A Green Beret and a Navy SEAL Talk CQC High Port VS Low Port

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Green Beret Mike Glover and Former Navy SEAL Shawn Ryan from Vigilance Elite go over some of the differences between high port and low port room entries when it comes to CQB.
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@ShawnRyanShow
@ShawnRyanShow 4 жыл бұрын
It was a real pleasure working with a true professional again. Thank you making the trip over to TN brother. Hope to see you in AZ next time. Cheers 🍻
@fieldcraftsurvival
@fieldcraftsurvival 4 жыл бұрын
Vigilance Elite like the good ol days man-let’s get back to the antiques!
@ShawnRyanShow
@ShawnRyanShow 4 жыл бұрын
The FieldCraft Survival Channel Don’t threaten me with a good time brother. 😂
@rudiandrefrank1031
@rudiandrefrank1031 4 жыл бұрын
Why would you never button/j-hook?
@arthurbenjie6203
@arthurbenjie6203 4 жыл бұрын
Culture Shock. CIA Live Op.
@Kopfjaeger39
@Kopfjaeger39 4 жыл бұрын
Rudi Andre Frank he does and would. He said he would never button hook like that. The way the wall brace interferes with his entry caused him to alter his entry.
@dirtsider
@dirtsider 4 жыл бұрын
Navy "Barrels up so we don't drown" 101st "Barrels down so we don't crash & Burn" Marines "Mags out, fix bayonets! You can be replaced but Helos and ships are expensive!"
@winnietheflu4633
@winnietheflu4633 4 жыл бұрын
this is all the explanation we need.
@mikemurphy6962
@mikemurphy6962 4 жыл бұрын
its funny but its true....from 101 vet barrel always down because of the birds
@gregjones947
@gregjones947 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO, funny but true, as a Recon Marine, were always grilled about the cost of everything, but in places like mid east, high port was more effective, death came from upper staircases or shooting ports in the ceiling.
@gunchief0811
@gunchief0811 4 жыл бұрын
lol U A FOO DAWG! SSGT.Calhoun. U.S.M.C. (ret) out!...
@swegmastur614
@swegmastur614 4 жыл бұрын
@@cbrr7615 Right? Marsoc got all the goodies lol
@CALISUPERSPORT
@CALISUPERSPORT 3 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of two ex-military guys chillin the wilderness, enjoying life, and also sharing their knowledge to us citizens.
@It-b-Blair
@It-b-Blair 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully it reaches the people with a good conscience, anyone can watch it…
@godwarrior3403
@godwarrior3403 Жыл бұрын
@@It-b-Blair That's why we have to watch it, and train. The best we can, even if it's just knowing how to defend our house and nothing else. If the shtf, there will be plenty of muscled up gun experts with no conscience. Because though I'm sure not many of us on this channel are a fan of leftist's views, there really are a lot of hyper-aggressive, racist, gun loving, people-indifferent potential bad guys on the right. If shtf, if you've ever seen the walking dead, the Negans of that world will be people who may have spent thousands of dollars and hours honing these crafts. We can only be ready to do our best and hope not to draw the attention of the better trained.
@grumpyhermit8657
@grumpyhermit8657 4 жыл бұрын
the best way to enter a room is to running jump around the corner while looking sideways. its called peekers advantage and it helps keep your kdr higher than 1.
@shanefeller881
@shanefeller881 4 жыл бұрын
If you enter the room first, you have the ping advantage- sounds reasonable to me
@scarecrowgames7773
@scarecrowgames7773 4 жыл бұрын
You gotta flick bro
@tDarKnight
@tDarKnight 4 жыл бұрын
I like to enter first with a thermal detonator just to knock 'em off balance followed by thermal imploder then a TL50 secondary barrage before engaging personal shield and sweeping the corners at my leisure but... I suppose this works too...
@Ranger215able
@Ranger215able 4 жыл бұрын
Where did you get this information? Instructor Carl? Did you at least hand a hand grenade too?
@jessejames1590
@jessejames1590 4 жыл бұрын
@Tane Rameka i just use the most honorable way of killing, from my office in LA while i fly my $3.5 million drone and rain hell fire on the unsuspecting victims in cowboy hats and flip flops that are just trying to get frisky with their favorite goat.
@somethingsomethingsomethingdar
@somethingsomethingsomethingdar 4 жыл бұрын
I know this is about high port low port but the biggest take away for me was how even though they have their guns unloaded I didn’t see those barrels ever point in an unsafe direction. Not even once even during conversation.
@zombieastro997
@zombieastro997 4 жыл бұрын
Juan Pablo Munoz i noticed that too.
@madkins77765
@madkins77765 4 жыл бұрын
Because they are seasoned professionals
@Gerbs1913
@Gerbs1913 4 жыл бұрын
They know one accident is all it takes to end someone.
@jordantreese1225
@jordantreese1225 4 жыл бұрын
If you're disciplined and in the military that's usually the case since we get fucked up
@davidwaggoner8521
@davidwaggoner8521 4 жыл бұрын
They did it hot too...
@benj1b
@benj1b 4 жыл бұрын
Being that I was in the army and always taught the low ready, this was eye opening. It makes so much sense seeing it like this. Great video guys, thanks for this
@iamoSlothy
@iamoSlothy 4 жыл бұрын
benj1b yup same, this was a shocker
@Gunker02
@Gunker02 4 жыл бұрын
i had a TL years ago that went through a CQB course taught by SEALs. He came back teaching these methods, and now 10 years later, as im teaching these same methods to my TLs and lower joes, im still getting yelled at for not being at low port. Army needs an Update.
@michaelhernandez1398
@michaelhernandez1398 4 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how much better the high port is.
@Ajax94_
@Ajax94_ 4 жыл бұрын
Crazy how they teach us low port in the Infantry thinking we’re learning from the best. Looking at this video shows how there’s better methods out there just baffles me.
@mrarivv0007
@mrarivv0007 4 жыл бұрын
That's the difference between the army and a contract killer.
@frostbitepokin9520
@frostbitepokin9520 4 жыл бұрын
Gonna go clear my kitchen out with all this knowledge
@kylesmith4173
@kylesmith4173 4 жыл бұрын
Clear your whole house, never know when you might need to do that for real.
@joshuasmith6346
@joshuasmith6346 4 жыл бұрын
Ha i did that earlier with my nerf rival blasters
@michaelivey6459
@michaelivey6459 4 жыл бұрын
Be advised, frying pans from startled wives are not to be considered "less lethal".
@frostbitepokin9520
@frostbitepokin9520 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Ivey roger that
@frostbitepokin9520
@frostbitepokin9520 4 жыл бұрын
Joshua Smith I should try it with my nerf recon while using the “c clamp” grip
@ngrog234
@ngrog234 4 жыл бұрын
Love this type of content.
@fieldcraftsurvival
@fieldcraftsurvival 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@danielcooper7271
@danielcooper7271 4 жыл бұрын
@3:43 - shows you how humble and honest they are - no matter the hours they have and all the experience they have they're still humble enough to admit, learn, and execute. Thank you Shawn and Mike from one vet to another... God Bless and thank you
@ShawnRyanShow
@ShawnRyanShow 4 жыл бұрын
That's what it's all about.
@c.l.e.a.n.nation
@c.l.e.a.n.nation 4 жыл бұрын
I got roasted so bad in Basic for carrying high ready in a training exercise and my Drill said to me, "I get why you're doing that but wait until you get to your unit before you start doing cool guy s***, there ain't no cool guys in Basic"...then after going thru CA school and getting to my unit they told us "throw all that Basic Training s*** out the window, you're with the big kids now"...we trained high ready and were asked how are you gonna stop a guy hiding next to a door if your weapon is pointed at the ground, one Sergeant would always say, "you probably can't shoot worth s*** but put the tip of that barrel thru his face and see whose going home" lol...love Shawn's philosophy on warfighting and personal defense, it's simple, no nonsense and to the point...likewise with Mike...Strength and Honor.
@NavyDave219
@NavyDave219 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@GreenOpsInc
@GreenOpsInc 4 жыл бұрын
Just to add a little bit of clarity, I went through SFARTAETC back in 1996, where we were taught both High and Low Port. We used both during the flat range portion and it was required that the 3 & 4 man in the stack, use high port. When I got to the CIF, and I went to high port, they said "we don't do that here" and the main reason was "safety" because of the folks on the catwalk. I use both, teach both and believe both have their place. Great vid and thanks putting out some good info.
@boatdriver9533
@boatdriver9533 4 жыл бұрын
Not a SEAL, but in the late 1980s The Boat Units and SEALs were taught both positions. They were taught to be used situationally as needed.
@GreenOpsInc
@GreenOpsInc 4 жыл бұрын
@@boatdriver9533 Makes sense. There was a lot more integration in the beginning. I didn't realize it, but there were Army Special Forces medics in ST6 back in the day too.
@GreenOpsInc
@GreenOpsInc 4 жыл бұрын
@William Vagabond I recommend knowing both, so yes, get out there and learn the benefits of high ready, but don't discard low ready. I use both, teach both and believe both have their place. It's up to you, to find out which one works best in different situations. I recommend using a timer on the flat range, but then try working different scenarios doing some barricade and room clearing.
@michaelwang1524
@michaelwang1524 4 жыл бұрын
As a gamer I have no knowledge of stacked entry but do u guys ever peak your head or a body part in a corner for a split second before entry against prepared defenders? I ask because in games defenders will be aiming down sights and fire at any motion they see and will always have the split second advantage against attackers.
@michaelwang1524
@michaelwang1524 4 жыл бұрын
@@LRRPFco52 Wow thanks for the in depth answer now I feel supid for asking that question. The military has access to so much more than the contents of my games
@mach9383
@mach9383 4 жыл бұрын
While high port might be slightly quicker, I think both are effective and should be practiced because every situation and environment is different. Therefore, both techniques should be practiced. All part of your Improvise, Adapt and Overcome repertoire. Good job guys. Always good information from two professionals.
@atomicbong7597
@atomicbong7597 4 жыл бұрын
All of you guys who have done this in a real CQB scenario - I can't imagine what that is like - but I get a knot in my belly thinking about it. Hats off to you all!
@Legatus2kx
@Legatus2kx 4 жыл бұрын
Let's just say, your heart beats x3 as fast cause you don't know what you'll encounter on the other side, so anything can happen.
@Tainomontana
@Tainomontana 4 жыл бұрын
I would think the reason they keep their emotions in check & flow thru some of the most challenging situations is due to not thinking as much but instead relying on muscle memory, all the hard work they put in during training would make running thru many challenges almost second nature, only making adjustments as needed in fractions of a second that have also been thought of as plan “B”, “C”, ect
@Tainomontana
@Tainomontana 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta keep in mind these guys get the best & most extensive training, they are literally killing machines which is part of the reason they have to work just as hard as they train to “turn the switch off” when getting back to normal day to day life. These guys are not only the best of the best but have a very tough life. Look into Vegilance’s channel he explains some aspects which is why I know what I do about it.
@adamswarthout763
@adamswarthout763 4 жыл бұрын
Thousands of hours of training went in for these two professionals to provide this content, free. Amazing work. Also, anyone know what kind of jacket Shawn is wearing?
@k.mccarthy6709
@k.mccarthy6709 2 жыл бұрын
Tan jacket.. You're welcome bro
@williamflowers9435
@williamflowers9435 Жыл бұрын
🧥
@Wizzanker
@Wizzanker 4 жыл бұрын
This was one of the most useful tactical discussions i have heard in a while. Love really breaking down simple things.
@maddmavic
@maddmavic 4 жыл бұрын
Wifes out with friends just cleared whole house out all the cats are dead. My son made a great front man . Lmao 😂😂
@kevinsidesgeneralmanager9608
@kevinsidesgeneralmanager9608 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Hilarious!
@MDC2020
@MDC2020 4 жыл бұрын
HAHAHHAHAHAHA
@JerseyToTheBone
@JerseyToTheBone 4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao!!!
@KaleoMgmt
@KaleoMgmt 4 жыл бұрын
Right on! When my daughters were around 4 we used to stack on their bedroom door to clear their room before bedtime. No issues with monsters under the bed on those nights!!!
@DocEbs
@DocEbs 4 жыл бұрын
40lb soft armor. I like it
@Wil482Senior
@Wil482Senior 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for addressing this critical difference. In SF, as you said, I was ONLY trained to do low ready, and the SEALs did high ready. This is a huge difference, and is a much bigger debate than most civilians and regular troops would think.
@Kaiserland111
@Kaiserland111 3 жыл бұрын
Moreover it's not just an arbitrary debate, like which sports team is better, but one involving best practices for life-and-death tactics.
@estatesales9818
@estatesales9818 4 жыл бұрын
Marine says, "Just frag the room... Then go in."
@DaveSmith-cp5kj
@DaveSmith-cp5kj 4 жыл бұрын
One room, one body? More like room one grenade. :)
@Steve-qx2kw
@Steve-qx2kw 4 жыл бұрын
Estate Sales Drop red crayons 🖍 at the door to show clear.
@NASTEfilms
@NASTEfilms 4 жыл бұрын
...Then go in high port.*
@iREPda609
@iREPda609 4 жыл бұрын
Casualties be damned
@galagabyte9046
@galagabyte9046 4 жыл бұрын
You got a time stamp?
@greenjackal4362
@greenjackal4362 3 ай бұрын
that intro was living and breathing, the minds eye reliving an incident within its own zone. I can watch that flow endlessly. Thank you
@directimpingement8202
@directimpingement8202 4 жыл бұрын
Love the no-nonsense, non-hyped, simple explanations given from real world/learned experience without being preachy. Thanks for breaking this down guys, great to see the joint-force cooperation. Just a couple guys out in the field, practicing, given you their view. Great stuff!
@gregchabot7160
@gregchabot7160 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the history part on how it evolved from low to high. Definitely have to trust your team mate using low ready.
@ShawnRyanShow
@ShawnRyanShow 4 жыл бұрын
Greg Chabot Thanks for watching Greg! Stoked to hear you like it.
@gregchabot7160
@gregchabot7160 4 жыл бұрын
@@ShawnRyanShow I learned from it and intend to implement how you drive the weapon forward. Personally I never liked low ready. High ready is more natural for folks in my opinion. I hate ready up drills from low position.😉
@ShawnRyanShow
@ShawnRyanShow 4 жыл бұрын
Greg Chabot I also hate ready ups 😂
@ravenks1sr15
@ravenks1sr15 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad much of JBLM is like F U to any of us wanting to apply something practical like this. As usual, probably it just makes too much sense.
@isaiahmarquez9717
@isaiahmarquez9717 4 жыл бұрын
Greg Chabot and we did. 😉
@AnthonyHow94
@AnthonyHow94 4 жыл бұрын
Two badass guys explaining this to us normies, thank you brother.
@ShawnRyanShow
@ShawnRyanShow 4 жыл бұрын
Jake Howlett cheers 🍻
@AnthonyHow94
@AnthonyHow94 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers brother
@road_king_dude
@road_king_dude 4 жыл бұрын
Civi life am i right?
@ricpla6930
@ricpla6930 4 жыл бұрын
Jake Howlett 🙄
@ClintDecker148
@ClintDecker148 4 жыл бұрын
@@ShawnRyanShow Correct me if I'm wrong...high port is of very little use to civilians, unless we're clearing a narrow corridor in one direction. Implementing it solo seems like a fatal idea, but perhaps you can do a video on this.
@daveware4117
@daveware4117 4 жыл бұрын
For a civilian, its super interesting listening to full on professionals discuss the finer points of combat. Id consider my self a "good shot" and " proficient" with firearms, but holly shit. All i can say is both of these dudes seem like pretty good guys and im thankfull, because i NEVER want to end up on the buisness end of one of their guns. Cool video, subscribed.
@yipeeiaye
@yipeeiaye 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting points of view between 2 very established individuals in the "industry" - Don't know how I have missed this one. Would love to see more with these Mike and Shawn - would be a great series
@LesegoMalokaCrispyNotes
@LesegoMalokaCrispyNotes 4 жыл бұрын
As a South African, it's an honor watching content of this calibre. Been following Shawn (Vigilance Elite) for over a year & now I'm adding this channel to my subscriptions 💯
@ShawnRyanShow
@ShawnRyanShow 4 жыл бұрын
That's awesome, thank you.
@rustyshackleford9017
@rustyshackleford9017 4 жыл бұрын
just a simple 11b but its interesting how many different tactics are used under the army doctrine. shoot houses are always low carry, but we were taught to high port as 2 man. using a shot timer made it clear how helpful hi port is
@em34ev3r
@em34ev3r 2 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome. Thank you for your service
@LOGICALLYY
@LOGICALLYY 4 жыл бұрын
Love seeing America’s best showing what they learned to the us people that haven’t had the training.
@dylan4964
@dylan4964 4 жыл бұрын
Like the days of the colonial militiamen like Washington serving in the army then spreading that knowledge to the militias
@rzr2ffe325
@rzr2ffe325 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly anyone who sits down and thinks about the smartest way to do things, then practices them over and over, is going to be successful.
@willroland9811
@willroland9811 4 жыл бұрын
@@rzr2ffe325 all that thinking has been done already, tried and true. And available for the most part for free. Field manuals cover the basics. Then you turn to these guys for the bells and whistles, what hasn't made it to print yet. There are actually a small number of effective tactics, variance is dictated by circumstances. All battle plans are valid till first contact, then...? This is why run to the gun is the most brilliant method ever devised for combat... Gomer can understand it readily, and it comes down to the individual effort. Simple as that.
@Swiat34
@Swiat34 4 жыл бұрын
During early OIF, we Marines we always entering via Low-Port but we had M16s and not M4s. We did learn, in combat, that the “90s SWAT team flood” wasn’t the best way to fight against a prepared enemy with machine guns. We started fighting from outside open doorways by pieing.
@Johnny_Cash_Flow
@Johnny_Cash_Flow 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. YUT. Rah.
@gregjones947
@gregjones947 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, did both in the 80's in OUF, OJC, and later Panama, finally got pencil barrel carbines w/A1 sights and ACOG, man did that improve maneuvers.
@ryean1_aus
@ryean1_aus 4 жыл бұрын
What's the next evolution from pieing I wonder?
@TheMonkeygrunt
@TheMonkeygrunt 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryean1_aus flash bang's.. they actually gave us some on me second deployment. Issues were reported of them going off unprimed so they pulled them out of the field.
@thelion70x79
@thelion70x79 3 жыл бұрын
If time is on your side (aka you don't have to do this fast), pieing it out is the way to go if you have to clear a room. Otherwise your risk of being shot by an enemy combatant already expecting an entry is very high even with speed. For home defense, unless you have to move out of your Alamo (aka the room with the fire arms), your better off being the guy waiting in the cut for the intruder! You know your home, the intruder likely does not, use the terrain (building) to your advantage.
@jacobscott8600
@jacobscott8600 4 жыл бұрын
I trained CQB at the shoot house at Benning with General Dempsey on the catwalk watching our selected team out of the whole battalion by our CO and SGM for demonstration .. quite an honor
@endutubecensorship
@endutubecensorship 4 жыл бұрын
To all those going down range and those that have gone before them, God's speed and God bless Lest we forget
@blehbleh222
@blehbleh222 4 жыл бұрын
R 🤘🏽🇦🇺
@rodgers_22
@rodgers_22 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously awesome content. I love the way each of you is bouncing ideas and questions off the other person. It shows that even the experts can always learn more and enjoy hearing other people's opinions. Solid stuff guys.
@ShawnRyanShow
@ShawnRyanShow 4 жыл бұрын
Gavin Rodgers exactly right man. Cheers
@BretAllenStudios
@BretAllenStudios 4 жыл бұрын
That’s the way tactical CQB is taught. We were constantly contributing to the group discussions and trying to prove/disprove different ways to approach a problem/solution.
@andrewwallace1174
@andrewwallace1174 4 жыл бұрын
This is the best team up iv ever seen
@nickaguado7
@nickaguado7 4 жыл бұрын
10:07 how fast Shawn got on his sights and went back to high ready was some ninja shit lmao. Good God.
@waltr34
@waltr34 4 жыл бұрын
The speed of Mike's 5 shots reminds me of Jerry Miculek, repetition is the mother of skill, prob has more reps than I'll get in my lifetime. Thanks guys, 2 more channels I need to sub to.
@HonestOutlawReviews
@HonestOutlawReviews 4 жыл бұрын
what a great video, much appreciated
@ShawnRyanShow
@ShawnRyanShow 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother.
@jerrylegranvil1794
@jerrylegranvil1794 3 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@Kaiserland111
@Kaiserland111 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see you here!
@mikemiller5637
@mikemiller5637 3 жыл бұрын
“From the head down is where everybody’s bodies are” military wisdom
@jonenglish6617
@jonenglish6617 4 жыл бұрын
So nice to see pros explaining stuff. the muzzle and trigger discipline was outstanding.
@littlemoccasin5678
@littlemoccasin5678 4 жыл бұрын
Opening gave me chills & made me emotional and thankful for all our guys do that we never see.
@ericmalachi7768
@ericmalachi7768 3 ай бұрын
I just cleared my home 5 times already and this works, thanks.
@VikingPreparedness
@VikingPreparedness 4 жыл бұрын
I so enjoyed the professional discussion. DOL
@elcuete
@elcuete 3 жыл бұрын
Omg I soooo enjoyed it too(white valley girl voice)
@tylerb556
@tylerb556 4 жыл бұрын
"my go pro was on my belt so I could get the pov" 😂☠️
@ShawnRyanShow
@ShawnRyanShow 4 жыл бұрын
Tyler B. Haha 😂 say cheese 📸
@ernestpaul2484
@ernestpaul2484 4 жыл бұрын
Being I was Army, that sounded like a Navy recruiting pitch.
@DaveSmith-cp5kj
@DaveSmith-cp5kj 4 жыл бұрын
@@ernestpaul2484 Get a good shot of the seamen
@aaccurate
@aaccurate 4 жыл бұрын
Nice teaching video Gents. Hope to see more “why we do this” in the future. Makes the learning easier.
@logan.stark777
@logan.stark777 8 ай бұрын
The power and speed Shawn Ryan has hitting the point of domination is freak’n awesome.
@tedhastings8828
@tedhastings8828 4 жыл бұрын
I love how each time you raise and lower your weapon it is in a circular motion AWAY from his face,body, etc. it’s just good to see that type of weapon awareness ingrained
@jsedwards25
@jsedwards25 4 жыл бұрын
Such a compelling discussion, even when 99.95% have never experienced this and - God willing - won’t have to. Listening to experience and expertise provide practical discourse on two schools of thought evolving to reality...thanks guys, I (and a whole lot of us) appreciate you for this.
@ShawnRyanShow
@ShawnRyanShow 4 жыл бұрын
Jon E cheers 🍻
@Johnny_Cash_Flow
@Johnny_Cash_Flow 4 жыл бұрын
Marines, 2003, was taught low ready - now try to incorporate high ready, but it's tough to not resort to old habits when in the moment and under stress. Good vid.
@ohiooutdoors6208
@ohiooutdoors6208 4 жыл бұрын
This was a great video. Good to see the two best branches of our military working together and showing their entry skills. The end was the best part with the joking and making fun. Good stuff guys
@InnocuousTransition
@InnocuousTransition 4 жыл бұрын
As a Tier 2 dude training with Tier 1 guys, the biggest reason that was articulated to me about high vs low port is that high port blocks your FOV and is slower to bring a heavy rifle accurately on target, meaning that when you drop the rifle you tend to dip below your point of aim and correct upwards, as opposed to bringing the rifle up and essentially on target without correction being necessary. It's also a lot easier to carry a rifle at the low ready for hours at a time versus the high carry. Open to alternate points of view, but that's how the unit guys taught it.
@therealjohnsmith4811
@therealjohnsmith4811 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct. There are also light, laser / illuminator issues with pointing your rifle at the ceiling when most of your targets are eye level and below in a typical room situation.
@ryean1_aus
@ryean1_aus 4 жыл бұрын
@@therealjohnsmith4811 100%.
@robertcoats6432
@robertcoats6432 4 жыл бұрын
For a guy that’s been out of the fight for over 4 decades I love seeing the evolution of the art of war.
@Alwayzsumptin
@Alwayzsumptin 4 жыл бұрын
This was very informative and I love this type of content as well as the humor at the end. Awesome video guys!
@Kimchi_Studios
@Kimchi_Studios 4 жыл бұрын
This was a great simple but incredible insight. I love that aggressive snap
@ShawnRyanShow
@ShawnRyanShow 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@michaelbrady4208
@michaelbrady4208 2 жыл бұрын
Both have distinct advantages/disadvantages in my opinion. My biggest issue against high port is having something up (barrel/rail) that could block a portion of your view, even in the slightest. You see things/threats, I personally don’t like anything blocking ANY of my vision. Overall great videos as always with Shawn and Mike.
@sirg-had8821
@sirg-had8821 4 жыл бұрын
It's always fun to watch two professionals to talk shop.
@papayamusicofficial7941
@papayamusicofficial7941 3 жыл бұрын
LOVE the “We the people” wall. Thank you guys for your service, too, for everything. All you have done for this country. We definitely need more people like you guys. God bless you guys. 🙌🏼💯🇺🇸🕊
@brettrobinson38
@brettrobinson38 4 жыл бұрын
Some really good general knowledge easily explained by a couple real pipe hitters very cool thanks fellas
@jerdog333
@jerdog333 4 жыл бұрын
My brother and I are getting nerf guns for Christmas and we will be running this until my wife makes us stop. So awesome!
@ShawnRyanShow
@ShawnRyanShow 4 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@jerdog333
@jerdog333 4 жыл бұрын
@@ShawnRyanShow You think that's funny? Just wait till I make him be the fist guy and keep shooting him in the calves from low port! Haha
@coincollector315
@coincollector315 3 жыл бұрын
The dream team. Thank you both for what you have done and what you continue to do
@hoykoy96
@hoykoy96 4 жыл бұрын
Shawn- “you looked REALLY hot going through the doorway” Mike- “really , you like that?”
@JustBeAdude
@JustBeAdude 4 жыл бұрын
I think honestly that the reason the difference between muzzle up/muzzle down is the manner in which the general force stands with their weapons if you think about it. Most troops are patrolling/standing with muzzles low. Specific clearance drills are different. This is where the muscle memory of hours on the range of ready up drills came from. Whichever you train with, you will be proficient with. Neither had any serious drawbacks as I have used both as well. Cheers.
@50StichesSteel
@50StichesSteel 4 жыл бұрын
Heres a few things from my personal experiences about the low ready that still gives it some cons and advantages over muzzle up. 1) Most threats are gonna be either standing, kneeling, sitting or in the prone when you enter a room. Coming from the ground up it gives you the ability to get on that trigger quicker before you even get completely set in your shoulder pocket. Legs, hips stomach then up to center mass and head. Coming from muzzle up you got dead air until you hit the head and that's if the guys standing. Kneeling and prone you have even more dead air time. Low ready also let's you get that stock somewhat set in your shoulder so it's just a roll up instead that small out and in you have to do muzzle up 2) multiple squads clearing the same building on different floors. You still run into the same problem once you hit 3 floors but most middle east buildings are 1&2 stories....I use both methods for different scenarios. I prefer low ready (aka high ready for Army guys, optic just below eye level)ready if we had to fight our way to a building and clear fast into likely ready to fight defenders because of reasons stated above. Muzzle up in tight confined areas...We did do things to compensate for training environments but we all went "this is just for this training. We aren't fighting like this". Take care gents...One reason Navy went muzzle up is of course the platforms they come in on is floating related. Having the muzzle down when infil or exfiling the target in a seal mobile isn't the best idea. Also letting gravity help you get down to that head shot is great. Knowing how to do both is a great idea in my opinion
@James_Edward59
@James_Edward59 4 жыл бұрын
Your abandoning a huge point he was explaining that is super super important when it comes to clearing rooms and that’s air space. You want to use air space as wisely as possible for the best fluidity. You are imagining someone using their shoulder pocket and rolling up from a port completely straight down which is how the port has to be when you are anything but the number 1 man. With port up, you can already start utilizing that air space before you hit the threshold by pulling that stock next to your hip almost and then rolling the muzzle downwards around the threshold of the door and shucking it straight out but even before you shuck the rifle out, you are in a position to engage at center mass heights if you needed to. It’s kind of hard to explain in text but air space is something you get to utilize a lot better to your advantage with port up.
@50StichesSteel
@50StichesSteel 4 жыл бұрын
@@James_Edward59 I wasn't disagreeing completely most likely thats how I would 2 man and enter. You can be other places than 90° down though. Moving down an alley way in an urban area you have that rifle slightly under your 1 mans shoulder height and can be hip to butt in that scenario. It's all dynamic though depending on what the scenario is. Like I said I use both. He kind of relegates the low ready to having to be 90° straight down. You dont have to be like that when in the low ready. You do need to have quick and stable footwork to 2 man low ready....Just adding some experiences to the convo. I'm not saying hes wrong
@James_Edward59
@James_Edward59 4 жыл бұрын
50 Stitches Steel we are talking mostly about clearing rooms in a structure and in that situation you kind of do have to be 90 degrees down to be as close to the 1 man as possible.
@empire-classfirenationbatt2691
@empire-classfirenationbatt2691 4 жыл бұрын
This has got to be the coolest and most badass thing I've seen all day.
@ShawnRyanShow
@ShawnRyanShow 4 жыл бұрын
That's awesome
@Gerbs1913
@Gerbs1913 4 жыл бұрын
The thing I see with both is that shortening the stock would help either way. I do appreciate that neither of these guys think their method is immensely better, and that both are valid.
@tudyk21
@tudyk21 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Shawn Ryan and Vigilance Elite for pointing me toward this channel. Looking forward to viewing your videos.
@jorgepalacios8977
@jorgepalacios8977 4 жыл бұрын
Always liked how shawn always talks respectfully to others
@palakpaneer1430
@palakpaneer1430 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool to see the two of you guys collaborate and put out fundamentals for the thinking public. You guys should do a JV and put together some courses for civ and leo types.
@hooh1644
@hooh1644 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Train them for confiscation! It's the perfect reason for the militarization of the the police! Couldn't agree more, best comment!
@johnhudson1545
@johnhudson1545 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Yes. Our team had a retired SFOD guy show us "compressed high ready" several years ago. It works well especially for tall operators.
@rossg4788
@rossg4788 4 жыл бұрын
Low Ready: A key point not mentioned is if you do flag a teammate from high port, you are covering his head. If you do it from a low ready/port, you flag lower body. Flagging is never acceptable, even though we have our finger off the trigger and selector on safe until engaging threats. We all know it happens, especially in when adrenaline is flowing. SEALs have actually killed some of their own guys in training accidents with high port CQB, the Army has not. This fact is not lost on Army doctrine, hence reluctance to drink the Navy Cool-Aid. The alternating of low ready muzzle positions is taught to compress the standard Army fire team stack (4 Soldiers) which eliminates the flagging threat/risk, keeps the stack tight, and makes entry flow smoother. Smooth is fast. Keep in mind the active Army is not training to SOF levels, but Tier 1 Army guys use low ready. Kyle Lamb has a video on it.
@therealjohnsmith4811
@therealjohnsmith4811 4 жыл бұрын
Well said and agreed on all points. If you have to take a knee, bend over, or go down you will either have to transition or flag everybody as well. A great deal of “shoot house” isms in this video not balanced with on target experiences.
@hotsnow5042
@hotsnow5042 Ай бұрын
Most of our Department quals start from low ready with the rifle or handgun (if starting unholstered). After seeing this, I am STILL going to shoot the quals as directed, obviously, but in stacked clearing, I am going to show this vid to some of the other guys and see what they think. Some very solid points that transfer over to the local LE world, so, thank you for this, you've made us safer!
@jmc0369
@jmc0369 2 жыл бұрын
I went to USMC CQB school, used it in MUCH VBSS ops, and in combat in 2004 (Fallujah2); its nice to see some updated perspectives.
@roofer3608
@roofer3608 4 жыл бұрын
I always tend to do high ready in the woods shooting. Throat checked myself pretty good one time, felt like I shoulda liked and subscribed somewhere at that moment.
@road_king_dude
@road_king_dude 4 жыл бұрын
🤣👍
@roberttran4125
@roberttran4125 4 жыл бұрын
"Maybe they need to be shot, maybe they don't" - Shawn Ryan... lol!
@WaterburnerActual
@WaterburnerActual 4 жыл бұрын
It was good to see y'all immediately following the end of the demo, elaborate regarding an aspect that would not be done Real Time. The Button Hook at the end and that thing Shawn did at the beginning. I found myself saying out loud.. I Did NOT Understand That.. at the start, and at the end I said.. WTF Was That!?! Both times, at End of the Demo, y'all immediately provided corrective info. Thanks for a excellent video. People like to keep up on things and be made aware of changes and the reason for. Enjoy the Holiday!
@wraptonic
@wraptonic 2 жыл бұрын
I loved analyzing this video and I even slowed them down to dissect everything, solid demos. Much appreciated 🙏🏽
@robertmurdoch1
@robertmurdoch1 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing this, I have even more respect for SR. Very precise, crisp, deliberate, and forceful movement. Impressive!
@rerun8950
@rerun8950 4 жыл бұрын
7 years of Sit Wait and Talk (SWAT) as a sniper/entry guy and trained several times with Paul Howe. Very humbling to work and train with these professionals. Hats off and thanks for the tips. We did low entry forever as well.
@ryean1_aus
@ryean1_aus 4 жыл бұрын
Low-ready for entry? Many former D-Fo go low, right?
@mrwongus
@mrwongus 4 жыл бұрын
The Green Beret vs Navy SEAL jokes are too funny. Camera man, BIG FAT WINDSOCK on the mic please!
@mattsterpiecenjmaflva9956
@mattsterpiecenjmaflva9956 4 жыл бұрын
Shawn is so chill when he speaks. Watching him go kinetic is incredible.
@Testosterone_unplugged
@Testosterone_unplugged 4 жыл бұрын
Finally, a true explanation between low and high port... Thank you so much 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
@ShawnRyanShow
@ShawnRyanShow 4 жыл бұрын
James S was awesome to be able to work with Mike and discuss this topic.
@M00ND0G58
@M00ND0G58 4 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter to me which method you use! Just extremely happy you guys are on our side! Thanks for your service and advice!
@raypuffenbarger4570
@raypuffenbarger4570 Жыл бұрын
At the end, your little banter back and forth absolutely brightened my day. God bless you both.
@palehorseone
@palehorseone 2 жыл бұрын
Tactically and culturally, that was an amazing instruction for me. Hats off to you two consummate pros.
@DDGVET4
@DDGVET4 4 жыл бұрын
The only advantage to low port might be going down stairs or ladders onboard ship.
@flyoverkid55
@flyoverkid55 4 жыл бұрын
Always used muzzle down on aircraft, the important stuff is overhead.
@Jay_Sullivan
@Jay_Sullivan 4 жыл бұрын
@@flyoverkid55 , landing gear is for losers. We need the lights and fans.
@flyoverkid55
@flyoverkid55 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jay_Sullivan Seems you haven't spent time in military aircraft.
@MidnughtMerauders
@MidnughtMerauders 4 жыл бұрын
The advantage depends on the mission and who is using them. If you aren't military; let's say a cop or a citizen who hears a bump in the night then high port might mean pointing your gun at people who aren't bad guys. Again ok for a seal entering a structure in Afghanistan but not ok for a cop entering our children's schools
@flyoverkid55
@flyoverkid55 4 жыл бұрын
@@MidnughtMerauders I disagree. Point in fact is in the video of the recent shooting in NJ, where numerous police can be seen carrying all manner of firearms, some in high port, some not. Circumstances dictate tactics just as the mission dictates the gear train.
@readyme
@readyme 4 жыл бұрын
Like watching a masters course...love it. I hope to see more collaborations.
@JESTR_ACTUAL
@JESTR_ACTUAL 4 жыл бұрын
Late to this game. This is some informative stuff. Aside from the subject material, you guys just asking each other questions about training methods shows how J crews should be adaptable. Absolutely awesome. Also digging that MK18, not gonna lie.
@markohmstead5855
@markohmstead5855 4 жыл бұрын
As a former Marine and current SWAT Operator, I concur the high ready (high port) is probably faster and safer if you don't have friendlies above you. Situation dictates the mission. Good video guys. Semper Fi.
@588holly
@588holly 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know there was such a thing as a former Marine.
@wingsofwar13
@wingsofwar13 4 жыл бұрын
Good explanations. I’m constantly fighting the “old school” think in the LE world with this on my team. We’re progressing slowly, but I still don’t have everyone convinced. Very difficult to change the “that is the way we’ve always done it” mentality.
@wurzel9671
@wurzel9671 4 жыл бұрын
Are the LEOs using Low Port or something different entirely?
@mackamitsu
@mackamitsu 4 жыл бұрын
changing mindset is damn hard a lot of times. This video would help the trainers change their minds. It makes a lot of sense, and if the SOF are using it, LEO's should be looking at it hard especially with trained tango's infiltrating.
@americanrifleman2992
@americanrifleman2992 4 жыл бұрын
LE world is full of ego as well. I hated dealing with officers who knew everything but had done nothing.
@michaelschram5391
@michaelschram5391 4 жыл бұрын
As an infantry squad leader, this video has augmented my cqb knowledge and I have started to move my guys away from low in favor of high for certain situations. It's a game changer. Thanks for this excellent content and please keep collaborating on useful shit like this.
@fieldcraftsurvival
@fieldcraftsurvival 4 жыл бұрын
Right on! Glad to hear it!
@ryean1_aus
@ryean1_aus 4 жыл бұрын
What situations?
@gilbertoesquivel9668
@gilbertoesquivel9668 4 жыл бұрын
Navy: "You looked really hot going thru that doorway..." Army: "Yeah it's a bit warn out today..." Marines: ( smh... )
@nothingnewtome1
@nothingnewtome1 4 жыл бұрын
There should be more conversations like this on camera. I think there’s so much benefit to seeing the pros and cons of two different ways to do the same thing. This is how innovation comes about.
@FlatlandkinG
@FlatlandkinG 2 жыл бұрын
For the question of 'is there advantages of low ready?', I got a few answers for that. 1: Profile. When traversing in bushes or barricades(like a car or furniture etc) of varying height, low ready keeps your barrel better concealed rather than waving it like a flag above concealment exposing your position and intent. 2: When overtly traversing through thick shrubs/bushes, ie. at speed during a firefight, low ready can help you pierce a fast path ahead of you, using your forearm/elbow on your support hand and the barrel to wedge open a hole that your knees can drive up through and head can duck in as you punch through the vegetation, while maintaining both hands on your rifle. Compared to high ready punching vegetation often gets hung up on horizontal branches that would otherwise have been knocked away in low ready. 3: When moving to cover and i intend on a left handed shot on arrival, its far easier to prepare the switch from low ready than it is with high ready, try it and you'll see what i mean. 4: When visual information is important, such as scanning open areas/defense/low light conditions or solo assault, a minor low ready just enough to see over the top of your equipment, but not far from your sights when you need them, and not a lot of attention grabbing movement when raising the barrel, is useful for when you need to react to a potential target while maintaining good horizontal vision.
@timmyneutron2995
@timmyneutron2995 4 жыл бұрын
Ive been preaching this for years. Too bad regular army guys can’t and won’t adopt this. The time I implemented this my team crushed the simulation and the only thing the commander cared about was how the weapons weren’t at the low ready. Completely disregard the smoothest and fasting time in the company.
@blcouch
@blcouch 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Great info!!!! It’s kind of crazy that the Army constrained their tactics to accommodate observers on overhead catwalks.
@jamesturpin9091
@jamesturpin9091 4 жыл бұрын
Had a ranger explain that her preferred low ready because it gave him more control to use his weapon as a ram if anyone tried tackling him or was behind the door.
@miletello1
@miletello1 4 жыл бұрын
Conventional units still do this. Pisses me off.
@Lugghandle
@Lugghandle 4 жыл бұрын
Yup theres always a dumb excuse why some higher up wants to change how they are doing things. I don't know how many times they wanted to change how we conducted a simple obstacle breach just because some officer said so. One of the small reasons I've gotten out.
@shittyG1
@shittyG1 4 жыл бұрын
buncha big smart college boy commanders that really aren't all that big and smart
@Legatus2kx
@Legatus2kx 4 жыл бұрын
Different units, different SOP's. Fucks up everyone in the end if we aren't in the same page, and on the same coloring book.
@MrNuggin
@MrNuggin 4 жыл бұрын
great content guys - props and greetings from Poland. Mike if possible could you cover the footwork in your videos - was really a treat for me watching slo moes here, but I see a whole universe of practical knowledge to get in this area. cheers
@PBSviaPNW
@PBSviaPNW 3 жыл бұрын
These two make an awesome pair, great chemistry for KZbin, entertaining, informative and give and take
@baybornbalkanbaby7277
@baybornbalkanbaby7277 3 жыл бұрын
Watching both of their muzzle awareness is a good to watch
@mjd.136
@mjd.136 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha to have a navy seal in front instead of behind I’m dead 😂😂😂😂😂
@dtru31
@dtru31 4 жыл бұрын
Navy SEALs > Green Berets That’s just the facts bro 🤷‍♂️
@kennethwilson7315
@kennethwilson7315 4 жыл бұрын
Only consideration I was ever presented was multiple elements clearing multiple floors simultaneously. No high ready if you’re below a friendly element and no low ready if above a friendly element. Low ready preferred if doing top down insertion such as breaching the roof with a silhouette charge and leaving friendly forces above to secure the roof. Those considerations pretty much parallel the idea of having friendly forces above similar to instructors on the catwalk. Low ready also makes sense moving down stairs. Actually stacking up and breaching the doorway, it really didn’t bother me sliding the stock over or under my shoulder as the #1 man. Anywhere else in the stack though, I absolutely preferred high ready. So, with just those few caveats, I’m in agreement with everything said and also tip my hat to two men with more experience than I have. It’s all just situation and mission dictated making both worth training.
@kennethwilson7315
@kennethwilson7315 4 жыл бұрын
@Iam Impossibru are you familiar with the 5th principle of patrolling? If not, look it up.
@kennethwilson7315
@kennethwilson7315 3 жыл бұрын
@Iam Impossibru common sense has everything to do with your question, but I guess if it were common, it’d just be called sense. If you want it broken down Barney style though, odds are that you won’t see a building with more than 2 or maybe 3 stories. It’s also unlikely to have more than 2 elements clearing one building at once. However, let’s assume this hostage rescue from a skyscraper situation you’ve presented exists where for whatever reason you actually need to hit more than 2 floors at once. The common sense factor is no one should be entering a building in the first place if they haven’t been trained on trigger finger/safety manipulation discipline. Common sense says that you don’t point your fucking weapon at the friendly right in front of you. But when considering angles from which to shoot an enemy, yeah you do want to keep your muzzle more or less level if there are friendly elements above and below you. It’s also a 4th principle of patrolling issue where there needs to be adequate command and control of all elements before attempting the operation. What you’re talking about probably isn’t happening without at least a company level command with a 3-squad platoon sending a squad to each floor while other platoons secure the outside of the building. Staying on line and managing sectors of fire are neither uniquely horizontal nor static concepts. They CAN also apply vertically and dynamically. Call them “limits of advance” or “points of domination”, I don’t really care. You use them to control speed and position of elements relative to each other. Again, common sense dictates that layout/floor plan as well as building materials can force adaptation. If you’re only dealing with 3 teams, it’s probably not wise to split them up onto 3 different floors. I suppose I should define a team as a 4-man element and a squad as a 2-team + SL element here. If you’re running 6-man teams and 3-team squads, you can get away with dropping people from teams to maintain control of the stairwell in the same sense that you can use 3 4-man teams to clear while a 4th team secures the stairwell. Then again, maybe stuff like that isn’t common sense if you haven’t spent much time training or actually clearing structures. Maybe it’s not common knowledge that the best laid plans are just a basis for adaptation after the first shots are fired because in combat things don’t typically go according to plan. I also thought it was common sense that there are “exceptions to every rule”. I guess there’s always one jackass though. Somehow, you managed to take a concept on how to keep your muzzle oriented in a safe direction for friendly forces, forget other safe practices in place, and come to the conclusion that it meant pointing your weapon in a direction you know to be unsafe is a viable alternative to pointing it in a direction that is at least “safer” because of a barrier. This is the reason we had to train to the lowest common denominator. This is the reason we couldn’t have nice things.
@road_king_dude
@road_king_dude 4 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this!!
@TwentytenS4B8
@TwentytenS4B8 4 жыл бұрын
I learned something watching this. First, if either Green Berets or Navy Seals are entering your position, you're fucked. Second, clobbering the threat in the forehead with the muzzle of the carbine was something I never thought of.
@tiko4337
@tiko4337 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing more beautiful then watching smooth entry work. People have no Idea how hard it is for something that looks so simple. Thank you for your service gentlemen.
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