A History of Unmade NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET Sequels

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Matt Draper

Matt Draper

Күн бұрын

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@SAPProd
@SAPProd 4 жыл бұрын
Personally, I think Englund’s idea of new kids hearing of the legend of Freddy Keueger and the monster manifesting in different ways has the most potential and interesting ideas. I’d love a new entry exploring that concept.
@avatarkels9846
@avatarkels9846 4 жыл бұрын
As the kids these days say “a They fumbled the bag.” 😒
@gridlo
@gridlo 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds kinda like "Into the Freddy-verse"
@Stigmatix666
@Stigmatix666 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you'd love that until you realize Robert Englund obviously wouldn't be playing the part of Freddy..
@StudioInkblot
@StudioInkblot 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like that Batman: The Animated Series episode
@paulelroy6650
@paulelroy6650 4 жыл бұрын
Rhe concept is too close to IT
@mr.sand7899
@mr.sand7899 4 жыл бұрын
That one where the kids grew up on stories of Freddy and now they all have their own different versions of him sounds like a good idea.
@Stigmatix666
@Stigmatix666 4 жыл бұрын
On paper, maybe. But when people realize that Robert Englund obviously wouldn't be playing the part of Freddy in this version, they'll flip!
@Popcultureguy3000
@Popcultureguy3000 4 жыл бұрын
Stigma He could still play *one* of them if his problem with playing Freddy is the makeup. In fact, if the plot leads these Freddy’s to merge into a new one at the end it would be an excellent way to pass the torch.
@ReelNinja1
@ReelNinja1 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Stephen King’s IT (2017) was such a big hit. The film would probably be seen as a rip-off of that film series
@Stigmatix666
@Stigmatix666 4 жыл бұрын
@@ReelNinja1 That too, obviously. Despite the fact that IT in itself is basically a mash-up between Nightmare and Goonies..
@ReelNinja1
@ReelNinja1 4 жыл бұрын
Stigma not exactly. Stephen King wanted to write a monster like Frankenstein, the Wolfman, & more so he created Pennywise. Nightmare on Elm Street didn’t influence the novel
@GuessWho7197
@GuessWho7197 4 жыл бұрын
That second idea by Robert Englund with each character having different interpretations of Freddy honestly sounds really great. I'd have loved to see that film.
@Stigmatix666
@Stigmatix666 4 жыл бұрын
Without Robert in the part? Don't make me laugh
@Popcultureguy3000
@Popcultureguy3000 4 жыл бұрын
Stigma How about this, in order to get Englund involved, the studio that gets the rights use his kids interpreting him differently script idea, (they’ll of course have to ask him to write a new treatment based off that idea) and Englund will only be asked to be *one* of the many different dream reinterpretations of Freddy. With this approach they could get a bunch of different people to play the role, they could even get back Jackie Earl Hailey for a kid that has a much idea of what a sexual predator is and have Jackie embody Freddy as murderous pedophile. Obviously he’s need to look differently since that “more realistic looking burn victim” look wasn’t as menacing.
@Stigmatix666
@Stigmatix666 4 жыл бұрын
@@Popcultureguy3000 Nah, it would be jarring. Sounds like the "Freddy-verse" or the "Freddy-matrix" or something like that.. It's a bad idea and everyone would agree upon that, if it hadn't come from Robert.. That just makes people blind to how stupid that idea really is. Nightmare certainly doesn't need to be reinvented, they tried to do that a decade ago with disastrous results. They need to conclude the story with one last goodbye to Robert and Heather in their respective roles, that's what fans want to see. Not a dumb gimmick..
@Popcultureguy3000
@Popcultureguy3000 4 жыл бұрын
Stigma It just doesn’t make sense to me that a Dream Demon or Dream Ghost would only have direct control of his incorporeal form. He should be subject to how the dreamer subconsciously views him until he gain a unified image of what he is “supposed” to look like again. I actually think this “different forms for different dreamers” approach can work now that we have the distance of time from the original, thus allowing this plot point to act as meta-commentary on long-running franchises and their ultimate longevity if rights holders allow their properties to start to lose their identity. Or something along those lines.
@jboao
@jboao 4 жыл бұрын
Just watch IT or read the book, same thing
@petehobson1054
@petehobson1054 3 жыл бұрын
Must admire how the cast were throwing ideas out there. Shows how much passion they had for the films.
@mrpontyboi
@mrpontyboi 4 жыл бұрын
The courtroom Freddy based on the original killings WAS MADE. It was the original episode of Freddy's Nightmares.
@FieryFlamingFajitas
@FieryFlamingFajitas 4 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of people that he's killed coming back as 'force ghosts' to help stop him. Also the different interpretations of him would be cool
@ronaldshank7589
@ronaldshank7589 4 жыл бұрын
That wouldn't work. The Dream Demons had already seen to that. The only way to truly get rid of Freddy Krueger, is to somehow drive the Dream Demons out of him...and THEN kill him!
@boomstickcritique902
@boomstickcritique902 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldshank7589 Not really you can kill Freddy in many ways, he just won't stay dead. They could always invent new ways to Kill him, despite how he got his powers. The thing is, though, the only thing that can truly kill Freddy is low box office.
@DarkmanPoe
@DarkmanPoe 3 жыл бұрын
That Peter Jackson “Dream Lover” concept sounds incredible. Shame that it never came to fruition.
@b3ans4eva
@b3ans4eva 3 жыл бұрын
Can we pull him away from documentaries and get this green lit?
@CowsAreIrrelevant
@CowsAreIrrelevant 4 жыл бұрын
The concept where Freddy appears different to each kid actuality seems really interesting and a great way to highlight the nature of urban legends
@kang6914
@kang6914 3 жыл бұрын
That reminds me of Pennywise
@LoganSewell83
@LoganSewell83 Жыл бұрын
Candyman
@joshuaabbatiello707
@joshuaabbatiello707 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's an it story
@DistractedGlobeGuy
@DistractedGlobeGuy 8 ай бұрын
Little too close to _Candyman_ to do it now without cutting some kind of deal with Clive Barker.
@angelwolfplays6456
@angelwolfplays6456 4 жыл бұрын
I always wanted to see what would happen if Freddy entered the dreams of a young serial killer whose mind is so twisted it traps Freddy.
@kwho
@kwho 2 жыл бұрын
Yess.. Dahmer meets Freddy
@kevinkelley3906
@kevinkelley3906 2 жыл бұрын
@@kwho Nahhh. They're on Dahmer overload right now.
@DistractedGlobeGuy
@DistractedGlobeGuy 8 ай бұрын
You could call it _Fred Gein._
@WesHarries
@WesHarries 7 ай бұрын
That's brilliant Fred gien haha 3:54
@diywrites8703
@diywrites8703 4 жыл бұрын
With Englund not wanting to don the make-up anymore his idea of everyone interpreting the character differently could work in a reboot. I do also like the idea of "the dream police" seeing the victims come back to try and stop Freddy once and for all is an interesting concept.
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 4 жыл бұрын
It was not just Robert England (damn autocorrect) that said “Ehh hard pass” Kane Hodder (who played Jason Voorhees) basically said “ I would love to play Jason, physically I can’t do this anymore”, and Bruce Campbell saying hard pass to play Ash from Evil Dead, (Check the book that was used in Jason goes to Hell, {hint: It was indeed The Necronomicon}) So any Freddy vs Jason sequel would have to include Ash from Evil Dead. The closest things are the Freddy vs Jason vs Ash comics.
@PsychoKillertheGame
@PsychoKillertheGame 4 жыл бұрын
@@sawtooth808 The times of both stories do no match up from Jason and Ash and nobody wants to see that
@PsychoKillertheGame
@PsychoKillertheGame 4 жыл бұрын
Englund said he would do one more.
@boomstickcritique902
@boomstickcritique902 3 жыл бұрын
When they make a new one they need to cast a new unknown actor, so people won't have as big expectations.
@cinemasnitch3959
@cinemasnitch3959 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Bacon would be great in that role. He proved he can be terrifying in Hollow Man
@brucelucasjr5856
@brucelucasjr5856 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget him as Guard Nokes in Sleepers. He showed he can be evil to kids too
@linearman0245
@linearman0245 4 жыл бұрын
Plus there's The Woodsman.
@boomstickcritique902
@boomstickcritique902 3 жыл бұрын
He would be good, the guy from the Remake was too short to be imposing.
@tommystone3331
@tommystone3331 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I think he would do a great job actually, especially if he was already interested in the roll.💯✌️❤️
@samwell_6977
@samwell_6977 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, a found footage version of Friday sounds pretty sick. It could definitely make Jason come off a lot creepier with the POV perspective. Although I get how it could get too many comparisons to Blair Witch and seem like a half-hearted trend-chaser of a movie
@DistractedGlobeGuy
@DistractedGlobeGuy 8 ай бұрын
How would you even do found footage of people's dreams? What would the justification for that be? The technology to record dreams is just in its infancy and it would still require an observer to be awake and operating the system in the real world, safely outside Freddy's direct influence. Could be an interesting way to reincorporate the Katja Institute, maybe even bring back Charles Fleischer-but how could it be made to work?
@56postoffice
@56postoffice 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see Wes's version of *"ANOES3: Dream Warriors."*
@Stigmatix666
@Stigmatix666 4 жыл бұрын
@tyrone kinard The novelization is it's own story. It has nothing to do with Wes' original Dream warriors script
@Stigmatix666
@Stigmatix666 4 жыл бұрын
@tyrone kinard In the novel? yeah, probably. But not everyone dies. kristen lives. Also, Wes' script was *not* used in the novelization
@nicholashearfield8980
@nicholashearfield8980 4 жыл бұрын
You can read the script online. I can't remember the site but it's there as a pdf. It's far nastier than the film that was released. I think it was the basis for the book which most have been released before the film came out.
@profilefeather
@profilefeather 4 жыл бұрын
Ye, but Wes is dead now. Fun fact am I right?
@profilefeather
@profilefeather 4 жыл бұрын
I would of loved the noir detective nightmare 3
@logannadeau2750
@logannadeau2750 4 жыл бұрын
The alternate Freddy’s Dead movie sounded really good... I’d love to see everyone reunite even if they are dead but still intent on fighting back
@anthonygreico9735
@anthonygreico9735 4 жыл бұрын
@Ryan Stewart The actual "Freddy's Dead" is an abomination that did not need to be made, IMO! "Dream Warriors" is a classic though. I just made a review/analysis of it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJe7dZuqoNSVobM
@boomstickcritique902
@boomstickcritique902 3 жыл бұрын
I read the script for the original idea, it wasn't amazing, but it would have made an alright movie and would have been a decent ending for Freddy. His death in the Dream Police script is far better than the one in the actual Freddy's Dead.
@m.g.trazor417
@m.g.trazor417 4 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for Jackie, he was very good for the role but the role wasn't written very well for him.
@bigal3055
@bigal3055 3 жыл бұрын
Likewise. The man did a brilliant job, given the shite he was given to work with. I'd have no problem seeing him reprise the role if a better script could be put together for another reboot.
@brian_b_music
@brian_b_music 2 жыл бұрын
Jackie Earl Haley was awesome. The cgi Freddy makeup was trash.
@kwho
@kwho 2 жыл бұрын
He was perfect in theory..he played a really convincing pedo in another movie..so bad it made me feel super creeped out. I thought he would make a great dark version of Freddy..but we are all to used to the lighter funnier version..not to mention the Jackie Freddy makeup was awful
@ryanstauffer119
@ryanstauffer119 16 күн бұрын
@@brian_b_musicYeah, it made him look like a lizard
@brian_b_music
@brian_b_music 16 күн бұрын
@@ryanstauffer119 Yeah that or a burnt squirrel 😂. It was not a good look.
@WesleyThibodeau
@WesleyThibodeau 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the Englund script with each different version of Freddy being the "look" of each Freddy with his persona from said era. It would be a 'nightmare' to make but it would be an amazing way to get Robert to do a last one while he is alive and able to. It would never happen, but different Freddy characters is an amazing idea since he had so many sides to his personality.
@SickSkwerl
@SickSkwerl 4 жыл бұрын
The "prequel" is called 'No More Mr. Nice Guy', the first two episodes of Freddy's Nightmares directed by Tobe Hooper
@pixalmated4853
@pixalmated4853 4 жыл бұрын
I can't even lie, that dummy jumpscare, freaked me out as a kid. It looked so unnatural the way it got took inside the house
@colinbrightwell4544
@colinbrightwell4544 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, that Jackson Elm Street sounds incredible.
@pleaserewind295
@pleaserewind295 4 жыл бұрын
I often think about it, and if Clive Barker could have worked on the franchise. One of the saddest things about the Nightmare franchise is all the missed potential with the premise.
@linearman0245
@linearman0245 4 жыл бұрын
@@pleaserewind295 Oh shitballs. That would be awesome.
@DarthEyesDragon
@DarthEyesDragon 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I can somewhat envision the movie.
@boomstickcritique902
@boomstickcritique902 3 жыл бұрын
It could work, but it doesn't sound super-special, it sounds like a good plot but more just another sequel plot that would be cool but nothing mind-blowing.
@CinnamonGrrlErin1
@CinnamonGrrlErin1 4 жыл бұрын
I love New Nightmare; i remember seeing it on tv quite a bit in the late 90s and being fascinated by the meta concept.
@brandontait2894
@brandontait2894 3 жыл бұрын
META-Facebook
@otaking3582
@otaking3582 4 жыл бұрын
"Time travel within dreams that broke all the rules of dreams" So basically Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance?
@peterproductions5015
@peterproductions5015 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I’d kill to see Jackson’s “The Dream Lover”. It sounds awesome.
@Monius13
@Monius13 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Englund's idea of the monster manifesting in different forms in the imagination of children is perfect for the future of the franchise. It would give him a way to play the character one last time, then give birth to different characters that COULD be cool, too. It's a great concept. You'll never hear me say Freddy wasn't important. Robert Englund's portrayal of Freddy always made me happy. But the real story wasn't exactly Freddy imo. It was a monster attacking you in your dreams. This could be multiple monsters to be honest, but one just took the form of Freddy. There could be more and it would be awesome to see. Personally anyway. Thanks for the video!
@markpatjoebilldinousar1111
@markpatjoebilldinousar1111 4 жыл бұрын
Bro Peter Jacksons idea of freddy being an old frailed shell of his former self and getting bullied by teens ( meta on how the series lost its darkness and edge ) dude I would be down to see that shit lol . And then freddy coming back more evil and darker then ever , with a joke or 2 here and there
@markpatjoebilldinousar1111
@markpatjoebilldinousar1111 4 жыл бұрын
@Brandon Brooks danggggggg I would want to see that
@markpatjoebilldinousar1111
@markpatjoebilldinousar1111 4 жыл бұрын
@Brandon Brooks like an lsd fueled nightmare , more intense and horrific as far as psychological trrror
@colliric
@colliric 3 жыл бұрын
Those themes are kinda in New Nightmare already, where Englund playing himself talks about them watering down Freddy and killing the series, but also plays the more evil darker version. Frankly I think they should have continued the New Nightmare canon and have a sequel also set in the "real world".
@markpatjoebilldinousar1111
@markpatjoebilldinousar1111 3 жыл бұрын
@@colliric New nightmare isn't freddy tho , that's a demon manifesting in the form of Robert englunds freddy and for me and allot of other fans it didnt work... I'll take it for what it is but Craven did Meta wayyyyyyy better in scream . People want to see THE freddy krueger , not some demon variant in a meta movie
@colliric
@colliric 3 жыл бұрын
@@markpatjoebilldinousar1111 it's the second best film in the series and you know it. Lol!
@NewAlchemychan
@NewAlchemychan 4 жыл бұрын
The teens having their own interpretations of Freddy would be a good basis for Freddy
@Stigmatix666
@Stigmatix666 4 жыл бұрын
You do of course realize Freddy wouldn't have a shred of personality in that scenario, right?
@Popcultureguy3000
@Popcultureguy3000 4 жыл бұрын
Stigma His personality would form based on how people keep telling the story of him after each kill. You really lack a creative eye, Stigma, ya know that? Throughout this whole comment section you’ve been trying to convince everyone this approach would be a bad idea for one reason or another, but the truth of the matter is that _you’re_ the fan that has trouble accepting new ideas and new actors, and you always have been.
@risottopose9970
@risottopose9970 4 жыл бұрын
Stigma No, he’d just have the personality imagined by the teens
@MajorPaign
@MajorPaign 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah and a good basis for the movie......It......🙄
@Popcultureguy3000
@Popcultureguy3000 4 жыл бұрын
@@MajorPaign More than one movie can have this kind of monster, don’t be a party pooper.
@Anders010
@Anders010 4 жыл бұрын
That list of artists in the video description is pure gold.
@TonyLehane
@TonyLehane 4 жыл бұрын
The Freddy’s Dead concept breaks my heart cause it sounds so good
@markuxx7409
@markuxx7409 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, in anticipation of Halloween season. I did not even know some of these unmade sequels were planned, so thanks. Saludos.
@Jalex_Owns
@Jalex_Owns 2 жыл бұрын
My god, Peter Jackson's idea for 6 was BRILLIANT.
@erickleefeld4883
@erickleefeld4883 5 ай бұрын
The idea of Nancy becoming a guardian angel in dreams, to counter Freddy as the dream demon, was used in a licensed comic series.
@mullaoslo
@mullaoslo 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Jacksons nightmare 6 has always been high on my movies i wished happend.
@Makoto03
@Makoto03 4 жыл бұрын
This was great. Dream Warriors is my favorite in the entire franchise. I had no idea about any of these alternate ideas for the sequels. The rejected plans for Freddy's Dead sounds infinitely better than what we got. It would have made more sense to bring back characters from the past for his 'last' film. Also really sad we never got a sequel to Freddy Vs Jason. It was a fun film for what it was.
@MagnaNoctua
@MagnaNoctua 4 жыл бұрын
if memory serves, we were never going to get a movie sequel to it, and that in fact the ending we got was supposed to be open ended because neither side of license holders wanted their character to be the loser (original script showed Freddy as winner if I remember right). Honestly I think we were lucky to get what we did, there was also a comic sequel to it, with Ash and Evil Dead in it as well.
@jayeckberg774
@jayeckberg774 4 жыл бұрын
@@MagnaNoctua The first Freddy vs Jason vs Ash comic was based on the film script, which was the sequel to F vs J. Talks with Bruce Campbell broke down(he wouldn't do the film unless he got to kill Jason & Freddy for good) so the film was scrapped.
@mrsuns10
@mrsuns10 2 жыл бұрын
I hate that they killed off Nancy
@Makoto03
@Makoto03 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrsuns10 yeah i would have liked her to live. But she at least went out better than legacy characters in other franchises.
@kblixt
@kblixt 4 жыл бұрын
The Freddy courtroom drama sounds like the Freddy’s Nigtmares episode that was made in 88
@ForEternia
@ForEternia 4 жыл бұрын
It was the pilot episode titled 'No More Mr Nice Guy '
@dannyhudson5115
@dannyhudson5115 4 жыл бұрын
Ricardo and it was great lol
@gspendlove
@gspendlove 4 жыл бұрын
I was going to comment on that. I remember that episode.
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 4 жыл бұрын
It was directed by Texas Chainsaw Massacre's Tobe Hooper as well.
@MattDraper
@MattDraper 4 жыл бұрын
Which of these unmade "Nightmare" movies do you wish had happened? For more unmade sequels, watch my video on "Friday the 13th" here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6HZhaiajqiqibM And on "Alien" sequels here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXWnpaCmnJ50r80
@insertdeadname
@insertdeadname 4 жыл бұрын
Matt Draper Max Landis also tried to pitch a slasher crossover movie with Freddie in a very prominent role. According to him he actually got everyone onboard for chucky, Jason, Michael Myers, and Pinhead to be in it but couldn’t get Freddy which the pitch just doesn’t really work without.
@victoriacaneal6996
@victoriacaneal6996 4 жыл бұрын
Englund's idea of different interpretations of Freddy depending on a person's idea of evil. Sounds radical and it could still work today.
@jceddo
@jceddo 4 жыл бұрын
I think The early Kills would/could be a really good movie if done right.... especially with how big cold case and court case movies/series are nowadays.
@Lebofilms
@Lebofilms 4 жыл бұрын
Mine.
@jetfryl9831
@jetfryl9831 4 жыл бұрын
A good one
@AE-su4wq
@AE-su4wq 4 жыл бұрын
I’m sure many have said this before me but damn... You have the perfect video essay voice
@itszackempire
@itszackempire 4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing what you have coming for the month!!
@mightybruce1478
@mightybruce1478 4 жыл бұрын
I just wanna see Nightmare on Elm Street make a comeback. Freddy Will always live on in my eyes. Love You Robert 🙌🏾 Hopefully you will give an approval for someone new. Or maybe Cameo 🤞🏾
@Poobaya
@Poobaya 3 жыл бұрын
The main reason why the remake flopped big time is that they changed the look of freddy too much. It just wasn't freddy (anymore). And the fans were pissed that they turned him into a child molester instead of a child killer.
@mightybruce1478
@mightybruce1478 3 жыл бұрын
That makes hella sense. I was a teenager when it came out in 2010. I felt that way as well about the appearance and the storyline they gave him. Even though I never admit it outloud. I agree I didn’t like it myself. I know they can do better. I wish some how some way They can Revive NMOES.
@Poobaya
@Poobaya 3 жыл бұрын
@@tommyboyraider3555 yup after part 3 the whole horror concept was ruined. the movies became more comedy than horror. I still think to this day that part 6 wasn't the ending this franchise deserved.
@boomstickcritique902
@boomstickcritique902 3 жыл бұрын
If Robert is still around by the time they make a new one, and they will eventually, I hope he plays one of the parents burning Freddy, that would be funny.
@joeljohnson6137
@joeljohnson6137 2 жыл бұрын
They need a a younger scary guy with a point bridge nose like Robert Englund
@deadpool3982
@deadpool3982 4 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see a reboot where Freddy wasn’t the original child murderer but they used the quiet loner as a scapegoat, their fear and belief tainting his soul in death and making him want revenge...have him being defeated by reminding him he loved the children of springwood or finding the real killer (Jason’s mother deciding if she can’t have a child nobody can maybe, just for the FvJ nod) and passing on or something... ...the mob justice part of the story just always bugged me, especially as usually when mob mentality is in place they attack/condemn the wrong people
@risottopose9970
@risottopose9970 4 жыл бұрын
That’s why I think the Reboot missed a big opportunity with this exact idea
@billyb4665
@billyb4665 4 жыл бұрын
I LOVED that idea, but weren't they implying that the real killer would live on to commit more crimes while residents blamed it on an urban legend (based on their lynching victim)? When it comes to horror movies, I prefer the paranormal kind, so I wouldn't have wanted the supernatural element of the story to be written off like that.
@DannyWilliamH
@DannyWilliamH 4 жыл бұрын
I agree and it would explain a bit of a plot hole in the series. Freddy kills kids (it's also implied and then said that he's also a pedo) and when the parents kill him he...takes his revenge? It makes no sense. Yeah, you could say that he's so evil that even in the retribution for his wrongdoing he's going to seek revenge. Yet, that always came off as a bit strange to me. Just make Freddy innocent. That gives incentive. Parents essentially lynch and burn an innocent man and that man THEN gets revenge on their kids via nightmares. It then explains why the parents are always such morons in each film - they killed an innocent man and know it. That gives incentive to NOT want to talk about him or believe that THEY created this monster. Also, a few of the ideas floated in this video aren't bad. The Englund and Jackson takes were good, IMO. Also, the Saxon idea was a bit much but taps into the notion of an innocent Freddy.
@risottopose9970
@risottopose9970 4 жыл бұрын
DannyWilliamH Best comment
@uishy340
@uishy340 4 жыл бұрын
@@risottopose9970 And it's even worse seeing as they basically doubled down on Freddy being an awful person, I'd *love* to see a more sympathetic take on Freddy
@shantanu3231
@shantanu3231 4 жыл бұрын
80s - where sci fi and slasher horror took birth.
@rezaqalam482
@rezaqalam482 3 жыл бұрын
also the golden age of practical efect
@joeljohnson6137
@joeljohnson6137 2 жыл бұрын
They did have great Sci-Fi films The Fly Aliens The Thing Robocop Predator Terminator Empire Strikes Back Return of the Jedi Critters E.T Blade Runner
@stevenballantyne9710
@stevenballantyne9710 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always loved Robert Englund’s idea of different versions of Freddie. You could have England play his light hearted one, Jackie Earle Haley play a darker version, even perhaps have Johnny Depp play a version for cameo appearances, and another unknown talent to give it a try too. Would make for a great story, final hurrah for Englund, and a way to reboot the franchise with someone knew in a film people like, going forward.
@TheVAULTofHORROR
@TheVAULTofHORROR Жыл бұрын
No way. Depp as Krueger? Way to ruin it.
@stevenballantyne9710
@stevenballantyne9710 Жыл бұрын
@@TheVAULTofHORROR Tbh how his career is now, I think he’d go for it. Plus it was only an idea, so you don’t need to get upset.
@axinhedgelion8417
@axinhedgelion8417 Жыл бұрын
@@TheVAULTofHORRORyou seriously support the one who caused depp to lose his career?
@wildermidnight
@wildermidnight 4 жыл бұрын
Initially I always felt that the ending with Freddy pulling Nancy's mom through the front door window was what Nancy's mom was dreaming when Freddy killed her. I feel that Nancy's mom was Freddy's target throughout the entire movie and that most of the movie was her nightmare. The scene with Nancy in the hospital bringing freddy's hat into the real world from her nightmare never made sense. An inexplicable phenomena occurs, something that has supernatural elements to it in a hospital surrounded by doctors and nurses and everyone just writes it off as a "whatever". There was something more going on between Freddy and nancy's mom.
@xxdaemochibixx120
@xxdaemochibixx120 4 жыл бұрын
Me screaming into the unfeeling void that manson was not a serial killer!
@YungReg88
@YungReg88 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the synthwave music you used in this video & thank you for providing links!
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 4 жыл бұрын
Great video matt on these unmade nightmare on elm street sequels.
@jennifersixx3740
@jennifersixx3740 4 жыл бұрын
I’m wearing a Freddy tee shirt today. Before I had seen this. I love Freddy. This horror series is my favorite
@dead0ntime
@dead0ntime 4 жыл бұрын
3:08 you said Dokken right!! While I really like Dream Warriors, Englund’s idea sounds cool. The different versions of Freddy sounds cool too, reminds me of the different versions of Pennywise the kids in It see.
@WarrenValion
@WarrenValion 2 жыл бұрын
England's and Jackson's ideas sounded pretty good ngl
@videoj81
@videoj81 4 жыл бұрын
Love this series, thanks for posting
@kurtcobain279489
@kurtcobain279489 4 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for what unmade sequels you'll cover next October. Fingers crossed for the Halloween series.
@LianCasablacks
@LianCasablacks 2 жыл бұрын
It's kinda sad that we are never ever getting another good Freddy Krueger, because Robert E is Freddy and that's it, there is just too much that Robert put into that character that no one would be able to recreate it. It's not like Jason or Myers where you can put some dude that moves in a certain way under the mask and call it a day, Freddy's character is all about Robert's charisma voice and demeanor.
@vsgfilmgroup
@vsgfilmgroup 4 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to have seen the one with the LSD. I mean, come on...Freddy a punching bag for every stoner in Springfield? That right there is Freddy Krueger's hell.
@justindenney-hall5875
@justindenney-hall5875 4 жыл бұрын
Matt Draper I think it's an extreme disappointment that Peter Jackson's script was not produced, I think his concept was brilliant.
@darkwoods1954
@darkwoods1954 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the makers of It Follows bring us a new Nightmare on Elm Street movie. It Follows had a great dream like quality that would bring some class to the franchise.
@montrellwallace2172
@montrellwallace2172 4 жыл бұрын
I Heard New Line Cinema was Rebooting the Series Again Robert and Heather said They Would love come Back to Play their Roles again Since Halloween 2018 was A Big Success at box office it was Announced that Another film was in the Works due to success of Halloween.
@mrsuns10
@mrsuns10 2 жыл бұрын
We need a new Nightmare with Heather and Robert
@strangeavocado9279
@strangeavocado9279 3 жыл бұрын
Robert Englund and Peter Jackson’s movies actually sound really interesting
@natsohigh5552
@natsohigh5552 4 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping with the refreshment of Halloween, they bring back Heather Langencamp for a direct sequel to the original and ignore everything that came after (even though Dream Warriors is my favourite in the franchise)
@mrsuns10
@mrsuns10 2 жыл бұрын
Yea any future nightmare needs to have Heather and Robert in it
@CarlosSuarez-uv3mt
@CarlosSuarez-uv3mt 2 жыл бұрын
Worth mentioning is that Freddy's Dead had a direct sequel in the form of a comic called "A Nightmare On Elm Street: The Beginning" that focused on Maggie having dreams of her father; it was supposed to be a 3-issue comic, but the 3rd issue remains unpublished. Also, there were a series of comics that supposedly took place between Dream Child and Freddy's Dead, Nightmares On Elm Street, which also featured the return of Alice, Nancy and Dr. Gordon.
@CarlyCatharsis
@CarlyCatharsis 3 жыл бұрын
Don't Forget Tuesday Knights; "Running From This Nightmare".
@MauricioVasquezSpirits
@MauricioVasquezSpirits 4 жыл бұрын
I think they should make a sequel to New Nightmare, and go FULL META with it: Have the story take place after Craven’s passing (maybe have him killed by Freddy) and have the funeral contain every cameo possible! Bring back Heather Langenkamp and Johnny Depp! You could even bring back Jackie Earle Haley and poke fun at the reboot. Hell, bring in the cast from Scream too! Have them come to Wes’ funeral and everybody praises him for what a genius he was. Have the plot be that now that Wes has passed, Freddy plans to escape into the real world again and that the only way to keep him trapped in his world is to write another Freddy movie! Robert Englund could play Freddy one more time and also play himself talking about how he wants to retire the character and pass it onto Kevin Bacon. THEN you have a Freddy kill Englund and take in the form of Bacon while he continues on his killing spree! In the end, Freddy’s defeated, and they continue making Freddy movies. This could be a really clever transition to maybe start a new reboot series with Bacon in the role.
@kommissar.murphy
@kommissar.murphy 2 жыл бұрын
I love this! Can we open with Johnny Depp in court, nodding off while the lawyers drone on? Suddenly he is startled by the scraping of steel claws. The judge, jury and lawyers are all frozen like statues. Nobody moves except... Amber Heard, who's razor-sharp fingers flay the skin from her face revealing the burned visage of an old friend in a red and green sweater.....
@DASKADiscusses
@DASKADiscusses 4 жыл бұрын
Nice vid mate 👍🏻👍🏻 had no idea about some of these
@colliric
@colliric 3 жыл бұрын
Robert Englund should return using some de-aging or voicing Freddy. They should go with the plot of him being weakened and the teens making fun of him. Only for him to refind his mojo. That was a great idea.
@captcrais101
@captcrais101 4 жыл бұрын
I met Robert at comic con and got his autograph on my Nightmare box set. It was awesome.
@otaking3582
@otaking3582 4 жыл бұрын
Some of these ideas actually made it into other media, such as Nancy being a dream guardian in one of the comic series
@asc6911
@asc6911 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing as the world is obsessed with franchises and interconnecting film series' they just need to make a Freddy, Michael Myers, Jason, Leatherface, Chucky crossover where they're all in hell and Pinhead gives whoever gets the most kills in one night the chance to return to earth. Just make it completely insane and have outrageous death scenes.
@arielgonzalorodriguez8728
@arielgonzalorodriguez8728 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do Child's Play next year? Oh, what am I saying! I'll what anything in this annual series!
@MattDraper
@MattDraper 4 жыл бұрын
I think Child's Play would be really interesting!
@j-money2295
@j-money2295 4 жыл бұрын
Matt Draper Or maybe Halloween?
@alienboy1322
@alienboy1322 4 жыл бұрын
@@MattDraper Do it NOW!! Please!!!
@levidu99
@levidu99 4 жыл бұрын
I second the idea, people underestimate how consistently good that franchise is compared to other horror franchises
@tompadfoot3065
@tompadfoot3065 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in seeing Matt's take on it. The CP franchise suffered the same fate as NOES in that the villain became progressively goofier and shock-comedy overrode the horror. Even the Netflix sequels are pretty terrible. I love Brad Dourif, but that's a franchise that needs a serious enema. And the new one, while interesting from a theming standpoint (what happens when we create an AI that desires companionship only to reject it), ultimately it fell flat.
@phantomspydj
@phantomspydj 3 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing years ago that Robert Englund was interested in doing another Freddy VS Movie. This time he wanted to take on Michael Myers. I had an idea for a Nightmare On Elm St movie. My take you would not see Freddy right away in this movie. It would be a slow build up
@no1wonderfan921
@no1wonderfan921 3 жыл бұрын
I always hoped they'd make the one where Nancy was basically the goddess/guardian of dreams and Freddy's equal.
@onemorerep6597
@onemorerep6597 4 жыл бұрын
Dude I just bought the first one at Walmart I love this series. And i cant believe I never heard of your channel! I love your channel you got a new sub.
@agnethaladuff8559
@agnethaladuff8559 Жыл бұрын
We need a new film industry that will make movies that we really want to see instead of just Hollywood that want to make money from movies that they think we want to see.
@cryhavoc1658
@cryhavoc1658 4 жыл бұрын
I think a prequel style film that showcases freddy's initial crimes and death, then jumps forward to when he's The Nightmare and terrorizing people in the dream world would be really awesome. I think it worked really well for Rob Zombies first Halloween. (Let's not mention his attempt at a second film)
@boomstickcritique902
@boomstickcritique902 3 жыл бұрын
Just watch the TV series that dedicate two episodes to doing a prequel that does just that, lol.
@carlossilva8087
@carlossilva8087 2 жыл бұрын
Well they could the same as in the series with a much higher budget
@mr.badass9442
@mr.badass9442 3 жыл бұрын
I would make a nightmare movie where freddy possesses a school therapist,He would convince the kids to him their greatest fears,and freddy goes into their dreams to kill them in his classic creative but horrific ways.
@Horrormaster13
@Horrormaster13 4 жыл бұрын
Damn! I really wish Peter Jackson's The Dream Lover would have been the Part 6 of the Franchise instead of the Dumpster Fire we got with Freddy's Dead.
@nathanforester5993
@nathanforester5993 4 жыл бұрын
There was a Freddy in hell movie idea that was going to get made but that pretty much got halted thanks to Little Nicky. Yes, you heard that right...a Sandler movie stopped the chances of a movie about Freddy in hell happening.
@jameswilliamstreet
@jameswilliamstreet 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Kevin Bacon as Freddy. Especially if one of the Nightmares involves Graboids.
@MrEXtraRaw
@MrEXtraRaw 3 жыл бұрын
*"Freddy Goes To Camp" would be a good sequel.*
@zmbdog
@zmbdog 2 жыл бұрын
You missed some of the unmade concepts for Part 5. It's hard to recall them offhand but there was an article in Fango at the time that went into them.
@zmbdog
@zmbdog 2 жыл бұрын
The Dream Police? I wonder if they would've licensed the Cheap Trick song.
@JohnClark-tt2bl
@JohnClark-tt2bl 3 жыл бұрын
Still wish we could have Freddy vs Jason vs Ash. Would be so badass...
@user-jn1wm3tb8v
@user-jn1wm3tb8v 3 жыл бұрын
The multiple interpretations of Freddy from the kids is the best. And if people want the classic Freddy there could be one of their parents who was actually around to experience Freddy during the 80s, being the Freddy we know and love.
@star_kitten110
@star_kitten110 4 жыл бұрын
the elm street comic series from innovation was the best-unmade sequel. nancy returned as the keeper of the good dream, assisted by the souls of the deceased dream warriors. Alice and her kid return. Freddy has a girl helping him in the real world like Jesse in part two. it basically should have been part 6 tying everything up from the first 5 movies
@CaptainSpalding72
@CaptainSpalding72 3 жыл бұрын
Dream Warriors is the best one.
@ryanjavierortega8513
@ryanjavierortega8513 2 жыл бұрын
The way Jackson had kids choking themselves to faint and fight Freddy was really cool
@Trakinasnove
@Trakinasnove 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Matt, always cool to see these What If's. But when are you going to talk about John Carpenter's Dark Star and the greatest alien ever comitted to film?
@MattDraper
@MattDraper 4 жыл бұрын
The beach ball? That would be uhhhh interesting.
@Trakinasnove
@Trakinasnove 4 жыл бұрын
@@MattDraper BEST. ALIEN. EVER! Fight me! (not really)
@hyperspeed2272
@hyperspeed2272 2 жыл бұрын
I just binge watched all of your reboot videos while playing Overwatch, thank you good sir.
@dillonfisher7615
@dillonfisher7615 4 жыл бұрын
As much as I would love for Robert to come back, I think studios need to respect his wishes and just cast someone new already. He's said on multiple occasions that he was done putting the makeup on. Yet somehow they always talk him into it again. Cast a new Freddy, and have Robert cameo in the new film.
@jeremyschmidt7163
@jeremyschmidt7163 4 жыл бұрын
They did that and it sucked.
@dillonfisher7615
@dillonfisher7615 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyschmidt7163 Alot of fans think Haley was actually decent with his performance. I think he would be a great new Freddy. The problem was the movie around him, it didn't seem like many people on the set cared much.
@jimmy2k4o
@jimmy2k4o 4 жыл бұрын
Bring back Jackie Hayley he was the best thing in that bad movie.
@brandonspain12345
@brandonspain12345 2 жыл бұрын
7:48 It was actually written in 1999 by the Final Destination writer Jeffery Riddick who was a hardcore fan of the series pitched the studio a prequel and they wanted it to compete with Jason X - both films would be side projects while Freddy vs. Jason was in development. And Jason X would take place in the future while A Nightmare on Elm Street: First Kills would be in the past. Also 8:22 is false. The real reason why it was shelved was that the studio wanted Adam Sandler (🤦) as unburned Freddy instead of Robert Englund to gain more success but due to their recent film also starring Adam Sandler, Little Nicky (2000) being a huge box office and critical failure, the idea of "First Kills" was... killed. Adam Sandler ruining a potentially good movie? Figures. 😞
@cutwir3317
@cutwir3317 4 жыл бұрын
The developers of Stranger things should make a tv series of this.
@dreda-rell3484
@dreda-rell3484 4 жыл бұрын
That'd be dope asf
@jboao
@jboao 4 жыл бұрын
Nah we have enough shows of movies now, that ruin things
@splash_067
@splash_067 3 жыл бұрын
Season 1 was the only good season
@MidnightsEdgeAfterDark
@MidnightsEdgeAfterDark 4 жыл бұрын
*Note: they started the trend of "killing off the main killer" technically. Since NO ONE thought Friday 4 (7 years prior) was really the 'final chapter'
@DeltaAssaultGaming
@DeltaAssaultGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt, just a suggestion: maybe do Mark Gruenwald’s Squadron Supreme for your next comics video? It’s such an underrated gem even among comics fandom.
@OomaGooma
@OomaGooma 4 жыл бұрын
I second this idea.
@jamesstewart1598
@jamesstewart1598 4 жыл бұрын
They should have gotten into dream police, DHS, and a Dream Queen.
@TravioliRavioli
@TravioliRavioli 4 жыл бұрын
so sad to see this video cause it hits me with the reality that that there will not be a new series of freddy and jason anymore, too bad they weren’t creative or even brave enough with the remakes and try new things and basically just made reboots in hd and somehow even less creepy in many parts then the originals
@jameswagstaff984
@jameswagstaff984 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know about movies but a Nightmare on elm street video game in the style of telltale games or until dawn were your choice and actions effect the story, plus it allows Robert to play the roll again
@noholdingback4347
@noholdingback4347 4 жыл бұрын
Just watched the holy franchise this week and ...wow! Dream Warriors is my favourite!
@kang6914
@kang6914 3 жыл бұрын
I like the dream police one. I also think they should sort of remake the concept from Freddy vs Jason where people forgot about Freddy but then slowly remember.
@edgeej.drezwell3736
@edgeej.drezwell3736 4 жыл бұрын
This was great. Very, very great review.
@dreda-rell3484
@dreda-rell3484 4 жыл бұрын
They should have ended the franchise after 3 honestly.
@Stigmatix666
@Stigmatix666 4 жыл бұрын
Yup!
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Nancy dying but in her last moments holding Freddy off in the dream world while Neil killed him for good in the real world by burying his corpse and putting him to rest destroying his soul in dreams was a great ending.
@SteveRudzinski
@SteveRudzinski 4 жыл бұрын
I think 4 was the best possible ending for the franchise.
@dreda-rell3484
@dreda-rell3484 4 жыл бұрын
@@SteveRudzinski 4 wasn't bad. But 3 was far stronger imo.
@liamroscoe596
@liamroscoe596 4 жыл бұрын
No cos then new nightmare and Freddy vs Jason wouldn’t have happened!
@SnapperChannel
@SnapperChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I’m actually planning on watching the original Nightmare on Elm Street soon. I find it interesting how these horror franchises have so many sequels and so many cancelled projects. Great video and I have to ask if the Elm Street sequels are worth watching.
@MattDraper
@MattDraper 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I think 2 is interesting, 3 is a good sequel, 4 is very flawed, 5 is bad, 6 is horrible, New Nightmare is good, Freddy vs Jason is whatever, and the remake is completely unnecessary.
@SnapperChannel
@SnapperChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Matt Draper Thank you
@dead0ntime
@dead0ntime 4 жыл бұрын
Matt Draper I mean that’s the only rational opinion isn’t it??
@rodneyford8
@rodneyford8 4 жыл бұрын
The version of him being weakened would have been a pretty good idea honestly
@carlossilva8087
@carlossilva8087 2 жыл бұрын
Plus it would be Peter Jackson a very creative director. I doubt it would be bad.
@edgeej.drezwell3736
@edgeej.drezwell3736 4 жыл бұрын
I always missed that...Freddy's Nightmares TV Series. Was great.
@maldon3659
@maldon3659 4 жыл бұрын
Freddy looks hilarious in the 2010 remake
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