A LOT Of People Had Bad Experiences With This Twitter Artist...

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katliente

katliente

Күн бұрын

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@SalviAlmighty
@SalviAlmighty Ай бұрын
It doesn't matter how much money was involved. Telling the people scammed to just "let it go', just just letting the scammer run rampant. This could just be the scammers' strategy tbh. If they accept 20 comms at 50$, ghost them all and they all let it go because it's "only 50$", it's still a thousand bucks scammed off people.
@sadnesswithasideofsalt
@sadnesswithasideofsalt Ай бұрын
Yeah. Like if it was an older member of your family, would you tell them in that tone to get over losing their money?
@lailah4982
@lailah4982 27 күн бұрын
i check the twt of the guy who said to cut their losses and he genuinely has no brain 😭 idk about vtuber fanbase since im an outsider looking in but literally there is no hope
@Chanacabra
@Chanacabra Ай бұрын
Their instagram has a ton of traced and half AI drawn over images on it, might be hard to see for someone who is new to art, its just really sad to see... Hope the commissioner can get the art they want, this is just frustrating to watch.
@Uselesslyuseful3
@Uselesslyuseful3 Ай бұрын
Yeah looks AI/traced to me too..
@hirahiro2331
@hirahiro2331 Ай бұрын
Yeah...
@alexadamns8115
@alexadamns8115 Ай бұрын
all of the skirts she puts on her characters are def 100% AI. It is too detailed from the rest of the drawing
@skittlessquad6031
@skittlessquad6031 Ай бұрын
you're right. Specifically on their carrd, the bunnygirl with the yellow background looks heavily traced. And a lot of their work is in differring art styles
@NoxSomnium
@NoxSomnium Ай бұрын
Yeah once they said western union I didn’t want to commission them but they continued pushing me into paying them. They came back with the idea of paying them with in game currency from Genshin impact. Man was that a mistake. Honestly just don’t work with this artist
@SaygeShroom
@SaygeShroom Ай бұрын
Sorry you had a bad experience, I hope no one else falls for this it's sad.
@The_Summoning
@The_Summoning Ай бұрын
As an artist, 50$ is still a lot of money. Kinda sad when people forget that others aren't in a good spot. Literally had to contemplate getting 50$ shoes for work that are better for my feet and back. Or going to walmart and getting 10$ shoes. I grew up poor, I'm still poor. I would be completely flabbergasted if someone offered 50$ for any of my work lol. Hell, I wouldn't even take 20$ from a coworker, it felt like too much.
@doghugs6840
@doghugs6840 Ай бұрын
i dont even take $20 from my dad. its jus artists letting overpricing being normalized. not everyone is living in a california condo with 2 bedrooms.
@brandi598
@brandi598 Ай бұрын
@@doghugs6840 50 dollars isn't overpricing at all. 50 dollars is a steal for that commission type IF they had delivered it as advertised. However, two things can be true at once: 50 dollars is a lot for people struggling AND 50 dollars is cheap in the art market.
@maxnami
@maxnami Ай бұрын
Some people don't understand that Social Networks and Internet are a Worldwide Market. $50 USD image commission would mean 4-5 days of food for a family in a poor country.
@The_Summoning
@The_Summoning Ай бұрын
@maxnami Hell, even in the US that could last me 5 days to eat! Lol
@thatfishbone
@thatfishbone Ай бұрын
@@doghugs6840 50 dollars for a reference sheet is "overpricing". You are either 12 or just have no respect for the work artist's do.
@skulledrozette
@skulledrozette Ай бұрын
hi! ive known that person and theyre in the wonderend community. this person was also a weirdo, engaging nsfw with minors willingly, allegedly made nsfw of children, made semi nsfw of a real person and sent his fanbase to attack a minor due to a personal dispute safe to say i had a bad experience with this guy too
@AkenoTomoe
@AkenoTomoe Ай бұрын
They had to be banned TWICE 🥰
@skulledrozette
@skulledrozette Ай бұрын
@AkenoTomoe EXACTLY
@parasitezzz
@parasitezzz Ай бұрын
I was the minor that his fanbased attacked :/
@AkenoTomoe
@AkenoTomoe Ай бұрын
@@parasitezzz I kept all the evidence too
@BolleIsSerious
@BolleIsSerious Ай бұрын
@@AkenoTomoe Will you re,ease the evidence to expose this disguisting person?
@strobo308
@strobo308 Ай бұрын
I'm all for calling out scammers. If not for me, for the future victims that will fall for them. I was once scammed and when I made a callout post, multiple victims came out of the woodworks to complain that they were also scammed. But none of them made a post before to warn anyone. It made my blood boil, I can't stand for that.
@catmcflooffloof4832
@catmcflooffloof4832 Ай бұрын
I guess some people are just too nervous and feel like they will somehow either not be believed, and possibly harassed, maybe some will feel like they'll be overlooked somehow But I do agree, the sooner people start calling these scams out, the better
@redcronojm
@redcronojm Ай бұрын
I cant even get many art commissions.
@Nota-Everguard
@Nota-Everguard Ай бұрын
Type shit😭
@rottznov4861
@rottznov4861 Ай бұрын
real and I don't think my art is overpriced or bad at all... Like, pls discord furries, buy my shit
@RippedCatBoy
@RippedCatBoy Ай бұрын
yea everytime i see ppl doing this it's like i try so hard to promo my coms and it's hard to get any.. and then these go around collecting tons of coms and never deliver...
@rottznov4861
@rottznov4861 Ай бұрын
@@RippedCatBoy REAL!!! Like I'm transparent and send progress every step, asking questions and all and still I barely get any comms
@verypery4463
@verypery4463 Ай бұрын
I guess, at least for me. It a little bit more clear why they were getting comms. They are preeeeetty cheap and in an anime style. Kinda makes sense
@jewboo3118
@jewboo3118 Ай бұрын
This is really unfortunate because I live in a country where Paypal and other similar services isn't fully accessible and I had actually considered using WU but I decided not to since Americans (my main market) tend not to be knowledgable about it or trust it in general. It's so hard to follow your dreams when you don't have the resources to do so, but that doesn't give people the right to scam people like this. It just makes things harder for other artists in other countries making an honest living using WU or other services like it cuz they have no choice.
@teojoon
@teojoon Ай бұрын
im sorry but i could never be this kind or this patient with that artist compared to the commissioners because communication is the BARE MINIMUM.. their behavior is super scammy / they are a scammer. i feel bad for all the people who got taken advantage of and received too much stress. ppl who blame the victim is insane. Empty promises, lack of communication, posting more comms when u still have a load of unfinished works etc all adds up!
@wxnderboy
@wxnderboy Ай бұрын
i don't know if it's just me, but recently there have been a lot more artists failing to treat clients with basic decency. things happen, but some of these people are spending some of the last bits of their paycheck just to get something they enjoy. art is a hard enough industry ( especially with ai ) - and some people struggle just to get commissions. ruining a client's experience with one is horrible. it's basic decency to communicate and be honest with your clients, please.
@strayopportunity2
@strayopportunity2 Ай бұрын
I wouldn't say these people are artists, more so scammers pretending to be artists...
@hirahiro2331
@hirahiro2331 Ай бұрын
​@@strayopportunity2that's fair
@InWinds
@InWinds Ай бұрын
My file once got corrupted for a fullbody scene(background) commission- I had finished all the linework and flats before it happened. Yes, I needed time before talking. Was it a month? No. Three days. I gave the client a choice- they could get a refund or I could restart work. Tip for artists- do not spend your commission money until it's complete or near complete so you can always offer a refund.
@GweenOfTea
@GweenOfTea Ай бұрын
Normalize holding commissioned artists accountable for poor communication, this is far too normal of a thing in the community, the lack of communication drives me crazyyyy I have commissioners who won’t communicate with me either and it’s so annoying too
@NomCherry
@NomCherry Ай бұрын
49 instead of 50 is also sales psychology where you'll think it's less than the next rounded up number so "it's not so bad." Like 99,00 isn't 100. It's kind of useless but something that's done in stores anyways - and honestly I get tricked with big numbers sometimes. "At least it's not 100 😅" Idk why they'd use it though.
@brandi598
@brandi598 Ай бұрын
anytime i watch these videos it makes me feel so good about myself LMAOOO I've done commissions for 8+ years now averaging around 15 coms a month and I've only had one bad interaction back in 2017. It's not hard at all to communicate with your clients.
@hirahiro2331
@hirahiro2331 Ай бұрын
What's your secret 👀
@franzgriffle6063
@franzgriffle6063 Ай бұрын
TOS means absolutely nothing if there’s no contract signed. Don’t steal from people, it gives a bad name. Every time you interact with somebody, you represent all artists everywhere all at once don’t fuck up. Lol
@Czepialska
@Czepialska Ай бұрын
Well TOS means something if u pay for something...
@franzgriffle6063
@franzgriffle6063 Ай бұрын
@ absolutely but the agreement of a TOS is an exchange of goods. The artist never presented the TOS, they just assumed the client saw it. It’s their responsibility as the business owner to make sure they are clear and to the point with communicate. Never assume the client saw anything other than your work at best.
@spiderleamer
@spiderleamer Ай бұрын
This, that or make your TOS fully clear and obvious. I have my TOS on EVERY website I sell on and make it clear if you commission me you agree to my TOS. Having a TOS hidden is just scummy.
@strayopportunity2
@strayopportunity2 Ай бұрын
scammers dont care
@franzgriffle6063
@franzgriffle6063 Ай бұрын
@@strayopportunity2 Truth
@Runzi333
@Runzi333 Ай бұрын
Some of the incorrect things could be stylistic things but stuff like completely missing markings and bows and fully miss understanding the hair is a lot and not okay imo. I understand losing files and being upset about it but yeah you can't just ignore what you agreed to with the commissioners. ARTISTS, YOU DO NOT ACTUALLY HAVE THAT MONEY UNTIL THEY GET THE PRODUCT! It's safe to ask people for some amount up front to avoid being taken advantage of, send a heavily watermarked version for confirmation that they like it, then you get paid the rest and then you send them the unwatermarked one. Until you send them the finished peice you need to treat any money taken for that commission as NOT YOURS TO SPEND! It doesn't matter if you have a non refundable deposit or anything like that in your tos, it's not actually your money until you give them what was agreed on. If you can't do that you need to work a different job until you can comfortably do this because it's part of being a professional and protecting yourself.
@snowiesaber
@snowiesaber Ай бұрын
thank you for being so sweet when covering this! i had a lot of mixed comments but im so glad u understand where im coming from ^w^
@ared18t
@ared18t Ай бұрын
Just Because it's "CHEAP" Does not make it acceptable. Imagine paying 3 bucks for a bag of chips I don't care if I have 2k in my bank at that time I was promised a bag of chips and I'm getting my bag of chips a refund or finding everyone I can who got screwed on their chips and making a big deal out of it.
@RinUsamaki
@RinUsamaki Ай бұрын
Watching your vids I feel are keeping my eyes open to possible scammers. Like literally most "people" that follow me on Twitter are scammers trying to get me to commission them.
@konaata
@konaata Ай бұрын
same omg
@hirahiro2331
@hirahiro2331 Ай бұрын
Hmmm do I come off as a scammer? Maybe that's why I haven't gotten a commission 🤔... I'm genuinely curious
@KryaDiere
@KryaDiere Ай бұрын
Do people not upload their WIPs to google drive or cloud or something? I always upload periodically for my work, not just as a backup but also there's timestamps and stuff that you can show proof that you worked on something if anything happens. In the industry each major step/change we save as a SEPARATE file and numbered. Like ArtworkA_171124_1, ArtworkA_171124_2 etc. This also helps if you want to rollback any changes you made. Anyway, I completely agree with what you said about how all these "maybe" scammers don't bother to communicate or update but you make one little tweet about them and now they're like online 24/7 ready to reply and send you artwork in 20min. Like ok bruh... LOL. It's like they take advantage of your kindness (or naivety) for as long as they can until they're called out for it.
@mywingsareyours
@mywingsareyours Ай бұрын
The sketch she sent to dino was literally just a random female character lmao
@kiiminatsumi
@kiiminatsumi Ай бұрын
Honestly, 50 dollar for me is HUGE deal, since the money in my country in worth 5x less. 50 dollars for me is 200 of the money in my country (200 reais vey) I could literally buy a decent professional microphone with that ammount of money 😭😭
@thatfishbone
@thatfishbone Ай бұрын
The fact that you think a CUSTOM ARTWORK is worth the same amount as a MASS PRODUCED microphone shows how little you respect artist's.
@yukilu602
@yukilu602 Ай бұрын
@@thatfishbone Im assuming the main commentor is a minor based off their content, minors in the art community have no perception of how things should actually be valued since they dont have the funds themselves to actually be able to afford commissions :( which is kinda sad tbh because some experienced artists I know have started undercharging themselves because more young people have been telling artists that they price their comms too high and we end up getting this situation where someones charging a entire ref sheet for $50 and taking more than what they can chew, in turn making them a scammer lmao.
@eremiel
@eremiel Ай бұрын
​@@thatfishbone As an artist who live in the same country as them, how is this disrespectful? 250 reais (50 dollars) is a lot >>>HERE
@micotine8714
@micotine8714 Ай бұрын
@@thatfishbonehow did u even get that from what they said lmao
@kiiminatsumi
@kiiminatsumi Ай бұрын
@@thatfishbone bro I am an artist myself what 😭And good for you that you think microphones are cheap, because I'll probably never be able to afford one
@shaz2911
@shaz2911 Ай бұрын
My 2 cents on "$50 ain't much" To all those that say it's not much and write it off, please put your money where your mouth is and give that person the $50 to replace the one they lost. I totally agree $50 to one person is pocket change compared to another person who has lived off $50 each month.
@Yummycheeseborgar
@Yummycheeseborgar Ай бұрын
I was friends with this person before. He was kind and all of that. When he got exposed for liking Loli or drew NSFW of someone who was a minor..I was in shock that he's bad.
@Yummycheeseborgar
@Yummycheeseborgar Ай бұрын
Forgot to mention that Mimi drew minor characters in a bodypillow in a discord server that does not allow NSFW and is full with minors 😭
@rinowichan
@rinowichan Ай бұрын
I truly hate when someone says "it was not that much money anyway" like ???? excuse me??? the artist was the one who put the price, I have my money, I am paying for it, it is very privileged to say that, I am latino and while sure 20 USD is not that much for a commission I am hoping ro recived what I payed for, maybe because I am an artist/client and don't have too much money to expend on art but I love to is kinda triggering reading how someone blames the victim for this nfioeagioras
@Ashymations
@Ashymations Ай бұрын
The people who say 'It's just $50, let it go' are so privileged, it's unreal... Like, $50 may not be a lot for you, but as a student, that is literally my paycheck for the week (£40 which is basically $50). 💀 Imagine telling me to 'just let go' of an entire week paycheck. But also, why are you so nonchalant about an artist loosing $50?? idk how to word it but if it was like, $3, then I could understand, but would you just not care if you lost $50 because you didn't get what you wanted?? THAT'S A WHOLE ASS $50!!!
@nanonano03
@nanonano03 Ай бұрын
at this point, watching contents about twitter dramas is kinda another form of entertainment, while crying because I'm not getting any client to buy my art.
@hirahiro2331
@hirahiro2331 Ай бұрын
Same 😢. These scammers making me wanna go the scam route
@FilipinaHoneyTV
@FilipinaHoneyTV Ай бұрын
Although I usually hate call out posts, I can see circumstances like this where I see it's pretty useful. Reviews or rating systems should be mandatory for digital goods like this. Because no one says anything, there seem to be artists that have a false profile because they never get called out for their work ethics.
@Firelava88.
@Firelava88. Ай бұрын
This is why I don’t pay in full first 😭😭 this seems SO stressful I could never
@sleepy_soap
@sleepy_soap Ай бұрын
Im a chronically ill artist so drawing for long periods of time all at once is really hard for me WHICH IS WHY MY TOS IS SO IMPORTANT. I always give myself a month to work on fully rendered work since i want to make each and everyone of them perfect. But in my T.O.S i literally have a "dont rush my art progress" in it. I feel so bad for the clients this artist hurt, i hope its a learning thing for them. I really hope they link a T.O.S soon
@techno_otaku
@techno_otaku Ай бұрын
it will always get under my skin to know artists like this exist in the world who do this purposefully and learn nothing of it only to give every other artist who takes comms a bad name. To folks like that, do better, please.
@AkenoTomoe
@AkenoTomoe Ай бұрын
First off, Mimi is a guy. Second, he IS a scammer. He’s been doing this for months. You can find posts of other people have terrible experiences. As another person said, he was part of the WonderEnd community and has done some pretty awful things in there. I have the evidence.
@snowiesaber
@snowiesaber Ай бұрын
WAIT THATS A DUDE?????😭😭😭😭😭
@AkenoTomoe
@AkenoTomoe Ай бұрын
@ yeah 😭 his main OC is just a 17 year old bunny girl I guess And he keeps drawing her in weird situations
@Skykristal
@Skykristal Ай бұрын
Frustrating how scammers always get the money and clients they don't deserve.
@moss6792
@moss6792 Ай бұрын
i mean, the art being deleted could be procreate, since if you switch devices you cant get our old work back, but this is so crazy... i would love comissions but people being like this is making it so difficult... edit: after seeing they use ibis, its kinda understandable. but, if you KNOW youre broke and are a student, you need to balance your student work and art work..
@parasitezzz
@parasitezzz Ай бұрын
Sooo uhh, i’ve dealt with him before. Not by a scam. But he did ruin my life for the worst.
@strigoi9755
@strigoi9755 18 күн бұрын
Your talk of managing ADHD near the end of this video helped motivate me to get in front of my microphone and record something I'd had on my plate for too long. Thank you for being so real about it.
@hirahiro2331
@hirahiro2331 Ай бұрын
I screamed “what the hell?!” Where are these scammers going to get clients?!
@maddy6406
@maddy6406 Ай бұрын
I've had a similar experience, commed an artist back in june/july ish 2023 (100$ usd, which is almost 200~ my currency) and multiple times ive had to go back to her for an update, sometimes she wouldnt even respond, so id had to re-message her. She was at the last stage of just having to render it, literally everything else was finished (keep in mind it had been at this stage, i want to say for almost a year) with just no updates. I had asked her multiple times to update me, because I just wanted to know whats going on :') even if there was no update to give, but i hope she follows through with partially refunding me as we both agreed on it. Waiting 1y+ for a comm is just ridiculous tbh. Not even waitlisted. It's sad too because her art was beautiful and i would def go back to her if i didnt have to wait this long :/
@pepperfyves
@pepperfyves Ай бұрын
I had this exact same issue, I would not be too surprised if this was someone I worked with in the past trying to pop up again to scam more people.
@hamwarrior2000
@hamwarrior2000 27 күн бұрын
Omg, I actually had a client that got scammed by this artist. The client actually never got ANY product. They almost got a refund, but their PayPal was suddenly gone. Their friends helped them get their money back, and I got to do their ref sheet lmao.
@BriBreeBri
@BriBreeBri Ай бұрын
Why the fck would someone ever use Western Union? That's worst then using Paypal Friends&Family. You're NEVER seeing that money again and no crying to WU is going to do anything for you. Hello????? I've never heard of an artist take pay through WU......
@eins2001
@eins2001 Ай бұрын
Why the fuck* worse than* friends & family* money again, and no, crying to* taking payment*
@Darkkan13
@Darkkan13 Ай бұрын
Don't know how true this is but in another comment a person said their country mostly uses WU.
@joecalamari.
@joecalamari. Ай бұрын
@@eins2001 its the way nobody asked you to do any of that
@joecalamari.
@joecalamari. Ай бұрын
not to mention, you're wrong. "no crying" isnt meant to be separated.
@mirai5451
@mirai5451 Ай бұрын
​@@eins2001if you understood what they wrote then there's no reason to do this, we are not in school and you're not an English teacher
@vinwaffle7077
@vinwaffle7077 Ай бұрын
I just wanna point out that, that's why sending progress work can be so important. Not just for the client to give feedback but so if anything happens to your save file you at least have the sketch to continue with.
@teilanittv
@teilanittv 27 күн бұрын
Over half of the artists I've commissioned are unprofessional thieves. Its obnoxious that for some reason artists feel they get to have a pass even though they get paid promptly by the commissioner. When every single artist has a family member who died, is depressed, got sick, broke their tablet, all of the above, its all bullshit. Its all the same, 0 communication unless pressed, 0 professionalism when you hold them accountable, excuse after excuse after excuse. It doesnt matter whether you are spending $5 or $5000, you are taking a risk with most artists. If you take money for a service or a product and don't deliver, no matter the amount, you are a thief and should be treated like one.
@SkyDyedToki
@SkyDyedToki Ай бұрын
Art drama is always crazy
@a_world_worth_living_in
@a_world_worth_living_in Ай бұрын
I not even at half of the video and don't know if it was pointed out later on, but! In the art Mimi sent, and was put next to the original for the differences: elbow to finger seems traced. as someone who has drawn anthros, yeah those fingers are TOO close to the original reference. I first noticed how, compared to the new proportions, the arms were really small and the same dimensions of the original'S arms. Just putting that out there.
@keiraaki
@keiraaki Ай бұрын
I commissioned someone back in august 2nd for a custom character design, which is a simple flat colored design. I was one of I think three custom slots. The artist told me their deadlines are usually 1-3 months, which I didn't mind. Come September, they opened up more slots for customs for September and October, so I messaged them, considering they hadn't yet finished any of the other slots they had, but they told me my design should be done at the end of September. Well, I waited till the beginning of November to ask them about my custom, since they had told me it would be done in September. The artist apologized, told me they got sick and are busy trying to move countries. The only thing for me is, they make adopts several times a week, as they have made a lot of adopts in the time I commissioned them, which was why I hoped mine would get done soon. Didn't give me a new date, but the thing is that I really want a design from the artist, so before I rush to request a refund, since they have financial burdens as well as trying to move, I am waiting till the end of December.
@ItzSalem-030
@ItzSalem-030 24 күн бұрын
I send SO many wips, to allow for fixing throughout the process and just to make sure that a client isnt feeling left in the dark - not sending any is such an odd move
@Themondaythatleftyoubroken
@Themondaythatleftyoubroken Ай бұрын
Artist trying not to get into drama for a month:
@Chocorade
@Chocorade Ай бұрын
I love drawing ref sheets and I dont get commissioned too much for them, it saddens me to see scammers get more commissions than me lol
@Heattokun
@Heattokun 22 күн бұрын
“My PayPal is not available” 🚩
@ruffr4bb1t
@ruffr4bb1t 8 күн бұрын
I don’t even remember how I had issues with an artist. I don’t remember if I got a full refund or not, just remember I ordered a ref sheet and my artist had issues with completing it in time and gave me only part of the commission which was a simple portrait of the character, super cute, really wish that artist the best but I hope I can get that sheet someday
@kounyia
@kounyia Ай бұрын
nope, never ever doing comms purchases through WU... you would have absolutely NO buyer protection at all doing it that way.
@thewanderingunicorn6236
@thewanderingunicorn6236 Ай бұрын
The artist even omitted her tail!!!😲 How does one leave such a big detail out?!?
@WhiteWispers
@WhiteWispers Ай бұрын
Yet again a drama i saw on twitter and then waited for this video. Thank you i hate reading and these vids really hit when you draw❤️
@danaparsonsliquidcosmosart2669
@danaparsonsliquidcosmosart2669 Ай бұрын
The hands were wrong too... No proof of what was said before either in any of the pics
@BaileyMagikz
@BaileyMagikz Ай бұрын
vtubers using the wrong platforms and randoms for cheap then wondering why/how they got scammed (it's their own fault as much as the scammer)
@K1nla
@K1nla Ай бұрын
24:09 My goodness, if you're going to confuse what a client is asking for screenshot the text they are telling you and have that text in view while working on the art DX they brought up the dino hoodie twice so far, come on. When I have more then one commission I always label everything, include screenshots of images/conversations of what they are asking for, helpful so I don't have to keep checking back and/or mix up commissions. Best way to do updates I find if give yourself room Don't say i'll start on the sketch tomorrow (even if you do) say something like "I'll have the first stage of sketch into by such and such" I normally give myself half a week. If something comes up let the client know ahead of time. Put your work in a temp folder with the date deadline as the name, etc. I'm REALLY bad at remembering things so I have a lot of backup plans to remind me. If I had a phone I'd even use a schedule ap with an alarm if I could lol. If they keep this bad habit of not updating a client and throwing out bad quality and/or incorrect art from what a client asked for...sooner or later you'll just have no clients. I get it's hard to give bad news to a client if you're behind, haven't made progress like you were hoping, mental issues + irl stuff happens. I have some friends I've sadly "ghosted" the past few months because I just wasn't mentally okay to get back to them. BUT when work/money is involved you NEED to force yourself vs ignoring these clients, they put their faith and money into commission you. Also set a limit of how many commissions you can do at a time! GAAH, I can NOT have a backlog of clients because of my memory, I know my limits. Sadly 5 clients at a time is my limit...Longest time I've taken on a commission was almost a year and that was either a vtuber commission (first time) or a client I had to do 20+ drawings for. Even then I updated the heck out of them, even on days I didn't have progress when asked. I hope the artist does better with how then manage things. Edit: 37:03 Yeah, I don't think this artist was/is a scammer they are just really bad at being a commissioned artist XD I don't know how long they've been at this or new to being commissioned artist yet to find their correct stride. Wish people made the artist accountable sooner though so it wouldn't have come to them being called out by all these past/current clients all at once. Sometimes it is worth it talking to the artist and put your foot down to correct the bad work ethics =shrug= so call outs like this doesn't happen if they aren't a scammer. If putting your foot down doesn't change things then yeah blast away I guess on twitter with your warnings lol. 39:32 Oh...hmm no idea what happened there lol to confused questions as if a commission was being requested. Not sure that ever happened to me so can't even relate to this weird misundersanding.
@jamanibowman
@jamanibowman Ай бұрын
Is there anyway you can make a video of all the platforms you can make commission on and there pros and cons?
@mikuni01
@mikuni01 Ай бұрын
Oh man I'm moots with Snowy! It's awful that this happened to her
@jasuumii
@jasuumii 21 күн бұрын
off topic but i love the zundamon pfp! 😭💚 did you draw it?
@mallowtonmouse
@mallowtonmouse Ай бұрын
don't think big following = trustworthy!!!!
@AkenoTomoe
@AkenoTomoe Ай бұрын
Most of his following is a bunch of kids I bet. He was popular in the WonderEnd community and all the kids ate up his content without second thought (until he got banned)
@joyaruki
@joyaruki Ай бұрын
I'm an artist and I have really bad depression, I don't know when I'll have a problem with time. That's why I don't take comms, I'm planning on selling done work, like adopts. I wouldn't be able to handle the guilt of not delivering a comm if I got payed for it, even if it's mental illness the problem. I will not make people go through struggles just because I'm sick....
@Nota-Everguard
@Nota-Everguard Ай бұрын
Glad I got a early comment love your content and learning about art💙💙💙
@babybatzy1574
@babybatzy1574 23 күн бұрын
ngl i literally sit on call with the ppl who commission me, so they tell me what they want EVERY STEP lmfaoooo
@icewaterk
@icewaterk Ай бұрын
yea 50 bucks not alot but im not paying that for bad service 🤷‍♂️
@hirahiro2331
@hirahiro2331 Ай бұрын
Damn that's kinda fair. Paid $65 for a portrait.
@Sketchnificent
@Sketchnificent Ай бұрын
If you have a hectic schedule due to work or school or possibly have serious health issues or maybe taking care of a family member with serious health issues ⚠️DONT TAKE ON COMMISSIONS⚠️🚫 And communicate with your clients let’s not take this unprofessional behavior/ attitude into 2025 do better
@lazyartist491
@lazyartist491 Ай бұрын
I remember seeing this thread and think that the new sketch looked traced as hell, why do “artists” like this get clients but actual artist get shafted
@SpiritTakoizu
@SpiritTakoizu Ай бұрын
I kinda wonder if it's a mix between 'cheaper' price + 'popular' art style... Cuz I swear if ur art style is slightly different than the popular styles, it's always so hard to get a comm... Or maybe I suck at advertising, idk 😂
@cc_the_rebel
@cc_the_rebel Ай бұрын
People like 13:48 and 15:15 have no right human right to talk in situations like this 😊
@gswagger
@gswagger Ай бұрын
one of the biggest things i noticed is that the commissioner didn’t even give snowy is her tail ( no actually what happened to her tail) i dont even know snowy and i saw it. she has a very huge imo hard to miss tail that goes down to her feet and the commisoner didnt even bother giving her one???
@Mimi-ft1eg
@Mimi-ft1eg 24 күн бұрын
Unrelated but my artist name is mimi and I got commissioned to draw that same character once and for a moment I panicked thinking I was unaware of a beware HAHAHAH
@rainbowraidersbox5759
@rainbowraidersbox5759 Ай бұрын
I am not in the art comunity so can someone explain me why did she paid someone to do the ruff sheet of a character she already had art of?? Like it was looking literally the same (saving the missing details) I don't really anderstand it.
@DigitalLumian
@DigitalLumian Ай бұрын
I’m an artist and this is just based off ME and some friends who are also artists but its mostly because It makes it easier for artists to understand what they’re drawing, kinda like how construction workers use blue prints to pinpoint details in what they are building. With just a drawing of the front or a drawing of the general character, artists can get confused because what if the ocs owner they want to get something where the character is facing away or to the side of our perspective? Reference sheets make it easier to understand and even highlight some key details people usually would miss with just a regular front drawing which has happened to Ocs I have who don’t have reference sheets This is just based off me though and there could be another reason for others to do so!
@rainbowraidersbox5759
@rainbowraidersbox5759 Ай бұрын
@DigitalLumian ooh that makes a lot of sense actually! Tysm for your reply, I was very curious about it♥️
@ji_ji_
@ji_ji_ Ай бұрын
man these scammers get so much work
@KibbyCatPlays
@KibbyCatPlays Ай бұрын
isnt it illegal to not refund if u dont receive a product/product isnt as described ? so artist having "no refund" i think thats not 100% legal, while i understand some scenarios where the work has been done a parcial is better depending on the circumstances. but im pretty use to refuse any compensation for not reciving anything/not as advertised is illegal
@mizhammerfist
@mizhammerfist Ай бұрын
this happened to me!! it went on for like 8 months tho! and the art i got was not what i wanted:(
@SmokinQuixote
@SmokinQuixote Ай бұрын
Hey, I'm new to this. Considering how long it would take to make a full body illustration isn't asking for $49 a bit low?
@lurincustodio3780
@lurincustodio3780 Ай бұрын
It's kinda, but it depends on. The level of the artist and how much or little they consider their art to be worth of. Considering this is a character reference sheet, it must at least have front and back view of the character, but that the artist decide to charge 50$ for that it's not really the clients fault
@WolfyAj-sx8sn
@WolfyAj-sx8sn Ай бұрын
as someone who has had thair hardrive wipe all thair files/art 2 times once very recently with a almost finished com yes it is very frustrateing but it dosnt give the artist the right to ghost the commissioner i recently let my commissioner know that ill be redoing there com bc my hardrive wiped my art that along with getting owed art finished dispite what happened.if you take a commission and dont want to refund then finish the com plane and simple :3
@praxycho
@praxycho 3 күн бұрын
Why is it always these scammers getting so many comms but genuin people wont get this many????
@doghugs6840
@doghugs6840 Ай бұрын
if u lose files, ur clients are the first people u should be contacting directly so they can understand the delay, their lie was so obvious it hurts. edit: i didnt kno i felt the need to say this but NOT EVERY ARTIST ARE MEANT TO TAKE COMMISSIONS I REPEAT NOT EVERY ARTIST IS MEANT TO TAKE COMMISSIONS AGAIN, NOT EVERYONE CAN TURN THEIR HOBBIES INTO BUSINESS PLS STOP ASSUMING U CAN HANDLE TAKING COMMISSIONS/BEING A FREELANCE ARTIST AS IT STILL REQUIRES PROFESSIONALIZM AND EXPERIENCE
@Lulusacrifice
@Lulusacrifice 5 күн бұрын
2:29 at first im like oh that happened to me my ipad just like completely died like it decided it was its last day but knowing the video this is im assuming its not like that
@batmanbeyond97
@batmanbeyond97 Ай бұрын
I’m currently struggling to get a commission I paid for from Studio Heartbreak Artist Tanjeronie. It’s like pulling teeth to try to get a response from them. This is why I hate commissioning people. Have been waiting for since June for 5 expressions 😅
@atodeblue
@atodeblue 21 күн бұрын
christ- that’s almost half a year at this point. I see your comment was 3 weeks ago; have you gotten any progress since then ?
@Elizondo_art
@Elizondo_art Ай бұрын
I’ll say this again, this bothers me every time I see these videos and posts because especially now a days people work hard for their money. And these scams make it hard for actual artists like me trying to get work!
@VandNana
@VandNana Ай бұрын
I have gotten a single art commission how do scammers do this
@hirahiro2331
@hirahiro2331 Ай бұрын
Right?
@anipii2120
@anipii2120 Ай бұрын
Artist, HAVE A TOS, and keep com applications in a thing like forms, and you can add your tos to a page and have the client click a box to agree to the TOS protect yourselves and make your TOS easy to find, vgen i belive has in the clients face when they com you
@Purplefoxess
@Purplefoxess 3 күн бұрын
She’s also missing her entire tail in the picture on the right it’s behind her boots. It’s not there in the picture on the left.
@snowiesaber
@snowiesaber Ай бұрын
SCREAMS
@BunMunsArt
@BunMunsArt Ай бұрын
I try and be frequent with my posts, fan art and stuff but I don’t even get coms at most only one or three which for my come I give special treatment to each com but oof qwq
@donimmortal7692
@donimmortal7692 Ай бұрын
This is why you went though Fixer, kids
@DianeCarroll-pb3se
@DianeCarroll-pb3se Ай бұрын
As soon as I saw their arts I knew it was AI and traced one art with three girls one girl's hand is missing. You can get your money back from western union, call the number or go the request form.
@TheHuYao
@TheHuYao Ай бұрын
I love watching your videos while I draw ^^
@KITTsila5202
@KITTsila5202 Ай бұрын
I know snowie since I made fanart of her also discovered her Twitter account before making my fanart
@hehehheheh292
@hehehheheh292 Ай бұрын
blond hair suits you sooo much 🤭
@NOT._.S0F1A
@NOT._.S0F1A Ай бұрын
Yallll how do I get a Vgen acc? I don’t have twitter or insta so I can’t do the posts they say on the website
@copferret843
@copferret843 Ай бұрын
the hands looked traced from the original sketch
@MUTT_MOMENT
@MUTT_MOMENT Ай бұрын
While this does seem really suspect, outside of this specific person not communicating n lying n shit, a month REALLY isnt that much to wait especially with a queue, at least in furry spaces which is what im experienced in.
@ucucy8245
@ucucy8245 Ай бұрын
Also i noticed that the tail is NOT visible
@liftime_fayla-_-
@liftime_fayla-_- Ай бұрын
The art community is so problematic dawg
@bokholmes1624
@bokholmes1624 27 күн бұрын
i think this artist is like, a child... just a hunch.
@jcdeton72
@jcdeton72 21 күн бұрын
True, that wasnt your typical scammer behavior
@jamethedealmaker
@jamethedealmaker Ай бұрын
I like these videos becuae i can learn how to not seem like im scamming/protect myself from scams
@hirahiro2331
@hirahiro2331 Ай бұрын
I wonder if I seem like a scam...
@Blankets94
@Blankets94 Ай бұрын
Three minutes here is wild also amazing vid
@jcdeton72
@jcdeton72 21 күн бұрын
edit: nvm her account is protected now
@MaakaSakuranbo
@MaakaSakuranbo Ай бұрын
"Your harddrive yeets your files" Well lesson learned, have backups Also do you not use the Recycle Bin? Unsure of how a simple delete would unrecoverably delete files
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