A "legal" student-teacher situation

[@sarahskye2215]

A teacher from my old high school has been sleeping with students as soon as they graduate. Illegal? No. Disgusting? Absolutely. He’s gotten away with it for many years. I hope he one day faces consequences.

[@Julia-gb3mb]

It IS illegal cause that's called GROOMING

[@krrr.4902]

Let's hope he suddenly identifies as a woman because apparently ONLY when trans people are involved americans get prettty uptight about consent and grooming. Sick people like that teacher get congratulations in the proverbial locker room, trans people get unalived for.. anything, really.

[@pisceanbeauty2503]

Is he still a teacher there? It may not be illegal, but there can be employment consequences for that behavior.

[@Florilegium1]

You should contact the school about that. Even if it’s not illegal, the fact that him doing it is public knowledge might scare the school into taking action

[@LordDuff]

@@DellikkilleD If it's against any ethics code that he's adhered to yes. Also, it's unethical as hell whether he's under a code or not, and if I was a parent I'd certainly want to know my children were safe at school, and not being being groomed by a predator.

[@c2thefuture]

Im in my mid 20s and dont pursue anyone under the age of 20. Idk how these animals think they can get away with this shit

[@hermitcard4654]

So sus...

[@galaxyowl1111]

​@@hermitcard4654they're saying they won't date anyone under the age of 20, how is that sus? I'm 22 and refuse to date anyone under 20 as well.

[@MonolithicCyanTsunami]

“I laugh so I don’t start screaming.” Very very relatable

[@missspell4897]

I wonder if he would see the huge difference between 18 and 33 if it came to like his prison sentence? What's 15 years? It's not like you would come out of prison any different without those extra 15 years of life served in prison right?

[@Konchok_Dawa]

Omg I'm a high school teacher and even texting a student is such a flagrant boundary violation, stories like this send shivers down my spine. There's NEVER any justification for a teacher to communicate with their student outside of school.

[@clairebear-96]

Whoever came forward saying “well she was trying to sleep with him” Okay and? She was a teenager, underage, and a student of his. Teenagers do dumb things, adults have the responsibility to not go along with it. If you’re a teacher and a student is trying to sleep with you, it’s on YOU not to do that, and if it does happen, it’s on you. Even if the teenager was the one trying to initiate things/also wanted it, they’re not the one in the wrong and imo it doesn’t make a difference at all.

[@sabsain2399]

rip this reply section

[@happyhogan40]

She was 18 it's weird yeah but still

[@SavageMinnow]

I am a survivor of CSA and every once in a while I see someone put this kind of sh/t into perspective for me, and I have to say, I appreciate it. I don't have kids, but if I ever do, I will need to rely on others to let me know what type of relationships are appropriate for my child, because my brain doesn't see it until someone points it out. It seems obvious after, but if you don't realize, you don't realize. Thank you, Gulia

[@rydz656]

Lol you must've been so oblivious.

[@hannahmiller4663]

We get a lot of things from our parents and the world around us. One of those is boundaries. For a lot of people, you lend your child a good amount of boundaries, but if you are told not to say no, or if somethone is completely overstepping boundaries and it is not addressed as wrong by anybody else, you may never know. It is okay fella, you are learn'in.

[@akirashiori6265]

@@rydz656yeah, kids are oblivious, that’s why it’s wrong to take advantage of them. Like?? Op just said they’re a CSA survivor, what else did you think that entailed? I get it’s easy to say “what was she wearing” or “you’re dumb if you fell for that” but why shame the victim when the perpetrator is the one at fault? They’re the ones *targeting* these people

[@JohnSmith-zw8vp]

Legal perhaps but totally against the student-teacher code!

[@itsjustshelbs]

the way this literally happened 2-3 hours away from where I live. hadn't actually heard about this one until now, so your coverage of things like this is always appreciated

[@Kimb24601]

I live in Calgary, and hadn’t heard about this but it’s disgusting. This teacher needs to be sent to prison for a VERY looooooooong time.

[@Gulgathydra]

This crap gets called out at least once a year in that province.

[@MiissMeW]

So disgusting. 🤢 Im sure administrators were aware of the rumours long before

[@Kimb24601]

@ They had to be. Sounds like this jackass was anything but inconspicuous.

[@aimeehug9845]

sadly he likely won’t. canada is weak on crime and especially s/o

[@Kimb24601]

@@aimeehug9845 sad but true and Alberta is particularly egregious

[@heyGV8]

thank you for covering this ❤️❤️ The girl is honestly one of the sweetest, most loyal, and gorgeous people I’ve met . I admire that she came out with this once hearing that other people were hurt by him and saw it was not right. please like this video to give attention to this case as bc no one rly talked ab it.

[@VexZenith42]

I’ve been teaching 16 years and at no stage this is OK!!! 😮😮😮😮

[@hermitcard4654]

I HATE TEACHERS!!!

[@WilliamBrowning]

'Technically correct'" is the best kind of 'correct'. "Technically legal" is the *worst* kind of 'legal'.

[@Elvoalven]

A teacher hit on me at my drama school graduation party. I was 23 at the time, but it still really bothered me afterwards.

[@fangirley4401]

Technically not illegal? Its definitely illegal The victim claims that the sexual encounters happened BEFORE she was 18 Talking about wether its legal or not now is not the most important part He engaged with her when she was a minor Now if no sexual interaction happen before until she did turn 18, thatd be grooming, it is still even grooming He abused his power He downplayed the age gap And he told her not to tell anyone, why? Cuz he knows its bad, and that it is in fact illegal and that he was in fact SA and grooming her - Now The other person who claims she wanted to sleep with Selby Say if thats true, that does not matter at all You can state it sure, but it doesn’t do anything He Still Engaged He was an adult She was a minor Does that mean he just gave in? As the adult? And the person with power and who does have contact with her parents who Selby couldve called and say that their daughter is being inappropriate And even if he did call her parents to say, doesnt matter, because he still did it He did not have to, ik damn well and like 99.99999999% sure that she didnt force him, and that he was given no choice He is at all fault Even if she had some.. participation (highly doubt) to enforce a sexual interaction, he is still 100% to blame It is you, as an adult, to not allow this, and he did - A lil off topic btw Just a tad For exact situations like these is why i am FULLY speaking out about putting cameras in classrooms It is absolutely ridiculous, gross, and cheap to already not be having cameras in classrooms For the safety for everyone, especially the students

[@soupyweb]

You’re 100% correct

[@Lav3nd3r0h]

Yes I'm surprised she didn't catch it herself, that even though the victim was old enough to consent in her state there's the additional clause that the older person can't be a teacher, coach, employer, or anyone in a position of power over the victim. That was clearly violated here.

[@happyhogan40]

Oh he groomed her? I thought he met her at 18 and everything stared that's fucked up

[@fangirley4401]

@@happyhogan40 sexual interaction happened before 18 Even if it didnt, and only started with she did turn 18, it would still be considered as grooming He knew this girl when she was young, and has this sort of power over her that he took advantage of Even when growing up, or in this case “growing up” she may be older but that doesnt make her more mature, the power dynamic never changes, if i saw my teachers now that i had in middle school, theyre still my teachers, i cant imagine seeing them any more than that even as just friends He has control over her grades He has control over her in a way He knows this He took advantage of it

[@xdrewbz]

Just a bit of context for non-Canadians, in Alberta 18 is legal age for everything (drinking, voting, tobacco, gambling). While other parts of the country legal age for anything but voting is 19.

[@RhinoaLunar]

As an educator I’m appalled by this behavior. I work with high school students and while I agree friendliness often helps build trust with students but that’s so they know they can come to me if they need help or have a problem. That’s it. My students are subordinate to me in my classroom. That creates an obvious power dynamic. I don’t care if it’s legal. It’s gross. I want nothing to do with kids other than to help them and hopefully pass on knowledge to them.

[@o.o6340]

Yeah, I think a lot of people base their morality and ethics based on the legality of it- which is a fucked up, shallow, empty way to live. No teacher should be texting their students no less forming an relationship with them that leaks outside the classroom. A fully grown 30+ year old man should not be flirting with a high school girl a lil over half his age. Why isn't that a no-brainier?

[@JokerzPrincezz]

I am a teacher myself. This year I began working with my old choir teacher, despite the fact that it’s been nearly 20 years since he has any authority over me, he is still Mr. - in my head and he always will be. There is NEVER a situation where it is even REMOTELY ok to be involved with a student or former student. Period, the end.

[@sabreena5611]

Yuck. Nope. So much nope.

[@PetThePeeves]

I have former students that are 25 that still call me Miss. (I taught them in middle school) because they’ll always see me as their teacher. Of course they can use my first name, but they don’t because it’s weird to them. Proving the point that this entire thing is just so very…🤮

[@EvenningASMR]

In MANY places, the age of consent is only applicable if the other party is 21 or under. He started a romantic relationship with a student BEFORE she was 18. Or they wouldn’t have been able to have sex “immediately”. He’s a predator. She’s special and “so mature for her age.” Calling a CHILD sexy. Sick. Teachers DO NOT, and will not ask for your phone number, kids. For any reason. If they do, tell someone immediately.

[@aliyah6311]

This has to be a thing among certain teachers. One of my English teachers from high school had the exact same MO, he would get really friendly and close with the girls in his class and other classes, and once they graduated he would seek them out. One of the girls wrote and published an “essay” on her experience and I’ll never forget it. He made her think they would be married and run away together. She kept them a secret from everyone in her life for a few years. She also began to suspect that there were others (students). She found that there wasn’t one year that went by where he wouldn’t groom one of his former students. It was all pretty shocking when it all went down. One day he was at the school teaching, next day he turned himself in to prevent being arrested during class. He was my favourite English teacher, he was very charismatic. He had everyone fooled.

[@blu3622]

I graduated in 1999 in the U.S. for context, an algebra teacher had an affair with one of his students. She was 18, but he was in his early 40s.... ugh. It was common knowledge because he actually had divorced his wife of 20 years and married his former student a few months after she graduated. Our board of education seemed to turn a blind eye to it due to the teacher's tenure, and teachers union.

[@iancuneo1820]

I accidentally matched with my teacher on Grindr about a year after i graduated. Instead of being a creep he decided to do the appropriate thing and unmatched me. Idk how teachers think things are ok even after the student is 18 and graduated

[@0hd333r]

When you said the city name my jaw DROPPED this monster lives in my fucking city?!?

[@thetalker221]

This happens at every school I am convinced, it happened at mine and more and more comes out about other schools every year. It’s not always super publicized but I believe it happens a lot more than we could even imagine.

[@robinknight2251]

Just for context, drinking and weed are legal at 18 in Alberta. So the underage drinking part is not as egregious, though, drinking with your high-school teacher is gross.

[@heyGV8]

She was still 17, he just waited for her to graduate.

[@alessandrajackson3768]

I’m 25. There is a HUGE difference of who I was at 18 and 25, so I can’t even imagine the difference between 18 and 33!

[@Noel-s1c3p]

Thank You and Stay Safe from Australia ✌️✌️😎👍

[@blu3622]

There's a big "gray area" in between what's legal, and what is ethical.

[@Maestrosendgame]

There’s a similar post on instagram about a 19 year old man dating a 37 year old woman and I said how it’s still wrong and yet several people disagreed

[@monotypical_]

It’s legal and there’s nothing wrong with it besides it being disgusting. Disgusting doesn’t equal bad morality. Get over yourself

[@chelyv]

But why did you call the 19 year old a man and the 37 year old a girl? 😅 she is a woman

[@Maestrosendgame]

@ force of habit one sec

[@Maestrosendgame]

@@monotypical_ where in my sentence did I say it was wrong legally? I said it’s wrong because that lady is almost old enough to be his parent. So why don’t you take your own advice about getting over yourself. Also yes it does equal to it being morally wrong and disgusting

[@monotypical_]

@@Maestrosendgame I never said anything about legality. I’m sorry that you wear a helmet and can’t read properly. Maybe you should go back on the short bus instead of taking what i said out of context. I said that’s an adult. Therefore, it isn’t wrong. It’s disgusting and I’d never do it but they’re 2 grown adults. I don’t care 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@johnshaffer3405]

There is a reason why we have the phrase "Jail Bait Wait".

[@godlessfornicater]

I stopped realising I age as I get older. So I THINK I'm not changing.... Until I speak to someone younger and I realise how we are in completely different world and I notice my age.

[@fruitsnac9088]

Not this gross male teacher saying "oh it would ruin my career/life if you told anybody" like,um what about her life? People like this are always so selfish

[@simplydollie]

dude, why is it that nearly everyone has a pedo teacher story. I HAVE 2

[@knothanks]

I'm from Calgary and I'm sure its like this in other places but when I was in high-school we were not allowed to wear any type of "revealing" clothing. I was in high-school in the 90s so think belly tops, low rise pants etc. We had to cover up at school. It wasn't until many years later someone said to me that this covering up policy wasn't for us kids but more so for any pervy adults so they didn't look at us. So disgusting.

[@andreabarrientes2652]

The SUPER INTENDANT of my school district was fired for having relations with staff (including married staff) and students! His daughter was in the same grade as me and I felt so awful for her. He was/(maybe still is) married to her mom when this happened. Situations like this make me reflect on what’s happened close to home and it’s really crazy how many pedophiles/creeps live among us and children

[@slendercrescents]

There is a famous literature teacher and pillar of the community type person in my hometown. He used to mentor me because I opted to take advanced Hungarian exams. This guy at the time had a 19 year old girlfriend fresh out of his school where he taught (he was around 30-31 at the time). There were multiple incidents where parents reported that he was dancing inappropriately with girls at prom. His last girlfriend I knew of, he started dating when she was 17 and his student. This keeps going on and other than warnings, there are no repercussions. Intimacy is legal with minors above 14 but school rules may or may not forbid such a relationship... It's really weird.

[@hollyerorabaugh4406]

Absolutely unacceptable bc he probably was waiting on her to turn “of age” watching her etc. it’s a student.. wtf? Predatory

[@MidwestArtist]

So gross 🤢

[@myriadhues457]

"unless the other party is in a position of power" the relationship was initiated by this 33-yr old teacher while the 17-year-old was enrolled in school. It still counts as illegal in Canadian law. The 33-yr old was in a position of power over the 17 year old. Absolutely this girl was gr00med by this total creep. the age for consumption of alcohol is 18 in Canada, but still extremely concerning that a grown @$$ man is offering someone so much younger than him alcohol after pretty much sneaking her in his house.

[@SadMafiosoSadMafioso]

Now, do a story about Nicole MacLeod, Tatamagouche School Teacher in Nova Scotia.

[@Snake-yx1dq]

I remember a story from Reddit where a girl in college or after early twenties ran into a teacher she had a crush on. She asked if he wanted coffee and he said no your my student.

[@LilyMaeBrass]

This is insane and eerily similar to something that nearly happened to me. (I recognized something was off, I didn’t know to what extent until I got older)

[@krissyhenderson4089]

I was 20 and staying at my 48 year old professors house. Dark times 😂

[@calgaryboudoir_studionova]

Me in Calgary: 😮

[@cjb2749]

I need that shirt. Desperately

[@Rose_from_UK]

What an arsehole. I was horribly exploited when i was 17 by older men, they all wanted to “take” my virginity. None f them got to ,but one of them made me feel special and only now do i realise how bad it was. They were 25

[@BJM1134]

I mean, in these situations i dunno how people dont stop and think "what if this was my daughter?" ... because i can tell you how id feel if it was mine.

[@AshWilliams376]

It's so odd how common it is to hear teaches sleeping with students. Absolutely disturbing. I remember a cop sleeping with a girl in my class in high-school. Coaches would flirt with the girls. Just over it. Thanks for the upload have a good day.

[@laymayday]

I hate when people are talking as if morality is the same as legality! It’s legal for an adult to have sex with and date a 16 year old (!!!) in my country 🤢 In a way it kinda feels like it’s as low as 16 to protect that disgusting adult that are going after people under 20. The poor adult that gets tricked by that evil child(sarcasm)😮‍💨 I always believed that the reason why it was that low was to protect those whom are within a reasonable age range, but I was unfortunately very wrong.

[@mickeyrube6623]

2:39 No, the age of consent is not 16. It's 16, UNLESS, one is in authority etc, etc. The was his teacher. So it was illegal. Why are you framing it like morality vs. legality? It was immoral, but that don't matter. Just saying it was illegal is enough.

[@Gulgathydra]

100% correct

[@thetalker221]

I had teachers that wouldn’t even let us be friends on Facebook until we graduated, not in a weird way just as a boundary, and we have teachers giving out their phone numbers to students. I feel like the texting prior to this student graduating is in grooming territory unless there is proof that the texting was purely education based

[@Animefan1451]

Honestly i don't view it as legal given it started when she was 17

[@that1pretty.potprincess779]

brooo no i live in calgary!!!!

[@fruitsnac9088]

Ive had teachers asd me/ message me on facebook once i left school. Its a problem

[@chellastation]

This whole situation is disturbing. Even if the girl is in the age of consent, the teacher went too far. I believe the age of consent should be above 21.

[@amandaredd3057]

Dreamy? Huh. Well, any-who, there's bound to be something very wrong with any person his age perusing the attentions of a teenager. If someone that age has anything legitimately in common with a person her age, that's a big red flag

[@unicorn_bones]

Oh my God I dated this guy

[@nonnidreams]

The part about everyone noticed it was not okay. Seems a confused comment Most people noticed it was not okay. The boyfriend of the girl. And her realizing he did it with more students. Probably, more than one. Some students are trying to defend the teacher, by saying she wanted to sleep with him. Makes me sick. How some will want to always defend a sneaky predator. Been naive and wanting to see someone as innocent. The teacher did cross a moral line. He should face consequences. Definitely, not allowed to be a teacher anymore. At least. Or any job with vulnerable youth and kids.

[@itsMeUhDanii]

Looking stunning babe🤍

[@shadybrooks8174]

He must've done something she didn't like, so she decided to retaliate

[@graveyardbaby669]

Daydream nation

[@spooky-spaghetti]

this is why it's important to be cognisant of how morality and legality is unfortunately not equivalent. the legal system is heavily too lenient when it comes to sexual crimes. the best u can do is support victims and campaign for policy changes. unfortunately that's going to be massively difficult now trump is the next president.

[@NeuroSpicy_Priestess]

I'm 5 years older than my husband, me 26, 27 next month, and him 22. Been married 3 years. We met when we were BOTH children and our families have been close for over a decade. I did homeschool with them as well. Both of our parents were very aware, as well as everyone close to us. 95% of our dates were at his parent's house or my parent's house, by MY choice. To me, age gaps where one party is age of consent or older, if the older person wasn't an adult at the time of meeting the child, is a lot more acceptable than 1) being in authority over them 2) meeting as adult and child rather than child and child, and 3) hiding from everyone because you know/feel that it is wrong. If you have to hide it, what are your intentions or motives? I always went for older men and endured so much trauma. With my husband, not only has he grown, but so have I. My relationship with my mother has also improved because of how I'm able to communicate with her, due to my growth. Overall, how did the parties meet and what is the intentions of the older individual. Why am I putting myself at risk for others to still be upset? Because I'm not hiding it. Why would I? I've been groomed from 3-17 so I was very aware of my actions, intentions, and motives. I'm also sharing this to show the difference between meeting as two children and fostering a deep childhood friendship versus meeting as Adult teacher and child student.

[@david-dj8or]

Sometimes there are ones who don't even know they were a "victim" till they look up the rule book. Then they tell of the trauma and sometimes they will receive a payout.

[@TakaChan569]

Hey if a 20 something female influencers can date 14/16 yo boys then why are people throwing a fit about this lol.

[@Maestrosendgame]

@@TakaChan569 most still aren’t cool with it. It’s just their dumb fans with no morals are the problem who say otherwise

[@anjallama4986]

If 20-year-olds are dating 14-year-olds, they deserve to be in jail.

[@heyGV8]

She was still 17 and the teacher gave her substances and slept with her??? Both situations are wrong. You don’t turn a blind eye just bc there’s something worse somewhere else the fuck?

[@TakaChan569]

@@anjallama4986 And your 100% right, but they seem free to do so...society is kinda backwards af these days lol.

[@Emptytopfloor]

@@TakaChan569report them.

[@fruitsnac9088]

Ive had teachers asd me/ message me on facebook once i left school. Its a problem