A Look at the Canucks' Changes and Potential Lines for Next Season

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19 күн бұрын

I do think they're still going to be a playoff team in 2025, but they need another defenseman or two.
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@paul.dhaliwal
@paul.dhaliwal 17 күн бұрын
Can’t split up that third line that worked so well last year
@matthewjudge3763
@matthewjudge3763 17 күн бұрын
@@paul.dhaliwal I wanna see Petterson between Josh and Garly.
@fbsiubvsitdhdhjuk
@fbsiubvsitdhdhjuk 17 күн бұрын
​@@matthewjudge3763No. Petey needs to get his own line going.
@chadrichards6607
@chadrichards6607 16 күн бұрын
that was last year
@MrFernandes85
@MrFernandes85 16 күн бұрын
@@chadrichards6607 for 58 minutes total
@jayb4779
@jayb4779 15 күн бұрын
Yes I agree why split up that magic
@squiggleface3631
@squiggleface3631 17 күн бұрын
I feel cautiously optimistic. Often a breakout year might be followed by a step back. I'm hoping this doesn't happen to the Canucks like it did after their playoff success in the playoff bubble of 2020. I'm cheering for my local team but I've been burned too many times with my lofty expectations.
@J-jizzy_
@J-jizzy_ 17 күн бұрын
I think they will have a season with the same record, but with lower highs and higher lows. I expect it to be a very consistent season in terms of goal%.
@ajbolt7
@ajbolt7 17 күн бұрын
If nothing else, the 2020 off-season was an absolute disaster and it was crystal clear the roster was worse going into the 2020-21 season. This hasn’t been something like that. I’m expecting a step back this year after the breakout season but what happened after the 2020 playoffs was far more extreme than just a step back lmao
@Ryyder64
@Ryyder64 17 күн бұрын
Hey! No reason to talk about the devils like that! 😂
@johnnybaxter1953
@johnnybaxter1953 17 күн бұрын
Completely different situation. They are not even remotely comparable
@r_v_t_
@r_v_t_ 17 күн бұрын
think we'll take a step back but I feel better about the rest of division (excluding Oilers) than this time last year.
@nyern
@nyern 17 күн бұрын
Hoping to see two Elias Petterssons confusing every announcer this season
@kellismith4329
@kellismith4329 17 күн бұрын
They can pull masks like the Killer Bees
@brandonliu596
@brandonliu596 16 күн бұрын
They had the Sedins for decades I think they can handle it😂
@GWh135
@GWh135 16 күн бұрын
@@brandonliu596 The Sedins had different first names. Definitely not the same thing
@Just-a-Canuck
@Just-a-Canuck 16 күн бұрын
D petty making the team this year?!?’ That would be wild! I can’t wait for a all swede stud d line of D petty and willander
@chrisgoodings4450
@chrisgoodings4450 17 күн бұрын
I dont think you split up Garland and Joshua. Miller centering those 2 would be an insane line.
@Just-a-Canuck
@Just-a-Canuck 16 күн бұрын
Oh yea, I honestly didn’t think about miller between those guys. Debrusk petty boeser Joshua miller garland If that worked it would be wicked
@dinarseklers4409
@dinarseklers4409 11 күн бұрын
Really liked Garland-Joshua-Blueger trio doing well last season
@bimjenning6962
@bimjenning6962 17 күн бұрын
Hope Lekkerimaki has a good camp and starts off on EP40’s wing. If he’s ready for NHL minutes that makes things very interesting for Toch
@trevorscollon
@trevorscollon 17 күн бұрын
@bimjenning6962 it's unrealistic that Lekk cracks the opening night roster. It's better for his development to give him the full season in Abby.
@bzhouka9679
@bzhouka9679 17 күн бұрын
@@bimjenning6962 his game is still very raw and he needs ironing out on the d side of the puck and his off puck positioning
@johnnybaxter1953
@johnnybaxter1953 17 күн бұрын
@@trevorscollon Yes that’s why he used the word “hope”
@nicholaslouie7590
@nicholaslouie7590 17 күн бұрын
@@trevorscollon Tocchet gets the final say in that, if he ends up looking ready then it's hard to pass up.
@420camk
@420camk 17 күн бұрын
@@bimjenning6962 He's likely starting in Abby. Might see him come up for a couple games this season though. Even if he does kill it at training camp, I dont see tochett bumping anyone down out of top 3 lines currently.
@DarkBeoulve
@DarkBeoulve 17 күн бұрын
As Canucks Fan. I like the additions they made. I believe there top six is better now than last year with DeBrusk. Im excited for next season!
@J-jizzy_
@J-jizzy_ 17 күн бұрын
Defensive depth is worse though….
@johnnybaxter1953
@johnnybaxter1953 17 күн бұрын
@@J-jizzy_ They’re going to get another D man before the deadline
@remimk
@remimk 17 күн бұрын
@@J-jizzy_ If hronek can produce like the first half then we'll just need to rely on Demko and Silovs a bit more. and since Tocchet style is very defence heavy then hopefully we'll be okay
@tomv7949
@tomv7949 16 күн бұрын
They didn't have Zadorov until late November so they still had their 12-3-1 start without him with generally the same defense.
@paullarsen4987
@paullarsen4987 13 күн бұрын
Playing Demko less during regular season is a must do. He had double hip surgery to repair impingement, bone on bone and torn labrum as a young man. Hip issues will be more often as he ages. If the Canucks stumble this year he should be traded. That being said he is an amazing goaltender and I will miss him
@darkshadowgamer8627
@darkshadowgamer8627 17 күн бұрын
Wouldn't keeping the third line we had last season be good though given their chemistry?
@Spectra115
@Spectra115 17 күн бұрын
@darkshadowgamer8627 Yeah I love Shannon to bits but I'm glad he's not picking the lines. That third line needs to stick together.
@SMA2343
@SMA2343 17 күн бұрын
@@Spectra115he said he used Cap Friendly’s depth chart
@Spectra115
@Spectra115 17 күн бұрын
@@SMA2343 fair enough, I'm just a huge believer in Garland/Joshua/Bleuger
@johnnybaxter1953
@johnnybaxter1953 17 күн бұрын
Joshua and Garland should stay together. They’re so much better on the same line than they are separately
@hughesfan4343
@hughesfan4343 17 күн бұрын
Debrusk-Petey-Hog Heinen-JT-Boeser Dak-Blueger-Garland Pod-Suter-Sherwood are the right lines for me. I also wouldn't mind swapping Hog and Bowser if Petey struggles again. I trust JT to produce regardless of who he plays with. If Debrusk and Petey work well and Hog starts to struggle I'd like to see Podz given a chance - Maybe has a similar development to Nichuskin (except we hopefully keep him).
@carlyejameson1752
@carlyejameson1752 17 күн бұрын
These are great possible line ups!!
@saedo9723
@saedo9723 17 күн бұрын
i wouldn't mind seeing a joshua-miller-garland line
@fitzy3000
@fitzy3000 17 күн бұрын
That would be awesome
@blackcatsandbooks86
@blackcatsandbooks86 17 күн бұрын
i jus think you can’t split up miller and boeser, when they start goin together they’re magic
@the5thlineplaymaker131
@the5thlineplaymaker131 17 күн бұрын
@@blackcatsandbooks86yea Tocchet will keep them together if they’re both healthy for sure. Idk why everybody is overlooking their great advanced stats and production all season and post season
@debuthunter5389
@debuthunter5389 16 күн бұрын
Joshua Petey Garland maybe
@blackcatsandbooks86
@blackcatsandbooks86 16 күн бұрын
@@debuthunter5389 i could see this happening
@Kinesicz
@Kinesicz 17 күн бұрын
We really need some of our prospects to start producing.
@420camk
@420camk 17 күн бұрын
We don't have many lol and they're all still a year or two away.
@alexstephens8587
@alexstephens8587 17 күн бұрын
Swap Garland and Hoglander and I agree with ya 100%
@ultranate8618
@ultranate8618 16 күн бұрын
That's what I wanna see, too
@HaydenCharette-mr5ul
@HaydenCharette-mr5ul 17 күн бұрын
Desharnais better be a regular with the money they gave him. I'm not a Canucks fan, but I like this roster. This team should at the very least be a good playoff contender.
@RobHFirstReflect
@RobHFirstReflect 17 күн бұрын
We think alike! Everyone's been assuming it'll be JT + Boeser & EP40 + DeBrusk, and then keeping The Life Line together as the 3rd. But to me, that leaves serious deficiencies on the top 2 lines no matter who gets slotted in there. The only thing I'd change right away compared to Shannon's depth chart is swapping Garland and Hoglander. And then it's really about seeing who clicks. I think Hoglander clicks a bit better with Suter than he does with Blueger. So it would be awesome if Heinen happens to have instant chemistry with those two. Could be the second coming of a new Life Line if we get that lucky. DeBrusk --- EP40 --- Boeser Joshua --- JT --- Garland Heinen --- Suter --- Hoglander Sherwood --- Blueger --- Podz What I really like about that structure is that it's super clear and easy how everybody slots up when injuries occur. The Bottom 9 have especially similar types. And I can just picture the Canucks wearing teams down with wave after wave of similar forechecking, creating frustration and power plays. And not much worry having any of those lines out there against any other team's top 2 lines. I'd call it...consistency. And when lines do get shuffled for whatever reason, nobody has to alter their role. The guys can know their assignments and know what's expected of them. I think I like it
@user-kt8kr4cu4h
@user-kt8kr4cu4h 17 күн бұрын
hm, that third line scares me
@kodychong9568
@kodychong9568 17 күн бұрын
​​@@user-kt8kr4cu4h- scares you in a good or bad way lol ????
@Jeff_Ayo
@Jeff_Ayo 17 күн бұрын
I honestly love that lineup, JT could take good years from Joshua and garland and elevate them even more
@vancitycanucks
@vancitycanucks 16 күн бұрын
I agree. Miller can elevate gars and Joshua.
@JH-jw7pu
@JH-jw7pu 15 күн бұрын
I actually really like this! The first line would be high scoring, but that’s a monster of a second line. Imagine going up against those three guys, all of whom have an aggressive style of play.
@comoxvalleycurbappealltd.5311
@comoxvalleycurbappealltd.5311 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for your enlightening insight and thoughts… an intriguing year ahead!
@primomoreau
@primomoreau 17 күн бұрын
Like the additions. But no matter what, in Tocchet we trust to keep everyone pulling the same direction. They need that strong direction.
@RobPlays.OldGames
@RobPlays.OldGames 17 күн бұрын
Good forward depth, solid goaltending if healthy, the D took a step back from the playoffs roster, still a weak division and some cap to work with to add a 3rd pairing LHD. Playoffs a lock i'd bet.
@warrenyellowknee672
@warrenyellowknee672 17 күн бұрын
Hoglander is the dark Hourse this coming up season 20-25 . This is his season to make or break. My fav player on the ice. Always committed & ferocious on the fore check
@synergygaming65
@synergygaming65 13 күн бұрын
Definitely a 'win by committee' lineup
@GR-bn3xj
@GR-bn3xj 17 күн бұрын
I feel good about the team. You always worry about when you have multiple players have breakout seasons if they can do it again. Hopefully the experience from this past season helps us in the playoffs next season. I lived Hoglander in the regular season, but he seemed to disappear during the playoffs
@RM-we7px
@RM-we7px 17 күн бұрын
Rather Debrusk than Guentzel. I’m fine with the moves.
@stevenrosscarpenter
@stevenrosscarpenter 17 күн бұрын
Especially comparing their cap hits. DeBrusk is also bigger and plays tougher.
@Agrewal101
@Agrewal101 17 күн бұрын
Hope we still on for the meet up , it's supposed to be better weather not so hot 👍🏾👍🏾
@yoholmes273
@yoholmes273 17 күн бұрын
As an American 🇺🇸 NJ Devils fan with no dog in this hunt, I will be brief. I always root for Vancouver 🍁 until I can not. " The heritage of the sport is Western Canada 🇨🇦 & despite ... it is still look you in the eye, 👀 answer the question if you can, down to Earth 🌎 people that you love" ❤️ - Doc Emrick 1995
@richardmiller5818
@richardmiller5818 17 күн бұрын
I like the logo
@NathanCase33
@NathanCase33 17 күн бұрын
I like the moves. I agree with we need a top 4 dman
@bjmclennan
@bjmclennan 17 күн бұрын
Hard to see the moves they've made as anything other than positive, but we've definitely got more moves to make if we're looking to make a serious cup run this year. As stated, our defensive depth is severely lacking. Desharnais has been on an upward trend and I'll be interested to see if he can live up to the hype that management seems to be putting into him. Getting a solid puck-mover has to still be the end goal though, and our trade pieces are somewhat limited if that's the agenda. Hoglander or Podkolzin seem like likely candidates if they can't perform to where we want them, and Forbort is probably the easiest move candidate for dmen. Overall very excited to see how things shake down for the team this season, playoffs will be just as exciting as they were this year.
@dungeree7292
@dungeree7292 16 күн бұрын
You won't be making a serious cup run. Your season ends in Edmonton in 5 games max
@user-qj2yb9es4b
@user-qj2yb9es4b 17 күн бұрын
youtube is unsubscribing your subscribers. I was unsubscribed. Love your Channel. KZbin must be censoring the canucks like Sportsnet.
@zjsz4954
@zjsz4954 17 күн бұрын
Oh yeah baby this is what we’ve been waiting for this is what it’s all about
@ryanatkinson9622
@ryanatkinson9622 17 күн бұрын
Canucks had 5 all stars last year. Guentzal would have been great but I think they have more depth this way with the ability to add more. I’m very interested in this season and hoping they can do better. My hopes last year were that they just made the playoffs but they proved they could beat anyone and now I’d like to see them get to the next round and further. I’d say my expectation for this year is at least second round but it’s never easy.
@mattwilliams7454
@mattwilliams7454 17 күн бұрын
Not sure about the debrusk signing yet. Hopefully someone develops chemistry with Pettersson. Zadorov was really nice to have though.
@remimk
@remimk 17 күн бұрын
Yeah unfortunately Kuzmenko was the one with chemistry with him...
@thejanwe2002
@thejanwe2002 17 күн бұрын
What do you think about Kylington? Someone who is more mobile for 2nd/3rd pairing role
@canuckfreak007
@canuckfreak007 15 күн бұрын
Hoglander's last season gave a Cliff Ronning feel to it. I really hope he's able to follow it up with another solid outing. This is the best he's looked since his rookie year.. at least with the big Club
@Kitchenwench69
@Kitchenwench69 17 күн бұрын
The moves were great. The understanding of what type of player this team needs but also making sure they'll align with the system (this may age like milk). And the fact the guys we got seemed legitimately stoked makes it so much more fun
@MySundin13
@MySundin13 17 күн бұрын
One of my fav jerseys....I need to order one sometime
@sloppyjoe4521
@sloppyjoe4521 17 күн бұрын
As much as I like the current 3rd line If we are going to pay garland 4.9m it would be great if he could fit on a line with Petey and Debrusk and have Joshua with Miller and Boeser
@quinnbailey7340
@quinnbailey7340 17 күн бұрын
Hey Shannon. Been following you for years. Love the work you do. I dont think that Boeser moves from Millers side. I think Sherwood is more used to playing the left side too. Right!?? What about McWard as a depth callup?
@clearthesmoke999
@clearthesmoke999 17 күн бұрын
A very objective view as per usual; great synopsis. I'm actually a fan of the Barrie train, let's just keep throwing darts after an overachieving season!
@patrickbaklava7297
@patrickbaklava7297 17 күн бұрын
That hat is so sick
@lizardjesus2501
@lizardjesus2501 17 күн бұрын
Really wish we kept zadorov
@TheHockeyGuy
@TheHockeyGuy 17 күн бұрын
I wish they had too, but I think that contract will age like milk in Boston.
@lizardjesus2501
@lizardjesus2501 17 күн бұрын
@@TheHockeyGuy why ?
@TheHockeyGuy
@TheHockeyGuy 17 күн бұрын
He is turning 30 and physical defensemen who take too many penalties don't age well.
@danielfelzmann7241
@danielfelzmann7241 17 күн бұрын
I think you have one star centre with one star winger, with miller and petey obviously being the centres and boeser and debrusk being the wingers. The other two wingers will should be what all the players are working towarsds with the exception of the joshua blueger garland line.
@troubleondemand7703
@troubleondemand7703 17 күн бұрын
I like the moves they made and the fact that they didn't get sucked into a huge contract with excessive term. Alvin and Rutherford and have shown they can work some magic via trades and pickups so hopefully they can get our D squared away during the season.
@kevjones5047
@kevjones5047 17 күн бұрын
Cautiously optimistic
@rayevans7484
@rayevans7484 17 күн бұрын
I like the direction they've gone, no huge contracts, but some nice depth pieces. I don't think Management is finished, as witnessed by the flexibility with the Cap. There are quite a few teams over the Cap, meaning NHL talent will be available at under the Market prices..
@andrewwhiffen3340
@andrewwhiffen3340 17 күн бұрын
I don’t know if I have the same enthusiasm as you. Joshua and Hoglander as 2nd line wingers just don’t do it for me.
@gordonmacdowell8117
@gordonmacdowell8117 16 күн бұрын
It would be great if the Canucks didn't have dip into their LTIR until after the season starts, because it gives them additional benefits and flexibility to pounce on available players. I like what the Canucks did this offseason, but considering when during the last offseason they got DeSmith and Lafferty, I don't think anyone should think they're done yet. I see them running back that successful third line again this season, because on many nights it was their best line, but there's a question about whether Blueger or Suter centre which of the depth lines. I see the Canucks as continuing to use the new NHL style of doing scoring lines as pairs and plugging in a third player, meaning DeBrusk and Boeser would be on separate lines. Heinen will probably get a shot at Suter's spot on the wing, with Miller and Boeser. Sherwood is a great 4th liner who might move up the roster from time to time, which also gives him the opportunity to take Suter's spot on the wing of a scoring line.
@PixelBoyS2
@PixelBoyS2 17 күн бұрын
I've been waiting for this video. Didn't really care what the other teams were doing 😂😂😂
@JCanucks30
@JCanucks30 15 күн бұрын
Im happy with what we've down to the forward corps. I think Debrusk is an upgrade on Lindholm especially given his age and contract, hopefully he can be the answer to Peteys missing winger, and adding sherwood / heinen gives us really good depth and energizing players. Can see both of them being fan favs next season. There's a lot to be desired defensively - I think signing both Myers and Desharnais was a mistake. It should have been one of the other. Myers had a great season last year but was partly because of his reduced role playing on the bottom pair. If he or Desharnais are relied on to play top 4, I don't think thats a recipe for success. Even if we end up signing a puck moving RD, that results in having Myers / Desharnais healthied, which would be 2-3m in the box. I think saving that salary and combing our remaining cap to Zadorov would have been a wiser move. Perhaps they want to keep the right side open for a Willander appearance after his colege season?? I don't mind Forbort, but we're a Soucy injury away (who is already injury prone) from having him play in our top 4 as well, which is yikes. This seems like a D core that Benning would run, which gives me confidence that there's still a move or 2 left up current management's sleeve. I don't think Allvin and Rutherford are dumb enough to think this is a championship blueline. Or perhaps keep that cap space and make a trade to acquire someone like R. Andersson mid-season.
@andrewgreen815
@andrewgreen815 17 күн бұрын
Looking good again Lotus Land.
@richardwise350
@richardwise350 16 күн бұрын
Looks good, would be nice to add another defense man
@j.t.miller1641
@j.t.miller1641 17 күн бұрын
Joshua Miller Boeser DeBrusk Pettersson Garland Heinen Suter Hoglander Podz/PDG Bleuger Sherwood Forecheckers and finishers on each line. I expect Hoglander to be on pp2 this season so 3rd line minutes would be perfect. Definitely a few combinations can be made
@chillspencer.4637
@chillspencer.4637 17 күн бұрын
Optimistic. All the contracts we signed lately have been reasonable to good deals for us. Success comes down to Demko staying healthy.
@jakerobins9059
@jakerobins9059 17 күн бұрын
So many good forwards that could break into the lineup like Raty and Lekkerimaki that I think we have enough wingers to move one for a D man
@badassunicorn5351
@badassunicorn5351 17 күн бұрын
What about Aiden Celibrini? His brother just signed with SJ, is he not good enough as a defenseman?
@disruptive7640
@disruptive7640 16 күн бұрын
BC hydro with its annual "let's turn off the power during a heatwave"
@mikebaxter247
@mikebaxter247 16 күн бұрын
Seems like the chemistry created last season is earased with these line combos -Miller/boeser, Joshua/garland/bleuger
@squidMB
@squidMB 17 күн бұрын
Hopefully Lekkerimaki somehow makes his way into getting some minutes for the canucks this season.
@glenw-xm5zf
@glenw-xm5zf 14 күн бұрын
I think we drafted well. got more size
@jevereemetcalf2076
@jevereemetcalf2076 17 күн бұрын
You have to keep the Lifeline together, last years 3rd line
@patrickday1816
@patrickday1816 17 күн бұрын
If I'm Tocchet, I'm not putting Hoglander in the top 6 over Garland. Garland is a clutch player, and deserves to play with two other clutch linemates. I'm also playing Sherwood with Suter and Heinen, as there's more untapped potential in Sherwood. Hoglander can hang with Podz and Blueger. Debrusk-Pettersson-Boeser Joshua-Miller-Garland Heinen-Suter-Sherwood Podkolzin-Blueger-Hoglander
@brianpistolwhip
@brianpistolwhip 17 күн бұрын
Your lines look the best 👌
@aleagleton6427
@aleagleton6427 17 күн бұрын
I agree
@CME-4575
@CME-4575 17 күн бұрын
Seeing garlands effort in game 7 compared to the rest of the team, i think he really deserves a shot in the top 6 to start the season
@remimk
@remimk 17 күн бұрын
@@CME-4575 The guy never gives up
@8r3nYT
@8r3nYT 15 күн бұрын
Would honestly have DeBrusk and Boeser with Miller instead and then Joshua Garland with Petey. I like Miller Boeser combo too much lol
@leematson8484
@leematson8484 17 күн бұрын
I’d like to at least re-visit the Blueger, Joshua, Garland combo that was so effective last season!
@MeloGuy-xs9fq
@MeloGuy-xs9fq 17 күн бұрын
If I wanted to get the new Anaheim Ducks Jersey away and at home with a team players name on it, it would cost me approximately $1,600 before taxes preordered. When they start showing me that they really wanna put a really good team on the ice then I’ll buy those super expensive jerseys otherwise I’ll use the ones I have with the old logo..
@tehdoughnut9862
@tehdoughnut9862 16 күн бұрын
I agree the 2nd pair is subpar and deep offensive teams will take advantage
@jameshenry5274
@jameshenry5274 17 күн бұрын
Shannon, Alvin is such a relief after Benning (Mr. I Really Like this Guy, he was so good five years ago, I'll pay twice his current value) He is not trying to trick other teams. He is making common sense trades that work for the Canucks. Healthy Demko, healthy Soucy, Myers steps up a little bit based on solid coaching, and we could be a contender. I am so happy with the Joshua deal.
@RyanThompson-xe8lt
@RyanThompson-xe8lt 17 күн бұрын
DeBrusk Pettersson Sherwood - (similar to VGK's Barbashev Eichel Marchessault line) Heinen Miller Boeser Joshua Bluegar Garland PDG Suter Podkolzin Trade Hoglander at peak value + dead cap.
@shawntallen2117
@shawntallen2117 17 күн бұрын
no hoglander?
@dungeree7292
@dungeree7292 16 күн бұрын
Definitely taking a step back this year. They won't have a 105 PDO heater for the first thalf of the season
@connorkenney6938
@connorkenney6938 16 күн бұрын
Mathason in Montreal might be a good target. He has 2 years left on his contract around 4.5 million.
@kcshfl
@kcshfl 16 күн бұрын
Decently excited with who the Canucks were able to grab in free agency. I think this will be a bit of a step back year compared to the overachievement of last year. But I think the Canucks will be a better playoff team.
@TheDeepShallow
@TheDeepShallow 15 күн бұрын
Go Canucks Go!
@AGUYNAMED278
@AGUYNAMED278 16 күн бұрын
If debrusk can do anything I'll be happy already
@TheChronicFiend
@TheChronicFiend 16 күн бұрын
Shanon always saying:well he had a career year...let me tell you...lots of players here had career years!😂
@icewyre
@icewyre 17 күн бұрын
I'm thinking a worse regular season, but better playoff run
@vancitycanucks
@vancitycanucks 16 күн бұрын
I think we need one more DMAN. I wish we spent the cash on Zadorov but I understand why.
@RobDucharme
@RobDucharme 16 күн бұрын
0:49 Everyone in the know is saying DeBrusk is a true Tocchet player. I'm excited for that reason. 1:03 Given how Petts STARTED the season, that injury had to be more nagging than he let on. And I'm ok with that, because it shows he doesn't play it up and he doesn't openly make excuses. 1:50 In the spirit of Rutherford (paraphrasing), if everything goes right, these two will have success this season. They're building on something special. 2:04 I don't care what people say about Benning. I know he was terrible with sh!t contracts and some pretty forgettable trades, but that Miller trade is ONE of the best in Canucks history. Not THE best, but among the best. 3:31 Given that he wears 53, there were times last season where he actually looked like Horvat with his finish in front of the net. It was so weird... He has skill. He's quietly quite the complete package for what he's hired to do. 4:21 I watched Bains play here in Red Deer. He looked like a man among boys when he was on the ice. I think he just needs a bit more time to develop and adjust to dominate more in the AHL, and he's pretty close to that point now. I guess September will paint a better picture. 7:59 More importantly, unlike the Benning era, Allvin has a whole team of specific subordinates who work together to help guide his decisions. That's why we're no longer seeing a lot of bad contracts. There have been some risky trades, but I understand what they're doing in those situations. It's a dynamic situation and sometimes you have to take those risks. The turnaround from the Green/Benning era has been stunning to say the least. 10:00 Here's why I'm excited: They made sure they remained BIG on their D-core size (we can ignore Hugs' height, as he's almost impossible to chase when he has the puck). They signed a cap-friendly top six player who is perfect for Toccs to coach. They signed a top 9 winger who still has growing to do, but has been pretty good so far. They signed a bottom six physical player that Hugs himself was excited to no longer have to play against. They didn't put all their eggs in one basket the way past GMs would do. Now, we just have to see how this revamped lineup gels. Argue and disagree all you want, but this is a solid lineup.
@jeremylizotte8992
@jeremylizotte8992 17 күн бұрын
According to that chart they have 7 defensemen vying to become a second pairing regular...That is great competition to have ...up until the trade line at least. One of them could rise to the occasion.
@choppergunner8650
@choppergunner8650 17 күн бұрын
It would be cool if you did a video on the Panthers if they are as good as they were in 2023-24, based on the roster moves they made.
@deepaktoor7376
@deepaktoor7376 17 күн бұрын
Pesce, cole would have been huge. As soon as they got defensemen (hronek, soucy, cole) they became good. Garland is a top 6 player. Debrusk doesnt move the needle. Petterson can though, need to see the shot and one t back. Chychrun, walker, roy. Really miscalculated free agency. Teuravainen, marchessault would have been incredible over debrusk at the same cap. Cant hope for him to become different once you sign him- players usually are who they are. Boeser i would trade for meier if i could. Hes smart enough to make up for the skating, but button hooking every time, i just think it would be best to sell high. Like they did with horvat but failed to do with virtanen and demko/markstrom
@TheHockeyGuy
@TheHockeyGuy 17 күн бұрын
No one wanted Virtanen. They tried to trade him, but he had a bad reputation around the NHL. Ian Cole was brutal in the playoffs, so bringing him back would not have worked. You're underrating DeBrusk. If they trade Boeser for that Meier contract, I might lose my mind.
@danquast1914
@danquast1914 17 күн бұрын
Garland has never been a top 6 guy. He was terrible playing on the first or second line. Only found success once he was moved to the 3rd. Remember, we have tried to trade him multiple times and not one team wanted him
@deepaktoor7376
@deepaktoor7376 17 күн бұрын
@@TheHockeyGuy tldr; thanks for engaging with me! virtanen i think they could have gotten something during his 20 goal season, before the off ice stuff. but yeah maybe thats why mccann didnt fetch anything either. the top 4 is a problem. the vast improvement to the team this year was simple- capable defenders. goalies and forwards didnt change much. before that it was hughes + myers + ahlers holding the fort. thats not going to work, and you mentioned goals for were the same, while goals against improved alot. soucy and cole simply pinning guys instead of getting beat clean made a huge difference. things are always a confluence of factors, but i think tocchet got a lot of credit while the 3 dmen didnt as much. so i thought people were underestimating hroneks contribution (and with his shot on the powerplay it would be even more). soucy, their record was nuts with him in the lineup. cole had bad luck during the playoffs with pucks bouncing off him, but hes still a bonafide nhl defenceman that i trust to be a #4. myers the consensus feels like hes a 3rd pair D/#5. forbort and desharnais im not 100% wouldnt get scratched at points during the season. and make poor plays with the puck like i saw desharnais have to run around after these playoffs. meier- i know thats a hot take but things change so rapidly in the nhl. he had a down year on a new team, but he was the "darling" at that trade deadline and i think he was legit for it. power forward, good skating, nice shot. i think you can buy low on him now, kinda like i cant believe how chychrun got a 1st rd pick in one year and then a 3rd the next. debrusk my problem is hes streaky. and hes had ample opportunity in the top 6 with players like bergeron and pastrnak. i think players play to their best in bostons system (like krug, zacha) so i would expect his production has topped out. and thats 5.5 cap where you could get someone who generates more, like teuravainen or marchessault. obviously could be wrong about it all, i loved the jets roster and picked them to win it. on ice theres a big difference vs on paper and i cant figure it out.
@deepaktoor7376
@deepaktoor7376 17 күн бұрын
@@danquast1914 i think if im counting who i can count on to create offense in the top 6, he is one of them. and he was one of them throughout the playoffs, maybe behind miller and boeser only. he makes plays and holds on to the puck. thats what you need. and top 6 to me doesnt necessarily mean top 2 lines. like i would put him on the 3rd line with blueger and joshua because of the chemistry. but when i count how to spend money on forwards, i have $ being spent on miller, boeser, petterson...debrusk now, garland. and then joshua/hoglander as middle 6.
@missstar219
@missstar219 16 күн бұрын
you’re not getting timo
@ChiknNugg3s
@ChiknNugg3s 17 күн бұрын
Woooo Canucks!
@jcoats5529
@jcoats5529 17 күн бұрын
Power off in North Vancouver today 🤔
@itrubsthelotiononitsskin1788
@itrubsthelotiononitsskin1788 17 күн бұрын
Should have let Myers walk
@kevinvaillancourt5737
@kevinvaillancourt5737 17 күн бұрын
Canucks fan here since the early 90s. I agree with most of your take, except that I think we're going to see another below-average season from Petey. I watched him very closely all last year, and there is something wrong. Could be the tendinitis, could be something mental, could be something unknown. Nobody knows for sure. Except itis clear from watching him flinch, wince, and fall so much that there is something wrong. Since we haven't seen any word about it, other than the tendinitis issue (and I don't been to downplay this, it's a serious condition, but it also wasn't something the medical team knew about, so this raises questions). I hope he gets it together, for his sake as well as the Canuck's, but my concern is that he's just been beaten down into, I don't know how to put it in words, but like an over-abused person who expects a slap when someone raises their hand to shake? I'm really concerned about him.
@samslone9457
@samslone9457 15 күн бұрын
I think he may be the biggest mistake of this current management. They shouldn't have pressured him into signing. Something is definitely off with that guy
@cwp2580
@cwp2580 17 күн бұрын
Man oh man... im gonna have to buy an xbox or ps5 to get my hockey fix 😱 😱
@JohnnySportsfan
@JohnnySportsfan 16 күн бұрын
I think the moves they made were as good as they were going to get. I’m more impressed with their resistance to overpaying Guentzel or an equivalent.
@JCanucks30
@JCanucks30 15 күн бұрын
I think next year itll be: Debrusk Petey Hoglander Heinen Miller Boeser Joshua Bleuger Garland Aman Suter Podkolzin our F group is very versatile. For instance, Suter can slot in on L2 where hes had success with 9 and 6, moving Heinen down to the 4th and 88 in C4, or move Joshua up to L2 and drop Heinen to L3, put 40 between 81 and 8, reunite the lotto line... plenty of more combos we can work with. I agree that having another top 6 forward would be beneficial, but I think our D is top priority right now. Cant have Myers playing top 4 minutes.
@peterolbrisch8970
@peterolbrisch8970 17 күн бұрын
Honestly, I wasn't surprised last year. I thought all they had to do was avoid the awful start they had the year before and they should be ok and do pretty well.
@quinnlee9874
@quinnlee9874 14 күн бұрын
I feel good about the Canucks free agent signings. My outlook is that GMs only lose on July 1st. No one really wins because you pay a premium. Because the Canucks made little moves in comparison to the cap space they did have, it was a smart offseason. They got tougher to play against. The only complaint I really have is I think the DeBrusk contract is a year too long but that’s what you have to pay on July the 1st.
@mattlau
@mattlau 9 күн бұрын
Let’s not forget we started last year with PDG next to Miller and Boeser. Then we had Mikheyev and Kuzmenko with a good part of the season with Petterson. Replace those 3 with DeBrusk, Heinen and Hoglander and we are looking better.
@jonathanmills7994
@jonathanmills7994 17 күн бұрын
All your goalies belong to Yzerman, you can have one but you have to take Justin Holl as well.
@ronpeacock9939
@ronpeacock9939 17 күн бұрын
I will say.. I have always like the Canucks.. they've had the same problems as my team coming in at the same time. Though I will say, the colors you're wearing really needed to stay in the 70's.. both for the V and the skate... the stick n rink and Orca are not bad.. but the harvest gold, black and orange were the colors that made the 1970's decore outdated before they even were shown... I hope they continue to play well..
@tonykung8756
@tonykung8756 17 күн бұрын
Top line is gonna be Heinen-Pety-Debrusk, then it's probably Hog-Miller-Boeser, then it's DJ-Bluey-Garland, then it's Pods-Suter-Sherwood. Why are we messing up our 3rd line when we paid more money to keep Joshua? We kept him because we didn't want to lose that chemistry with Gars...
@TheHockeyGuy
@TheHockeyGuy 17 күн бұрын
Heinen really isn't a first liner. That's a recipe for disaster. Blueger doesn't belong ahead of Suter on the depth chart.
@tonykung8756
@tonykung8756 17 күн бұрын
@@TheHockeyGuy Unfortunately, we don't have anyone else on the team who can play full-time on the first line barring some rookie like Lekkerimaki who might surprise us. Our 3rd line of Dak-Bluey-Garland had the most success last season...
@remimk
@remimk 17 күн бұрын
huge fan of the forward group. but it's left a small hole in our defence. That means hronek and Hughes need to step it up this season if we don't find the man we need. Losing Zadorov is a moderate blow to our defence. but if we can increase the attack and rely on Demko as we have in the past then I think we'll still be in good shape.
@MySundin13
@MySundin13 17 күн бұрын
They got weaker. I also don't expect Boesser to pass 40 goals again
@JH-jw7pu
@JH-jw7pu 15 күн бұрын
Tocchet has heavily spoken about creating duos throughout the 23-24 season, so I think it’s unlikely he will break up Miller+Boeser and Joshua+Garland, unless DeBrusk happens to have better chemistry with either Miller or Boeser than he does with Pettersson. At this moment, DeBrusk is supposed to be Pettersson’s duo partner but I could see Pettersson+Boeser and DeBrusk+Miller being the new duos. No way Joshua+Garland is broken up because their chemistry is so strong that you could put almost any centre between them, and they would put up points.
@roundnround365
@roundnround365 17 күн бұрын
Good enough to win their share in the regular season. Mgmt will bring in a RHD for the second pairing when available.
@andersbondensson2042
@andersbondensson2042 17 күн бұрын
Good off season moves in general. Of course it would be nice to have Lindholm and Zadorov, when they did so well in the play offs, but no way for the contracts they got. Matching those contracts would have been a disaster. When the Canucks signed EP40 for eight years, they were pretty much set and should aim for the cup some years away when 11M will look cap friendly for a player of his caliber. So as long as they don’t screw up with some long term risky/bad signings, the upcomming years look very nice for a fan of the team.
@HeavenlyHouse
@HeavenlyHouse 17 күн бұрын
They still need a shifty, skilled winger for Pettersson. And Joshua needs to be on a line with Garland.
@MrAnonymous-dt2gi
@MrAnonymous-dt2gi 16 күн бұрын
Hey THG, I know I am going off topic here, but can you do a video regarding the report of Bauer and CCM looking to sell? (Not sure if there's others). As much as I would like to be optimistic or cautiously optimistic with Vancouver, I'm concerned where hockey is heading as a whole based on these reports. And yes, it's too early to say this or that, but there's a lot of what if.....
@jonasandersson6594
@jonasandersson6594 16 күн бұрын
I think Garland with Pettersson and Höglander would be fun to watch. Two hard workers and a good passer.
@nicholaslouie7590
@nicholaslouie7590 17 күн бұрын
Defence core is this team's weakness for sure. Would love to see some of our prospects make the opening night roster like Lekkerimaki and Pettersson.
@user-mw7pe2iv2u
@user-mw7pe2iv2u 17 күн бұрын
Kylington could be available. I think he would be a decent 3 or 4 defenceman
@jimgap3654
@jimgap3654 9 күн бұрын
I like your line up better than most I've seen, its almost what I've been saying.. the only difference I have is moving Hoglander down the line up as he struggled against the tougher matchups and did most of his scoring lower in the line up. Id keep Joshua/Garland together and slip Miller in between on the 2nd line.. they can all play matchup roles and defend. As for the defence and cap space etc.. I would be going hard after Rasmus Anderson. 2 years left on a great cap hit. Calgary has shown they are willing to deal with Alvin and they want younger roster players, picks and prospects for their rebuild. what's your thoughts on a Hoglander, McWard, 2025 1st rd pick kind of package. would you be willing to up the prospect level to a Willander? Would Rasmus fit Long term with Hughes as Willander was drafted to be?
@shyladutt746
@shyladutt746 16 күн бұрын
Feel goaltending will be a serious question mark for the Canucks post Demko health challenges as well as speed on the defense lines. Would like to hear your comments contrasting Canucks with the newly boosted Nashville team.
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