A Disney Villains Retrospective, Part 26: Duke Igthorn (and Other TV Villains)

[@ColinLooksBack]

5:16 Before any English majors correct me, I'll do it myself. I described this as a "My Fair Lady" pastiche, but calling it a "Pygmalion" pastiche would be more accurate.

[@maciekur]

Two things you missed: Lady Bane made a cameo in credits of "Chip and Dale" movie year ago. Also, there was a leaked animatic for the orginal Gummi bears pilot on youtubue years ago that is line for line the same... exept Toudy was a human in it and is Igtorns short taylor

[@TravisWillden-b2m]

@@maciekur excuse me I hate to bother you but I said happy holidays to Colin LooksBack my friend not you and btw Colin LooksBack is my friend you know

[@maciekur]

@@TravisWillden-b2m I don't think I understand you

[@mupty]

Will you be doing more "Many Christmas Carols" this month?

[@TooneyBird2468]

Could you make a script to screen episode for Chicken Run? Since the sequel is coming later this month.

[@Tadicuslegion78]

Michael Eisner: My kids like gummy bears, make a show. That one writer: My time has come

[@yourpalal4596]

Michael & Patricia Silversher: (nodding eagerly)

[@alexandersturnn4530]

I always liked that Igthorn actually became MORE competent and threatening as the show went on, rather then the opposite as was the Norm in animated shows back then.

[@beastwarsFTW]

Ironically the ogres became less of a threat, basically it seemed like Igthorn tricked the orgres at first but now they actually need him to lead them.

[@IgoSplashman]

Igthorn might be a bumbling egomaniac, but he can also be a serious physical threat. He almost tore Gruffy's robot knight armor to shreds with his sword.

[@cataquackwarlord5389]

I kind of wonder if Lady Bane's castle actually used to belong to the Gummi Bears. Assuming she was around when most of them were chased out, she may have seized the castle in the process, and that's where she obtained her magical powers and items.

[@SpedeVesku]

Igthorn and Toadie are basically middle age fantasy version of Mr. Burns and Smithers

[@Dimensioneer88]

I see more of Captain Hook and Smee in them.

[@battybuddy]

Nah, Smithers doesn’t get thrown to the hounds for saying the right thing at the wrong time.

[@SpedeVesku]

@@Dimensioneer88 I see what you mean and agree that probably being the inspiration for the show's writing team, but you gotta admit that where's Smee seems to merely admire Hook, there's some real subtext (whenever intentional or not) with the amount of love and admiration Toadie shows to Igthorn.

[@icysnow9459]

I know Disney television animation shows have been covered before, but this is the first episode covering original tv villains so it should be said here. It’s really funny how this department of Disney with less of a budget that started off selling toys would go on to create villains that were arguably just as iconic as the theatrical villains. And later on, would become the only place in Disney for good villains during the 2010’s.

[@hellboundchaoscommand7567]

I THINK I KNOW A GUY! - Best of all Disney villains

[@arcadeclawqueen90]

Yeah like the tangled the series villains

[@MrKaiju-sr8wu]

Mother Gothel, King Candy and Tamatoa are exceptions to that

[@austinreed7343]

@@MrKaiju-sr8wu Plus a good chunk of the MCU villains (not all of them) and a handful of Star Wars ones.

[@MrKaiju-sr8wu]

@@austinreed7343 I don't count those as *Disney* villains personally, just villains from IPs which Disney happens to own. It's only their original animated stuff I'm talking about, since that's what Collin is gonna be talking about in these videos.

[@jaggerguth4391]

For the One-off Villains in Gumni-Bears, There were a trio of villainous French chefs who Creates Counterfeit Coins out of Chocolate as part of a Plot to Swindle Dunyem on Tax Day. Another was "The Sinister Sculptor", a Talentless artist who stole Magic Powder Capable of turning Anything into Stone and Sells them as Art.

[@MisterWin]

I always cite the episode where Gruffy meets Gusto after being shipwrecked on that volcanic island as one of my favorite television episodes.

[@maurycyoseka1057]

My favorite out of all of them is the giant spider that was going to eat all the six Gummi Bears after being accidentally released.

[@Dimensioneer88]

Duke Igthorn is basically a Medieval Captain Hook. I also heard someone call him Human Skeletor.

[@willisjackson7029]

Funny, my friend and I were just making that as a little joke a few hours ago just before I watched this video. Before Skeletor was Skeletor he was Keldor, but before he was Keldor he was Duke Igthorn.😅

[@hordakprime6172]

I was thinking about how a good progression for him would be him becoming like Skeletor lol.

[@maurycyoseka1057]

Crocosaur Rex = Duke Igthorn = Captain Hook David Xanathos = Amos Slade Demona = Miss Finster = Lady Tremaine Dr. Drakken = Chuckles the Silly Piggy = Mad Madam Mim Gaspar = Skeleton King = Horned King Huntsman = Man Dark Dragon = Charnabog Dr. Doofenshmirtz = Bill Cipher = Hades The Sorcerer = Hannibal McFist = Cedric = Prisma = Vor = Lord Hater = Lord Dominator = Maleficent Hildie Gloom = Queen Grimhilda Rippen = Ludo = Prince John Toffee = Meteora = Shuriki = Ash Malvago = Vuli, Yolo, Hatz and Cahu = Chip Whistler = Bill Sykes King Andrius = King Aldrich = King Renard The Core/Darcy = Maestro Forte Emperor Philip = Horned King, Scar and Frollo Jinx = Molecule Man =

[@asharmstrong248]

It’s great to hear about the unsung villains from this company. Obviously Igthorn can’t quite live up to Bill Cipher, Belos, Flintheart Glomgold, or even Doofenshmirtz, but it’s important to learn about him, since he paved the way for them.

[@sarafontanini7051]

man the cartoons have been great for disney villains, unlike the movies thus far

[@christianali5431]

​@@sarafontanini7051maybe that's the answer. Just make TV shows from now on.😊

[@maurycyoseka1057]

I think that Disney Television Animation villains are going to be new Disney villains.

[@Santoryu90]

@@christianali5431I don’t think that’s the answer

[@LowellLucasJr.]

I just wanna thank the wonderful voices of Micheal Rye, who voices King Gregor, his nemesis Duke Igthorn and his heroic brother; but also June Forray! She not only voiced Grammie Gummi and others, she got ger old pal Bullwinkle, Bill Scott as Gruffi Gummi! He also voices Sir Tuxfurt, and the 1st Toadwart!❤😂

[@motxmod]

Bill Scott also voiced Moosel from The Wuzzles.

[@LowellLucasJr.]

​@@motxmodnot to.mention Flizzard was played by Brian Cummings...aka Hollywood in 2 Stupid Dogs( he's the "Isn't that cute? BUT ITS WRONG!!" guy) Doofus in Ducktales and Dr. Mindbender in GIJoe!❤ I've met him at plenty of cons and he's a really cool dude and a great friend

[@willisjackson7029]

@@LowellLucasJr. Don’t forget that Brian Cummings was also the voice of Bumble-Lion on the Wuzzles as well.

[@kylemorello4787]

Seeing as how Disney TV Animation's 40th birthday is this year, I've been picturing 2 AMVs to honor it: 1. Remember when Disney's Sing Along Songs did a series dedicated to the Disney princesses? I'm picturing a version of the music video If You Can Dream, except it's about the heroines from their TV shows, like Eliza Maza Luz Noceda, Kim Possible, Anne Boonchuy, Elena, etc. Rules would be that they have to be original heroines, so no Rapunzels, Ariels, or Lilos. 2. Remember the direct to video film Once Upon a Halloween? It's basically a clip show that pays tribute to Disney villains. It had five different montages. The first one was about their most iconic and scariest moments, the second one was about evil laughs, the third one was about iconic poses, the fourth about henchman (set to an original song by Pat Carroll), and the last one is, of course, about their defeats. I was thinking about a version of all of thenwith Disney's TV villains, like Bill Cipher, Draken, Doofenshmirtz, Xanatos, Belos, etc. Again, no villains from film based shows, unless they're original, like Hamsterviel or Mozenrath. Shere Khan in Talespin would be an exception, since he's a different version of the character. Anyway, this retrospective could be helpful in finding what villains to use.

[@maurycyoseka1057]

Now that i think of it, Disney Channel should now be included in the Disney parks.

[@kylemorello4787]

@@maurycyoseka1057 YES! Well, they are in some respects. Paul Ruddish's Mickey Mouse show has a dark ride in Disney's Hollywood Studios. World Showcase has a scavenger hunt game that went from starting Kim Possible, to Perry the Platypus, to Scrooge McDuck. And there are a decent amount of meetable characters from television. But I too would prefer having more Disney show representation at the parks. There's so much missed potential. And it would be really fun to meet characters from Owl House, Star VS, Amphibia, Proud Family, Jake Long, Motor City, Wander Over Yonder, and Gravity Falls. And to bring back characters from Gargoyles, Talespin, Kim Possible, and Darkwing Duck.

[@maurycyoseka1057]

Disney Channel characters should be included in Sorcerer's Apprentice Arena, Disney Mirrorverse, make Disney Infinity 4.0 and add them, Disney Dreamlight Valley and Disney Speedstorm.

[@kylemorello4787]

@@maurycyoseka1057 Gargoyles, Chip and Dale, and DuckTales characters are included in Sorcerer's Arena. But, yes on everything else.

[@Man-A-T]

I definitely think Disney was cribbing some ideas from The Smurfs for Gummi Bears. Which might be why their primary antagonist is more of a physical villain and they kept their magical antagonist in the back pocket. I could easily see a criticism at the time for Lady Bane being "She's girl Gargamel" if she were the primary antagonist.

[@MisterWin]

💯 I love the Eastern European medieval forest settings for both these shows, so I couldn’t pick a favorite. Easily in my top ten childhood cartoons.

[@christianali5431]

So they didn't really Rip The Smurfs off, did they?

[@christianali5431]

The Smurfs don’t know there way around a Gummy Berry Chemlab like the Bears do.

[@zemox2534]

The relationship between Duke and Toadie reminds me of Captain Hook and Mr. Smee. Duke Igthorn may view Toadie as his only true friend, but he won't admit it.

[@falcoskywolf]

I catch not only strong influences of CareBears in Gummy Bears, but also the animated Ewoks series, which was a much more cutesy take on them than the Star Wars films and came out in that same timeframe.

[@pap64]

Even if "The Wuzzles" was rather run of the mill, I loved the heck out of it, and found it fascinating how everything is a mix of two things right down to the weather itself. It's pretty creative world building that to me made it stand out from everything else at the time (I mean I love the Care Bears, but their world is essentially heaven in a cloud world). Although I always mentioned that Croc is weird in that he too is a mix but still remained an alligator/crocodile in terms of look. Also am I the only one that thinks his VA tried to do a Pat Burtram/Sheriff of Nothinham imitation due to the twang in his voice? That always amused me

[@Borgdrohne13]

12:18 to compromise your concerns and a decent backstory, I have 2 Ideas, what could happend: 1. Igthorn was a young knight with an innocent look at chivalry and knighthood. He had a " Hero", someone, who he admired (perhaps the current king). But as the story goes on, he becomes disillusioned. That the job is more mundane and the hero stories are that: Only stories, nothing more. Perhaps with a king, who gives orders, that doesn't matched with his view of knighthood and chivalry. Of course Igthorn didn't saw the bigger picture and assumed things. He thought, he can do a better job and started a coup d'etat with the well known consequences. 2. Igthorn and his brother Victor are both enlisted as knights.Both of them are great at their jobs, but Victor get's all the glory. Igthorn did his fair share of chivalry too, but it was never acknowledged and sometimes he got scolded, why he wasn't like his brother. We also see, that Igthorn was overambitious and think, that he can more. Sigmund never wanted the attention and wanted only doing his job as a knight, but could never tell Igthorn about it. Igthorn developed an inferiority complex, because the people looked down on him and his brother is (in his eyes) better than him (of course it's not true). That's why he wanted to proof to everyone (including himself) that he is better, by overthrowing the current monarch. He failed and was exiled for his crimes. Victor quit the knighthood, because he thought, it was his fault, that Igthorn lashes out. That he could prevented it, if he only talked to Igthorn, but at this point it was too late. Both version shows, that Igthorn wasn't a misunderstood good guy, who turned evil, but someone with a relatable backstory, who made the wrong decisions. But what do you think? Could it work? Are the stories decent or don't you like them? If so, why and what would you change? I'm very interested on your opinion.

[@maddiekoester7785]

Now that you’ve covered the beginning of the Disney Afternoon, I just need a Disney Villains Retrospective on DuckTales and Darkwing!!

[@DarkAngel459]

I was happy to see Colin compare 'The Gummi Bears' Toadwort to Creeper from 'The Black Cauldron,' as I made that comparison in the comment section of that film's video. Colin may have already made that connection himself, but it's nice to hear that I'm not alone.

[@Grim2]

28:50 - His model is very much aged up version of the boy from "Reluctant Dragon".

[@DarkAngel459]

I remember 'The Gummi Bears' very fondly, and it has one of the best theme tunes of any cartoon show.

[@futuregadgetlabmember5320]

Watching Igthorn and Toadie always brings to mind Hook and Smee since they both have a similar dynamic.

[@sammyt7981]

2:15 Crock, Flizzard, and Brat 8:53 Duke Igthorn 12:56 Toadwart/Toadie 16:36 The Ogres 19:10 Lady Bane 21:41 Jackal Guards 22:54 The Trolls 25:24 The Carpies 32:05 JJ Wagstaff

[@noireisbest6786]

I loved Gummi Bears a lot, I didn't care as much about The Wuzzles. But my favorite movie is next, so I'm super excited!! Gargoyles will be a lot of fun to watch, holy crap. I recently watched all the canon episodes.

[@jackpearce367]

The dark origin story line is gold. Passive aggressive Colin is best Colin

[@taallen334]

If the Fluppy Dogs was greenlit it would have arguably been considered Disney's Sliders with talking pastel-colored dimension hopping puppies.

[@AnaxErik4ever]

It's great to get a glimpse into early Disney TV series, the concepts and the characters as a whole, not just the villains. With the recent additions of a pretty decent villain from Wish (direct ripoff of Ursula's "So much for true love." line not withstanding); the Stage in Playful Land event in Twisted Wonderland (showcasing Gideon and Foul Fellow "gajinkas" as our main baddies, and the first event to prominently reference the Disney parks); and the recent showcase of The Black Cauldron in another mobile game, there will have to be another catch up episode required for this series. That is saying nothing of Malleus Draconia, direct inheritor to Maleficent's legacy in Twisted Wonderland.

[@ciarangrainger2465]

So the Disney Afternoon began because the CEO really wanted a cartoon based on gummy sweets?

[@brookerickettson4950]

Oh man. The scene with the glowing crystal making a door....core memory unlocked! I think I saw this as a stand alone kids movie, never guessed it was intended to be a pilot, and the bipedal talking dogs, were like pound puppies. Like a inter dimensional pound puppy squad or their world was where all caroon talking dogs came from. It WAS pretty generic, but most programs for young kids were before they got old enough to really sell to ala other hasbro properties. You know, be kind to animals, don’t trust rich business moguls, etc.

[@bartholomewthewise346]

The villains of gargoyles alone I feel are a great video subject! Truly the definition of villains who balance the line of ethics and evil.

[@maurycyoseka1057]

I just can't wait for the Emperor Belos retrospective!

[@animation1300]

Next episode, we’re going to talk about The World’s Greatest Criminal Mind

[@marcusblackwell2372]

I thought Gummi Bears came after Great Mouse Detective

[@nicolasfisher4746]

@@marcusblackwell2372 ratigan

[@joshhumphrey736]

Can’t wait for the inevitable Gargoles episode. I mean, how many villains do you know who have a tv trope named after them?

[@nicholassims9837]

The Gambet one ?

[@RyanofAndor]

It was the Gummi Bears that ignited my love of the fantasy genre and also medevil history. And it was a breath of fresh air as everything else was modern, or leaned heavily into science fiction.

[@ryancarless7921]

Love the video, I like how the villains felt like previous villains like the Evil Queen and etc.

[@moonstoneuniverse8516]

For the first time I didn’t know a Disney villain in Lady Bane and I love it!!!

[@sesamefan4049]

I for one praise the Wuzzles's creativity. It continues to inspire me to this day.

[@muppetsretrofan8873]

This was an amazing video, Colin! Although I'm a 2000s person, my mom introduced me to various 80s Disney movies and shows, which is why both The Black Cauldron and Adventures Of The Gummi Bears are special to me. Wuzzles looked like a cute show, but I'm sad it only lasted 13 episodes. My favorite Wuzzle is BumbleLion for being part lion, my favorite big cat [thanks to The Lion King and the MGM Lion]. Back to Gummi Bears, Cavin and Taran look so similar that I could easily imagine them actually being related. Taran being a lost relative of Cavin could make for good story material. Speaking of Cavin, I was always annoyed by episodes where he got in trouble for things he didn't do/things that weren't his fault [Crimson Avenger and Up, Up And Away are the two biggest examples], it frustrated me so much to the point where I wish that Gregor and Tuxford WERE allowed by the showrunners to learn about the Gummis. Speaking of the Gummi Bears themselves, Zummi's my favorite, but admitedly biased on my part as he's voiced by Paul Winchell, who voiced my favorite Winnie The Pooh character Tigger, and my favorite fast food mascot 70s era Jack [Jack In The Box]. Sadly, there's only three 1970s era animated Jack In The Box Commercials and three 70s JITB comics on KZbin, but I highly recommend checking them out, as Winchell did a wonderful job bringing the characters to life. I recommend starting out with the commercial simply titled Jack In The Box Animated Commercial 1970s and the first comic How A House Makes Noise.

[@SoulKingdomCreator]

Gummi Bears was a great show. I didn’t grow up in the era it was on air, but I watched it when I discovered it in college. I can’t wait for one of my favorite movies to be covered.

[@taiasoncole8148]

This show really is underrated and deserves to be on the list of the Disney Afternoon's best. It is just so charming and has quite a bit of lore and continuity which was not common at the time or even decades after.

[@Sandlot1992]

I can't wait to see you talk about Ratigan next!

[@TylerRakstis]

First time we get on TV show originals. And it'll be the start of the Disney Rennisance by next year.

[@mikeburnette2190]

Great Video, and happy holidays. I got to watch both the Wuzzles and Gummi Bears, and they were incredible. My main issue is how Igthorn was so compitent, but so comedic at the same time. Lady Bane is really what I like in a villain, since the main job of the villain is to constantly challenge the heroes, and I'm not saying Igthorn did that, but there was too much hilarity with him. R I. P To Bill Scott, Roger Carmel, and any other actor that passed away dfrom these shows.

[@nicoflores9728]

Lady bane and igthors relationship remind of lord hater and lord dominanter. Never seen the gummi bear show but it seems like a direct influence to the dynamic

[@nicholassims9837]

Yeah an incompetent male and a more competent female

[@LowellLucasJr.]

Wuzzles deserve some serious love. Glad they got their coverage here!❤ Thank you so much!

[@jonathanmartin9845]

If they rebooted Wuzzles, Gummi Bears, and Fluppy Dogs together as a single show, how much do you want to bet the series would end up a mishmash between Amphibia, Owl House, She-ra, and the 2017 Ducktales series?

[@d-manthecaptain1382]

I guess that would be what would happen if they decided to do that

[@Glasshouse828]

Personally I’d prefer a Ducktales 2017 style remake of the new adventures of Winnie the Pooh also your idea definitely has promise

[@NicklasNN]

I’m looking forward to the Great Mouse Detection, Mr. LooksBack! Your videos are awesome!

[@maxordman4100]

This is a true treat to see you dive into the history of some of the earliest tv villains from Disney! Gummy bears was an amazing show and I truly enjoyed listening to this fantastic retrospective! Fluppy dogs also sounds quite interesting. Too bad it wasn’t picked up for television. It’s nice to be following your channel again. I was badly sick for a long time and I had to take a break from KZbin but now I’m back. Excellent job! I can’t wait to see more of your videos! I know that you will no doubt be covering the little mermaid very soon and it shall be one of your most amazing videos ever! I also am super excited to see you get to the Aladdin villains! Keep up the great work!

[@m.c.s1306]

3:52 he would fit right in at Disney

[@Rae0814]

I feel like the Carpies’ episodes being so similar is because they had plans to do more with them, but couldn’t figure out how to use them without the Sunni plot point

[@saintfighteraqua]

While I did love Wuzzles as a kid (I even had a Bumble Lion figure), it was very much what you see is what you get. Gummi Bears, however, I was obsessed with them and I still feel like it's 100% watchable even today. The lore is fun and leaves me wanting more and unlike shows like Care Bears (which I also loved) it doesn't feel like it was written just for kids...it's like a Disney movie, it has something for both kids and adults. I'd love a reboot that kept the spirit of the original, or even a continuation with the same art style. Igthorn was one of my favorite villains back in the day.

[@TMan5636]

I can't be the only one who thinks Crock when he's wearing the crown looks like a Disneyfied King K.Rool.

[@Nonjola]

Nah, I was thinking the same. If DiC had made a DKC cartoon, KKR would most likely look like this.

[@tracyndiyob162]

definitely thought that too alongside igthorn being a medieval captain hook(also skeletor when he was alive thanks to the nostalgia critic.:3) that i'd kinda love to see him team up with crock if we got another disney afternoon reboot.

[@maurycyoseka1057]

Krusha: "You've missed me?" K. Rool: "Yes, you've heard me right, I've missed you." Krusha gives his highness a smooch. K. Rool: "Yuck!"

[@timothylyons1529]

can't wait for more retrospective you give all villains from both animated movies, special, shorts, and tv shows all equal piece of the cake please don't stop doing this

[@WarioWareFan01010]

You HAVE to do Disney Jr. Villains retrospective as a spin-off.

[@sarahsims6164]

Sofia the first would be a good candidate.

[@timothylyons1529]

They covered after all jack and Neverland pirates Mickey Mouse clubhouse and roaster racers were covered

[@Glasshouse828]

Who knows, he might include villains from original Disney Jr shows in this very retrospective, i would appreciate it if he were to mention the Snooties from PB&J Otter at least as bonus villains since Eduard is possibly my favorite antagonistic Disney character next to Mr. Onus from Treasure Planet (yeah I have weird tastes in characters) & that’s one of the Disney Jr/Playhouse Disney shows he’s most likely to have grown up with considering how old it is but I doubt he considers them villains so I’m not holding my breathe

[@frogglen6350]

Been subbed for a year. I like how you go into great detail about these somewhat forgotten animated characters

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

Gummi Bears is almost better than a show of its era should be and its too bad Disney has let it fade (although its not like they really care too much about their tv shows in general). That theme song is amazing too.

[@zemox2534]

The cartoons of the Disney Afternoon deserves more respect and recognition

[@slaughterhater]

I 💯% agree the Disney Afternoon characters need more respect and recognition!

[@MisterWin]

They incorporated a sliver of the Gummi Bears lore into the somewhat recent DuckTales reboot. I think because although it had a solid start that it was eventually cancelled is why you didn’t see more. I believe there was talk of a DarkwingDuck spinoff/reboot from that DT that was scrapped.

[@OGPUEE]

Actually in Poland Gummi Bears are hugely popular to this day and practically everyone knows this show and the characters. Even one KZbinr focusing on Polish voice actors devoted a special episode to the actors playing Ightorn and Toadie - kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6DamXmai9dnjdE And many years as a Polish, I was a bit surprised that in US apparently Gummi Bears are largely forgotten, while in Poland there were countless reruns. Especially since other Disney Afternoons are still remembered.

[@maurycyoseka1057]

​@@OGPUEE Curiosity, I didn't remembered Gummi Bears a bit until I watched it at my grandma's.

[@TheHoboAuthor]

The wuzzles and the gummi bears both have great theme songs

[@Zach-bo8bz]

A Dudley do-right reference? I love it! The Dudley Do-right who’s actually competent and the Snidely Whiplash is just misunderstood. It’s a perfect way to bring back one of the classics from Jay Warden’s era.

[@maurycyoseka1057]

With the Disney Televisions Animation series, you could say that it all started with a crocodile.

[@Glasshouse828]

Villain-wise anyway

[@JNT737]

Blazing Dragons ran on toon disney and had a few good villains XD. I love your videos and retrospective on disney villains

[@dandrelamay8273]

As usual, its always nice seeing the lesser known villains get the same amount of detailed analysis as the big stars. Looking forward to seeing more tv series covered soon. And I can tell Ratigan's video is gonna be a good one. Ps: its been a while since you've talked about Muppets (the thing that introduced me to your content), but I'm curious: out of the three designs for classic Elmo's World, which is your favourite? While I've grown up with all three of them, I always liked the second one the best, due to the toon aesthetic fitting in with what the series wanted to be. The first design, looking back, feels empty and eerie, which is the last thing you'd wanna associate with a character like Elmo. And the thid, more cgi design, while slightly fast paces, is more dull than what came before.

[@BenNelson-zl6lj]

32:47-32:54 Indeed "never mind the green fur." It’s possible the public would think the dog's green fur is dyed rather than supernaturally green.

[@zombieguy4444]

Crock gives me serious King Koopa vibes

[@maurycyoseka1057]

Big Mouth: "Ya know, dad? I'm so hungry that could even go to work." King Koopa: "Wait a minute. Work?! Where did learned that disgusting word? Did picked it up in the real world?"

[@Glasshouse828]

Rodney The Rotten Wolf from the Pooh Villains video kinda reminds reminds me of mammalian version of King Koopa for some reason I think it’s because he’s an affably evil costumed children’s variety show villain with a raspy baritone voice

[@timothylyons1529]

adventures of gummi bears is steamboat willie of disney tv cartoon shows one would say wuzzle run so adventures of gummi bears could walk

[@christianndlovu-lh7vu]

Okay, so I have a pretty obscure theory, that JJ Wagnerstaff, Might have married cruella, now hear me out there are a few keypoints we have to take in consideration. One, they both have the same type of car straight down to the color scheme. Two, they both have a vendetta against dogs, which could potentially lead them to work together at One point Three, they both love using animals for their own personal benefits, with Cruella loving to wear the Coats of animals and JJ loving to showcase them as personal trophies or pets They both are quite wealthy And own large companies and businesses They're both villains hands down, and if they were both sent to the Isle of the lost, JJ could potentially have hooked up with cruel light. One Carlos, which would also explain, why Carlos has lighter skin called my compared to his mom in descendants, Not to be racially offensive, but it's just an Observation. So yeah that's my fan theory please comment and tell me what you guys think

[@toonerman]

Nice Jon with this retrospective, as usual. And while I know we are still a few villains away from Urusla, can I help you out with some pieces of Little Mermaid media I found, for you to include in your Little Mermaid Retrospective?… PS: I first found out about your channel with your Script to Screen video of Casper. I agree with you on everything about that movie, and I am also a huge fan of Disney Villains, so this series has been very helpful with my knowledge on them!

[@Gigautism]

I loved this show as a kid. Had a few episodes on VHS that I watched often. Also managed to catch some reruns on TV as well

[@andylloyd415]

This video made an excellent surprise birthday gift. Thanks so much for cataloguing all these memorable bad guys, no matter how brief or minor, and take as much time as you need on your videos!

[@Rubberman202]

I kind of read up on some of these shows a bit before watching this, but only a little. The Wuzzles was more of a warm-up for The Adventures of the Gummi Bears, which was a huge gambit for Disney since the quality of the animation was much higher than its contemporaries, specifically Hanna-Barbera and Filmation, both of whom use very, shall we say, "economical" animation methods to make their shows. It's fortunate that Disney itself is a massive company that can handle licensing fees better than the other two. Either way, Gummi Bears wound up being a huge success, and led the way to other incredibly popular and fondly remembered shows. I don't recall watching Gummi Bears as much as a kid, though I definitely did watch it. There were some fun concepts, and overall, I think the premise and set-up is quite good, especially for a cartoon that came out of the 80's that was literally just Michael Eisner going "I like Gummi Bears, here, make a show based off this candy". Duke Igthorn himself is a fun first villain in a long line of memorable Disney TV villains, I especially love how he manages to boss around the much bigger but also much dumber ogres to do his bidding. Again, I wish I could say more about him, but I didn't watch that much of it as a kid and I honestly haven't had the time to revisit the show on Disney+, so I don't have much to work off of. I don't think we'll be getting any more Gummi Bears stuff out of Disney anytime soon, since they apparently couldn't even use the name when they were referenced in the DuckTales reboot, which is a shame since there's a lot of potential here. At the very least, this show wound up being a good indicator for what kind of fun Disney animated shows would follow. As for The Wuzzles, I think I ended up watching every episode of the series when it aired on Toon Disney, which isn't saying much since there were only 13 episodes. It honestly only feels fitting that Disney's first TV show was a toy tie-in (this was the result of Ronald Reagan's presidency and "deregulation", but that's a discussion for another time), like many animated shows during the 80's, even if it was mostly in preparation for the Gummi Bears. For what it's worth, the premise is kind of fun, with a lot of silly word-play and wacky combinations of various things when it comes to the premises of a lot of episodes. It's typical "slice of life" stuff in the lives of these hybrid animal characters, quite different from the more adventurous Gummi Bears show would be. Crock feels a lot like if Pete were a reptile instead of a cat-like creature, big, fat, lazy, greedy, and always causing trouble, albeit usually on a smaller scale. Don't have much to say about Flizard and Brat, I guess every bad guy needs a goon or two to deal with and take their frustrations out on. Literally never heard of "Fluppy Dogs" until this video... although perhaps I've seen the the name pop up a few times hear and there whenever I looked into Disney TV Animation. Hearing the premise when compared to the toyline reminds me of how Care Bears were essentially cute fluffy stuffed animals who's main message was "hey, show you care" or whatever, yet when it came time to have a TV show based on them, even THEY had to have bad guys like Professor Coldheart and No Heart, as well as "weaponized" caring with the Care Bear Stare. The 80's certainly were a different time. One last thing I'll add is that, looking back on the footage used for this video, my God was there some good animation in these older cartoons, even The Wuzzles had a lot of dynamic shots and details you rarely see, either from TV cartoons back in those days, or even in TV cartoons today! It's genuinely impressive stuff... most of the time.

[@melasnexperience]

I did a review of Fluppy Dogs for a long-dead blog years ago, and I stand by my impression that I had back then - the pilot/special made a mistake by putting the most interesting concept for the series in the backstory instead of making it the plot. "Sliders with pastel dogs" is a more interesting concept than what the pilot set up, unless they were gonna use the Earth setting as a framing device. But that would have gotten old pretty quickly. Probably was a good idea to test the waters with the special like they did than just diving into a full series.

[@Nonjola]

Something I noticed about Gad and Zook is, that they both look visually a bit different from the other ogres. Gad is the only purple one, and Zook is the only one with green fur and orange hair.

[@LowellLucasJr.]

I myself am ecstatic to see Gummi Bears getting a villain retrospective! I absolutely love Duke Igthorne, Toadwart, and all the other wonderful villains in the series( Lets not forget Tress Mcneils Lady Bane/ Witch!❤)!!! Not only was this a series I grew up with, it's the one that feels deserves a lot more treatment as a beloved Disney classic! Plus, why doesn't Kingdom Hearts use the ogres as battle fodder? That would be perfect!😂

[@mightyfilm]

I'm a big fan of Smurfs, their Eurocomics moreso than their cartoons. When it comes to Gummi Bears, however, out of all the cheap, lousy, tacky Smurf-a-likes at the time, Gummi Bears was the ONLY series I feel outclasses its inspiration.

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

I would pay good money to have an entire Gummi world in a Kingdom Hearts game. I mean, those ship parts have to come from somewhere, right? Maybe make that the mini-game world and let Pooh and friends take a break

[@mightyfilm]

@@CinnamonGrrlErin1 Despite the fact Japan DID get a Gummi Bears dub (check the language selection if you have Disney+), KH has a tendency to ignore television shows. I know Scrooge pops up a couple times, but that's more of him being a Mickey and Co/Duck family character than Ducktales.

[@LowellLucasJr.]

@@mightyfilm that hurts me even more especially since Huey Dewey and Louie all wearing their signature DuckTales outfits

[@mightyfilm]

@@LowellLucasJr. I think they just adopted those outfits for general Mickey and Co aesthetics. But they did famously get a Japanese dub (important as it's a Japanese gaming company), and a full plush line assortment of every character you can imagine. But by that logic, they should have the Rescue Ranger versions of Chip n' Dale. They got that one two. The actress that plays Luffy played Chip. Shame they only focus on the movies for these things.

[@verdragon5591]

Does this mean a few episodes down the line I'm going to see David Xanatos pop up in one of these?

[@maurycyoseka1057]

Not only him, but also Demona, Thailog, Macbeth, Fox, Wolf, Jackal and Hyena, Dingo, Proteus, Illuminati of all things, Labyrinth Clan, Owen Burnett/Puck, Dr. Anton Severius, Oberon and his children, Hakon, King Constantine III, Canmore Family and Gillecomgain.

[@embermoto]

Ok had to look up Fluppy Dogs cause your summary of what happened sounded like A lot of a 20 minute episode, the pilot is an hour long which makes a lot more sense. The show looks cute and I am kind of said it wasn't picked up. Even though it was similar to Gummy Bears it could have talked about some different issues such as animal rights and conservation work. Really excited for the next episode, the Great Mouse Detective is one of my favorite Disney movies. I have read all the Basil of Baker Street books several times through, now there is an idea for an animated TV series.

[@nicklundy9965]

Im just wondering was the Gummi Ship from Kingdom Hearts inspired by this show. Cause that always bugged me we never gotten the DTVA worlds. Like Duckburg, Cape Suzzette, or even 1994 New York City. Not even a Gummi Glen/QuickTunnel dark ride. I honestly would take that over The Princess and the Frog ride. (I love the movie, but I just need them to fine-tune the concept a bit more). Though something simple would be nice too.

[@MisterWin]

This is one of the few cartoons to have a series finale. Though, I believe it was aired out of order.

[@sirhenrymorgan1187]

I watched Gummi Bears for the first time on Disney+ and was very confused that there were still a few more episodes after the finale. D+ apparently put the episodes in airing order. I think they shoulda put them in production order instead...

[@MisterWin]

@@sirhenrymorgan1187 Agreed! I actually knew about the misorder and watched the finale last during my binge.

[@motxmod]

The most likely reason The Wuzzles isn't available on Disney+ is due to it being a co-production with Hasbro. You may notice that both companies have a copyright on the IP. Disney had the idea for the show but saw that Hasbro had a similar idea for a toyline. Instead of getting into a legal battle over the idea, they teamed up. This is also a reason why the show only lasted 13 episodes. The other was the passing of Bill Scott, the voice of Moosel.

[@WWChampion16]

One of the reasons The Wuzzles was short-lived was because of the passing of Bill Scott who voiced Moosel. Though it's lack of popularity could have also been a factor.

[@mitchfletcher2386]

That was also the reason Gruffi Gummi was voiced by Corey Burton starting from season 2.

[@kiwikenobi]

Super interesting, as always! I hadn't heard of Fluppy Dogs before. And I'm so excited for the Ratigan video!

[@johnboling7426]

Thank you for doing this i miss watching these shows as a kid we had fluppy dogs recorded on a old vhs tape and I'm thankful disney put the gummy bears on DVD but I miss the wuzzles and their adventures the only bright spot is their episode are on KZbin.

[@julymiller7456]

My favorite Disney Princess (shush, she had about half the 65 episodes and was in every of the five seasons) is Calla the heroine to the villain you mentioned. Duke Igthorne. One possible reason Igthorne gets away with so much is actually canon. The Duke is the King's brother. This would cause the King all kinds of real life medieval problems for both the king and the princess. Related to the villain? Yikes!

[@Kerfufflefuf]

Thank you for making this video, I remember watching the pilot for Fluppy Dogs as a kid and I could never remember the name of the show. It would occassionaly pop into my head but with how little I remembered of the pilot I didn't think I would ever be able to figure out what the name of the show was.

[@volzpair9801]

Could also compare the children from the gummy bears with an older longer running series called the Smurfs

[@anibarukyouran1145]

Man fluppy dogs... you unlocked some buried child memories there

[@92JazzQueen]

The 80s was toy driven but man the villains were something. But i gotta say despite the duke being comical at times, the final showed he could be a threat which is something only a few villains can pull off

[@chellastation]

It is nice to revisit these series. Thank you ⚔

[@TheRealBlackarrot]

Nice job including Fluppy Dogs, Wuzzles & Gummi Bears!

[@Nova7o9]

FLUPPIES! Lol, I had a VHS recording of the film and it was my little sister’s favorite so we watched it a lot.

[@Adamguy2003]

@ 7:48- 7:56, most certainly! Eisner may have been a power- hungry jerk, but he was also an intelligent, competent businessman whose primary concern was keeping the company successful and profitable. The same cannot be said for Bob Iger, Bob Chapek, or Kathleen Kennedy (I know, she's not CEO of Disney, but her bungling of pretty much everything Lucasfilm runs speaks for itself).

[@MrNetWraith]

While I really do enjoy your videos, I feel a minor correction is applicable here; whilst humans can only benefit from gummiberry juice once per day, *ogres* can repeatedly empower their strength by drinking fresh doses of the stuff. It's one of their few natural strengths (outside of being nearly impervious to the soporific magic of slumber sprites). So Igthorn's desire to acquire it to power-up his army makes a lot of sense, even in the earlier episodes where ogres are explicitly stronger than humans to begin with, which the series seemed to mildly retcon in later episodes.

[@TheMormonSorceress]

I would love to see Disney tv shows in a kingdom hearts game, Gummi Bears would make for a fun world, and who doesn't want to see Goliath asva summon spell?

[@battybuddy]

I should note that with igthorn, I always thought he was the ultimate example of the evils of human opportunism. If he can weaponize it, he will- if he CANT weaponize it, he’ll find out how to weaponize something ELSE by proxy.

[@battybuddy]

Also with igthorn, I always imagined the reason Igthorn went bad was cause he became disillusioned with the knight code when he felt like he should have gotten more recognition for his accomplishments: and that led to things like twisting the rules and outright scheming and backstabbing. I don’t think Gregor was a bad guy with Igthorn being good, but I think he might have been TOO forgiving of Igthorn when he was on the way to corruption, giving him too many second chances.

[@BrawlSnorlax]

Sometimes I think about who I would make the Mooks in the a Shared universe version on a given property. Mostly Super Smash bors or a were Cartoon Network, DC comics, Mass Effect ...thing (I know Mass Effect is strange to lump in but I just wanna) Anyway those Weesles from Mr. Toad and the Orgers, and the ones from Sleeping Beauty look like a pretty good bunch of Mooks to me.

[@sweets_Cat88]

30:39 I remember watching that pilot at my babysitter’s house when I was little

[@Al1701]

I wish they would finally give the Fluppies a series, considering the success of the Duck Tales reboot. Dimension-hopping spaniels has plenty of possibility, and the pilot gave sense they would visit different dimensions from time to time now that they have regular contact with their home. Who knows what kind of adventures they could've had.

[@92JazzQueen]

Give a second chance

[@masedaace5473]

I like that I'm not the only one who compares Gummi Bears to Asterix.

[@kermitTHEdinosaur93]

Pretty nice video on certainly Disney TV Villains. I hope you someday do the original Playhouse Disney/Disney Junior Villains in the future sometime.

[@homemaranha5649]

Amazing work and I can't wait to see Ratigan

[@brookerickettson4950]

I also think there were parallels between the 3 main adults and the 3 kids on Gummy Bears . The older squire is a jerk who relies on brut force and wants recognition, you got the royal, and you got the nice one who isn’t as skilled but bc they are friends w the royal gets better treatment. If the series went longer I wouldn’t be surprised if the older kid got fed up and jumped ship to Ighor.

[@aidanhever3369]

If you plan to do a retrospective of the DuckTales villains, will you also include the Darkwing Duck villains ?

[@sirhenrymorgan1187]

I was wondering this myself. Considering that- *SPOILERS!!!* for DuckTales 2017: F.O.W.L. are the ultimate villains of DT17, should the DuckTales and Darkwing villains be put together in one vid?

[@maurycyoseka1057]

I am already getting all hyped up for Emperor Belos video just thinking about it! 😄🤩