You call this a history of Frasier on Cheers, but it feels much more like a history of Cheers through the eyes of Frasier... and I'm all the more here for it.
@BMask Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear- that's a great way to put how I approached it, too!
@blairnichols5919 Жыл бұрын
@@BMask😅
@pollypurree183411 ай бұрын
I despised Cheers but really liked the show Frasier
@SovereignStatesman4 ай бұрын
Well I’m pretty sure Fraser is a spin off of Cheers, so an in-depth look at the character requires uncovering those roots.
@LongSinceDead14 ай бұрын
@@pollypurree1834 Cheers slaps though. How can anyone hate it so much?
@RoeLuv1 Жыл бұрын
Seeing Nancy Cartwright on Cheers with Kelsey, knowing years later they’d be on screen together as Bart Simpson & Sideshow Bob was Amazing!!!
@zapkvr Жыл бұрын
And only one of them is a sciencologist wacko
@G_FRE6 ай бұрын
@@zapkvr That's life
@Lynmaru_ Жыл бұрын
Two and a half hour long essay on a character from a sitcom older than myself than I've never watched? Yes please, and thank you
@LongSinceDead1 Жыл бұрын
You should watch Frasier. And Cheers too:
@zainmudassir2964 Жыл бұрын
Wow same
@Sunny_Haven Жыл бұрын
helllll yeah
@crytkryssus9851 Жыл бұрын
I haven't watched Cheers, but grew up as a kid watching Frasier. Rewatched it recently with my wife, and it is still great.
@Sig509 Жыл бұрын
Do yourself a favour, and watch Frasier. Cheers could be a hit, or miss with you, but also woth trying. Don't get me wrong, I liked that show, and especially episodes with Frasier, and later Lilith , but it is a different kind of a show, and for example Diane may irritate you etc. And Frasier shows up there in season 3, gradually being more visible, as he was so likeable. There are other nice characters, like the Norm and Clif duo, but as I said, it can be hit or miss, while Frasier is a "safer" choice. It is not only one of the best comedy shows ever, but also very even for all of these years (even though I am not a particular fan of Daphne and the Moons saga, especially in the last seasons). Always well wrritten, and witty.
@Sunshine_day Жыл бұрын
I had forgotten that Fraiser had told everyone on Cheers that his father had died. Now, that brings more meaning to Freddy, telling his work colleagues that his father was dead on the reboot.
@joevictor537 ай бұрын
That made me laugh when they had it come around again
@Jackfromshack5 ай бұрын
Ot has reboot?
@Fayerty3 ай бұрын
@@Jackfromshackyessir! In paramount plus, but it isn’t as funny as the OG Frasier.
@TheDanishGuyReviews Жыл бұрын
Watching only Frasier, I didn't understand the "striking resemblance" David Hyde Pierce was supposed to have to his on-screen brother. But seeing what Kelsey Grammer looked like during Cheers made me finally get it.
@aredub1847 Жыл бұрын
sam wasnt exactly running a health club.
@computer_toucher Жыл бұрын
As someone who grew up with Cheers, it was magical casting :)
@Woodman-Spare-that-tree Жыл бұрын
Trouble is, that David Hyde Pierce was half Frasier’s size.
@rachelgrubman4606 Жыл бұрын
@@Woodman-Spare-that-treebut that happens sometimes in real life it happened with me and my sisters. We look alike but I’m much shorter
@JenniferDaniels909 Жыл бұрын
@@aredub1847lol I watched that episode of Frazier within the last week or so
@CCXXI Жыл бұрын
I'm struck by a line Frasier says in the "Cheerful Goodbyes" episode: these people were there for me when I needed friends most. Excellent overview. Thanks so much for it.
@catfoot13 Жыл бұрын
"She challenged his chauvinism, he was mad he couldn't spell that" Always love the writing in your videos. Keep up the good work B-Mask!
@SpiralSine6 Жыл бұрын
“You were never in love _with_ her, you were in love _at_ her.” … god damn this hit me like a sack of bricks. Maybe I should watch Frasier.
@BrokamaGay11 ай бұрын
Do, and report back with your thoughts.
@JesseHenderson-xc2kg6 ай бұрын
8 months after finishing Frasier....i somehow found myself living in Seattle. Not saying they are connected but I am also not denying it.
@MrAweeze4 ай бұрын
Theres gotta be a "cafe Nervosa" somewhere in the city by now@JesseHenderson-xc2kg
@henryapplebottom7231Ай бұрын
Girl, me for real.
@Slice2099 Жыл бұрын
Frasier Crane is special, one of the most iconic TV characters of all time he’s like the Saul Goodman of the universe. The fact that we were able to see him Young become middle age and now older is crazy the past 40 years of this character.
@petegregory517 Жыл бұрын
Niles crack’s me up. Still watch 2 hours practically every night. Perfectly cast show.
@heartnet40 Жыл бұрын
A lot of people say that they can talk about their favorite characters for hours, but only B-Mask can nut-up and put it to video. I can only imagine the amount of script left on the cutting room floor with this one. Can't wait to be floored by this thing.
@chelktty Жыл бұрын
This video really dives deep. Effortlessly entertaining and informative.
@miaknig3130 Жыл бұрын
My grandmother got me hooked on Frazier. I had only heard of cheers, but not the other shows mentioned. This was so enlightening for me, ty! 😊
@flyhyland9 ай бұрын
1:22:02 You didn't mention it but you probably know that this line was improvised by Woody when he saw the bottle drop on Kelsey's foot. Amazing that Kelsey maintained his composure despite clearly being hurt and just went along with it lol.
@BMask9 ай бұрын
Essentially implied it was improv'd in the video- Kelsey carrying the ball like that was masterful!
@idimation5579 Жыл бұрын
A 2 1/2 hour video on Fraiser lore is the exact reason I’m subscribed to this channel.
@SixTwelve-612 Жыл бұрын
As a media junkie, and an older fart, I had the pleasure of going through both series as they aired. And now the pleasure of this video tome. B- Mask, I've never seen anything quite like this and had no idea I'd been waiting for it. Brother, you can compose. Bravo.
@gorcshurut4934 Жыл бұрын
As a Hungarian man, I'm not at all familiar with either Cheers, or Frasier. But gosh darn, BMask could talk about a bucket full of bile for all I care, I could watch it for 2 and a half hours.
@myoak108 Жыл бұрын
This video made me start watching Frasier, I'd never seen it before ever. I stopped it around 40 minutes in and have been on a binge since like 2 days ago. You're doing god's work.
@michaelking7847 Жыл бұрын
Literally just got done showing my girlfriend Frasier for the first time. It went over great, and when she went home it left me in the mood for more, but without wanting to continue watching without her. And like an angel in a ray of light, b-mask shows up with a 2+ hour video all about it. Hallelujah
@BMask Жыл бұрын
Always glad to be of service
@michaelking7847 Жыл бұрын
You're doing the Lord's work, my friend
@LordMalice6d9 Жыл бұрын
How old are you? Frasier is an old show by now.
@NPCarlsson Жыл бұрын
I really love your editing. It's very inspiring. I think a lot of people assume videos like this are easy to make. You write the script, you record the VO, you put clips in the timeline to match up with it. But, there's more to it than that and I know a lot of thought goes into the pacing and the delivery of the points you make. It's what separates a thoughtless video from a passion project.
@BMask Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much- I know it's not something you can demonstrate to people without them being there, so it means a lot to see someone else in the same game recognising that.
@DissociativeIdentity Жыл бұрын
Great video, and you ended on what I think is the central issue. Frasier needed Cheers at that time of his life as much as anyone in the bar. He came there only at Diane's behest, but in the end, he outlasted her, and found a place where he could cut loose and enjoy himself. I love the scenes where his professional mask slips and he just becomes one of the gang: doo-wopping along to "Duke of Earl", dancing along to "Na Na Hey Hey"; getting caught up in all the gossip and little bar dramas...and of course, breaking down when he sees Dave, the stuffed moose head, brought out of storage after a long hiatus! Kelsey Grammer put so much of himself into the role, making you really feel Frasier's insecurity and need for acceptance, but also showing that beneath the pretentious exterior, there was not only "abundant humanity", but genuine warmth as well. Despite the occasional withering put-down, in not one scene in 11 seasons do I get the sense that Frasier truly considers himself superior to anyone at Cheers, not from a social, cultural, or financial standpoint; on the contrary, he desperately wants to be one of them. If that neediness is what makes him relatable, then his desire to help is what makes him loveable, and so different to the other intellectual Diane was involved with, the self-possessed and odious Sumner Sloan. Whenever Sumner appeared in the show, it was to sow discord and get Diane away from the bar; whereas Frasier, on entering the bar's orbit, comes to embrace Cheers, and becomes its staunchest supporter. Eventually of course, he realises he has spent too much time there, as he admits to Lilith, using it as an escape from his marital problems. Leaving Boston to make a fresh start was probably the healthiest thing to do. But I also agree with your conclusion that Cheers was what helped Frasier grow as a person, and was probably the first place where he truly felt he belonged. They were his family for that time, and gave him the experience and insight to later repair the rifts with his own relations in Seattle. Never knew Kelsey was feeling too emotional to get his lines out in the final scene. That's heartbreaking.
@BMask Жыл бұрын
Wonderfully put
@DissociativeIdentity Жыл бұрын
@@BMask Thanks! It was a very good essay - edited the comment since I misspelled Grammer's name. Now I feel I need to rewatch Cheers (and Frasier) for the umpteenth time. Not sure if I'm ready though, it's always an emotional commitment coming back to those shows 🥲
@jeffreyjeziorski1480 Жыл бұрын
All I can say after reading that is your depth...frightens me.
@mnvr-pd6wz Жыл бұрын
Frasier is my #1 favourite show yet I’ve never watched a second of Cheers. This video is genuinely brilliant and it only makes me appreciate Frasier so much more. Frasier Crane’s story is one of the greatest in TV history and you portrayed it incredibly well
@Digital_David Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you haven't watched Cheers. You'd probably love it.
@gatormclusky55 Жыл бұрын
Watch Cheers....I mean it's only one of the Best shows ever
@lisab79777 ай бұрын
Same! I’ve never seen Cheers but Frasier is my absolute favorite show!
@SLCandy15 ай бұрын
How would you have an all-time favourite show and yet purposefully choose never to watch a second of the show Frasier spent nine years on? It's like having a favourite album of all-time and by choice choosing not to listen to any earlier albums
@BMask Жыл бұрын
Hey everyone- when this video originally uploaded it was beset by copyright bots that prevented monetisation, with this pinned comment originally explaining the situation, and those have now been officially cleared. I want to thank everyone who donated to support me during that time and for the wonderful comments from everyone who felt the four months of work was worthwhile. Genuinely floored by the response and just hope I can continue to deliver on future projects. 'Cheers' indeed! 🍻 Update: Have also added the video's soundtrack choices in the description, for anyone curious as to what music was used!
@wile123456 Жыл бұрын
Damn if it doesn't work out you should upload it in parts. It sucks to have a 2 hour 30 minute taken down 😢
@bZman Жыл бұрын
So when are we getting a full Fraiser series review?
@CDubya.82 Жыл бұрын
Amazing work 👍
@johnnygoodman2003 Жыл бұрын
I clicked the thumb pick thinking this was about a lost anime cartoon about cheers.
@BMask Жыл бұрын
@@johnnygoodman2003 Imagine
@samuelchard4816 Жыл бұрын
I could listen to this man talk about anything for hours and never lose interest.
@christopherramon-reid2000 Жыл бұрын
If I could give you some sort of award for this is would. The way you’ve documented the evolution of this television character is phenomenal.
@jackbiesty3729 Жыл бұрын
If not an award how about a reward? And I'll just point to his patreon/Ko-Fi in the description.
@kevinczaractual Жыл бұрын
I would watch an extended cut of Frasier: Frontier Psychicatrist on repeat. That is one of the best edited intros I've ever seen. As it stands, I've watched this three times already. Liked, subbed. Keep it up.
@theslakemoth Жыл бұрын
I have never watched an episode of Cheers or Frasier before in my life, and having watched the entirety of this video I feel rather strongly compelled to change this.
@amandaredd3057 Жыл бұрын
I watch a double shot of Cheers every morning while drinking my coffee early af before getting ready for work. It tickles me just as much now as it did when I was a kid
@NeptuneCactus Жыл бұрын
I uh, think I might need to watch Cheers and Frasier after watching this. Had no idea they were genuinely compelling. Awesome video, B-mask!
@UnseenJapan Жыл бұрын
Fraiser really holds up today. Extremly well written, witty, with wonderful characters that change and grow.
@eldonhill4840 Жыл бұрын
Frasier is a fantastic show. Cheers is more hit and miss in my opinion
@TheUnmitigatedDawn Жыл бұрын
@@eldonhill4840 Honestly, Frasier is the hit or miss one. Cheers is consistently great besides Season 11.
@DanJackson1977 Жыл бұрын
They're both great. I prefer Cheers becuse it was more blue collar and had a "hanging out with old friends" kinda feel". Its when Kirstie Alley shows up that... well, it gets dicier.
@stalfithrildi5366 Жыл бұрын
I love Frasier and think Cheers stands up just as well. Definitely worth watching through
@homelessjesse94532 ай бұрын
Cheers is hands down the greatest American sitcom of all time. The writing. The characters. The setting. It's all so cerebral to the very tip of genius.
@the_real_Kurt_Yarish Жыл бұрын
Man's about to make me cry because of a 2 and a half hour long video about two sitcoms I've never seriously invested time in. Bravo.
@ThatZommy7 ай бұрын
youtube finally understands me. gosh, a two and a half hour video essay about Frasier (on cheers), this is the peak
@dragonman011 Жыл бұрын
As someone who never really watched sitcoms growing up, I applaud you for choosing scenes and moments from both Cheers and Frasier that got me howling despite lacking that connection.
@Robert_D_Mercer Жыл бұрын
I was too young for this show, but I remember watching it while there was nothing else on tv. the intro song of fraiser is like a meme now. lol a lot of people vaguely remember the dude and Im 30.
@RandomPlayIist Жыл бұрын
@@Robert_D_Mercer "lol a lot of people vaguely remember the dude..." What on Earth are you talking about, that's not true at all lol.
@Acharmedlife Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen every episode a dozen times while I was recovering from a severe accident. Saved my life. I never saw most of these cheers clips. What fun. Thank you.
@jcboyle82 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love when someone takes a character I’m indifferent about and shares their love of them! It’s so genuine and infectious!
@peteradaniel Жыл бұрын
I cannot hear the theme tune of cheers without being completely overwhelmed with memories of childhood. Damn that show. So good.
@coryreigns7364 Жыл бұрын
Great show
@ellejayn Жыл бұрын
Same here. One of the best tv show themes of all time.
@Faynwulf Жыл бұрын
This is without a doubt one of the best essays I've ever seen on youtube. And it's about a sitcom character. Please more like this.
@dougie3829 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a character analysis of all the characters of the show
@zapkvr Жыл бұрын
HERE HERE. Should have been delivered at the Paley centre with Kelsey in the audience. Afterwards he could host a qanda. Seriously needs to happen.
@Tramatik48 Жыл бұрын
You haven't seen that many essays have you
@DrewSwenson Жыл бұрын
That was PHENOMENAL! My Ex Adored Frasier, and as such I've seen it twice through. After our separation I started Cheers, but never quite made it to Frasier's bits. The sheer amount of Development for him, Lillith and Nanny - G absolutely take things to another level. I now intend to set forth and finish the remaining 9 seasons taking every Frasier Moment to heart... Though I wish I could have shared these moments with her...
@niknokYT Жыл бұрын
I've never watched a second of Cheers nor Frasier, yet I still got thoroughly invested into this. You have an incredible knack for telling the stories of these shows/movies/games/etc, without feeling like you've covered absolutely everything. I can already tell there's tons you never even hinted towards in both of these shows that I still have to discover for myself. It's a real talent. I'm not sure if this is just a "right place at the right time" sort of deal, but this video made me realize things about myself that I'd never quite fully comprehended before, good and bad. Thanks for doing everything you do, B-Mask. Please never stop.
@BMask Жыл бұрын
Greatly appreciate this as it's definitely the balance i'm striving for. Thank you so much!
@keithgriffiths9864 Жыл бұрын
Watch Cheers first in the right order 😊
@ramseyrosario3126 Жыл бұрын
@@BMaskreally really good video, I can agree this was a really great analysis. I loved it
@Aldrius Жыл бұрын
That scene with Frasier sitting there pretending to be an extra is so surreal. I love it. Also it's a shame we didn't get more Coach-Frasier scenes. Also shocked we never got any Nancy Marchand in Frasier, but by the time they did Don Juan in hell she was likely in poor health.
@evanphillips2126 Жыл бұрын
I really love that Nancy got to play two TV mothers who ruined their son’s lives
@evilherodiamondcat Жыл бұрын
What do you mean? In Frasier lore she died before the series started. Why would she make an appearance?
@Aldrius Жыл бұрын
@@evilherodiamondcat In flashbacks, or as a ghost/a vision.
@VICTORZITOSS Жыл бұрын
@@evanphillips2126omg, never knew mama soprano and mama crane were the same person Although comparing the two might get a little dark...
@Mibbitmaker Жыл бұрын
@@VICTORZITOSS Well, she did threaten to kill Diane...
@alaina932 Жыл бұрын
While I don't appreciate crying at work as I listen to this video (and the great ending), I do appreciate the upload and the massive effort in creating this. Frasier has become very important to me, even without having watched Cheers. I just assumed he was a minor character and never bothered watching Cheers, but this gives me a rich perspective I didn't have before. Thanks for sharing ❤️
@BMask Жыл бұрын
Very glad to hear this and that it had an effect, thank you! Apologies for embarrassing you at work that way though, I forget sometimes these can be watched anywhere and everywhere.
@Scerttle Жыл бұрын
Frasier was literally the ONLY show on Channel 9 Australia I would tune in for during the 90s. It was literally the only reason I had the station tuned to begin with. Cheers was before my time, so it's really cool seeing how those two shows link up.
@n0tk0sher Жыл бұрын
If you can catch Cheers on a streaming service, you really should. There are certainly some dated aspects of the show, but it is so worth it. I grew up watching it, and because of this KZbin video, I'm gonna rewatch it. 😊
@gabrielcayton32615 ай бұрын
What a great Frasier-centric Cheers retrospective!
@JasonBeam7 Жыл бұрын
Lifelong Frasier fan here. Thank you for doing this
@MikeSandersman12 ай бұрын
I came in to see more talking about the Frasier show, and I left loving Cheers more. Thank you so much B- Mask. This was such a wonderful and moving video, and you managed to give these two shows the love that they needed.
@BMask2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much- extremely appreciative to hear this!!
@zorglubmagnus455 Жыл бұрын
This is a masterpiece. I watched Frasier twice before i realized I could also watch Cheers. Then went on to watch Frasier another 7 or 8 times and Cheers a couple of times. I greatly enjoyed putting all the pieces together backwards.
@naregm54926 ай бұрын
Holy crap I can't thank you enough for this video. These people and characters defined my childhood.
@EJSmith145 Жыл бұрын
A video about Frasier by you was never a matter of "if", but "when". Amazing work as always! 💖
@JonTalbain777 Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic essay. I have a lot of thoughts, but what stands out to me the most is your fair and nuanced take on Diane.One of the things that always drew me to Frasier was that Diane and Lilith were my childhood crushes. Fans more or less love Lilith, but Diane is always a point of contention. Diane is so interesting and I always loved her, but her relationship with Sam did shape the entirety of her tenure, and you are right in saying her leaving gave the show room to evolve into a truly ensemble effort. I thought it was interesting that the TV writers turned her into a successful TV writer after her exit. What is that supposed to mean?! The Show Where Diane Comes Back is one of my absolute favorites, and their goodbye still makes me tear up at times. I love how Diane is trying to use art to correct life, and in the end, real life is what corrects the art. It's masterfully written and acted.
@kasig2013 Жыл бұрын
Damn, that was easily one of your best videos to date. Possibly your all-time best. This video convinced me of one thing crystal clear: I have to watch Cheers and Frasier. Through this 2 1/2 hour essay, I really came to love these characters. I want to experience all of their hilarious highs and sad lows. And, I also kind of realized that, like Frasier, I really have to grow up too. For my own good. Even though it'll be hard. Thank you, B-Mask, for showing me this and for adding two amazing shows onto my watchlist.
@KnayaMayor Жыл бұрын
I would have never thought I would ever sit down for 2 and a ½ hours watching something about Frasier and Cheers. I lived every minute of it. So many emotions due to similarities that happened in my life. Very emotional and well done. Hopefully Kelsey Grammer and the execs of those shows, will give you some sort of nod or thumbs up. If KZbin could give you an Emmy for a documentary, it would be well deserved, CHEERS!
@ZeroMayhemZX Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video. For writers and actors to explore a character, to allow them to grow into a full three dimensional person over such a long period of time is a rare treat in sitcoms. I originally watched Cheers and Frasier in order (must have been wild doing them the other way around). I'm currently rewatching Cheers (it's an all time favorite of mine, Fawlty Towers too, nice to see that brought up) and seeing Frasier as he started, knowing where he's going, and the growth along the way is one of the joys of revisiting it. His development from a foil to Sam to a close friend is always heart warming. You've done an excellent job analyzing the character and the clips and interview segments are fantastic. Thank you!
@BMask Жыл бұрын
No, thank *you* for the wonderful comment!
@perry-15722 ай бұрын
Ive actually started Cheers since watching this, and something about your writing style i’ve also come to appreciate in the Fantastic Four video is how you make the videos so comprehensive and yet never spoil the experience of watching the show for yourself. I knew how Season 1 would end, yet I was hooked from start to finish because the writing is just that good. This show isnt just its big moments, and I applaud you for managing to convey that without making watching the show itself redundant.
@moonlitegram Жыл бұрын
I'm old enough to have grown up watching Cheers first so Frasier's past was no mystery to me while also watching Frasier. I loved both shows for very different reasons which is why I think Frasier worked so well and is one of the most, if not the most, successful spin off shows in TV's history. Between the well rounded character that Grammar and the Cheers writers created in Cheers, and the fact that they didn't just try to rehash more Cheers episodes with Frasier, lead to something really great in the spinoff. By the end of Frasier's run I was kind of growing tired of the sitcom formula and kind of enthralled with the newer long format, narrative series that started popping up in the early 2000s. So regretfully I kind of soured on the series towards its later seasons, not because of the show itself, but because of my tastes changing. However, decades later, I find myself returning to shows like Frasier and Cheers and watching them with great fondness. The more episodic nature, and the focus on solid set ups and punchlines, is now a refreshing change to a TV market saturated with long running narratives that feel impossible to keep up with. The old has become new, and the new old. And I get to revisit some old pals from my more younger days.
@BMask Жыл бұрын
Thank you for commenting- I find perspectives like this incredibly important. I know from the many I read it can be difficult to impress to people the effect and changing perception of these things over time to better understand the history of why and how these things come to be, and I know your experience is not isolated. It'll be interesting to see what else this applies to another ten years or so down the line.
@moonlitegram Жыл бұрын
@@BMask Yea its definitely interesting to see how attitudes are influenced over the years. And how the same art and media can take on a whole new reputation as the years go by and the eras change.
@pierreschnehage8152 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic analysis. I've had Frasier on rotation for 3 years now... I'll get Cheers again. Fiction that becomes part of life.
@knitro1 Жыл бұрын
This was great. Im one of those few Black Men that watched and Loved this Show. Frasier is my all time favorite show. Thank you for this.
@johnmilligan7788 Жыл бұрын
This entire video is INCREDIBLE. This is by far the best character essay video I’ve ever seen. Watching this, it was the first time I thought to myself, I should make other KZbin accounts just to like this video several times over. I love “Frasier” and have watched the series several times over but could never really get into “Cheers.” This video filled a void I didn’t even know was there. Wow, just wow.
@respawnicon10 ай бұрын
This was so Frasierian. You're a fucking King. Thank you for this.
@conkface4 ай бұрын
I couldn't get into Cheers despite loving Frasier so much so I'm glad you made this recap. really well made.
@Snips.Snails.Fairytales Жыл бұрын
Okay. Hear me out. I have never watched a full episode of Cheers or Frasier. But I realized something just from this video. In that Halloween episode, Frasier says he is in costume as Dante Gabriel Rosetti. Dante Gabriel Rosetti was, of course, a very successful painter and poet. If you look at his work, you cannot deny that he was a master of his craft. No one could possibly criticise him or his skill, unless they happened to be his own flesh and blood. No one knows you better than family after all. His sister was Christina Rosetti, also a very famous and successful poet who wrote such classics as "Goblin Market" and "In an Artist's Studio". The latter, I think, is very relevant to Frasier. "In an Artist's Studio", to put it lightly, is essentially Christina giving her own brother a read. If you really look at all of Dante's paintings, you'll realize they all look like they're of the same woman, because they are. She might be in different clothes, poses, and situations, but she always has this kind, wistful, almost expressionless face. In reality, Dante's muse had died very young, and he spent the rest of his life painting this person as she might have been. In the words of Christina "Not as she is, but as she fills his dream." Since this woman died, he never saw the real person beneath the pretty face, so the pretty face was all he could recreate. Everyone else was always going to fail his expectations. Frasier, based on this video, does the same. None of his lovers tragically died (as far as I know) but he does hold onto this image, this idea, of what each one of them could have been, because the reality will always be less than perfect. He might have had a few intellectual equals in Cheers, but no one can call you out on your own BS quite like a sibling can. That, I think, is what makes Niles so imporant and fascinating for Frasier in his spinoff. So to have him turn around and be his own Christina Rosetti and tell his own brother to appreciate the reality rather than the fantasy, is plain beautiful writing. Maybe they dressed him up as Dante Gabriel Rosetti to joke that he's pretentious, which works just fine. But holy shit if they planned that, I aspire to be that well thought out with my own writing. Well fucking done.
@BMask Жыл бұрын
I would not be surprised if an element of that was absolutely in why they chose that reference. I read a fascinating article on how Diane's play very much mirrors the scene in Hamlet where they also perform a play within the story on his own life- and that Frasiers line on how the devil 'can sometimes assume pleasing shapes' is very close to something said there, too. Same can be said of Shaw's Man and Superman which of course has a third act called 'Don Juan in Hell.' These guys were just so well read and so good at learning from their influences that I've no doubt all these ideas helped inform their choices for Frasier, even if just as sly in-jokes.
@kurtwagner350 Жыл бұрын
even if it was unintentional the writers being incredibly well versed in high culture adds so much to these shows and has introduced me to so so many interesting things. I wish more shows strove to genuinely have an intellectual edge these days
@FreejackVesa Жыл бұрын
I love it when people come up with off the wall theories, based in reality or not. It's fun. Thanks
@RoySATX Жыл бұрын
No accident, it was "well fucking done" as you say! Frasier was a brilliant sitcom, always clever and always hysterical, always willing to make fun of itself for being so hysterically clever but never going so far as to be intellectually insulting. One of the top sitcoms ever.
@Anomaly188 Жыл бұрын
I've heard it said once that Niles is what Frasier would've been if his time in Boston during the run of Cheers hadn't mellowed him out. So you end up having a kind of 'talking to yourself' theme where the older, more experienced, and grounded Frasier is talking to his brother and a younger version of himself at the same time.
@AllSingingAllDancing6 ай бұрын
The first few minutes into this, I thought this was some AI gunk. But holy mother of Cheers, you have so much behind the scenes info, so many primary sources, so insanely researched, and I thoroughly and absolutely loved this video. Who the heck are you? Fantastic job!!!!!!!!!
@GingerAnimator Жыл бұрын
I'll always remember the summer after uni, waking up every morning to Frasier repeats on Channel 4 and turning to my Mum after a few days and saying "I think I lived with that guy for two years."
@BMask Жыл бұрын
'how I miss those hail-fellows-well-met'
@idimation5579 Жыл бұрын
Same here, except it was late night reruns when I was a kid.
@MovieMan17108 ай бұрын
Just wanna say this is like the 5th time watching this and I really do appreciate all the hard work you put into making this. It's provided a lot of comfort while I work late nights
@BMask8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much- genuinely means a lot to hear!!!
@SkepticalChris Жыл бұрын
2 and a half hours of pure honest, true tribute to a great character, from a true genuine fan :) Funny, that I was such a big Frasier fan, even today in my head I hear both Frasier and Lilith sometimes giving me mental advise in my head.....and I'm sure Lilith and Frasier would have something to say about that.
@FauxRomano Жыл бұрын
This was a wonderful video, bravo. I've always adored Cheers despite even myself not being old enough to watch it live. It really really holds up.
@jackcharlotte25 Жыл бұрын
Props to using "Frontier Psychiatrist," aka the greatest song ever, as your theme for this episode
@BigGiantMonster Жыл бұрын
35:38 The dinner party episode with Same & Diane and Lilith & Frasier's apartment is probably one of the Top 10 Sitcom episodes of all time, so perfect, all the jokes land. I honestly thought the night I watched this when it originally aired that they were setting up a spin-off with Frasier & Lilith
@bethanybosworth Жыл бұрын
I don't know if this is true, but I read somewhere that the original concept for the spin-off was them as a married couple.
@dannyspelman1468 Жыл бұрын
The Irish actor, Milo O' Shea also appeared in both Cheers and Frasier. He played Niles and Frasier's therapist when they had a falling out but he was also in the wedding episode of Cheers. Woody's wedding.
@RasheedGazzi-u5l Жыл бұрын
Now you got me looking this guy up.
@dannyspelman1468 Жыл бұрын
@user-qm2li8zx2d He was a great comedy actor. He even appeared in a Carry On movie. Carry On Cabby
@omegamanGXE Жыл бұрын
I vaguely recall that name, was he the priest guy in the 1968 Zeffirelli film adaptation of Romeo and Juliet
@dannyspelman1468 Жыл бұрын
@@omegamanGXE That's him, yes.
@maureenshields75409 ай бұрын
@@dannyspelman1468 He was excellent as a corrupt, venal, and wholly unsympathetic judge in, 'The Verdict', with Paul Newman, Jack Warden, James Mason, and Charlotte Rampling. Whenever I watch that film, I look forward to his performance and marvel at his casting in that role. It is a cliche to say, 'inspired', but it surely was that and more. He adds to the menace of the David versus Goliath storyline.
@LegalPhantom Жыл бұрын
My absolutely perfect dream is B-Mask doing a review for a retro game and Majuular doing a review of Seinfeld. I would die with no regrets whatsoever.
@snapkickUUUU Жыл бұрын
Floored by your presentation and script writing. I've watched enough youtube and tried enough writing myself to know that it is HARD to keep a salient and sensible train of thought going, so keeping it going for 2 and a half hours AND making it entertaining about a sitcom I've never watched nor been interested in is extremely impressive. I'm absolutely going to give Cheers and Frasier a watch at some point now, but you've condensed the key points and the feelings down so well that I feel like I've already experienced it. Amazing work as always, looking forward to more!
@MarvinFalz Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love that bittersweet moment when Lilith and Frasier say goodbye for the very last time. That short moment of silence feels like they both realize how much they mean to each other and there's nothing but love between them. Beautiful.
@michaeladkins6 Жыл бұрын
The last time until a couple of weeks from now.
@Chris-dz3rs Жыл бұрын
I was watching "Cheers" back in the day and I remember noticing him in the background. I noticed we had a new barfly and he was soon revealed to be a new character by the end of that episode . I've been a fan since.
@Football__Junkie6 ай бұрын
Cheers, Golden Girls, and Frasier each gave a lethal dose of sarcasm every episode. Where I developed a sense of humor.
@nicklundy99655 ай бұрын
May I add the Nanny to the list?
@spagredo Жыл бұрын
THIS IS WHY YOU ARE THE GOAT!!!!!!!! THE ONLY PERSON TO DROP A 2 HOUR CHEERS VIDEO ESSAY
@RetroTechorDieАй бұрын
The best two and half hours I have spent on KZbin in a long time. thank you!
@Oakshimasu Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this Video. I love Frasier. I've watched and rewatched the show many times in my life, but I've *still* never watched cheers. It's legitimately cool to see the evolution of the character through this video.
@ItsMefromSnuffys Жыл бұрын
Intelligent writers making great entertainment. These shows were magical
@devinweathers7520 Жыл бұрын
Definitely wanted those types back
@zapkvr Жыл бұрын
@@devinweathers7520 Did you see The good place? Its perfect.
@sturmley Жыл бұрын
And now I need to go watch Frasier again. Thanks, B.
@DerBlutenPat1348 Жыл бұрын
I was pondering what Grammar/Paramount might do regarding some kind of retrospective for his upcoming 500th episode playing Frasier. By my count, he’s currently at 471. So it could maybe be the finale of season 3 of the reboot if it continues that long and they expand the episode orders the next couple of seasons. but honestly I don’t know if they’ll be able to top this. This is brilliant and engaging and never once felt like it dragged despite being 150 minutes long. This essay was clearly a labor of love. Bravo.
@IjiModo Жыл бұрын
I never expected a frasier video, B-mask, and I couldn't be happier. I'm glad my little bit of patreon support helped do this.
@MaySpitfireАй бұрын
Frasier and Cheers, some of my favorite shows, I always go back to them.
@Beatle4sale Жыл бұрын
Wow 2 1/2 hours about one of my favorite shows and characters ever. This is great! This is great!
@902099911 ай бұрын
Wow watching this has made me realize one simple truth...Boy did I miss a lot of episodes! I have rediscovered my love for this character and Cheers I never realized how in-depth these shows were until now
@mrmusickhimself9 ай бұрын
That intro was so damn good that I instantly paused and subscribed. Kelsey's such a fantastic actor.
@Sock-PuppetАй бұрын
That ending, where you explain that Frasier was always alone. It's why I so desperetaly hoped that on the return they had made Frasiers last relationship worth it, that it had lasted, Charlotte dying off screen would have been stronger than them simply breaking up. A relationship that didn't end beccause of something internal, but of an external, uncontrollable reality.
@ariner19 Жыл бұрын
I love Cheers so much. Insane to see someone I’m subscribed to making a multi hour video on the series
@samsnider2634 Жыл бұрын
My grandma got me hooked on this show years ago when I was maybe 8 or 9, thanks for making this!
@virginiaj2793 Жыл бұрын
I originally found your channel from your Sly Cooper breakdown. So it is such a pleasant surprise to see you deep dive into one of my favorite shows that is so widely different from video games. This is a really interesting watch, thanks!
@gunpuncher3817 Жыл бұрын
I was born in the Mid-90s, so Cheers and most of Fraiser were before my time unfortunately, although I have vague recollections of media stories endlessly praising Fraiser even back then. On top of that, being raised in a black household meant that Fraiser and especially Cheers were deemed as 'corny' - my mother in particular never liked that show - so I never had a chance to ingest Fraiser even tangentially through cultural osmosis. So, I kind of went through life believing the stereotype that Cheers was a cheesy sitcom constantly derailed by relationship drama that was never ending. I dunno how you managed to get into these shows, but I have to admit that not only have you changed my mind, but you've actually gotten me really invested in these shows to the point where I actually want to watch them for myself now. The thing I think that you do so much better than most video essayists, B-Mask, is the way that you let your passion and genuine love for the shows and movies you talk about be the connective tissue that combines your critical analysis of writing and characters with your meditation on how these shows and their characters affect you personally or reflect reality, which creates this emotional through line where you actually try to identify the artistic value and emotional meaning behind the art you love, which is an astounding talent that makes your videos so engaging. So many other reviewers or essayists just give a beat by beat of the plot or clinically dissect basic writing conventions without really remembering what these criticisms are for in the first place, which is to answer the question: "What is this art trying to say, what does it really mean?" Basically, you make yourself an advocate for the art you love, and not in a blind way, in a genuinely thoughtful, appreciative way. I say this because I had actually read up on Cheers not too long ago out of curiosity, and I had written it off as an 80s sitcom with a lot of melodrama jammed in, and until I watched your video, I never realized just how well developed and deeply considered the characters and humor of Cheers really was. The way you describe it, it's totally different than how I imagined it to be, much more lively and earthy and character-driven, and I kind of feel silly for thinking about it the way I did. Focusing specifically on Fraiser as a character (apart from being the obvious choice) makes it really clear just how strong the narrative through line for the characters in Cheers are in general, and his specific examples really speak to the quality of the show's framing and writing overall. You got a real knack for honing in on emotional arcs and subtle theming; some of this stuff is actually stuff I'd probably miss a first viewing tbh. Now I think I actually understand why people would never shut up about Fraiser, and I'm real mad I never caught it because that nerdy farcical humor is the kind of shit I would have LOVED to death as a teenager, and even more so now, but hey, you were here to inform the ignorant populace, and now I have some homework to do. Thanks for the video B-Mask, you've got real heart, never give it up!
@Me-wk3ix Жыл бұрын
I grew up watching Cheers as a kid (it started when I was 2 years old, and it was always on in the background because my parents loved it). I watched Fraiser from middle school through college. This brought back great memories! It's very weird to think that Grammer played this character from when I was about 5, through my early 20s.
@Enubatan5 ай бұрын
This is some damn good editing on this, I particularly love the part during Diane's cheers play, that was great
@vandas70485 ай бұрын
Frontier Psychiatrist is a banger and a great choice for the clips of a totally normal guy
@mjears Жыл бұрын
I was only a quarter of the way through this when I wanted to say: This is the most thorough, well-presented, beautifully illustrated essay on a TV character I think I will ever see! Now it has taken me 4 days to finish watching it, and it has been worth every minute. Bravo, and thank you.
@somniloguy12 Жыл бұрын
Damn I wish I watched Cheers before this. I did not expect that story to go into such interesting directions. Wonderful video as always. Your analysis always makes me appreciate whatever you cover more.
@BMask Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much- I will add, there's so much I didn't show concerning all the other characters, and the entirety of the first season is a masterclass in creating a great sitcom, so definitely plenty to still get out of the show!
@somniloguy12 Жыл бұрын
@@BMask I just started watching this morning! Cant wait to see it all unfold!
@jessel7585 Жыл бұрын
Very possibly the best thing I've seen on You Tube. Though, I may be biased as Cheers and Frasier are possibly my fav. shows of all time
@BoundaryBreak Жыл бұрын
i love this vid
@SkorpTS6 ай бұрын
I watched Frasier a long time ago when it had reruns, and I remember enjoying it. Later, I found out it was a spinoff off Cheers, which I never watched. Randomly got this video in my feed. Curiosity got me to start watching this video, and I (unexpectedly to me) finished it in one sitting. It's very well-put together, and it makes me want to watch Cheers, and of course Frasier (again). Thank you, much appreciated.
@comeintotheforest Жыл бұрын
I’ve waited for this video my whole life
@bschrdr07 Жыл бұрын
This is the best. I can't imagine how much work you put into this, absolute masterpiece.
@JackCipherCreations Жыл бұрын
The editing at 48:30 was SO phenomenal it was the main reason i forced my fiance to watch this video with me. He said it was totally worth it. We love Frasier, we love Cheers, we love this video essay. Easily one of my top to recommend to folks, now.
@mlt04038 ай бұрын
Revisiting this months later. MY BOY HIT 1MIL!! Finally, your stuff is waaaay too underrated. Been watching since your FF video
@BMask8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much man, you’re a real one
@joggingscissors632 Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for this video. Wow, the research, quality of writing, intelligence, and diligence you invested proves that, indeed, you ARE very similar to Frazier Crane. Well done. Of the many aspects that struck me, during my trip down memory lane, the most striking was John Cleese's appearance. It reminded me of the way Adam Carolla describes the golden era of the 80s decade. "Pre-AIDS, mid-coke"