A great flintlock to start traditional muzzleloading (Lyman Great Plains Rifle)

This is a Lyman Great Plains Rifle in 50 cal. It is a great flintlock if you want to get started in traditional muzzleloading.
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[@OutnBacker]

I've had mine since new in 1982. It's a .50 in percussion. I definitely recommend only real black powder because of the propensity of imitation propellants to hang fire when they have to be ignited through a 90 degree nipple bolster. BP will go off easily in comparison. Imitation powder needs a hotter flame and more direct, closer contact. They work perfectly in BP revolver because those are basically in-line ignitions. The patch should be .018" pillow ticking, not the .015" linen they recommend. The reason is the deep, sharp rifling. It will rip the patches as the ball go down bore, or even when you are ramming (smooth, hand over hand - not pounding like Hollywood). Thick pillow ticking is tough as canvas and works great. These rifles are as accurate as any hunting RB shooter can be, unless you spend a lot more money on the barrel and lock.

[@roberttolley2293]

howdy, been a 30 year Hunter, shooter, muzzle loader. .just found round ball. what a blast. got a sphincter.good videos.

[@garyknepper4546]

I built one of these from a kit. I browned all metal parts instead of bluing them. Looks way better than blueing. I noticed you are using sawed agates. Try using English chipped flints and you will get way better ignition.

[@michaellittle226]

Thanks for sharing .

[@davespaoutdoors]

Got this in 54 caliber an is a real nice flintlock ,,I agree 100 percnt with this review ,my favorite out of my other flintlocks

[@Highlander0766]

A very nice video. I enjoyed it very much. Thanks!

[@TraditionalBlackPowder]

Thank you Cameron, appreciate it.

[@disposable762]

Track of the Wolf has these kits for around $500 I have a Hawken percussion cap but I have always wanted a Hawken flintlock. I also like the iron instead of brass. Thanks for sharing.

[@TraditionalBlackPowder]

+disposable762 You should try one if you get a chance, and since you already have a traditional muzzleloader you know how much fun they are. I agree with you i prefer iron hardware instead of brass, my next one will be all iron.

[@disposable762]

I had a flintlock Kentucky rifle and sold it...That noise you hear is me kicking myself...LOL Muzzle loaders and cap and ball pistols were my first firearms I love 'em. I still have my 1st Hawken I am never selling it...

[@TraditionalBlackPowder]

+disposable762 I hear you, i sold the first muzzleloader i ever bought (back in the early 90's), a TC 50 cal Hawken. I wish i never parted with it, it was a great shooter, lesson learned.

[@thomassmestead6424]

I have the same rifle, ( hunter model ) in percussion caplock. Both are as close to the original Hawken, as you can get, without buying an actual rifle, or kit, from the Hawken Shop, now in Oak Harbor, Washington State. They do not produce finished rifles, but sell authentic Hawken Rifles in kit form. I have the Lyman, and also Traditions frontstuffers, both rifles and pistols. All are quality products, but the Lyman was my first black powder firearm.

[@danbarksey8491]

He is exactly right about the adjustable sight , I couldn’t come close until I changed it too the primitive that they give you ( thank God) . I was dead centre low at 50 yds . Aimed at the top target , was hitting bullseye and cut centre on one shot , had one high and right my wrong guess ... now one more day and filing and will be more than acceptable to hunt with ... shooting , prb and Hornady conical PA’s ,,, 70 gr 3F Goex,,,, never shoot over 100

[@davejenkins5633]

I have a54 Cal.Lyman.love it

[@TraditionalBlackPowder]

+Dave Jenkins Hi Dave, i agree with you, They are a great value for the money.

[@roberttolley5055]

Hope your ok, many prayers

[@nonrustic2221]

beautiful flint lock. i just got my first black powder... but its percussion cap trade rifle..

[@TraditionalBlackPowder]

+Non Rustic They are great rifles, i think you will really enjoy it.

[@user-mt4vo4ey5n]

I'm looking to get that rifle in 54 cal, hence the reason I'm looking at all the vids on it. My limited research shows most feel the Lyman is better than the Traditions but also cost more. I have always felt that "what's a couple hundred bucks" when you're going to own something for decades. I don't have decades left, just years. But I don't want my years spent with a rifle that's always breaking. More Traditions Flintlocks available out there for some reason. We can guess what that reason is. Thanks for posting.

[@stefanh.5543]

I almost never boght a new rifle, there are plenty of used muzzleloaders in very good condition around, , some of them only shot once ending up hanging on the wall...You usully pay half the price.. and when you sell it you get almost everytime your money back you spent... greetings from an old guy from Bavaria Germany

[@gsnicholas8522]

If I could find a 54 flinter that was reasonably priced, I’d buy it. Pedersoli took over the manufacture of this model and the price jumped 50 percent. At that level it’s worth it to add a few hundred bucks for a custom.

[@flintymcduff5417]

True but it also comes down to quality, which took a nice jump with Pedersoli, plus it's a question of "Do I want to shoot now or wait at least a year, usually more, for a custom"?

[@Piledriver2235]

Only thing I don't like about mine (other than the slightly gapped frizzen fit-up) is the patent breach. Was used to moistened patch swabbing between shots on my Austin-Halleck and could load easily indefinitely with a single patch of a moistened patch. Can't do that with a patent breach cause it leads to ignition issues from my experience

[@3DVIDEOSMurray]

Think i might replace my Traditions Kentucky rifle with this exact piece + the rear peep sight!

[@matthewlyness8161]

Now there 650 and up for a flint lock

[@OutnBacker]

One other thing: If you shoot a lot, or for long periods of time through decades as I have, you will break that cheap POS ramrod. I did very early on, so I made ramrods for my BP rifles from sections of aluminum shotgun rods (3/8"). The handle end is already threaded with a handle, so the only thing needed is to measure and cut off the jag end and thread it to accept any of several jags. Both my GR and my Dixie TMR are outfitted this way. People will tell you that the crown will wear out from metallic contact. After 40+ years, there is only the polished tips of the rifling from the patches being started down the bore. There is zero crown wear from the aluminium ramrod. And, they stay in place during firing. The advantages are plain to see: If a ball gets rammed without powder, you simply attach the handle to the end of the rod, turn the rifle muzzle down, step on the handle between your feet and pull the rifle off the ball. Lots of leverage. With repeated loading at the range, one's hand can get sore in the palm from seating the ball. Again, the handle can be used to spread the pressure in the hand. For hanging the rifle on the wall, the wood rod can be used. For hunting or taking to the range, the alloy rod will never let you down and send you home or back to camp, pissed.

[@jmartin9059]

*For OLDER EYES: Do consider a wide and preferably brightly coloured front sight and a large peep or ghost ring rear or a traditional looking and "wider than typical rear notch". These combinations work well for MY OLD EYES.*

[@paraplegichistoricalsports5700]

My .50 cal Lyman Great Plains (cap) with 1:60 twist will be coming in the mail tomorrow.

[@Phillygthemessenger]

How do you like it?

[@paraplegichistoricalsports5700]

@@Phillygthemessenger I absolutely love it. And I have developed an awesome load for it, shooting a 1 3/8 - 5 shot pattern at 50 yards. 60 grains 3f Goex, wet with water/dish soap .015 patch, .498 ball

[@kl0wnkiller912]

I have that exact rifle but mine is a lot nicer quality... they sure have gotten cheaper looking. Mine is at least 40 years old but it is a Lyman.

[@michaelelliot9007]

Have it in caplock, in 54 cal.

[@timharding2111]

I was considering buying a flintlock. Looking at my budget (~5-600?) it looks like between Lyman or Traditions. The main thing I'm wondering is Overall safety. I don't want something that's a time bomb. Would you recommend either company or one over the other? Heck even a completely different company? TVM looks a bit out of budget for me. I'm looking at a entry level to see if it's something I'd enjoy.

[@kieranr3343]

Both the Traditions and Lyman are built well. The only way that these guns could be bombs would be if you were dumb and loaded 400 grains of powder. The guns are built in Italy and Spain and are very well made. I would not worry about them not lasting they will outlive all of us if they are well maintained.

[@user-mt4vo4ey5n]

Lyman all the way.

[@TheDarkchoclate]

Does this have a breech plug for easy cleaning?

[@xXCP1993Xx]

They have those for lefties?

[@TraditionalBlackPowder]

Yes they do. I saw some on Track of the Wolf web site. Make sure you get the slow twist (1 in 60) model if you plan on shooting ball and patch.

[@Fireinahorn]

The stock ramrod on my new .50 GPR is so tight it's not usable. Bought a nice ridgid brass rod and it can't slide in. Rod hits the face of the first metal lug under the barrel that the front wedge pin slides through. I'm disappointed. Emailed Lyman, we'll see.

[@Fireinahorn]

Lyman customer service was a joke. Ended up pleading my case to return the rifle in exchange for another from where I bought it. The replacement is 100% good to go, no issues.