability of a Full Frame) but I have heard some negative things that made me hesitate. Now you've resolved it to a definite NO for me. I will keep my aps-c and perhaps one day they'll make an updated a7c where they have solved those issues. Well, one can dream, right?
@Pharesm
@Pharesm 3 жыл бұрын
I know, some of those snags are annoying. But there is that other thing, that the best camera is the one you have with you. And if you wait for another 3 Years till Sony gets around to make another smallish, accessible, reasonably priced camera, the drawbacks of waiting may be greater. Just saying to take that into account.
@mirrorlessny
@mirrorlessny 3 жыл бұрын
@Builder that's a very good point 👍 I remember upgrading to a7iii from apsc & the improvements were noticeable, especially in low light, but at the same time if you are happy with what you got then maybe it's better to wait for next generation
@bigrod359
@bigrod359 3 жыл бұрын
You make the best Sony videos bro keep it up
@electrichimp
@electrichimp 3 жыл бұрын
Bought mine brand new for a little over $1100 (awesome discount in the oficial Sony Store in Peru… Awesome deal). I honestly don’t mind its flaws, I’m just so happy with the full frame look and amazing low light compared to my a6500.
@AlejandroPirchi
@AlejandroPirchi 3 жыл бұрын
We made the same deal here in Argentina, two A7Cs for 2100
@ArthurR
@ArthurR 3 жыл бұрын
Thats crazy, I'd buy a few for $1100 each!
@AlejandroPirchi
@AlejandroPirchi 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArthurR You can buy them and get them shipped I think, right now it´s 1188 dollars
@MrGuler06
@MrGuler06 3 жыл бұрын
Price gap is huge. Why is this thing stupidly expensive here in the US?
@AlejandroPirchi
@AlejandroPirchi 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrGuler06 It has to do with exchange rates, in Argentina there are two, the official one Is 96 pesos for a dollar (with a LOT of restrictions) and the black market dollar Is 147 pesos for a dollar. Sony camera prices are set for the official exchange of $96 for a dollar so the A7C is worth US$1900 but if you Sell your dollar bills in the black market you get paid $147 per US$1 and thus you only have to Sell US$1188 to buy the A7C in Argentine pesos at an official Sony Store
@olegvorkunov5400
@olegvorkunov5400 3 жыл бұрын
Just got A7C and the first thing I checked is EVF. To my surprise it was perfectly normal and perfect enough for photography. I am used to having A6500 and have RX100 VII. No complaints here. Waiting for the battery to charge, so I can take the first shots.
@vivlund
@vivlund 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. This viewfinder issue seems to put a lot of people off this camera, but I have no issues with using it.
@ricardorojas8540
@ricardorojas8540 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful review!! I have an A6500.- Have been looking into upgrading to A6600 or the A7C... Looks like I will standby, and await the following A7C mark II.- I do like the compact full frame camera, mainly for photography.
@DidYouKnow-t7v
@DidYouKnow-t7v 2 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews Arthur !
@KyleG0211
@KyleG0211 3 жыл бұрын
I've had the A7C for about two weeks now and love it! Even if it was cheaper than the A7III I still would have bought the A7C because I love the auto focus and primarily the no record time limit - that sold me! This is my first mirrorless though and I'm already thinking about a used A7RIII for stills. But overall I knew what was a priority for me as a prosumer and have no regrets, it's a great little camera.
@djremotion2
@djremotion2 3 жыл бұрын
LOVE these photos of your family. Colors and sharpness and overal look is 11/10.
@22s22a
@22s22a 3 жыл бұрын
I've noticed people trying to say this is more primarily for video than photography, I disagree. it's a great photography camera..I mainly use the screen rather than EVF it's good for me.
@4ksydneyeventvideographer806
@4ksydneyeventvideographer806 3 жыл бұрын
Great footage in the snow. btw: what Camera / lens is that (wife holding baby @3:05) ?
@thesmartI
@thesmartI 3 жыл бұрын
That info. I just have one question, what watch are you wearing? 😅
@Hum4yaar
@Hum4yaar 3 жыл бұрын
What a honest opinion about A7C . Im bit confused to buy this i am using 6300 but the vendor told me to buy A7iii instead of this. What a beautiful bokhe background in your video. Which camera and lense you have used for this video. Love from Pakistan
@SingerAuto1967
@SingerAuto1967 3 жыл бұрын
I understand why they didn’t give it a bigger grip, with the body itself being a little thicker to pack in the full frame sensor they needed to cut somewhere to keep it compact. I personally would have rather had a thicker grip and front wheel. It would have been a very small difference in size but add more user comfort.
@johnd9357
@johnd9357 3 жыл бұрын
But with those upgrades, it’s just an a7iii. There would be no point to having the two cameras.
@amitkrupal1234
@amitkrupal1234 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video even Areesz Gandhi (fashion photographer from Mumbai) mentioned about shutter sound. Its way more cooler than A7iii. I wish Sony adds this in A7m4, coz I need those extra dials & button in wedding photography.
@greygoose3936
@greygoose3936 3 жыл бұрын
I'm using an A7R2 and I love my scroll wheels and custom buttons. I want to spend as little time in the menu as possible when I'm shooting.
@srjeetraam1364
@srjeetraam1364 2 жыл бұрын
Hello brother..a7r2 is good for photography...extremely lowlight excellent images quality results...i want used camera buy a7sii or a7r2...which camra body suggest me..please guide me
@ScottsReviews
@ScottsReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for setting me straight. I am thinking about selling the a7riii for the 7c. After watching this you convinced me to wait until they put 4k 60p in more of their FF line.
@BADBRYZ
@BADBRYZ 3 жыл бұрын
Great job. This is helping my purchasing decision.
@BEN-gx3zo
@BEN-gx3zo 3 жыл бұрын
I love my ac7 +2860 kit lens :) Is so compact.
@pdotc
@pdotc 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. Would you be doing a comparison video between the A7C and let's say the A6600/6400. I get that everyone says this is a A73 crammed in a smaller body with some improvements. However, imo I think this is more of a bridgegap between APSC to full frame. Which is what I'm looking to do. I currently have the A6600 and would love to see a video like this comparing likes dislikes between the two. I know video take time so I'd like any feedback you may provide.
@NickL0VIN
@NickL0VIN 3 жыл бұрын
The A7C + Sigma 28-70mm f/2.8 is the same size and same price as the a6600 + Sony 16-55mm f2.8! Full frame for the win! You’ll only lose 4mm on the wide end going for the FF setup tho.
@saifaldin_
@saifaldin_ 3 жыл бұрын
Comparable, but not really similar. The A7C will be better for low light, but if you compare these exact pairings, the Sigma is not going to yield the same quality as the Sony zoom. Too much LoCA for my liking.
@NickL0VIN
@NickL0VIN 3 жыл бұрын
@@saifaldin_ in terms of optics I would agree the Sony lens is better. My main reason for the a7C + sigma 28-70 is for the low light and bokeh.
@falcongunner33
@falcongunner33 3 жыл бұрын
This camera seems purposely handicapped to me so as not to cannibalize the main line. A bummer but understandable. It’ll hurt sales though.
@KrunoslavStifter
@KrunoslavStifter 3 жыл бұрын
Probably not. Sony simply makes a ton of camera models for virtually every single need and or budget so people are free to choose. Sometimes they don't offer all the features because of target audiences, saving on production costs etc.
@falcongunner33
@falcongunner33 3 жыл бұрын
@@KrunoslavStifter You just said exactly what I did. The camera is handicapped to appeal to an audience that doesn’t need all the features of the big boys, but also won’t sway a buyer of the main line away to the A7C. Thus hurting the potential sales of the A7C.
@KrunoslavStifter
@KrunoslavStifter 3 жыл бұрын
@@falcongunner33 I did not say that. You claim it's handicapped on purpuse and I claim it is not a handicap but a niche product. It's not the same thing. You imply Sony had a miletious intent and I implied they are serving a niche market.
@falcongunner33
@falcongunner33 3 жыл бұрын
@@KrunoslavStifter so if you’re saying that I am implying something, then I didn’t actually say it. If Sony had “malicious intent” for anything they would not be in business. So what market is the niche for the A7C? It is objectively handicapped by its old software, small grip, lack of programmable buttons, and limits on video recording. Those are limits that affect both the photo and video based users. As mentioned in the video, at its price there are more attractive options than the A7C within Sony’s own lineup that don’t have limitations one way or another. It doesn’t even have a unique pro level function like the A7S and it’s super low light functionality or the A7R’s high megapixel count and even the A99’s insane shutter speed. Those are the real niche products. This is supposed to be good at everything for the everyday user but has limitations from Sony and is overpriced. It’s more of a head scratcher than anything else.
@twentyfifthjt7888
@twentyfifthjt7888 3 жыл бұрын
Let's put it like this: Smaller Grip -> Intentional. The niche that ever asked for a small gripped FF camera or complemented the A6000-A6400 grip has never existed. There is no reason for the grip to be shorter than the mounted kit lens as long as it fits an average adult human hand. They just want to inconvenience you to a pricier body as you flash that full frame grin while crying internally. Active Stabilization - Intentional. It is a software buff, they could add/remove this for shits & giggles. They could argue that the processor couldn't handle it... but some form of 1080p footage could have handled the compromise. Then again it would give this a clear advantage against the A7iii. New Menu - Stupid intentional. Doesn't even take processing power. Doesn't even provide a real advantage in terms of results. It could have been a feel good thing... which keeps 1st time users in the system/brand. Now its just a feel bad thing that leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Single SD - Possibly intentional, I mean I don't know if it could fit. If it could've then it would be a shame. This is the only acceptable one, and would be enough, if the goal was to separate the A7C from the "Pro" A7 bodies. (I'm not sure if the 1/4000 shutter speed is an acceptable distinction, if it would require a more robust/bulkier shutter mechanism then it would be understandable.. but I don't know) At this point, I would prefer an A6600 type body + APSC sensor with the above features as a 2nd camera than the A7C (currently running an A7iii + A6400). Sometimes I wonder if they'll ever make BSI APSC sensors.
@MaxAndHisBike
@MaxAndHisBike 3 жыл бұрын
I think size is an underrated advantage, as the saying goes, the best camera is the one you have with you
@mirrorlessny
@mirrorlessny 3 жыл бұрын
agreed, waiting for a7Cii, should have 4k60/active ibis/10bit & touch menus
@tomcurno
@tomcurno Жыл бұрын
I feel like its important to mention that mechanical shutter speed is 1/4000s, however using the electronic shutter (silent mode) brings you up to 1/8000s which has very little effect on the final image.
@jeffthisted
@jeffthisted 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. What mic are you using in this video I don't see it in your list of gear
@dannyli9424
@dannyli9424 3 жыл бұрын
Number 1 thing I hate about a7C is the size and number 2 is the articulate screen,number 3 is the small handgrip. Number 1 thing I like about the camera is it actually makes the a7R IV feels like a comfortable camera to shoot with.
@badwolf489
@badwolf489 3 жыл бұрын
After I heard of that there is no full mechanical shutter option, I decided to wait until a7iv is released
@allenschneider1847
@allenschneider1847 3 жыл бұрын
What lense are you using for this video? Is this the kit lense?
@victorduranfilms7038
@victorduranfilms7038 3 жыл бұрын
That shallow grip sealed its fate for me. I shall wait for the A7IV, I think it will be worth the wait.
@xXMOoOHDXx
@xXMOoOHDXx 3 жыл бұрын
i love the video . from where did you get the strap because i want to buy one :D
@Omikoshi78
@Omikoshi78 3 жыл бұрын
I want to learn proper photography someday but does A7C have a menu for dummies (while I learn)? A menu that lets me select pre-sets based on scenarios (e.g.portrait, night photography, fireworks, food, etc)?
@sambrenton
@sambrenton 3 жыл бұрын
My issue with this camera is whilst it does look lovely and compact with that kit lens, there aren't that many compact full frame lenses, so by the time you've stuck a decent lens on it, it's really not that smaller overall than a regular a7
@ArthurR
@ArthurR 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right. And it's not comfortable to hold.
@Cfyzium
@Cfyzium 3 жыл бұрын
Actually there are quite a few: Samyang small lenses series (35mm f/2.8 'tiny but mighty' being the iconic one), Sigma I-series of more premium lenses, new Viltrox lenses, Tamron lenses are relatively small, a couple of Sony's own e. g. 35mm f/1.8, 20mm f/1.8, 24mm f/1.4, etc. FF will have more decent options for the small setup than APS-C soon if not already.
@MehmetKozal
@MehmetKozal 3 жыл бұрын
Props for nailing the exposure under that harsh sunlight.
@3ull
@3ull 2 жыл бұрын
Just right into it. Thats awesome.
@ismatec
@ismatec 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Arthur! Very useful comparison with the a6600. If you wouldn't have the a7iii nor the a7c, which one would you honestly buy if they were both the same price as new? Thanks in advance and I wish you, your wife and kid tons of good health
@ArthurR
@ArthurR 3 жыл бұрын
Tough choice. If I was replacing my A6600 (for video), I'd say the A7C.
@ismatec
@ismatec 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArthurR thanks for the quick reply !
@CavenInToTheWorld
@CavenInToTheWorld 3 жыл бұрын
Hi i wanted also to get some answers. I also watched your comparison on a6600 vs a7c. But i still cant decide. In the place i am now the local rate for a6600 + 18-135mm is 4,799-4999 and a7c + 28-60mm 6,999. I know they both have rolling shutter problem. I like the flip up screen more the flipout but it's not an issue if the flipout will give me more options. Now is it reasonable to get a7c for added 2000 vs a6600? Ill use it mainly for vlogs before a7c i really dream of getting a6600 but now that i have more choices its harder to choose. I came from canon sl3 which by the way also a flip out screen and a good auto focus in 1080p. But i really like to have sony camera so i sold it and wanted to upgrade for better video quality.
@ismatec
@ismatec 3 жыл бұрын
@@CavenInToTheWorld Hi Caven! I had exactly the same doubts as you. I’ve just got the a7c and I did a tutorial in Spanish at kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4S1gotmq9elj6c However, if you are planning on use it mostly for blogging, the best choice would be the Sony a6600 as it uses the same high capacity battery, better grip, flip up screen as you are used to, same eye autofocus tracking, no record limit and best of all, far cheaper than the a7c. I would confirm that the main difference between both is that the a6600 is an APS-C and the a7c a full frame sensor. Take care and I wish you a nice day. Isma TEC
@CavenInToTheWorld
@CavenInToTheWorld 3 жыл бұрын
@@ismatec thanks for that one. But is it stable enough to not irritate the viewers? Because unlike a7c it doesn't have the gyro that can be later on used to stabilized the video. Before these two im looking at canon m6 ii vs a6600 but when i saw potato jet comparisons that a6600 wins in video quality vs m6 ii but m6 wins in stabilization. Why didn't sony put it on a6600 even just the active steady shot even give just another crop ill just use a wide angle lens to compensate rather than give the OSS and IBIS but only works on photos. I owned sony fdr x3000 and the optical stabilization with that is way better and until now i can say it still hold up to newer competitions. Why didn't sony apply the same Optical Stabilization on A6600. Is it because it will worsen the rolling shutter problem? I just don't get it. I personally like optical stabilization for low light than digital stabilization.
@TaylorTeets
@TaylorTeets 3 жыл бұрын
The shutter sound is awesome. I really like it!
@gracesmith5021
@gracesmith5021 2 жыл бұрын
The number one reason to buy this camera is the catalyst browse stabilisation. Its almost gimbal quality and with the latest updates, you can just use any lens with it and get great videos!
@RyanOnTheLoose
@RyanOnTheLoose 3 жыл бұрын
Ive been vlogging with a GoPro and got the A7c to up my game. with the smallrig cage it makes it a lot easier to hold. I came down to two options the A7sIII and a cheap lens or a good lens and the A7c and I am happy with my choice.
@mirrorlessny
@mirrorlessny 3 жыл бұрын
doesn't the cage add significant weight to the package? are you using a handle or grip to hold the camera? I'm using the Sony tripod/remote handle with A7s3 (no cages)
@RyanOnTheLoose
@RyanOnTheLoose 3 жыл бұрын
@@mirrorlessny the cage is only 140g and I am using the joby 5k but I ordered a new head so I can use the arca swiss plate of the cage. I have a top handle that I take off when vlogging but use to get low shot and it’s super easy to put on and take off. Also I use the sennheiser mke 200
@mirrorlessny
@mirrorlessny 3 жыл бұрын
@@RyanOnTheLoose yea cage makes sense if you use various accessories + body protection, I'm trying to minimize weight A7S3 is a bit heavy, waiting on W2BT lav mic it's 90grams less on camera weight compared to picogear I'm using now :( ,,already found a light 60grams Artcise cb19 ball head
@ajorgemiranda
@ajorgemiranda 3 жыл бұрын
If you had to choose between the A7III and the A7C witch would you choose? Want to upgrade from my a6500
@thegrayyernaut
@thegrayyernaut 3 жыл бұрын
A7III for me. Because many Sony full-frame lenses are huge anyway, having a more comfortable body to hold is a plus. And it's not like the A7III can't be small. I can just slap on one of those new Sigma DN lenses and it's as compact as I need it to be. A7III also scales better the more you want to improve your photography, since it has more custom buttons and functions.
@ajorgemiranda
@ajorgemiranda 3 жыл бұрын
@@thegrayyernaut Thanks, but im using 90% of the time for video. just wish the body from the A7C was the same of the A7III
@electrichimp
@electrichimp 3 жыл бұрын
As an a6500 user, I went with the a7c and could ‘t be happier. There are awesome lens option to keep the camera small too.
@ajorgemiranda
@ajorgemiranda 3 жыл бұрын
@@electrichimp Thanks for the feedback
@networm64
@networm64 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajorgemiranda 90% for video? No need to hesitate just go with this even if it's for that better focus transition only!
@jimou9657
@jimou9657 3 жыл бұрын
Bigger sensor did need more support unit, single SD card slot did make a bit sense. The another is the shutter, compare to A7iii A7C only support electronic front curtain shutter. I totally agree they can just stolen EVF and grip from A6600, and just holding it for Mark II.
@skfineshriber
@skfineshriber 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. I worried a bit about you walking backward toward all those cacti.
@3rdpedalvideos894
@3rdpedalvideos894 3 жыл бұрын
You had me at the LS drifting in the snow
@jerryeisner1
@jerryeisner1 2 жыл бұрын
Arthur what is your opinion of the A9?
@TheChadWork2001
@TheChadWork2001 Жыл бұрын
It's a great looking camera, especially with that small lens.
@jzs5285
@jzs5285 Жыл бұрын
how does it compare now with the A7C II and A7CR? and then A6600 and A6700?
@KlipsenTube
@KlipsenTube 3 жыл бұрын
The grip is shallower, because the body is deeper. Maybe the designers wanted the body without a lens to be as compact as possible. Maybe they should have prioritised ergonomics instead.
@Pharesm
@Pharesm 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really well thought out video! Subbed! I'm used to the EVF on the RX100mV... Do you think I'll be ok with this one? As for $1400 for the A7C, I think that would only happen when A6600 is all sold out, discontinued and Sony made an A6800 in the size of the RX100 series ;-) The lack of 4K 60FPS on the A7C is really what kept me from getting one...
@danielmiddleman8613
@danielmiddleman8613 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Arthur. Trying weigh the pros and cons of these different Sony models. Right now I am leaning toward the A7R III. I could get a used one without a lens for close to what the A7C costs The biggest question I have right now is when is Sony going to finally release a new sensor and deal with the rolling shutter problem.
@mirrorlessny
@mirrorlessny 3 жыл бұрын
they already did with a7s3 a1 the question is when will that trickle down to more affordable models - lets hope for a7iv 🙏
@KDrixx
@KDrixx 2 жыл бұрын
im curious about which camera this video is recorded on
@douggottlieb
@douggottlieb 3 жыл бұрын
1 card. No weather sealing. No front dial. Old menus. Old sensor. Small evf. I’ve wanted this form factor for ages. But will keep my A73.
@Querenciatv
@Querenciatv 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing Work 👍
@stephenwabaxter
@stephenwabaxter 3 жыл бұрын
Great review.
@ramspencer5492
@ramspencer5492 3 жыл бұрын
I would bet that in a couple years the the A7C mark 2 is going to fix most of the possibly deal breaking issues with this line. The A7iv is likely to be the one to go for for a while when it's released.
@mirrorlessny
@mirrorlessny 3 жыл бұрын
I hope it's announced by next summer (2022) with active ibis like in a7S3/FX3/A1 , 4k60, 10bit & new menu system, would be amazing for vlogging/gimbal & travel
@ramspencer5492
@ramspencer5492 3 жыл бұрын
@@mirrorlessny that would be cool. It's a great form factor and seems like a no brainer, but not nerfed this badly!
@babetravelling
@babetravelling 3 жыл бұрын
Just got mine last weekend. Don’t know if I will like it…
@Thechosen77
@Thechosen77 3 ай бұрын
did you?
@babetravelling
@babetravelling 3 ай бұрын
@@Thechosen77 yes, it was a great upgrade 🥰 slow for videos but amazing on photos. High quality especially from my lens
@kaw7513
@kaw7513 3 жыл бұрын
Upgraded from a 7 yrs old Canon 6D to A7C sigma 24-70 2.8... it’s a big difference...lol. The auto focusing system is just night n day. I am still missing the old DSLR, mechanical movement on my old camera.
@gregsouza5748
@gregsouza5748 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, I was close to buying this camera but with a 3 year old sensor, not having 2 sd slots, not having 3rd scroll wheel and custom buttons. I have to pass on this one.
@firdauszainudin7118
@firdauszainudin7118 Жыл бұрын
Hi, would you mind comparing A7C and ZV-E1. Thank in advance
@campa_t
@campa_t 3 жыл бұрын
honestly i was looking forwards to seeing the opposite: apsc sensor in a pro body but still this camera is fire
@tonnluan116
@tonnluan116 3 жыл бұрын
Fuji will satisfy ur need.
@campa_t
@campa_t 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonnluan116 fuji is the best right now, but it’s not for me: crappy grip and no headphone jack most importantly i already have sony e mount apsc lenses and don’t want to switch
@danielmiddleman8613
@danielmiddleman8613 3 жыл бұрын
I am thinking that Sony is finished with APS-C. I was looking forward to a new APS-C model myself but it looks like full frame is the best choice now.
@campa_t
@campa_t 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielmiddleman8613 i really hope they’ll continue making apsc cameras
@nguyenleucduong3446
@nguyenleucduong3446 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonnluan116 Yo you speak my thought
@stupossum9805
@stupossum9805 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honest opinion.
@networm64
@networm64 3 жыл бұрын
Once again you just proved yourself to me as an honest consumer reviewer, not showing too much love to this camera as we all expected more from Sony to do with that lovely old a7iii sensor even putting it in a compact body still we can see obvious crippled hammer trace here which is at the level of Canon for the first time! It's not a bad camera,its great if only had a reasonable price,for this price point it could have more features and specs indeed! Almost all pros vs a7iii are in the firmware only
@procamara359
@procamara359 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. What PC do you recomend to edit this files?
@mirrorlessny
@mirrorlessny 3 жыл бұрын
nvme as main drive, at least 8core cpu & 32gb ram, check pugetsystems site for cpu performance charts, I personally look for live playback comparison charts as that's the most important performance indicator.
@p4ul.f708
@p4ul.f708 3 жыл бұрын
hey Arthur, since you are the most important review channel for me, I just wantedd to ask if you maybe could do a video on the Pergear 10mm f8. Because it does look like a fun lens. I've seen some reviews already but none of them showed really image quality :/
@Markyroson
@Markyroson 3 жыл бұрын
What about the colours vs, say, the a6600?
@bertomorfin3651
@bertomorfin3651 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one. 📷c
@saketkumar5984
@saketkumar5984 3 жыл бұрын
Making video comparison of tamron 17-70 mm & sigma trio
@Closhen
@Closhen 3 жыл бұрын
Was this an A7C review or 20 gimbal shot ideas
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