A guide to Super Junior OT10 - 2021 (a little bit crack)

Let’s see how much do I really know about Super Junior. A guide to Super Junior OT10 - 2021 is very informative and hilarious!
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This guide video is the start to the new throwback series on Super Junior!
SUPER JUNIOR 슈퍼주니어 is a kpop group that consists of 10 members: Leeteuk, Heechul, Yesung, Shindong, Sungmin, Eunhyuk, Siwon, Donghae, Ryeowook, and Kyuhyun. They are under SM Entertainment, SJ Label.
Super Junior has some songs that are considered classics in kpop such as: Sorry, Sorry, Mr. Simple, Black Suit, Lo Siento, One More Time (Otra Vez), Burn The Floor, 2YA2YAO!, SUPER Clap, I Think I, The Crown, House Party, Burn The Floor, and more. Their discography is incredible filled with many songs that any kpop fan will recognize.
SUPER JUNIOR 슈퍼주니어 recently had their comeback. Their song 'Mango' is the title track to their 11th mini album ‘The Road: Keep on Going” - The 11th album Vol.1. The album includes the songs: Mango (title track), Don’t Wait, My Wish, Everyday, and Always.
I hope you enjoyed this guide to SUPER JUNIOR 슈퍼주니어. Hopefully it wasn’t unhelpful, I think this guide was super informative of the group.
-EliMarie
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[@charliebear154]

Regarding the Sungmin situation 34:52 Sungmin decided to get married without consulting anyone in Super Junior, especially Leeteuk, and at the time Leeteuk was having to deal with the fact that his own father had just murdered his grandparents and killed himself. While the other Super Junior members were taking care of Leeteuk and supporting him, Sungmin was off planning a wedding he didn’t tell anyone about. He had kept even the engagement a complete secret from everyone. That’s why people wanted him to leave Super Junior. It was a selfish decision. I’ve been an ELF for 15 years, and this whole situation broke all of our hearts. It was more than just people being mad that he was getting married. We would have been happy for him to get married, had he not planned it in secret and chose his wedding over supporting his leader who was going through the worst time in his life. He chose his random kept-secret-until-the-day-of-wedding, over being there with his members for his leader. He completely betrayed the other members AND the fans. ELF have had a lot of heartbreak over the years since debut with members leaving, but the Sungmin one hurt the most. A lot of us loved him. Hope this helps clear things up ❤️

[@giraffes86]

Thank you for writing this I was going to a lot people don’t know what leeteuk went through during that year. I’m happy sungmin found love but I think he should have held off the wedding for just a little bit

[@Alice-zt4sc]

Another funfact about Ryeowook, he's actually pitch perfect and majored in classical music 🤩

[@andiraa4]

Yesss 🔥🔥🔥

[@AdheFauzank]

There are quite a lot of Super Junior units too

[@aayushi1381]

kyuhyun has done phantom of the opera actually, he's sooooo good!! my favorite musical clips from him are actually frankenstein, his voice is amazing

[@catherinemonast3711]

It was not the Andrew Lloyd Webber's version of the phantom. it was Maury Yeston's version of Phantom. Same-ish story but not the same cultural impact.

[@gesellegranados]

They are going to LA soon! On Kamp Los Angeles!💙

[@ahgacababeumetiny-Lshawol]

I happen to come scross your channel late but thank you for showing love to our Suju , yes ELF is one of the cutest name to exist ever . I appreciate your efforts and appreciation for suju , we ELF always are happy to have interest in our boys (they are still boys for me ) as any SM group , superjunior has went through a lot and though there are 10 members now but in our heart and all the original members are still part of suju and are still close . Lastly nope, SM has still not learnt it's lesson .

[@myheart1214]

With Heechul and not being able to step on the platform, Donghae actually called him. He said “Heechul-hyung” with his mic. But Heechul was already mentally somewhere else. lol

[@akita.o6922]

Ryeowook keep his promise to be the first member to get married😭😭🥲

[@OMGitsSeppie]

Yaaaaas! I'm so excited for a SUJU series! (Also, Eunhyuk is called Anchovy because he is so skinny). If you're going back to debut, you may want to get to know Hangeng and Kibum (members who left the group)

[@EliMarieReacts]

Yea I’ll do my research. I’ve heard about Kibum. But I don’t know much about them

[@rejanecaetano626]

I think your bias is Yesung and your bias wreker is Eunhyuk

[@E.m4769]

they once performed as a band at the SJ-M fan meeting. Siwon Bass Sungmin Guitar Ryeowook Piano Eunhyuk Drum Henry violin Check this out kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWHCaWx4qr2pgZI kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5yzkn1_oNeraJI Sorry. I'm not good in english 🙏😊

[@deesonelf2680]

Leeteuk in real life is a really discipline leader and have a different vibes with Leeteuk on TV, thats what the members said and even Kyuhyun who doesnt scared to any of his hyungs said that he afraid and respect Leeteuk the most

[@cecilelpt5808]

the other members also can play instruments

[@pearlsapphireblueelf]

I love the reaction!! Looking forward to more Super Junior content!! BTW, all of them play the piano. Most of them play around 3 instruments. They're all very talented 💙

[@EliMarieReacts]

Super Junior could’ve had a band sub unit! I want to see them all perform with instruments even if it’s just for one song

[@cecilelpt5808]

@@EliMarieReacts they did if i'm not mistaking, with sungmin at the guitar, eunhyuk at the drum and henry at the violin

[@allinonechrista]

Thank you so much for making this video! I have been a fan of Super Junior since 2012 and they are still my favorite boy group today! While some of the members have done stuff I don't agree with, I respect them for still being in the industry and achieving their dreams despite all that they have been through. I also respect their talent - I truly believe that Kyuhyun, Ryeowook, and Yesung are some of the best male vocalists in Kpop, if not THE best. Ryeowook's voice is my absolute favorite! If I had to guess, your bias is Donghae and your bias wrecker is Eunhyuk! My bias is Ryeowook and my bias wrecker is Sungmin, along with Leeteuk. Sungmin seriously needs to perform with the group again. Being married isn't a sin and I'm sure there are plenty of other fans that want to see him performing with the group again. I miss hearing his voice in SJ songs. Thanks again for making this video! I'm a new subscriber to your channel and you are already my favorite reaction channel! I hope you are happy and healthy❤️

[@EliMarieReacts]

Thank you for subscribing! I also agree with you I want Sungmin to perform with the guys again. Also I like what you said about respecting them. They’ve gone through so much and they’re still in the industry. It shows SUJU’s strength as a team and who they are. I have lots of respect for them too

[@GDxYS]

Time to invite more people to this Circus Royale

[@atheera8507]

ah I think your bias is Eunhyuk and your bias wrecker ether Yesung or Ryeowook

[@cecilelpt5808]

me seeing your video: :ooooooo *applause in anticipation for no reason*

[@EliMarieReacts]

Thank you! 😂

[@myheart1214]

The Chinese sub-units are for promotions in China. Super Junior-M was very successful there. The only reason why they went on hiatus is because of the growing tension between Korea and China. Kpop idols were banned from promoting in China. In fact, Super Junior has never had a Super Show in China since SS6 in 2015. About a couple years ago, Korean idols were banned to use China’s social media Weibo. Only recently were they able to do fan signing events and were allowed to use Weibo again. SJ-M was the most successful SJ sub-unit until D&E surpassed them having a similar concept and still being active.

[@Suju1106]

Now Ryeowook announced that he will marry in May~

[@kyuudere13]

Kyuhyun did Phantom though it's not the Andrew Lloyd Webber version. It's the Yeston-Kopit version which was also based on Phantom of the Opera novel. Here is the trailer for the musical film and it is currently being shown/to be shown around Asia and in the US/Canada: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHrHn4yNe9aeapI kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGO6aWyco5msldE

[@kkhshout573]

Omg thank you so much for this dedicated reaction!! My Suju boys are always so underrated nowadays, glad you are checking them out properly 😭😍

[@CiociaDonia]

Thanks for your reaction to SuJu!!! Up for Super Junior Rock Band with Yesung as vocalist!!!

[@Xuchan1108]

On the surface they seem to be happy and dorky but there are some underlying stories about them. Like the horrible accidents of Heechul or Leeteuk, Kyuhyun. The really low self-esteem of Yesung make him updating SNS all day and did extreme diet because he is scared that fans will forget him. Many of them faced bodyshaming like Shindong, Yesung, Eunhyuk but Shindong, Eunhyuk use it as a charm of them. All Korean idols have issues that they don't share with audience, some are really questionable in other countries but reasonable in Korea like their beauty standard. That's why as a Kpop fan, I try not to send hate or to hate other Kpop groups. If I don't like a group, I will ignore and never search for them.

[@myheart1214]

Shirt, the song you said you really liked and has the “Girl, you’re tasty” lyrics was composed and written by Donghae and his friends. It was supposed to be the title tracked but was changed at the last minute. Shindong and Eunhyuk choreographed it but they think it was the choreography that was the reason it was changed. They were probably planning on a title track that was composed and choreographed by them.

[@S_S5460]

Your bias and bias-wrecker could be yesung and eunhyuk but honesty with suju everyone might eventually become a bias-wrecker lol. I love Angel's Wing too! Theyre going to LA for KAMP and i hope they have super shows in the US too :)

[@gesellegranados]

Yes. Kyuhyun did Phantom of the Opera!

[@bandotaku]

Whoo, yes! So excited you are doing SJ for this series! Glad that you also started things off with a guide and that you learned some new things about them. Looking forward to the next part! Kyuhyun did play the Phantom in the musical "Phantom," but it's not Andrew Lloyd Webber's version, it's a whole different musical based on the same book. Still a really awesome performance and one of his best. You should totally check it out and other performances too.

[@laurenh6668]

Love that you did this guide, it's the best members one in my opinion! Leeteuk is my bias with Kyuhun hot on his heels. Leeteuk has just been through so much professionally and personally and I respect the hell out of him!... Also that dimple is dreamy 😅 I so wish Heechul and Kyu started a Twice cover dance band too, but probably not gonna happen since Heechul and Momo broke up 😆. And what a great idea, they soooo should've done a sub unit where they were a rock band playing instruments. This only mentioned a few members' ability but the whole of SuJu pretty much play instruments, so talented! Looking forward to the deep dive.

[@atheera8507]

thank you for this reaction.. you should react to SUPER JUNIOR as MUSICIANS (Part 1) kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3_NYnd-druGiaM SUPER JUNIOR as MUSICIANS (Part 2) kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYLNiGSImrJpbas I can't wait to see your reaction on the other members playing instruments

[@EliMarieReacts]

I’ll check it out thank you!

[@Gozyugerblue]

@@EliMarieReacts did you hear kangin left super junior

[@wahyukristia3549]

feels like I have my whole ELF family by reading the comment column,. also I really thankful that our SUJU still healthy and active for theif ELF like me and u all :)

[@miamore8400]

i will be guessing that Eunhyuk is your biased and Donghae or Yesung will be your bias wrecker but it's elf struggle coz every one of them is a bias wrecker... Anchovy because he's always skinny... thank you for loving and reacting Suju, waiting for more 💙💙💙

[@q-noonkade4115]

...but super glad that after military, Eunhyuk is not that skinny anymore..he's thicker 💯👌😘😍😍

[@15abanana]

Kyuhyun has done Phantom. If I remember correctly they recorded the musical and showed it on some cities of usa this year, as part of a festival.

[@EliMarieReacts]

I’ll check it out 😄

[@fefi151]

Lo que muchos esperábamos, gracias por ser tan genuina 😊🍂🍁✨

[@iloveheechul28]

Thank you for starting super junior throwback series!💙 i needed their choas to give me a pick me up💙🥺 cant wait to see our other videos coming out💙 love ur reaction to this video💙 i will be going to super show 9 in 2 weeks time💙 i love heechul's drum performance always 💙💙

[@EliMarieReacts]

Thank you for watching! Enjoy their Super Show!! 😄💙

[@jossiem1625]

This is something I didnt know I need it, loved it 🤣🤣🤗🤗💙💙 and I'm so happy to know that you will be having a SJ series, can't wait for it and yes girl there are a lot of things to discover about SJ, they have 17 years of content lol Oh Super Tv and SJ returns yasss you are going to love those shows, they are amazing and hilarious, I think I'm gonna have to save some money for your Patreon cuz yeah I would love for you to react to those shows. Now sorry if this turns out to be a long comment but I want to give you the answers to some of the things you asked and that I remember lol Regarding the Sub-units, SJ has 5 Sub-units: KRY, Super Junior T (the T stands for Trot, which is the name of a genre of Korean music) focused on singing Trot songs, this sub-unit gave us the song Rokkugo, which is like a classic song from SJ and most of the fandom loves that song and they sing it most of the time on their shows. There is also Super Junior H, this sub-unit was more focused on singing like happy and a bit childish songs lol, then we have Super Junior M and D&E, 5 total, but Super Junior T, H and M have been inactive for several years and we only have left KRY and D&E. I never thought of them having a sub-unit that was actually a band but yeah it could have been possible cuz yeah most of them play instruments, I've seen Leeteuk playing the piano and he can also play the Saxophone, Sungmin also played the guitar, Siwon played the drums as well, they have mostly done it on their SS shows, and Donghae can also play the piano and guitar, oh these multitalented men.

[@jossiem1625]

I figured it might be better to post the rest on another comment lol So since you mentioned Phantom of the Opera, well let me tell you that Kyu did that musical. It was even made into a film, yes they recorded the musical and a few weeks ago it was announced that it was going to be played in some movie theaters in several countries, including the US, in some theaters in LA if I remember correctly. Speaking of LA, they announced a few days ago that they will be performing in LA on October 15&16, at a Kpop festival/show, there will be other Kpop groups performing as well and also I would advise you to keep an eye on their sns because they would probably go to the US with their SS9. They mentioned at their comeback press conference several countries and places like Europe, the US and Latinoamerica where they want to return with the SS9, but this might happen at the end of this year or beginning of next one, so yeah keep an eye on that!

[@EliMarieReacts]

I really want to see them live. And thank you for the extra info! Suju are definitely multitalented. There’s so much to learn about them

[@jossiem1625]

@@EliMarieReacts yes there is, I'm still discovering and learning things about them!!

[@amethystyip]

I guess your bias is Siwon lol. About Sungmin, fans don’t like him not because of him getting married, but the way he handled this and the timing were not good at that time. You may study more about that.

[@sjhk3443]

So much fun 😂, okay let me guess... Bias is Eunhyuk, Bias wrecker must be Donghae 🤔 I think for the series mid week is gonna be great ... exited ^^

[@Aesong15]

If you want to see them live, they are coming to LA this Oct 15 at kamp fesitval. That's also Donghae's bday

[@infosjperu]

me gusta ver cuando reaccionan a SJ es que es tan maravilloso este grupooo que merece mas personas reconozcan su trayectoria y de la importancia que tienen en esta industria graciasss por tu reaccion :3

[@jossiem1625]

Since you also mentioned the SS shows, I was thinking that maybe you can react to their shows, all of them, from SS 1 - 8 are here on yt, some fans uploaded the shows, so yeah you can see and enjoy how their shows were back then, it would be great to see you react to them. Just search here on yt something like "Super Show 1 full show" and you will find it and the others as well, or if you want to I can share the links with you!! 💙💙

[@EliMarieReacts]

That would be so fun to watch! I’ll add it to my list

[@272Iman]

Angles wing is my fav from rw album too!!!😍😍😍

[@EliMarieReacts]

Yay! I’m obsessed with that song. I wish more people would listen to it

[@xnatthaxsub]

Thank you for reacting to our Suju💙💙💙

[@EliMarieReacts]

😄💙

[@roulaalkhawam3521]

Thank you Please react on cooking and pejam party to Super juniorH Its so funny And so many beautiful song for Super junior M (Blue Tomorrow,Breaking down and super girl

[@EliMarieReacts]

I’ll definitely check those out

[@estrellaxdonghae]

I was just going to tell you that you had to react to sorry sorry answer and you just uploaded it 🤭💙

[@janstaz]

I would love them to come to England.

[@senahimiku]

-They have a total of 5 sub-units but Super Junior K.R.Y and D&E are the most active sub-unit. -The way you pronounce Zhoumi's name is "Choumi" -some K-ELFs never accepts Zhoumi and Henry as official members of Super Junior and only sees them as 13 members but Internal ELFs always sees that Zhoumi and Henry are officially part of Super Junior and sees Super Junior as 13 members

[@luluoc269]

Your nails are SuJu Colour 💙💙💙 I love it

[@cz3071]

not gonna lie your reaction videos are one of the best i've seen so far! and yes Kyuhyun has done musical for Phantom of the Opera, there's actually a screening of it across the US and Canada though i'm not sure if it's still up

[@heny2wish252]

Heechul oppa is my bias, i love him so much.. ❤❤

[@centauri6098]

Eunhyuk, donghae, and siwon is the same age. They born in 1986.

[@amethystyip]

If you want to know what instruments SJ members can play, you should watch the performance SM members did, you could search SMTOWN the sound of hanlyu at SBS music festival 20111229

[@don555551]

Haha yes heechul plays drums, check some of their concert or maybe check out KCON 2015 LA, for me that was the best drums performance of heechul did for sorry sorry.

[@GDxYS]

Yesung has a youtube channel now 🥰

[@sanookncg5657]

I normally watch super show outside korea but this year I manage to go to SS9 in Seoul \\... But no Hee Chul my bias

[@hoyanfredericaleung5045]

I am slightly sad that Sungmin doesnt participate in Suju anymore. But this is one of the time that I actually understand the fans. you need to dig deep into the situation to know what really happened and how disappointed he made the fans. Don't get me wrong, I do miss him sometimes when I watch old videos of suju, but at the same time I dont think fans are nonsense with this incident as well... Complicated

[@hopejohnson6389]

Can you tell me more about the situation? I'm really curious to hear a different perspective. I just heard he got married and didn't tell the fans, that's why they got mad (and because he got married in overall...). And I thought that was ridiculous, because they have no right to demand that he tells them about his private life, especially when you consider how some of them act when their bias gets married. It's cruel.

[@hoyanfredericaleung5045]

first off, fans already knew they were dating before it became official, some fans begged him to date secretly so it wont bring any bad influence to suju, he deleted the comments and block the fans. Then went dating in public then got caught by some media and then get reported to public. Secondly, he used some accesories that fans gave him as couple items with his wife, girlfriend back then which is also pretty disrespectful to fans. Third, 2014 was a really important year for suju. itsw because the mamacita album was the first album in two years after leetuek discharged from army, its also the last album before most members enlisted. Sungmin didnt care about nothing. He announced that he is getting married just one week before the album cae out which brought lots of negative influence to the team. Not just that, Sungmin insists on having the wedding on Dec 13th even though SM and members discussed with him and told him its not a good idea just becaue of the reason that he wanted to get married with his wife on the date they first met. The reason why SM and members disagree was because they were in the middle of Japan concert tour during the time. because of Sungmin's wedding, they had to went back to South Korean the day before, attend the wedding and fly back to Japan the next day for concert. Sungmin went directly to honeymoon and skipped the rest of the concerts... These are some of the big reasons i can think of now, and you can decide on your own and see if fans have the rights to be mad this paricular time.@@hopejohnson6389

[@hoyanfredericaleung5045]

oh, he also said that he will have a low profile wedding, friends and family only. But he got wedding dress sponser using super junior's name, so all his wedding information was disclosed anyway. Moreover, He announced the wedding invitation ON the day that Kyuhyun released his first solo album. He admited his dating with his wife the day before Donghae's birthday. Do you think he has taken his member's feeling into consideration...? When suju went to radio broadcast for promotion, he sent text to the radio using his phone to have the host wish his girlfriend happy birthday... etc etc@@hopejohnson6389

[@hopejohnson6389]

@@hoyanfredericaleung5045 Alright, thank you for your answer! I didn't know all of this. I still don't think the hate he got was reasonable (and I think hating someone in overall is stupid except they did something really bad) but he could definitely handeled it better and I now get why some fans were not happy with the situation. Thanks a lot for showing me a different perspective :)

[@josefinavarelam]

Hi! 💙 loved your video! SuJu is still my ult (alongside EXO), they introduced me to kpop in 2012 and I’ve been an ELF ever since! I just recently became fully aware of their problematic behavior, and the indefendible things they have done, so I never and will never defend those behaviors and some of their beliefs that I don’t share. I know that the “trend” of hating on them and hoping for their disband comes mostly from the western public, so that being said, I just wanted to say that I am grateful for your content and how you showed respect towards them, I think they deserve respect as artists and for their long ass career. They need to be held accountable yes, and as their fans it’s our duty to do that with respect, but I don’t think cancellation it’s gonna help them grow as people. This video was touching bc it’s rare for me to see good/respectful content of them nowadays from western creators/kpop fans (assuming that you are American or Canadian 🤍 English is not my first language) So again, thank you 💙 I hope SJ can keep growing and I wish for their career to keep lasting! Love from Chile 🇨🇱

[@annejia5382]

Super Show 9 is ongoing btw 💙

[@pizzapie7110]

Please don't miss SJ Returns😅

[@kyul0vers95]

The situation with Sungmin is not a simple one. Its not the fact that Sungmin got married, but the way he handle the situation. He got married in the middle of album promotion, and this halt the entire promotion after that. "Fans are jealous" - Sungmin k-fanclub already known about his relationship for a long time. They also know the supposed date, and has been in talk with Sungmin to change the date for more appropriate time. I believe Sungmin denied at first, so the sudden announcement was like a backstab for the fanclub. At that time, ELF are really open for them to get married, as you can see with Leeteuk, Eunhyuk, Heechul WGM Show. Shindong also declare to being in serious relationship. Its not that ELF are opposed for SJ to get married, but the circumstance at that time is not in Sungmin favors. Its been almost 9 years, and i believe that Sungmin has every right to comeback with SJ. But he no longer has strong fanbase/fanclub in Korea apparently

[@SophieSon]

Extraño a Súper Junior T

[@TheAwkRobot1997]

I got into a fight with a Korean fan on twitter about how it was dumb that they don't want Sungmin back in the group just because he got married. And, I shit you not, this girl said they're still mad at him because, "he didn't apologize for getting married". I hate these fans who think these idols lives belong to them, just like the people who aren't supporting Chen and want him to leave EXO, when this man has two children already. It's so dumb.

[@champa9ne]

Actually the reasons Kelfs and Celfs are mad at him was not because he got married. There are a lot more stories and reasons behind their anger. Kelfs boycotting Sungmin bcoz he's married is the most misunderstood thing for International elfs. It's difficult for me to list all the reasons down because it's a long list due to a series of events, there is a Chinese video explaining everything and it already takes 5-6mins. I've nothing against him since I'm a new elf, but the reasons for the older elfs feeling angry and heartbroken are valid imo.... Just saying... I'm not against him coming back to the group though

[@gigiiv]

My understanding is that it had to do with how his marriage happened. Wanting him to apologize for causing misunderstandings around that isn't unreasonable. He may have already done that, it's not a situation I ever followed closely.

[@champa9ne]

@@gigiiv That was just partial reason that made fans feel disappointed but probably not to the extent of feeling angry and boycotting him almost unanimously. It's a series of events that he and wife did, that built up the eventual huge anger. He enlisted without doing any explanation or apologize, it was the other members who kept apologizing to fans on his behalf, how ironic. He finally wrote an apology letter when he discharged from army, but that was already 2 years later, everyone has moved on and happily settled with the current 9 members.

[@suju951]

now yeye (its yesung just incase you didnt know) created youtube

[@joewita5789]

do you live in USA? they will perform in LA on october

[@asroulhasibin2473]

please react too. Super Junior M -supergirl -perfection -swing -go

[@annejia5382]

sm with their divorced-like singers like yesung and taeyeon 😭

[@estrellaxdonghae]

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[@superjuniorsuperelf836]

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[@KAMi-ph7em]

Actually the problem about Sungmin is not that he married. The fans wouldn't be so mad about him if he just married, so please understand that. SUJU members are also very mad about Sungmin and none of the members follow Sungmin's SNS even though they follow the other members left out such as Kangin

[@champa9ne]

Yes... it's the most misunderstood thing for international elfs... But Sungmin and Kangin was with Eunhyuk when his father passed away since the other boys were still in Philippines. They are still brothers afterall.

[@ECM24]

this is inaccurate. they are still close with him (he was there, comforting Eunhyuk after Honey Appa passed). they just don't follow him or publicly speak about him because K-ELF will attack (case in point: Heechul mentioned Sungmin in Bubble, and a Korean fan sent him an angry message.) there is NO bad blood. it IS about the marriage. stop gaslighting.

[@champa9ne]

@@ECM241) It is not just abt his marriage, but I understand u dun know the details and it's difficult to explain everything here 2) they were not really close, everyone follow Kangin and Kibum except Sungmin. And Sungmin was still telling lies in 2021 which made k-netizens angry. Not just kelfs but even knetizens knew what he said was lies. 3) Sungmin was there to support Eunhyuk at his lowest moment esp when the boys were not in korea, close or not, it is the right thing to do as brother. I agree there shouldn't be bad blood among them. Whoever sent hate msg abt this to HC was/were out of her/their mind. It's not their place. But the hate of Sungmin is NOT bcoz of his marriage but how he handled it, before and after, even 2021. Btw, I'm quite a new elf so I've nothing against Sungmin, but the reasons why Kelfs were mad are valid imo

[@KAMi-ph7em]

@@champa9ne I know that Sungmin and Kangin were with Eunhyuk and that some ELFS attacked Heechul(I think that’s a sad thing). I’m sad that there are ELFs who don’t know what k-elfs and j-elfs were angry about and attacking k-&j-elf’s. I know there are differences between the understanding of what idol is, and I know it’s difficult to understand each other

[@champa9ne]

@@KAMi-ph7em Oh I didn't know J-elfs are angry too, I do know majority of taiwanese elfs are still very very mad at him

[@superjuniorsuperelf836]

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