A discourse on the issue of Fadak and the Prophetic inheritance | Shaykh Ninowy

The Issue between Al-Sayyida Fatima (RA) & Abu Bakr (RA) on Fadak & related issues
A reply to the confusion that Hz. Fatima (RA) was in error and Hz. Abu Bakr (RA) prevented her from committing a sin. A discourse on the issue of Fadak and the Prophetic inheritance
By Shaykh Dr. Muhammad bin Yahya Al Ninowy
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[@pakboy786]

So excited to listen to this!!! JazakAllah Khairun for having the courage to discuss such a topic. This is much needed, especially for the lovers of ahle Muhammad.

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JazakAllah Shaykh Barak Allah for Clarification

[@ALI-om2re]

Just starting to listen. I have faith that Sheikh will not let down Ahle-Bayt (as). I’ll come back and comment after I finish listening.

[@ALI-om2re]

Yes I finished all four parts. AlHamdulillah I’m happy for the Shaykh. He’s a man who has tasted the sweetness that comes from the Holy Household (as), he’s a man of knowledge . As a person who excepts Shia Jafari aqida I don’t agree with everything the Shaykh believes but on the matter of Fadak I’m agreeable with almost everything he presented, it was logical and sound. However I believe Abu Bakr fabricated the tradition because he had not gotten bait from Ahlul-Bayt (as) and wanted to cripple them financially. Bottom line is that Fadak was taken, Khums was not given to Ahlul-Bayt (as) while the wives were able to ‘inherit’ after the amendment to the tradition from Abu Huraira, Shaykh doesn’t want that to be an option in his thought process and fears Allah with regards to the companions which I understand and is a reasonable, safe and could be considered wise. For me it’s wise to cling to Quran and Ahlul-Bayt (as) only and consider this to be reasonable and safe but I want conviction also, and this path (Quran and Ahlul-Bayt) gives me conviction. Any how we as a Ummah should be able to reflect and give our views and move forward with respect to one another and try to create our own history with how we deal with our current affairs.

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​@@ALI-om2re With all due respect brother, why assume Ahl al-Sunnah do not follow Ahl al-Bayt? If you compare the Sunni foundational hadith corpus with its Twelver Shia counterpart, the Sunni books contain a greater amount of narrations from EACH OF RasulAllah (ﷺ) , Sayyidah Fatimah al-Zahra (عليها السلام), Imam Ali (عليه السلام), Imam Hassan (عليه السلام), and Imam Husayn (عليه السلام) in comparison to the Twelver Shia books. The Sunni books also include MANY narrations from Imam Zayn-ul-Abidin (عليه السلام), Imam Muhammad al-Baqir (عليه السلام), and Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq (عليه السلام). In fact, there are more narrations in our foundational sources from Imam Muhammad al-Baqir (عليه السلام) than there are from Abu Bakr al-Siddiq (رضي الله عنه)! Sunni hadith sources in general include over TWO HUNDRED NARRATORS from Ahl al-Bayt, from both the men and the women descendants of Imam Ali (عليه السلام) and Sayyidah Fatimah al-Zahra (عليها السلام)! Additionally, Abdullah ibn Abbas (رضي الله عنه), the cousin of RasulAllah (ﷺ) and a student of both RasulAllah (ﷺ) and Imam Ali (عليه السلام), who we also include as part of the extended Ahl al-Bayt, is one of the most prolific narrators in the Sunni hadith corpus. We also include the noble and pure wives of RasulAllah (ﷺ), the Mothers of the Believers (رضي الله عنهم), as part of the extended Ahl al-Bayt and narrate from them as well. Alhamdulillah we love Ahl al-Bayt and follow them proudly.

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@@suleymanalishah I never said Ahle-Sunnah don’t love Ahle-Bayt (as). However we see in history that the companions and a wife of the Holy Prophet (s) became opponents of Ahlul-Bayt (as) and this was foretold by the Holy Prophet (s). Yet there is a double standard when it comes to Imam Ali (as) compared to the first two caliphs. Anybody who became opponents of the first two caliphs are murtad even thou they might have been pious companions. When some companions become opponents of Imam Ali (as) they are deemed mistaken and pray for their forgiveness and deen is taken from them. The Holy Prophet (s) was crystal clear about the status of Ahlul-Bayt (as) and their rights over the community. How can Mauwiya be respected after his continuous animosity to Imam Ali (as), how? I’ll start with Mauwiya because he is the low hanging fruit. We can get into the caliphs and wife also. Our history is messy but I feel the Prophet (s) gave us guidance around the mess, Ahlul-Sunnah took some of the guidance but made their own narrative.

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​@@ALI-om2re According to Twelver Shi'ism, Imamah/Wilayah is a Rukn from among their five Arkan al-Islam and an Asl from among their five Usul al-Din. Your perspectives on history are meaningless if you cannot prove this belief from the Quran, because this is the core difference between Sunni Islam and Twelver Shi'ism. Everything else is secondary at best and therefore your points, although easily refutable, are not worth addressing, to be straightforward with you.

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@@suleymanalishah The Ahle-Sunnah argument about believing in leadership after the Propeht(s). You want Shia to prove what you already believe. This is a point that will never be digested by any academic or judge. If there is no leadership after the Prophet (s) then why is Abu Bakr killing people for not paying him Zakat, who is he? Brother get to the core of the issue and leave the satanic arguments of a why work around. We have the verses, Making Ahle-Abrahim Imams, the verse of Wilaya, the Verse of Ulil-Amr, the Hadith of Ghadeer and Thaqlyn, Hadith of Haroon (as) and on and on. If you don’t want to discuss because it’s so easy to disprove this is simple arrogance of majority position. You have no source to prove Abu Bakr sat in the seat of the Kaliphat, none zero and this is why Imam Ali (as) was upset, this is why Umar attacked or at the very least threatened to attack Imam Ali house, this is why Fadak was usurped and this is why Aisha went to war with Imam Ali (as). Keep dreaming and asking to prove a position that is already held by you. SubnAllah.